Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect
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Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your boy
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Speaker 1: We talk about doug motivation, We talk about the hustler's hustler.
Speaker 1: We talk about a man that's grind after grinds, staying
Speaker 1: the state, relevance, stay everywhere, stay with a hit record,
Speaker 1: hit album, classic album, every whenever he wants to come.
Speaker 1: I thought this a mixtape was about to talk about
Speaker 1: but they said no, this is a full fledged album.
Speaker 1: Last time we had him on, we thought he was
Speaker 1: going to depart from his label. But they're here and
Speaker 1: this is going down. He is constantly. He's a bat
Speaker 1: Award winner just like us. That's right, nominated for four
Speaker 1: times the Grammys. But like I said, this is one
Speaker 1: of the real ones. So we're gonna stand up. We're
Speaker 1: gonna salute him at off top ef. We're gonna give
Speaker 1: him his flower first thing we do first, the first
Speaker 1: thing we're doing this because then your third time, this
Speaker 1: is yeah career, they don't like it's better than the
Speaker 1: granmy t I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead, pop my
Speaker 1: champagne to be you know what I'm saying. So jeez,
Speaker 1: you know I'm going through your photography. Um man, you
Speaker 1: got hit after hit after hit. You man, you put
Speaker 1: in a lot of work. Oh but have you ever
Speaker 1: like came close to your career like people try to
Speaker 1: cancel you? Of course? Really yeah all the time, I
Speaker 1: think this morning didn't happened though I had a lifetime script.
Speaker 1: It's solid so um but the only the only thing
Speaker 1: that kept me from getting canceled, you know, even though
Speaker 1: they couldn't. And that's what the whole camp in the snowman.
Speaker 1: She came right in the schools. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: started there. You was like the first cancel, I forgot
Speaker 1: that and I didn't even understand that because I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: how y'all gonna stop people from wearing a T shirt?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So that was confusing. But
Speaker 1: as I went onto my career, are to realize, like
Speaker 1: when you make decisions that you know it's gonna better
Speaker 1: you or your team and the people around you, everybody
Speaker 1: might not like that, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: just like is that crabs in the barrel syncerome. It's
Speaker 1: just like, you know, everybody ain't gonna grease, so it's like,
Speaker 1: let's cancel them. But see what they didn't know is
Speaker 1: they put me in the position anyway. The streets put
Speaker 1: me in the eisence and the streets. We don't cancel people.
Speaker 1: You just you just expire. Know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: go to the penitentiary or you go into that wooden box.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I dodged one, which was
Speaker 1: a penitentiary. So you know, I mean, you know, Snowman
Speaker 1: is a mortal baby. It's like, this is real, this
Speaker 1: is this is what it's about. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I leave by example and and the moves that I
Speaker 1: make so people like or the so so the real
Speaker 1: the real ones like you an't gotta live by nobody
Speaker 1: rules or nobody box you in because that's the standard
Speaker 1: for them. And people want you to be the old
Speaker 1: U all the time, so that makes them feel comfortable
Speaker 1: being we all. You know what I'm saying, because I
Speaker 1: couldn't sit down and talk to the old nor. He
Speaker 1: probably had like five choppers right here. You different dues,
Speaker 1: So let's this is this is your own Yeah, your
Speaker 1: name is no. I'm partnering up with some people out
Speaker 1: of France. Okay, it looked like some friend ship. We
Speaker 1: got coney jack, we got gin, we got vodka. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not all the expiracy, y'all give it up for that, y'all.
Speaker 1: And if y'all didn't know my history when it comes
Speaker 1: to drinks, so first I had that, I'll be no,
Speaker 1: but I had a great Goose situation. I had a
Speaker 1: great Goose. Yeah, I had to deal with great Goose
Speaker 1: and I peeped the earl's Like, so, y'all want to
Speaker 1: give me a little money to go out here and
Speaker 1: push your brand, but it's not mine, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And where I come from, it's like that's
Speaker 1: like somebody give me, someone can sign me. That's not mine,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I wanted my own
Speaker 1: brand and when I when I got out of that deal,
Speaker 1: I want to sat down with my my my business partner,
Speaker 1: which one of my mentors, and we built Avian up
Speaker 1: and Solda to panoa card and I got your face.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but it happened because I was like, oh
Speaker 1: no about this rap ship um, but it talking me
Speaker 1: because he went on to do uh Terramundo with The
Speaker 1: Rock okay and Proper Thirdteam with Connor McGregor, and I
Speaker 1: want on to do this with what I learned from him.
Speaker 1: So it's just like if you come from while I'm from,
Speaker 1: it's like having the whole damn Lioker Stoke, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Like you
Speaker 1: got gin Cone Yak and vodka like you know, so yeah, good, good,
Speaker 1: good move dogged in the Proper Thirteam. You ever tasted
Speaker 1: that it's horrible, Yes, it's horrible. It's horrible. Whiskey a
Speaker 1: Japanese whiskey guy. So I don't really like Scot the
Speaker 1: old Nory went drange. Yeah, yeah, I said. So I'm
Speaker 1: listening to the Preface Club, I believe yesterday and it
Speaker 1: wasn't today, yesterday, I think it was yesterday and Freddy
Speaker 1: Gibbs come on and then they say something, they say, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, this is the first time you'll see
Speaker 1: each other. I think you've seed each other in the
Speaker 1: airport and you got to speak. So how was that was?
Speaker 1: Was was that something that you wanted to do? I mean, this,
Speaker 1: this is the thing, bro, I ain't never had no
Speaker 1: issue with gids Man, you know what I'm saying. Always
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna pop, He's gonna be on and
Speaker 1: what I think about all this in music, we're really
Speaker 1: ended this ship streating anything and just be a lack
Speaker 1: of communication. And he was wrong, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: and I respect that, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: I just I didn't understand it. But from where he
Speaker 1: was coming from, that's how he saw it. But if
Speaker 1: we communicated, I could have been like, no, Bro, that
Speaker 1: ain't that. Ain't that you know what I thought? This
Speaker 1: is me looking from the outside and that's an inside
Speaker 1: I'm looking out right. I always thought that. I think
Speaker 1: that how Ross was at the time. It was like
Speaker 1: you and Ross was taking shots at each other, right,
Speaker 1: and it felt like Ross. I felt like me kind
Speaker 1: of had Ross back, and it felt like maybe Gibbs
Speaker 1: one of that same thing for you, or you wanted
Speaker 1: that same thing from games. I think that's where the
Speaker 1: communication kind of you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: I think what happened on my end is that you know,
Speaker 1: I was trying to get him a deal, which I
Speaker 1: wanted him to have, but I couldn't. So it was
Speaker 1: a lot of frustration there, you know, right right there,
Speaker 1: and it's just like I didn't want to hold him up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, I don't trying this every weight.
Speaker 1: And it ain't that you're not gonna get a deal.
Speaker 1: It just I can't get it. But you've been young,
Speaker 1: and that it says, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: because you know what it is. It was really like
Speaker 1: the hottest thing and I'm gonna be I learned a
Speaker 1: lot about that too, because I was I was in
Speaker 1: my own bag, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: was doing things, but I was still trying to keep
Speaker 1: my career with that too, So I learned a lot
Speaker 1: from that experience. But I do feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you really got an issue with another grown man,
Speaker 1: when you see him, you're gonna feel like that. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that, you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, what up? You know? We it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we had some good times. It was the miscommunication.
Speaker 1: By the way, every situation I've ever been in in
Speaker 1: the streets or music has been a miscommunication or either
Speaker 1: somebody talking in between people. You know, like if I
Speaker 1: tell you something, you tell him. By the time they
Speaker 1: get over there, it's a different, different and he's like,
Speaker 1: he said what you know what I'm saying, and that
Speaker 1: ain't even what he said, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So crazy to hear you say that. I'm listening to
Speaker 1: your music, and then I think you admitted to you
Speaker 1: being wrong in the Ross Beef like you was just
Speaker 1: like like that was crazy for for for give us
Speaker 1: to say that to you. But then I'm listening to
Speaker 1: your music and I'm like, oh, ship, we kind of
Speaker 1: went through. I feel again this miscommunication agive miscommunication because
Speaker 1: again I'm walking down South Beach, you know, leaving the
Speaker 1: club like three hundred deep. You know, I'm off that
Speaker 1: we was drinking eight hundred back Quavo, I'm popping. Remember
Speaker 1: this video King Malcolm X year coming out of cameo.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking, you know what I mean, whoever wanted
Speaker 1: to get it next thing? You know? So you know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not going it was an issue. Listen again with
Speaker 1: no issue though when when I you know, Kelley shout
Speaker 1: out to call made that right, call me that right.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie a little bit, but me just
Speaker 1: hearing y'all together, like listening to y'alls like, damn, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad they squashed their beef. That's the thing, like
Speaker 1: it ain't you know, unless his family or money, ain't
Speaker 1: no beef. It's just misscommunications. But that's the problem with
Speaker 1: the coach of the way it is now, like you know,
Speaker 1: they ready to kill something about nothing. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like ain't no integrity and that you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that we don't win the war as a country
Speaker 1: several times and and once you've done doing what you
Speaker 1: gotta do, you still gotta figured out, but you gotta
Speaker 1: co exist what I'm saying. So even with the ross thing,
Speaker 1: I would say like it just took hip hop. You
Speaker 1: know hip hop because I knew hip hop because he
Speaker 1: was I was working at his studio and an actually
Speaker 1: hipop the person in Calip because I trusted Calip. And
Speaker 1: he was like, y'all just want to get y'all to
Speaker 1: sit down. But it's just like, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: like I'm thinking to sit down. It's like me and
Speaker 1: like fifty of my home, whoever you brave, Like, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta sit down, just you and Ross. And he
Speaker 1: was wanting to do the world Ready record, and um,
Speaker 1: you'll tell you the irony of that. So CALLI sat
Speaker 1: us down immediately. You know, you know, if you feel something,
Speaker 1: if it's an issue, it was like, oh you don't
Speaker 1: say I was like, no, I ain't you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So now we had that, so we chopped
Speaker 1: it up. You know what I'm saying. Took I had
Speaker 1: avion back then, So we took each other's you know,
Speaker 1: two drinks, swapped them, mount two pictures like show lo right,
Speaker 1: but then let me tell you the are any of that?
Speaker 1: So we do the verse. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I went Turkey ham on that. But um,
Speaker 1: he wants to shoot the video. He wants to shoot
Speaker 1: the video in New Orleans. I think it's like Super
Speaker 1: Bowl All Star Game. Why when they sending the treatment,
Speaker 1: all the video is is us, us in people around
Speaker 1: us shooting a bunch of real eight k's, but but
Speaker 1: they got blanks at them. So I'm just like, so
Speaker 1: you had the video see all the years, but it's
Speaker 1: a already. So two people who just sat down, like
Speaker 1: you know what it mean, it was like it was
Speaker 1: it was tens you feel tense, real tests. But shout
Speaker 1: out to Rolls though. Man like even we went on
Speaker 1: tour and you know, got money together and we and
Speaker 1: we shared game all the time because all of us
Speaker 1: are not the same, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: everybody got different skills set. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's good in his departments. You know I'm good in mine.
Speaker 1: You have other people that are good in this and
Speaker 1: when you able to sit down, chop it up and
Speaker 1: talk about business and future ship. It's bigger than just music.
Speaker 1: That's maturity to right, It's bigger than music. It's it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: you know you want to support here you want to
Speaker 1: get in and vice versa, and I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, really what it's about.
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta gotta have money to live, money survived, money,
Speaker 1: have fun, guys. So I'll tell you something. I see
Speaker 1: you since you came into this game. Last time I
Speaker 1: seen you, we was in l A. You were literally
Speaker 1: by yourself and it was like it was the most
Speaker 1: peaceful I've ever seen you in life, Like you were
Speaker 1: literally comfortable dolo like you was. You walked in, you
Speaker 1: had a little bit of uh tequilla, you were chilling.
Speaker 1: We we had to you shoot the side, we had
Speaker 1: to drink me, you and Fat Joe, and then it
Speaker 1: was just you just stayed the whole time just by yourself.
Speaker 1: Like I want to say, what is it? No, what's
Speaker 1: it called? You en? Yeah? I felt like you had
Speaker 1: a meeting with Phil Jackson. Yeah, and then you came
Speaker 1: into this party like where's this new jeezy energy? Like
Speaker 1: like I can feel peace. I don't need to get
Speaker 1: like I never need a validation. But I think when
Speaker 1: you stripped the stereo type down and go with what
Speaker 1: it is being a man first, and I've been on
Speaker 1: the front line with you know anything I've ever been
Speaker 1: involved with. Some people were like Pablo esketball. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: chopo on the front line, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And once I realized that, you know, when you get
Speaker 1: them paying for enough lawyers, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: paying you know, lawsuits and all these different things because
Speaker 1: somebody around you reacted to done something. You know, these
Speaker 1: civil suits. You know you you know you're back against
Speaker 1: the wall, people saying you know soon you're fifty sixty
Speaker 1: million dollars. And it just dawned on me, like you
Speaker 1: don't want to gonna make sure you straight, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm gonna take care of me.
Speaker 1: I don't need to. I don't need to get on
Speaker 1: the front line for you. That's that's on you now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for me, I just
Speaker 1: really roll because I know I know I got there's
Speaker 1: so much as mean, like I ain't took nothing from nobody,
Speaker 1: my man, integrity. You ain't going no hood, no block,
Speaker 1: I mean from here to you know a lot of
Speaker 1: them people knew me before wrap on forgetting money and
Speaker 1: being who I said I was, so they have respect
Speaker 1: for me. So even if I'm in somebody's city, I'm
Speaker 1: still good because it ain't no bad energy. Like I'm
Speaker 1: done something. It took something from you. And then when
Speaker 1: it comes to you know the other stuff like the
Speaker 1: rap ship, I don't move like a rapper. I'm moved
Speaker 1: like a grown ass man. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't playing. He feels me like that. That's that.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever it's gonna be, ain't gon in here,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but it has to
Speaker 1: be some type of super growth because I remember me
Speaker 1: first time seeing you and in Atlanta would be a
Speaker 1: math all over. I'm it's be a math shirts all over,
Speaker 1: crazy all over, and like for you to go from
Speaker 1: that be that comfortable there, and I can see that
Speaker 1: same comfortability for you by yourself. I mean it's peaceful bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah dear with everybody else issues man, because I'm not
Speaker 1: there yet almost yeah yeah, it's like every three of
Speaker 1: the sea. Yeah yeah. But I mean I just feel
Speaker 1: like you just come to a point where you know
Speaker 1: you're just you're good with you. Man. It's like that's
Speaker 1: real love, bro, Like you got self love. You don't
Speaker 1: really need no validation from the outside. I just feel
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. I know I
Speaker 1: like to do what I like to do. Everybody might
Speaker 1: not be into that. You know what, I want to
Speaker 1: go to a party doll and sip you know, Champagne
Speaker 1: Na with Nori without it being uncomfortable, Like, yo, who
Speaker 1: is all this? You know what I'm saying. Your people
Speaker 1: there and you know fat Joe come around so with
Speaker 1: an extra And when you get to a certain point
Speaker 1: of the game and you risk it all like I have,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to lose it all. You don't
Speaker 1: even want to play like that anymore because I don't
Speaker 1: even take you one time you're a party, You're gonna
Speaker 1: lose everything you got. I started to um appreciate being
Speaker 1: lighter during during the pandemic because it would be like
Speaker 1: you just it's just you and your lady, you and
Speaker 1: your wife, no choice, You had no tricker to take
Speaker 1: a test, no Atlantic. Yeah, Miami got wild. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. Atlanta is loose like Atlanta. Listen to me.
