1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: All right, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: had a lot of talk recently about Springfield, Ohio and 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the situation of about twenty thousand Haitian migrants congregating there 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: in a town that had previously had what forty thousand 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: residents something like that, maybe fifty thousand, and Trump, it 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: seems is now I believe, not going as of today 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: to Springfield Governor Dwine, who is not my favorite Republican governor. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, Governor Wine not particularly interested or helpful in 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: the idea, but I thought it would be interesting Clay 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: to just take a moment to first of all, give 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: credit to Patrick Thomas over at the Wall Street Journal 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: for what I thought was a really interesting piece on 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: what's really going on with these Haitian migrants in terms 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: of what are they dealing with? Okay, because the story 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: if you were to watch Morning Joe, you know, as 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Joe and Mika get out of the private jet, you know, 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: leave the country club in Nantucket long enough to do 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: their shows from their private sets at home and have 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: chauffeurs drive them everywhere. You know, the Haitian migrants are 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: just they're living the American dream. Why are you opposed 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: to the American Dream. And as we've discussed, they are here. 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that people understand this. They are here legally, 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: technically for now. There's a law passed by Congress in 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety that allows for the provision of temporary protected status. 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Congress authorize the executive branch to do this. Don't get 26 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: mad at me, change the law. I mean they shouldn't. 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: I think this TPS thing is a big excuse for 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: abuse and it's nonsense. But I'm just pointing out what 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the real legal situation is. This piece by Patrick Thomas 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal Clay, I think, really gets to something 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: that needs to be discussed in the context of illegal immigration. 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: What's going on. 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you just the opening paragraph of this, okay, 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: and then we can start to dive into it. 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: He writes. This is from Greely, Colorado. It's not in Ohio. JBS, 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: the world's largest meatpacking company. A quarter of all US beef. 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: It's Brazilian owned quarter of all US beef is processed here. 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Bills itself as the path to the American Dream for 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: the immigrants who staff at slaughterhouses and meat cutting lines. 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: The company erected employee housing near some plants, where as 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: many as sixty languages are spoken, and workers can learn 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: English after hours and take free community college courses. Here 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: in northern Colorado, though at one of the company's biggest 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: beef plants, recently arrived workers from Haiti described grim living conditions. 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: A human resource to supervisor for JBS arranged some of 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: the immigrant workers to stay at a motel a mile 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: down the road, where they lived for weeks on end. 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: They slept on the floor eight to a room, cooked 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: meals on hot plates on the carpet, burned up the carpets, 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: by the way, forty thousand dollars of damage in the motel. 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: JBS footed the bill. A supervisor himself an immigrant, set 52 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: up others to stay in a five bedroom, two bath 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: room unit he leased in town. There, too, people slept 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: on the floors, thirty or more people living in the house. 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Thirty people living in this this four or five bedroom 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: house with two bathrooms. Thirty people charge sixty dollars a 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: week in rent. Sixty dollars a week. Oh, that's right, 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: So that means that they're they're charging for this house. 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: That probably would you know, Clay rent for two thousand 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: a month, maybe something like that, eighteen hundred dollars a week. 61 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're running. 62 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: They've got slumlord operations going on with these migrants taking 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: advantage of them. 64 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: And this is the final line. I'll give you play. 65 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Some workers said they couldn't bear to tell loved ones 66 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: in Haiti about the conditions and that the US wasn't 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be like this quote. It was worse than 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: being in jail, Clay. You know when people talk about 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: all migrants doing the jobs we won't do, and they're 70 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: so helpful the. 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: Community and stuff, there's massive exploitation. 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, the cost that isn't born by 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: these companies that are underpaying and maltreating these workers are 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: born by society with public services, with welfare and hospital 75 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: emergency rooms and public schools that have to figure out 76 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: sixty languages. 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the challenge, right, is the incentive structure. And 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: we heard a big discussion about this in Springfield that 79 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: one reason Haitians are getting hired in Springfield is because 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: our government is doing a better job of subsidizing the 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: employment of illegals and recent migrants than they are actual citizens. 