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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Mini Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show Why the Long Face, animals

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Speaker 1: whose faces defy typical proportions, snouts, jaws, and eyeballs that

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Speaker 1: look like they're about to break the graphics engine on

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Speaker 1: the Planet Earth video game. Discover this and more as

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Speaker 1: we answer the age old question what's in Echidnas Deal?

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Speaker 1: Joining me today is friend of the show Coldbrew Got

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Speaker 1: Me Like Podcast, author of The Advice King Anthology, Chris

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Speaker 1: crofton Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, Katie. It's fun to be back on

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Speaker 2: the show. I can't wait to talk about snouts.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. It's these are all these animals. What

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Speaker 1: they have in common is they got long faces in

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Speaker 1: some kind of direction for some kind of reason. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just love it when an animal is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is your typical face that that someone might have. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go in a different direction with this

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Speaker 1: body part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then they've also accidentally, you know, provided you

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Speaker 2: know the joke, the why the Long Face jokes? Humanity

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Speaker 2: exactly incredible, What a gift on top of being weird

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Speaker 2: looking and and and also yeah, they just also gave

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Speaker 2: a great joke to everybody.

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Speaker 1: This is how I feel about horses is they just

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Speaker 1: keep giving to us, right, Like they give us something

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Speaker 1: to ride. They're fun and sweet, they had they Yes,

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Speaker 1: they sometimes kick us, but let's be honest, we deserve it.

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Speaker 1: But they give us horse jokes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not enough in my opinion, right should be kicking

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Speaker 2: more people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, strong agree, horses should be kicking more people.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So today we are going to talk not

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Speaker 1: about horses but animal other animals who have long faces.

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Speaker 1: So first we're going to talk about the sling jaw rass.

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Speaker 1: Now that is a strange name for a thing. The

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Speaker 1: sling jaw rass is a fish. At first, it's a

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Speaker 1: relatively normal looking fish. Females are brown or bright yellow,

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Speaker 1: and males have white faces and yellow orange and green bodies,

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Speaker 1: so they just kind of look like tropical fish. They

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Speaker 1: grow to be around twenty inches or fifty four centimeters long,

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Speaker 1: and they are found in tropical coral reefs of the

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Speaker 1: Indo Pacific. So far, so good. They just kind of

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Speaker 1: look like a typical tropical fish, but they can transform

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Speaker 1: from a normal looking fish into a horrifying hell demon

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Speaker 1: in a matter of seconds. So, Chris, I want you

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Speaker 1: to take a look at this animated or giff of

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Speaker 1: this fish and tell me what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now. It's like a kind

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Speaker 2: of like a you know those step stools, like you

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Speaker 2: know that your grandmother has, like those ones where you

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Speaker 2: can pull out the ones that have stairs, Like it's

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Speaker 2: like a stool, but then has that little staircase that's inside.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like that reminds me of like it's

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Speaker 2: like the fish looks like a normal fish, and then

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Speaker 2: you pull out this like reverse staircase. That's just it's

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Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. It's like it's it's

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Speaker 2: like maybe like a step down from a you know,

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Speaker 2: like a van that has like a step down from right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the elderly or something like the elderly need like an

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Speaker 2: automatic like the jaw drops down. Yeah, it's like a

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it looks like a regular fish, and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, this like extender it's a

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Speaker 2: can walk up easily easier to the fish's mouth.

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Speaker 1: I guess exactly. This is like an accessible fish. It's

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Speaker 2: Up to the Yeah, it drops down a step.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's but it's like it's sort of like

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Speaker 2: It even won't work. Yeah, it won't work as a step.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could kind of climb up it.

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Speaker 2: But don't let don't let grandma trying get in the

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Speaker 2: van using a sling jaw rass.

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Speaker 1: I mean, has it ever been tried? Do we know

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Speaker 2: And that's not sure. You have to get a big

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Speaker 2: sling jar. I don't know what size these fish are about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this so they're only about twenty inches long, so

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Speaker 1: it'd have to be like a small grandma.

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Speaker 2: A little Yeah it's very small, Yeah yeah, grandma. So

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Speaker 2: also it looks like one of those like it's like

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Speaker 2: it looks like a regular fish. Looks kind of like

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Speaker 2: a piranha to me. And then it like and then

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Speaker 2: it also has like you could also describe what falls

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does look like that it's like it goes,

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Speaker 2: Of Oh, it does extend. I was thinking it drops.

