WEBVTT - Election Interference - December 30th, Hour 2 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.800 Eight hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:04.280 F one Sean, you want to be a part of 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.920 the program. So what do we do when our FBI 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.040 is trying to influence in the lead up to an 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:17.720 election all these big tech media companies and kind of 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.560 persuade them in a way that well, you don't want 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:25.079 to be a victim of hack materials or disseminating false 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.000 information from Russia or China. And then all of them 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.400 in unison decide, oh, we can't run with the Hunter 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.320 Biden laptop story published just weeks before the twenty twenty 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:41.159 presidential election because we're told by the FBI that this 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:45.520 isn't a good idea. Because that's what happened. I've been 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.080 through the FBI putting their thumb on the twenty sixteen election, 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.720 and now we have two presidential elections in a row 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.760 where they're putting the thumb on the scale in terms 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.720 of one party over another party. You know, we had 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:04.280 a Dorsey, former CEO of Twitter. He told me, no, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.440 Twitter doesn't shadow ban. Listen to this. Let me ask 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.320 about specific questions. Has Twitter ever been involved in shadow banning? 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:16.080 We do not shadow ban, According to political ideology or 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:21.080 viewpoint or content period. We every model that we have 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.360 on the network is really looking at the behaviors on 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.080 the network. We take those behaviors as signals, and I 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.039 do want to point out that these signals evolve minute like, 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.560 minute by minute, hourly by hourly. These are not scarlet 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.560 perm net letters that people then take on as a 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.560 badge and will never be ranked high in search or 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.760 not allowed to trend or ranked hi in conversation. So 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:48.040 these are models that are looking at behaviors and behaviors 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.320 of bad faith actors who intend to manipulate, distract, divide 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.560 a conversation or to unfairly amplify their content which they 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.560 didn't earn. So those are the signals that factor in, 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.360 and we do rank search, we do rank trends, and 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.800 we do rank conversations. Accordingly, that does not affect one's timeline. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.560 If you follow someone on Twitter, you're going to see 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.639 them in your timeline. Now, we do rank the timeline 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.040 for relevance, so it might take some scrolling to see everything. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.320 You can also turn that ranking off in the settings 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.960 so you can see everything in recency order. And then 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.240 of course Elon Muski had a little call on show, 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.280 and what did he say? He said, Yeah, the very 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:35.240 definition of election and aference is the suppression of information, 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.840 which is what happened at Twitter, but not just a Twitter, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.960 but all these big tech companies. And this is Elon 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.560 Musk even saying that it got so bad that Twitter 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.440 served as the arm of the Democratic National Committee. You 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:55.920 are basically exposing collusion between the political party and in 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:03.320 one file that called the Biden team contacting Twitter. I 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:08.960 mean that is an election in deference, isn't it? Yeah? 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:15.320 I mean clearly, if if if Twitter is doing one 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:20.360 team's bidding before an election, shutting down to sentient voices, 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.720 um on a pivotal election, that is a very definition 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.639 of election interference. And what the hell else would you? 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:34.880 Of course, it's like, yes, um, you know that. Frankly, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.360 Twitter was acting like an arm of the Democratic National Committee. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.920 It was absurd, all right? Joining us now, Kara Frederick 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.040 as with us, director of Tech Policy at the Heritage Foundation. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.840 Also what us called ZABO is the Net Choice VP 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.080 and general counsel and professor of Internet Law, George Mason, University, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:59.360 Scalia's Law School. Welcome both of you to the program. Uh, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:04.520 let me ask mister Zabel really simply did the FBI 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.520 by going before all these big tech companies and the 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.080 lead up to the twenty twenty election, they were weekly 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.840 meetings and telling them that they might be getting hacked 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:19.560 materials or phony information from Russia or China or hostile regimes. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.720 Did they in that sense? Were they preparing these companies 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.520 for the Hunter Biden laptop story because they had the 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:33.200 laptop since December of twenty nineteen, eleven months prior. Do 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.120 you believe that was done by design? Sean? Thanks for 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.000 having me on. That's what keeps us all up at night. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:45.720 That's the outstanding question, and that seems to indicate what 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.200 we're learning from these Twitter files that are being dumped 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.440 by Elon Musk, as well as what we heard from 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.400 Mark Zuckerberg a couple of months ago that the FBI 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.359 had been approaching all of the social media platforms that 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:03.080 they had information for over a year, and that they 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.440 were essentially engaging in coercion of social media platforms to 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.760 suppress the story, and that you know, as an attorney, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.400 I can't give you a definitive yes or no, because 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.839 I think the information just isn't out there yet. But 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.360 I am excited because just the other day, Representative Jim 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.359 Jordan began sending out letters to the tech CEOs to 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.440 figure out what the heck the Department of Homeland Security, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.680 the FBI were saying to these platforms. And then I 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.880 look forward to when Republicans take to gabble in the 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:41.000 new year, when Representative Jordan, Representative Comer can haul the FBI, 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.880 the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice before 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.039 them and really find out and get to the bottom 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.640 of how much the FBI engage and potentially coerced the 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.279 suppression of the Hunter bid and locked up story. I mean, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.719 it's that big a deal because now we even have 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.400 a surveys saying that people would have voted very differently 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.760 had they known this story was true. Karl, let's get 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.440 your tech. Yeah, we've had multiple polls indicating that this 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.520 has explicit political implications, not just in you know, across 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.960 the electorate, but its wing states in particular. So I 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.479 think it absolutely had. I mean, most of American voters 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.880 think that this constituted election interference, and that's separate from 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.680 the polls I previously mentioned. And you know, you hear 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.920 the FBI equivocating at this point, they're saying, oh, no, no, no, 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.279 we just made suggestions. We can't force private companies to 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.919 make decisions. But when they're putting the thumb on the 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.000 scale in this way, a private company is going to 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.839 feel compelled by the government to actually make these decisions. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.240 On the Hunter Biden was explicitly mentioned. According to the 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.320 former head of Trust and Safety Joel Roth. Zuckerberg said 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.520 he can't remember if Hunter Biden wasn't voked, but as 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.160 Karl said, that FBI of propaganda dump that he admitted 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.760 to you on broken Uh you know the writings on 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.840 the wall there for him. Yeah, well, that's right. He 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.120 admitted that on Rogan number one and number two. This 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.000 guy Joel Roth that worked to Twitter, he specifically remembers 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.680 being told that it could be about Hunter Biden. Remember, 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.360 there's one of the piece of the puzzle. Because the 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.360 FBAI also knew that Rudy Giuliani had the story. They 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.200 also knew, because they had all of Rudy's files, that 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.440 Rudy was actively working to get this information out publicly. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.600 You know when Rudy got when his house got raided, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.800 they took everything but Hunter Biden's laptop. How interesting is 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.200 that part of it. But the FBI already had their 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.480 copy for eleven months. Are we really to believe that 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.320 in eleven months they didn't authenticate whether or not that 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.520 was really Hunter Biden smoking crack or with hookers, or 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.160 talking about his dad and implicating his dad in this 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.000 you know, potential paper play scandal or influenced pedaling scandal. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.920 That complaining that half his money income goes to dad. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.720 We know he gets all these millions of dollars from 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.200 from hostile regimes with no experience whatsoever. Was not what 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.880 Ukraine was all about. He goes on Good Morning America. Yeah, 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.000 do you have any experience and energy? No, any experience 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:10.400 in natural gas? No oil? No Ukraine? No, why do 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.040 you think they're paying you millions? I don't know, That's 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.320 what he said. And then Joe, of course leveraging a 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.840 billion taxpayer dollars to fire the prosecutor, which that turns 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.400 out was investigating his son. But he never talked to 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.960 his son, according to Joe, about his foreign business dealings. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.320 Does that seem credible to you, Carl, because it doesn't 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.080 seem so to me. Absolutely not. I mean, and let's 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.040 keep in mind, it's not just the FBI. You had 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.439 all these dinosaurs from the Clinton administration coming out of 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:43.120 their caves to denounce the hundred buying laptop as something 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:47.920 that seems like Russian disinformation, and those individuals I look 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.760 forward to getting hauled before Congress and asking what was 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.040 your basis? Were you influenced, did you coordinate? How has 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.040 that done? But Sean, it doesn't just stop there. This 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.439 is happening every single day in this current administration. Let's 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.280 look at what happened when Elon Musk decided to acquire Twitter. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.679 The Biden administration immediately called for the creation of the 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.000 Disinformation Governance Board, led by Mary Poppin. That's not a 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.480 coincidence that Democrats getting really scared that Twitter is going 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.840 to be opened up and it's so longer going to 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.839 be exclusively for promoting the information that they want. Simultaneously, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.160 you have just the other day Karine Jean Pierre, White 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.480 House spokesman, coming out and saying they're keeping an eye 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.440 on what Elon is up to. So this level of 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.679 coercion didn't just stop with the Hunter Biden store is 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:45.320 continuing today to keep the finger on speech online. And 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.600 this is what I look forward to getting more information 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:52.079 on and this is where we need to begin overall 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.199 shrinking the size of the federal government completely. Kara was 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.559 exactly right. There are many levels that the government can 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.400 lead us to rusher businesses, to suppress or promote speech. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.480 You have called for the Federal Trade Commission to stop 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:11.760 Elon Musk's acquisition. You've calls from Scipias to reverse the acquisition. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.319 So there are a lot of levers that the government has, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.560 and what we need to do as a people, as 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.120 I hope this next Congress will do, is start to 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.760 actually shrink the side of the US government. Is overly bloated, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.720 is way too controlling of the levers of power across 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.880 the country. All right, quick, Frank, we'll come back. We'll 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.400 talk more about Twitter and the FBI putting the thumb 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.920 on the scales of presidential elections. 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This is the Sean Nity Show. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.640 Are we continue our discussion about Twitter with Kara Frederick 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.280 and Carl Zabo's with US eight hundred nine one. Shaun 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:28.559 is on number. If you want to be a part 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.600 of the program. I have great respect for the FBI. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.359 Our friends in the FBI, had relatives in the FBI. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.960 The FBI, Kara, should be the world's premier law enforcement agency. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.600 Now Jim Jordan in the Judiciary Committee is now going 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.040 to have to investigate whether or not the FBI has 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.640 been politicized and whether or not the DOJ has been weaponized. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.600 Based on what we know, it certainly seems like it's widespread, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.839 doesn't it. Oh yeah, And that's the story of this 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.360 administration DOJ especially we saw, like you said, the FBI. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.920 I've quoted this before, but Victor Davis Hanson has said 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.040 the FBI is now acting like the Praetorian Guard. So 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.560 you have them cleaning up after Hunter Biden. Remember he 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.920 had illegal firearms, one of which was dumped in his 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.679 dumpster by a paramore. You have them cleaning up over 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.199 James O'Keefe at Project Verituff, trotting him out in his 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:24.280 underwear because he had Ashley Biden's diary, and the FBI 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.440 clean that up as well. So that is, to my mind, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.160 a different FBI than the one that we grew up with. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:34.080 And the DOJ in particular, when they're instituting terrorist tags 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.160 on parents who object for the CRT is being taught 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.920 in their schools, then you have a huge problem when 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.200 domestic terrorism is treated as stuff the Left doesn't like 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.040 and written into not just DOJ, but but DHS as 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.760 well too. This is an agency problem, by the way, 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.320 that impacts somebody in my crew here, Linda, our producer. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.320 She's like a tiger mom, and she's at every school 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.760 board meeting. I'm sure she's on the list of domestic 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:04.760 terror possible potential domestic terrorists because I think you know, 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.800 if you dare teach her precious child Liam anything she 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.400 doesn't approve of. God help you exactly exactly. And that's 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:16.120 what's happening in Biden's America today. He's using these intelligence 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.640 aging feats to clean up his message, to do his 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.439 dirty work, to do the less dirty work, and Americans 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.640 on a wall stripe should rise up in absolutely not so. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:29.000 Jim Jordan Carl has a solution, he thinks, and he's 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:34.760 introduced legislation called Protecting Speech from Government Interference Act. Now, 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.600 I like that. You would think that would be covered 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.320 under the First Amendment, but apparently it's not. As we 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.000 witnessed this election presidential election, the more recent one in 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.160 twenty twenty, and we witnessed in twenty sixteen as well, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.839 and I talked at length about how the FBI used 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:55.360 an unverifiable dirty dossier. They couldn't give Christopher Steele the 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.120 million dollar bounty to prove that it was authentic and 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.920 accurate and true, but they used anyway, is the bulk 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.960 of information to secure not one but four FIZO warrants, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.640 putting out applications with information that was not verified, even 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.840 though it says on the top of a FIES application 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.760 that this information is verified. And by the way, nobody 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.440 in the FBI got held accountable for that. Yeah, the 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.600 Jordan bill that you allude to is a fantastic step forward. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.480 Look I used to be a federal employee. Don't hold 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.240 that against me. But one of the things that I learned, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.840 and much like how the FBI used to be, is 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.880 public service, public trust. You work for all Americans, not 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.920 a political party. Today, we have federal laws called the 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.160 Hatch Act, which precludes federal employees from engaging in political 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.880 activity while they're on the job. Now, one thing federal 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:44.920 employees care a hell of a lot more about than 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.880 their politics is their pension. And what Represent Jordan's bill 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.160 does is goes straight after their pensions, It goes straight 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.880 after their jobs. That makes it very crystal clear that 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.320 whether you're in the White House, whether you're in the 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.440 executive branch, the FBI is the department, and the Homeline 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.640 Security were as if you engaged in coercion of social 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.880 media platforms for political purposes, you will lose your job. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.280 You will face incredible penalties, not to the agency, not 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.680 to the reputational harm of your bosses, but you personally 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.760 will lose your job. You will lose your pension. And 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.080 that's how we make it crystal clear to these rogue, 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.840 woke federal employees that there are repercussions not for the 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.440 reputation as the agency, but for them personally, and that's 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.840 what it Representative Jordan's bill does. It's a great first 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.120 step forward in stemming the tide of what we're seeing 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:40.280 and re establishing trust in the government. Unbelievable times we're 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.960 living in. Thank you both for what you're doing. I 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.840 think the information that you're putting out every day is 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.320 really waking people up to exactly how bad a lot 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.280 of this has men, and how bad it is, and 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.360 what we need to do to fix it. Kara, Thank you, Carl, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.960 thank you. We appreciate being on board. Eight hundred and 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.640 nine four one sewn on number you want to be 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.760 a part of the program, twenty five to the top 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.560 of the our thanks for being with us, toll free 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.920 it's eight hundred ninety four one sewn if you want 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.280 to be a part of the program. So sweet baby. 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.440 James and I had a conversation with a mutual friend 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.040 somebody we've known for a long time. His dad happened 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.120 to be in radio for many many years. His name 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.560 was Roy Masters, kind of around the Barry Farber Barry 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.720 Gray era if you're into the history of talk radio, 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.640 and I remember hearing his David Master's dad at night, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.400 scaring the hell out of me, you know, talking about 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.200 good and evil, and I'm like, you know, it's late 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.920 at night, the room is dark, and I'm like, wow, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.160 this is scaring the crap out of me. But it 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.720 was fascinating radio. And what got me into radio was 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.920 staying up late into the night, driving my parents crazy. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.720 My parents would come in my room. Usually they would 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.160 tell my friends turn that television off. For me, it 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.360 was turned the radio off. And I never wanted to 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.360 turn the radio off, but anyway, so I had a 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.840 passion and an interest in this. A lot of the 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:05.359 discussion was about fear and about how human beings lived 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.359 their lives in fear. And then I've noticed over the 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.320 course of what twenty seven years on television and all 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.159 these years I started radio in nineteen eighty seven, was 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.879 the first time I got behind a radio microphone. I 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.359 guess I'm showing my age here. And I noticed that 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.040 at different times, people, especially on TV, are so nervous, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.399 they just are like petrified. I was down. Remember the 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.359 Terry Shivo case. I told the story on the air before. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.240 So there was a nurse that had taken Kara Terry Shivo, 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.639 and the question was whether or not she should be 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.119 taken off life support. Her parents did not want that 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.040 to happen. Her ex husband did want that to happen, 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.520 and there was suspicion surrounding him. Nothing was ever proven, 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:51.240 but at the time, this lady was very confident as 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.080 a nurse of Terry Shivo that she believed she saw 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.920 life in her so she agreed to be a guest 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.480 on the show. She sits down and literally she is 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.639 shaking like a leaf if you look. If you ask 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.960 most people what the number one fear is, it's public speaking. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.840 She's shaking like a leaf, this poor lady. And and 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:17.080 she goes, what do do do? Why? I say so, 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.960 I'm like, all right, this is gonna be a really 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.959 really crappy interview. Hum because she's not gonna and it's 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.240 she's gonna be embarrassed. I was not trying to embarrass anybody. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.560 I wanted to help her. So what I did was 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.159 I kind of tapped her on the shoulder, just slightly 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.800 harder than a normal Hey, how are you pat on 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.760 the back. And then I noticed that she like looked 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.640 at her shoulder and all of a sudden, the shaking stopped, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.439 and then I said, then I shook her hand, and 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.359 I shook it just a little tighter than you normally would. 