1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Hi am Laverne Karacouz, and I was the department head 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: makeup artist on the Office. Hello everybody, and welcome back. 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Uh it's a new week and that means it's time 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: for another episode of the Office Deep Dive. As always, 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: I am your host, Brian Baumgartner. Today we are bringing 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: on a guest that I don't have to make up 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: because she made me up. Because she does make up, 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: get it. She is also the one who made us 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: look fresh, well, sometimes made us look like we had 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: extremely bad sunburn or in my case my worst week 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: on the show, like Michael Moore, let me tell you, 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: fake hair on the face not comfortable. Uh. This woman 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: had all of the skill to give you a black 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: eye or to make you look good even if you were, say, 15 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: under a waterfall at Niagara Falls. Laverne Kara Kusi Laverne 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: was the makeup department head on the Office, which, let 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: me tell you, this was a huge task, right. We 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: had a huge cast, so there were a lot of 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: people to get ready every day and not a whole 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: lot of time. In fact, the battle plan she used 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: then is still used across the board on so many shows. 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: But she was so much more than that she was 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: a friend, a a therapist, a shoulder to lean on. 24 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: Really just someone to look forward to seeing every single day, 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: usually around five o'clock in the morning. And honestly, she 26 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: probably knows more secrets about the Office cast than anyone. 27 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. She got hours of one 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: on one time with all of the actors day in 29 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: and day out, just getting closer and closer all of 30 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: the time. But don't get any ideas our secrets are 31 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: definitely safe with her. You'll find her work on so 32 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: many shows, from Judging Amy to Monk to The West 33 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Wing and Animal Kingdom. But perhaps her greatest professional achievement 34 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: thus far was getting her name on a Volunteer of 35 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: the Year plaque that was placed behind Creed's desk in 36 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: one of our episodes. So there's a fun little Easter 37 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: egg for you. But in all seriousness, Laverne I love her. 38 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: She was a joy to have on our crew. I 39 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: was so happy to reconnect with her for the first 40 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: time in many years. So get ready to be dolled 41 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: up with the one, the only Laverne Kara Kusi. I 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: love it. The Squiger Bubble and Squiager Cookie every moon 43 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: lift over from the nut before I know, it's been 44 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: so long. Oh my god, I'm so happy to see 45 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: my body. I knows changed. I remember when I used 46 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: to give you coffe. God, I have to put glasses 47 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: on too if I have to look at it to 48 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: look at No, you don't have to look at anything. 49 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: I just have to look at you. Now. You when? Okay? 50 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: When did you start on the Office? Okay? So I 51 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: started the Office when it was the pilot and the 52 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: first six episodes, which you guys considered to be a 53 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: first season, which in as we know in the normal 54 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: TV world, is not the first season. So I or 55 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: did after that sixth episode, So you you was just 56 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: the first six that you weren't there, correct? But I 57 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: was there from the very beginning, Like I remember specific things, 58 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: like I remember exactly where I was on the freeway 59 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: when my telephone rang and You're like, I hear You're 60 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: not coming back to the office. What's going on? And 61 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: you started talking to me and I was like, well, 62 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: I guess I'm not invited back. And then it started 63 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: this whole big thing. And then when I spoke to 64 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Ken Zivornac, he was like, well, you know, Brian and 65 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Leslie David, and I think it was mostly you two 66 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: were really rallying for me to go ahead and be there, 67 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: which I was so grateful for it. And then I 68 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: remember you and I were still on the phone even 69 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: by the time I got home, and I was kind 70 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: of like walking around in my front yard like thinking 71 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: about it, like, yeah, I still want to be there 72 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: if I'm welcome back there, you know. Right. And then 73 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: but what were you doing right before you did Freaking Geeks? Right? 74 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: I did Free some Geeks the shot that at Raley Hollywood, 75 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: and I always thought when I did Freaks and Geeks, 76 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I always thought, God, what a great experience. Am I 77 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: ever going to experience this same kind of feeling again. 78 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you finish a job and 79 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: you go like, oh my god, am I ever going 80 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: to work again? Yeah? I feel that, But it was 81 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: that kind of feeling that I thought, Okay, Freaks and Geeks, 82 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: am I ever going to experience that again? And then, 83 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: as you know, we're like siblings, you know, everybody's almost 84 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: kind of arguing with one another, and it's like everybody 85 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: was getting in everybody else's business because they felt like 86 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: they were entitled because we had been around each other 87 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: for over twelve hours a day. I mean, that's the thing, 88 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: is that the the hair and makeup department. What people 89 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: don't realize maybe is like in terms of people on 90 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 1: the crew who are closest with the cast, there's nobody 91 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: closer because you you hear and see everything, right, I 92 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: think that hair and makeup are definitely the closest to 93 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: the cast. That's why I try to run as tight 94 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: of a ship as I can, where it's like, whatever 95 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: information you hear from anybody, regardless of who it is 96 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: that walks in and out of that door, is not 97 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: to be left from that trailer or to you