82 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: And I want to mention this too. We had a 83 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 3: call in the first hour sixty two year old undecided 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: voter from Indiana talking about her health insurance, and a 85 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: bunch of you have reacted to that. One of the 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: big challenges on health insurance in general is without knowing 87 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: the particulars of someone's health conditions. And I didn't want 88 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: to dive into the particulars, like hey, what medications are 89 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: you on? 90 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: What's cost? Health insurance a mess? Now? 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: Trump said in the debate that he was not going 92 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: to replace Obamacare unless there was something better. I think 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: he memorably said that he had concepts of a plan. 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: Really our health system and I think most of you 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: out there will totally agree with this is totally broken. 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: And I think that ties in with our immigration system 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: and also the bureaucracy that we have created in the 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: United States in general. So much of it is nonsensical. 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: And I'll give you an example. I don't know if 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: I've told this story on the show, Buck, but this 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: is probably not going to stun any of you. I'm 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: not an expert when it comes to health insurance, and 103 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: we go because we got three young kids, we go 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: a lot of times to like a local health center. 105 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 3: I went in once and I couldn't find my insurance card, 106 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: and I just said, hey, I think I've got the 107 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: wrong wallet. I'm not sure we got an updated insurance card. 108 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: They treated me buck as an uninsured individual. It costs 109 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: almost nothing. We got one tenth of the cost of 110 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: what it would have been if I had presented my 111 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: insurance card. So we got the bills sent to the house. 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: This is a Vanderbilt clinic, and they said, oh, if 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: you don't have insurance, we charge you a fraction of 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: what we charge you if you have insurance. So I 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: just inadvertently did this with one of the kids. I 116 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: couldn't find my health insurance card. We got the benefit 117 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: of me not finding the health insurance card. My point 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: on this is that's happening all over the country, where 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: those of us who have insurance are subsidizing all of 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: these illegals when they show up at emergency rooms and 121 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: run up bills into the tens of thousands of dollars. 122 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: They're never paying you. 123 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: We are, in fact, we have something similar to universal 124 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: health care. It's just the costs are hidden and opaque 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: from the people that are actually paying the taxes. I 126 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: talked about this when the migrant crisis in New York 127 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: was really eating up, and even Mayor Adams himself of 128 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: New York City was saying, we can't handle this. Thirty 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: percent of emergency room hours and staff, you know, attention 130 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: and time were spent on illegal immigrants who had just arrived. 131 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: They're you know, they're not all getting hit by cars 132 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: and mean rushed in the er. They go to the 133 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: er for routine medical correct Now, you could say, oh, well, 134 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: don't be heartless. Everyone needs medical carre Yeah, okay, I 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: understand that's why the ers have to treat people. But 136 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: if you you know, had fallen off a ladder and 137 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: dislocated your shoulder and were an intense pain, and you're 138 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: told that you have to wait for an extra two 139 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: or three hours in the er because other people are 140 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: getting you know, free prescription glasses and whatever courtesy of 141 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: the taxpayer, you might be a little bit annoyed. And 142 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that's very reasonable. I went into an eye 143 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: I actually had this experience. I had an eye injury. 144 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I had cut on my cornea, and I went into 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: like an eye hospital in New York to get to 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: get help Clay, and they were like, You're gonna have 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: to wait a long time. 148 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, what's going on? 149 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: I talked to them, sit there were you could tell 150 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: me there are a lot of people, non English speaking 151 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: individuals who are there for routine eye care. Yeah, you know, 152 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: doing vision tests, doing whatever. And this is a specialized 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: eye hospital and their version of the er. I'm like, 154 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: what am I doing here? So the healthcare system is 155 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: a mess, and it's because it's so complicated that anytime 156 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: you try to talk about it you get hit by 157 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: people who pretend that they have a simple answer. You 158 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: do not want to go to a surgeon in Canada, 159 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: my friends, okay, have some of our Canadian friends. We 160 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: got listeners up north a they can call in and 161 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: tell everybody you do not want to wait six months 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: for your operation or more, or wait six months to 163 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: see a specialist. There are all these things that are 164 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: giant mess. 165 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: You know here in. 166 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: Florida, you drive the airport, what do you see everywhere everywhere? 