1 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on a 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's do a live on a Monday editiontive 7 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Plea the Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is 8 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: the Great Gibbey. 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: Hey, buddy, Hey, we're back of us, are back two thirds. 10 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: That's all right, exactly. He's got commitments today. 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: I do know that. 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got some stuff going on. 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: So I know, did you have you know, it's been 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: a while, so I'm trying to think last time we 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: were in here, like we produced a ton of content 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: because we had all we've done all of the the 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Victory Fridays, We've out all of these things that we've done. 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: But in terms of us in studio, the last live 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: show was like a was it a Wednesday. 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: The twenty sixth? 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, June the twenty sixth, And that honestly seems like 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: a blink ago. It seems like a snap of the 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: fingers ago that we were in here doing this. But 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: time flies, and as you and I were lamenting before 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: the show started, like NBC went off to football camp 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: this morning, and it occurred to me that that summer 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: is over for all intents and purposes when you do 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: what we do. And then you said, oh, yeah, I'm 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: driving to the Greed Briar in sixteen days. 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, ten year reality. Yeah, that's we came back. We 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: were in the Sunshine State very uh, some sun, a 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: lot of rain, very hot. Yeah. Yeah. We got back 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: on Saturday, late day. My wife's like yeah right, I'm 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: like I just realized I have one more day and 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: then it's go time. Like it's not go time two 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: weeks from now when players are here, Yeah, go time now. 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: So we're ready to go in two weeks. 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: We uh. This is look, this is this is the 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: life we've chosen. I wouldn't trade it, love it. But 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: when you are on a football team's calendar, you are 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: You're on a different calendar. And so for us, I mean, 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: the football team will be here in two weeks from today. 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: Correct, rookies and QBS today, coaches, two weeks two weeks yesterday, 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: rookies and QB's two weeks from today, veterans tomorrow. 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, two weeks two weeks from tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: so this will go very very quickly, and you're going 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: to be there and then then you're going to start 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: to build this team again. And then you know, once 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: you get into that, then it's a sprint and you'll 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: wake up and we'll be in Indianapoli. You'll be in 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Indianapolis at the draft this year. I've sworn it off, 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: but no, the uh no, it's it's what's coming, is that? 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: And so that's the reality. 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: Now. 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: The great the rest of you will pay attention once 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: we get to camp, the diehards people listening, We'll pay 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: attention to camp. They'll look for this and that. But 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: the gross many of our fans, you're this is the opener. 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: That's the one you're going for. Is the opener. Because 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: you have a ready made team. There will be things 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: that happened down at the Greenbrier that will take note of. 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I remember being particularly 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: misleading a year ago was remember Dewan Jones early on 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: in Greenbrier, like physically just was not up to up 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: to it. Well, it wasn't ready, and it was like, boy, 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: he's got to get going a little bit here. Well 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: he did, Boy did he and he was fine. 68 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: A nice weekend. 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: By the way, did you see him at midd Ohio. 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: I didn't see him at midd Ohio, but I saw 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: him post a number of different things. Yes, you look 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: like he was living his best. 73 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: I think he had a great time. So he did. Gentlemen, 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: start your engines at midd Ohio. The IndyCar race was 75 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: there yesterday. So he did that and handled it very well, 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: and that was very cool. And so our guys are 77 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: still going through that. But in terms of the overarching 78 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: point of that for this team, it will really be 79 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: about the season. That's the type of team we have. 80 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: We don't really have any question marks Deshaun back to 81 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: healthy and playing an entire season. But outside of that, 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 2: everything else the quest have been answered. So camp will 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: be about building a team camaraderie. Something they did a 84 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: year ago when they were at the Green Brier that 85 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: anytime we had a player in they would say, boy, 86 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: that's where it started. They will attempt to do that 87 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: again and and the building of that will start two 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: weeks from today when those rookies and QB show up. 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it goes downhill quick I mean it 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: could be worse. I mean the Hall of Fame game 91 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: stuff starts. If you're in that game, it starts later 92 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: this week, early next week. 93 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, that's right. 94 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 3: I mean they're starting ten days before our ten days. 95 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. If you're in that Hall of Fame game. 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: That's so. That's Bears Steelers this year. 97 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I believe. 98 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: Is it Bears? 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 3: It Bears for sure? 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: I think it's it's Bears Steelers, right, because isn't this 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: the It's weird when it's not you stop paying attention 102 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: to who's in it. For some reason, I think Pittsburgh's. 103 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: In it this year in the Hall of Fames, I'm 104 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: looking Houston, Houston. 105 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: It's Houston and the Bears. 106 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeap, Texans Bears. Thursday, August first, we'll still be at 107 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: the Greenbrier. You'll still be at the end day nine 108 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: of the Greenbrier. 109 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be at the Greenbrier on that day, all right, 110 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: Ready to get come home? Yeah. I was down there 111 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: for so Houston will be debuting their new uniforms in 112 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: that game. I was at. This was probably about a 113 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: month ago. I was down in Canton and they had 114 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: the new uniforms out that lions one goes that thing 115 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: pops Man. They had that on the shelves. First time 116 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: I'd seen it in the wild. It's absolutely gorgeous. So 117 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: they did a very very good job with that one. 118 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Why would your break? So you went down to Florida. 119 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: You had some good a little bit of good time. 120 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: If at first you don't succeed, try try try seven times. 121 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: Is the charm to actually get home on the day 122 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: that and the time that you're so this time it 123 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: all worked. Yeah, of course it was on a Saturday. 124 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: I moved it back. I moved my vacation up a day, 125 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: so I thought you could have, yeah, alleviate the problem. 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: It was great, very hot. It is rainy season in Florida, 127 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: so you're going to work around that. But had some 128 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: great times with our friends, the Guminy's and uh, you know, 129 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: went down on Tuesday morning, came back Saturday afternoon. 130 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: And all went smoothly. It was. 131 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: It was really nice, had a great time, hit some hit, 132 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 3: hit a rum distillery. What goes wrong a lot. 133 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: She's got to be all about that. 134 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: So the guy that owns the place is from Austria. 135 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Okay, his wife. 136 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: Is one of the children who own Yeggermeister. Her name 137 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: is on the bottle of yp What goes wrong when 138 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: it's storming sideways, the ubers not coming because the weather's bad. 139 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: What happens, Oh, you do lots of shots and so 140 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: that's right, distillery, that's. 141 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: Right, that's exactly right. Austria rum I would not have 142 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: had that connection. 143 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: I have some bourbon okay that they that they're now distilling. 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: It was. It was very cool fourth of July, unbelievably hot. 145 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: The heated next with about one hundred and eleven. 146 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 147 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: Uh the only day it didn't rain, which was great 148 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: for everybody. Like it's a holiday, you don't want it 149 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: to rain. Yeah. So we're at this pool. Now we're 150 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: at my in law's development yep. And my in laws 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: aren't there. And the development that they're in is fifty 152 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: five and older. 153 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: Yep. 154 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: Okay, we're kind of the young's. 155 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: You're like Kramer is at Del Boca Vista. 156 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: You I'm living my best life that day at Del 157 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: Boca Vista. It is that there's a main pool. There's 158 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: there's four pools. Yeah, we're at the main pool. The 159 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: pub is there. There's a big party. DJ all this stuff. 160 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: We get set up, and I noticed there are signs 161 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: posted everywhere like if you don't want to get wet, 162 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: and by wet meaning sprayed shot, whatever the case might be, 163 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: this is not the pool for you today. And I'm like, 164 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: what is going on? Yeah, nothing like a fifty five 165 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: and over water gun party for four hours? Oh come on, 166 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: And I am not kidding you. It was amazing. I 167 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: got into a water gun fight with like a bunch 168 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: of sixty year olds and I got my you know 169 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: what kicked because they had like super soaker like water cannon. 170 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: They're ready to go. 171 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: I've got I've got two little water pistols that someone 172 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: handed me. And I'm like, well this is I can't 173 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: win this. And my buddy and I got decided to 174 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: throw down with a group of people. And it didn't 175 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: matter where you were, Like if you went to the 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: restroom and you came out, they. 177 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: Were like you're dry, like and they just let you up. 178 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you had to put all your stuff thank 179 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: god there was a DJ because the speaker got put 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: away and phones everything had to be like in waterproof 181 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: bags and covered up. With time, there was nowhere on 182 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: the pool that was safe there were people that would 183 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: bring like their little kids, and I'm like, it ends 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: poorly for this group. I don't think you want this today. 185 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: Isn't it funny how we age almost in reverse. You 186 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: get to everything's so serious, and you get to that 187 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: age and you're in your sixties, You're like, you're twelve again. 188 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: They did not care about the booming, flowing shots. Some 189 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: woman shows up. I'm not I don't even I don't 190 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: even know how to describe how big it was. Probably 191 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: from this corner to that corner. God, like, it's in 192 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: inflatable floating army tank. She gets in it with water gun. 193 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: I mean she is just it's got a water cannon. 194 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, where where did you get this? 195 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 196 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. 197 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: So where are we? What is the technology and water guns? 198 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: Is it still the super Soaker? Is that still the 199 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: premiere water gun? 200 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? And and it's still like but they've got like 201 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: they had these foam ones where you just kind of 202 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: like drain the pool. Oh yeah, then you shoot and 203 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: you could shoot twenty feet, yeah, thirty feet. 204 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: So I know, I got some battery operated ones for 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: the boys that were supposed to be like tactical water guns. 206 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: But the problem with it is they didn't hold much water. 207 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: So once you take out that that and you shoot it, 208 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: you're done. 209 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: And that was one of the guns I had. 210 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: One of those guys. I was thinking, like this is perfect, 211 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: Like this is really. 212 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: I'll be great. I can spray everybody. No, I was 213 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: a drowned rat. 214 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't. You can't refill it quick enough 215 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: in order to make it worthwhile. 216 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: But it was that that was a very fun day, 217 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: A very below average fireworks show that night in downtown 218 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: Fort Myers that I had to sit. 219 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 4: Well. 220 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean at this point, we're on like our ten 221 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: of drinking. Yeah, you've had a day. It's we're done. 222 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: And the fireworks got delayed. Supposedly the truck broke down 223 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: on seventy five that were bringing the fireworks. It's like 224 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: ten to fifteen. I'm like, shoot the things off, please, yeah, please, 225 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: I need to do this. Yeah this is I started 226 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: at ten am. I'm done. I need to leave. 227 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Do you know what the what is the law for 228 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: Ohio and fireworks. 229 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: Lawlessness? 230 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I was going to say, Like I 231 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: don't know if there is a law, if what we're 232 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: allowed to do or what we're not supposed to do. 233 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: But from what I can tell, there is no law. 234 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: If there is a law, it is at best tepidly enforced. 235 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: There's very little law to any of it. And it's 236 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: been going on since really the third or the second. 