1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Eight hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: F one Sean, you want to be a part of 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: the program. So what do we do when our FBI 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: is trying to influence in the lead up to an 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: election all these big tech media companies and kind of 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: persuade them in a way that well, you don't want 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: to be a victim of hack materials or disseminating false 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: information from Russia or China. And then all of them 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: in unison decide, oh, we can't run with the Hunter 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Biden laptop story published just weeks before the twenty twenty 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: presidential election because we're told by the FBI that this 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: isn't a good idea. Because that's what happened. I've been 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: through the FBI putting their thumb on the twenty sixteen election, 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: and now we have two presidential elections in a row 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: where they're putting the thumb on the scale in terms 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: of one party over another party. You know, we had 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: a Dorsey, former CEO of Twitter. He told me, no, 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Twitter doesn't shadow ban. Listen to this. Let me ask 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: about specific questions. Has Twitter ever been involved in shadow banning? 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: We do not shadow ban, According to political ideology or 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: viewpoint or content period. We every model that we have 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: on the network is really looking at the behaviors on 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: the network. We take those behaviors as signals, and I 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: do want to point out that these signals evolve minute like, 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: minute by minute, hourly by hourly. These are not scarlet 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: perm net letters that people then take on as a 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: badge and will never be ranked high in search or 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: not allowed to trend or ranked hi in conversation. So 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: these are models that are looking at behaviors and behaviors 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: of bad faith actors who intend to manipulate, distract, divide 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: a conversation or to unfairly amplify their content which they 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: didn't earn. So those are the signals that factor in, 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: and we do rank search, we do rank trends, and 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: we do rank conversations. Accordingly, that does not affect one's timeline. 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: If you follow someone on Twitter, you're going to see 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: them in your timeline. Now, we do rank the timeline 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: for relevance, so it might take some scrolling to see everything. 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: You can also turn that ranking off in the settings 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: so you can see everything in recency order. And then 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: of course Elon Muski had a little call on show, 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: and what did he say? He said, Yeah, the very 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: definition of election and aference is the suppression of information, 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: which is what happened at Twitter, but not just a Twitter, 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: but all these big tech companies. And this is Elon 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Musk even saying that it got so bad that Twitter 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: served as the arm of the Democratic National Committee. You 47 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: are basically exposing collusion between the political party and in 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: one file that called the Biden team contacting Twitter. I 49 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: mean that is an election in deference, isn't it? Yeah? 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean clearly, if if if Twitter is doing one 51 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: team's bidding before an election, shutting down to sentient voices, 52 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: um on a pivotal election, that is a very definition 53 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: of election interference. And what the hell else would you? 54 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Of course, it's like, yes, um, you know that. Frankly, 55 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Twitter was acting like an arm of the Democratic National Committee. 56 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: It was absurd, all right? Joining us now, Kara Frederick 57 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: as with us, director of Tech Policy at the Heritage Foundation. 58 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Also what us called ZABO is the Net Choice VP 59 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: and general counsel and professor of Internet Law, George Mason, University, 60 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: Scalia's Law School. Welcome both of you to the program. Uh, 61 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: let me ask mister Zabel really simply did the FBI 62 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: by going before all these big tech companies and the 63 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: lead up to the twenty twenty election, they were weekly 64 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: meetings and telling them that they might be getting hacked 65 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: materials or phony information from Russia or China or hostile regimes. 66 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: Did they in that sense? Were they preparing these companies 67 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: for the Hunter Biden laptop story because they had the 68 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: laptop since December of twenty nineteen, eleven months prior. Do 69 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: you believe that was done by design? Sean? Thanks for 70 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: having me on. That's what keeps us all up at night. 