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Speaker 2: It really just extends. But it has this sort of

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Speaker 2: it's it's a very It looks like a dust buster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like a dustbuster, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, but at first it looks like a piranha.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a dustbuster, and it kind of

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Speaker 1: because this is carnivorous, it eats a small, small other

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Speaker 1: an extendable tube, and then it vacuums up its prey. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And when the jaw is extended, it is around half

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Speaker 1: animals from crevices in the coral reef. So typically these

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Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons coral reefs are so popular

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Speaker 1: amongst fish and crustaceans. Is there a lot of areas

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Speaker 2: It's terrible, It's absolutely terrible. It's not right at all,

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Speaker 2: this this thing, I mean, what kind of evolution is this?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: What one are you going to tell me? Here's this

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Speaker 2: is Katie. You can fill me in on this a

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Speaker 2: little bit. So you're gonna tell me that some fish

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Speaker 2: that just accidentally had a loose jaw like some you

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Speaker 2: so then everyone had a loose jaw like. I don't

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Speaker 2: just certain parts of evolution I just sound fishy to me.

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Speaker 1: No part you think there's like a fish god trying

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Speaker 2: So there were lots of vacuum fish that had a

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Speaker 2: Million years later the crabs were like, oh Frank, these

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Speaker 2: things got oh man, these things are long and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's using mechanisms right that are

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much you watch fish. I used

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Speaker 1: and they do kind of have to like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: I never thought of that.

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Speaker 1: I never thought of it because like, you can't if

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Speaker 1: And so when they're doing it, they kind of they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh, that makes sense. And then imagine

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Speaker 1: Are, these fish. Well, if you gave a giraffe, if

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Speaker 1: you gave a giraffe like a really really long snorkel, right,

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Speaker 1: long snorkel, then yeah they could they could wreak some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd like to see that. I'm supprised they

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Speaker 2: don't have a TV you show where they do.

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Speaker 1: That TV show where they give land animals snorkels.

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Speaker 2: And just like improper it's called like improper ecosystem, right, right.

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Speaker 1: Let's get a giraffe. Wet is the name of the.

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Speaker 2: More Exciting, More Exciting Ecosystem, hosted by Joe Rogan's.

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan would do that? That is that is that

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Speaker 1: totally would Yeah, just like he'd put a shark on

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Speaker 1: land and be like, hey, we gave this shark a

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Speaker 1: helmet full of water. Let's see how this shark does

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Speaker 1: on the plane.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And a lion underwater.

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan would try and fight, he'd.

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Speaker 1: Try to fight. He well, he put a shark in

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Speaker 1: a wrestling ring, right, yes, and then try to fight it.

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Speaker 1: But it'd be unfair to this shark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no good. I think maybe it should be

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Speaker 2: like we got to get I'm sorry I mentioned Joe

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Speaker 2: Rogan because he was trying to fight the animals.

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Speaker 1: I do always need an apology for anyone who ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like to mention it either. It ruined

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Speaker 2: my morning already. But but you know, like maybe just giraffe.

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Speaker 2: Introducing a giraffe is the name of the show or

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Speaker 2: something like that. Just a giraffe, the new giraffes in

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Speaker 2: ecosystems where they don't belong.

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Speaker 1: Right, just like see where you can put a giraffe.

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Speaker 2: It's just see what happens.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously exploitative of the giraffe. But you know a

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Speaker 2: That's pretty pretty uh telling as far as you know

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Speaker 2: No. The argument they make is, yes, that the fucking

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Speaker 1: Then we should then we should like dislocate our.

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Speaker 2: Jaws right exactly, and you know that, you know, there

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Speaker 1: So have you ever seen an echidna before, Chris, I

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Speaker 2: So this is David Attenborough's a kidnap. That's one kind.

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Speaker 1: You can take about half that amount of a kidnap.

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Speaker 1: vacuum attachment. Yeah. Their beak also has electro receptors, which

434
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: are speculated to allow them to detect the faint electrical

435
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: signals that come from the muscle movements of earthworms, so

436
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: they can locate them and just hoover them up. Like

437
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: it's like a vacuum and a metal detector all in one,

438
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: except it's detecting earthworms.

439
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, And it can insane.

440
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's nuts. It's like it has a probe

441
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: that it can use to find earthworms and then slurp

442
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: them up. It's functional and stylish.

443
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: That's you know like that. Yeah, I mean it's just

444
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: I kind of think of animals like I always think

445
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: of everything like the politics or so in my head,

446
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: and I always think about like people just like just

447
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: freaking out humans just being so broken in this way

448
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: where they they can't stop worrying and trying to dominate

449
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: each other, and meanwhile there's somebody just slurping up earthworms

450
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: and having the time of their lives.