237 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: We've had fireworks almost every night just around. We've gone 238 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: to some. We went to one of the club on 239 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: Thursday when we're up at the lake on the fourth 240 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: and the fifth, and saw them up there too, And 241 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: it feels like there's just anybody can do whatever they want. 242 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: I don't imagine that that's the case, but it does 243 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: feel like that that's the case. 244 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: I guess from what I can tell, there's a law 245 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: in place, but if cities didn't want to sign onto 246 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: the law, then they can do their own. 247 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: Law, do whatever they want. 248 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, Like in Olmsted Falls, you could shoot 249 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: fireworks off Friday and Saturday before the fourth, the Friday 250 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: and Saturday after the fourth and on the fourth And 251 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: I might be wrong on that. Yeah, it's like four 252 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: p to eleven p and it's just beay rude everywhere, 253 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: just bombs, yeah exactly. And I'm like, well that's fine 254 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: and dandy. But at twelve thirty this morning, Yeah, when 255 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: they're going off two doors down from me, I'm like, 256 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: how about okay, how about not? Yeah, we've we've done 257 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: this already. The fact that you're still doing this, Yeah, 258 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: we're done. We're good. 259 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: Are you're good at this? Holidays over since last week spoke, 260 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: I had we did our first away lacrosse thing for 261 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: the children. So we were in Rockford, Illinois, which is awesome, 262 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: really great. Wait a minute, it's fine. It's a fine 263 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: down it's a fine town. At first, I was like, 264 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: is he really going on the amount of the distance 265 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: it takes, The time it takes you to go a 266 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: very short distance around Chicago is stupefying to me. You know, 267 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: I always say there's absolutely nothing I want to do 268 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 2: in Indiana, Like, absolutely nothing. This was exacerbated. Their inability 269 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: to navigate a turnpike is stunning to me. Ohio, Like 270 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: in Indiana, they will just arbitrarily stop you on the 271 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: freeway to take your tag, to do the easy passer 272 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: to pay, Like there's several of these on eighty on 273 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: the way to Chicago. There's several of them where you're 274 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: going to am I getting get you know how us 275 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: if you exit a for exit it, then that's when 276 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: you got to pay at an exit. Not there, smart 277 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 2: intelligent thinking, you would think they also still have all 278 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: the gates. So inevitably, in three separate occasions, there were 279 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: people who had easy passes that wouldn't register on the 280 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: damn thing, and so they're just stuck in an easy 281 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: pass lane with cars behind that can't get through. It's 282 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: such a mess. They do not maintain their roads at all. 283 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: I mean, compared to Ohio, it's not closed, like as 284 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: soon as you cross over the Ohio Indiana border the 285 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: road goes to hell. I'm thinking, I'm paying for this, 286 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: this should be a pristine road, like what are we 287 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: paying for here? And then the bottleneck that is Chicago 288 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: from a trap standpoint, the fact that this is not now. 289 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: I have not driven to Chicago since probably a big 290 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: ten media day in like a decade ago. Sometimes it 291 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: was like the last time I've driven to Chicago. But 292 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: the idea that it's gotten no better and from what 293 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: I can tell is significantly worse even is really remarkable. 294 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: The fact that you cannot enter or exit a the 295 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: turnpike with any sort of pace at all even you're 296 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: trying to go around Chicago because you had to go 297 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: around it to go to Rockford an hour and a 298 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: half north. I'm trying to go around it. You can't. 299 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: You're going twenty miles an hour. It pop up on 300 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: the ways, You're stuck in traffic for forty five minutes, 301 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: and you just go, my god, what is happening? It 302 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: took eight plus nine hours to get to Rockford, Illinois. 303 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: From here. It should be a six forty five drive. 304 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: It was upwards of nine. It was an absolute debody. 305 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: Did you go on Thursday or you went on Friday? After? 306 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: We left Friday early? Okay, Friday early, so you had 307 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: the But it happened on the way back, Like Sunday 308 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: at three o'clock, I was going around Chicago and same 309 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: thing happened, like just couldn't move, just stuck, and I 310 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: gotta go back there this weekend. I'm not at all 311 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. 312 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: It's absolutely what is the infatuation with Rockford? And I 313 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: you a bunch of people that went. My cousin was 314 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: up there with with his with his kid making their debut. 315 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: The people across the street were up there. I'm like 316 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: it was a big It. 317 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: Was a really big in terms of amount of teams tournament. 318 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: And it's what's happened? I mean, well, you remember when 319 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: he went to Indy for the for our practice with 320 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: the cold. Sure, well I'll be there in two weeks. 321 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: So what's happened is these communities they build. They have 322 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: this farm land and you build fields, and if you 323 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: build it, they will come, and as it turns out, 324 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: they do so, Like it's so funny how it all works. 325 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Like they were charging fifteen bucks a car for parking. 326 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm thinking you could have charged one hundred dollars a 327 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: car else where else am I going to park. We're 328 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere. You could have. No one's 329 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: going to bat an eye at it at this point 330 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: in fact, this weekend and we're in northern suburbs of Chicago, 331 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: and like the prepaid parking sixty bucks for that, and 332 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, pay it because I'm not I can't be walking. 333 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't know who knows what that could mean? Correct 334 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: by the time you're there, the one saving grace of 335 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: the trip is other than hanging out, there were two 336 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: stories that came at number one. We did South Bend 337 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: for the first time. So I've never been to South Bend, 338 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: and I think it's probably it takes a lot to 339 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: impress me in terms of I've been to a lot 340 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: of these campuses. Has been lucky enough to ben to 341 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: a lot of them over the years. I was floored 342 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: by this campus. Floored the mix up, the way that 343 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: they married, like the modern architecture that they're building to 344 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: their traditional buildings. It almost makes it look like it's 345 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: always always been there, all of it. And that's a 346 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: hell of a thing to do to get it to 347 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: match up, but it really does. So that place was remarkable. 348 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: We did kind of a tour Buddy mine very very familiar, 349 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: so we'd kind of a tour of it with the 350 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: basilica and the grotto and all that stuff, and then 351 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: we walked in the bookstore. And I would tell you 352 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: that the main bookstore on campus at Notre Dame, the 353 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: best example I could think of it in other sports 354 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: would have been like the Master's loot tent. Like it 355 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: was the most impressive bookstore I have ever seen. It 356 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: was enormous. It was two floors of an enormous building 357 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: chock full like you could not anything that you would 358 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: ever want associated with Notre Dame, and you say to yourself, 359 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: how do they build all these buildings? I'm thinking that's 360 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: how Yeah, right, there. 361 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Can we put log? What can we put the little 362 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: fighting Irish guy on? 363 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: Dude? 364 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: It was crazy, absolutely crazy, absolutely crazy. So that was 365 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: very impressive. And then so in Illinois, uh, marijuana is 366 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: legal green lights. So we're at a hotel. Right next 367 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: is the dispensary, which we are too now right, but 368 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: although I don't see it, I think we're legal, but 369 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: I don't not yet. Yeah, it has been fully signed 370 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 2: off on, right, I haven't seen like dispensaries. Hey, come in, 371 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: so I don't. I don't when that's gonna happen, but 372 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: it's there. So our hotel was right next to one. 373 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: And you know, you get a bunch of boys, twelve 374 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: year olds at in the middle of nowhere at a 375 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: hotel and they're running around, playing ghosts in the graveyard 376 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: all this stuff. And so they were I mean kttle mighty, 377 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: like the poor guy running the hotel was chasing around 378 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: like it was just boys being boys. Right, So it 379 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: comes to the end of the night and they're all 380 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: like out in a cornfield, like running and stuff and 381 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, me and this other mom walk over there, 382 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: and they're like the parents the parrots. So they all 383 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: came sprinting in. So I grab NBC and I'm like, 384 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, what was going on there? He's like, Dad, 385 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: there was this guy and we were following him and 386 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: I think he was smoking a blunt. And I go, 387 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: what I've ever heard you say? What are you talking about? 388 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: Smoking a blunt? And I said why you? First of all, 389 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: do you even know what that is? Second of all, 390 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: why would you follow somebody who's doing that? That doesn't 391 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: seem like the right choice at all? No for twelve 392 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: twelve year olds, although I suppose with twelve of them 393 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: you could probably handle him. But still, I'm like, this 394 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 2: is bad, bad job out of you entirely. And then 395 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 2: it occurred to me, like I guess in Illinois. The 396 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: answer to that is, so what. 397 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can, he's living. He's living his life. 398 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: It's all bored now, baby, like you're gonna have I 399 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: don't know if there's like open you. 400 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: Guys want to follow me, follow me around. I don't care. 401 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: I don't think he cared. He's fine. So that was it. 402 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: That was your big but that, so that was a 403 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: little bit of getting used to that. We had a 404 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: really nice holiday. We did fireworks and all that stuff. 405 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: All right, So no University of Wisconsin. 406 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: No, because our games got switched to Uh it's been 407 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: so long, I can't even remember. And Beamsy had a 408 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: game at seven am Saturday morning, and both boys were 409 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: theoretically supposed to play in the morning instead, uh, seven am. 410 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: And then NBC's last game is at five forty five, 411 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: So I was outside in Rockford, Illinois for twelve hours. Yeah, 412 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: and then Portillo's, I think is where we the Chicago joints. 413 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: So I've eaten there once before in my life, and 414 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: it was when I did an in tternship at Channel 415 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: seven in Chicago, like twenty five years ago, ninety probably yeah, 416 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: or yeah, right around nineties, late ninety Yeah, yeah, probably 417 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: two thousand and ninety something like that. I should know exactly, 418 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: but it's somewhere in there. Anyway. That was the last 419 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: time I had it. I remember it being very good. 420 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: I hadn't had it since I ordered it. I remember 421 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: it very being very very good. And I could also 422 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: wait twenty five years before I have it again. 423 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: Got it? However, you're going back this week. So Fortilla's 424 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 3: for the selection are the selections plan for northern suburbs 425 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: this weekend in Chicago. So that's right. 426 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: I would assume that we've I don't know what that means. 427 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: I go check out Northwestern Northwestern. I don't know how 428 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: far I am from, like Wrigley, like. 429 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: Probably, Oh yeah. I had a friendly confine. 430 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: The buddy of mine told me is like, I'm like, 431 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: and we are. We have to go to Massachusetts at 432 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: the end of the month. But he was like like lamenting, 433 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: like that, can we go to Maryland? Can we go 434 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: someplace like that? And he's like, dude, it's not like 435 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna go there and do anything. You're gonna be 436 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: a to use sports complex for twelve hours and you're 437 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: going pass out. That's what's going to happen, and that. 438 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Is what it is. 439 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: Reat and do it again the next day and that's it. 440 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: So did the boys do well with this? 441 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 442 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: They did. NBC's team finished third. They went four and 443 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: one or five and one four and one five are one. 444 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: They lost to the team that ended up winning it 445 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: in the semifinals, and Beamsy's team, uh got to the 446 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: semifinals and lost so they did well. It was good. Yeah, 447 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: it was good. 448 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: It was good. 449 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: And then we'll run it back and see how. 450 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: They do this with Fourth of July. You survived, got 451 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: through it. I heard it rained here, but then it 452 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: like cleared up fireworks. 453 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: The club did it on the third. Then we went 454 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: to the lake for the fourth and fifth, and the 455 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: lake was pretty good. Like that's always cool because you 456 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: can see kind of them all the way around the bay. 457 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: They all kind of go all the way to Cedar Point, 458 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: then Kataba, and then all the way to Port Clinton. 459 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: Like you can't even see putting Base. You kind of 460 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: see it all the way around. So that was pretty good. 461 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: Buddy hates them. Buddy already hates them, but my dogs 462 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: hated him as kids. Like when we would do them, 463 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: they would run to the barn like they're gone, spent 464 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: the week in the basement. According to the dog sitter, Yeah, 465 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: they hate it. They were like, we're just going to 466 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: hang out down here. Yeah, Buddy's got a new aunt. 467 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: I mean, eighty was reach. I don't know that happened 468 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: too because she was with him when we were in Illinois. 469 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: Amy's like, I'm like, why don't you ask eighty if 470 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: she'll like walk walk him and stuff and eight he's 471 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: like absolutely, So eighty puts him in the car. They're 472 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: going to the park. He's going in rivers like he's 473 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: living his best life. 474 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said. She was like, I'm taking buddy on 475 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: a hike. Ye, Like, do we know that buddy can hike? 476 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 477 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: She goes, He's going to be just fine. 478 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, he can cruise. 479 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 4: Now. 480 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: He loved it. He was really excited about it. I 481 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: was very proud of him. We had a big moment 482 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 2: yesterday at the house where we had this situation. And 483 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: those who listen regularly know that I'm not crazy about 484 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: birds at all, and certainly those would be my worst 485 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: The turkey would be my worst bird. I don't like 486 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: them at all. So I was curious. I mean, he's 487 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: a retriever. I'm like, how's he going to interact with 488 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: these How's he going to be? And so I told 489 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: the boys, I'm like, get him, go get him, Let's 490 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: see what he does. So he came up and like 491 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: I gotta give him credit, he animal instincts was pretty good. 492 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: Like he snuck up on him, Like he didn't bark, 493 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: he snuck up got really close to probably within I 494 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: don't know, fifteen or twenty feet. And then I'm like, 495 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: I don't need bird murder on my conscience, and I 496 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: don't need. 497 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: They could use a little bit of They could use 498 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: a little bit of. 499 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I was like, I don't want to clean 500 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: this thing up. If he gets one of them, now, 501 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: he's bred to bring it to me without killing it, 502 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: that's the objective, without eating it. That's the deal. I 503 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: just think I could trust him. So when I called 504 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: him off, then he barked like crazy and then they scattered. 