Speaker 1: I love Atlanta. We just came and we just won
Speaker 1: awarded congratulations. Yes, so man, uh, you know, moving around
Speaker 1: because let's gonna get the quicktim of slime, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we gonna get the quick time. Okay, so we because
Speaker 1: because GZ been on twice, but we didn't have I
Speaker 1: don't think we didn't have we didn't have quick Can
Speaker 1: you explain the rules on the event. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: give you two names, two things. You pick one, and
Speaker 1: we're good. You picked both or neither the political correct question.
Speaker 1: If you pick something, you're good good if you say
Speaker 1: both or neither of them, meaning you opt out of
Speaker 1: even answering. And we all drinking, but we drink with you.
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't leave out. We're all drinking. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we drink. We drink. What you do? What's it called
Speaker 1: to getting? No? No, I ain't gonna lie. No, it's
Speaker 1: out hall, it's all. It's not like something you drink
Speaker 1: four m in Paris. You have some crapes. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You pour it on your crepes? Are
Speaker 1: you ready? Are you ready? You ready? Okay? Tupac or
Speaker 1: d MX Tupac. Oh, that was easy? Okay? Jay z
Speaker 1: or nas jay okay. Dungeon family or Woultan clans always
Speaker 1: gonna left. You can never catch Atlanta with that question,
Speaker 1: Shorty Red or drummer board Shorty Red, we might not
Speaker 1: take shots serious, okay, outcast or you g k g
Speaker 1: k okay, let's respect that young dog or future future,
Speaker 1: little baby or Gunna little baby, no limit or cash money,
Speaker 1: cash money baby, Magic City or Blue Frame Magic City. Man,
Speaker 1: what're you're talking about? Take a shot anyway? He get? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh you're taking a shot with y'all. Ain't skipping me.
Speaker 1: We went to the Magic City. I can't throw the
Speaker 1: money correctly. I mean, like my ship I saw. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm in New York, Old School New York. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was throwing a lot, but it was just taking. Everyone
Speaker 1: was looking at me work. Even my wife was like,
Speaker 1: come on, get your life. You gotta flick the risk
Speaker 1: a certain Yeah, it just wasn't working for me. That
Speaker 1: you're gonna give. You're gonna get somebody a concussion if
Speaker 1: you met him in Yes, I wasn't ready for a
Speaker 1: concussion at the Reckless round. Are getting cool? Cool? Cool?
Speaker 1: Were we're drinking? Okay? Ze Tobin or Metro booming uh,
Speaker 1: Metro woman, Metrial Woman, Blue Jack City or Minister Society,
Speaker 1: Jack City. I'm about getting money okay, okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: right because society was okay, all right, A T L.
Speaker 1: Jacob or eight oh eight Mafia, A T L Jacob,
Speaker 1: DJ Collet or DJ Drama, DJ Drama. I got a
Speaker 1: mixtape coming right now, mixtape coming. He's making this quick
Speaker 1: time for real. Yeah yeah, when I got so so deafer,
Speaker 1: bad boy, bad Boy Atlanta Airport gonna be real yea
Speaker 1: or for yeah yeah, loyalty or respect lordy loyalty? Why
Speaker 1: this is easy? It's the first yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: your yeah, but why why loyalty? Because if if somebody,
Speaker 1: if somebody respects you, they're gonna be loyal. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody can respect you would not be meaning like somebody
Speaker 1: have love for you, still not be loyal. There's somebody's loyal.
Speaker 1: There's there's something there like you might not even like me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but you're not gonna do
Speaker 1: nothing to cross me out because you're like, you know
Speaker 1: what he brought me the game where he showed me something,
Speaker 1: he gave me a craft. It's just like, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do that, you know. When I'm from you know,
Speaker 1: I would rather you know, That's what kept me alive. Loyalty.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what kept me out
Speaker 1: of the intentiary loyalty Like my my, you know, my
Speaker 1: older cousin that did fifteen years for me for ten
Speaker 1: years came out. You know what I'm saying. That was
Speaker 1: that was loyalty. Wouldn't He didn't throw me under the
Speaker 1: bus because he respected me. He was loyal. He was like,
Speaker 1: you got a shot. You know what I'm saying, You
Speaker 1: you can be something. So I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: you know, take this time to lay down and you know,
Speaker 1: make sure you good. Some shout out to him for
Speaker 1: making sure we're making sure y'all got a young jeezy
Speaker 1: because if he wouldn't have sat down, there wouldn't be
Speaker 1: no me. But I'm gonna take a shout. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: still not ready to come on to being racist over here?
Speaker 1: Giving me water man, I'm offended. Yeah, although I love
Speaker 1: the water, so I don't know. I gotta love the boy.
Speaker 1: You gotta love won jees Man. Salute to you, man,
Speaker 1: Salute man, stot a little man. The team came. It
Speaker 1: was ready hit a promotional truck out, So you ain't
Speaker 1: playing around every time you come to dream and you
Speaker 1: don't play around. Yeah, first time you came, you had girls.
Speaker 1: What happened to the girls ship? They wouldn't loyal? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just I just went to you this photography. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm dyslexic. So yeah, so we got to Freddie Cibs question.
Speaker 1: But back featuring Yo Gotti? Right, how did that record
Speaker 1: come about? Got me and God? He came in the
Speaker 1: game together. You know what I'm saying. You just performed
Speaker 1: with his artist at the BT Bar. Shout out to
Speaker 1: right there were on stage. Forget that, Yeah, yeah, don't
Speaker 1: forget that. Yeah, shout out the guy, like you know,
Speaker 1: like with Gotti man, me and got It and Me
Speaker 1: and God he was sitting in the street like we
Speaker 1: probably get money together. That's just how we cut. You know.
Speaker 1: Inficent with Tennessee and George is like hand to hand.
Speaker 1: But me and God, he came in the game together.
Speaker 1: When I was running around doing my first mixtape, like
Speaker 1: the streets, watching the Trap of Die. That's when I
Speaker 1: met Gotti and Memphis. Yeah, I didn't know that that's
Speaker 1: what he was doing. I knew him as a street
Speaker 1: guy like he knew me. So we kind of just
Speaker 1: grew up through the ranks and I always stayed in touch.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, like me and got to see
Speaker 1: that we talk about life and don't really be about music.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying as much and um, I
Speaker 1: just hear him sometimes he hit me about um act
Speaker 1: right and I was like yo, he said, you'll want
Speaker 1: you to get on this record. I was like, yeoall
Speaker 1: do it. But I just signed this artist from Cali,
Speaker 1: which was why g I was like, you know, why
Speaker 1: you gotta be on it with me? He was like,
Speaker 1: who running? And I said one more thing. He was like,
Speaker 1: what's that? I said, we got to shoot the video,
Speaker 1: the video on the bay. We gotta go to East
Speaker 1: Oakland and shoot the video. He's like, let's do it.
Speaker 1: So all that happened like that. So that's the kind
Speaker 1: of report we got. No no, no, no no. But
Speaker 1: he but I brought y g Um. I had him
Speaker 1: from death him and brought him over with me and
Speaker 1: we did this first album. Um uh, his first album.
Speaker 1: I think I don't might be two times platform it's
Speaker 1: crazy my crazy life, okay, because I think it is
Speaker 1: my crazy No No, he froosts. But you know, at
Speaker 1: the same time, though you know, I didn't never want to,
Speaker 1: you know, say that, but I kind of felt like
Speaker 1: that was an accomplishment of his own to even put
Speaker 1: up artists that was from you know, the West side
Speaker 1: California in the mix that when you wanted to shoot
Speaker 1: in the Bay though, because I knew it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be, like that's what you wanted.
Speaker 1: You wanted that real the HiFi. And that was crazy
Speaker 1: because it was like when we first went out there,
Speaker 1: you know, were out there with the trailers, it was
Speaker 1: like ten people out there. When the word got out
Speaker 1: was like seven thousand. You know what I'm saying. People
Speaker 1: are gonna dumb in the streets, you know, doing their
Speaker 1: crazy you know, ghost riding the whip, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it shout out to the shout out
Speaker 1: to the Bay for the love. But act right through
Speaker 1: my act right but back. I hit Gotti up in
Speaker 1: and he uh. I sent him the beat and he
Speaker 1: just put a verse on it, and then I heard
Speaker 1: something he said in the verse, and then I chopped
Speaker 1: it up and made it the hook and then sent
Speaker 1: it back and towing the verse on it, and then
Speaker 1: I put the birth. So I put this song together.
Speaker 1: So we didn't have a concept. He just said something
Speaker 1: about back and I just put it together and talking
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, so let's dress the other fit in
Speaker 1: the boom. Let's go, let's talk about Snowfall. Oh yes, Snowfalls.
Speaker 1: That's that's a new album. Because by the time that
Speaker 1: it out, it's out. It's out. Shout out, shout out
Speaker 1: the DJ Drama. You know, I don't know how Man
Speaker 1: and Drama got in the game. Like, by the way,
Speaker 1: Drama didn't even want to do my first mixtapes. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He was back there. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was tight. He was he was living in I understand
Speaker 1: how yellow. You know. I came over his house. He
Speaker 1: lived in the hood on Boulevard for for You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm I'm getting money for real, say
Speaker 1: four yeah, getting money for real. I'm living the buckhead
Speaker 1: of the time, right, I live with you know, I'm
Speaker 1: living you feel me. I come over his house. He
Speaker 1: asked me taking my shoes, I'll be staying in the hood.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it was just yellow and and and uh
Speaker 1: we just he started doing my show takes for a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars and and I kind of seeing what he
Speaker 1: was doing. I was like, y'all want you to do
Speaker 1: a tape and he was like, nah, you ain't had
Speaker 1: enough shot. I got money that's hot, you feel me?
Speaker 1: And we went back and forth for months and months,
Speaker 1: and then he just finally decided to do it, and
Speaker 1: I took him a bunch of songs over there and
Speaker 1: we did Streets Watching, which was supposed to be called
Speaker 1: geez Up at first, but I changed the name at
Speaker 1: the last minute. And when I done it, I was
Speaker 1: already working on Trappic Die, just to tell him that
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so then you know, of course,
Speaker 1: I went back in. I was just like, I put
Speaker 1: this this mixtape out and I started to see some
Speaker 1: momentum and I'm like, how can I do it bigger?
Speaker 1: So this is when I went and got all the
Speaker 1: footage I had uh and made a DVD for trapp
Speaker 1: A Die, and then put Trapper Die out with the
Speaker 1: DVD and to this day like probably the best thing
Speaker 1: I've ever done. I remember being in the studio with
Speaker 1: Tricking Jazz Faye, like I'm about to put out a
Speaker 1: mixtape and they're like, you're crazy, why would you get
Speaker 1: your music away for free. You're talking. I was pressing
Speaker 1: up you know, five six hundred thousand CDs and passing
Speaker 1: them out. You know what I'm saying. It clubsed me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Bow and Yeah. I was watching.
Speaker 1: I was passing out of my frad. I go park
Speaker 1: my Friday to top, go out there with my little
Speaker 1: crew to who's passing out your mix tape? Yeah, to
Speaker 1: get signed or get yeah, okay, I just want to
Speaker 1: make By the way, I was doing Boys in the
Speaker 1: Hood shows with Boys in the Hood and we're just
Speaker 1: getting paid a thousand dollars together. It was coming on
Speaker 1: and it was so crazy. It's four of us in
Speaker 1: the manager. You spent two hundred dollars a piece. I
Speaker 1: got half a million dollars in the front of the carn.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm confused, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I'm saying that I'm being real.
Speaker 1: And it got to the point where I'll just let
Speaker 1: them keep the money, because like it wasn't gonna do
Speaker 1: me any good, you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: wanted to my My pointing case was I wanted to
Speaker 1: do anything to get myself out of the situation I
Speaker 1: was in. And we gotta take a shot for that man,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a shot. And and and so Drama
Speaker 1: Drama did trapa di And I think trapad made Drama,
Speaker 1: believe it. But it also, you know, saved my life.
Speaker 1: It took me out the whole ship. That's that, that's that,
Speaker 1: that's that watermelon, that my badood with that Solottle solo
Speaker 1: to you. Godamn. But if college and DJ Drama was
Speaker 1: the really battle on versus you're coming out with Drama,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be a space you have to
Speaker 1: be on both sides. They've got records. But you didn't
Speaker 1: pick drama though, because I picked drama because we got history.
Speaker 1: Not you trying to say Collus the l a d
Speaker 1: J though that's what you said. I look at Callia
Speaker 1: Lord of Artists. Though for me, I'm Drama as an
Speaker 1: artist too. Now I think they they're kind of in
Speaker 1: the same vange. Drama don't like people not calling him
Speaker 1: an artist. That's what this whole thing is about. Both
Speaker 1: put out the album. Um, I rock with both of
Speaker 1: them because Kelli gave a shot too, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be clear about that. I don't know. We was all
Speaker 1: at uh this club members called amnesia. Yeah about remember
Speaker 1: I was there. You know the irony of you saying
Speaker 1: record at the time, this is the irony of him
Speaker 1: saying amnesia. You're saying, I remember, that's the exact opposite
Speaker 1: of amnesia. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: small buses. He came into buses and and I had
Speaker 1: to get money over here with bun b which was
Speaker 1: on the first mixtape Me and Drama that shout out
Speaker 1: to bun Be. He was one of the first major
Speaker 1: artists that gave me a feature. And I remember going
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. I was like yo with a bathroom man,
Speaker 1: and he's like upstairs, and I went upstairs because he
Speaker 1: was in amnesia. And I go upstairs and all I
Speaker 1: see is this I don't really know County, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm standing on the on the counter. He
Speaker 1: going crazy everybody. So I go downstairs and I tell everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole another club up there. So
Speaker 1: we all go up. There's cluding fabulous and all us
Speaker 1: go upstairs. Fab go holiday, Cali, Cali give him the mic.
Speaker 1: He rocks it right, So I'm standing beside fab I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: ask him, can I get the mic too? Cali give
Speaker 1: me one of those you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: who is this? You know what I mean? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm young jeezy, like who like won't know you. I'm
Speaker 1: just like yeo, man. So I get my man to
Speaker 1: give him the record. You know, I'm prepared to pay
Speaker 1: him to play the record. This is just Temple his
Speaker 1: birthday party. No this just remember that. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: think one of the homies told me I just play
Speaker 1: his record. He played getting Money over here with m
Speaker 1: with bumb This was probably one of the biggest records
Speaker 1: in the Magic City at the time, and the roof
Speaker 1: flips off and I remember Cali looking at me like,
Speaker 1: oh ship. That's how me and Cali got cool because
Speaker 1: he had to see it, and it just went from there.
Speaker 1: In Miami was just like already my second home. But
Speaker 1: that that ticket to another levels. Shout out to caliper
Speaker 1: that what I'm saying, big, but what your money is
Speaker 1: batting on even if you ain't gonna come out and perform,
Speaker 1: We're either one. He really wanted to what would you
Speaker 1: get as far as records, what would you bet who
Speaker 1: would win college or drama? I mean it's drama using
Speaker 1: mixtape record? How does this work? Drama? Think? So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all go. I'll tell you what like not not
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm being neutral. I wouldn't want to see
Speaker 1: because I don't know. Let's take a shot for that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm being real, like so fair. I want
Speaker 1: to see that he is he gonna be in a
Speaker 1: huge JEZ record because it's yeah, that's that's That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because, um, but what you're saying, it has
Speaker 1: to be his records, so that he made with you
Speaker 1: though they can't just be a big stage and he
Speaker 1: took from somebody else. I'm heah, he's I mentioned right
Speaker 1: because Kelley has more bodies of work, probably more more
Speaker 1: a little bit of bigger work, more studio albums. Right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So you got your shot ready? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: already see what's going on. And that's the Montica. Now
Speaker 1: what kind of the Monty Cristo, Monty Crystal I'm a
Speaker 1: part of that's an anniversary. I don't know that part.