451
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean this, I this is a lesson I think. Yes,

452
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: like when the world really gets to when you're getting

453
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: stressed out, when you feel like, oh we're all we're

454
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: all so much at each other's throats, just remember there's

455
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 1: this little weird, prickly guy in the forest slurping up

456
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 1: earthworms that it's really long tube snout.

457
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, having the time of his God.

458
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: Just enjoying it, enjoying life.

459
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. And we always say like, oh, they don't know,

460
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: you know, humans are always like, oh they don't they

461
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: don't have fun, they don't know that it's fun. But

462
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: you don't know.

463
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they have fun. I mean, like,

464
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously to us, maybe worms are a little

465
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: bit gross. But imagine if spaghetti, right, or lasagna, you

466
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: could just found that find spaghetti on the ground and

467
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: go around slurving up spaghetti on the ground.

468
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: I haven't had I haven't had breakfast yet. Sound pretty good, like.

469
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I if only I had no dignity,

470
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: I and I'm close, I'm close to having no dignity.

471
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: I would definitely enjoy just dropping a plate a nice

472
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: spaghetti on the ground and slurping it up. That would

473
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: be fun.

474
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, humans are too uptight to do any of the

475
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: fun stuff.

476
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Just the fact that our culture

477
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: doesn't allow us to have floor spaghetti, it really gets me. Yeah.

478
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: So again, it's like.

479
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: Call David. They call it David spaghetti.

480
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Third day it spaghetti. Excuse you?

481
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: I like you trying to cover cover yourself because you're

482
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: afraid of the losses.

483
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: He's very litigious. He will get you.

484
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: He will love I love that man.

485
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: I do too.

486
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: He's no, I don't know, I don't have an opinion

487
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 2: about him, but I'm sure he's nice, he's very I mean,

488
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: if he's discovering animals, he's way. He's part of the good.

489
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a conservationist. He's a good got a good voice,

490
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: a lot of good things. And maybe maybe he's like

491
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying if he does or doesn't slurp up

492
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: spaghetti on the ground, I won't I won't come on

493
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: either side of that.

494
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not gonna think of that.

495
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he does or doesn't do it.

496
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm what if he does get crazy?

497
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, That's what I'm saying.

498
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: What's next. You know, he's got his head in a

499
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: reef and he's trying to suck stuff.

500
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: If he does, he's allowed to do that because because

501
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: he's got Sir David's Sir David's a kid now, I think,

502
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: not a provingly his assistants.

503
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 2: Like, hang him upside down. Probably David wants to slurp

504
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: the reef.

505
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: Get the harnessed, Sir David wat, Oh my god, already

506
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: get in position. Maybe it's important for conservation for him

507
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: to understand what it's like to slurp a reef. I'm

508
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna I wish he's a hero.

509
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: He's a hero.

510
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: What other what other night of the Queen's Order would

511
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: slurp a reef for conservation? David Attenborough would because he's.

512
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: Not your McCartney.

513
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: No, no, he wouldn't. He wouldn't want to ruin his

514
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: hair by going underwater. I don't know much about.

515
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: You're right about that, No, no, you're right, Okay, exactly right.

516
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: So echidnas, like other monotremes such as platypuses, lay eggs,

517
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: so the females have a pouch where they incubate the eggs,

518
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: and the eggs hatch and the young are called, which

519
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: is adorable.

520
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

521
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: These puggles will lick up milk that oozes from their

522
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: mother's underside without the help of nipples. So monotremes typically

523
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: don't have nipples. Instead, the milk just kind of seeps

524
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: out through pores, and they're young just kind of lap

525
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: it up. Uh, because they don't have any dignity, which

526
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: I think is very free.

527
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: That's interesting, that's weird.

528
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: It's it.

529
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: No, I wonder why they concentrated so much on the

530
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: nose and forgot the nipples.

531
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: They forgot, they just forgot.

532
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: You know.

533
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: It's a lot it's a lot to think about. Uh.

534
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: The males do have spurs on the back of their

535
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: legs like platypuses, but in achidnas they are not venomous.

536
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: They have lost their venoms. So echidnas, despite looking maybe

537
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: a little more menacing that a platypus, is I think

538
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: less scary because they're not gonna jab you with that

539
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: venomous spike. They also have kloacas, which I like to

540
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: call the hole that does it all, just like birds

541
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: and reptiles. So uh yeah, it is. A kloaca is

542
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: a hole which through which everything from urinating, defecating and

543
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: sex stuff happens, which I think is very efficient.