71 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: That's the outstanding question, and that seems to indicate what 72 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: we're learning from these Twitter files that are being dumped 73 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: by Elon Musk, as well as what we heard from 74 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg a couple of months ago that the FBI 75 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: had been approaching all of the social media platforms that 76 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: they had information for over a year, and that they 77 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: were essentially engaging in coercion of social media platforms to 78 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: suppress the story, and that you know, as an attorney, 79 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: I can't give you a definitive yes or no, because 80 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: I think the information just isn't out there yet. But 81 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: I am excited because just the other day, Representative Jim 82 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: Jordan began sending out letters to the tech CEOs to 83 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: figure out what the heck the Department of Homeland Security, 84 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: the FBI were saying to these platforms. And then I 85 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: look forward to when Republicans take to gabble in the 86 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: new year, when Representative Jordan, Representative Comer can haul the FBI, 87 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice before 88 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: them and really find out and get to the bottom 89 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of how much the FBI engage and potentially coerced the 90 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: suppression of the Hunter bid and locked up story. I mean, 91 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: it's that big a deal because now we even have 92 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: a surveys saying that people would have voted very differently 93 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: had they known this story was true. Karl, let's get 94 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: your tech. Yeah, we've had multiple polls indicating that this 95 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: has explicit political implications, not just in you know, across 96 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: the electorate, but its wing states in particular. So I 97 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: think it absolutely had. I mean, most of American voters 98 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: think that this constituted election interference, and that's separate from 99 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: the polls I previously mentioned. And you know, you hear 100 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: the FBI equivocating at this point, they're saying, oh, no, no, no, 101 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: we just made suggestions. We can't force private companies to 102 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: make decisions. But when they're putting the thumb on the 103 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: scale in this way, a private company is going to 104 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: feel compelled by the government to actually make these decisions. 105 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: On the Hunter Biden was explicitly mentioned. According to the 106 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: former head of Trust and Safety Joel Roth. Zuckerberg said 107 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: he can't remember if Hunter Biden wasn't voked, but as 108 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: Karl said, that FBI of propaganda dump that he admitted 109 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: to you on broken Uh you know the writings on 110 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: the wall there for him. Yeah, well, that's right. He 111 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: admitted that on Rogan number one and number two. This 112 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: guy Joel Roth that worked to Twitter, he specifically remembers 113 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: being told that it could be about Hunter Biden. Remember, 114 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: there's one of the piece of the puzzle. Because the 115 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: FBAI also knew that Rudy Giuliani had the story. They 116 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: also knew, because they had all of Rudy's files, that 117 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Rudy was actively working to get this information out publicly. 118 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: You know when Rudy got when his house got raided, 119 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: they took everything but Hunter Biden's laptop. How interesting is 120 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: that part of it. But the FBI already had their 121 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: copy for eleven months. Are we really to believe that 122 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: in eleven months they didn't authenticate whether or not that 123 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: was really Hunter Biden smoking crack or with hookers, or 124 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: talking about his dad and implicating his dad in this 125 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, potential paper play scandal or influenced pedaling scandal. 126 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: That complaining that half his money income goes to dad. 127 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: We know he gets all these millions of dollars from 128 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: from hostile regimes with no experience whatsoever. Was not what 129 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: Ukraine was all about. He goes on Good Morning America. Yeah, 130 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: do you have any experience and energy? No, any experience 131 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: in natural gas? No oil? No Ukraine? No, why do 132 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: you think they're paying you millions? I don't know, That's 133 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: what he said. And then Joe, of course leveraging a 134 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: billion taxpayer dollars to fire the prosecutor, which that turns 135 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: out was investigating his son. But he never talked to 136 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: his son, according to Joe, about his foreign business dealings. 137 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Does that seem credible to you, Carl, because it doesn't 138 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: seem so to me. Absolutely not. I mean, and let's 139 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: keep in mind, it's not just the FBI. You had 140 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: all these dinosaurs from the Clinton administration coming out of 141 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: their caves to denounce the hundred buying laptop as something 142 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that seems like Russian disinformation, and those individuals I look 143 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: forward to getting hauled before Congress and asking what was 144 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: your basis? Were you influenced, did you coordinate? How has 145 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: that done? But Sean, it doesn't just stop there. This 146 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: is happening every single day in this current administration. Let's 147 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: look at what happened when Elon Musk decided to acquire Twitter. 