Speaker 1: That's that big boy, that's it's about seven hundred stick
Speaker 1: solid Jesus specific right, goddamn. M hmm. So do you
Speaker 1: watch BMF. I haven't. I've seen some passing um producer
Speaker 1: or produce, so all that on me, honestly consulting man,
Speaker 1: because it's too tricky. I know everybody for real, everybody's
Speaker 1: not gonna be happy with that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And for me, that's not my that's not my story
Speaker 1: to tell you what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's affiliated. Like whenever people here BMTH, they always
Speaker 1: say the first artists of being math was Jez. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is not true, but it's not true, but
Speaker 1: I mean the national level, he was the first artist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he didn't break it. Was never a BMTH artist.
Speaker 1: He was directly a Bright but you was affiliated me
Speaker 1: and Meets was like YouTube, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: which means that I had you know, and I had
Speaker 1: my crew. Um, so they kind of it was like
Speaker 1: if you cool with Nori and all of us cool
Speaker 1: with Nori, then you're cool with them, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He got his own cool. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: was like that. Then we come together like United Nations, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got every gun and it was like we was
Speaker 1: hanging and being in the same spot. But like me
Speaker 1: and meets was really like like that though, meeting j
Speaker 1: BO like them with my you know, my guys. But again,
Speaker 1: like that's not my story, even when it goes back
Speaker 1: to the fifty Boys and all that stuff, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't even know him then, So that's not said Welcome
Speaker 1: home T. That's right, you said Welcome home T. He said,
Speaker 1: but you said some niggas might owe your money, but
Speaker 1: that ain't me. Yeah, So what was what was that
Speaker 1: line about? Because because there was people putting out narratives
Speaker 1: as if I owed them, Oh, I don't owe them anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I've never done business, that
Speaker 1: type of business with them to owe him anything. So
Speaker 1: I just think the narrative was starting to be, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if it wasn't for that, it would be
Speaker 1: no meeting, know what I'm saying. And I just didn't
Speaker 1: understand that. And I don't really know Tea. I knew
Speaker 1: of Tea because when I was kicking it with meat
Speaker 1: him and Tea with like beef and beefing. Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, And I'm glad they
Speaker 1: worked it out beautiful. But the two times I met
Speaker 1: T was what the two times talked to T was
Speaker 1: the first time I was at a party with puff
Speaker 1: boys in the hood, party in Dallas, and I mean
Speaker 1: there were puff in versus the boys in the hood,
Speaker 1: and somebody come over there, and you know, much of
Speaker 1: being mensane isn't like yo, TI want to talk to you?
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Speaker 1: I'm like all right, cool, what's up? So I go
Speaker 1: over there He's like, Yo, I love I love your music.
Speaker 1: I love what you do fun with it, like keep
Speaker 1: going and that's up, Hub. And that was that. And
Speaker 1: at the second time, he was in the pend and
Speaker 1: some ship happened in the street and he just called
Speaker 1: a check on me, like, yo, you're good. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't even worry about that the boot. And that
Speaker 1: was two only two times, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he came home, um, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I got the call like to you know, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's what's up. But I didn't know him to like
Speaker 1: reach out and be like, yo, you good because I
Speaker 1: didn't know him, you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: do I have love phone? Um oh, you didn't know
Speaker 1: him to be like in his mix, you know, be
Speaker 1: hit me. Of course I'm gonna pick up the phone
Speaker 1: because that's that's the bro. But I didn't know him
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, reaching out saying ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that's real. Let's see. OK, let's move on.
Speaker 1: God damnit smooth ye it's a for sunny Oh yeah no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, Well, um, hold on go Okay, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, So so what what was the situation we
Speaker 1: actually talked about one the time you're here but for
Speaker 1: this episode. But Boys in the Hood and bad Boy
Speaker 1: and your involvement and when you kind of left that situation. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I never left. I was hot as fist, grease,
Speaker 1: Yeah you want me? Like was all the tapes that
Speaker 1: I was passing out out of my far you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and all the promile was doing because
Speaker 1: I started guerrilla marketing, like I really was the one
Speaker 1: out here like pushing the line with like spending its
Speaker 1: own money. I spent, you know, millions to get on
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying before I've seen anything. And um,
Speaker 1: we're boys in the Hood and it's Block Entertainment, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is blocked. So boys in the Hood, Um, God
Speaker 1: blessed dead. Kim Porter, which is a system of mine,
Speaker 1: which is Puffs kids. Mother knew the homie and her
Speaker 1: friend Erica I'm at Ebony sorry, which is my sister
Speaker 1: too hit me and it was like, Yo, you gotta
Speaker 1: come by the studio. Puff got this group. He wants
Speaker 1: you to do a song. So I went in the
Speaker 1: first song I ever did was them boys by the way,
Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm still not a rapper. I'm still
Speaker 1: ride rund in that Ferrari with a half a million
Speaker 1: in the front of you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a rapper. So I get in the room
Speaker 1: with these guys and they're doing this song, them boys,
Speaker 1: and I'm not a rapper, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm in here with people who like spitting balls,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it took me like
Speaker 1: an hour and a half to just write my verse,
Speaker 1: and it took me like another hour to put it
Speaker 1: down because I'm not so familiar with the studio. So
Speaker 1: by that time, everybody walked down because Trick was there,
Speaker 1: Jazzy Favor was there, and everybody was there, and I
Speaker 1: remember them like, you know, people in the hallway talking
Speaker 1: shit like man, he whack. So I remember I put
Speaker 1: it down and I walked down the hallway and told
Speaker 1: him to play it. And it was like, if it's
Speaker 1: taken too long to lock up. By the time the
Speaker 1: fourth bar, can't everybody that was outside the Talking Ship
Speaker 1: was in the studio going crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I told y'all you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But what happened was, you know, I was
Speaker 1: about my business earlier and I didn't need anything from anyone.
Speaker 1: And when Kevin Allows and l A Re signed me,
Speaker 1: the deaf jam Kevin left two weeks after he signed
Speaker 1: me to Atlantic to Atlantic Kevin Lows, and they never
Speaker 1: told me who the next president was gonna be. So
Speaker 1: when I was walking to deav Gym to go to
Speaker 1: the building, I've seen this black may back pull up
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting down. You know, you're running your credentials,
Speaker 1: So you get the past, give me d and the
Speaker 1: door open in his hole. He's like, yo, jeezus, what's up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up? You know what I'm saying. Hey,
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm onna walk up with me. You knew
Speaker 1: him to that. I've seen it, but not like that.
Speaker 1: We had no conversation in that little area that you
Speaker 1: put your idea, your security guard to get you a
Speaker 1: little bass. They say just such, and and said walk
Speaker 1: up with he already he was already to presidence in it.
Speaker 1: He said, you know I'm up here. I got you, okay.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: love Kevin lis mcdamn. You know this s started to
Speaker 1: make sense, Okay what I'm saying so um So when
Speaker 1: I got a hole, I instantly realized because I love Puppa.
Speaker 1: You know, I was. I had a little man syndrome
Speaker 1: back then. So every time I was around Puff, I
Speaker 1: was trying to show him I got the same watch
Speaker 1: you say that my whole thing. I'm like, my chest
Speaker 1: was out, and he was just like, yo, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So he was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: so it took Jay. He was like it, what's going
Speaker 1: on with you? And you know what I'm saying, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta know that U and not the whole time
Speaker 1: I'm talking shit, I'm not realizing that Puff is on
Speaker 1: the other end of the pool table. I didn't know
Speaker 1: you was playing pool? No, no, so no, this is
Speaker 1: like one day it was in He's like, what's going
Speaker 1: on with you? You know? You know I'm getting money?
Speaker 1: Well you know how that is? You street guy? You
Speaker 1: feel like get money close to Jay Z down, it's
Speaker 1: like you're ready to go to war for for no reason,
Speaker 1: like you cool whatever. He's like, yeah, yeah, that's my man.
Speaker 1: And he was like and then he's like Puffs on
Speaker 1: the other end of the table. So me and Puff
Speaker 1: had already done the Boys in the Hood deal, but
Speaker 1: it was like it was a lot of things that
Speaker 1: happened during the deal that kind of like made me
Speaker 1: feel different, Like meaning like I'm going to Magic City
Speaker 1: and Puff is calling my phone to sign the deal
Speaker 1: for Boys in the Hood, but I'm telling them going
Speaker 1: to Matton City and he's calling my phone back to
Speaker 1: back and he like, go to Kinko's and signed the
Speaker 1: contract and send it back like with the Facts machine.
Speaker 1: By the way, kids used to go ship So for
Speaker 1: those of the Xerox, that's how you caught me something, right.
Speaker 1: So so so now I'm like, y'all ain't going to
Speaker 1: key cards. I gave you over there, so you know,
Speaker 1: I just had a tip on my shoulda. And it
Speaker 1: was when Jay was like yo, man, like you know,
Speaker 1: he sat me and Puff down, we just you know talk,
Speaker 1: you know. So I got a chance to really know
Speaker 1: because I didn't really I knew him, but I knew
Speaker 1: him through like meeting up so I only saw him
Speaker 1: in club setting. So I was like, I'm a street guy.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna respect me. That was my whole
Speaker 1: inmo with any rapper or any entertainer because it was
Speaker 1: just like, I'm risking my life out here. Y'all ain't
Speaker 1: going through this ship. So anyway, puff Um and Jay
Speaker 1: sit there and I go, look, man, i want to
Speaker 1: do the Puff deal, but I'm only gonna do one album.
Speaker 1: I gave Puff a number and he was cool that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And me and Puff been
Speaker 1: cool every since. That's my bro, like we chopped up
Speaker 1: my business, spirituality whatever. But he was like, I ain't cool.
Speaker 1: And now I got puffing Jay in the same room
Speaker 1: and they agreeing to let me do this Boys in
Speaker 1: the Hood album only one album pushed the Motivation back,
Speaker 1: which is highly anticipated for a month your first album,
Speaker 1: my first album, right, the Motivation one on one. So
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm coming off a trapper die and
Speaker 1: I'm using them boys is another marketing peace, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So now I got two deals and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm building this momentum that that was my mindset
Speaker 1: so right, and with the guys you know, and no
Speaker 1: disrespect to them. I just think that was a little
Speaker 1: more season when it came from business because I came
Speaker 1: out of the streets and I was used to dealing
Speaker 1: with said the guys boyhood, so they didn't understand, you
Speaker 1: know what I was doing because I'm thinking business. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get the records, and I also knew that them
Speaker 1: boys was a hit. It's like like you like going
Speaker 1: for the selfish move or like I think that if
Speaker 1: I'm honest, and they probably tasted. I think it's been
Speaker 1: some situations where I kind of tried to put them
Speaker 1: on the game, but they probably looked at me like
Speaker 1: I was separating the group and you really wasn't the
Speaker 1: officially wrapper at that time year. I was the street
Speaker 1: guy who just had one good verse on the whole
Speaker 1: project and on the tour like like I was on
Speaker 1: too with Jody Brees. Jody Breese was the guy like
Speaker 1: all the girls left Jody like the bus like damn,
Speaker 1: Like I got on the Town Dollar roll, like you'll
Speaker 1: see this what's going on? But before you continue because
Speaker 1: I also worked the Bad Boy Records and he he
Speaker 1: was on or once a part of the street team too,
Speaker 1: and we ye, they was pushing we was the Miami
Speaker 1: Street Team. I was running down here and they were like, okay,
Speaker 1: there is a South record, y'all gotta push this. But
Speaker 1: there seemed to be some confusion when that record came,
Speaker 1: because if it was like you're on you're in the group,
Speaker 1: you're not in the group, and I don't I don't
Speaker 1: remember clearly how it was the timeline back that the group. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm record, yeah, the record? What the thing
Speaker 1: was that? Rightfully? So, I'm my own boss because I'm
Speaker 1: pressing on my own CDs. I'm paying for my own stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm signed to death. Cham Um, I got a public
Speaker 1: in situation. You asked Big John, He'll tell you John
Speaker 1: that money, man, I didn't even cash my def Jam
Speaker 1: and my Publician check. You understand, I'm saying, like I
Speaker 1: just had these checks in my house. What what the
Speaker 1: Publicisan check I lost in a pair of jeans, which
Speaker 1: was crazy because I had to figure that out because
Speaker 1: I didn't know. And then I had, um, you know,
Speaker 1: my def jam check that I didn't even cash because
Speaker 1: I had bread. And I remember Jay called me one day,
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, what are you doing? Okay, okay, did
Speaker 1: you lose the Publicisan checking? You you don't even remember?
Speaker 1: You know? I lost it? And then I called Big
Speaker 1: John shout out the big John he had check. Again,
Speaker 1: he didn't understand what the hill because nobody can't take
Speaker 1: that check in cash. But I'm gonna be honest. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a street guy. I had my money bags. I
Speaker 1: thought when he gave me the check that it was
Speaker 1: already somewhere. I need to go pick it up. I
Speaker 1: didn't know about Baker and it was a huge check
Speaker 1: check and me and John laugh about that, you know,
Speaker 1: just anyway. But the reality of it is I didn't
Speaker 1: discuss with the guys what I was doing on the
Speaker 1: business side, so they probably felt like that I was
Speaker 1: being selfish. But I had a plan, feeled me, and
Speaker 1: that was my plan because that was never really officially
Speaker 1: a group I had to get. I was. I was
Speaker 1: getting a label deal with Death Jam, which was CT
Speaker 1: then shout out to the new deal Corporate Thugs Entertainment.
Speaker 1: But but but I had a plan, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to just be in a group, you said, saying,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to break my own artists and do
Speaker 1: my own things. So again communication, I didn't talk to
Speaker 1: them and say, look, this is what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1: I was more so like I'm gonna do this, you know,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta figure this out. That's you know, probably why
Speaker 1: you know it kind of went a little left and
Speaker 1: to make it up, Mark, but I was working in
Speaker 1: death jammers, so then we're working Oh my god, he's
Speaker 1: working bad boy and okay, use one of them type
Speaker 1: of both sides in the middle. I'm taking a shot.
Speaker 1: It's hard. Don't drink that ship. I'm sorry, keep going,
Speaker 1: I keep going that man, Well, I'm sorry. I just
Speaker 1: this is a great joke, that's all. So I got
Speaker 1: the word that you're doing a new album. I'm saying
Speaker 1: I feel like Jesus got all the accolades, got all
Speaker 1: the success, got all the money, beautiful family, beautiful wife.
Speaker 1: Why even come outside, like why not staying eat peaches
Speaker 1: all day? Watermelon? You love it that I did that, though, Man,
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not for feeling like that. Bro, I
Speaker 1: don't like. I gotta be happy. This is my this
Speaker 1: is my purpose. It ain't even about the money no more.
Speaker 1: It's about like I know what any about the money.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's about like, you know, even for the
Speaker 1: younger generation coming up, it's like, this is what you
Speaker 1: do when you're fifteen twenty years in you still you know,
Speaker 1: you're still who you are, but you've got a bigger
Speaker 1: mindset as you lead by example. And one thing about it,
Speaker 1: I lived enough in the streets to talk about it
Speaker 1: forever because because the game don't change, it's just only
Speaker 1: the players and the same thing. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like for me, you know, I ain't trying to preach
Speaker 1: and nothing, but I'm like, I got a few people
Speaker 1: that I respect, and I could sit the mentors and
Speaker 1: we don't even communicate on the mental levels, just like
Speaker 1: I just talked to him about things, but I love
Speaker 1: the way they moved. So for me, it's just like
Speaker 1: I want to show these cats, even fifteen twenty years
Speaker 1: in the game, you still get moved. Like I'm well
Speaker 1: aware of my surrounds. I can tell you right now
Speaker 1: how many black T shirts over there who got white
Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying. I know you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's who I am. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, with what what keeps me ful Field is
Speaker 1: to be able to connect with people from a personal level.