505 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: But I was proud of him. Did a good job. 506 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: That's his job. That's what he's got to do. He's 507 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: got to do these. 508 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Did you you had no sports then this weekend? 509 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: No, this was it? You know you were saying like 510 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: this was last week. It was like this was my 511 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: one free weekend, Like this was it? It was it 512 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: was July. I was off the third through yesterday, and 513 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: that that was it. That was the one time where 514 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: it was free and clear, and that was in the mix. 515 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: I watched Beverly Hills cop X l F. I did 516 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: watch that. 517 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: Good. 518 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 2: It's a good hang perfect, It's it's fine, it's fine, 519 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: it's a nostalgia full. I mean, the original one meant 520 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: so much to me as a kid. It was certainly 521 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: one of the if there were six to ten movies 522 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: that I watched a bunch, it was one of them. 523 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: For sure. It's a fun hang but it was it's 524 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: not but it's it's fine. 525 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 3: But you're you're you're watching it to relive. That's it 526 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: the first one. Yeah, and if there is, if there 527 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: are enough parts, yeah, then you're good. 528 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Murphy doesn't have his fastball anymore, for sure, Like 529 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: he's not he he did not have what what is it? 530 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: Is it the repia that that that rhythm he had 531 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: when he just hit joke after joke, Like, he doesn't 532 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: have that fastball anymore. But there's enough moments where you're. 533 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: His daughter's in it, isn't she? I think she's one 534 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: of the cops. 535 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: Is that really his daughter? It's his daughter in real life? Yeah, 536 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: daughter in real life plays his daughter in the movie. 537 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: I think so, No, not one more time. Your MIC's 538 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 2: not up, brock. Sorry, there you go. 539 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 6: His daughter in real life was one of the cops 540 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 6: that arrested him. 541 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: And then and the when they. 542 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, car, that was his real daughter. Oh that's great. Oh, 543 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: that's great. That was very good. So, yeah, it was fun, 544 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: it was a fun walk. It was good. It's it's 545 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: not it's not as groundbreaking as the original, but it's 546 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: sure it's worth a watch if you want to want 547 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: to relive a little bit. So those are hot topics 548 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: of today. They're presented by the University Hospitals. We're loaded up. 549 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: Give you got a lot in here, we got the sports, 550 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: get you a ton around the sports role. Honestly, there's 551 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: not much NFL. It has been quiet all summer and 552 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: that has that has continued. Uh. We We've just that 553 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: Burrow made a little bit of stuff today. We'll get 554 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: into that and and but there's not much NFL wise 555 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: big picture on the program, Jacques Say, Zeer and Z. 556 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: There's that interview to look forward to. Also Bjorke haz Back, 557 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: So we have an interview with Zee and Bjorkez as well. 558 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: We're often running on a Monday, Cleveland Browns Daily at 559 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN. 560 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bet 561 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: Now live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 562 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Well, kids, I don't know if you know or if 563 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: you've heard, but Billy Joel and Rod's Steward are together 564 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: for the first time ever. It is Friday, September thirteenth. 565 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: It's a Cleveland brown Stadium. You can buy those tickets 566 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 2: right now. He visit Cleveland Browns Stadium dot com slash 567 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: Billy and Rod twenty twenty four for more information to 568 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: claim your tickets. Don't miss Billy, Joel and Rod Stewart 569 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: together one night only. I think this Borough stuff is 570 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: kind of the most interesting. There's even more of it today. 571 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: I see you have it down here learning a piano 572 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: to help his wrist rehab. He's he's been out there 573 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: quite a bit, so he was at Fashion Week. He 574 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: had some comments this morning as well that that I'm 575 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: starting to see make the rounds a little bit. There's 576 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: a lot of Burrow chatter and about he's I think 577 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: what he's trying to do is he he needs a 578 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: healthy season, and I think that's kind of where it is. 579 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: I think he's kind of feeling a little bit of 580 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: the pressure of of what it's going to be. And 581 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: I saw ben Axrod of Awful announcing tweet this this morning. 582 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: He's something the effect of I'm not I'm not ready 583 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: for my Joe Burrow cares more about being a celebrity 584 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: than a quarterback. Take yet, but it's in reserve. So 585 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: this I'm not sure you're. 586 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: On, buddy. 587 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: Oh there we go. 588 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Sorry, yep, you're good. 589 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: I'm looking. I haven't seen anything from him today. 590 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some comments. There was some comments he was 591 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: making about you know, people are doubting me. I'm gonna 592 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: give him reason not to and all of these things. 593 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 2: So he's he must have done an interview with somebody. 594 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 3: You played four years in the NFL. Yeah, and now 595 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: two of them you didn't play. 596 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 2: Oh he did, pardon my take, So that's what it is. 597 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: He did, pardon my take. So among he talked about 598 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: all sorts of things with those guys. The fact that 599 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: the NFL goes to eighteen there should be two bye 600 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: weeks suggests the one of the buys should be around 601 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: week thirteen for the entire NFL, with Pro Bowl festivities 602 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: that week, similar to the NBA believes it boost ratings 603 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: for the struggling Pro Bowl. I don't think anybody worth 604 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: assault would play a player who cares in that thing. No, 605 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: you just can't. In football, it's a collision support, so 606 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: he did pardon my take. 607 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: So that's where a lot of this stuff is coming. 608 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I agree there should be. You're going to 609 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: need two bye weeks, Yeah, make it and have it go. 610 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: Like super Bowl is the Sunday before President's Day, so 611 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: you get the next day off. Everybody's got the next 612 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: day off. Totally understand. Agreed. 613 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: People forget when you're hurt. I'll give them something to 614 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: talk about. So it's all from this pardon my take 615 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: interview that he did. You don't play football, people forget 616 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: about you. If you're not out there, people aren't watching you, 617 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: there's nothing to talk about. I'm gonna give something. I'm 618 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: gonna give people something to talk about this year. So yeah, 619 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: so here's the interesting part. And Josen clearly he's a 620 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: nice guy. He does a lot in the community. Oh 621 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: he doesn't. The one that he doesn't do is anything 622 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: for his football team. From a media standpoint, he doesn't 623 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: do much availability period, but definitely nothing for like in house. 624 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: So it was interesting. I think I brought this up 625 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: to you guys after the combine like that their content 626 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: and production team has never had a one on one 627 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow, even after he was the number one 628 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: pick in the draft. That's just absolutely We've never had 629 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: an interview with him. 630 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just impossible for that not to happen. Yeah, 631 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: for there not to be how No, I don't know. 632 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: I don't understand how that happens or what it is. 633 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it doesn't make any sense. 634 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's yeah, and yeah, so he's doing all of that. 635 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: It's all from the party, might take stuff, getting some 636 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 2: stuff on social On the fireworks, Larry really cracked down 637 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: on fireworks this year, issuing citations even at dedicated officers 638 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: for firework enforcement. So they're not screwing around there. Yeah, 639 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: all right, all right. Here's Andrew's advice on Chicago. He says, 640 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: this upcoming weekend, take the two ninety four instead of 641 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 2: I ninety which runs through the city. Two ninety four 642 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 2: will kick you out to the burbs and should make 643 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: for a quicker trip. Nineties under construction a nightmare, right now, 644 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: safe travels. I did this. Everybody had this idea. Everybody 645 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: went to ninety four, Darren with this. We spent the 646 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: weekend in Chicago. Can confirmed eighty through Indiana was definitely easier. 647 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: Paying As we went instead of the easy pass lane chaos. 648 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: I do not think the random pay stations are for 649 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: the bridges. I don't know what the random pay stations are, 650 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: but they suck. I don't know either they suck, they're 651 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: just randomly or there. 652 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 3: It's nuts. 653 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: So anyway, Burro's making a little bit of noise. Former 654 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Browns and forty nine or Safety to Sean Gibson has 655 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: been suspended six games by the NFL for violating the 656 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: LEADS performance Enhancing Substance Policy. He is currently a free agent. 657 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: What would that be? Is that a steroids thing? I'm 658 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: assuming I even know what they still test for on 659 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: that side of things. 660 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's clearly something. 661 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly is. 662 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: And it's not going to help you sign with the 663 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: football team anytime soon. 664 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: No, no, no, it is not. So I found this. 665 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: It's so funny. I found I saw you have this 666 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: fourteen years ago today with Lebron. I found this on 667 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: one of my hey remember whins and it was I 668 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: think it was on Facebook and it was a post 669 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: that I had. Let's see where is it? All right? 670 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: So this is the first tweet Join me, Bobby Carpenter 671 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: D Miller from her Buckeye players. We used to do 672 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: a show called The Average Joe Sports Show on the 673 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: Ohio News Network, which is basically like Best dam for Ohio, 674 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: which is basically from Chris's model, and we just applied 675 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: it to Ohio. We basically copied it. So then I write, 676 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: by the way he's staying there's no way you got 677 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: your hometown on national television would be the cruelest exit 678 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: for an athlete in history. That's what I said, he's 679 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: staying sorry. Then later that night, I wrote the single 680 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: biggest gut punch in the history of sports. He'll never 681 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: recover from a pr standpoint. He just admitted that he's 682 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: not good enough to win on his own. Obviously, I'm bitter. 683 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: You ain't Kobe's Sun, you ain't even MJ, you ain't Bird. 684 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: You sure ain't magic, and you never will be. That's 685 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: how harsh I went at Lebrona that night. Hot takes 686 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: Baby coming hard, Hot day. He's been fine, he's worked, 687 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: it's all worked out for him. But I did think 688 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: it was interesting juxtaposed to what he's done with Brownie. 689 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: For all of his accomplishments, he has probably been surrounded 690 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: by people who enable him most right, and if you 691 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: aren't willing to be a part of that, then you 692 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: fall out of favor the way Miami did and the 693 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: way it did here and and so forth. But this 694 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: Lakers operation has just given him the keys to the kingdom. 695 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: Like he does whatever he wants. And you would have 696 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: thought that he would have learned from what happened when 697 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: he left here and the pr mess it was for 698 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: two years trying to take his way out of it 699 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: and to the point where it affected him mentally. In 700 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: those finals against Dallas when he wouldn't even post up 701 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: JJ Berea for crying out loud, they had JJ Berea 702 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: guarding Lebron James. 703 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: In the finals, Lebron peak peak. 704 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: It was crazy. Now the next year he was the 705 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: best player on the planet and they won two titles 706 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: in a way you go, and he was unbelievablehen he 707 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: was here the second time. But this whole thing that 708 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: he did with broni to for the Lakers to draft 709 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: him when nobody else would have to give him a 710 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: guaranteed deal, which is a one way deal so that 711 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: he will not play in the G League, and pay 712 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: them eight million dollars for a position that's a five 713 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars position, that position in the draft, all 714 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: of it guaranteed. It's a really blind take, and I 715 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: think he's going to make it so much harder on 716 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: that kid than it ever otherwise would have been. Yes, 717 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: he's enriched the kid. The kid's got an eight million 718 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: dollar contract, but he didn't need money anyway, so correct, 719 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: So why why make it this way where you are 720 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: enabling the ease for him to play in the league, 721 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: And I know the pushback will it will be, Well, 722 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: there's nepotism and ownership, there's nepotism in front offices and 723 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 2: so forth. Okay, fine, there is. I can't argue it. 724 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: But I don't see the upside for him with the 725 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: kid playing in LA in these circumstances that are only 726 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: there because of who his dad is. 727 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: Well, in the draft happened that Wednesday night, Yeah, our 728 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: last last night, so night one, he goes undrafted. Yeah, 729 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: and at that point, everybody's like, well, he's definitely going 730 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: to the Lakers, Like something's been put out there, something 731 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: is yeah, whether it's Brownie's not going to play for 732 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: anybody but the Lakers, whatever the case might be. Of course, 733 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: he gets drafted by the Lakers. Yeah, well, and every 734 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: sports network rejoices because now there's actually something to talk 735 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: about for the next two or three weeks. Yeah, this 736 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: kid goes out, and I'm still a firm believer he 737 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: should have gone to like he should have gone to 738 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: Was it De Paul where Lebron's former running cane du 739 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: Cane Ducine? 