544
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: Wow, what's it called cloaca?

545
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Wow? Birds have it?

546
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: I bet I bet you anything. There's a death metal

547
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: band called whatever that is.

548
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Let's see, I want to find out.

549
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: There must be cloaca. Yeah, like that's a good name

550
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: if you're starting, like a thrash metal or grind.

551
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Core band, right, Cloaca core because.

552
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: They like to explain it on stage what it is like.

553
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: They probably go like welcome work and in case you

554
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: didn't know what it was.

555
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: So there's a kloaca group in London.

556
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: Yep, and there's a taken Cool.

557
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Formed in two thousand and five in the UK. It's

558
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: atmospheric sludge metal. Yeah, that's my favorite kind of metal.

559
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: Atmospheric sludge.

560
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: That's one of the best kinds.

561
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: So uh. Fun fact about a kidnas A kid does

562
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: have four headed penises.

563
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: So oh my god.

564
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a little high five. So they

565
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: don't urinate out of their penis. That is actually what

566
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: the kloaca is for. They use the penis exclusively for mating,

567
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: and they store the penis in the kloaca and like

568
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: have it kind of like flop out whenever they're ready

569
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: for mating. Store it. Yeah, you know, it goes in there.

570
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: Goodness. Wow.

571
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Interesting like socks in your sock.

572
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Drawer storing your penis.

573
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: Sure. Uh, some animals would think it's weird that we

574
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: don't do that.

575
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: Where do you keep your penis?

576
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, just leave it out hanging out there really all

577
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: the time. Wow. So they Yeah, it looks like a

578
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: weird little like I don't know, it looks like a

579
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: weird little hand timmy.

580
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

581
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it's not the prettiest looking thing to

582
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: look at, but you know.

583
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: It's horrifying looking I'm you're I feel like you're under

584
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: playing what a nightmare thing is. This looks like absolutely,

585
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't even it looks extremely gross. I

586
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: mean it looks like Okay, well, I mean, you know,

587
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure not to them. I mean, I'm sure it

588
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: looks awesome to them. I think, you know, obviously, but

589
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: it looks like a you know, I'm not going to

590
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: say what it looks like, but it's a very meaty

591
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: and raw looking thing.

592
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks a little bit like some kind of

593
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: weird role Deli meats.

594
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: But that's what it looks like. You're right. It looks

595
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: like three four rolls of Deli meat.

596
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. So. They can only use two heads

597
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: of the penis at the same time when they were mating,

598
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: and it's thought that having multiple heads allow them to

599
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: mate more frequently without break time. Uh but yeah, that

600
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: is the wonderful echidnap with its a worm detecting snout.

601
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: It's sleaky, milky belly laid eggs as a foreheaded penis,

602
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: and it's crazy the size of like a hefty pug.

603
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Do they does any Well, I'm just I guess you

604
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: couldn't keep that as a pet. I mean people probably

605
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: try and keep everything you probably wish you you're not

606
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: supposed to do it anyway.

607
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it'd be great. I mean,

608
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: you've seen it's wiener.

609
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: Like, that's what I'm saying. You don't want to start

610
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: your day looking at that foreheaded, foreheaded deli Deli.

611
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Meat thing exactly. They've got they've got a natural anti

612
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: poaching method, which is just like, have you seen my wiener?

613
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: It's really weird. You probably don't want to deal with it.

614
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are kind of cute, though.

615
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: They are cute. They're very cute. I love them. I

616
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't want one as a pet, but I do love them,

617
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: and I would like to hug it. Well, I mean

618
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: at a zoo. I've seen them, but no, I have

619
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: not personally had the honor of hugging and a kidnaped.

620
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: I just realized that's that the head of an echidna

621
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: with that nose is what those plague masks.

622
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: It does kind of look like I don't know if

623
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: they were meant to look like an echidna, but they

624
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: do definitely look like them a lot. Like Yeah, yeah,

625
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: absolutely the cutest, the cutest little plague doctors out there.

626
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very cute. I mean, like imagine they had

627
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: no they don't know that they have so much going

628
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: on either. They're just like, I'm minding my business. Stop

629
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: looking at my talking about where my milk comes from.

630
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just minding their own business. Snorful.

631
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: It's not my fault. I don't have any nipples. I

632
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: don't know about that.

633
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I'm trying to.

634
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: Get some worms. I'm trying to eat some worms. Stop

635
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: photographing me.