Speaker 1: Like on the way over here, I had used the bathroom,
Speaker 1: I opt out of the Walgreens on where that was that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right in the middle of
Speaker 1: the hood before I could even get to the door. Everybody, jeezus,
Speaker 1: that's what I do it for because they love me,
Speaker 1: because I have values, I have integrity, and I have
Speaker 1: and I'm a visionary, Like I have a vision that
Speaker 1: street people want to have me. They want to come
Speaker 1: from somewhere, accomplish something and then take that in the
Speaker 1: compass something else. So even when I came in the game,
Speaker 1: you know, I only started rapping because I already knew
Speaker 1: what the streets was gonna do. But I'm not the
Speaker 1: best rapper nor ever I ever claimed to be, because
Speaker 1: if you really know about it, like music is my
Speaker 1: talent because I you know, jumped in the head first
Speaker 1: and figured it out. But business is my passion. I
Speaker 1: always wanted to do this and this and real estate
Speaker 1: and that and be able to sit here and have
Speaker 1: a real conversation about my business. Like when I say
Speaker 1: I only have for Atlanta, No, I'm yeah that serious.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah for Shore City blocks asks about me? Yeah
Speaker 1: straight up. LLLC, Yeah, that's all day. LLC on you
Speaker 1: when outside takes to come on, let's do it solo
Speaker 1: solo so cheers. Sticking to that subject real quick. A
Speaker 1: lot of people were shocked. I don't know if if
Speaker 1: you ever did an interview since this, a lot of
Speaker 1: people were shocked when they announced that you was even
Speaker 1: doing the verses right, not only are you doing the verses,
Speaker 1: but then who you was doing the verses against. I
Speaker 1: think the industry was just like, wow, I didn't you know.
Speaker 1: I remember me calling Swiss and me asking like for
Speaker 1: inside information, like sure this just can actually go down,
Speaker 1: and Swiss is like they had a private meeting. It
Speaker 1: was Was that true that you had a private meeting
Speaker 1: prior to that? I wouldn't lie. I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, okay, because it just had to be
Speaker 1: some understanding. Okay, you know what I'm saying, and there's
Speaker 1: so much history and that you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And for me, I just wanted to believe that weight
Speaker 1: all myself, because you know, contrary to people's beliefs, it
Speaker 1: ain't what they think. The whole situation however, it's that too,
Speaker 1: but values and morals, meaning that if I would say
Speaker 1: what really happened, I gotta throw somebody under the bus
Speaker 1: that I love. You know what I'm saying, like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do that, so I had to wear that
Speaker 1: for fifteen years. So I'm just like, yo, at least musically,
Speaker 1: let's put this shit in the space where that part
Speaker 1: is at least good, just out of respect and and
Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought it was a game,
Speaker 1: but it is for the culture. It's like, Yo, that's
Speaker 1: unfinished business. But it is what it is. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to what we do is as far as
Speaker 1: leaders leadership, like it has to be some type of
Speaker 1: understanding or we're gonna be extinct out here, bro, Like
Speaker 1: you know rap It is like I'm like you, like
Speaker 1: why I come outside? You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: still had a better chance going to Iraq. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying That in the rapper in today's world,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it has to start somewhere,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Again, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the type of person to preaching teach, but I
Speaker 1: feel like that moment just had to happen. People had
Speaker 1: to see us in the same room, and I'll be
Speaker 1: lying to say that we haven't seen each other, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Or rang that right, and like
Speaker 1: we both like, you know what I'm saying, because it's
Speaker 1: been so long, so many conversations, so much miscommunication, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know, if if you
Speaker 1: saw it, you know it's for your you know how
Speaker 1: many people and by the way, like Swiss need to
Speaker 1: talk to us because that was the highest view versus
Speaker 1: and as I can remember, right after that, they saw
Speaker 1: that ship, the Triuler, So yeah, Swiss and you know
Speaker 1: we're out here, baby, Yeah, let's be real. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like you know, I can't speak on the real ship.
Speaker 1: But what I can't say is at this point in
Speaker 1: the game, you know, you don't work this hard to
Speaker 1: get here, and everybody got ship to lose, now, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, a life that they always dreamed of.
Speaker 1: Just like, let's let's do the artist ship first and
Speaker 1: then everything else. So let me ask and you could
Speaker 1: answer this how you want to. So in this private meeting,
Speaker 1: was it discussed that you know that the Hill might
Speaker 1: say something that's going too far and you can say
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Was that discussed? All that was not discussed.
Speaker 1: It was just to see if we can sit in
Speaker 1: the same room, but the details wasn't was kind of
Speaker 1: sort of but now, but if you know, homie, you
Speaker 1: already know, like it's just what it is, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I kind of felt like it wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna go that way just based off what it was,
Speaker 1: because you're talking about some ship that happened, you know,
Speaker 1: so long ago on the streets that you finally getting
Speaker 1: a chance to be face to face, and it's taking
Speaker 1: uh Magic City for one, that was happening in magazine
Speaker 1: City for one, Apple for two, Switched Beats for three,
Speaker 1: Timberland for four. Talking when you say Apple, you're talking
Speaker 1: about a multip billion dollar company almost taking a risk
Speaker 1: on with two of them. Stacy Abrams came on and
Speaker 1: spoke before for that give me give a set up
Speaker 1: and stare because that way you'd never been bad for
Speaker 1: the campaign, and because it was crazy, because I see
Speaker 1: how calm you were. Almost was like and and again
Speaker 1: I'm outside of the that's an inside of us looking
Speaker 1: in from the outside. Um, it almost felt like you expected.
Speaker 1: It almost felt like I don't want to say you
Speaker 1: expected or you kind of knew that women beating honest
Speaker 1: with you, like, yeah, just giving the history of who
Speaker 1: he was were, I know he didn't know what they
Speaker 1: expect and I didn't even the because you know, like
Speaker 1: when you're pulling up and you know everybody out there
Speaker 1: with you guys, you know, semimachine, guns and tactics and
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's like, you know, it's like putting,
Speaker 1: you know, ship putting in the room with whoever they're
Speaker 1: beating within the UK just because you don't nine times
Speaker 1: out of ten it don't be you, but somebody is
Speaker 1: with you. It's just like nah, so nobody knew what
Speaker 1: they expect. But I can't tell you this again. This
Speaker 1: is what respect come in. And people who do it
Speaker 1: right shout out to Magic because Magic is a legend.
Speaker 1: He was one of the first people that one of
Speaker 1: the owns Magic City. But he's like our uncle. You
Speaker 1: don't disrespect Magic, you just do it because he's such
Speaker 1: a solid guy. What I'm saying. And it's just like
Speaker 1: if we was cousins and we had a disagreement, it's
Speaker 1: like being with your uncle, I'm gonna talk first, you
Speaker 1: know if you don't work out after that handy business,
Speaker 1: but not here, So it was that. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, um, nobody knew what Dick's fact. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I was watching the
Speaker 1: Apple people. They were sweating. I was like, look, I
Speaker 1: was watching people there was supposed to be with me,
Speaker 1: like sliding over people supposed to be with him side.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew what side of standing up like I was home.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but but but you know,
Speaker 1: one time for the music man, because you know I
Speaker 1: haven't said and done. That's gonna be a part of
Speaker 1: history there everybody I don't remember, but it just had
Speaker 1: to happen, bro, Like, you gotta be the first too,
Speaker 1: you know what they say. To be a true leader,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta stand out there before anybody else
Speaker 1: doing take that lead, because you could have woke up
Speaker 1: tomorrow and they's been like, I'm good on home just
Speaker 1: because of that. You know what I'm saying, but you
Speaker 1: know it. And then ya actually did a tour together
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah that's the thing. It's just like but
Speaker 1: he apologized after that. Yeah, but I mean, but but
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if this is right the same,
Speaker 1: But I'm just you how I'm on it. You know,
Speaker 1: he hit me because it was basically my tour. I
Speaker 1: was the front run. I was the first person on
Speaker 1: the tour and he hit me. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: get on this tour and you know, how have you
Speaker 1: taken I'm to be honest. You know where bro, I
Speaker 1: never blocked how you feed your family? It is what
Speaker 1: it is. I see that's after person. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 1: What was that? But but I had to give that
Speaker 1: call because they weren't gonna let that go on if
Speaker 1: I said no, Well I was front run and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't never get between you and your money. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I think we got know what I'm saying that because
Speaker 1: I think I think and y'all cord you like it's listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: we we we um. It's in the space where we
Speaker 1: can we can coexist, and I think that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: Like looking for Yeah, nobody's looking for you know. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like before that. We was hanging out every day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, well what makes
Speaker 1: some nuch for growth back listen, real ship. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna bounce aroun. I'm gonn I'm gonna get back to
Speaker 1: um therapy for my soul. Okay, Oh it's a good Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You said something that we just had. The megoes up
Speaker 1: here and he said something about coach k right. You're
Speaker 1: on coach k right. Um, what exactly what you're saying
Speaker 1: right there? I'm saying that again, you know, communicating is key, right,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that when money is at plate and there's
Speaker 1: not the right type of communication, the lines team that
Speaker 1: seem to get blurred, and if you're not And this
Speaker 1: is another thing I want to say, and it's for
Speaker 1: anybody that's coming up in the game. There's no handbook
Speaker 1: or no template of how to do this ship. You
Speaker 1: give it your all, your risk of life, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you wake up and your multimlion
Speaker 1: more power than you can grasp. And and and if
Speaker 1: you come for one from you already got your own trauma.
Speaker 1: People to them, try to do things to you, funk
Speaker 1: over you, all these different things. So I'm dealing I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with that one question. He's dealing with, dealing with
Speaker 1: artists that went left um, but at the same time
Speaker 1: he's part of your management. At first at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, Coach came to Like the craziest thing is
Speaker 1: Coach came to the studio because Dallas also studio in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Because back then I was driving the g S four
Speaker 1: dred Lexus I had, I was iced out and I
Speaker 1: was spending cash money to get the studio and he
Speaker 1: was hearing about that, and that's how he came to
Speaker 1: the studio and started to be friend me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then over time he was just
Speaker 1: like somebody around it. I could be like, yo, can
Speaker 1: you take care of this? And he was doing it.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, he's great at what he does.
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of conversations that didn't happen
Speaker 1: before the fame and the money came under understanding. It's
Speaker 1: like getting into a marriage and you don't talk about
Speaker 1: what are the yeah right, what are the things that
Speaker 1: are deal breakers? And you know what what things you
Speaker 1: don't want because it's now it's a relationship. And for me,
Speaker 1: I'm a street guy. If you do anything that seems
Speaker 1: questionable to me, then I just know how to handle it.
Speaker 1: How I handle it, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: again that ain't with the best communication. Ther lationship was
Speaker 1: what coach. It wasn't never Pete Pete. Now I didn't
Speaker 1: know p O. I only only knew Pe when him
Speaker 1: and co star, Right, OK, So just to get some
Speaker 1: clarity to it, some things went on. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: sound quite sure he would say different, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, as he should, but I just you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't trust a lot of things that And again
Speaker 1: there's no handbook for this, so I don't even know
Speaker 1: how it's supposed to go. I'm just understanding what I'm assuming.
Speaker 1: And so if you're not communicating with some and it's
Speaker 1: not going how you wanted to go, of course you're
Speaker 1: gonna be like yo, like I ain't rocking like that.
Speaker 1: And then he probably thought, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: ain't going high he wanted to go. So if you
Speaker 1: ain't have no understanding going into this, and it's like
Speaker 1: right now, we we're sitting here and we're drinking and
Speaker 1: we're having fun, and we got a podcast, and this
Speaker 1: ship just blow out of the roof and then somebody
Speaker 1: just come drop this big bag of money on the table.
Speaker 1: But we but we ain't talked about you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I'm like, yo, I'm spending millions like
Speaker 1: I'm not fifty, but sitting or doing like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like the risk of my life. And
Speaker 1: he's like yo, but I you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So there was never no issue that we couldn't resolve.
Speaker 1: But I just think when it wasn't talked about pre
Speaker 1: right money and pre success, it's like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of expectations there, and you know how to go with expectations,
Speaker 1: you know, if if it ain't what you want, you
Speaker 1: to feel that down. So and I still got love
Speaker 1: for coach, Like I'm happy he's successful. I'm happy he's
Speaker 1: done what he did. I hear people all the time
Speaker 1: he's ain't putting nobody on but just looking around coaches
Speaker 1: on done, Canda Zone, Drama Zone, so, the Red Zone,
Speaker 1: the Drummer boy Zone, Justice League Zone. These all people
Speaker 1: that I dealt with before anybody else that listen, let's
Speaker 1: go to death jam is on. I did a feature
Speaker 1: for my you know time over I did a feature
Speaker 1: for every artists over there, including Rihanna, Kanye, we like
Speaker 1: you name it. There's nobody I ain't touched over there.
Speaker 1: It's just that I didn't want the money for myself
Speaker 1: because I'm a hustler, so I'm gonna do what I
Speaker 1: do for me. I don't have to do coming to
Speaker 1: this podcast and see how successful is and try to
Speaker 1: pull you to the side and go let making this
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, because I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm happy for them. I'm happy for DJ
Speaker 1: Drama and all the success and the things that they're
Speaker 1: doing to my brothers. I want to see him sign
Speaker 1: and it's better that we didn't do business with each
Speaker 1: other because I love him. But you know, light skin
Speaker 1: Nig is different. Brother. I'm telling y'all steaking to the
Speaker 1: class sometimes. But but we're going on to be crazy.
Speaker 1: I love him and that's why we can come back
Speaker 1: now with all our success, all the ship that we
Speaker 1: got going on and still do some amazing like Snowfall.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because now we're in a
Speaker 1: different space and it ain't it ain't out of desperation.
Speaker 1: It's for the love, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: for like, yeah, you know this is and the reason
Speaker 1: why I really wanted to do this project with him
Speaker 1: because I don't want expect taxes. I want to do
Speaker 1: what was drama. This is Snowfalls. Snowfall is me and
Speaker 1: DJ Drama. That's a mixtape or this is what I
Speaker 1: would call it a street album. And it's for my
Speaker 1: Day one and Don Cannon is exactive producer. And I
Speaker 1: got all my guys on there, that number one fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I got all my all my producers that I love,
Speaker 1: you know, the Justice Leagues, the d Riches, that all
Speaker 1: those guys that I love, and I just wanted to
Speaker 1: get in and do something I wanted to do with
Speaker 1: no expectations, meaning that I don't have to put no
Speaker 1: you know, no top ten record on it. I want
Speaker 1: to talk crazy. You know it's Curls Ship. I'm back
Speaker 1: talking crazy. You know what I'm saying, ice Cube. When
Speaker 1: you say as cool, I'm back, don't know what a yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget, keep for getting, keep good. You gotta hear
Speaker 1: a good. Our demographics keep getting younger and younger. Young
Speaker 1: niggas saying what's up, Nori. I'm like Walmart Nick better
Speaker 1: not know why not we are live? You on your
Speaker 1: parents is crazy? You know? But um, let's move to
Speaker 1: put on. How did you and Kanye link up for that? Okay?
Speaker 1: So this true story. So Kanye did this record that
Speaker 1: was on the recessing because he said he's a fan.
Speaker 1: He knows. So there's a record on Recession called I
Speaker 1: Got Money with Me and t I. I put Kanye on.
Speaker 1: I send the record to Kanye. It's like, we can
Speaker 1: have before the album had to be turned in, right,
Speaker 1: and he says the record back a totally different record.
Speaker 1: He says it back with if you remember the record.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so I gotta turn it in. But his
Speaker 1: verse sounds like a totally different song. So I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't use it. I just gotta keep me and
Speaker 1: Tip on it. And he was like all right. Cool.