740 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, his. 741 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: Former point guard is the head coach there. 742 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah Drew Joyce. Yeah, Drew Joyce the second. Yeah he's 743 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: the coach. 744 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: Just go there and play like it'd be your Secondn't agree? 745 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: And he needs developed Yeah, dude, you like I I 746 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: tuned in for his performance in the Rookie League. Yeah, 747 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: I wanted to see it. It was not anything impressive. No, 748 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: there was nothing. And I'm like eighty or ninety percent 749 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: of the players that are playing right now in this 750 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 3: game aren't even going to be on a roster. Oh no, 751 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: g league get best. Yeah, and you've got you got 752 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 3: four points on two of nine. 753 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah he's not. He averaged five a game at USC. 754 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: It's just it's just not what it is. So it 755 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: just to me, it's gonna make it harder on the kid. Yes, 756 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: in terms of his development unless they just like saying, yeah, 757 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: he's a Laker. Maybe that's it. Maybe he just wants 758 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: to be a Laker. But like in the meantime, I'm like, 759 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: their franchise is going nowhere. 760 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 3: And well, the more that comes out that this potential 761 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: coach turned him down, this perspective coach turned about. I mean, yeah, 762 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: they had to go back to Redick. They didn't have 763 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: a choice. No, And I don't know if JJ can 764 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: do it or not. 765 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: I think that's a it doesn't matter because I'm into 766 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 2: the prob yes, and I'm to the point with NBA coaches, 767 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: like what does it really matter? Like Atkinson, who the 768 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: Cavs got, I don't know, I don't know what what 769 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: does that mean? I hope, I hope, But like what 770 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: it's a different next Mitchell resigned since we did a 771 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: show as well, I believe, yeah that three hundred and 772 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: fifty million two years hold their feet to the fire, and. 773 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, good movie by him. 774 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: I would assume that they would be trading Garland in 775 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: the next month, right, because those two seem so redundant. 776 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: You know, like, what what's the market? Though? There are 777 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: so many guys like him that are taller. 778 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's actually I think his 779 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 2: development has been retarded by having to play with Mitchell 780 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: because they're redundant, they're they're kind of the same guy. 781 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: Mitchell's a better version of him. He's a more explosive 782 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 2: version of him. He's more offensive minded for getting his own. 783 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: Garland's probably a little bit more of a distributor. But 784 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: you can't have two short guards, correct, So like there's 785 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: no way for him to grow. I actually thought he 786 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: was a better player two years ago than he was 787 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 2: this last year because they play it so similarly. You 788 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: got to resign Mitchell, but now you've got to make 789 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: sure that whatever you do with this Garland thing, it's 790 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: got a hit. 791 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 3: Well, what are you doing with the big man situation there? 792 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 793 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 3: What are you doing with mobiley? What are you doing 794 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 3: with Allen who clearly doesn't want to be here? 795 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 796 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is? 797 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. And there's this it's just there's there's 798 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 2: this pressure of like go chasing a championship that's such 799 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: a such a difficult needle to thread, to get through that, 800 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: to think all the things that need to happen, Think 801 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: how long it took Boston, and they tried to abort 802 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: that thing many times with trades of brown and somehow 803 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: they stuck with it and eventually won it. But it 804 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: takes that type of stick to itness for it to 805 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 2: actually paid dividends at some point. I remember doing were 806 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: You Where were you? Fourteen years ago when he did it. 807 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 3: So I was. I was at ESPN Cleveland. I was 808 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 3: the program director. 809 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: So you guys were on air. 810 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: We were on air NonStop. Yeah, Like we didn't, I 811 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 3: don't think we because the courting had started July one. 812 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, people came, all of them came in here. 813 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 3: Everybody had to meet at UH building. Yeah, we snuck 814 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 3: a reporter into the IMG building with the help of someone. 815 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how many people actually know this or not, 816 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: but we got a pass security. He was in a 817 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 3: bathroom and he put a sign on the door that 818 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 3: said out of order. Oh my god, hung out in 819 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: the bathroom to see what we could pick up. 820 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 821 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding when I tell you, Like, the heat 822 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: had a conversation and our guy was in the bathroom 823 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 3: the whole time. 824 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: That's an incredible job. 825 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: We we we did that. 826 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 2: I don't know if any of it's legal, no long past. 827 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: Didn't care. Got to get the story, gotta get the scoop. 828 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it was like motor cads 829 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: like the Noes and the Knicks came into town and 830 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 3: you know, they would come out through the side entrance 831 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 3: and uh, the day of it was it was crazy. 832 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody had a good feeling like and. 833 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: You guys felt like he was leaving just the I. 834 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: Think it was just hope that he was going to stay, 835 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 3: but not a feeling that he was going to Like, 836 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: the feeling was more he was going to leave. 837 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: Did you have an I feel and what was the 838 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: feeling up here at that because I was in Columbus 839 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: at that time, and what was the feeling up here 840 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: of if he left, where would he go? Because it 841 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: felt like Miami kind of came out of nowhere. 842 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami came. Miami came out of nowhere. 843 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: Chicago was in I remember there were some Nets. There 844 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: was some nets, Nicks, it was those four right, and 845 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 2: then the Calves. 846 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 3: Because it wasn't it wasn't the Lakers. 847 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 2: It was not Kobe at that time, so they wouldn't 848 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: have been. 849 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a little bit about the heat because 850 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: Wade had gotten Bosh to come and it was like 851 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 3: there's a chair empty and it was like, oh, what's 852 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: going on there? Yeah, Lebron had his Shooting Stars AU 853 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 3: tournament going on at the Wolfstein. 854 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: I remember this. 855 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 3: I snuck into the Wolfstein. It was luckily I was 856 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 3: doing Cleveland State at the time. Yeah, it was easy, 857 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: got in through the shipping dock. Lebron was there. I 858 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 3: want to say, Tom Withers was there. Tom is I 859 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: think the last one that actually talked to him before 860 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: he went right to the airport. 861 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: He was the last guy. 862 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 3: He walked by us right to the car and said, 863 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: we'll see you guys tonight. 864 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: They had no idea how. They were so naive on 865 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: how it would beat, how it would go here, and 866 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: the idea that if they went to Connecticut Boys and 867 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: Girls Club that somehow that would make it make it okay. 868 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 3: We had Dave den Itally, I believe was our man 869 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,479 Speaker 3: on the street. He's at Harry Buffalo right across from 870 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 3: Rocket Mortgage. For the reaction. Who is the comedian that 871 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 3: used to be married to Drew Barrymore Tom Tom Green? 872 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 3: Tom Green is in town. Tom Green's hanging out with 873 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 3: Dino for the reaction. Tom Green's the first man on 874 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: the street. It was like I talked to Tom Green 875 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: like I'm like Tom, Like Tom Green, He's like he's here. 876 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: He was like at the he was like, I gotta 877 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 3: see what's going on here? Oh my god, Tom Green. 878 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 3: Tom Green was on I remember, I remember Brenda was 879 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 3: on the air. Like it was just we had five 880 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 3: guys on the air all night. We went all night 881 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 3: into the next day. We had over I want to say, 882 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: five hundred interview requests in twenty four hours for our talent. 883 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 3: I was throwing anybody in it and go anywhere. You 884 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 3: gotta do this, you do this, you have this. I 885 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 3: remember remember Brenda taking a lebron bobblehead and smashing it 886 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 3: with a hammer on this on the set. 887 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: You know when it hit home for me. I was 888 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: up here that weekend and my wife was at Channel 889 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 2: eight at the time and she was doing the reporting 890 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: on when they took down the we Are Witness thing. Yeah, 891 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: and I remember like her reporting and then seeing that 892 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: thing come down and just being like emotional, like my god, 893 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: what just happened. Like we had this this ride with him, 894 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: which was just from the time he's a kid, all 895 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: the way through, like he'd sat Missus, Saint Mary, all 896 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: of it all the way through, and you were just like, 897 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: he's going to be your guy forever. And you get 898 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: this gift of like relevancy that you hadn't previously seen. 899 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: And he was so lovable, like the Muppet stuff with Kobe, 900 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: with the Nike ads, all of it, yep, and then 901 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 2: all and we're all witnessed like all of that stuff, 902 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it was gone, and it 903 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, now what And it was 904 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: the reality is that if he doesn't leave, they don't 905 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 2: win a championship because they're in cap hell. Their roster 906 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: was brutal. He had to leave. Even then, they were 907 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: able to draft Kyrie get Wiggins be in a position 908 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 2: to they did the Baron Davis thing where they got 909 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 2: the pick for that yep. So that allowed for them 910 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 2: to have a roster that was attractive for him to 911 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 2: come back to. But if he never left, I don't 912 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: think they ever win one because there just was never 913 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: gonna be. We threw a lot of guys out there, 914 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 2: Oh my god, they Antoine Jamison, like you just kept 915 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 2: trying to land guy. 916 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you watch something today, the two thousand and seven 917 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 3: the two thousand and seven Cavs starting lineups for Game three. 918 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 3: It just popped up on my feet. It was like 919 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,439 Speaker 3: your shooting guard with Sasha. 920 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: Pavlovitch, Right, yeah, you're playing Duncan. Yeah yeah, no. 921 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: He Yelle marshall right, it was. It was not idea. No, 922 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: Wally World was on the roster for a while. Eric Snow, Yeah, 923 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 3: Booby Gibson was probably the second best player on. 924 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: Your team in that postseason for sure. No, it was wild, 925 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: and I think it's like, if he doesn't it's one 926 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 2: of those things where'll you'll never feel quite the same 927 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: about him after he left. He came back and he 928 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: did it, But like if he didn't leave, I don't 929 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 2: know that you ever win it, truly. I don't see 930 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 2: a path. 931 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 3: I think it's also as crazy as that was, the 932 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: more insane part was when he came back for the 933 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 3: first time. 934 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: I was at that game. 935 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: The amount of security, Like, I did not feel safe 936 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 3: in that building that night. I said that I wasn't 937 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 3: sure if someone was going to do something or not. 938 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: I did a live shot I was at CBS and Columbus, 939 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 2: I was here for the game and the news I 940 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 2: did like the hit or whatever, and I did the highlight, 941 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: and then the news anchor came back to me and 942 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 2: he asked me, how would you describe the environment, And 943 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 2: I said, imagine if there was a gladiator in an 944 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 2: arena full of lions and everyone was rooting for the lions. 945 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: That's what it was like. Like they wanted it felt 946 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: like people wanted harm done to him. It was so 947 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: much anger and vitriol. And I do remember though, like 948 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 2: halfway through the first quarter, like the heat were up 949 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: huge early in that game, as you recall, and it 950 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: it was almost like, oh, so you can trot out 951 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: Joe Hayden and Bernie and Drew Carey and all those people. 952 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: And Dan left his seat. Remember that he left, and 953 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: you just thought, yeah, but they got him and they're 954 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: gonna win by one hundred and and that's it. And well, 955 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: if ever, if ever, you're right. Yeah. And then I 956 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 2: also and I remember that went the first game he 957 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: was back here, the first regular season game, and you 958 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 2: hear from Saint Vincent, Saint Mary High School and all 959 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: that again, you're like, all brings it all back. It's 960 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: crazy and to think that he's still in the mix. 961 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: He's play in the Olympics this summer, like this guy's 962 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 2: been in our life for two decades. Prominently, it's wild, 963 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: absolutely wild, that side of it. A couple other notes, 964 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 2: we'll save those for a little bit later, uh in 965 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: the program coming up next Z with Corey Bjorkez. 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And 978 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 2: now we head back into the audio vault conversation with 979 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: Z and returning punter Corey Bjorkez after he signed his 980 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 2: contract to stay here with the Browns. 981 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 6: Goin by a returning member of your Cleveland Browns punter 982 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 6: Corey Bejorquez Cork, congrats man, welcome. 983 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 4: Back, Thank you. It's good to be bick I bet. 984 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 6: So, how did this kind of process go for you, you know, 985 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 6: becoming a free agent coming off of you know, back 986 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 6: to back excellent seasons here you had your second highest 987 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 6: yards per punt of your career forty nine point four, 988 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 6: second highest net yards forty two point two, thirty one 989 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 6: kicks inside the twenty you guess it, second most of 990 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 6: your career. So it was a great year. What was 991 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 6: this process like? Did you know when you wanted to 992 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 6: come back? And then how did it all come together? 