know, 98 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. You know, I know, yes, 99 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: we're the first person you see in the morning, and 100 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: so you know, you could be having a bad day, 101 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day you have to 102 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: leave that outside the trailer doors and kind of go 103 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: in with a smiley face, and then when everybody leaves, 104 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: you can break down in tears or whatever you need 105 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: to do. It's it's intimate work at times, you know, 106 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: to be working with someone on their face or an 107 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: issue that they might have or whatever else, and and 108 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: it it just sort of it's not intentional, and I 109 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it violates rules, but it does become 110 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: almost a therapist type situation too, when you're talking about 111 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: people's outside lives getting neglected at times, and you know, 112 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: the work being so important and on that show. I 113 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: think also the work was really important to everybody. Everybody 114 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be good, not for themselves, but it really 115 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: was more a team. I feel like, I feel like 116 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be there. It wasn't like they were 117 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: forced to be there. It wasn't like, oh, I need 118 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: a job, so therefore I'm going to go ahead and 119 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, just take this job. Everybody truly wanted to 120 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: be there. And you know, gosh, there were plenty of 121 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: times that not only did you know you have that 122 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: one on one with an actor where they're spilling their 123 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: guts to you, but you're also spilling your guts to 124 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: them because you feel that bond with them. I mean, 125 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: plenty of times, you know I had been in tears 126 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you know, I would be like, oh, 127 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: we'd just sit there and talk. It's almost like the 128 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: old timey hair salons, right, I mean, I understand you 129 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: did make up, but right like the or like the 130 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: barber shops or like you go in there and it's 131 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: this like safe zone that you can talk about anything absolutely, 132 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: because it's like when you see those old school movies, 133 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, you see like the girls that are in 134 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: the nail salons and they're getting their nails done and 135 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: they're talking very privately to their person that's doing their nails. Right, 136 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: that's what we did. You guys came in early in 137 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: the morning, and because we had everybody working and up 138 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: at one time, we pretty much had everybody in the trailer. 139 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: And even when we didn't, you guys would still go 140 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: back to your trailer and do something, and you knew 141 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: your friends were going to come in an hour later. 142 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: So we'd always have like this big commotion of things 143 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of going on in the trailer and always have 144 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: the A. D s come in there and say, okay, 145 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: how much longer, how much longer? Well, we have to 146 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: finish this story, and then we'd listen to Rain and 147 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: Oscar go back and forth at one another. Yeah, that's 148 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: what people don't realizes, you know. On our show. By 149 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: the end, we had four cup artists and four hair people. Right. Well, 150 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: we originally started out the show where they thought that 151 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: we could go ahead and get everybody ready at one time, 152 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: would just I think it started out two and two, 153 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: and then it was like, oh, well, we'll just go 154 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: ahead and have three and three, and then it was 155 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: like four and four and then remember we had that chart. 156 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: It was our battle plan where it was color coded 157 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: as to what actor was going to get their makeup 158 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: done and who was going to get their hair done, 159 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: and then the swapping of the chairs and they were 160 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: done in fifteen minute increments, which makes me laugh now 161 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: because since after The Office, I've gone on to other 162 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: shows where they have that same chart and they'll go, oh, 163 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: we have a battle plan, and I go, oh, well, 164 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: that's interesting because I think you took that from our 165 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: show way back. When it's kind of like when you 166 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: see these shows that are doing, you know, talking heads, 167 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, really the talking Heads started originally with us. 168 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: I almost kind of get a little bit territorial, right. Well, 169 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: we had I mean, at times like sixteen to twenty 170 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: actors that needed to be ready at the same time, 171 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: So there are four you know, there's four hair and 172 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: four makeup and then people have to flip flop. But 173 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: that's still only eight people, so you guys would create 174 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: this grid that people had to start coming in at 175 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, five o'clock, four thirty in the morning just 176 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: to get everybody ready on time, right exactly. And there 177 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: was no type of buffer scene like a normal TV 178 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: so to speak. Not that our show wasn't normal TV, 179 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: but you never had like those buffer scenes where you 180 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: could go like, oh, let's go ahead and get half 181 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: the people ready, and then we have a buffer scene 182 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: to then go ahead and get more people ready. It 183 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: was like our buffer scene was a talking head and 184 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: that literally, as you know, was only one person. So 185 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: that only gave us a certain amount of time. So 186 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: I thank the office for that very reason because it's 187 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: forced me as an artist to go ahead and really 188 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: gain my speed because when they'll be like, oh, we 189 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: have eight people we need to get ready, I was like, ah, 190 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: that's a walk in the park. I can go ahead 191 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: and do that. We used to get sixteen and twenty 192 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: people ready at one time. How did you get into makeup? Um? Well, 193 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: I always painted a kid, you know. I used to 194 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: go with my face just painted, so I knew like 195 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: the idea of like color theory and how like different 196 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: materials kind of worked with each other. And I would 197 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: walk from my house in Toluca Lake to this woman's 198 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: house and she used to paint in her garage, and 199 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: uh so that kind of started. And I always wanted 200 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: to be in the arts in one capacity or another. 