Speaker 1: So about six months go by, you called me out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. What are you doing? He said, kind of
Speaker 1: talked to you for a man. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. He goes, uh, you remember that song you
Speaker 1: did that I did for you. I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to keep it. I said yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1: He said, who produced it? And I told him that
Speaker 1: to produced it. He asked me for too Snumber. I
Speaker 1: gave him to Snumber. So that's what big brother. All
Speaker 1: those records he had on the album came from Tom.
Speaker 1: So I put to Kanye with right, yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying he produced, So I put him with and
Speaker 1: and he called me after the fact he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: do you mind if I keep your adlets? Or? This
Speaker 1: is why I know he's genius. He said, do you
Speaker 1: mind if I keep your ad libs on it? I'm
Speaker 1: in passing. I'm not even thinking. I'm like whatever, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the song comes out huge, like I'm not even
Speaker 1: expecting this, but my ad libs are in the song.
Speaker 1: So everybody listened to the song on the radio. Wait
Speaker 1: for my birth to come in. Yes. So everybody's calling
Speaker 1: me like, yo, there's this song out. It sounds like
Speaker 1: you're about to wrap it. You don't wrap. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's Kanye's record. So anyway, long story short, I going
Speaker 1: to London to do a show. I go, I go
Speaker 1: on to eight. I think Kanye goes on a ten.
Speaker 1: The first record he does in front of eighty thou
Speaker 1: people is um, wait till I get my money right,
Speaker 1: I'm watching eighty tho people. Uh, it's crazy. I look
Speaker 1: at because jay Z and Beyonce there and I look
Speaker 1: at him. I said, I think I funked up. He's like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I said, I gave Kanye that
Speaker 1: record I didn't know and he was like, yeah, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying. So now I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn so and at this time, not not needed it.
Speaker 1: It's not the one, So I never forget. I was
Speaker 1: trying to call Kanye. I had this record call put
Speaker 1: on and I was trying to call Kanye and I
Speaker 1: couldn't get him on the phone. I called l a read.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna call him for you. Called me
Speaker 1: with Kanye in the phone. He said, Yo, Kanye, want
Speaker 1: to talk to you. He got on the phone. This
Speaker 1: is when his mother passed and he hadn't done any
Speaker 1: record system and we talked. We had a real conversation.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna do it for you. So I
Speaker 1: sent him. I told him what put on me and
Speaker 1: in the South in Atlanta, he was like a word
Speaker 1: and then I sent him the song and then he
Speaker 1: called me back on his own line. He was wrapping
Speaker 1: me the verse. But you know, I'm like, go put
Speaker 1: it down, go do it now, like, don't wrap it
Speaker 1: on the phone and he went and put it down
Speaker 1: and he sent it to me. And I'm getting ready
Speaker 1: to go out out of town to do some shows
Speaker 1: for the weekend. Um, and I got all my homies
Speaker 1: on the tour bus. So it's like twenty of us
Speaker 1: on the tour bus, so a lot of choppers, a
Speaker 1: lot of choppers. And I and I gave it to
Speaker 1: V one on three to Gregg Street, right, but I
Speaker 1: didn't tell nobody Kanye was on the song. They heard
Speaker 1: the song in the studio, but nobody knew Kanye was
Speaker 1: on the song. So we're on the tour bus and
Speaker 1: we headed out of town and Greg Street brings the
Speaker 1: song back like a hundred times. I mean, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: And when everybody heard Kanye West, I just I watched
Speaker 1: their eyes because you know, you would you would think
Speaker 1: like and I knew right then and was hit and
Speaker 1: I never forget bro. I was like, we're back on
Speaker 1: We're back in the game. And I remember Ellie calling
Speaker 1: me like, man, he did it again, this is crazy
Speaker 1: and uh number one, and then Drake hopped on the remix.
Speaker 1: We did that on BT and the rest of his history. Man,
Speaker 1: and probably to be honest with you, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's probably one of Kanye's best verses ever. It was
Speaker 1: so crazy that jay Z got on it the remix
Speaker 1: if you remember, Yeah, so yeah, he had a record
Speaker 1: with Drake Kanye and Drake got on I Do with
Speaker 1: Andre three thousand and Jay C and I. You don't
Speaker 1: believe that I say that, go here there on Snowfall
Speaker 1: I got. I got more records with jay Z than
Speaker 1: Biggie Small. Let's be clear, you feel me, Let's be
Speaker 1: clear what I'm saying. Let's be clear. Ship that is crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yeah, So who's your inspiration? On Bars?
Speaker 1: You're saying you didn't come in as an artist, so
Speaker 1: you say, but you obviously got You said you got
Speaker 1: hold on a new Snowfall to No, No, No, Nona.
Speaker 1: You got more records, and I got more records with
Speaker 1: jay Z than he does with Biggie Small, for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna give us somebody that song Snowfall. Hey man,
Speaker 1: let me finish my question. Goddamn bad guy. Tell me
Speaker 1: you inspired by Bar Smiths. You have to be, because
Speaker 1: you're doing bars. You're saying you're not. You didn't come
Speaker 1: in as an artist like that, but you am seeing right.
Speaker 1: I think it's because of my love for music. But um,
Speaker 1: every morning before school I listened to all MASTERP, A, B,
Speaker 1: M j G. But my favorite was Tupac and more
Speaker 1: of my favorite was Tupac and still is to these days.
Speaker 1: Because he stood for something. He had values, he had morals,
Speaker 1: he had integrity, and I had never seen that before
Speaker 1: because my uncles are still twenty dollars out of socks.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, People that I respect. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying was taken from you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't get any information out of him. So
Speaker 1: how I learned how to survive and navigate through the streets.
Speaker 1: And I want to say that because even when these
Speaker 1: guys is coming up, you know, nine of ten percent
Speaker 1: of it is music, of it is surviving and survival
Speaker 1: and navigating through what's going on. And the reason why
Speaker 1: I was able to navigate through a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but because I listened to Tupac as if he was
Speaker 1: like that was my bibles, how I knew how to
Speaker 1: handle sit in situations and it was embedter than me.
Speaker 1: And it's just like, you know, he was a revolutionary
Speaker 1: before I knew what that was like he actually had
Speaker 1: He's still something and and and and he would take
Speaker 1: those risks when everybody around me was so used to
Speaker 1: how they was living that they didn't want to try
Speaker 1: to live any better. And I was like, with Ship,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go take some risk. So my my
Speaker 1: bible at that time, you know, no dispect to the
Speaker 1: big homie was every Tupac our I would give by
Speaker 1: myself the home never I ain't never heard that, but
Speaker 1: I listened to um Tupac every morning before school. And
Speaker 1: when I made my assistant to drop out of school
Speaker 1: in the sixth grade, I did that knowing that I
Speaker 1: had to make away from my mom and my sister.
Speaker 1: But I did that knowing that Tupac did what he
Speaker 1: had to do. Sixth grade. Yeah, yeah, sixth grade. I
Speaker 1: got my g D. When I was locked up. I
Speaker 1: got one on you one once. I got one over alright,
Speaker 1: we went away. I heard what you said when you
Speaker 1: receive your award. He said, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can read it's real, Ship. Seriously, I got lawyers, don't
Speaker 1: know if not your Yeah, the question mark after he's trying.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, this is so great. Man. Okay,
Speaker 1: sole Survivor feature at a calm A calm. Okay, shout
Speaker 1: out to Boucon. But by the way, you see Acorn
Speaker 1: new cut. We got to talk about this, his new
Speaker 1: haircuting his Barbara don't like him. Man, It's like, what's
Speaker 1: the African man? You gotta getting a pass. Let's do
Speaker 1: what did over there? I respect, I know that this
Speaker 1: is this. That's somebody we could have the first question man,
Speaker 1: like somebody put a bowl on your ship and you
Speaker 1: just cut around and like a car. You gotta get
Speaker 1: your life together. You gotta way too much money. And
Speaker 1: I think that might be Beijing patch. I think that's
Speaker 1: just going on. I said when I first came, my friend,
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak on nobody else, but you
Speaker 1: know this is true. Noticed what I'm taking a shot
Speaker 1: for that. Let me know what part are you taking
Speaker 1: a shot for the patch? Let me know what I
Speaker 1: want to know too. Yeah, he coming on. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 1: We had you coming on and then as we have
Speaker 1: you going up, they said, um um, so I just
Speaker 1: kept saying I'm gonna tell you that though, okay, pop
Speaker 1: it so boom, God bless you Dad Shkire Stewart Um
Speaker 1: A and R and confident at the time in bookon
Speaker 1: Bootcon is a cons brother, Yes, right, and they knocked
Speaker 1: out show. I don't know, yeah, I mean if he
Speaker 1: did yeah. Um. But Boom called me and I was
Speaker 1: a passwords working literally working, you know, I was doing
Speaker 1: both of my jobs. I was recording and um, and
Speaker 1: he said, I got this CD for you, the A
Speaker 1: content and he brought it over there and this was
Speaker 1: what CDs was A can already got locked up out already, okay,
Speaker 1: so you bring me the CD, and um, it's six
Speaker 1: songs on it. So I put it in. I listened
Speaker 1: to all six songs and the last one was Sole
Speaker 1: Survivor and I just started touring around with it because
Speaker 1: I had a party that night at Visions, and I
Speaker 1: told around whe I put the first verse on it,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just kicking this more. We doing
Speaker 1: what I do. And then Shakire pulls up because he's
Speaker 1: coming to the party with us. Shaquire was a vice
Speaker 1: president of Dead to him at the time, and he said,
Speaker 1: what you're working on? I played him Soul Survival. He's like, yo, guys,
Speaker 1: this this is it. This is I'm just like but
Speaker 1: at the top I had like trapped out, so I
Speaker 1: wasn't even thinking like that, and um, I thought it
Speaker 1: was a crossover record and I didn't want to do
Speaker 1: one of those. So we go to the party, We
Speaker 1: turned up, we drink, We come back and Shaquire goes,
Speaker 1: why don't you picking us the record that she was
Speaker 1: working on ACoM because I didn't have nothing to work on,
Speaker 1: so I knocked the record out. It was done right.
Speaker 1: He heard, He was like, yo, this is crazy. I
Speaker 1: didn't think none of it. Fast forward, there's an intern
Speaker 1: at Pats work. We'll talk about the lawsuit later because
Speaker 1: I hadn had my business. There's studio that's with studio's
Speaker 1: intern there that wanted me to use his beats for
Speaker 1: Thug Motivation. One on one. I didn't use his beats.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about masters back then, so I was
Speaker 1: just recording and leaving all my tapes and all my
Speaker 1: stuff at the studio. He gets all my songs, puts
Speaker 1: his beat on the frost. That's how we knew he
Speaker 1: did it. He puts his beat first like it's just instrumental,
Speaker 1: and then my whole album and then he leaves it.
Speaker 1: So Thug Motivation got leaked like four months before we're
Speaker 1: supposed to come out. So but I'm with the wrong
Speaker 1: beat stuffs with all the songs. Every song you heard
Speaker 1: on th Movace was on this leak. So now I'm
Speaker 1: like halfway in, halfway out the streets. My man called me,
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, your album's leaked, and I think I
Speaker 1: knew who did it. So I jumped in my Porsch
Speaker 1: truck drive down to the studio. I got my a
Speaker 1: k this is this is no line. So they got
Speaker 1: him pinning up at the studio and I get there
Speaker 1: and my man like, y'all gonna just, you know, run
Speaker 1: from up. I said, no, I'm about to, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, because now I'm thinking I gotta
Speaker 1: go back to the streets. Already went cold turkey. Ill
Speaker 1: don't told people. They don't even owe me the money
Speaker 1: that they owed me. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so now now this is it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: On top of the fact that right before I turned
Speaker 1: the al Men, I told my vocal cords, so I
Speaker 1: didn't even know if I was gonna be at the
Speaker 1: talk again because I had to have surgery, so I
Speaker 1: didn't even know if my voice was gonna be the same,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And we'll talk about that too.
Speaker 1: But and um so I get there, you know, I
Speaker 1: draw down on me and Slick pull it in up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, being the brakes off of them.
Speaker 1: I gotta go through this whole lawsuit, but I had
Speaker 1: to pay them and to getting the big homie. The
Speaker 1: best thing to ever happened to me because at that
Speaker 1: time there was the biggest bootlegging ring going on in
Speaker 1: the world in Atlanta. Like it was bootlegg and everything
Speaker 1: you can think, like it was busting bootlegs. So me
Speaker 1: and Slick Puller and a few of my homies rode
Speaker 1: around for at least three weeks with three vans a
Speaker 1: lot of choppers, and ran up in every bootleg trying
Speaker 1: to take the CD back. But what I didn't realize
Speaker 1: was the a absolutely one thousand per cent. And what
Speaker 1: I didn't realize was that the music was already out
Speaker 1: and it was spreading to Detroit, d C. It was
Speaker 1: doing me good and I didn't know that. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't until I went to do the Birthday Bass and
Speaker 1: they played Bottom of the Map and twenty thousand people
Speaker 1: lost in the first prom and then I wanted to
Speaker 1: go a trap of dives my single right by now.
Speaker 1: So surviving is huge in the streets, like it's crazy,
Speaker 1: some something I never expected. And how I knew is
Speaker 1: I'm going to a show and I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to Dallas. So I'm in the airport and I'm walking
Speaker 1: through the airport and her Motherucker said a kind of
Speaker 1: young Jesus what then? And then it would be like,
Speaker 1: you know, people from Africa walking up to me the
Speaker 1: airport like Jeezy, we love you man, you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to you. Ain't come like what the because I
Speaker 1: didn't never know a con was that big? And I
Speaker 1: knew he come from Atlanta. Yeah I didn't, I've never
Speaker 1: been to Africa. No, no, he said, it's true. It's
Speaker 1: TRUEMM called me and Secure called me. He said, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is your single. And I was sitting there and
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what to be crazy if
Speaker 1: I could shoot the video like pay them full and
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, anybody know cameeron and they're like
Speaker 1: what called cameraon up? He was like, yo, peace King,
Speaker 1: I'll be there. So called Cameroon a couple of those
Speaker 1: guys from there, and I remember going out there to
Speaker 1: do the video shooting single. Yes, I didn't have me,
Speaker 1: you forgot me. He was probably doing something. You had
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, and everybody came from me to jay
Speaker 1: Z and it was like the biggest thing ever that
Speaker 1: I heard and heard. JAYZ actually came to that. He
Speaker 1: came to the video shoot, came out trailing. He sat
Speaker 1: there and I'm gonna say it now because I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's ever heard it, but you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to Calm because that record chains my life, like
Speaker 1: it took me from being a ghetto trapped superstar to
Speaker 1: be world you know what I'm saying. And I had
Speaker 1: no idea that one song can do that. So shout
Speaker 1: out to Calm gets too paid, right, and that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what It's cool. He's my friend. I can talk
Speaker 1: about it. He call always offered me a call to Africa.
Speaker 1: I thought you said you got one. Now my mind
Speaker 1: I do, but I was just go I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: go called. Are you af okay Boom? My president is black? Yes,
Speaker 1: my president right now is whack. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. He came and sat down and talked to me.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. We had a meeting with all
Speaker 1: the leaders of Atlanta. Time on time. He said, he
Speaker 1: just lost on us. I'm being honest, just ca. He
Speaker 1: came to see you want to talk to me, And
Speaker 1: he came and we did this this thing with all
Speaker 1: the leaders. You can see the pictures. They are there,
Speaker 1: and he wanted me to sit right beside him, and
Speaker 1: he looked at me the whole time. He ex questions.
Speaker 1: But I'm knowing he knew that I had something to
Speaker 1: do with his man getting in there, and that's why
Speaker 1: he did it. But we're talking about now, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: before he won, we're talking about Trump. Trump was whacked too.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm talking about Biden right now.
Speaker 1: You Biden about the dots just because Bro, come on
Speaker 1: dog saying that too, Hold on, hold on time. You
Speaker 1: said no stage, listen, listen, we want to bet stage. Jeez.