993 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 994 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 5: You know, obviously we knew we wanted to stay here, 995 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 5: you know, a great place to be, a great team 996 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 5: to be a part of. Yeah, So it was just 997 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 5: you know, weight game, really, you know, they had to 998 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 5: get some other stuff done, get some other guys back, 999 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 5: and once that was done, then we were able to 1000 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 5: kind of start talking, figure something out, and here. 1001 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 6: We are and you mentioned this all happened while you 1002 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 6: were in Europe? Yeah, okay, so let's start there. Tell 1003 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 6: me about the trip. 1004 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 2: It was awesome. 1005 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 4: You know. 1006 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 5: We took two weeks to go out. There was our 1007 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 5: first time going out. 1008 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 6: Where do you guys go? 1009 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 5: We went to Paris first, and then we went down 1010 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 5: to Nice for a couple of days. Wow, and then 1011 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 5: over to Rome and then Florence. So Florence was amazing. 1012 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 5: Florence is pretty amazing. Yeah, good food. It's probably hard 1013 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 5: to come back from that. 1014 00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 4: It'll be interesting. 1015 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 6: What was your favorite other places? 1016 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 4: You want? Uh? 1017 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 5: For the scenery and the food was nice. Really, the 1018 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 5: culture and the history and everything was definitely Rome. 1019 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, which I mean pretty impressive. 1020 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 4: All see you in the Vatican? Yeah, it was. It 1021 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 4: was pretty sweet. 1022 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 6: That's cool. 1023 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 4: And did you go? 1024 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 6: It was the whole fam Yeah, all three of us, 1025 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 6: all three of you. 1026 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 4: How'd she do? 1027 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 5: So we did the red eye flight to Paris thinking, oh, 1028 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 5: surely she'll sleep the whole time. No she didn't, No, 1029 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 5: she didn't. So it was a little rough on all 1030 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 5: of us. We landed like one thirty am, you know, 1031 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 5: Cleveland time, and it was it was pretty rough. But 1032 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 5: once we got in, you know, we just slept for 1033 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 5: a little while, went around, saw the Eiffel Tower, and 1034 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 5: from there on the rest of the trip was pretty smooth. 1035 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 6: That's awesome. And then now your wife and your daughter 1036 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 6: here with you today for you to sign your contract 1037 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 6: come back to the Cleveland Browns. What does it mean 1038 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 6: to kind of have your family here with you? That's 1039 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 6: got to be pretty neat. Oh, it's awesome, you know. 1040 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 6: I mean, they're they're my rock. You know, they will 1041 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 6: keep me going, you know, and stuff guitar hard. So 1042 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 6: to have them here with me means a lot. All 1043 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 6: right's shack about coming back. Bubba's back, Yep, your back, 1044 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 6: the hops back, Charlie's back. To have that continuity has 1045 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 6: probably got to be nice. And would this be one 1046 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 6: maybe since Buffalo would be the only time you could 1047 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,280 Speaker 6: have have you had kind of that continuity like this before. 1048 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 5: Uh no, I mean college, you know again, Jason, you 1049 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 5: know had two years together, but even then my first 1050 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 5: year in New mex So I didn't hold for him. 1051 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 5: So you know, this has really been the first time 1052 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 5: that we get Wow, all three of us going together again. 1053 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 4: So it's gonna be good. 1054 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 6: How pumped or the boys? 1055 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 4: Oh, they're loving it, loving it. 1056 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's great. That's great. So you had a nice 1057 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 6: trip in the off season coming back. What was it 1058 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 6: like if you reflect back kind of on your first 1059 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 6: year with with Bubba Ventron. 1060 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 4: Oh, it was awesome. 1061 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 5: I mean he's a tough dude, but I love it. 1062 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 5: You know, he makes you work as hard as you 1063 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 5: can and you know, brings out the best in you. 1064 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to see what we got next. 1065 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 6: What did you think of him in the locker room 1066 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 6: the night the we beat the Jets clinched the playoffs 1067 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 6: and he's in there for the post game speech in 1068 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 6: a helmet that kind of sums Bubba is Have you 1069 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 6: ever seen that before? 1070 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 4: No? No, And I hope I see it again next year. 1071 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 6: The same same as you kind of reflect back on 1072 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 6: last season, you know, you had the best seat in 1073 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 6: the house for a lot of things you were involved 1074 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 6: and obviously a lot of big plays as well. What 1075 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 6: do you kind of take away from what was in 1076 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 6: many ways a very magical season, but one that was 1077 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 6: fraught with so much to overcome. 1078 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 5: You know, it's it was a lot, you know, with 1079 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 5: how much injury and stuff we had to still win 1080 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 5: eleven games and go to the playoffs, and really, I 1081 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 5: mean up until the end, we're in it for the 1082 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 5: number one seed. I mean, that's just unreal. So it 1083 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 5: makes me excited to see, you know, keep everyone healthy. 1084 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 5: You know how far we could go with that? 1085 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 6: All right, so you boom the ball. We all know 1086 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 6: that you can flip the field position. Five straight seasons 1087 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 6: you've had a punt of at least seventy two yards. 1088 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 6: That's crazy. You go back to twenty twenty is seventy two. 1089 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 6: That was the longest in the league. That year twenty 1090 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 6: twenty one, eighty two, last year seventy six, this year 1091 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 6: seventy three. How does this keep happening? Are you just 1092 00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 6: you just killing it? 1093 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 4: Even a blindt you know, squirrel. 1094 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 6: Fighting, No, No, five years in a row takes that 1095 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 6: out of the equation. That's not it's not it's not 1096 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 6: a chance anymore at that point. 1097 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 4: You know what, I don't know. 1098 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 5: I just ball hits your foot in the right spot, 1099 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 5: and you know how the wind gets here, and sure 1100 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 5: it's like a plane. You get it up into the 1101 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 5: jet stream and thing just go. So letting go and 1102 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 5: let it go, all right? 1103 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 6: In the off season given and we go back to 1104 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 6: Houston the first time. Yeah, have we spent some time 1105 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 6: on on kickoffs and extra points and field goals and 1106 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 6: in the event that you're gonna you might have to 1107 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 6: be called upon. 1108 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think we let you know, d Bell 1109 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 5: take that again and let him get some more tackles. 1110 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 4: I think that's all. 1111 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 6: Right, which was actually turned out funny and that was 1112 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 6: ended up being Obviously, it was very sad to see 1113 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 6: de Hop go down. You got banged up in that 1114 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 6: game as well, But to see Chief lobbying, to see 1115 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 6: d Bell going and trying to kick into the net 1116 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 6: was that kind of surreal watching all of a sudden, 1117 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 6: It's like, what are we doing? 1118 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 5: It was like, this seems like a high school thing, 1119 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 5: right now? 1120 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 1121 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 4: Like it was? 1122 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 5: It was pretty funny, but you know, hey, the more 1123 00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 5: you can do. 1124 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, the more you can Exactly what does it mean 1125 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 6: to be back with these fans because I know that 1126 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 6: this is such a good football town. They even they 1127 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 6: love the punter, They appreciate everybody on the fifty three 1128 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 6: right that contributes to our success. Is what's it mean 1129 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 6: to be back here in Cleveland? 1130 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 4: It means everything. 1131 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 5: I mean, that was one thing we were considering, you know, 1132 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 5: in free agencies, where are you gonna live? And you know, 1133 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 5: we've found a good spot here, great neighborhood, you know, 1134 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 5: and yeah, we just love the community and you know 1135 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: that was a big factor in us really wanting to 1136 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 5: stay here. 1137 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 6: Just want the sun a little more, right. 1138 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 5: Hey, I'm not going to complain about the sun. That 1139 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 5: was a little spoiled growing up in California. So same, same, same, 1140 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 5: That's right. We're paying our time now. 1141 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1142 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 6: Well, anyway, it's so great to have you back. It's 1143 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 6: great that you get to have that continue. You get 1144 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 6: to share this today as your little daughters scurrying around 1145 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 6: after the football outside of our studio right now. It's awesome, man. 1146 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 6: So congrats it and welcome back. 1147 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1148 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff. There was Zee and Corey. Coming 1149 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 2: up next, we'll take a look at some various running 1150 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 2: back liz ESPN and PFF ranking the top running back 1151 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 2: rooms in the National Football League will tell you where 1152 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 2: they have us graded out. Coming up next to Cleveland 1153 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 2: Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1154 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bet Now 1155 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1156 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 2: All right, Welcome back in Cleveland. Browns Daily eight fifty 1157 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland, brought to you by bally Bet Sports running 1158 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: part of your Cleveland Browns now live in Ohio on 1159 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 2: a fifty ESPN Cleveland. Some running back list PFFS. Thomas 1160 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 2: Valentine ranked the top thirty two projected starting running backs 1161 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 2: ahead of the twenty twenty four season. Jeremy Fowler ranked 1162 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 2: his top ten running backs heading into the season. 1163 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 3: So this is the Fouler Annual. Scouts, fun office, coaches, players, 1164 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 3: they rank, they rank everything, and I thought it would 1165 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 3: be fun if we on a daily basis here leading 1166 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 3: up can paired the two lists from Pro Football Fan. 1167 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 2: I have the Fowler list, Do I have the Do 1168 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 2: you have the pff I have the pff list, all right, 1169 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,439 Speaker 2: So the one has got to be universally number one 1170 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 2: with McCaffrey. McCaffrey, right, it's got to be. 1171 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 4: He's it. 1172 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: He got married over the break. 1173 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. It looked like a hell of a good time. 1174 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 2: Like everybody had a fun time. Yeah, which is what 1175 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 2: you should have. 1176 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 3: And then someone was a Dawson Knox that got married 1177 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 3: for the Bills, Josh Allen looked like big old fat 1178 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 3: party going on with those guys. 1179 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 2: That's what you should do. That's what a wedding should be. Yeah, 1180 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 2: it's exactly that. 1181 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 3: That's the only news coming out of the National Football 1182 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 3: League right now for those of you that wants to talk. 1183 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: That's This is a great quote from an NFL off. 1184 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 2: Some of these quotes from Jeremy's piece on Christian. He 1185 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 2: does everything exceptionally. Explosiveness, vision, technique, versatility, great teammate, hardiest worker, 1186 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 2: dedicated to the offseason. The only thing holding him back 1187 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 2: was when he was hurt. But he's exactly what you 1188 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 2: would draw up a football player to be. San Francisco 1189 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: made one of the best trades of the decade when 1190 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 2: they got him. He's perfect for what they do. 1191 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 3: What did they step up for him? 1192 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 2: Bucket of balls? Wasn't it? 1193 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 3: Stand by here? 1194 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 2: I'll get it for you. 1195 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 3: What is so? 1196 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 2: PFF has him number one. 1197 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 3: PFF has him number one, head and shoulders above everybody. 1198 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 3: The ultimate workhorse. At three hundred and thirty nine touches 1199 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 3: from scrimmage led the league. Despite the lofty workload, his 1200 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 3: efficiency was excellent, the average five yards per carry and 1201 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 3: cast sixty seven passes for five hundred and sixty four yards. 1202 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: So it was a twenty twenty three, second, third, and 1203 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 2: fourth in the twenty twenty four to fifth was the 1204 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 2: Now that what they did is they used the third 1205 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 2: and fourth round picks were sent to Pittsburgh, so that 1206 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 2: I guess Carolina must have done that, but that that 1207 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 2: was the deal they gave up. They got the second, third, 1208 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 2: and fourth round picks from the Niners and a twenty 1209 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 2: twenty four to fifth, So they've already given gotten back 1210 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 2: everything that they're going to get from the McCaffrey trade. 1211 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 2: But to be fair to them, he was hurt a lot, yeah, 1212 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, and it was It's also a situation where 1213 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 2: we were not valuing running backs the way that we 1214 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: did in a previous era. So I think that's part 1215 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 2: of it too, Like it's easy to crush him now 1216 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: because he's in this perfect situation, but I don't know, 1217 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 2: I think if you go back in that time, it 1218 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 2: still seemed lopsided, but he'd been hurt a lot well. 1219 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 3: And we're devaluing the value of running backs. 1220 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, both the running back. 1221 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 3: Positions, So to get four draft picks probably seemed like 1222 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 3: a lot at the time. 1223 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeremy Fowler number two with Bryce Hall. 1224 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 3: PFF's number two Derrick Henry. I think surprised on both fronts. 1225 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to be honest, like it's possible that 1226 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: we have that Derrick Henry was properly rated for the 1227 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 2: longest time and then maybe at one point became a 1228 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: little over and now potentially is a little under rated. 1229 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 2: That he still very, very capable, But I'm surprised he's 1230 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: too on PFF's list. 1231 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,800 Speaker 3: PFF has brace Hall number seven. Okay, on their list 1232 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. It says like Barkley Henry will be playing 1233 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 3: his trade on a new team for the first time 1234 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 3: in his NFL career. 1235 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 2: They get Henry nine. Yeah, the scouts have Henry nine. 1236 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 3: Age and lack of production in the passing game hold 1237 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 3: Henry back, but he's staved off father time longer than 1238 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 3: most running backs can only dream of. The Henry Lamar 1239 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 3: Jackson pairing at twenty twenty four should keep defenses awake 1240 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 3: at night. I don't know if it does. Just Lamar 1241 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 3: by himself keeps you awake at night. I don't think 1242 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry keeps you awake at night. 