201 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: And then after I graduated high school, I went to 202 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: community college, and then I moved to London, and then 203 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I got a degree in fashion design, and then I 204 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: still kind of dabbled a little bit in the arts 205 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: and you know, doing makeup and stuff like that. I 206 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: started originally doing commercials and I worked with one director 207 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: for many, many years um in commercials. And then my 208 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: first real TV job with Freaks and Geeks. And Freaks 209 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: and Geeks was where I met Paul Fie and Jake 210 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: Kasden and Seth Rogan and on and on and on. 211 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: So how did you get that job? I got that 212 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: job from I was doing a commercial and in between 213 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: going ahead and doing commercials, I had been day playing 214 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: on movies and TV stuff, and a friend of mine 215 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: called me and said, Hey, by the way, I need 216 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: somebody to work with me on this new TV show 217 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: called Freaks and Geeks. It's really simple makeup. These kids 218 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: are young and I thought, okay, and so I had 219 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: to be really straightforward and said, well, I just want 220 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: to let you know that I'm pregnant with my first daughter. 221 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: I would love to go ahead and do the show. 222 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: So basically, I that's how I got the job, and 223 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: I did Freaks and Geeks and um got to know 224 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: everybody there. Then I had the baby in January, and 225 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: then you know, years later I started running into like 226 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: Linda Cardelini and Jason Siegel and people like that, and 227 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: they would always ask how Vannah doing, How Savannah doing, 228 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: and just because I was, you know, pregnant with her 229 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: and I had worked the whole show being pregnant, So 230 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: that was like a special moment for me. Whereas it 231 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: was like even on the office when I would see 232 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: like Angela being pregnant, it reminded me of when I 233 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: went back to Freaking Geeks and when I was pregnant, 234 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: right right, and the hair and makeup world, I mean, 235 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: it really is about the relationships, right, Like you met 236 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: this makeup artist who brought you onto Freaking Geeks, and 237 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: then you you meet people and that's how it happens, right, 238 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: it pretty much does. I mean, I feel if you 239 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: have a good attitude. It's really about relationships because, as 240 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: we know, there's a lot of you know, jobs that 241 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: you often say to yourself, I wonder how they got 242 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: that job, you know what I mean. And that's no 243 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: disrespect to anybody. It's just the way that it is. 244 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, if you are a people person and you 245 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: can do your job sufficiently, you know, and you have 246 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: a good attitude, then obviously you're going to get brought 247 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: onto the next one. Right. Yeah, do you remember anything 248 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: about those early years and we had did six episodes 249 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: and then we did six more and we were sent home. 250 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, it occurs to me that the tremendous 251 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: amount of trust and courage that you showed kind of 252 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: stick with it over periods where you know, we were 253 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: working oddly and we didn't know if we were going 254 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: to keep going, but there was a trust in you 255 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: to kind of stick with it through that time. Well. 256 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: I just kind of feel as freelancers, whether you're above 257 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: the line or below the line, you're a gypsy. You 258 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: take your stuff, you show up at work. You know, 259 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: you don't know. I've been on plenty of shows prior 260 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: to the office where they're like, okay, we shoot up 261 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: till Christmas, you know, and then sometimes they would come 262 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: to you and be like, oh, sorry, it was picked 263 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: up for the back nine, but now we're canceled, you 264 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean, But they're was I think it 265 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: goes back to the whole trust thing. I just always 266 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, especially with Greg being our leader, 267 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: I always felt that he was always so genuine and 268 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: he would have said if there was anything that he 269 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: could foresee that was coming up, that he would have 270 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: said something to us. But I loved the whole cast, 271 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: so there was no reason for me not to be 272 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: excited about coming back. It didn't matter which way you went, 273 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: because it was always an uncertainty, you know. I don't 274 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: know if that's just something that we as individuals in 275 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: this business thrive on, like oh gosh, you know that 276 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: almost like an angst all the time, right right right 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: right right, you know. And I truly believe that if 278 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: you're good at what you do, you will always be 279 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: provided for. It may not be the ideal job, but 280 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: you don't know who you're going to meet along the 281 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: way that's going to go ahead and take you onto 282 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: the next thing, or not sure what differences are there 283 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: between being a makeup artist in fashion or whatever, like 284 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: what makes TV and film different and or why do 285 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: you like to do that or why have you chosen 286 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: to do that? I think that compared to say fashion 287 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: or commercials, you work at a completely different pace. Whereas 288 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: in television and film, as you know, we don't shoot, 289 