167 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Ambulance chasing, lawyer advertising. Yes, it is so bad that 168 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: a lot of doctors in Florida can't get insurance. You 169 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: know this for delivering babies, yes, And and you know 170 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: this is something you can imagine your wife is pregnant, 171 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: you want to get you can even have insurance, so 172 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: they have to pay into this like accident pool, which 173 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: is kind of a run around on insurance, and they 174 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: call it going fairback, by the way, when they have 175 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: no insurance. 176 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just have to deal with it. It's crazy. 177 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: One of my best friends that went to law school 178 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: with is a medmol defense attorney, so basically all he 179 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 3: does is defend doctors, and different states have different laws 180 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: as it pertains to what is allowed to occur. But 181 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if I could fix any one thing 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: in America today, it would be the healthcare system because 183 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: it's completely broken. It's illogical. Even the way we do 184 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: insurance doesn't make sense. We connect insurance to jobs, which 185 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: basically makes the employer have to pay massively regularly increasing insurance. 186 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, here's the frustrating thing. I 187 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: bet there's er docs listening to us right now. A 188 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: lot of the healthcare isn't very good, so you're getting 189 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: people going to the wrong doctors, You're getting people not 190 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: able to go to the right doctors. Heck, how many 191 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: of you out there right now now? 192 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: Listening to me. 193 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: Have wanted to go see a doctor for some specific 194 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 3: issue that you have, and you have to go to 195 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: a general practitioner first to get a referral to go 196 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: see the doctor that you need to go see, and 197 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: the data all reflects on top of all this buck 198 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: you know, about half the healthcare that we get is 199 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: completely unnecessary because doctors are terrified they're going to get sued, 200 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: so they run unnecessary test to try to make sure 201 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: that they can't get accused of negligence because they didn't 202 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: order this particular test. The profit margin on some of 203 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: these tests is through the roof, so they're also incentivized 204 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: in a in a perverse way to drive up the 205 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: amount of medical care they give to people. And the 206 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: end result is I don't think most people out there 207 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: feel like they're getting very good coverage. And none of 208 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: this has anything to do with cost, which is the 209 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: number one way that we decide almost everything in America 210 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: is by cost. You at least know what something cost. 211 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: I mentioned this in the first hour. I've had three 212 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: We've had three kids. You go tour the hospital's buck 213 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: they give you like, hey, we have bamboo floors, we 214 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: have Wi Fi we have, like you know, ocean sounds 215 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: for delivery. They never tell you what it costs. I asked, 216 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, why are you not competing on price? 217 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: It's you choose where to go. And they're like, oh, 218 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: we don't know about your insurance. We don't like to 219 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: get in. They couldn't even tell me where I was 220 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: gonna have to pay to have it. 221 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Well, there's a game that they engage in anyway, and 222 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: we'll come back to the Haitian migrants working situation in 223 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: a moment, But there's a game that they engage in 224 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: clay where you said that actually they charge you less 225 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: if you don't have insurance. But there's also the other 226 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: side of it where sometimes especially for specialty things, they 227 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: because they have a deal with the insurance company to 228 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: charge a certain rate, they can also end up charging 229 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: you a lot more if you pay out of pocket 230 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: because they think you have the money. 231 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: Correct. 232 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: So the whole thing is they don't want They just 233 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: want to figure out how to extract as much as 234 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: possible from whatever they can extract from. Yes, so if 235 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: they think you can pay, you'll end up charging That's 236 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: how you pay the most. If they think you can't 237 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: pay and you don't have insurance, then they'll charge the least, 238 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: but they want to keep open the option always of 239 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: billing your insurer and getting as much from the insurer 240 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: as possible. 