1243 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 2: I just how much Tread's left. He's just been ridden 1244 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 2: so hard for so long, it's hard to imagine what's left. 1245 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 2: Brace Hall, I you know this was this. He's kind 1246 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 2: of one of those examples of this is why you 1247 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: don't pay running backs. You don't take him in the 1248 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 2: first round. It's because you stumble into somebody. He was 1249 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 2: explosive before tearing his ACL and his rookie year. He 1250 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: was great again last season, three hundred and fifty seven 1251 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 2: yards and three touchdowns over week sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen. 1252 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 2: They like him a lot, A legit dual threat, a 1253 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 2: glider with high level change of direction and vision, homer 1254 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 2: and hitter with a ball in his hands, can grind volume, 1255 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: create explosiveness at any moment. 1256 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 3: Only as good as how Aaron Rodgers plays in twenty 1257 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 3: twenty four. 1258 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 2: That's it. Let's just throw that out. Well, that's them. Yeah, 1259 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot of that though. There's a lot of 1260 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 2: that in the league, a lot of quarterbacks coming back 1261 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 2: from catastrophic injury, including our own, and speaking of our own, 1262 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb number three on this list. 1263 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 3: I mean that's saying something in National league circles. 1264 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 2: It's saying a lot considering I mean, he would have 1265 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 2: been number two had he been healthy. It would have 1266 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 2: been McCaffrey than him. Sure is probably the way that 1267 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 2: it would have been, and Foller even writes this one's complicated. 1268 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 2: Chubb has been the game's best pure rusher when healthy, 1269 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 2: but his future shrouded uncertainty because of severe knee injury 1270 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 2: suffered last season that required multiple surgeries. Here's one from 1271 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 2: an executive. He would be number one for me if healthy, 1272 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 2: even though I'm not sure how he's going to look. 1273 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 2: He deserves to be high, another AFC executive, even if 1274 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 2: he's laughing, lacking some explosiveness in the short term, but 1275 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 2: still has the instincts and good feet. Hopefully that shines 1276 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 2: through and he gets his power back. He's such a 1277 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 2: good player. I think Nick Chubb is like one of 1278 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 2: the overall highest approval rated players in all of football. Yes, 1279 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 2: everybody loves him. 1280 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he averaged five point three yards per 1281 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 3: rush since entering the league in twenty eighteen, the third 1282 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 3: highest mark by a running back in the Super Bowl 1283 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 3: era with a minimum of five hundred carries, behind Bo 1284 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 3: Jackson and Jamal Charles. Pretty good, and PFF has him 1285 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 3: number four. Okay, So even despite the injury they have yep, 1286 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 3: four exactly on that list, all right, saquon number four 1287 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 3: for the evaluators. PFF has him number six. 1288 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 2: I could be a sleeper pickup for Philly. He's still young. 1289 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 2: I know he's had he's had some injury stuff. One 1290 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 2: veteran AFC scout saying he's going to be a beast. 1291 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 2: The weapons around him on the outside, dual threat, quarterback, 1292 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 2: shotgun runs, his versatility, it's a perfect fit. Like they 1293 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 2: even compared to the career reset McCaffrey had with San Francisco. 1294 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean he's got to stay healthy. 1295 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. 1296 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 3: I don't with him. I almost need to see it. 1297 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean he's got it. 1298 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 2: It's cut. You know, you got to stay healthy a 1299 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 2: little bit. Which gets me to number five on this list, 1300 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: which is this is on the ESPN list with the executives. 1301 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 2: It's Jonathan Taylor coming in at number five, and the 1302 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 2: same thing for him, like he's just got his if 1303 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 2: he stays healthy. Look out. He just has been banged 1304 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 2: up a little bit. 1305 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 3: And PFF has him at number three. 1306 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So he won the rushing title in twenty twenty 1307 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 2: one year three plummeted due to a in part to 1308 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,439 Speaker 2: the Colts offense. They brought him back just four hundred 1309 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 2: and eighty seven yards six touchdowns over his four or 1310 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 2: five games. Remember, he sat out. 1311 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 3: Correct, but he was willing to sit out a long 1312 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 3: time AFC scout. 1313 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Still explosive. Last year he was beat up. The Colts 1314 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 2: eased him into things. He's probably the best combination of 1315 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 2: side and straight line speed there is right now in 1316 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 2: the league. 1317 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 3: It will be as good as his quarterback as well. Yeah, 1318 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 3: I mean that's the problem with saque or not. That's 1319 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 3: why I think Saquon and a big reason why Saquon 1320 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 3: left and went to Philly. Yeah, Daniel Jones, can he 1321 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 3: helped or you know an all Pro quarterback. 1322 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 2: This next guy on the ESPN list is one that 1323 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 2: I think is going to have a monster year. That's 1324 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 2: Bjon Robinson with Atlanta. He's just twenty two. His numbers 1325 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 2: were not crazy last year, but they had no quarterback play, 1326 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 2: and this year he's going to have elite quarterback play. 1327 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 2: To me, I think if I had to pick one 1328 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 2: guy on this list who's going to explode, I think 1329 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 2: it would be him. 1330 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 3: I would agree. In the top in the top six 1331 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 3: and Bjeon's number five at PFF. 1332 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 2: So they pretty well aligned. 1333 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good on that. Yeah, I agree. And now 1334 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 3: you might actually have a coordinator that wants to give 1335 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 3: him the ball. What a novel concept. 1336 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah. Number last year's rounding out the top 1337 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,919 Speaker 2: ten from Fowler's list, Josh Jacobs comes in at number seven. 1338 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 2: I forgot that he switched. He's with the Green Bay 1339 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: after playing in Oakland and then Las Vegas four years 1340 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 2: forty eight was the deal he got. 1341 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 3: There, and he comes in at number ten on. 1342 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Ten, on that one. Jamior Gibbs is eight on the 1343 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 2: ESPN list. He comes in number eight just twenty two. 1344 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 3: Interesting stat from PFF who have him at number nine. 1345 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 3: Only Henry McCaffrey total more rushes of fifteen plus yards 1346 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 3: than Gibbs in twenty twenty three. 1347 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. Five point four yards per carry out 1348 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 2: of the shotgun formations was the best among running backs. 1349 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Also led the league when rushing to the right side 1350 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 2: at six point three. He was a rookie last year 1351 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 2: out of Alabama and one of those instances where like 1352 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 2: he wasn't even like the lead bellcow at Alabama and then. 1353 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 3: Correct who who was in Philly? Did they go to Chicago? Swift? Swift? Yeah, 1354 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 3: because Swift was went Detroit, Philly and now back into 1355 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 3: the NFC. Norris on Chicago. I mean you want to 1356 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 3: talk about b John Robinson. I mean Gibbs could be 1357 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 3: that guy. He's oh yeah, lying to be a top 1358 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 3: five back for the year is over. 1359 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he even split split time with Montgomery last year. Yeah, yeah, 1360 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 2: he did so Gibbs. Actually, I didn't realize this. He 1361 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 2: started his career at Georgia Tech. He wasn't even first 1362 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 2: team All SEC. He was the second team All SEC 1363 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 2: running back on those teams with with Alabama when. 1364 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 3: He was there. 1365 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: So, but he's he's a very solid when they have 1366 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 2: Henry nine on the ESPN list, yep, he's a warrior, 1367 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 2: one NFL coach said, just keeps himself in such physical 1368 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 2: condition with off season workouts. It don't seem slowing down 1369 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 2: over the next two years. He's a volume back, great size, 1370 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 2: breaks tackles, as deceptive speed. No one's really catch him 1371 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 2: if he gets going. I don't think he's lost a step. 1372 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 2: Let's hope that's not true. I don't need that, No, no, 1373 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want that again. I just don't. 1374 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 3: It will be fascinating to see how that offense works 1375 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 3: with him and. 1376 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 2: Lamar well, and he's used to playing out of the iback, yeah, 1377 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 2: you know, or single back with a quarterback under center, 1378 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 2: and one of the NFC scouts is quoted saying it's 1379 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 2: definitely gonna be interesting. They'll probably go with a little 1380 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 2: more pistol, which is like being under center so he 1381 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 2: can get downhill. 1382 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if that helps Lamar. 1383 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. It's if he's It's 1384 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 2: a lot to deal with in the run game though, 1385 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 2: that that much is for sure, with both those guys 1386 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 2: in the mix. And then finally, number ten is Travis 1387 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 2: Ettien in Jacksonville on this. 1388 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 3: List, and he's number eleven on PFFS. 1389 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 2: And we miss on PFFS. And in the top ten 1390 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 2: that is not Jacobs was Ten Gibbs. Aaron Jones. Yeah, 1391 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 2: he's an honorable mention. He went from Green Bay to Minnesota. 1392 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 2: Also honorable mentions Kenneth Walker, Isaiah Pacheco, James Cook, Alvin Kamara, 1393 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 2: among those, Joe Mixon, DeAndre Swift. 1394 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's Walker, Raheem Moster, Tony Pollard who gets a 1395 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 3: second chance with Tennessee Pa check O, Kyron Williams of 1396 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 3: the Rams. 1397 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 2: He was good man. 1398 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pretty good player if he. 1399 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 2: Could, if he could keep it going that there's you've 1400 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 2: got an opportunity there a little bit to say the least. 1401 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 2: But no, it's interesting how what I'm curious about is, 1402 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 2: and I was curious about this with McCaffrey, is how 1403 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 2: do you does the league get to a point where 1404 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,919 Speaker 2: they find new ways to reinvent that position and look 1405 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 2: for a different skill set and gives us an example 1406 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 2: of that. Barkley's an example of that. McCaffrey's an example 1407 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 2: of that. Where you have guys Eckler did that. You 1408 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 2: have guys who can run downhill but can also catch 1409 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 2: forty fifty passes, and that'll be kind of the key 1410 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 2: to what that position looked like in the future. 1411 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 3: You know, that's funny you mentioned Eller. I don't see 1412 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 3: him anywhere. 1413 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Banged up, right, Wasn't that the deal last year? He 1414 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 2: was pretty banged up. 1415 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 3: The CFF has him because so PFF did top thirty two. 1416 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 3: They have him at twenty nine. 1417 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't even remember who he played for he signed 1418 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 2: with Washington. Yeah, wow, that's pretty wild. Yeah, I mean, 1419 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 2: so it comes up in seventeen with the Chargers, he's 1420 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 2: been there, he was there a minute. 1421 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1422 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 2: Last year though, just six hundred and twenty eight yards 1423 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 2: four thirty six receiving on fifty one catches. The year 1424 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 2: before was his monster year. He had nine hundred and 1425 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 2: fifteen yards rushing and seven to twenty two receiving, So 1426 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 2: he was kind of that dual weapon, dual threat weapon 1427 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 2: that the Chargers had. 1428 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 3: So I didn't realize this. He's never had one thousand 1429 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 3: yards rushing in a season. 1430 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 2: No, I'm just looking at that too. He hasn't. Nine 1431 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 2: point fifteen was the high he actually had hit. His 1432 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 2: career high in receiving yards was nine to ninety three. 1433 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 2: He actually had was closer to a thousand yards receiving 1434 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 2: than he was rushing at any point. So yeah, there 1435 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 2: you go. That's it's gonna be a fascet some of 1436 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 2: those guys like this is the it's fun to you 1437 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,919 Speaker 2: because you still do fantasy and those guys all go first. Sure, 1438 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 2: it's still all those running backs that go first. 1439 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 3: Did you try to figure out I mean, if you're 1440 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 3: in a twelve team league. Yeah the third Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1441 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 2: You're rolling the dice with h with backups. Jackses Are 1442 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 2: is going to join us in a little bit here 1443 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 2: on the program. Any pretty wild promotion around here locally. 1444 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 2: We'll get to this story as well. You listen to 1445 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Belly Bat sportspinning 1446 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 2: part near Cleveland Brown's now live in Ohio on eight 1447 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN. 1448 01:07:46,760 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Rounds Daily brought to you by Bally Bed 1449 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1450 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 2: Cleveland kitch your Cleveland brown single game tickets right now 1451 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 2: for all the great matchups at Cleveland brown stadiums. The 1452 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns dot Com slash tickets are called four four 1453 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 2: zero eight nine one fifty to fifty to purchase yours today. 1454 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,759 Speaker 2: The Lake County Captains High a affiliate of your Cleveland Guardians. 1455 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 2: By the way, hell of the first half. 1456 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 3: Not too shabby, kids, not too shabby. Just when you 1457 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 3: think they're they're having a little swoon, it's like there's 1458 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty two games. Yeah, you could have 1459 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 3: a week long swoon and still be doing just fine. 1460 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 2: No, it's been an unbelievable summer for them, and it's 1461 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 2: kind of been kind of it's they're just so consistently 1462 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 2: good all the time and just trying to win that 1463 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 2: the ultimate prize. But they knock on the door as 1464 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 2: consistently as any franchise in Ohio over the last fifteen years. 1465 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 4: So anyway, their. 1466 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,480 Speaker 2: High affiliate is located in East Lake and they've unveiled 1467 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 2: rot Ruter Toilet Row. The tickets are sixteen bucks. There 1468 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 2: are eight toilet seats located behind home plate. Reading material 1469 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 2: and game games are included behind the toilet seat. Fans 1470 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,440 Speaker 2: will also receive personalized attention from a captain's bathroom attendant 1471 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 2: who will provide mouthwash, combs, and gum. Well, is the 1472 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 2: expectation you're going to use it can't be? 1473 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 3: Can't be? 1474 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 2: But is it? 1475 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1476 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 2: I kind of looks like it's a it's that you 1477 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 2: could use it. 1478 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 3: Is it comfortable? Is the question? 