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, day one, night one, day two, so you 290 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: have to remember continuity basis. So when it comes to, 291 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: say a commercial, it's like I'm getting somebody ready and 292 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing their makeup for a taco bell commercial, you'll, 293 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: let's say, But when you're doing television or film, there's 294 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: sometimes script wise where you may get them ready for 295 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: day one and then say day two, there's something specifically scripted, 296 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: like a person gets hit in the face with the 297 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: ball and they need to have a black eye, or 298 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: you know, they have a split lip or whatever it 299 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: happens to be. So you have to be really diligent 300 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: and stay on top of it, and you're also you 301 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: have a script that you're going by in television and 302 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: film opposed to fashion or commercials. But also in the 303 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: fashion world sometimes it's super high fashion, so it's thinking 304 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: outside the box opposed to going ahead and doing maybe 305 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: a straight makeup. It just all depends. And then there's 306 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: also differences between going ahead and doing a regular beauty 307 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: makeup opposed to doing special effects makeup or you know, 308 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: sometimes a tattoo is required, or I mean, you know 309 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: how it was when we did our certain episodes of 310 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the Office where it would be like, oh, it's Halloween, 311 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: so and so it is gonna look like blah blah 312 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: blah blah, you're gonna make me miserable by by putting 313 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: by putting hair all over my face as Michael Moore. 314 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, because I had ahead, I had 315 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: to listen to you wine about the fact that I 316 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: had to have this stuff on my face one more time. However, okay, 317 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: now listen when your manager saw you, what was the 318 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: response that your manager had to say? Oh my god, 319 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: I thought that was Michael Moore. So I rest my case. Well, 320 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing. People think you guys are nice and 321 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: you all you do is torture us. That's really, That's 322 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: what it is. No. I it's so crazy because on 323 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: the Office, so much of it was straight makeup, you know, 324 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: and downplayed, and you know, them not wanting to come 325 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: in or touch up or do anything because they wanted 326 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: this very sort of realistic look. But along with that, 327 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: there was a lot of crazy stuff that you guys 328 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: had to do in terms of that, or in terms 329 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: of injuries or when Kate got burned because she fell 330 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: asleep from yeah burned or yeah, I mean that must 331 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: make it fun, right? Oh? Absolutely? Every time I would 332 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: look at the script, I'd get super excited and be like, Oh, 333 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: what's in the script this week? And I always knew 334 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: that when Halloween rolled around that there was always going 335 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: to be something fun to actually do. But also to 336 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: there's like this misconception of when people say to you, 337 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: we want no makeup, Okay, well you need to be 338 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more specific when you say no makeup. 339 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: There's a difference between a no makeup look where you're 340 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: actually putting on makeup but making them look like they 341 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: don't have makeup, opposed to not putting anything on their face. Right, 342 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: what was this specific direction that you were given in 343 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: terms of how the character should look. They're supposed to 344 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: look natural their everyday people that work in an office. 345 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Also to keeping in mind Scranton. Because of Scranton, there's 346 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: a very different everyday look in Scranton as there would 347 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: be to an everyday look in l A or New 348 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: York or Dallas or wherever it happened to be. So 349 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we never got any notes saying, 350 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: oh it's too much. You know, when we go into 351 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: do a you know myself as an artist, somebody sits 352 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: in your chair and you kind of look at them 353 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: and you're given the direction of natural. You then at 354 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: that point say, okay, do I just conceal under their eyes? 355 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: Are we going to keep the facial hair? We're going 356 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: to shave the facial hair. Are we're gonna whatever it 357 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: happens to be. Are there eyebrows to light that we 358 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: might have to darken a mint a bit. I think 359 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: that Greg was so great at going ahead and giving 360 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: saying a natural look, but then not micromanaging, you know 361 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: what I mean. He let us go ahead and have 362 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: a free range within parameters of what it was that 363 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: we as individuals felt. And you know, Greg, he was 364 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: always such a great leader. I mean, how do you 365 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: not of him? And you know, we had a little 366 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: bit of leeway and we just kind he kind of 367 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: left it up to us. Um, you know, because obviously 368 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: when you're in a trailer, going ahead and getting people 369 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: ready is very different to when you then take them 370 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: outside onto the set, of which I'm a huge advocate for. 371 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: If you're in a trailer, you try to go ahead 372 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: and have your lighting set up to how your lighting 373 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: is on the inside of a set. Did you do that? Yeah, 374 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: we would. We would call in the electric department when 375 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: we would start the new season and say, we need 376 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: to pull these lights because they don't hold the trailer 377 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: from season to season. So we would have the electrical 378 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: department come in take those lights out because they'd always 379 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: put in those lovely fluorescence and put in what was 380 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: color accurate to what it was that we were actually 381 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: shooting inside the set. And then there were some times 382 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: that because you know, certain people were always sitting in 383 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: front of a computer, sometimes having certain colors on a 384 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: computer inter screen always plays a little bit with the 385 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: coloring on people, skin tones, underneath their eyes, any little 386 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: things that you maybe want to color correct. So we 387 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: would have a collaboration, or I did with Steve hutch 388 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: to go ahead and make sure you turn the screen 389 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: to white so that you almost are blowing out the 390 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: color in somebody's face, and then it will be my 391 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: job as an artist to go in and deposit the 392 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: color back into the face because the blue would be 393 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: really throwing you off. Right, that's so interesting. I had 394 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: no idea that you guys were doing that with the 395 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: electric department. That's that's super cool. I mean, that makes 396 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Well, I try to 397 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: go ahead, and I figured that out kind of early on, 398 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: and I do that now moving forward on different shows. 399 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: I try to be, you know, go to the electrical 400 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: department and be like, oh, by the way, can you 401 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: just let me know what it is, what type of 402 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: lighting you're using on set, so that uh, you're not 403 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: having to go ahead and make corrections. It's like, why 404 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: go ahead and make a step forward and then have 405 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: to go a step back right. And obviously, if you 406 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: know we're shooting outside or you know, in a different location, 407 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: like things are going to change. But when you have 408 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: a show like ours that takes place largely in this 409 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: one space, obviously they know the gist of how it's lit. 410 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: I think that there were times that you know, I 411 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: would we would be so early in the morning and 412 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: they would take us on our little road trips down 413 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: you know that one street that We would always drive 414 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: down um or we would be shooting on the back 415 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: side of the stages to implement wherever it was that 416 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: we were supposed to be shooting, and you'd put a 417 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: foundation on somebody's face and then you'd get outside and it, 418 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, takes a minute for the skin to warm 419 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: up and for everything to kind of settle. And then 420 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: there were times that I would get people outside and 421 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: be like, oh, no, what have I done? I think 422 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: I need to correct us a little bit because this 423 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: doesn't look quite right. How is the office different than 424 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: any show you had been on before that? Do you 425 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: remember anything different? I just felt there was always that 426 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: great feeling of of being with your family. You know, 427 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: you're away from your family all the time we would 428 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: walk into the trailer, there was always that feeling of like, oh, 429 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: there's my there's my other brother, there's my other sister, 430 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: and you know how it was like over nine years, 431 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: of course, there's going to be those things that we 432 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: all like, we all start getting in each other's business, 433 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: and that's just what happens. I mean over nine nine years, 434 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: that's obviously what happens. But there was just I think 435 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: across the board, you know, you always felt that level 436 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: of you could go and talk to on a one 437 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: on one with an actor and you knew that whatever 438 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: you were talking about was always kept secret and it 439 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: was just between the two of you, you know. Walking 440 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: into editing, we could always talk to them, and they 441 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: were always great about showing us stuff that was being 442 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: edited together of what we had shot before. And the 443 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: doors in the writer's office were always open. We could 444 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: always walk upstairs and walk in on them and they would, 445 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, greet you, Oh hey, Laver, and how you doing, 446 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah blah, And then I would 447 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: be like, I'm so sorry, I'm interrupting in the middle 448 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: of writing, but I had this question. So I always 449 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: felt like there was an open door policy for everybody 450 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: across the board. Is that unique? Very unique? And I 451 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: think I think it's because of the actors that we had, 452 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: the crew that we had, because we were only really 453 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: located in two buildings that we had to like just 454 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: cross a parking lot to go into editing or the 455 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: writers or whatever. And when you work in these bigger studios, 456 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: as you know, you know, Universal, Warren Brothers, whatever, everything's 457 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: kind of spread out all over the place, and I 458 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: feel like everybody was always open to listen to you. 459 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: They never were like, oh god, I don't have the 460 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: time right now, you know. I always felt like there 461 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: was an open door policy. See. Yeah. Eventually, once we 462 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: sort of broke the CEO with the big super Bowl episode, 463 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: then we started getting some big guest stars. Do you 464 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: have any specific recollections about any of those guys? Well, 465 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: we had Draws Elva, we had Cathy Bates, we had 466 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: Will Ferrell, Will Ferrell, James Spader, Yeah, James Spader. Oh gosh, 467 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: James Spader so funny, so many times, like talking about 468 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: times of when he grew up and you know, just 469 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: funny intimate points in time. Cathy Bates, I couldn't help 470 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: it to be in awe because you know, she's one 471 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: of my favorite actresses. And so I was like, do 472 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: I say something? Do I not say something? Is it 473 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: going to be professional? Is it not going to be professional? 