1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: day Break You Up podcast, available every morning on Apple, 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Spotify or whatever you listen. It's Monday, the thirtieth of 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: September here in London. I'm Caroline Hepki. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll coming up today with his Bill 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: as leader now dead. US concerns grow over the impact 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: of a possible ground invasion of Lebanon. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Chinese stocks continue to soar as the country rolls out 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: more stimulus measures. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Plus, we have a special report on the metals renegades 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: rocking a fifteen trillion dollar market. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: Israel has carried out its first airstrike on Central Bay 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: Route and the nearly year long conflict. According to an 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: Associated Press reporter at the scene, It comes after Israel's 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: military killed Hesbela's longtime leader Hassanazraala and an airstrike in 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: the city Israel's attack. Israel's attacks are now fueling US 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: concern about a possible ground invasion of Leon and the 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: risk of Iran being drawn into a wider regional conflict. 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Here's what White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: tells CNN on Sunday, they. 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: Want to get those families back to those homes and 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: Kubitzers in the north. We want to see that too. 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 4: We believe and continue to believe that an all out 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: war with Hesbla, certainly with Ran, is not the way 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: to do that. 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: John Kirby there referring to the thousands of Israelis who've 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: had to abandon their homes due to Hesbellah shelling. The 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: situation on the ground in Lebanon, meanwhile, has been described 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: as a disaster by one local aid agency. The country's 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: Prime Minister is one of the number of displaced people 32 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: could reach one million within days. 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: Chinese shares look poised to enter a bull market after 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: authorities will doubt fresh property easing steps as part of 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: a stimulus package unveiled last week. The cs I three 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: hundred index has jumped by as much as six and 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: a half percent today, has traders rushed to buy shares. 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: In the last session before a week long holiday, the 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: index had lost more than forty five percent of its 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: value from the peak in twenty twenty one to the 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: middle of last month. Since then, it has soled by 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: more than twenty percent goldn Sachs's China portfolio Strategists Seafu 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: says the jury is still out on how sustainable the 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: gains are, so. 45 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: A key question is whether the relic could be sustainable. 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: Our answer is we still need to watch for policy 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 4: delivery and whether it will bring fundamental improvements from earnings 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: from macro data. So far, what we see is from 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: the policy perspective. People are waiting to see mandatory and 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: the physical policy. 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Seafou's note of caution comes as China's factory activity contracted 52 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: for a fifth month in a row in September. The 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: data offers another reminder of the continued economic weakness in 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: the country before Beijing's stimulus measures last week. 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: The focus on the world's second largest economy comes as 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: data had a big drop and electric cars being sold 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: by Chinese manufacturers in Europe, registrations fell by forty eight 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: percent in August from a year earlier, according to Research 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: her Data Force, with a broader slide in ev demand 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: across the region, adding to uncertainty for car makers. Automakers 61 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: are continuing to weigh the potential impact of EU tariffs 62 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: on all electric vehicles imported from China, including those from 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: non Chinese companies such as BMW, Stilantis and Tesla. 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: UK Chancellor Rachel Reeves is aiming to attend a meeting 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: of EU finance ministers before the end of the year. 66 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: According to a Financial Times report, arrangements are still under discussion, 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: but officials see her anticipated attendance as a sign of 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: improving UK EU relations. A gathering of the BLOCKS Finance 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: ministers is planned for the ninth of December in Brussels, 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: providing a potential date for Reeves. 71 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: To Birmingham, now where the Conservative Party conferences underway and 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: focused on choosing a new part leader to replace former 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Rishie Sunak. Front owners Robert Jenrick and Kemmy 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: Badenock have clashed over Badenock's remarks on statutory maternity pay, 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: which she labeled excessive. She later wrote back in her comments. 76 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 5: Damage control note for what I think maternity pay is 77 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 5: a good thing. I don't think it's successive. 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: I see that there is some mischief being made on 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: social media trying to misrepresent me. Kenny Badenock, the former 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Business Secretary, speaking there. Her opponent Robert Jenrick, publicly disagreed 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: on the matter as their team's traded hostile briefings. The 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: two other candidates, former Home Secretary James Cleverly and former 83 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: Security Minister Tom Toucan, had made clear they disagreed with her. 84 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: After the conference, Tory MPs will narrow the leadership field 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: to a final pair, with grassroots members picking a winner 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: to be announced in November. 87 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: A capsule that's been sent to rescue two stranded astronauts 88 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: has docked at the International Space Station. The two NASA 89 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: astronauts have been unable to return to Earth as planned 90 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: because of safety concerns. SpaceX launched a rescue mission on Saturday, 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: with two astronauts on board and two spare seats reserved 92 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: for the pair. They won't be back until February, though, 93 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: but Sonny Williams has told NASA that she is feeling positive. 