241 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: A whole thing's mess. 242 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Laura, my wife, who you know well too, was 243 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: got the two bills basically in the same month. And 244 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: she said, how in the world did you only have 245 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: to pay twenty dollars to go for one of our kids, 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: I think, to get a strep throa test or something. 247 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: And the other kid had another issue, and you know, 248 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: it ended up like hundreds of dollars. And she called 249 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: and they said, oh, we marked your husband down as 250 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: not having insurance for whatever reason, so we don't charge anything. 251 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: There. 252 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: I went to an er because I was hoping they 253 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: give me IV because I had a stomach bug years ago. 254 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: I was living and I was like completely wasted with 255 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: food poisoning or something. And I remember I walked in 256 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: and waited so long that I left. I waited three hours. Yeah, 257 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: couldn't get anyone to see me, you know, give me 258 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: an IV bag or like that, because I was completely dehydrated. 259 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: You know, I got a bill. What do you think 260 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: the bill was for? For like ibuprofen, or like tile 261 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: and all or something. 262 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: They took my blod pressure and then sat me back 263 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: in the weighting room. What do you think they charged me. 264 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: It's two hundred and thirty dollars eleven hundred bucks. I 265 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: got a bill for eleven hundred dollars because someone came out, 266 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: took my blood pressure and said okay, and then sat 267 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: me back in the waiting room. 268 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's a broken system. So it's completely broken. 269 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: And by the people that tell you, like Bernie and Kamala, 270 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny. I'm remembering all the battles about Obamacare. 271 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Now that was just a cost shifting program that massively 272 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: expanded medicaid, and we're going bankrupt as a country, by 273 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: the way, overwhelming Obamacare, the coverage increases, we're actually medicaid 274 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: as in healthcare welfare, and we can't afford this. By 275 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: the way, all these migrants are going to be getting 276 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: medicaid and they're not going to be paying federal income tax. 277 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: So how's that supposed to work out for the budget? 278 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: But look at us, we just got on a big 279 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: healthcare discussion. We weren't even planning on it. 280 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, nobody's it's funny. I mean, it's hardly a discussion. 281 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: Point. 282 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: Oh, you brought up that there's very little discussion about 283 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: the health care costs as I have. 284 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: You heard Trump talk about healthcare on any I I'm 285 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: not saying he hasn't. 286 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: Someone's going to say you did. 287 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: I have not heard him talk about healthcare in this 288 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: cycle that I can remember. 289 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: I haven't heard Kamala talk about it. Well, but I 290 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: mean even in the debate, you know, we get questions 291 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: about jan six. I mean probably by far, the thing 292 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: that people care about the most is health insurance rates. 293 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: I know, if you run a business, what you have 294 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: to pay. And to your point to me, this ties 295 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: in directly with the migrant thing. They are never going 296 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: to pay their health care bills. Yes, trust me, you 297 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: listening to this, You're going to pay and they're going 298 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: to raise your premiums to do it for all these 299 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: millions of illegals that are coming in. 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Code Radio for 317 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: an additional five percent off. 318 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: Patriots Radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis 319 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 4: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 320 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. 321 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We should 322 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: mention also the ticking time bomb on healthcare in general 323 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: is that the entire healthcare insurance business is predicated on 324 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: there being way more young people who typically don't need 325 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: health care as much as the elderly do. Guess what's 326 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: happening all over the industrialized world. The population of older 327 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: people is starting to exceed in many countries the population 328 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: of young people, which makes even more of a ticking 329 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: time bomb this entire system. And Jeff, speaking of systems 330 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: up in Canada, I hear from people all the time 331 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: in Canada that they're just fed up with everything going 332 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: on healthcare wise as well. 333 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: What's it like in Ontario? 334 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: Oh, it's horrible. 335 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: You'll wait up to I had to wait almost two 336 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: years just to get a double hernia operation. 