1479 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 4: Like? 1480 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 3: How comfortable is the toilet a padded seat? It's a 1481 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 3: long time to sit. 1482 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 2: It's a long time to sit. It's got to be 1483 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 2: a padded seat. I assume it's got to be like 1484 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 2: air cooled. You don't want to be hot. 1485 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. 1486 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 2: Look they won. We just talked about them. Yeah, they won, 1487 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 2: so it wins. It absolutely went. I mean provide mouthwashed 1488 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 2: combs and gum. I know one other bathroom that does that. 1489 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 2: That's same. So there's a very specific type of bathroom 1490 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 2: that has right type of setup in it. What is 1491 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 2: the wackiest promotion that you recall being a part of 1492 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 2: or some of the wackier promotions you recall being a. 1493 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 3: Part I did a lot of dumb stuff. I put 1494 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 3: together a lot of things. I mean I would I 1495 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 3: would soaked t shirts and water, yeah, and then freeze them. 1496 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 3: And then you had to have a contest like the 1497 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 3: next day who could get the shirt apart and get 1498 01:10:54,200 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 3: it on? I mean yeah, and someone like broke Like 1499 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 3: it was like a staircase at this bar and there 1500 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 3: was like a little knob on the top literally broken off. 1501 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 3: They were trying to get the shirt. Undone I had people, Ah, 1502 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 3: I had a baby swimming pool. I did a promotion 1503 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 3: with a local beer hair in town, Sinko de Mayo. Yeah, 1504 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 3: it was sincoed to Mayo, and I filled the whole 1505 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 3: pool with mayo. And then there were like prizes that 1506 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 3: were like uh, you know, I I what would you do? 1507 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 3: I can't remember off the top of my head, like Laminate, 1508 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 3: they were Laminated and they were in but you had 1509 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 3: to like dig in the baby pool through Mayo for prizes. Yeah, 1510 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 3: I did. I came up. I would do lots of 1511 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 3: things like that. I did the Ultimate NBA or no, 1512 01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 3: the Ultimate, the Dunk King of Cleveland. Yeah, at on 1513 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 3: the east Side at a location and someone tried to 1514 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 3: jump my little beater of a car and stepped right 1515 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 3: on the hood and oh dan it, They're like, I 1516 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 3: can jump it. I'm like you sure. 1517 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 2: I don't think you can? 1518 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,600 Speaker 3: You sure? I know. It's like the Green Mile, and 1519 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 3: I never know if it's gonna make it because it 1520 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 3: was on its last legs right in the middle. 1521 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:18,680 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 1522 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:20,680 Speaker 3: Yes, there was. 1523 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 2: I mean that was a that was a integral part 1524 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 2: of local radio. Yes, for a long time. Is the 1525 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,679 Speaker 2: biggest stunt promotion things that you could come up with. 1526 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 2: I've I mean, here, we don't do those things. You know, 1527 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 2: we'll do stuff obviously for the team. And then even 1528 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 2: in Columbus, I don't I don't recall ever being roped 1529 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 2: into anything that was on the edge, like there haven't 1530 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,639 Speaker 2: been many. A lot of appearances, a lot of golf stuff, 1531 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 2: but I've never been in any sort of any sort 1532 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,680 Speaker 2: of promotion that I thought, well, this might not be 1533 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 2: the best. 1534 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 3: I'd think we always had when I worked at Q 1535 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 3: one four my mentor and the great CHRISTI uh who 1536 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 3: is the promotion director there, And she's fantastic. I mean 1537 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 3: it was all about the artist experiences like we we 1538 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 3: We did bowling with bar naked ladies, like at the 1539 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:17,560 Speaker 3: Sight of Naked Ladies, like popularity. We did a personal 1540 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 3: behind the scenes tour the Rock Hall with Hoody and 1541 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 3: the Blowfish like it was. Yeah, it was. She came 1542 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 3: up with a lot of that stuff and kind of 1543 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 3: gave me some great ideas for future things when I 1544 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 3: when I went out on my own from a promotions 1545 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 3: and marketing standpoint, and. 1546 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I. 1547 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 3: Mean we yeah, we did a lot of There were 1548 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 3: some big ones. There were some duds I did. We 1549 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 3: did the Winking of Cleveland at ESPN. I literally had 1550 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 3: to have two e mts with like paddles on site. 1551 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,760 Speaker 3: Someone choked like there was no reversal of fortune. You 1552 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,759 Speaker 3: could get disqualified. It couldn't even be like in your mouth. 1553 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, it was. It was pretty crazy. 1554 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,799 Speaker 2: Did you watch Nathan's the Hot Dog Contest? 1555 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 3: I didn't. 1556 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 2: I didn't either, I didn't. 1557 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 3: I don't even know who won. 1558 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 2: I can't tell you what. This guy got fifty eight, 1559 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 2: that the guy who won got fifty eight, and then 1560 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 2: there was a woman who said a world record she 1561 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 2: had fifty one. So I don't know what that is. 1562 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 2: I think like Chestnut could probably do sixty in half 1563 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:19,599 Speaker 2: the time. 1564 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know. 1565 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that their ratings went one way or 1566 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 2: another based on Chestnut being involved in it or not. 1567 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Did see this over the weekend as well? John Anderson 1568 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 2: announced his retirement from ESPN. Is he more famous for 1569 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 2: Wipeout or Sports Center? I don't recall Wipeoux? So he 1570 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,640 Speaker 2: host Wipeout? Yeah, he hosts that one. Okay? Is that 1571 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 2: the one with Rob Wriggle. I think so it was 1572 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 2: John Anderson and John Henson, John Henson and John Anderson, But. 1573 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 3: Then I think Wriggle became part of it. 1574 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 2: Wriggle does it with Joe t Joe Tess. Yeah, they 1575 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 2: do a different show. Holy Moly, that's Holy Molly golf 1576 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 2: golf show. Okay, Yeah, there you go, go on the 1577 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 2: gold He's got it locked in. Johnny Anderson was pretty 1578 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 2: damn good like that. 1579 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 3: He was. 1580 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 2: He got in right at the end of the golden 1581 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 2: era of sports center. 1582 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 3: Yep. 1583 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,719 Speaker 2: And that was about it, like late nineties, early two thousands. 1584 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 2: It started to trend off because we just had other 1585 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 2: ways of getting our information. But when he started there, 1586 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,720 Speaker 2: it still had, you know, all it checked all of 1587 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 2: those boxes, certainly on that side of things. 1588 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 3: Hey, I did put this in. 1589 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 4: Yep. 1590 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 3: Little four star linebacker twenty twenty five. Yeah, threes, he's 1591 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 3: killing it. He's got three. 1592 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,759 Speaker 2: Ohio State hasn't recruited a leade at the linebacker position 1593 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,639 Speaker 2: in probably ten years, and he's got he's got three 1594 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 2: four stars. The kid that he landed over the weekend 1595 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 2: is by most considered the number one linebacker prospect in 1596 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 2: the country, kid out of Texas. This is in simplest terms. 1597 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:53,200 Speaker 2: When Michigan won the national championship Ohio State, it triggered 1598 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 2: Ohio State's reaction. So Ohio State has spent more than 1599 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 2: they've ever spent. They've recruited in a way that they've 1600 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 2: they've recruited this way under urban but like they're recruiting 1601 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,719 Speaker 2: the number one class in the country type stuff they're spending. 1602 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 2: And then they have the perfect combination with him and 1603 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 2: then heartline, where you have guys who made a great 1604 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 2: living in the NFL, who love living in central Ohio, 1605 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 2: who don't really have an interest in climbing a ladder, 1606 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,640 Speaker 2: And like, James isn't going to leave to be the 1607 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator at Wisconsin for sure, you know, Like he's 1608 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,640 Speaker 2: going to raise his family in Columbus, so there's stability. 1609 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 3: He left once, he's not leaving a second time. 1610 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 2: No, And Brian's not leaving. Brian's got a great pad 1611 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,640 Speaker 2: north of the city. Like he's not gonna He's not 1612 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 2: going to go be the offensive coordinator at Texas A 1613 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 2: and M Like it's just that's not in the cards. 1614 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,680 Speaker 2: So like they have these two guys who played there, 1615 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 2: who have the cred, who played in the league and 1616 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 2: got paid and were good, and now they're selling the program. 1617 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,880 Speaker 2: So the only thing that was stopping James from doing 1618 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 2: this more raillery is up until February, he wasn't or March, 1619 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 2: he wasn't even a full time linebacker coach. He was 1620 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 2: a grat assistant. Sure, So that was the only thing 1621 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 2: that happened. But now in this world where there's pro 1622 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 2: the four programs who are spending the three programs who 1623 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,600 Speaker 2: are spending the most right now in NIL are Oregon, Texas, A, 1624 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 2: and m And Miami is still spending a ton. USC 1625 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 2: is pretty aggressive too, but Ohio State right now doesn't. 1626 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,600 Speaker 2: From what I understand, they don't have to spend the 1627 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 2: most on recruits. They just have to be in the vicinity. 1628 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 2: It's funny, I asked him. I did the show with 1629 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 2: him last Tuesday. He came back and did my morning 1630 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 2: show with me, and we were talking and I said about, 1631 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, like about all of these stuff and about 1632 01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 2: recruiting and all of it and what they have. He said, 1633 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 2: the one thing that they have done is there is 1634 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 2: such a there is such a rep with player development 1635 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 2: that they have right now, a large part because of Heartline. 1636 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,960 Speaker 2: But CJ didn't hurt, Dewan Jones didn't hurt you know, Denzel, Like, 1637 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 2: if you draft a Buck Eye, they're ready to go 1638 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 2: in the league and he goes, so we don't have 1639 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 2: to outpay for a recruit. We just got to be close. 1640 01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 2: But another thing they said. I asked him. I said, 1641 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a second, like, how do you know 1642 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 2: that this kid was offered this by filling the blank? 1643 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 2: And he's like, well, I don't. There's no way of 1644 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 2: verifying it. We're taking them at their words. So there's 1645 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 2: no way to verify with these kids are being offered. 1646 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 2: Kid comes up to you and says, hey, Texas A 1647 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 2: and M offered me five hundred thousand. You can't call 1648 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 2: Texas A and M and say, hey, what did you 1649 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,719 Speaker 2: offer him? So you're just taking him at his. 1650 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 3: Word if you say it confidently. 1651 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 2: That's a big part. That's what it is. 1652 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 4: Man. 1653 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,160 Speaker 2: It's absolutely wild. Wow where that sport is and there's 1654 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 2: no end insight and there's no I mean, it's it's 1655 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,600 Speaker 2: going to be a behemoth. It's going to continue to be. 1656 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 2: But until there is contracts and collectively bargained, this is 1657 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 2: what you're going to get. 1658 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:42,599 Speaker 6: Yep. 1659 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,360 Speaker 3: So that's that's the way that one good job by threes. 1660 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,639 Speaker 2: Yeah he did, he had. He did a very good job, 1661 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 2: all right. Coming up next, Jacques Caesaire, defensive line coach. 1662 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 3: One on one was Z. 1663 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to Clear the Bronz Daily on a fifty ESPN. 1664 01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:07,719 Speaker 1: Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Ballely bet 1665 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,520 Speaker 1: Now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1666 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in Cleveland, brons Dale. We're brought 1667 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 2: to you by Ballely Betts, sports winning partner of your 1668 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1669 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,560 Speaker 2: Here is an exclusive CBD one on one. Here is 1670 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 2: Z with new defensive line coach Jacques Czer. 1671 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,720 Speaker 6: Very happy now to be joined by Brown's defensive line 1672 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 6: coach Jacques size Air and Jacques Man. 1673 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 4: I'm good. 1674 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:35,679 Speaker 6: How are you doing? 1675 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 7: Fantastic? Thank you for having me. It just has been 1676 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,719 Speaker 7: a great off season Phase two, Phase three Mini camp. 1677 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 7: You know, all the guys here, It's just been great 1678 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 7: to have the guys just in the building working together. 1679 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 4: You know, I've enjoyed it. 1680 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 6: Is there something about being an ex player, because when 1681 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,559 Speaker 6: you talk to a lot of ex players, they say 1682 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 6: the think they miss the most is about being around 1683 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 6: the guys. And when you coach, heck, you used to 1684 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,759 Speaker 6: get to still be around the guys and have with it, right. 1685 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, being a former player, 1686 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 7: I think the only advantage that you get as a 1687 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 7: coach is that you're you're in their shoes. You've done 1688 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 7: some of the things that they've done, you know, so 1689 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 7: you can kind of answer some of those questions for them, 1690 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,040 Speaker 7: trying to take away some of those worries, you know, 1691 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 7: some of those things that they're thinking of that's going 1692 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 7: to slow them down. 1693 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,639 Speaker 4: And so it's my job. 1694 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 7: To be able to you know, organize their rush plan, 1695 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 7: organize how they how they attack the run, you know, 1696 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,000 Speaker 7: and just show them exactly what they're going to get 1697 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 7: every single play so they eliminate any doubt in their head. 1698 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,160 Speaker 4: So that that's my job. 1699 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 6: I'll tell you've done a good job of doing that 1700 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,679 Speaker 6: because I was interviewing Zadarius Smith and he's like coach 1701 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 6: knows everything. He's like he can tell before every play, 1702 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 6: knows exactly what's gonna happen. So you've already impressed a 1703 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,360 Speaker 6: ten year vet with your knowledge. 1704 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1705 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 7: No, I mean it's just you know, for for for 1706 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 7: me coming in here, Okay, you know, I'm not gonna 1707 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,880 Speaker 7: sit here and tell old war stories and the Chargers 1708 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 7: and things like that. That's not gonna help them. Yeah, Okay, 1709 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 7: what's going to help them is the precision of their footwork, 1710 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 7: where their hands are going, how violently and how quick 1711 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 7: their hands strike another person, how they run their feet, 1712 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 7: what they're looking at when they're trying to rush, what 1713 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 7: their rush plan is gonna be. Everybody's different. You know, 1714 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna ask that there is to do something. 