148 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: The Biden administration immediately called for the creation of the 149 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Disinformation Governance Board, led by Mary Poppin. That's not a 150 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: coincidence that Democrats getting really scared that Twitter is going 151 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: to be opened up and it's so longer going to 152 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: be exclusively for promoting the information that they want. Simultaneously, 153 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: you have just the other day Karine Jean Pierre, White 154 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: House spokesman, coming out and saying they're keeping an eye 155 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: on what Elon is up to. So this level of 156 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: coercion didn't just stop with the Hunter Biden store is 157 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: continuing today to keep the finger on speech online. And 158 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: this is what I look forward to getting more information 159 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: on and this is where we need to begin overall 160 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: shrinking the size of the federal government completely. Kara was 161 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: exactly right. There are many levels that the government can 162 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: lead us to rusher businesses, to suppress or promote speech. 163 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: You have called for the Federal Trade Commission to stop 164 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's acquisition. You've calls from Scipias to reverse the acquisition. 165 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of levers that the government has, 166 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: and what we need to do as a people, as 167 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: I hope this next Congress will do, is start to 168 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: actually shrink the side of the US government. Is overly bloated, 169 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: is way too controlling of the levers of power across 170 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: the country. All right, quick, Frank, we'll come back. We'll 171 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: talk more about Twitter and the FBI putting the thumb 172 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: on the scales of presidential elections. Look, if you want 173 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: to improve your shooting, you're gonna love mantis X. 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This is the Sean Nity Show. 183 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Are we continue our discussion about Twitter with Kara Frederick 184 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: and Carl Zabo's with US eight hundred nine one. Shaun 185 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: is on number. If you want to be a part 186 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: of the program. I have great respect for the FBI. 187 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,359 Speaker 1: Our friends in the FBI, had relatives in the FBI. 188 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: The FBI, Kara, should be the world's premier law enforcement agency. 189 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: Now Jim Jordan in the Judiciary Committee is now going 190 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: to have to investigate whether or not the FBI has 191 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: been politicized and whether or not the DOJ has been weaponized. 192 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: Based on what we know, it certainly seems like it's widespread, 193 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Oh yeah, And that's the story of this 194 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: administration DOJ especially we saw, like you said, the FBI. 195 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: I've quoted this before, but Victor Davis Hanson has said 196 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: the FBI is now acting like the Praetorian Guard. So 197 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: you have them cleaning up after Hunter Biden. Remember he 198 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: had illegal firearms, one of which was dumped in his 199 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: dumpster by a paramore. You have them cleaning up over 200 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: James O'Keefe at Project Verituff, trotting him out in his 201 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: underwear because he had Ashley Biden's diary, and the FBI 202 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: clean that up as well. So that is, to my mind, 203 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: a different FBI than the one that we grew up with. 204 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: And the DOJ in particular, when they're instituting terrorist tags 205 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: on parents who object for the CRT is being taught 206 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: in their schools, then you have a huge problem when 207 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: domestic terrorism is treated as stuff the Left doesn't like 208 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: and written into not just DOJ, but but DHS as 209 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: well too. This is an agency problem, by the way, 210 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: that impacts somebody in my crew here, Linda, our producer. 211 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: She's like a tiger mom, and she's at every school 212 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: board meeting. I'm sure she's on the list of domestic 213 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: terror possible potential domestic terrorists because I think you know, 214 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: if you dare teach her precious child Liam anything she 215 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: doesn't approve of. God help you exactly exactly. And that's 216 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: what's happening in Biden's America today. He's using these intelligence 217 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: aging feats to clean up his message, to do his 218 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: dirty work, to do the less dirty work, and Americans 219 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: on a wall stripe should rise up in absolutely not so. 220 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan Carl has a solution, he thinks, and he's 221 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: introduced legislation called Protecting Speech from Government Interference Act. Now, 222 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: I like that. You would think that would be covered 223 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: under the First Amendment, but apparently it's not. As we 224 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: witnessed this election presidential election, the more recent one in 225 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and we witnessed in twenty sixteen as well, 226 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: and I talked at length about how the FBI used 227 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: an unverifiable dirty dossier. They couldn't give Christopher Steele the 228 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: million dollar bounty to prove that it was authentic and 229 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: accurate and true, but they used anyway, is the bulk 230 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: of information to secure not one but four FIZO warrants, 231 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: putting out applications with information that was not verified, even 232 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: though it says on the top of a FIES application 233 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: that this information is verified. And by the way, nobody 234 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: in the FBI got held accountable for that. Yeah, the 235 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Jordan bill that you allude to is a fantastic step forward. 