337 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: And it's getting us, isn't. 338 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau one of the most loathsome leaders of any 339 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: country in the world. Sorry to put you on the spot. 340 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: I hate that guy. 341 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: I don't even live in his country. 342 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 5: You can't. 343 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: Every second, Carl'll have something Trudeau sticker on the bump. 344 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you for the call. In the update, 345 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I hope you're better now. I mean two 346 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: years to wait for hernie surgery. Hernie a surgery is crazy. 347 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: Justin Trudeau, by the way, buck up in our good 348 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: old fashioned top hat to the north. 349 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: There Canada. 350 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: He's got a twenty some odd percent approval rating right now, 351 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: and I'd pay attention a little bit to Canadian politics 352 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 3: just in the context of obviously it's not that far 353 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: from Detroit or Buffalo or some American cities that are 354 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: in what's considered to be the Midwest. 355 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: He's losing seats. 356 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: Just recently happened that they never believed his party would 357 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: be capable of losing. And I wonder how much of 358 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: that Canadian connection just across the border from places, like 359 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: I said, like Detroit and Buffalo, is also filtering into 360 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: the American Midwest, where you do have more cross cultural 361 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: pollination between those areas. 362 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: It is intriguing. But healthcare is broken. 363 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: No question. Our stock market is experiencing a record financial year. 364 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: There's quite a few people realizing their gains and their 365 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: and four to one K accounts as a result. But 366 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: below the surface of those top performing stocks is there 367 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: are problems. 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Know only do we think she is great? 388 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: President Trump does too. Put this on truth Social The 389 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: Great Miranda Divine understood the harsh reality of the Laptop 390 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: from Hell before the fake news media would even acknowledge 391 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: its existence. Now Miranda has written another blockbuster book, The 392 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Big Guy. How a President and his son sold out America. 393 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: The Big Guy hits stores and the bottom line today, Miranda, 394 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: congrats again on the book and the shout out from 395 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: the other big guy, President Trump. 396 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 6: How you doing, thanks, Bucking Clay. I'm doing really well 397 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 6: and I'm very happy and thrilled that Donald Trump has 398 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 6: actually endorsed the book. 399 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 5: That's terrific. 400 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: How much of this is it feels like it's kind 401 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: of a sequel to Laptop from Hell or you know, 402 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: the next you know, the next phase of the. 403 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: Story, and what's really the focus. 404 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like, just from the title alone, 405 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: you want America to know this really wasn't about a 406 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: guy taking selfies and Tidy Whitey's with aviators on meeting Hunter. 407 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: There's bigger issues here. 408 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. 409 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 6: It is a sequel, and it really is about the 410 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: cover up, you know, the Laptop from Hell and all 411 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 6: our reporting we did that got censored from Hunter. Biden's 412 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 6: abandoned Laptop tells the story of the sort of Biden 413 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 6: family influence peddling. But you know, that's a big story 414 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 6: and corruption is as old as Washington itself, and it 415 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 6: showed us that Joe Biden the President, was potentially compromised 416 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 6: by China because of the millions of dollars his family 417 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 6: had brought in. 418 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 5: But I think the biggest. 419 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 6: Story, and the story that sort of evolved only after 420 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 6: we started reporting out the truth from the laptop, was 421 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 6: the cover up, which began the minute the New York 422 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 6: Post published on October fourteen, twenty twenty, and we had 423 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 6: a big tech Facebook and Twitter sense of the story 424 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 6: immediately lock our account for two weeks until a couple 425 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 6: of days before the election. And then you had these 426 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 6: former intelligence officials fifty one I call them the dirty 427 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 6: fifty one, who signed that letter falsely claiming that the 428 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 6: laptop and our stories were Russian disinformation. What we found 429 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 6: out in the four years since is just mind boggling, 430 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 6: the concerted effort by It wasn't just former intelligence officials. 431 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 5: It was the CIA. 432 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 6: The CIA director herself, Gina Haspell at the time under 433 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 6: Donald Trump, she signed off on that letter. She was 434 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: shown the letter before it was issued to the public, 435 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 6: and she okayed that she gave it the green light. 