474 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: And I couldn't help it to be like, oh my gosh, 475 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: I just have to save us and I'm sorry, and 476 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't mean it to come out to be unprofessional, 477 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: but I have to tell you how much I love you, 478 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: And you know, she just had a big smile on 479 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: her face. And I feel like all those actors that 480 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: we had that came in, whether they came in, you know, 481 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: for one time, or came in for five episodes or 482 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, however many episodes. We always had such a 483 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: great group of guest stars. And Will I had known 484 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: from before, you know, doing a movie called Stranger Than 485 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: Fiction with him, and so when he came onto the 486 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: office I was like, oh, my gosh, here he is again. 487 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: So it's funny how it's like you'll you'll work with 488 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: an actor and then you may not see him for 489 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: a really long time for whatever reasons. Then all of 490 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: a sudden, you see him again. You're like, hey, what's 491 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: going on? Okay? I know, well, because the relationship is 492 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: real and it's it's intimate, and I mean obviously your 493 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: relationships with people that you work with for longer recognize you. 494 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: And then there's others where you're thinking to yourself, do 495 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: they really recognize me or they just like trying to 496 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: put it together, like where did I work with them on? Oh? 497 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: For sure, and for sure, by the way, I've done that, 498 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: Like people, who did you do that? Like when you 499 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: saw me today the ship? No, no, but I it 500 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what job because you don't know or care. 501 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: But I there was some job recently. No, not really 502 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: because I won't remember any of the details now because 503 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know who she was. But I went somewhere 504 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: and it wasn't Debbie or Kid or Jerry Berry or 505 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Kenneth Paul or anybody else, but there was someone she 506 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: was like, Oh I worked on the show. UM. Oh wow, 507 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: I'm so what show did you work on? And if 508 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: she had said the office, I would have been like, oh, 509 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: of course she was like the office, and I was, oh, no, 510 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean my light was on, but there was nobody 511 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: home up there. I didn't know. I was like, I don't. 512 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: But you know, people who came on, you know, Day 513 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 1: played for two or three episodes one season, and then 514 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: they went on to something else they might remember. The 515 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: thing is is that sometimes, even as a makeup artist, 516 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: to all run into makeup artists and they go, don't 517 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: you remember I was on your show? And I'm thinking, no, 518 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I've never seen you before in my body. We've talked 519 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: to some people about probably one of the toughest times, 520 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: sort of most emotional times for us on the show, UM, 521 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: which was the writer's strike and us losing a hundred 522 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: days in there, and we came back and made up 523 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: some afterward. But do you remember anything about the difficulty 524 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: of that time? And I specifically remember where we were 525 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: shooting when we were told that the writers were going 526 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: to go on strike. Um, we were on location. We 527 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: were shooting it, I believe jim apartment, and if I 528 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: remember correctly, the trailers were parked along the street. It 529 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: was b J and Mindy's trailers right there. Obviously they 530 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: were the writers or some of the writers, and everybody 531 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: was a little bit nervous about going ahead a writer's strike. 532 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: But then we were told, we really apologize that we 533 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: have to do this, but this is what we have 534 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: to do. You know. It was like, we have to 535 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: do this because we have to state, we have to 536 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: make a point, but we also want you to know 537 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: that you're appreciated. And you know, getting a check out 538 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: of Greg daniels personal checking account to each crew member, 539 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: what was that? Yeah, we were am I allowed to 540 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: talk about that? Okay? Greg Daniels went into his personal 541 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: checking account and wrote the crew each an individual check 542 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: because we were to be out of work. I mean, 543 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: you knew that it was his personal checking account, because 544 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: when you received the check, it had the address up 545 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: in the corner. And then we got another check after 546 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: that from you. Remember how you guys always used to 547 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: as cast members, always thought of a Christmas gift for 548 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: the crew, and you guys also gave us money on 549 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: top of that. So there was just that loyalty. Sorry, 550 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: there's just that loyalty that came along with why wouldn't 551 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and keep working for these people? 552 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, regardless of how long the strike is. You're 553 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: taking care of us now, So why wouldn't we go 554 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: ahead and do it later on? So it just strikes 555 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: it like my tears are more tears of joy because 556 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: I felt so appreciated at that point. And there were 557 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: people I spoke to even after that that said to me, 558 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: you know when we talked about the writer's strike, and 559 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, you know, how was it on 560 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: the office, And I would tell them and people were 561 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: just like their jaws dropped to be like, that's pretty amazing. Yeah, 562 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: you know that you had your chief so to speak, 563 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: Greg Daniels, and your cast all come together and and 564 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you knew that it was genuine and even to this day, 565 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: I have the utmost respect for him, you know, as 566 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: we all do. How do you not love Greg Daniels. Yeah, well, 567 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: one of the other things. It was just a time 568 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: when there were issues sort of happening across the board, 569 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: right with the actors and with the writers and the directors, 570 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: and the writer's contract came up first, and you know, 571 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: the fight that they were fighting was kind of like 572 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: across the board. But they, you know, we showed up 573 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: at work. We because I called them. They said, no, 574 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: you you have to go to work. You're not on strike. 