236 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Look I used to be a federal employee. Don't hold 237 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: that against me. But one of the things that I learned, 238 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: and much like how the FBI used to be, is 239 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: public service, public trust. You work for all Americans, not 240 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: a political party. Today, we have federal laws called the 241 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Hatch Act, which precludes federal employees from engaging in political 242 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: activity while they're on the job. Now, one thing federal 243 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: employees care a hell of a lot more about than 244 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: their politics is their pension. And what Represent Jordan's bill 245 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: does is goes straight after their pensions, It goes straight 246 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: after their jobs. That makes it very crystal clear that 247 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: whether you're in the White House, whether you're in the 248 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: executive branch, the FBI is the department, and the Homeline 249 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Security were as if you engaged in coercion of social 250 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: media platforms for political purposes, you will lose your job. 251 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: You will face incredible penalties, not to the agency, not 252 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: to the reputational harm of your bosses, but you personally 253 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: will lose your job. You will lose your pension. And 254 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: that's how we make it crystal clear to these rogue, 255 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: woke federal employees that there are repercussions not for the 256 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: reputation as the agency, but for them personally, and that's 257 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: what it Representative Jordan's bill does. It's a great first 258 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: step forward in stemming the tide of what we're seeing 259 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: and re establishing trust in the government. Unbelievable times we're 260 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: living in. Thank you both for what you're doing. I 261 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: think the information that you're putting out every day is 262 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: really waking people up to exactly how bad a lot 263 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: of this has men, and how bad it is, and 264 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: what we need to do to fix it. Kara, Thank you, Carl, 265 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: thank you. We appreciate being on board. Eight hundred and 266 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: nine four one sewn on number you want to be 267 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: a part of the program, twenty five to the top 268 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: of the our thanks for being with us, toll free 269 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: it's eight hundred ninety four one sewn if you want 270 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. So sweet baby. 271 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: James and I had a conversation with a mutual friend 272 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: somebody we've known for a long time. His dad happened 273 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: to be in radio for many many years. His name 274 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: was Roy Masters, kind of around the Barry Farber Barry 275 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Gray era if you're into the history of talk radio, 276 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: and I remember hearing his David Master's dad at night, 277 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: scaring the hell out of me, you know, talking about 278 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: good and evil, and I'm like, you know, it's late 279 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: at night, the room is dark, and I'm like, wow, 280 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: this is scaring the crap out of me. But it 281 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: was fascinating radio. And what got me into radio was 282 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: staying up late into the night, driving my parents crazy. 283 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: My parents would come in my room. Usually they would 284 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: tell my friends turn that television off. For me, it 285 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: was turned the radio off. And I never wanted to 286 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: turn the radio off, but anyway, so I had a 287 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: passion and an interest in this. A lot of the 288 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: discussion was about fear and about how human beings lived 289 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: their lives in fear. And then I've noticed over the 290 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: course of what twenty seven years on television and all 291 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: these years I started radio in nineteen eighty seven, was 292 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: the first time I got behind a radio microphone. I 293 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: guess I'm showing my age here. And I noticed that 294 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: at different times, people, especially on TV, are so nervous, 295 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: they just are like petrified. I was down. Remember the 296 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: Terry Shivo case. I told the story on the air before. 297 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: So there was a nurse that had taken Kara Terry Shivo, 298 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: and the question was whether or not she should be 299 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: taken off life support. Her parents did not want that 300 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: to happen. Her ex husband did want that to happen, 301 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: and there was suspicion surrounding him. Nothing was ever proven, 302 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: but at the time, this lady was very confident as 303 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: a nurse of Terry Shivo that she believed she saw 304 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: life in her so she agreed to be a guest 305 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: on the show. She sits down and literally she is 306 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: shaking like a leaf if you look. If you ask 307 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: most people what the number one fear is, it's public speaking. 308 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: She's shaking like a leaf, this poor lady. And and 309 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: she goes, what do do do? Why? I say so, 310 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, this is gonna be a really 311 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: really crappy interview. Hum because she's not gonna and it's 312 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: she's gonna be embarrassed. I was not trying to embarrass anybody. 313 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to help her. So what I did was 314 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: I kind of tapped her on the shoulder, just slightly 315 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: harder than a normal Hey, how are you pat on 316 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: the back. And then I noticed that she like looked 317 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: at her shoulder and all of a sudden, the shaking stopped, 318 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: and then I said, then I shook her hand, and 319 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: I shook it just a little tighter than you normally would. 