1715 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,880 Speaker 7: I mean, Sayaki to do what Zadarius is doing. You know, 1716 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna ask Mike Hall to do what Miles does. 1717 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 7: You know, those guys are individuals. They're great in their 1718 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 7: own right. So it's my job. It's to make sure 1719 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,519 Speaker 7: that they have the proper rush plan. They know exactly 1720 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,599 Speaker 7: what to do against the run, and when the pressure 1721 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,599 Speaker 7: is on, they can go and hunt the quarterback. 1722 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,799 Speaker 6: What's it like when you come into a new situation 1723 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,599 Speaker 6: You're at Houston, I say, you knew Obo, you had 1724 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 6: a familiar face in the room. But when you come 1725 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 6: into a new situation and say, okay, look this is 1726 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 6: who I am, this is what I'm about. What's that 1727 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 6: kind of like where it's kind of like probably when 1728 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 6: you're coming to a new team, right, come in the 1729 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,600 Speaker 6: locker room for the first time, So how has that 1730 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 6: kind of transition been for you? 1731 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 7: So that actually is the easiest part because, believe it 1732 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 7: or not, every single D line out there, every single 1733 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 7: one has the same players, every single one. You got 1734 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,000 Speaker 7: the superstar, you got the smart guy, you got the 1735 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 7: guy that's the teacher's pat you got the guy that 1736 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 7: he might be, you know he'd be a little negative, 1737 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 7: but he still plays hard. You know, you got the 1738 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,720 Speaker 7: role player, you got the DPR. Every single defensive line 1739 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,799 Speaker 7: I've ever been a part of all the same players, 1740 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 7: including the ones I played on. You know, so being 1741 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,880 Speaker 7: around these guys is like being around the guys that 1742 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 7: I was with in San Diego. There is no difference. 1743 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 7: You know, they all have the same type of personality. 1744 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 7: You know, you just learn how to treat each individual different. 1745 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 4: That's all. 1746 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,799 Speaker 6: When you think about coming into a room and continuity, 1747 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 6: especially in D line rooms, you know this, it doesn't 1748 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,600 Speaker 6: happen very often. The top five, maybe even you can 1749 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 6: say six defensive ends from last year are all back. 1750 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 6: So when you come in to a room where they 1751 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 6: all know each other, they know how to play off 1752 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,439 Speaker 6: of each other. How helpful is that for you as 1753 01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 6: a coach? Knowing that you are you don't have to 1754 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 6: kind of reinvent the wheel with some of these guys. 1755 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's great that first of all, the 1756 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 7: continuity of just the defense, you know, the terminology. They've 1757 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 7: already spent a year with Schwartz, so now they know 1758 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 7: the defense. Now it's really breaking down the defense as 1759 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 7: much as we can, understanding the scheme, understanding what we're 1760 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 7: going up against, and then just kind of meshing it 1761 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,759 Speaker 7: all together, you know, and just having all those guys. 1762 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 7: You know, I tell them all the time, I don't 1763 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 7: know everything, but together we know everything, you know. So 1764 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,360 Speaker 7: I lean heavy on those guys. They lean heavy on me, 1765 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 7: all right. I don't work for them, I work with them, 1766 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 7: and I keep it in that frame right there. Hey, 1767 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 7: we're all in this thing together. It's a long season, man, 1768 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 7: it's a long season. And in order to get what 1769 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 7: we want to get, all right, we all got to 1770 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 7: come together as one. First, four equals one. I'm always 1771 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 7: telling four equals one. Okay, Yeah, we got four individual 1772 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 7: guys out of here, but together we're strong. So those 1773 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 7: guys that bought into that already, they're really starting to 1774 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,439 Speaker 7: buy into the techniques, the drills, the things. In my 1775 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,960 Speaker 7: coaching style. Everybody's different, you know. I'm very demanding, you know, 1776 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 7: obviously I'm a little crazy. 1777 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 6: Sounds like you're fitting very well with Jim Schwartz on 1778 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 6: that side of the ball, right. 1779 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 7: Well, I just want them to understand, like, hey, we 1780 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,760 Speaker 7: have the talent in that room, the first of all 1781 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,640 Speaker 7: the people and the character, then the talent in that 1782 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,599 Speaker 7: room to go to do some special things this year. 1783 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 7: And so that's what I'm excited about. There's no egos 1784 01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,960 Speaker 7: in that room as well as they did last year. 1785 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 7: They understand that they can prove okay, and that's the 1786 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,840 Speaker 7: first thing. And then the second thing is everybody leaves 1787 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,200 Speaker 7: an ego at the door. You know, We're all in 1788 01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 7: this thing together, you know. So I'm really excited about 1789 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 7: it with the opportunity to work with all those guys, 1790 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:12,760 Speaker 7: and then I can't wait. 1791 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,719 Speaker 6: Is it nice to have a mix of like vets 1792 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 6: and guys who are completely established who have been around 1793 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,679 Speaker 6: for a long time, like a guy like in Indie's 1794 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,760 Speaker 6: the tackle room, like a Shelby Harris, Guys who've been 1795 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 6: around Dalvin, they've been around on the edges. We already 1796 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 6: know those guys, but is it nice to have that 1797 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 6: kind of veteran presence in your room and then also 1798 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,320 Speaker 6: be able to help out the young guys Mike Call 1799 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,439 Speaker 6: who just gets drafted, Eca going into a second year, 1800 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:31,680 Speaker 6: bus brigs who got drafted this. 1801 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 7: Year, Absolutely, and and and you know guys like Dalvin 1802 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 7: shall Be, you know, Mo Hers, you know Quentin Jefferson 1803 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 7: who I've worked with in the past. All those guys 1804 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 7: already leaning in and pouring into those young guys you 1805 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 7: know like Juwan and and Mike Hall and just making 1806 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,760 Speaker 7: sure like you know, we know, everybody's not gonna make 1807 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 7: this suah, we know that. Okay, all right, but that 1808 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,920 Speaker 7: doesn't mean we all can't make the NFL. Working together 1809 01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,160 Speaker 7: right now, we're all trying to be the best right now, 1810 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 7: we're all trying to help each other out. 1811 01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:57,960 Speaker 4: Right. 1812 01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,200 Speaker 7: Iron sharpens iron, and at the end of the day, 1813 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,519 Speaker 7: when the when the dust settles right, we'll we'll we'll 1814 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 7: pick our guys. But my job is to make sure 1815 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,640 Speaker 7: that every single guy in that room is on an 1816 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:07,640 Speaker 7: NFL roster mix it. 1817 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,760 Speaker 6: I love that talking with Browns defensive line coach Jackson's there, Coach, 1818 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,640 Speaker 6: have you ever had a guy who could rush the 1819 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 6: passer and then also have a nice crossover, you know, 1820 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,559 Speaker 6: pre snap like you saw with Miles on tape, Lester, 1821 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 6: have you seen some of those things across over the 1822 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 6: Tennessee game where he's going over there following and then 1823 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 6: two guys are following him back. 1824 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 7: You know, I've honestly, I've never worked with a guy 1825 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 7: like Myles. You know, he's an extraordinary talent. He's a 1826 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,040 Speaker 7: generational talent, and uh, it's a it's a privilege and 1827 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 7: honor to be able to work with him and to 1828 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,519 Speaker 7: be able to help him, you know, and uh, you don't. 1829 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,320 Speaker 7: I don't think people realize just how explosive. Well, first 1830 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 7: of all, how big he is, and then how explosive 1831 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 7: he is. You know, he's explosive, extremely explosive. 1832 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 6: He saw his field goal block last year, right, he. 1833 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 7: Can, he can, he can, He's explosive, he can bend, 1834 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,640 Speaker 7: he can rush. He's strong, he's powerful. And then the 1835 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,160 Speaker 7: best thing about him too, he's a leader man, He's 1836 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,720 Speaker 7: a leader. He's humble, He comes to work every day, 1837 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 7: he takes diligent notes. So just having like your best 1838 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,679 Speaker 7: player on the team, best player in the position room, 1839 01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 7: be that type of player that he's always. 1840 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,519 Speaker 4: Trying to improve, that it makes my job a lot easier. 1841 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 6: You got to follow that guy see what he's doing. 1842 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:20,080 Speaker 2: Do some of that. 1843 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 6: We'll get you out here because I know you got 1844 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,559 Speaker 6: to get on a plane. These OTAs and these mini 1845 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 6: camps in reality, to the outside observe, they seem like 1846 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,960 Speaker 6: kind of glorified passing camps, and so you can't put 1847 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,680 Speaker 6: your pads on right and do the things that the 1848 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 6: defensive line wants to do. So when you knowing that 1849 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 6: those are the parameters with what you have to deal with, 1850 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,000 Speaker 6: what are you trying to get out of a mini 1851 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 6: camp practice or an OTA practice in your room? Because 1852 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 6: it's a lot of work. Honestly, off to the side 1853 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 6: with the guys. 1854 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,680 Speaker 7: Precision, I want, precision, want work, Yeah, I want I 1855 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,680 Speaker 7: want precision and detail. Okay, there's details in everything that 1856 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 7: we do. We're not just slamming our bodies into people 1857 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,439 Speaker 7: and wrestling a big old alignment. There's a step to 1858 01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 7: everything that we have to do. A hand placement, there's 1859 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 7: a corner in, there's an eye progression. There's all these 1860 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 7: things that make us who we are. So I always 1861 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,920 Speaker 7: preach I need precision, I need detail, and I need 1862 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,160 Speaker 7: it fast and I need to fold. 1863 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,480 Speaker 4: You do that, you're gonna be good. 1864 01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 6: You're gonna be on the field for Jaxi's there, all right. 1865 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,600 Speaker 6: Last one, what's something you want Browns fans to know 1866 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,640 Speaker 6: about you? You're new here to Cleveland. What's something you 1867 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 6: want when they, you know, hear Jaxi's air, defensive line 1868 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,599 Speaker 6: coach Cleland Brown's what something you want them to think 1869 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 6: about you? 1870 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 4: Okay? 1871 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,879 Speaker 7: First of all, you know, don't think about me. Okay, Okay. 1872 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 7: First of all, it's about the guys. It's always about 1873 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 7: the guys. I'm always gonna preach and promote my guys first, right, 1874 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,880 Speaker 7: So it's about them first. 1875 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:34,639 Speaker 4: Okay. 1876 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 7: Second thing, Okay, Cleveland fans, I need dogs barking. Okay, 1877 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 7: I need dogs barking. The reason why we was barking 1878 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,639 Speaker 7: in the first place because we was getting sacks. Okay, 1879 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,160 Speaker 7: So you want these guys to get sacks. I need 1880 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 7: you barking. I need you to be loud, I need 1881 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,960 Speaker 7: you to be crazy. I need these guys to fill 1882 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,000 Speaker 7: your preme goal game every practice that they're at, every 1883 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,719 Speaker 7: game that they're at, I need them barking as loud, 1884 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 7: as mean, and be as mange as they can, all right, 1885 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 7: because those guys beat off that thing, Okay, And I'm 1886 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,800 Speaker 7: telling them the same thing. You want the fans to cheer, 1887 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 7: You want the fans to get behind you. You want 1888 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,760 Speaker 7: the fans to uplift you. Okay, give them. 1889 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 4: Something to cheer about, give. 1890 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 7: Them something to cheer about, and and and and they 1891 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 7: feel that, you know, and then they want to live 1892 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,200 Speaker 7: up to that. You know, we talk about being the best. Okay, 1893 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 7: be the best that you can be. Okay, we won't 1894 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,800 Speaker 7: want to be the best in the NFL. I want 1895 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 7: to be the best version of Miles. I want to 1896 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,040 Speaker 7: be the best version of Mo. I want to be 1897 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:30,040 Speaker 7: the best version of Dalvin Zadarius, Obo Shelby, you know, Lannie. 1898 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 7: I want to be the best Isaam Maguire, Alex Wright, 1899 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:39,840 Speaker 7: you know, Mike called Juwan Briggs, myself, my freaking assistant, Jordan. 1900 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 7: I want to be the best version of ourselves. The 1901 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,880 Speaker 7: best version of ourselves will win games. And so we 1902 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,719 Speaker 7: preach that every day as much as we can morning 1903 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 7: in the afternoon. And you know, they, you know, they 1904 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,719 Speaker 7: already know I'm a little annoying. My life is this, Okay, 1905 01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,519 Speaker 7: this's all okay. My kids live in San Diego, Okay, 1906 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 7: and so so this is my life right now, and 1907 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:00,759 Speaker 7: this is the only thing I can care about. Obsess 1908 01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,519 Speaker 7: over these guys, obsessed over their production. I obsess over 1909 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,679 Speaker 7: every little step everything they do. And so I'm always 1910 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,719 Speaker 7: texing those guys and sending them videos and just talking 1911 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,920 Speaker 7: them through things, because at the end of the day, 1912 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 7: all right, my job is to organize chaos. 1913 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 4: And I love that. 1914 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,240 Speaker 6: Job, and we love that you have that job, Coach. 1915 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,240 Speaker 6: Thanks for the time, have a great flight, great meeting you. 1916 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 2: I mean that guy, You're ready to run through a 1917 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,479 Speaker 2: wall for that guy. He's locked in, boy is he? 1918 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,160 Speaker 2: And I haven't heard the word mangie in a while. 1919 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,599 Speaker 2: I like that mangy dogs. I like that a lot. 1920 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,280 Speaker 2: He's impressive. Good job at a zee and uh, it's 1921 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,800 Speaker 2: gonna be fun to see him barking at that defensive line, 1922 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,760 Speaker 2: which is gonna be pretty fearsome. By the time you 1923 01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,760 Speaker 2: get down to West Virginia here shortly, so much more 1924 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,560 Speaker 2: to come. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily a fifty ESPN. 1925 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Badley bet 1926 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1927 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, kid, It's good to be back. 1928 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:10,320 Speaker 3: You back, yeah, back, yeah, is the girl may join tomorrow. 1929 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, all right, he was like, I'm tentative 1930 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 3: on that day. I'm like, okay, right, terrible were waiting 1931 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 3: it out. 1932 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,280 Speaker 2: I can't tell you that the next level is coming 1933 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,080 Speaker 2: up next. We know you'll enjoy that. 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