436 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 6: And we also found out that several of the signatories 437 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 6: of that letter were actually active contractors for the CIA 438 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 6: at the time. And then we also later find out 439 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 6: other interventions by the CIA, including into the investigation of 440 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 6: Hunter Biden in Delaware that dragged on for five years 441 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: because the Department of Justice was obstructing and hobbling the investigators. 442 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: Anytime they tried to find out a follow any of 443 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 6: the evidence trails from Hunter Biden to his father who 444 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 6: was intimately involved in this corruption. 445 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 5: They were blocked. 446 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: They were told, no, you can't have a search warrant 447 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 6: on Joe Biden's property. No, you can't geolocate the phones 448 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 6: that were on Joe Biden's property that Hunter Biden was 449 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 6: telling his Chinese business partners that he was sitting in 450 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 6: a room with his father and his father was angry 451 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 6: that the money hadn't come through. They weren't allowed to 452 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 6: interview Kevin Morris, who you know Hunter's business partners call 453 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 6: Hunter Biden's latest sugar brother, the Hollywood lawyer who basically 454 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: bankrolled his lifestyle and also paid up to six million 455 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 6: dollars for him, including for his IRS over due IRS taxes. 456 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 6: And Kevin Morris, the CIA apparently called in the DOJ 457 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: the prosecutors and told them that he was off limits 458 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 6: for their investigation and the IRS. Investigators who became whistleblowers 459 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 6: were never told why they weren't allowed to interview Kevin Morris. 460 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 6: But eventually the prosecutors they worked with said, well we 461 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 6: got called to Langley and they said leave off. There 462 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 6: were so many instances, and it was not just the CIA, 463 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 6: the FBI, the State Department, as I said, the Department 464 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 6: of Justice, the irs. They all conspired to cover up 465 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 6: the corruption and ensure at the twenty twenty election that 466 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 6: Joe Biden would win and that none of the derogatory 467 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 6: information that we'd uncovered would see the light of day. 468 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: Miranda, you brought this story out in October of twenty twenty. 469 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: We know it was one hundred percent true, yet it 470 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: was censored. As you've laid out, this new book discusses that, 471 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: how concerned are you about a twenty twenty four version 472 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: of what happened in twenty twenty, And if it were 473 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: to occur, what do you think it might look like? 474 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: As certainly that rigging may well have given Joe Biden 475 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: the election in twenty what are you concerned about as 476 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: you look six weeks out here from this election. 477 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 6: Well, that is top of mind, and I think that's 478 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 6: why I wrote the book, because the same people who 479 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 6: covered up and protected Joe Biden really throughout his career, 480 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 6: from his earliest days in the Senate at the age 481 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 6: of twenty nine p thirty, they are now propping up 482 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 6: Kamala Harris. And it's no surprise that in her sort 483 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 6: of endorsement speech at the DNC in Chicago a few 484 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 6: weeks ago, that she made a point of talking about 485 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: the military and the military industrial complex, basically her. 486 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 5: Support for them. 487 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 6: It's no surprise that yesterday you had Vladimir Zelenski, the 488 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: Ukrainian President, intervene in our election, just as early voting 489 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 6: was starting in Pennsylvania. He flies into Pennsylvania to go 490 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 6: and stand alongside Kamala Harris, surrogates and sign bombs in 491 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: a factory there, and he was flown in by US 492 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 6: military aircraft. This is the most outrageous intervention by I 493 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: guess you call it the National Security State or the blob, 494 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 6: as the Obama people used to call that sort of 495 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 6: triumvirate of the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon. 496 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 6: They I mean, even this week there were seven hundred 497 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 6: and forty one members of these high ranking officials of 498 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 6: the National Security State who signed a letter endorsing Kamala Harris. 499 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 6: If you can believe it as a serious and capable 500 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 6: commander in chief, far superior to Donald Trump. And I 501 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 6: think really the agenda is this that Donald Trump as 502 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 6: president presided over a period of remarkable calm. 503 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 5: And peace around the world. 504 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 6: On foreign affairs, he treated everything the way he treated 505 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 6: a domestic policy, just like a developer from a property 506 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 6: developer from Queens. He was practical, first principles, logical, just 507 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 6: tried to fix problems the safest and quickest and cheapest 508 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 6: way possible and most effectively. 509 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: And he did that. 510 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 6: And we saw in the Middle East and the Abraham Accords. 511 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 6: We saw the Vladimir Putin, unlike under Obama and under Biden, 512 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 6: he did not invade Ukraine. 