320 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hurt anybody. And what I was doing, 321 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: very consciously, was trying to break this pattern that was 322 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: going on in her mind, and that is that she 323 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: was swimming in a sea of thoughts. Those thoughts were 324 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: creating feelings of fear, and the feelings of fear then 325 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: got her mind spinning even faster. And it says pattern, 326 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: it's it's thoughts create feelings, feelings create thoughts, etc. Etc. 327 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: And anyway, that's what what Roy Masters used to talk 328 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: about on his show. And his oldest son David wrote 329 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: a book, How to Escape the Prison of your Mind 330 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: and how the war between Good and Evil has waged 331 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: in the battlefield of your mind and sweet Baby James 332 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: and I were talking to David and I said, well, 333 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: why don't you come on the air and talk about it, 334 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: And he's with us. Now. We're going to put a 335 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: link on Hannity dot com. If you want to get 336 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: a copy of the book, you can read it yourself. 337 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: It's on Amazon dot com. We'll put it on Hannity 338 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: dot com and anyway, David Masters, welcome to the program. 339 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: What a fantastic opening, Sean. And what I want to 340 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: say to you in response is this that the reason 341 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: why you are resilient is because your thoughts are your own. 342 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Other people have not been able to impose their thinking, 343 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: their negativity on you. But if they had, they would 344 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: have disabled you. They would have crippled you. And that 345 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: has not happened. You're stronger than you've ever been. But 346 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: you see, most people do not realize that all of 347 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: their thoughts are not their own. Now, most people can say, 348 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: at some point, God, where did that thought come from? 349 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: And at that moment there is a potential to gain control. 350 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: But if you don't realize that there are thoughts constantly 351 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: attacking your mind, we are undermined attack all the time. 352 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: And this is the reason why is because once they 353 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: can penetrate your defenses, they can begin to know, they 354 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: can actually calculate the outcomes of how you're going to react. 355 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that I try to 356 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: explain to people is that in World War One and 357 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: World War Two there was a condition called shell shock, 358 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: and it continued into the Korean War and other wars. 359 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: But by the way that may be called PTSD today. Right, 360 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: that's actually right, it's known today as PTSD. But I'm 361 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: saying to you, and I know you agree with this, 362 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: there's no difference between shell shock and culture shock. Post 363 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: traumatic stress is affecting everyone, and the intended result of 364 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: systematic worry about economic collapse, crime and corruption, sexualizing children, 365 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: social violence, uncontrolled national security, territorial integrity, unemployment, health education, housing, 366 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: food security. It's all weaponized. And what they're doing is 367 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: the more we are reacting to this without realizing it, 368 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: the more upset we become every time we see this happening. 369 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: This stress is hypnotic and the intended the intended end 370 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: result is drug addiction, mental illness, and suicide. And these 371 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: are the results that we're seeing today. Sean So, I 372 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: work with people at the Fox News Channel. I don't 373 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: know if you know. This is past year. I became 374 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: the longest running primetime cable news host in the history 375 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: of cable news. And nobody more surprised about that than me. 376 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: They should have fired me after three days on the job. 377 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: I was so bad at it, but I am. And 378 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: when new people come to work at Fox and they 379 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: got that first article written about them that's negative, or 380 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: there's a vejorative in there, or there's a sentence, or 381 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: or they said something that people made fun of, but 382 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be. And they'd come to me 383 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: and they'd be upset and they'd be anxious, and they'd 384 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to get fired, and how do 385 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: you deal with this? And I'd always tell them, I'd say, look, 386 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: when you get home tonight, just google my name and 387 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: the first thing that'll probably come up is Shaun is Satan, 388 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Satan. And inevitably every person i'd give that 389 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: advice to would come back in the next day they say, 390 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: how do you put up with that? I'm like, I 391 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: don't read it. I don't pay attention to it. And 392 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: I said, if I do see it, I either laugh 393 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: at it or I just don't care. And I said welcome, 394 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: and then I would always end it with welcome to 395 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: the big league, because this is what you're gonna get 396 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: if you're putting yourself out there in the public eye 397 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: on a platform as big as Fox. And I think, 398 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: what if I did learn anything, it's that I don't 399 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: let people impact my feelings, my mood on any given day. 400 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: Sometimes my kids can piss me off, but that's a 401 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: different story. Linda pisses me off some days, sweet baby 402 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: James occasionally when he won't answer my tax messages. But 403 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: in all reality is I realized that I don't have 404 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: to react to these people. I don't care what they think. 