636
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Just trying to live their life, stay in their lane

637
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: and snorrefl up ground spaghetti, and we keep talking about

638
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: their lack of nipples.

639
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: It's right.

640
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: I hate this Instagram culture where we're like talking about

641
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: like who does or doesn't have nipples and just you know,

642
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: it's yes.

643
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: And like they're yeah, and they're looking at us like,

644
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: you know, you think you're normal looking buddy.

645
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a matter of perspective. It's a matter of yeah.

646
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Your penis only has one head. Loser.

647
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and when we get back,

648
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the last animal of today's show

649
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: that has a long face in another direction. So far,

650
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: we've been talking about long faces that shoot forward? What

651
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Speaker 1: about long faces that go side to side or I

652
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Speaker 1: guess that would be a would that be a wide

653
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Speaker 1: face or a long face. I guess that'd be a

654
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: wide face, like a horizontal face.

655
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to find whatever this is. Oh, here it is. Yeah, okay,

656
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: this is like oh wow, that's a okay, yeah, that's

657
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: like a yeah, that's like a long wide looks like

658
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: a barbell, looks like as a bud on its teeth,

659
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: like a huge or a double headed match, like a

660
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: double headed match.

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00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: Mouth, yeah, like a baton or something. Yeah. Yeah. This

662
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: is the Telopsis dalmani fly or Malaysian stock eyed fly.

663
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: It has a ridiculously wide set face with long eye

664
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Speaker 1: stalks that jut out perpendicular to the fly's head. Uh.

665
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: And they like to hang out around streams any rotting vegetation,

666
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: so they have a chill life. They live on the

667
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: roots of plants that dangle near streams, and they have

668
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: a whole, the whole social life where males will compete

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00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: to establish their territory on these root systems, and if

670
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: they are successful, they will be able to accumulate a

671
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: harem of females. The females will choose which mate they

672
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: wish to join on their little root area, and it

673
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: seems like a lot of the female's decision is based

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Speaker 1: on how long the male's eye stalks are.

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00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: Wow, these that's not fair though. What about the other

676
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: ones that have short eyestalks? What are they? What are

677
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: they supposed to do? Plants? Suck on plants all by themselves.

678
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: I just go suck on planet all by yourself, all

679
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: by your lunesome sucks.

680
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I think those short I think

681
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: it's okay if your eyes aren't four feet from your head,

682
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: their eyes are like seriously like they're like, there's like, okay, Yeah.

683
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: It's like if you had two your eyes were like

684
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: two like two sticks coming out of the size of

685
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: your head, and your eyes are on the ends of

686
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: the sticks. So you're looking at not you're looking like

687
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: it way you're looking at You're not seeing what's right

688
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: in front of your face. You're seeing things that are

689
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: like four feet to either side of your face.

690
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: It's like if you had, yeah, two selfie sticks attached

691
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: to your face permanently with eyeb on the end. That's

692
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: probably what's you know, Brave New Future everybody with selfie sticks.

693
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Are people still using selfie sticks? I actually don't know.

694
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: We don't hear about them as much. I'll tell you

695
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: that there's too much in the news. There's too much

696
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: in the news cycle these days for selfie sticks to

697
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: get a spot.

698
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, our twenty four hour news cycle really pushed selfie

699
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: sticks out of there. But yeah, these are like selfie

700
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 1: sticks on the sides of their heads, so they these

701
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: istalks are so long they can be longer than the

702
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: fly's body length itself, which is a little absurd, a

703
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: little bit interesting to invest that much of your body

704
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: into your eyestalks. So females do also have the exaggerated

705
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: eye stocks, so it's not a trait that has only

706
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: evolved in males to attract females. Females also have them

707
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: there usually not as as exaggerated maybe as males, but

708
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Speaker 1: researchers have found that males also select for female with

709
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: wide eye stocks as well. So apparently both male and

710
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: female stock eyed flies really like long eye stocks for

711
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Speaker 1: some reason. And there are actually many different species of

712
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: flies that have these long eye stocks. In fact, there

713
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: are eight families of flies that have these long eyes stocks,

714
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: so it is not an like one time accident that

715
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: happened with one family of flies, when like evolutionary oopsie,

716
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: this keeps happening for some reason.

717
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do they know? Why does anybody know why they have?

718
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: Why are those helpful for it to see? Or is

719
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: it more like predators don't want something that looks like

720
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: you know, that's carrying like a.