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.479 I'm not trying to hurt anybody. And what I was doing, 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:54.240 very consciously, was trying to break this pattern that was 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.240 going on in her mind, and that is that she 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.920 was swimming in a sea of thoughts. Those thoughts were 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.720 creating feelings of fear, and the feelings of fear then 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.199 got her mind spinning even faster. And it says pattern, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:12.200 it's it's thoughts create feelings, feelings create thoughts, etc. Etc. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.040 And anyway, that's what what Roy Masters used to talk 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.880 about on his show. And his oldest son David wrote 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.040 a book, How to Escape the Prison of your Mind 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.920 and how the war between Good and Evil has waged 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.080 in the battlefield of your mind and sweet Baby James 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:30.800 and I were talking to David and I said, well, 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.399 why don't you come on the air and talk about it, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.159 And he's with us. Now. We're going to put a 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:35.960 link on Hannity dot com. If you want to get 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.680 a copy of the book, you can read it yourself. 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.919 It's on Amazon dot com. We'll put it on Hannity 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.240 dot com and anyway, David Masters, welcome to the program. 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.720 What a fantastic opening, Sean. And what I want to 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.840 say to you in response is this that the reason 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.160 why you are resilient is because your thoughts are your own. 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.720 Other people have not been able to impose their thinking, 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:03.200 their negativity on you. But if they had, they would 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.960 have disabled you. They would have crippled you. And that 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.239 has not happened. You're stronger than you've ever been. But 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.040 you see, most people do not realize that all of 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.680 their thoughts are not their own. Now, most people can say, 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.760 at some point, God, where did that thought come from? 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:23.600 And at that moment there is a potential to gain control. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.439 But if you don't realize that there are thoughts constantly 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:31.560 attacking your mind, we are undermined attack all the time. 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.440 And this is the reason why is because once they 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:40.239 can penetrate your defenses, they can begin to know, they 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:44.399 can actually calculate the outcomes of how you're going to react. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.879 And so one of the things that I try to 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.960 explain to people is that in World War One and 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.919 World War Two there was a condition called shell shock, 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.720 and it continued into the Korean War and other wars. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.280 But by the way that may be called PTSD today. Right, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.160 that's actually right, it's known today as PTSD. But I'm 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.000 saying to you, and I know you agree with this, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:09.040 there's no difference between shell shock and culture shock. Post 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:14.639 traumatic stress is affecting everyone, and the intended result of 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.520 systematic worry about economic collapse, crime and corruption, sexualizing children, 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:26.600 social violence, uncontrolled national security, territorial integrity, unemployment, health education, housing, 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.680 food security. It's all weaponized. And what they're doing is 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.240 the more we are reacting to this without realizing it, 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.360 the more upset we become every time we see this happening. 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:43.239 This stress is hypnotic and the intended the intended end 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:47.000 result is drug addiction, mental illness, and suicide. And these 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.760 are the results that we're seeing today. Sean So, I 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.720 work with people at the Fox News Channel. I don't 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.160 know if you know. This is past year. I became 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.560 the longest running primetime cable news host in the history 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.520 of cable news. And nobody more surprised about that than me. 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:05.000 They should have fired me after three days on the job. 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:08.280 I was so bad at it, but I am. And 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.800 when new people come to work at Fox and they 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.919 got that first article written about them that's negative, or 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.359 there's a vejorative in there, or there's a sentence, or 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.639 or they said something that people made fun of, but 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.399 whatever it happens to be. And they'd come to me 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.640 and they'd be upset and they'd be anxious, and they'd 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.159 wonder if they're going to get fired, and how do 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.760 you deal with this? And I'd always tell them, I'd say, look, 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.520 when you get home tonight, just google my name and 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.800 the first thing that'll probably come up is Shaun is Satan, 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:42.960 Sean Hannity Satan. And inevitably every person i'd give that 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.720 advice to would come back in the next day they say, 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.320 how do you put up with that? I'm like, I 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.040 don't read it. I don't pay attention to it. And 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.040 I said, if I do see it, I either laugh 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:56.840 at it or I just don't care. And I said welcome, 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.200 and then I would always end it with welcome to 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.119 the big league, because this is what you're gonna get 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.880 if you're putting yourself out there in the public eye 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.840 on a platform as big as Fox. And I think, 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.720 what if I did learn anything, it's that I don't 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.680 let people impact my feelings, my mood on any given day. 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.439 Sometimes my kids can piss me off, but that's a 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.200