405 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, there are certain people that I care what 406 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: they think, but not those people that want to ruin 407 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: my day every day. Well, here's the secret, Seoan and 408 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: you know this, and that is that you do not 409 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: resent them. You don't let them get under your skin. 410 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: And see with the average person does not know that 411 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: they're under attack. You see, you know that your undertack. 412 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: You have a conscious awareness that they are trying to 413 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: demoralize you. And that's what they're trying to do to 414 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: our nation. As we all know, they're trying to demoralize. 415 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: This is in every possible way, and they will find 416 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: your vulnerability. And people have a number of vulnerabilities. One 417 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: of those is their children. Look what they're doing in 418 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: the school system. They're teaching your kids about drag Queen's 419 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: story hour. Now, the average parents says that's insane, that's evil, 420 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: But how many people actually stand up to it. Well, 421 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: when people get upset, guess what, you become an inferior person. 422 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: When you're upset, you actually allow them to put their 423 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: nonsense on you and in you, and then you walk 424 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: around trying to figure out what happened to me. And 425 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's a famous saying from a far leftist 426 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: from South Africa. His name is Steve Vico. He said, 427 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: the most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor 428 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: is the mind of the oppressed. Well, here's abortion a woman. 429 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Here's what they did in the abortion movement. You're oppressed 430 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: if you're forced to carry a baby. So what do 431 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: you do? You abort the baby. In the oppression, they 432 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: take these psychological techniques, they put them in your mind, 433 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: and then they make you believe that that's actually a 434 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: solution when it's only the beginning of another set of problems. Sean, 435 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: all right, quick freak. We'll come back more with David Masters, 436 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: who was with us, how to Escade the Prison for 437 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: your mind. We have a cop if you want to 438 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: copy and get one on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com, 439 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: bookstores everywhere. As we continue. The final hour roundup is next. 440 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: You do not want to miss it. And stay tuned 441 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: for the final hour Free for All on the Sean 442 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: Hannity Show More with David Masters. His new book is 443 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: How to Escape the Prison for Your Mind, How the 444 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: War between good and Evil is waged in the Battlefield 445 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: of the Mind. Anyway, it's up on hannity dot Com 446 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: if you want to get your copy. I think the 447 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: lesson for most people is is you've got to understand 448 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, you can't let 449 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: other people will impact your life, your feelings, and that 450 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: you have to have a degree of self control yourself, 451 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: and that it is within us to control ourselves. We 452 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: do have the ability. We're not animals, right, we have 453 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: the ability to discern right from wrong. We are aware 454 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: that we exist unlike the animal kingdom. And at some 455 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: point I think people have to learn. You mentioned something 456 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: earlier that I think is very pivotal. You got to 457 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: learn to forgive other people. You've got to not let 458 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: them bother you. And you also have to live in 459 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: a position mentally, emotionally. And I learned a lot of 460 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: this through my martial arts practice, where you are focused, 461 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: dialed in to the moment right now. The only thing 462 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: in my mind, David is talking to you. That is 463 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: the only thing I'm thinking about. I'm not thinking about 464 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: TV tonight. I'm not thinking about sweet baby James making 465 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: weird faces at me. I'm thinking about what we're discussing 466 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: here and listening to the words you're telling me, because 467 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: they're I think they're pretty powerful. Well, I tell you 468 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: that one of the things that I learned over many 469 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: years and I've been in the game that you're in. 470 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: I produced six of the top ten radio shows in 471 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: the history of radio, not yours, unfortunately I wish I had, 472 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: But I was also under assault from the people that 473 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: I was working from people that were very