721
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Speaker 1: Wand I mean it's still it's still somewhat of a

722
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: debate why this is the case. But the main thing

723
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: seems to be sexual selection, where they are selecting mates

724
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: that have this trait. Now, maybe originally that's so interest

725
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: maybe you're i know, like maybe originally having those eye

726
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: stocks probably did help with their vision, right, like give

727
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: them a wider range of vision. But then they started

728
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: it seems like this might be a case of runaway

729
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: selection where they started to select for like, well, you

730
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: have long eyetocks and therefore that helps you see, so

731
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: you're better mate. But then like it kept getting more

732
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: and more exaggerated. There's some of the some of the

733
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: theories are things like it is costly to have such

734
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: long eye stocks, so you have to be really fit

735
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: to be able to have such long eye stalks. There

736
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Speaker 1: there are multiple theories, but the main thing seems that

737
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: seems to be driving this extreme length of the eye

738
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Speaker 1: stocks is is mate choice sexual selection, which is always

739
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Speaker 1: I think sexual selection produces some of the weirdest traits

740
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: because it just is like an aesthetic trait that keeps

741
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: getting more and more exaggerated because these an are not

742
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: necessarily selecting it based on practicality, but because they like

743
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: how it looks, because it for some reason it is

744
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: triggering their would be.

745
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Speaker 2: Like a bodybuilder. Yeah, if a person was a bodybuilder

746
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: and they got their muscles so big that they couldn't.

747
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Speaker 1: Even use them basically, yeah, I mean that, yeah.

748
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: But that would get them. Yeah, somebody would find that attractive. Definitely.

749
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Speaker 2: I mean there's definitely people who like really outlandish muscles,

750
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: but they don't really serve a purpose because then you

751
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: can't move.

752
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no exactly. I mean I think about how like

753
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: we have fake eyelashes, right, that's not really practical anymore.

754
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: Our eyelashes are meant to kind of help shield our

755
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: eyes from things like dirt and stuff. And then and

756
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: then you start putting a fake eyelash on there that's

757
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: really big, really exaggerated, and it is you know, it's

758
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Speaker 1: this attractive thing, but it's it's not it's something that

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00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: we have. You know, well, everyone has their own taste

760
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: about it.

761
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Speaker 2: But I just thought about it. I just thought of

762
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: Attenborough's eyelash. I'm still.

763
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Sir Sir David's eyelash, how many times?

764
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Speaker 2: Uh, I'm trying to provoke him. Is he alive? Yes?

765
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he's alive.

766
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: I just provoked him.

767
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: He's like five hundred years old, but he's alive.

768
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: I'm looking at an animal right now.

769
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: That's so much his brand.

770
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: I've never been so alive. I'm looking at something that can.

771
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: He's he's it's all that. It's all that slurp, but

772
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: on coral reefs. It's really good for your longevity. So

773
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: many antioxidants down there.

774
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: He does it every morning.

775
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah morning, it's very refreshing. So the stock eye, so

776
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: the stock eyed fruit fly found in China has ridiculously

777
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: long eye stalks as well. The males will compete for

778
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: females by lining up their eye stocks together to see

779
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: who's as bigger. So wow, yeah, it's just this like

780
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: competition for who's got the longest eye stalks. It's really interesting.

781
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: Crazy, you're crazy, because you think you think of these

782
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: bugs looking at at a person, looking at a bug

783
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: looking at another bug, and like judging the eyestocks like

784
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, you know, we would be we

785
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: would be led to believe by scientists that they just

786
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: do it instinctively, so they're not in there, they're not

787
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: actually being like I like those eyestocks better, but I

788
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: mean they still have to have some I mean, that's

789
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: such a selection. Is such a strange thing, and an

790
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: animal that's supposed to be operating on instinct, like, but

791
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: there's a certain amount of attraction which we take all

792
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: the sexual you know, it's just instinct, it's just instinct.

793
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: But I wonder, you know, I always wonder whether they

794
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: could just be like you know, they could be on

795
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: the right track. Like maybe who knows if ey stocks

796
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: might be the hottest thing in the world. We just don't,

797
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: you know, we might need them.

798
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: We don't even know, you know, we don't have But

799
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we need to get eye stocks, but

800
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: maybe they're onto something.

801
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. If I'm not on ey stocks

802
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 2: right now, walk down the avenue.

803
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: You'd be you'd be the bill of the ball. You'd

804
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: be the talk of the town. I mean over It's true,

805
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to go to a china shop and

806
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: knocking over to people go to an antique store. Uh yeah,

807
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: But I mean it is interesting because yes, I mean

808
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: I think that in general, like a lot of the

809
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: things that we have that make us feel human, like

810
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: emotions and judgment and stuff. It originally, you know, originally

811
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: as we started out, like we did start out similar

812
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: to something like insects, where you know, we maybe a

813
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: lot of our quote unquote emotions are sort of more instinctive.