513 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 5: We saw isis defeated. 514 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 6: We saw Iran on its knees, completely broke and unable 515 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 6: to fund any of its proxies to attack Israel. Several 516 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 6: of its high ranking people were wiped out by Donald Trump. 517 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 5: North was in its box. 518 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 6: You know, you would think for the American people, for 519 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 6: America's national interest, all of that would be beneficial. And 520 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 6: yet no, because these national security apparatchiks who are completely 521 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 6: out of control. They are a shadow government, and their 522 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 6: puppet was Donald was sorry, was Joe Biden. Their new 523 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 6: puppet is Kamala Harrison. Of course, her sidekick Tim Waltz, 524 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 6: who plays the same role that Joe Biden did for 525 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 6: Obama as being the sort of foreign policy guy who's 526 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 6: completely captured by China. 527 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: Marana Devine with us the big guy, How a President 528 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: and his son saw That America Her book that is 529 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: out today, sequel to her best selling laptop from How 530 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: Go Get your copy? Miranda, I know you wrote a 531 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: piece of The New York Post. We didn't spend much 532 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: time on this on the show. I kind of wish 533 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: we had dove into a little more. So this is 534 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: our first opportunity. Biden had a cabinet meeting on Friday, 535 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: but Jill Biden was running the cabinet meeting, which I 536 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: think is fair to add considering Biden clearly has cognitive 537 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: decline from age. Is Jill Biden the de facto president now? 538 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: Because I don't think we signed up for doctor Gilder 539 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: on things. 540 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, she certainly thinks that she's pretty important. 541 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 5: There. 542 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 6: She was on Friday, as you said, presiding over a 543 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 6: cabinet meeting, sitting at the head of the table, expounding 544 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 6: on some pet ridiculous project of hers, and then you know, 545 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 6: around the table cabinet members, including sitting right next to her, 546 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: the CIA Director William Burns, had to dutifully applaud her, 547 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 6: while Joe Biden's just staring vacantly into space. I mean, 548 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 6: if anything, he's gone downhill since his disastrous debate. Whatever 549 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 6: they were doing to prop him up and make him 550 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 6: seem relatively rational, they seem to have given up doing. 551 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 6: We hardly ever see him. He had to come out 552 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: of his box, of course over the weekend because he 553 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 6: had the prime ministers from India and Japan and Australia 554 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 6: arrive for that really important quad meeting which is about 555 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 6: sort of stemming China's aggression in the Indo Pacific, and 556 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 6: instead of having them at the White House as they 557 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 6: were last time, as they should be, they were insulted 558 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 6: by being having to schlep all the way out to 559 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 6: Wilmington to Joe Biden's hometown stay in subpar lodgings. While 560 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 6: Jill Biden took over the White House for her own 561 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 6: pet projects, and she had, for instance, the cast of 562 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 6: the West Wing there for a party, and she had 563 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 6: some educators confab on another day, So there was just 564 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 6: no room for the leaders of two billion people to 565 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 6: talk about how to stop China from taking over half 566 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 6: the half the world. 567 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: Miranda, what do you think would happen if China invaded Taiwan? 568 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: But who would actually make decisions in the White House 569 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: right now? 570 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 6: Look, I think it's really frightening to think who is 571 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 6: making the decisions. Obviously, Joe Biden is in no state 572 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 6: to answer the phone at three o'clock. 573 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 5: In the morning. 574 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 6: He's in no state to control the nuclear arsenal. It's 575 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 6: shadowy people. It's Tony Blink, and it's Jake Sullivan, It's 576 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 6: whoever at the Pentagon. It's this shadow cabal, the shadow 577 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 6: government that's controlling things, that will do whatever it takes 578 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 6: to ensure that Donald Trump is not president again. 579 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 5: And I mean whatever it takes. 580 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 6: You know, they are desperate and they think that Donald 581 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 6: Trump is an existential threat not to America, not to democracy, 582 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 6: but to their own power, their own control of things. 583 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 6: So I honestly cannot tell you. I don't think anyone 584 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 6: can really tell you what's going on behind the scenes. 585 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 6: Some people say that Obama is pulling the strings from 586 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 6: around the corner. 587 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 5: That could be the case. 588 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 6: So he has a lot of his people stashed there 589 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 6: at the White House running and the DOJ running things. 