Speaker 1: They're like, tell him nor he can say whatever he wants.
Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, they didn't say that, you know. They
Speaker 1: did said be myself, beat yourself. That's saying whatever I'm
Speaker 1: saying just the same. They don't know nor, we don't know,
Speaker 1: be yourself. I go. I said, no, don't tell I go.
Speaker 1: I go, alright, go listen. Did you just see Afford
Speaker 1: the body? He about to die? Because because Biden, say
Speaker 1: said to the right, Mr President, he clearly made a laugh,
Speaker 1: clearly went the other way. I said to die. They said,
Speaker 1: do not tell North what you say? What do you
Speaker 1: want to say? A lot? They come to everything, They
Speaker 1: come everything. They say, okay, all right, that's the difference
Speaker 1: between But I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that make me nervous. We want to use
Speaker 1: the machine. Let's get the whole home, Let's get the
Speaker 1: whole room high. Let's get the machine. God damn it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get that machine. Get that machine. We upgraded since you've
Speaker 1: been here. I'm a I'm a street guy. Man. I
Speaker 1: get a little paranoid when I see that much of anything.
Speaker 1: It's legal, it's legal, it's it legal. Yeah. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: was like early on a drink. Chance you came back
Speaker 1: again and this is the cha alumn. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you though, man like me and Nori
Speaker 1: talk yes time to time. Yes, I'm really just I'm
Speaker 1: proud of you guys. Man, I'm sorry you guys. Got
Speaker 1: you guys got the coach hat. It's like, this is
Speaker 1: a stop, this is a must stop. Think And as
Speaker 1: I see you guys getting outside of this music, I
Speaker 1: respect it more. You know what I'm saying. Respect a
Speaker 1: little salt and that's it. God smell right too. I
Speaker 1: got damn seven hundred dollars, got there, Get your life right.
Speaker 1: That's a rockets good. Mama Wana made in a tubbing
Speaker 1: kindle makes some notes that Mama Wana. Don't ever drink that.
Speaker 1: Don't ever drink that jeezy litten. Trust me, he's my friend.
Speaker 1: I love him, but he's crazy, Okay, I love it. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that was That was one of those things, just taking
Speaker 1: a chance on it. I remember getting the beat from
Speaker 1: DJ Tobi at this studio in the hood, and I
Speaker 1: went over there night by myself and I sat in
Speaker 1: the room with him one of his producers, for like
Speaker 1: four hours and listening to every beat they had, and
Speaker 1: the last piet they played was that beat. And I
Speaker 1: got this thing like the sixs because I don't like
Speaker 1: necessarily write music. I see it, you know, I can.
Speaker 1: I can hear it beat and see what it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be so I know what it's gonna be when
Speaker 1: it's doff you. Yeah, you just you just see it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I just get music differently.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, wait till I come back
Speaker 1: with this. And I did that, did that record and
Speaker 1: I played it for two and he went crazy, and
Speaker 1: I knew what it was because when I played it
Speaker 1: for l a read, he was just like, yoh, this
Speaker 1: is just a single. Or going back to my president
Speaker 1: is Black. I did that record five months before he won,
Speaker 1: and I put it on the album before he won
Speaker 1: because I had faith that he was gonna win and
Speaker 1: I need that. I just felt like at the time,
Speaker 1: we needed to change. So it's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that I did behind the scenes to really help him
Speaker 1: win in my opinion, like culture wise, right. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told the story before it
Speaker 1: again got that he invited me to he invited me
Speaker 1: to a correspondence. Then this time he is Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: Barack Obama invited me to a correspondence. Then in New
Speaker 1: York I got there. How many times they searched you,
Speaker 1: They didn't even let me in. They told me I
Speaker 1: couldn't come in and watching trade songs walking Oprah, this
Speaker 1: one that one Kevin lows and I'm just sitting there, Yes,
Speaker 1: I got time for suit on that I spent way
Speaker 1: too much money for. You know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm embarrassed. So I get on the plane. I
Speaker 1: go back to Atlanta on the same night. Long at
Speaker 1: flight ever, because in my mind, I'm like, Yo, what
Speaker 1: the funk happened? I said all these things, And that's
Speaker 1: what really reminded me that I just never ever ever
Speaker 1: lose touch with my people on my core because they
Speaker 1: appointed me, and I'm not always gonna be accepted in
Speaker 1: those likes because I come from to have not send
Speaker 1: the people to the demonize. However, I'm in London, I'm
Speaker 1: in Europe on tour, and I get up and my
Speaker 1: mom keep calling me. I'm like, what's going on? She's like,
Speaker 1: did you hear what the President said about you? So
Speaker 1: the correspondents dinner with him, and Trump had those words.
Speaker 1: He said, my first term, I went without green. My
Speaker 1: second term, I'm going with young z Z. So that
Speaker 1: was his way of giving me a little shout out
Speaker 1: because I forgot that my best friend used to be
Speaker 1: meat and I used to be. I'm saying, so I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't just stand beside you and you know and
Speaker 1: co signed you. So shout out to Barack Obama for that,
Speaker 1: and he still owes me a conversation, by the way.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just put that on out there. And
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: at the White House. My man Rick Ross had a
Speaker 1: leg monitor. I'm like, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: I got a clean slate ung in there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: did that be hard Obama? What's what's this? What's his name?
Speaker 1: They called him? What's his nickname? Barry? Barry bring your
Speaker 1: assid drink Camps. I'm working with divided and Barries just
Speaker 1: makes you a yeah. Yeah. You guys hosting that day,
Speaker 1: you had like a political show, like you was wearing
Speaker 1: turtlenecks and all that. Yeah, it was interviewing house. Like
Speaker 1: I said, Jesus you loafs. Yeah, taking it there? So
Speaker 1: what what was it? What was it? What was you?
Speaker 1: You was doing your black Chuckerson. I just think you
Speaker 1: so what it is? Don't you know what it is?
Speaker 1: Don't know? Like when you get knowledge from other people
Speaker 1: and you just start to understand your position in it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go all in, like I'm not a half
Speaker 1: for your person. But when I felt like I was
Speaker 1: helping the coach and helping the people, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Whether you ran or walking,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, whatever I could do. But then I
Speaker 1: started to get in and realize, you know, the politics
Speaker 1: is like the craziest things ever You never it's worth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's worse than wrap. Yeah yeah, because I mean other
Speaker 1: than different prisons. But you nobody's ever telling you the truth.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it no matter where
Speaker 1: you're staying, it's not right. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's just not right. And I still support people here
Speaker 1: and there, but I don't try to go I don't
Speaker 1: do the loafers no more for them, it's the state
Speaker 1: matter whatever. I'm not doing that. But you know it
Speaker 1: hurt my feelings because my people trust me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when I'm going to these hoods
Speaker 1: and knocking door the door to get people to vote
Speaker 1: and doing all these things, like they trust me. They're
Speaker 1: like yo jeezy, Like yeah, I'm gonna vote. So it's
Speaker 1: just like, you know, even with Biden, like it was
Speaker 1: just tricky for me because it's just I just know
Speaker 1: all the things he promised, but then I have to
Speaker 1: rein myself that there's no one man that can help everybody.
Speaker 1: I can't even help everybody around me. So it's just
Speaker 1: like you almost setting yourself up fulfilling because you have expectations,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm saying it's like that
Speaker 1: woman in that White House isn't really controlling. No, he's
Speaker 1: not even telling the people, you know, it's more so
Speaker 1: he walked. It's a different thing. He might need some
Speaker 1: of them zeesy local little medical No, but no one's
Speaker 1: seen this for this where they're like, was the president
Speaker 1: of the right? He clearly he just goes the math
Speaker 1: footage of him shake hands and nobody Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: looks like you're not. I mean, clearly it's not I
Speaker 1: mean at this point, but it would be able to
Speaker 1: see Kamala Harris, like you know what I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I'm wish it and then oh night seeing
Speaker 1: her be the first Yeah, like the one person. I
Speaker 1: do feel like it's genuine, know, if I'm honest, it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but just every time I ever
Speaker 1: been in the president so just even had something for
Speaker 1: her team, it's Michelle Obama President. Feel like she's like
Speaker 1: she get it right, you know what? Yeah, she like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: when you see a woman that's really like you know,
Speaker 1: and and by the way, like mont I get the
Speaker 1: Rocks PROCs too, because it's like, it's hard to be
Speaker 1: the first the first black president and the most powerful
Speaker 1: man in the world. What do you have to go
Speaker 1: through to get to that? Not even that you don't
Speaker 1: have no scandal, No, ain't no, ain't no scandal. And
Speaker 1: props to Michelle for that as well. Yeah, he probably
Speaker 1: knows she don't play. But yeah, and that's probably why
Speaker 1: she's so real because she wouldn't run in that field
Speaker 1: because she knows she don't want to be a part
Speaker 1: of that part of that. Yeah, I mean, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie to I kind of because my man wouldn't.
Speaker 1: They're looking, you know, he came out Yeah great, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't what's that? Don't know. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like if you kind of look at
Speaker 1: the history, you know, you exclude Barack Obama only because
Speaker 1: he handled himself presidentally and as a high value black man. Um,
Speaker 1: who's really who really done it? Like? Who really done
Speaker 1: it for us? Like? Who who do you feel has
Speaker 1: been the best president? I would say when when Reagan
Speaker 1: was in, they say the streets was cracking through, but
Speaker 1: that was illegally through. But then he just started the
Speaker 1: war on drugs too. Yeah, again and again, I was told.
Speaker 1: I was told one thing. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we can go, you know, back and forth. But I
Speaker 1: was told one thing very young, you never talked to
Speaker 1: people about religion and politics. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: For me, I just social media blew that up and
Speaker 1: everybody just like Sleepless the movies. Yeah, what is it
Speaker 1: called sleepless the movies? The movie? Um, sleepless sleepers. You
Speaker 1: know I learned that about being locked up? Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the most drop. The first you don't talk about
Speaker 1: talk about religion politics But Atlanta, right though, I know,
Speaker 1: but this is a political question. I feel like Atlanta
Speaker 1: should be the first city were like killing Mike is
Speaker 1: the the governor, Jesus, the fucking mayor, city council smoke.
Speaker 1: But contrary to people's beliefs. Killer Mike is one of
Speaker 1: the most intelligent Black man I've ever talked. He's encyclopedia.
Speaker 1: He's like he knows his ship. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he's solid, we know that. But he
Speaker 1: knows anything historical about any government. He's consistent with That's
Speaker 1: who he is. Um. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like we don't try everything else. So I think, so,
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like he should running at this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Killer Mike could be
Speaker 1: the mayor of Atlanta. You know how dope is that
Speaker 1: to be like the mayor of killer I'm going out there.
Speaker 1: I'm getting apartment just about right to be there. I
Speaker 1: love Atlanta or Atlanta is the only place where you
Speaker 1: can come from anywhere and be anybody you want to be.
Speaker 1: It's so much opportunity there, um, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what makes it special, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if one day we look up
Speaker 1: and it's something like that. But you ain't in the policy, man,
Speaker 1: I got, I got. I'm too honest, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell the truth. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna work.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I can't lie. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm always be transparent, so and I wouldn't even want
Speaker 1: that burden. I feel like what I do um in
Speaker 1: real life, it's a little bit of that because I
Speaker 1: could touch those people when a lot of people can't,
Speaker 1: and they trust me, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: of my anteguty and my values and my morals, but
Speaker 1: also being jeezy like who I am, I can get
Speaker 1: anything done in my city, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I'd rather had that because I don't
Speaker 1: need no Grammys and wars and none of that. But
Speaker 1: as long as I got respect and I can move
Speaker 1: around my seat and people treat me like it's such
Speaker 1: as somebody that really put in work, and somebody's out
Speaker 1: here really thriving and striving and show people that what
Speaker 1: you can do, and that's all I need. I think
Speaker 1: being a politician would make you totally like you have
Speaker 1: to choose between the money and the people. I don't
Speaker 1: ever want to be in that situationause I'm always gonna
Speaker 1: chose people. Well, do you see this like new Black preachers,
Speaker 1: these niggas hood yeah, they got better than us. Rose Races.
Speaker 1: He had nothing in his closet. You know, he's opress.
Speaker 1: He's an impressed run like it's crazy like that. They
Speaker 1: have a press conference. You hear the press comperence and
Speaker 1: all that. We like this, it's ship is different now.
Speaker 1: But like the music, jeez, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I didn't when when I'm sitting around with the young
Speaker 1: homies and they're breaking down me this new music or
Speaker 1: what's going on, and these guys basically telling on themselves.
Speaker 1: Like if you notice when we was making music like that,
Speaker 1: there was no names being mentioned, there was no blocks.
Speaker 1: It was like we're saying pretty much your imagination, you
Speaker 1: take the rest of it. They're not like that right now. There. Well,
Speaker 1: well let me say this because in the beginning I
Speaker 1: went through a lot of that too, because I was
Speaker 1: I'm not a carpenter, I'm not a mechanic, I'm not
Speaker 1: a roofer. I can't tell you nothing about those things.
Speaker 1: But I am a hustling. I come from the streets,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when I was telling
Speaker 1: people what I was experiencing, what I was going through,
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like Drossnitch. I'm saying it wasn't
Speaker 1: because original Gangster Rapp would would have been like they say,
Speaker 1: it's a cautionary time. Well when you say hit the bricks,
Speaker 1: hit the lights, will they go to bricks? You know
Speaker 1: some people still has that like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, but for me, it was my truth.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I think a lot of the
Speaker 1: things that I was saying, the guys who were already up,
Speaker 1: they felt it. But a lot of the guys who
Speaker 1: was trying to come up, like damn, like basically you're
Speaker 1: giving them the blueprint. But it was about survival for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's all I really knew,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was nothing that's
Speaker 1: I can really say, Like I couldn't what I was
Speaker 1: gonna talk about, like I'm not. That's funny as hell
Speaker 1: because my first album, The War Report, after that, people
Speaker 1: had to come to me and say, you know, you
Speaker 1: could imagine some of this ship like you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't have to. You didn't imagine it. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: what you knew about that. I swear to God, Patchwork
Speaker 1: Studio the same thing. But I never forget. I'm working
Speaker 1: on thug motivation. T I comes to the studio, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting in the studio. He'll tell you if you have
Speaker 1: something accent, you know, I'm doing my thug thing. I
Speaker 1: probably got about two point five in the booth sitting
Speaker 1: with me. I'm sitting, I got the machine going everything,
Speaker 1: and I never forget. He came in there where I was,
Speaker 1: and he looked in. He's like, you know, Ledge was second.
Speaker 1: So he took me in the hallway. We walked in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I'm like, we're in the bathroom. I just
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. You know how Tip is
Speaker 1: EI look under the stalls and everything likes and he goes, yo,
Speaker 1: you know you can't do both, right, Like what do
Speaker 1: you mean? He's like, you can't wrap and do what
Speaker 1: you're doing, because he said, and you're talented, you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna blow at some point. And if you continue
Speaker 1: to do what you're doing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna work out for you.
Speaker 1: And I looked at him and say, with ship, but
Speaker 1: don't you do both because you're like you the rubber bandman.
Speaker 1: It's like, hell, no, you know, I left that alone
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and for me, it was like
Speaker 1: that was a real wake up call, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I remember shortly after that, you know,
Speaker 1: I was having a lot of nightmares about you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to make it and this is one last thing.
Speaker 1: And I got caught up. And you know, I was
Speaker 1: losing a lot of weight because at the time Thud
Speaker 1: Motivation was coming out. You know, everybody started getting indicted
Speaker 1: and going to prison, like especially everybody was hanging out
Speaker 1: with So it's like a real dark time and I'm drinking,
Speaker 1: I'm smoking. My mind ain't clear, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing I'm I'm having a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 1: And I just remember T was voicing my head saying that,
Speaker 1: and I remember I had this. I had like these
Speaker 1: two next tell phones, these churchs. It was like the photons,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying saying, And I rolled down
Speaker 1: the street one day and just do them out the window.