814
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: But then the line between like when do our instincts

815
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: and stuff and our our our impulses become emotions. It's

816
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: it's not clear to me when exactly that happens. Like,

817
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: I feel like mice probably feel emotions. Do are there

818
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: insects that feel emotions? Maybe it's just how do you know?

819
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: You can't get it. They they are very very simple,

820
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: so it's hard to imagine that they have very complex emotion.

821
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe there's maybe there's some joy that they have.

822
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Look at a real long set of eye stalks.

823
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and their perception of time might be different so people, Yeah,

824
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: they live such a short time but they for them,

825
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: it might be eons, you know, they might have like

826
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 2: a very full life in like one day.

827
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Speaker 1: Yeah. We actually on the show we've talked about before

828
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Speaker 1: this uh flicker fusion rate where it's uh the oh

829
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: basically brain processing time. So some it's speculated that things

830
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: like flies have this, uh it's a very slowed down

831
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: flicker fusion, so that they are able to basically like

832
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: if you're if you're trying to swat a fly, they

833
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: see things potentially in this very very slow motion, very

834
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: high frame rate. Yeah yeah, so like yeah, yeah, and

835
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: one way to catch a fly is actually if you're

836
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: really slow, they may not be able to detect your

837
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: movement as well because you're going so slow that they

838
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: don't even really notice that you're moving. So you can

839
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of like sneak up on a fly that way.

840
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: I bet you're wondering how do they, like, how do

841
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: they grow these things? How do they emerge out of

842
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: these like where do how do they grow these enormous

843
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: eye stalks? So when the icetock fruit fly first emerges

844
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: out of their shell from their pupil stage, their ice

845
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: stocks are actually short, but over the course of two

846
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: hours with a lot of rubbing and maneuvering. The ice

847
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: stocks get longer and fill with fluid, and at first

848
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: they are really wiggly, they look like a scrunched up

849
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: pipe cleaner. But eventually they straighten out, they darken, they

850
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: harden into the adult set of ice stocks. So I'm

851
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: sharing with you and all, including the show notes, the

852
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: most ridiculous set of photos I've ever seen from a

853
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: scientific journal of this newly hatched ice stock fruitfly, and

854
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: it's istocks growing into its adult proportions, and you can

855
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: see like it's just it's wild, like it looks like

856
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: at first it's just these wiggly squiggly things, and then

857
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: it gets longer and longer and then straighter, and then

858
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: finally it has these ridiculously long eyestalks.

859
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now, and I just reminded

860
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: me of the bottom left photo. Looks like Daniel Johnston's.

861
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: You know, Daniel Johnston, the musician. No, oh, he's a

862
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: he's he's considered an outsider artist. But he he painted,

863
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: and he painted like Antenna's with eyes on the end,

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Speaker 2: just like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, interesting, very.

866
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Speaker 2: Very that was his he I made I wonder if

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Speaker 2: he was aware of these animals, these bugs. I mean

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00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: he often drew these these creatures with with like long

869
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: hoselike things coming out of their head with eyes on

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Speaker 2: the end.

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00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: Daniel Johnston painting drugs.

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00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: See yeah, bugs, he does like uh.

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00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah that little frog thing, yeah right, yeah, no,

874
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: I see it.

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00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just reminded me very much of the bottom

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00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: left hand corner of that.

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00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I totally see that. That's really interesting and.

878
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: I didn't notice it until you see the color. That's

879
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: just like his thing. Yeah, I wonder they're very beautiful.

880
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: I like the before the growing into the eyestalks is

881
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: a very fun looking experience, Like it's kind of fun

882
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: when they're droopy and stuff.

883
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's all squiggly.

884
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: They are, as opposed to when they get like stiff,

885
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: then they just look hot.

886
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Speaker 1: Well, on that note, before we go, I'm gonna play

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00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: a little game called the Mystery Animal Sound Game Guess

888
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: Who's squawking? Every week I play a mystery animal sound

889
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: and you the listener, and you the guest, try to

890
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: guess who is making that sound. Uh. Last week's mister

891
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: animal sound was a tough one. The hint was this

892
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: this Madagascar native is named after the following alarm call.

893
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: All right, you hear that little like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

894
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: What is that?

895
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what that is. Sounds

896
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: like a bird. Is that a bird?