590 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: What do you think, Miranda, last quest for you, and 591 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: we appreciate you encourage everybody to go get the new 592 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: book that is out that is rocketing up bestseller list. 593 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: What do you think? Or how long maybe it's a 594 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: better way to phrase it. 595 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: How long do you think it will be until we 596 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: get the true story of Joe Biden behind the scenes 597 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: and how decrepit and frail he has really been. Do 598 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: you think before he leaves a couple of months after 599 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: the inauguration of whoever wins, what does that look like 600 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 3: for the historical record. 601 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 6: Well, I think that all the journalists in Washington who 602 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 6: knew exactly what was going on, will be in a 603 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 6: huge arms race to see who can get the book 604 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 6: out first and get the biggest advance. So they won't 605 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 6: be were they'll be writing it right now, and they'll 606 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 6: push the button after the election because of course they 607 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 6: won't want to damage Kamala Harris's prospects because she's better 608 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 6: than anyone except probably Jill Biden and Hunter Biden. What 609 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 6: Joe Biden's cognitive state was like they were supposed to 610 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 6: be having lunch every week, that sort of piece it 611 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 6: off to just semi regularly. But she was also boasted 612 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 6: about being the last person in the room when decisions 613 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 6: were made. She knew exactly what was wrong with him, 614 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 6: and yet she lied through her teeth to the American people, 615 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 6: telling us that he was sharp as attack and brilliant 616 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: and ready to run another term and no problem at all. 617 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 6: I guess she was hoping that he would stumble across 618 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 6: the finish line win the election so that she could 619 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 6: just be anointed without having to go through the discomfort 620 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 6: of an election. 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Should let you know 656 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: about a story that has broken in the last hour 657 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: or so. Kamala Harrison one of her limited media engagements, 658 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: I believe it was with Wisconsin Public Radio. 659 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: Buck, I'm sure that's exciting. 660 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding said she wants to end the filibuster 661 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: to codify Roe v. 662 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: Wade. 663 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 3: Now this is a big deal. Joe Manchin has just 664 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: said I cannot endorse her. Formerly the Democrat senator now 665 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: turned independent from West Virginia. Kirsten Cinema has written this 666 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: as well. The battle over whether the filibuster should be 667 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 3: maintained in the Senate has been pretty epic over the years. Buck, 668 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: this is a pretty radical idea of Kamalas and again, 669 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 3: I think it's emblematic of the fact that she wants 670 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: her closing argument to effectively be abortion. 671 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: I mean, this is her entire campaign in any way. 672 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: This is It's a big deal on a couple of levels. 673 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: Obviously on the on the abortion side of things. If 674 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: they were to codify, meaning pass a law for all 675 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: fifty states mandating abortion at a certain level. It opens 676 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: up the other side of things, which is, well, now 677 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: Republicans will say, well, if we have the majority, you 678 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: know you're gonna you have the seesaw possibility of abortion 679 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: legal abortion much less legal. I don't think they'll ever 680 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: get rid of abortion everywhere, even Republicans wouldn't go along 681 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: with it. But you know, they might do a heartbeat, 682 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, a heartbeat bill something like that. Maybe I'm wrong, 683 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: Maybe there's actually no. 684 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm not wrong. 685 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 1: They wouldn't get beyond a heartbeat bill right now based 686 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: on where the Republicans are. 687 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: But also getting rid of the philibuster is a big deal. 688 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like what the craziest left wing members 689 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: of Congress have been saying. So they could make DC 690 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: a state, and make Puerto Rico a state, and pack 691 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. So once you get rid of it 692 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: for one thing, you've gotten rid. 693 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: Of it for everything. 694 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: Not only that, it would all also lead to radical 695 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 3: swings in public policy based on limited support member. 696 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to get the Senate. 697 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: That's why, in addition to the presidency going and voting 698 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: in Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Montana and Arizona 699 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 3: and Nevada, all these different battleground states is so incredibly 700 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: important in West Virginia where Joe Manchin is going to 701 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 3: lose that vote. But this I don't think is unintentional. 702 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: It's a pretty radical proposition that Kamala is putting forward, 703 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: and I think it's because they've recognized that other than abortion, 704 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: she really has nothing to run on at all.