Speaker 1: I was done. That's like I was. I was like done.
Speaker 1: When I would see people in the street, they're like yo,
Speaker 1: and then owe your money coming, I'm like, no, you
Speaker 1: wan't mean nothing. Keep that I'm saying, live your life,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, And it was so funny that
Speaker 1: people that I was really trying to be a rapper,
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't know how many homies laughed at me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. And I never forget when
Speaker 1: I got that first deal and I got that first
Speaker 1: when them boys came on the radio, and then I
Speaker 1: was yeah, I was warming up and everything was happening.
Speaker 1: It was god, man, because there it wasn't me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I wasn't doing anything different. I
Speaker 1: was just sticking to my guns and doing what I love.
Speaker 1: But it was all starting to happen. And the minute
Speaker 1: everybody started getting indicted it when I started blowing up,
Speaker 1: and it was like the craziest thing ever. Bro. It's
Speaker 1: just like I was like that, I'm supposed to be here,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and you know, shout out
Speaker 1: to that man, shout out to the big homie. Actually,
Speaker 1: so no, no, no, this is something even ella um
Speaker 1: I want to take a shot to it too. Woh.
Speaker 1: But g Herbo just dropped the album from the Vibers
Speaker 1: or More Yes, and it's something that's very very real,
Speaker 1: real because we all deal with that, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: you was a part of a bunch of different people.
Speaker 1: You're one of the thirty that probably made it, one
Speaker 1: of the hundreds that probably made it. At me, I
Speaker 1: just want to award right, that's right, don't forget that.
Speaker 1: And it was weird to me because I got a
Speaker 1: lot of calls. I got a lot of unnecessary calls
Speaker 1: that I never got before. And it started to start
Speaker 1: the dawn on me that it's like, damn, some of
Speaker 1: these calls I actually take because I have survivor's remorse.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this guy, whatever be in my position,
Speaker 1: this guy. So this guy asked me for something I love. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. But I'm like, damn, this is too
Speaker 1: much for me. Have you ever dealt with that? Man?
Speaker 1: That's my whole story. You got stressed. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a shop for that. Come on, you should have seen
Speaker 1: your own face? Are solo sulo? I made At one point,
Speaker 1: I had my whole neighborhood living in my house. Jesus,
Speaker 1: my first man and I had my whole neighborhood lived.
Speaker 1: There was an open door, sixty seventy people in at
Speaker 1: the time. You know, what I'm saying. It was loose Jesus, Yes,
Speaker 1: yeah I was. I was, but but I just felt
Speaker 1: like when you from the hood, you really want to
Speaker 1: go to take everybody, put everybody on that was my
Speaker 1: and then um, you know, and as you start paying
Speaker 1: the law suits and things are happening, things are coming
Speaker 1: up missing, and nobody's taking responsibility. Everything is on you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You're just like, wow, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You bound, people calls about watches,
Speaker 1: people passing on your toilet, all that ship, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're coming in and it's just like you still
Speaker 1: feel alone, you know what I'm saying. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I have a gift of being able to visualize where
Speaker 1: I need to be and what's the best way to
Speaker 1: get there from A to C without compromising my integrity,
Speaker 1: And every time I took a step towards that, I
Speaker 1: would see how people around me would react, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it's just like, as the money
Speaker 1: start coming in, you know what money now, it's like
Speaker 1: you like everyone. Yeah, everyone's saying like almost like you
Speaker 1: like food, because you can't go by just for yourself
Speaker 1: without making sure you know what I'm saying, Like so
Speaker 1: it would be that way, and then it just went
Speaker 1: on for so long, like years and years and years,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, what's going on. It was the
Speaker 1: last time that I got locked up in l A
Speaker 1: on tour, and I remember just had my a year
Speaker 1: old daughter and I got locked up on the Whiskalifa
Speaker 1: tour on the murder. They tried to put on me
Speaker 1: that I had they found the gun and your toy
Speaker 1: bus or something. Yeah, I found several, but none of
Speaker 1: them had my finger prints on. Right, So now I'm
Speaker 1: in the l A County jail and I ain't nobody
Speaker 1: taking care of my people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got ten people with me. It's a million dollar
Speaker 1: bill for everybody that women. They wanted to let you go.
Speaker 1: I think they came. They came to get me out,
Speaker 1: But I'm like, these people that are with me, they're
Speaker 1: not criminals. This is my staff. So of course I
Speaker 1: don't want to tell nobody how to get my paper,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to lead him here. So I
Speaker 1: stayed in there until I was able to well, I
Speaker 1: went out right and get everybody out the way we
Speaker 1: came in. But what I noticed is when I came out,
Speaker 1: I was mad at the world. I was depressed, I
Speaker 1: was angry, and I was really angry at the people
Speaker 1: that was with me because nobody did anything for the
Speaker 1: people I love. And that's when I made the decision
Speaker 1: that which was the hardest decision in my life, as
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk alone, and that's what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: And every since then, it's just like it's me. Of course,
Speaker 1: I got people around me that I love, and you know,
Speaker 1: my staff and people that work with me and the
Speaker 1: people that I employed because we had the same vision.
Speaker 1: But as far just keeping people around the safe face,
Speaker 1: I can't do that anymore. Can that bring too much
Speaker 1: bad energy? And it's just like I don't need bad energy. Well,
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do with my life, it's just like,
Speaker 1: you don't want that. And I feel g Herber because
Speaker 1: he's a kid from Chicago. It's going through some real things.
Speaker 1: You can tell that he's beyond the star. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he's only said his knowledge is crazy. And when I
Speaker 1: started being around people that, you know, they really wanted
Speaker 1: to see me win or connect me with people that
Speaker 1: I really couldn't get in the room with That's when
Speaker 1: I started to see like, oh, there are people out
Speaker 1: there in the world. They're good people. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, They're good people. Know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be nowhere in the situation from man,
Speaker 1: I got to sleep with two clocks, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because the homies down still, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm like, you know what i mean, feel away
Speaker 1: about this or that, and I love my I love
Speaker 1: my my own boys. But it's just like we didn't
Speaker 1: have the same vision. We didn't want to be the
Speaker 1: same place. My palette is different, like yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, with you, So it's just like now
Speaker 1: you're weird, like different music now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like getting up in the store listening. It's just
Speaker 1: like he's bucking you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: So now I'm I'm eating healthy, I'm taking care of myself.
Speaker 1: I lost sixty pounds. You know, where's all the gangsters
Speaker 1: in the front row? Now is women throwing pantis at me?
Speaker 1: I ain't going back, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is it. And it wasn't until so imagine everything
Speaker 1: everybody at work I put out into the recession. It's
Speaker 1: when I told myself that you're still free, you're still alive,
Speaker 1: You're ad meant to be you'd meant to be a star.
Speaker 1: And that's when I started kind of sitting the access.
Speaker 1: But then when I got to what happened in um
Speaker 1: the Bay, that's when I really said, I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna try to save face anymore. You know, I love y'all,
Speaker 1: and I can take care of people from a distance.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be with me every day for
Speaker 1: you to feel to love because we're not on the
Speaker 1: same path, you know what I'm saying. And that's that
Speaker 1: was the realization. And I'm not disrespect to anyone because
Speaker 1: I love everyone. But that's when my piece began. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I can see it. And if
Speaker 1: people love you, they want you to grow. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: then sometimes people are scared if you go, you're gonna
Speaker 1: leave the maham. You know what I'm saying, And that's
Speaker 1: like the most dangerous. That's why I think real Fresh
Speaker 1: ain't here. God what I'm saying, that's why Vonne ain't here.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's why Adobe ain't here,
Speaker 1: That's why they're not That's why two PACs not you
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's why Big is not here, like
Speaker 1: because somebody was like, no, you can't go. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You really just think, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: that's why Nipcy Hustle ain't here. Think about that. Hussle
Speaker 1: ain't do nothing but good. But he stayed in the hood,
Speaker 1: invested in his own book. There that felt like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to see you go anything. Try to lead
Speaker 1: by example, right, And that was that. But we spoke
Speaker 1: about our presidents black and what we did touch on
Speaker 1: is that nozzles on that record, Yes, but at one
Speaker 1: point now have at least the album called Dead. At
Speaker 1: this time, Atlanta is at the top of the motherfucker
Speaker 1: So I knew what Naz was insinuating. But he was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, the ethics of hip hop, but Atlanta being
Speaker 1: so at the forefront of the game, it almost felt
Speaker 1: like Atlanta. This shot was directed towards Atlanta, and you
Speaker 1: was wanting to as a whole with two stories. I
Speaker 1: met a nas in one twelve bathroom, just bathroom. I
Speaker 1: was in there with all my change, A lot of
Speaker 1: bathroom stories. Yeah, no, no, Once twelve the club's historical,
Speaker 1: and I met him in the bathroom, you know, bathroom
Speaker 1: the thing saying I'm not your jeez, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up? But I kind of felt like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you give me what I wanted,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know me, So i'mnna use that for motivation.
Speaker 1: So when I finally got on, I'm on death to
Speaker 1: him on the same I think it was on death
Speaker 1: him at the time, I'm on the same label you
Speaker 1: on and I'm popping. So when I heard hip hop
Speaker 1: is dead, I immediately felt like, you know, like you
Speaker 1: basically saying because I'm on now, right, So they baited
Speaker 1: me in there's what do you think about? What he's said?
Speaker 1: Was like, ain't never bust this gun. I'm just going in.
Speaker 1: But I don't even know him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And the craziest thing is there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: in this game that I don't have respect for because
Speaker 1: it's all of aacide. It's all about the money, it's
Speaker 1: all about the cloud, it's all about you know what
Speaker 1: they want you to believe. But the more conversations nas
Speaker 1: than I had, I feel like he's hip hop's a
Speaker 1: leap because he is the big home. But how does
Speaker 1: this conversation start from you disagreeing with his state? Because
Speaker 1: how you handle me? He called me? He said, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's up? You know? He called me, so so you
Speaker 1: go go crazy on on my phone? So calm. I
Speaker 1: was ready to go to war, but I was ready
Speaker 1: for him to say something crazy. I just couldn't wait,
Speaker 1: he said. He said, what's up? King? He said peace? King?
Speaker 1: I said, you know what's going on? He was like,
Speaker 1: I can understand why you feel the way you feel,
Speaker 1: and they just kind of walked me through with his
Speaker 1: thought process as wool and I feel so crazy on
Speaker 1: that phone. You know what I'm saying by the top
Speaker 1: of guys like yeah, you know I love your music.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We all to do a song
Speaker 1: together one day, you know. He was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: whatever you want. And when I called him for my
Speaker 1: president is black, he said, I got you. He sent
Speaker 1: that ship back and like and like and pulled up
Speaker 1: in Atlanta in the hood by himself with his driver
Speaker 1: to shoot the video and everything that I've ever done
Speaker 1: in life that was an accomplishment for me. It's like
Speaker 1: a top five people that give me a call. One
Speaker 1: is whole, the other one is not. He always he
Speaker 1: just he hit me the other days like peace King,
Speaker 1: that's it, you know what I'm saying. Or peace King,
Speaker 1: I see, that's it. And and to me, that's what
Speaker 1: leading by leadership is about, because if he would have
Speaker 1: got on my level and match my energy, who knows what,
Speaker 1: but not even just it being all bad, he would
Speaker 1: have still something me to make me be like that
Speaker 1: the next young cats say something about me the water right.
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, oh, yeah, you're not jumping him,
Speaker 1: not jumping at you forced you not to jump at
Speaker 1: like Freddy Gives or somebody else, because now I understand
Speaker 1: the frustration. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: ivery we all want to be on, we all want
Speaker 1: to be important, we all want to be a significant
Speaker 1: we all know we tellent. I told Freddy to give
Speaker 1: that the day one bro you got you don't even
Speaker 1: need me. Actually I'm in your way, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, but I'm in your way, but I got
Speaker 1: too many issues out here. I got bad things that
Speaker 1: I need to iron out because I haven't been there.
Speaker 1: I haven't been the coolest guy with a lot of
Speaker 1: these exects. You know, I'm getting the business. So I'm
Speaker 1: still going off of my past or where I don't
Speaker 1: check these people and they never forgotten. Not in position
Speaker 1: is the powerty like I'm not giving him to deal,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I'm hurting you.
Speaker 1: I'm in your way. You got it and he did that.
Speaker 1: You don't look at it right. So let let me.
Speaker 1: You gotta record with Kendrick and J Cole, Kendrick and
Speaker 1: j Cole, Remember I got I got. Kendrick is on there.
Speaker 1: Jay Cole is on there. Okay, So Kendrick is my
Speaker 1: man um. Shout out to Kendrick, he's my guy. Jake
Speaker 1: Coles my guy as well. And I shot Jake cooler
Speaker 1: text sent them the record and he loved it and
Speaker 1: he did it. I was trying to get Kendrick to
Speaker 1: rap on the record, but he said he didn't feel
Speaker 1: it like that, so he would do the hook and uh,
Speaker 1: bread to something what he did and he did it,
Speaker 1: and I put it together and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know because again you know for me, this is
Speaker 1: too hottest young boys. Yeah, now you're the O G
Speaker 1: right And how did you get that? Though? I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I think I out of just out of respect,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I just think out of
Speaker 1: respect and and and people seeing your visions as well,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, remember Kendrick hit me
Speaker 1: about when his records early on. You see Kendrick new
Speaker 1: dance and he did on stage, Yeah music, man, make
Speaker 1: it feel you know, I felt they do. This is
Speaker 1: a bigger It's just I can't move like he killed it.
Speaker 1: He felt like a South siddle you can put music
Speaker 1: right there right looking like yeah, Now, I just I
Speaker 1: think it's out of respect. I mean even Andre three
Speaker 1: thousand when I we stopped tuning for I do know
Speaker 1: Andre don't really do feature and he was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: send it, knock it out. Can't pay, Andre, you can't pay.
Speaker 1: It's not about And even when he came out to
Speaker 1: do my tenure anniversary show, and he came out, it
Speaker 1: was like seeing a unicorn. And I remember the greatest
Speaker 1: thing I remember unicorn. I remember seeing him. I was
Speaker 1: twice so for the song. I'm coming downstairs Mr season
Speaker 1: l a the hotel and he said the elevator, like, Dre,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Said and talk fifteen minutes. I got
Speaker 1: this record. He should send it to me, knocks it out.
Speaker 1: This is like fast for or four years later, I'm
Speaker 1: at the same hotel. I'm in a lobby. He's coming
Speaker 1: down the elevator. I'm like, yo, he had a good talk. No,
Speaker 1: he had a flute. I think that that and he said, Um,
Speaker 1: I said, your dream doing this tenure anniversary next week.
Speaker 1: I would love for you to come out. He said,
Speaker 1: give me a number. I'll call you. He called me
Speaker 1: the day before. He's like, I talked to my homies.
Speaker 1: They said I should do this. I said, Yo, you
Speaker 1: gotta come. I had Yeah, I had Um, I had Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had dre um. The list goes on. It was
Speaker 1: crazy and he's like, yeah, I'll do it. He came
Speaker 1: and Drake no, yeah, and Okay, okay, Dre and you
Speaker 1: know boys in the hood. It's crazy. So my ten university.