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 6: I miss my two dogs, I miss my friends. But 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 6: you know what, there are so many people honor that 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 6: are sending us messages, and it makes you feel just 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 6: right at home with everybody when we're able to have 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 6: those conversations with our friends and family. 99 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: So astronauts Sonny Williams speaking. They're traveling in the vessel 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: known as the Dragon capsule. The rescue mission has brought 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: fresh supplies for the two who have been stuck since June. Now, 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: in a moment, we're going to talk about the metals 103 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: industry here in London. It is LME Week underway, so 104 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: that's going to be interesting thinking about the commodities story 105 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: after we've seen a commodities surging last week. Also, we'll 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: be talking a bit more about the Middle East. But 107 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, well, come back firstly see 108 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: it because you were away. I did miss you. It 109 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: looks like you had an abstutely amazing time in Manhattan. 110 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Of course, lots of phodge gooss on social media, all 111 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: the people you interviewed. 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it was a very interesting time to be there, 113 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: at being Climate Week and n General Assembly week as well. 114 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: Tom Keen on Bloomberg Surveilans asked me on Friday morning 115 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: what he thought would happen, What I thought would happen 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: next after Benjaminettannie who spoke at the UN General Assembly, 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: And I mean I told him I didn't know. And 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: I think the weekends events have proven that things are 119 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: moving very quickly there. So let's bring you up to 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: date in the developments that we've heard in the Middle 121 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: East in the early hours of this morning in Israeli 122 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: aer strike at Central Bay Route. That's the first time 123 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: that's happened in the nearly year long conflict. Our head 124 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: of Middle Eastern North Africa coverage, Stuart Livingston Wallace, joins 125 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: us now for more. Stuart, good morning. What are people 126 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: in Lebanon waking up to this morning? It seems that 127 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: Israel strikes are continuing even after the death of the 128 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Hibela leader. 129 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, and then I don't think there's any 130 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 5: sense that they're going to end anytime soon. So really 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: what we've seen over the last couple of weeks is 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 5: this very large escalation in terms of the air strikes 133 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 5: that you've seen in across level and now primarily that's 134 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: been focused on the south to the south of Bay 135 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 5: and in the Bechar Valley. Now these are two strongholds 136 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: of Hezbolla. So what Israel's trying to do here is 137 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 5: two things. Number one is eliminate the leadership and number 138 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 5: two is to start degrading the weapon sites so that 139 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 5: could be stockpars, that could be launch sites. 140 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, in terms of the response potentially from Hasbola, 141 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: if not Hezboller Iran. Is there an expectation around that? 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: Obviously that was also the speculation over the weekend, the concern. 143 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 5: It was, and I think that that, at least for 144 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 5: now is fading. And I'm hesitant because it's very hard 145 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: to predict what may happen in the days ahead. But 146 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: particularly in terms of Hesbola, we did see very limited 147 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: response in the sense of a few rockets coming over 148 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: the border into as well, but again on a very 149 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 5: very low level, and no one can quite tell. Is 150 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: is that because the Israeli air strikes have been effective 151 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: and eliminating the leadership and the weapon stock past and 152 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: therefore it makes it much more difficult for them to 153 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: actually coordinate these attacks, or is it that they're sort 154 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: of basically having a discussion internally with them has blurer 155 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: about what will the response be. But the reality is 156 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 5: that Israel's air defenses are so good and so advanced 157 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: that it's going to be very, very difficult for them 158 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 5: to have any impact whatsoever. I mean they I'm not 159 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 5: quite sure what the number is, but it's sort of 160 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: in the order of nineteen ninety five percent plus of 161 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: the rockets and missiles coming over get intercepted one way 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 5: or another, or an ad full on to empty grounds. 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 5: So it's very difficult for has Bler I think, to 164 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 5: be particularly effective in terms of response with regards to Iran. 165 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: Again you know, lots of noise but not much action. 166 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 5: And again the reality there is that Iran's options, at 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 5: least in terms of an overt confrontation with israela very limited. 168 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 5: We saw it in April. They sent over close to 169 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 5: three hundred missiles and drones, almost every single one of 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: which was intercepted. Now it was well telegraphed and it 171 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: was clear that Iran didn't want to escalate things to 172 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 5: full on confrontation. But again, what exactly are the Uranian 173 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 5: options right now really hard to see. 174 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: At the same time, series away from Lebanon, we saw 175 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: Israeli strikes in Yemen two over the weekend. What does 176 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: that tell us about Israel's broader strategy at this moment. 177 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, as preemptive is the word here, So what there 178 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 5: are effectively doing is trying to decapitate all these Uranian 179 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 5: proxies that surround it. So we've seen that in Yemen 180 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 5: over the weekend again because the Hooties have been firing 181 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 5: missiles and drones up into to Israel, and particularly now 182 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: that it wants to focus on the northern front, that 183 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 5: is the front with Lebanon, the last thing it needs 184 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 5: is some massive escalation from the hooties. So I think 185 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 5: that's a preemptive strike. We've seen attacks on sites obviously 186 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 5: in Lebanon and Gaza continues, but also in Syria because 187 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 5: remember you've got these Iranian backed militias in Syria and 188 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: in Iraq that have also been attacking Israel. So it's 189 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 5: trying to basically do it all in one go so 190 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: that it can focus on the north. 