575 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: You don't get to show. If you don't show up, 576 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: they can fire you or whatever else. And so we 577 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: all showed up to work. I remember being there and 578 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: then Steve I just didn't show up. And I found 579 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: out he got calls from the network and from lawyers 580 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: that said, you have to go to work. There's an 581 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: episode that's been written and you have to shoot it. 582 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: And he said no, no, And Greg, I think told me, 583 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, he was getting calls from the network and Steve, 584 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: and he knew that there was a lot of pressure 585 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: on Steve, and he called Steve and said, you know, 586 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: how are you doing. Steve said, I'm fine. I'm here 587 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: playing with the kids. He was like, are you He 588 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm fine. How is it working with 589 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: him so intimately for for so many years? Oh my god. 590 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: Steve's a gem, as we know, always super professional. He'd 591 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: always come in, sit down, and I was always amazed 592 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: at the amount of dialogue that he had and how 593 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: like just a photographic memory, yeah, and how much he 594 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: could remember. But he would just like do it so effortlessly, 595 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: always and always, you know. I just remember certain times too. 596 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: I remember one time in particular which this always stood out, 597 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: and you'll remember it too. I can't remember what episode 598 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: it was, but we were shooting. All the actors were 599 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: in big coats and we had a limousine that we 600 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: had shot outside them on the other stages, and I 601 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 1: remember there were a couple of actors that were still 602 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: at Craft Service, and I remember Steve specifically went over 603 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: to Craft Service and said to them, you realize that 604 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: you're being disrespectful because you have a bunch of actors 605 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: that are standing outside in the boiling hot sun in 606 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: coats waiting for you while you're at Craft Service. I 607 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: love him. He's professional and just always on it and 608 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: just a real people person. And I think there is 609 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: something to be said about the fact that, um, you know, 610 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: when you have actors that start out and their careers 611 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: just take off as when they're young, opposed to as 612 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: they get older. I think, as you know, with Steve, 613 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: his career didn't start until he was a little bit older, 614 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, not a teenager, and so he got it. 615 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: And he always was such a gentleman. We go on location, 616 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: we'd be getting out of a van. He would come 617 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: around and always put his hand out to help people 618 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: out of the van, had no problem carrying somebody's chair 619 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: their setback. Just I don't know, you know how we 620 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: all feel about Steve. Yeah, no, I know. Do you 621 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: remember hearing that he was leaving? Yes, I remember, And 622 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: we would have many conversations with him in the chair 623 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: and he would like love to push my buttons, and 624 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: you go, only six more episodes, only five more episodes, 625 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: and I go, shut up, don't talk about it. And 626 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: then when he actually did end up going ahead and leaving, 627 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: and how Nancy was there and how he had a 628 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: went down the list of each department and he had 629 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: a that's what she said moment, and I thought it 630 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: was brilliant how we retired number one on the call sheet. 631 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: When Steve left um and the dynamics of the show changed. 632 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: I think after Steve left, people started getting maybe a 633 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: little bit see, you know, are we going to do 634 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: an eighth season? Are we going to do a ninth season. 635 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: I kind of felt like Steve was the glue that 636 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of kept everything together. And like you know, we 637 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: always say the speed of the team is a speed 638 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: of the leader, and I think in that respect, Steve 639 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: was definitely it was almost like everybody wanted to be 640 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: on really good behavior because Steve Grill was there right right, 641 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: even though it wasn't because he wasn't a big famous 642 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: star before. It wasn't it wasn't it was always Steve. 643 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, you just made that joke, but 644 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: like it was Steve was there, and just the the 645 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: power of his generosity of spirit and work ethic and preparedness, 646 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: it was just like, oh, yeah, we can't screw this 647 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: up now, right, like if he yeah, exactly. It wasn't 648 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: like we went, oh, it's Steve Carrell, so we have 649 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: to be great behavior. It was like, oh, Steve, because 650 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: of the way he was, how professional he was how 651 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: prepared he was that everybody. It was like, you know, 652 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: having a teacher and all of your kids, and everybody 653 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: wants to make sure that you're all on good behavior 654 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: because the teachers coming in the room. So I think 655 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of what it was. It had nothing to 656 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: do with whether, you know, Steve was a big superstar 657 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: or not a big superstar. Was more about the fact 658 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: that everybody, because of how he was, we all wanted 659 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: to not disappoint. So part of what we're talking about 660 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: here is that. And I don't know if you experience 661 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: it through your kids or anything else, but you know, 662 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: here we are, and we haven't filmed the show in 663 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: six years. Has it already been six years? Oh my god? 664 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: And right now it's the biggest show on television. I 665 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: can't even tell you how many times people just go, oh, 666 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: my gosh, my kids have watched all the episodes of 667 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: the Office. You worked on the Office, Oh my god, 668 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: it must have been so much fun. So, you know, 669 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: and they'll like almost kind of drill you, which in 670 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: a suite enduring way, not in like a bad way. 671 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: But I'm like, when I start thinking about it, I'm like, 672 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: how long has it been I'm like six years, like 673 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: it feels like just yesterday, and it's maybe just because 674 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: I've kept I've tried to make a conscious effort of 675 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: staying in touch with with certain people. You know. I've 676 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: kept in touch with Greg Daniels over the years. I've 677 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: kept in touch with Justin Spitzer over the years. I 678 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: did the pilot in the first season of Superstore with him. 679 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: You know. I kept in touch with Craig Robinson, silly Craig, 680 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: love him though. You know, we did a movie he 681 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: was guest starring, and then he said he was going 682 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: to be doing this, um his own show. I was like, Oh, 683 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: how's that going, because I had heard about it, like 684 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of the rumbling right as we were 685 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: starting to finish the office. Yeah, He's I said, Oh 686 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: my gosh, that would be so fun to go ahead 687 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: and work on that. And then just blue, no phone call, 688 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: just an email from a producer saying, oh, I can 689 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: I send you the script for Craig Robinson's new show. 690 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that was just so random, Like he didn't 691 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: even say, hey, do you want to do it? We 692 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: just got in touch with them, and then all of 693 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: a sudden, the script ended up in my email, what 694 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: what is working on the Office mean to you? I 695 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: wish that we could do it all over again. It 696 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: holds a very very special, um, a very special part 697 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: in my heart that you know, I don't think that, 698 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: but I said that also when Freaks and Geeks ended 699 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: that I don't know if we'll ever experience that again. 700 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: I hope. I do. You know certain actors that you 701 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: know I've kept in touch with a long way that 702 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: have been really supportive to me, And you were super 703 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: supportive to me when you know, he wanted me to 704 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: go ahead and stay on. So I feel, uh, you know, 705 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: I always like to stay in touch with you, and 706 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: then I feel like we'll always be friends. Um. But 707 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: it was just a very unique point in time where 708 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: I when I first got called to do this tiny 709 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: little show called The Office, I never thought it would 710 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: be the phenomenon that it ended up going ahead and being. 711 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: And now, as you're saying six years later, to then 712 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: realize that six years have already gone by, because like 713 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: I said, it really is like it just happened yesterday, 714 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean, it holds a very very 715 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: special place in my heart. I feel a lot of loyalty, 716 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: and you know, would it be great to go ahead 717 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: and you know, get a group of us together to 718 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: to do something different. Absolutely, would I just be a static? Absolutely? 719 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: Would I stick through it if we had another writer 720 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: strike that they're anticipating. Absolutely, Yeah, It's just one of 721 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: those was great shows that you know. Now it's just 722 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: become such a cult following, like you know, looking over 723 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: there and seeing cheers like one of those, it definitely is. 724 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming in. I feel like 725 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: it was just yesterday seeing your face, and I love 726 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: you and I will never ever ever take for granted 727 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: the relationship and the closest that I feel to you, 728 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: and all the time that we spent together. I know 729 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. I remember that one time 730 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: that you were panicking because you couldn't get your daughter 731 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: from school, and you said to me, I need to 732 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: get her from school, and I said, well, I'll just 733 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: have somebody watch the set and I'll just drive there. 734 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: And I remember pulling up in my car with all 735 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: the school busses and telling her, come on, come along. 736 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: I got to take you back to work for your dad. 737 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: And anyway, you are one of my favorites. You already 738 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: know that, and uh, I absolutely love and adore you, 739 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want another six years to pass before 740 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: I know you know under these circumstances. Well, there you 741 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: have it, folks, Laverne is amazing. Thank you so much 742 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: for coming on and sharing your story with all of us. 743 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: We all are the better for it. And to my listeners, 744 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much as always for tuning in week 745 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: to week. Don't forget to leave me a review or 746 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: give me a shout on Instagram or Twitter. I'll be 747 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: back with another episode sooner than you think. All right, 748 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: circle back later this week, same time, same place, but 749 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: new interview for the other half of the crew that 750 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: made us look so good, the charming and talented Debbie 751 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: Pierce and Kim Ferry from the Office hair Department. They're 752 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: bringing on a new perspective to all of the behind 753 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: the scenes beauty of the office and trust me, you're 754 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: not gonna want to miss that one. So on that note, 755 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: I will bid you adieu, Potato Patano. Thank you so 756 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: much for listening everyone, and have a great one. The 757 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: Office Deep Dive is hosted and executive produced by me 758 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Lang Lee. Our senior 759 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: producer is Tessa Kramer. Our producers for this episode are 760 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: Liz Hayes and diego Topia. My main man in the 761 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: booth is Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, 762 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode 763 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 1: was mixed by Seth o'landskipper