Speaker 1: He came. He rocked when he walked out. Bro, It's like,
Speaker 1: I think people it took people at least a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes to realize, yeah, he's and it was crazy
Speaker 1: because he wanted to mate with the cord. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like you wanted. That happened to me
Speaker 1: twice in my carid because when I was on when
Speaker 1: I was on a Blueprint three tour with JA, we
Speaker 1: had Madison Square Garden, right, and all you heard on
Speaker 1: the radio is about little Wayne going to jail for
Speaker 1: his gun chars. That's all you heard, right. So I
Speaker 1: already had Drake and I had Nicki Minas to come
Speaker 1: out on my set right coming into London Hotel in
Speaker 1: New York, and guess who's on the elevator Wayne, And
Speaker 1: I said, damn man, I thought you had to turn
Speaker 1: yourself in today. He said, you never believe this. The
Speaker 1: courthouse flooded, So I gotta turn myself in tomorrow. I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta come out tonight on my set. He said,
Speaker 1: bat I'm there. So I bring Nicki Minaj out during
Speaker 1: my set. I know because I remember Jake peeking behind
Speaker 1: the curtains like what the hell because I'm me JA
Speaker 1: on tour. But I come out in the middle of
Speaker 1: Jay said and do my set and he comes back out.
Speaker 1: Remember j peek behind the courage, like, what the hell
Speaker 1: is going on out there? So I brought a Nick
Speaker 1: him in outs first, and then I brought out Drake,
Speaker 1: and then me and I brought Wayne out and we
Speaker 1: did I'm going in with Drake. And when Wayne came
Speaker 1: out there, man, the whole building was just like it
Speaker 1: was the crazies shit I've seen like as far as shows,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, damn, But the whole thing
Speaker 1: was everybody in New York thought he was in jail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: You's what I'm saying. The elevator is important. If you said,
Speaker 1: somebody come out of the elevator, you know, go ahead
Speaker 1: make that. You know what I mean. Terrible, But you
Speaker 1: got look at the names you're listing. It's like anybody's
Speaker 1: top five. You got Wayne Kendrick that you didn't work with.
Speaker 1: I would love. I would have loved work with Pocket
Speaker 1: before he passed. But the only other person I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to work with this shot there. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: always Maxwell was one. But one day I was in
Speaker 1: New York and I was just hanging out. I mean Maxwell,
Speaker 1: I got real cool. He just came pull up on
Speaker 1: me the studio and we did this record out of
Speaker 1: the Blue recorded the song and it's on one of
Speaker 1: my drives I've been looking for for like six years.
Speaker 1: You put it out, no, So I'm telling when I
Speaker 1: find that drive, I'm putting it out. But me and
Speaker 1: Maxwell got a record. He was one of the ones
Speaker 1: I wanted to do something, but sho and did you
Speaker 1: have a chord? The verses in the talk together, I
Speaker 1: just feel like Maxwell lace versus. Actually he laid his
Speaker 1: versus in the control room. He wanted up mike with
Speaker 1: a chord, and he's sitting there like he's performing. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all. So yeah, I knew it was gonna be yea.
Speaker 1: But yeah, No, I had an amazing run. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like, and I'm just getting started. I feel like
Speaker 1: that even when I think about all the stuff me
Speaker 1: and Hovid done, and then's not just because it's top tier.
Speaker 1: It's just because we we got things that you know,
Speaker 1: people don't have, like meaning like we got history and
Speaker 1: our records and any that I've done a record with.
Speaker 1: You know, you take um, Kanye, you take hold, you
Speaker 1: take um. I mean you name it what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: dirt Drake Nas. It was always a point where we
Speaker 1: pushed the envelope a little bit and it made, you know,
Speaker 1: just something that was legendary. So I'm very happy about
Speaker 1: that because again, I didn't come into the game to
Speaker 1: be a rapper, right, I was trying to be a CEO.
Speaker 1: And now you're at the top, right. Yeah. And it's
Speaker 1: been times where, you know, I've been in the studio
Speaker 1: with people and I'm just like, yo, how on the hell?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Am I gonna And that's
Speaker 1: my best work because I've been with Jay you know,
Speaker 1: doing seen it all and you know, you see jay
Speaker 1: Z in the studio, they ain't you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's different even Ross. Yeah, but let's go to better
Speaker 1: believe it feature in boos Oh man, we just had Booty.
Speaker 1: Let's not even talk about the song, justence the experience
Speaker 1: boost is one of the kind of by yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we noticed, right. And I really respect Boosey's perspective because
Speaker 1: that's where aunts and Uncle's taught us. He's never forgot
Speaker 1: that though, you know what I'm saying, Like he understands
Speaker 1: that's what it is. And probably because he's so and
Speaker 1: this I'm gonna say this wrong. What y'all gonna mean
Speaker 1: what I said, Boosey reminds me of the fly that
Speaker 1: you know, the thing, the thing that when we go
Speaker 1: to your grandma house, she got the thing on the
Speaker 1: coming from the ceiling to get the f and the
Speaker 1: leather sofa, the plastic plastic on the sofa. It's old
Speaker 1: school moral. Listen, first of all. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm not preaching violence or whatever when
Speaker 1: I don't got Boosey called me when Boosey first Well,
Speaker 1: two things that I was with him when he first
Speaker 1: got out the last time he got out, and then
Speaker 1: he called on me when we did better believe it
Speaker 1: to come to bad Ruge. Well, he actually called me
Speaker 1: before that. I was head of the Texas or something,
Speaker 1: and he was doing a giveaway for some kids, and
Speaker 1: I told my tour bus driver to turn the bus around.
Speaker 1: We drove Baton Rouge and I went out there and
Speaker 1: um with him and gave away bicycles and all that.
Speaker 1: So that's how I knew how and bet he was
Speaker 1: in the community. That's that's who he is. Like he
Speaker 1: got a great heart. Um. But when we did better
Speaker 1: believe it, I came down and I stayed in this
Speaker 1: hotel in Bad Rules. If you know anything about Bad Ruge,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a five star guy. I'm like, whole
Speaker 1: ship in the room service like what we're doing. And
Speaker 1: I go there and we do the video, and this
Speaker 1: is the first time I've ever seen an extend the clips.
Speaker 1: Every little guy that was with Boosey had him hanging
Speaker 1: out of his pocket, and I'm just like, what is that?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, what's going on? He
Speaker 1: pulled it out. I was like, oh, ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was just like, so that's
Speaker 1: the first thing I noticed about him. You don't got
Speaker 1: no security, it's just those little guys to be with him.
Speaker 1: But then what I immediately noticed was the type of
Speaker 1: respect that he had where he's from. This movie is
Speaker 1: just like a dot of battery, bro. Like I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like he's presidential. And we go do the video.
Speaker 1: Video goes well, So now I'm in Baton Rouge. There's
Speaker 1: no flight leaving out, so i gotta stay tonight. So
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do when you're in Bad Rules? He's like,
Speaker 1: let's go to the club. I'm like, yeah, bad come
Speaker 1: pick me up. So they come pick me up about
Speaker 1: ten fifteen cars deep, so I might be going to
Speaker 1: the club. I got my jewels. Oh my smell good.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think we're about to
Speaker 1: go hit it. We pull up in front of a house.
Speaker 1: It's a million cars at this house. Went to a
Speaker 1: house party, bad roof, but this is the club. So
Speaker 1: we're talking this house. We're walking to this house. There's
Speaker 1: no lie. We're walking to this house and it's cracking.
Speaker 1: Do you walk through the house? Then you get to
Speaker 1: the backyard and that's where the club is at. So
Speaker 1: it's in the backyard in a fence, got a picture, booth,
Speaker 1: ball everybody out there. It's crazy club. It's the house though.
Speaker 1: It's like you're going to the house in the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: but that's the club. I'm just sitting around like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: Like this is the club. So we went in there,
Speaker 1: we had it, we lit up, we had a great time.
Speaker 1: And then, um, I don't forget. I told Booty when
Speaker 1: he got into trouble. I was like, yo, bro, you
Speaker 1: gotta get out of bad rules because it's like, really,
Speaker 1: you're too big, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: think the last time he got in trouble. We talked,
Speaker 1: you know, I just remember him moving to Atlanta. So
Speaker 1: I'm just really happy that he got itself out of
Speaker 1: the situation because he was what it was in my eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he see it the same way.
Speaker 1: He's too powerful there and there was he said it though,
Speaker 1: he said most rappers get murdered, and they said that
Speaker 1: that's the reason why he got out of his own
Speaker 1: But I only think that. I think it was with
Speaker 1: law enforcement. He was too powerful and they wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: let that going for long. Because it was the last
Speaker 1: time I talked to Booty, he was like, he wrote
Speaker 1: me a letter and he said they was trying to
Speaker 1: give him the death penalty. So imagine you're reading the letter.
Speaker 1: You're sitting there and it's just like, yo, you know,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm going through, you know, and they're
Speaker 1: giving me the death pendal tea know, I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So shout out to
Speaker 1: Booty for making it out of that. Let's take this
Speaker 1: whole you know what I'm saying, sh shid of for
Speaker 1: you know, getting back on his feet. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, doing how to really was do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. I'll be okay man, welcome back. Yeah sir,
Speaker 1: when when when when did you? Um? What was that recket?
Speaker 1: But like who was your my friend? I mean it
Speaker 1: was like I did it for I did it and
Speaker 1: then I put on the mixtape as well, and it
Speaker 1: blew from there as well. Um, it was me, him
Speaker 1: and Webby and I just always knew that bumb and
Speaker 1: Pempsey had a real love for them, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And they had this whole chipling circuit thing
Speaker 1: on lock where they was like it was booked like
Speaker 1: every day of the week, and even when they came
Speaker 1: through town, it's just like every hood, every ghetto there
Speaker 1: was out, you know what I'm saying. We called at
Speaker 1: one point though he did Yeah, he said it wasn't
Speaker 1: even the same time zone, right. Yeah. I didn't never understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't understand that either. I knew Bun,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know Pimpantill. Ok. Yeah, I knew Bun.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Pimp until we got out and when
Speaker 1: we did get throwed with me him and jay Z okay, right,
Speaker 1: and then everything was worked out. I mean it wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't have an issue, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I just think a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that he was saying, people kind of
Speaker 1: thought he was talking about me, But um, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know him, so I didn't. I didn't get that.
Speaker 1: It couldn't have been about you, right, I didn't like that. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, jeez, man, gonna be honest. Gave us
Speaker 1: every day. Man, I would like to take one more
Speaker 1: shot with you. Come on, let's do it hard, the
Speaker 1: hard no only Nori, yes yo, No, jeez man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. Man, you're a legend. Your person that
Speaker 1: needs uh deserves to be my drink? Okay bad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that watermelon? Um that needs to be respected. Uh, you
Speaker 1: paid your dudes, play the game right. You did everything
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. We want to always salute you,
Speaker 1: we want to always respect you. That's what our show
Speaker 1: is about. Now, everybody else want to give out flowers.
Speaker 1: Everybody else want to We've been doing that. We've been
Speaker 1: doing that. And because um, your story is beautiful, man,
Speaker 1: your story is a real one. Your story needs to
Speaker 1: be repeated. So when it's the official snow forky one
Speaker 1: back in my bag. Let's expect humber greatness. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: really happy about this because again it's just like me
Speaker 1: and drama. He's hosting this, so this is this is
Speaker 1: he's hosting it. He's hosting it. Okay, you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: that good. That's all. And don't forget to check us
Speaker 1: on Patreon. Oh yeah, we hatreon dot com. Force Last
Speaker 1: Drink Champs. Let me just say something, Jess, when you
Speaker 1: do a non political podcast, we want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about it less because yeah, yeah, yeah, we want,
Speaker 1: we want, we want. We won't help you out less
Speaker 1: you help yourself. Yo, Man, you'll thank you all. Your
Speaker 1: whole crew was very professional, all of them. They can't
Speaker 1: make sure they make sure the product was there. I
Speaker 1: love your whole crew, even down to the secutest cutity.
Speaker 1: Want to make sure you know what the walk. I
Speaker 1: love all that. I love all that because you know why.
Speaker 1: This is my last question. Do you move different now
Speaker 1: that all of these rappers are disappearing? I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: move different? Is then I moved? How I know how
Speaker 1: to move because I know nobody's exempt that. I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna I'm never gonna let nobody to sensitize me because
Speaker 1: of my position. I know what it is. It's been
Speaker 1: that way since I jumped off the ports. Ain't nothing changed,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just a little more active.
Speaker 1: But I think God for being through the things that
Speaker 1: I went through on the street level, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what got me to where I'm at as
Speaker 1: far as you know, morals and not just flipping and
Speaker 1: doing crazy things. Of course, everybody got their you know,
Speaker 1: their stuff. But what I'm saying it is like I
Speaker 1: think that's the best gift I ever received is survival.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and what you're saying, it
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense because when you met me,
Speaker 1: I was living for survival. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: out of survival and the reason why it's so thin
Speaker 1: because now I'm living not love meaning that you know,
Speaker 1: I employed people, you know what I'm saying. They get
Speaker 1: a chance to live out their dreams. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I I've accumulated things that you don't have
Speaker 1: to take no more shots, right what I'm saying. But um,
Speaker 1: it's differ living out a lot a lot of out
Speaker 1: of survival and and living out of love because just
Speaker 1: like I love what I do, I love my people,
Speaker 1: I love you know what I represent. You know, I
Speaker 1: love getting better, I love evolving, I love giving game.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I love surviving. So it's
Speaker 1: just like, you know, it's it's it's a different world now,
Speaker 1: meaning that you know when I said skies a limit,
Speaker 1: you know that was half the truth. Ain't know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that that's it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And now I see that more than ever.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, but however, I don't forget what
Speaker 1: I'm a child of, where I come from, the cloth
Speaker 1: that I am, because that's what keeps me safe. And
Speaker 1: that's why I'm maybe to go in these places and
Speaker 1: be around these people. Because I I was in Detroit
Speaker 1: two days ago. I felt like I was home. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on the block, you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to full one, you know, think of as Strathmore.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I might head on the
Speaker 1: spiel was just like there us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because the police pull up, guess what, we're all together.
Speaker 1: They don't care that I'm jeasy, I'm saying, right. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I love that because that's the
Speaker 1: one thing that I have when I walk in the
Speaker 1: room and do business with these execs that they don't have.
Speaker 1: They don't got that. They don't got that natural instinct,
Speaker 1: they don't got that know how to survive. They don't
Speaker 1: got that off the top of the head, come up
Speaker 1: with a solution like like that you don't even think about.
Speaker 1: They don't got that. Feelis um just feel its driving
Speaker 1: And it's just like when I sit in the room
Speaker 1: with him and we're doing these deals. They're doing a
Speaker 1: deal to get money. You know what I'm saying, That's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm doing these deals based off legacy, what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: leave behind and what's example? How can I how can
Speaker 1: I bought somebody up a part of my team? How
Speaker 1: can I make you the CEO? Now? How can I
Speaker 1: make you the CEO? Now? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: How can I make you an A and al? Now?
Speaker 1: How can I make you a artists? Now? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And by the time that's come out,
Speaker 1: I want to shout out to um the newest member
Speaker 1: of the family. Haiti, baby, we just signed him to CET.
Speaker 1: We just signed to def jams and shout out the
Speaker 1: hat baby superstar. He's going shout out to nod Well.
Speaker 1: Everything we got going shut up, shut up to and
Speaker 1: let me just tell you jeez. You know, um hold,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this to a little I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: then m hm. So I'm gonna tell you something. This
Speaker 1: how Farrell into his interview. So I'm kind of in
Speaker 1: yours with this way for Rall knows me for a
Speaker 1: long time and me and he made history together. So
Speaker 1: looks and says, where's your wife had? And then he
Speaker 1: looks and he goes, he goes. His transition came for you,
Speaker 1: His transition came, he said, My transition came from her.
Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to say is I want to
Speaker 1: pick up your wife. I want to figure up show.
Speaker 1: I know that they don't want to go to through
Speaker 1: family issues, but as a fan, as a married street dude,
Speaker 1: I want to salute you because I gotta give it
Speaker 1: a white belt props because you got a lot to
Speaker 1: do with that as well. So shut and that's it.
Speaker 1: Come on, let's let's wrap this motherfucker. Listen, I got
Speaker 1: I got I got fifty. More questions are in the promo,
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