191 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Meanwhile, Hamas says that the head of its Lebanon 192 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: branch has also been killed in a strike in southern Lebanon. 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: How does this affect the war in Gaza? I mean, 194 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: one has stakes to use the word cease Far admits 195 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: this deepening conflict. 196 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I think for now there is no sign 197 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 5: that we would get anything resembling a ceaspar and as 198 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 5: you know, we've had lots of very powerful nations, notably 199 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 5: the US, pushing for one for some time now, and 200 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 5: it's not really got anywhere. I think in terms of 201 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 5: Israel's attitude towards this, it feels that it is largely 202 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 5: eliminated most of the threat from Hermus, at least on 203 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: a large scale. But you know, pockets continue to pop 204 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: up here and there, and you know, even in areas 205 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 5: that have been cleared multiple times, you know, suddenly you'll 206 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: get fighting erupting again because it is very difficult to 207 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 5: sort of damp it down, try and keep control over it. 208 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: But I think as far as Israel's concerned, you know, 209 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: it's most of the way they're in goals and we 210 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: know that it's pulled out quite a lot of troops, 211 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 5: not least I assume to rest them in preparation for 212 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: something that may or may not happen in the North. 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: Stuart. 214 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: For now, thank you our ahead of Middle Eastern North 215 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: Africa coverage. Stuart Livingston Wallace. 216 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Now let's turn our attention to market news party time 217 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: for global metals industry here in London, because it's LME Week, 218 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,239 Speaker 1: the big annual gathering of everyone from traders to commodity 219 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: journalists who have anything to do with the London Metal Exchange. 220 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: It's about networking, it's about gauging the state of the market, 221 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: negotiating multi million ton contracts. This amidst an spike in 222 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: iron or gold prices edging up our commodities reporter Martin 223 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: Ritchie joins us now for more. Martin, tell us what's 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: going on then for London Metals Week? Right now? What 225 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: are well are going to be talking about this week 226 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: in London. 227 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: It's a big week in the calendar for the metals 228 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: business globally. You've really got literally thousands of people descending 229 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: on London. This is a kind of big event where 230 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: everyone gets together to talk about supply and demand across metals, 231 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: what's happening in China, what's going to be happening next year, 232 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,479 Speaker 3: and it can have quite a kind of decisive influence 233 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: and sentiment in the metals market for the sort of 234 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: final end of the year. And as it happens, the 235 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: timing it seems to be very good because you've had 236 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: this in China, this massive rollout of or the Chinese 237 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: government says is massive rollout of stimulus with the People's 238 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: Bank and financial regulations unleashing, you know, a battery of 239 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: measures to support the economy, and that's really going to 240 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: be a major talking point, certainly from a market point 241 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: of view in London this week. Are those measures enough 242 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: to get metal prices moving again. 243 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 4: Certainly is so far. 244 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: Copper's back above ten thousand a ton, iron or spiked 245 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: by more than ten percent this morning, quite dramatic. We've 246 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: also got the annual negotiations in London for supplies of 247 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: aluminum and copper ore start to get underway, and there's 248 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: a lot of sort of minushai of the metals market 249 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: as well that gets discussed. And one of the stories 250 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: we've put out already this week is about what's become 251 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: known as warehouse games. It's about metals that sit in 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: sheds around the world and people can make a lot 253 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: of money off the back of it. That the stories 254 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: was headline, mavericks of metals are back rocking a fifteen 255 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: trillion dollar market. 256 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: Talk to us a bit more about this controversy. Why 257 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: are these fees so controversial? 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: Yes, so, one of the important aspects of the London 259 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: Metal Exchange is that it depends on this massive network 260 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: of warehouses. LEM doesn't operate them, operated by third parties, 261 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 3: but they are regulated by the LME. And this is 262 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: where metal in guts of aluminium, copper, cathode I think 263 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: gets some zinc can be stored by traders, or you 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: can go there and buy metal, and you can sell 265 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: metal into the warehouse and often you can have millions 266 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: of tons sitting around about the world. What that means 267 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: is that warehouse companies, the companies that own these warehouses, 268 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: kind of a tremendous influence on the operation of the market. 269 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: They start to change the fees that are charged for 270 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: metals coming and going to try and make sure they 271 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: have as much metal as possible sitting in their warehouse. 272 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 273 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: stories making news from London to Wall Streets and beyond. 274 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, 275 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 276 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 277 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 278 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 279 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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