angry, people 474 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: that were very manipulative, controlling. The only reason I survived 475 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: a particular host who was very popular at one time 476 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: was because I didn't care either. I didn't have to 477 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: live with that person. At the end of the day, 478 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: I could go home and forget about everything that was 479 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: put on me. This person threatened to assume me every 480 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: day that I tried to help him do a great show. 481 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: So yes, if you learn how to control your reaction, 482 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: which is really what this book is all about, how 483 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: to escape the prison of your mind, don't let people 484 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: or don't let them invite you into your own prison 485 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: through a ridiculous and unnecessary emotional reaction. And so what 486 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: I've done with this book, Sean, is I put the 487 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: complete Russian textbook on psychopolitics in here. There's been a 488 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: roadmap that existed since the nineteen twenties. It's called brainwashing. 489 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: And since this is of the Russian textbook on psychopolitics, 490 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: it's in my book with notes of examples of how 491 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: they've done this to us. By the way, I was 492 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: glad you put that in there. I've read that previously. 493 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: I read that years ago. Yes, and it's a roadmap 494 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: how governments control people exactly. But here's the thing. What 495 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: I've also put on my website, which is Escape your 496 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: mindsprison dot com, is there's a exercise, a concentration exercise 497 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: that helps you to step back and learn to be objective, 498 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: which is it puts a firewall between you and the 499 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: insanity that's coming at you. And that way, you don't 500 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: you don't agree with unconsciously with the pressures that's coming 501 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: at you, and you don't you don't walk into your 502 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: own prison, which is what people are doing. And then 503 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: when you're in that prison, if you don't know how 504 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: to get out, then you look at the world you say, well, 505 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: there's no hope. I might as well just end it anyway. 506 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: That's some pretty depressing thought. But sadly, a lot of 507 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: people I think are miserable just because of the way 508 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: they think. Well, but why do they think the way 509 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: they do because they've allowed influences that you have not allowed, 510 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, you knew that if you started to allow 511 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: those influences to penetrate you, that that would erode yourself confidence, 512 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: and it would it would cripple you, to keep you 513 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: from telling people the truth that you tell them. Do 514 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: you realize how many people that you've affected in a 515 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: positive way? I listened to your show literally almost every day, 516 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: and I hear people saying, Sean, when I started listening 517 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: to you, I was a liberal. But when I started 518 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: thinking about the reason that you were laying out the 519 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: logic that you bring to this program, you have liberated 520 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: so many people. And but each one of us has 521 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: the same potential to do that to others. And that's 522 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: why I wrote this book. The book is phenomenal. It's 523 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: up on hannity dot com. Also, David has his own website. 524 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: It's how to escape the prison for your mind. What's 525 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: your website? Escape your Mind's prison plural www dot escape 526 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: your Mind's prison dot com. And there there's a concentration 527 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: exercise that will immediately begin to relieve the stress because 528 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: it's the struggle, it's the quicksand of the mind that 529 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: you sink into when you struggle. Once you stop struggling, 530 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: your mind begins to release and you begin to be 531 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: able to reason and see clearly and make choices the 532 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: way Sean Hannity does well Listen through the grace of God, right. 533 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like, you know, I was 534 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: raised Catholic, but I'm more of a non denominational Christian 535 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: at this point in my life. But you know, they 536 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: talk about praying unceasingly and if you keep your mind 537 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: on more heavenly things, godly things, it's almost in and 538 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: of itself, an impenetrable shield that you've created for yourself, 539 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: where you know what other people are doing and saying 540 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: can impact you, affect you, change you, alter you, ruin 541 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: your day, whatever it happens to be. But anyway, it's 542 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: a fascinating discussion, a great read. The synthesis of Russian 543 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: mind control techniques are very very interesting, and I think 544 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: you might recognize some of our own media in there 545 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: as well, and things that are done and said and 546 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: repeated and that people begin to believe. But David Masters 547 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us. We have it up on 548 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com and glad you could take the time 549 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: to be with us. It was a great honor. Thank 550 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you very much. Sean, appreciate it all right. 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