897
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: It is not a bird. It does sound a little

898
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: bit like a bird. I might have guessed bird if

899
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know what this was. A no. This is

900
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: a type of lemur found in Madagascar called the she fuck.

901
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Anti B, Marion D and Emily M for

902
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: guessing correctly. So there are nine species of she fuck.

903
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: They have white fur on their backs, brown fur on

904
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: their bellies, and black skin on their faces, hands and feet,

905
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: and yellow eyes. I think they're adorable. They have a

906
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: long tail and their feet are optimized for leaping from

907
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: tree branches, and they are so optimized for living in

908
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: trees and leaping and climbing that while they are on

909
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: the ground, they can't really walk, but instead they leap

910
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: to get around. So they kind of do this like

911
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: jumping sachet sort of movement just to get around.

912
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: That sounds nice.

913
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: It is fun. When I was little, I took ballet

914
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: and we learned how to sachet, and so I would

915
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: just do that through the house because it's actually a

916
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: pretty easy way to get around, is more fun than walking.

917
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we limit our we limit ourselves.

918
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: Skipping is fun in an interview efficient, if we didn't

919
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: have so many hang ups about skipping, I think it'd

920
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: be a fun way to get around.

921
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: Yep. So eating spaghetti, eating spaghetti, eating spaghetti off the ground,

922
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: Sasha in around the.

923
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: Things I would do from out from under society's crushing

924
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: expectations exactly. So. They are such good climbers that they

925
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: are able to climb limestone spires to look for vegetation

926
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: that grows on these perilous natural flowers, and their cushioned

927
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: toepads allow them to navigate sharp thorns without injuries. So

928
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: they are tough little guys. They're adorable and they are tough.

929
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: And that sounds you just heard was a she fuck

930
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: calling out to its friends to help locate each other.

931
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: So it's a cute sound.

932
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: It's very cute. It's like a little chuck. Yeah, So

933
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: onto this, So onto this week's mystery animal sound. The

934
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: hint is this, don't be too bitter if you can't

935
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: guess this one.

936
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: Hm m hm hm.

937
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: So Chris and he guesses as to who is squawking.

938
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean no, No, that's crazy sound.

939
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: That sounds like a that sounds like the sounds like

940
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: a car going by with a lot of bass.

941
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like to me, it sounds like someone's

942
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: blowing on top of a bottle, you know, doing that cool?

943
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I have No, I mean bitter, bitter,

944
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: don't get bitter the toad? Is it a toad?

945
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: It's a good guess, but you'll find out if you're

946
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: correct on next week's episode of Creature Feature. If you

947
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: out there, think you know who is making that sound?

948
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: Right to me at Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com. Chris,

949
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me for talking about

950
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: animals with a long face. I hope you don't have

951
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: a long face after listening to this. Where can people

952
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: find you?

953
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Thank you so much, Katie. It's always fun and

954
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: I find out stuff I'd never ever would know. And

955
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: you can find me on at the Crofton Show on

956
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram, and I created a TikTok account, but

957
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: I haven't put anything up on it right, And you

958
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: can go get my book, The Advice King Anthology, which

959
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: came out. I'm Vander Billet University Press last year, and

960
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: you can listen to my awesome podcast Coldbrew got Me Standard.

961
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: He's a real deal. He's drinking coldbrew right now if

962
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: you like. If you think it's just like a marketing strategy, no,

963
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: Katie said she saw it.

964
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: We're on zoom, you know, because yes, I just and

965
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: she was like, it is that iced tea? I kind

966
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: of almost like iced tea? Almost got angry screened.

967
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: Are you kidding through it against the camera.

968
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm an old time doc worker. I took

969
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: black coffee.

970
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: Ahead, check those things out. Be forewarned that cold brew

971
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: or bus It's never iced tea, always cold brew.

972
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: I got. You know, it's like I just switched. You know.

973
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: I used to drink a lot of alcohol, and now

974
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: I don't drink any alcohol. So I screw and it's

975
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: so much better, I gotta say. But it does interrupt

976
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: your sleep, so you gotta be careful people. No matter

977
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: how long your ey stocks are. You might feel like

978
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: you've got some long eye stocks and you can handle it,

979
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: but but it'll interrupt your sleep.

980
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta brew the cold but built with the

981
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: cold brew. You great, Yeah, that's it. Well, thank you,

982
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: guys so much for listening. If you're enjoying the show

983
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: and you leave a rating and review, I that means

984
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985
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Speaker 1: your reviews and it really helps me out. Uh and

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,040
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