WEBVTT - The Thousand-Day Conclave

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised. In the

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<v Speaker 1>early evening on May eighth, twenty twenty five, white smoke

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<v Speaker 1>billowed from the Sistine Chapel in Rome. A new pope

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<v Speaker 1>had been elected. Onlookers in the Vatican City and across

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<v Speaker 1>the world waited with bated breath for over an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes trained on the central logia of Saint Peter's Basilica,

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<v Speaker 1>where the new Pontiff's identity and regnal name would be announced.

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<v Speaker 1>After fewer than two days of voting. Before too long,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Dominique Mamberti emerged to share with the world that

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<v Speaker 1>the new head of the Catholic Church would be the

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<v Speaker 1>former Cardinal Robert Privost, now Leo the fourteenth. As Momberti

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<v Speaker 1>put it in the traditional Latin, we have a new pope.

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<v Speaker 1>This papal conclave, which turned out to be among the

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<v Speaker 1>shortest in history, although not the shortest and not too

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<v Speaker 1>much shorter than the previous two papal elections, inspired a

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<v Speaker 1>great deal of public interest. Leo's predecessor, Pope Francis, was

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<v Speaker 1>a widely beloved figure, and many people in the Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>world and beyond were deeply invested in whether and how

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<v Speaker 1>the new pontiff would carry on his legacy. Perhaps spurred

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<v Speaker 1>on by the success of the twenty twenty four film Conclave,

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<v Speaker 1>many people were also intrigued by the rituals and secrecy

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<v Speaker 1>defining the election process to select a new pope. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>many of the rules governing this two day conclave and

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<v Speaker 1>every conclave for hundreds of years, stem from the events

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<v Speaker 1>of a single papal election in the past, the long

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<v Speaker 1>conclave in history, and in many ways, the first conclave

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<v Speaker 1>in history started in twelve sixty eight and took nearly

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<v Speaker 1>three years, changing the way hopes are chosen forever. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Danish Schwartz and this is noble blood. Clement the Fourth

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<v Speaker 1>was on his deathbed. It was twelve sixty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>he had sat on the throne of Saint Peter for

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<v Speaker 1>just under four years. He had lived a full life.

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<v Speaker 1>He had fought in war, studied law, married and had

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<v Speaker 1>two daughters, all before becoming a widower and joining the church.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had made some important achievements during his reign,

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<v Speaker 1>having summoned the now Saint Thomas aquinas to serve as

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<v Speaker 1>papal theologian, and he made strides towards diplomatic relations with

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<v Speaker 1>the Mongols. Despite his achievements, however, much of Clement's pontificate

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<v Speaker 1>had been defined by the conflict between the papal loyalist

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<v Speaker 1>Guelphs and the anti papal Ghibelines. You might remember those

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<v Speaker 1>factions from our episode on the Cannibal Count of Pisa,

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<v Speaker 1>who by this time was already beginning to betray his

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<v Speaker 1>Gibeline sympathies. The election in which Clement had become Pope,

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<v Speaker 1>which began in twelve sixty four and lasted around four months,

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<v Speaker 1>had seen significant debate among the College of Cardinals about

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<v Speaker 1>how best to protect the papacy from Gibeline threats. Clement,

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<v Speaker 1>who was French in origin, in fact, had had to

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<v Speaker 1>travel to Italy in disguise upon his election to the

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<v Speaker 1>papacy in order to protect himself from Gibeline violence. Clement

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<v Speaker 1>had reigned throughout the entirety of his pontificate from Viterbo,

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<v Speaker 1>a city fifty miles northwest of Rome, which had been

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<v Speaker 1>the seat of the papacy since twelve fifty seven, when

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Alexander the fourth had moved the papal curia there

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of excessive violence in Rome. That violence

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<v Speaker 1>in Rome had continued during the papacy of Clement's immediate predecessor,

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<v Speaker 1>Urban the Fourth, and into Clement's papacy. In fifteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>Clement had overseen the completion of construction begun under Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>the Fourth and commissioned by the Viturban Captain of the people,

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<v Speaker 1>to convert the bishop's palace in Viturbo into a bonafide

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<v Speaker 1>papal residence, which became known as the Palazzo de Puppy

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<v Speaker 1>or the Palace of the Popes. Clement was devoted to

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<v Speaker 1>protecting the independence of the papacy. Most notably, he allied

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<v Speaker 1>with Charles the First of Anjou, the younger brother of

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<v Speaker 1>King Louis the ninth of France, in his controversial conquest

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<v Speaker 1>of Naples, offering him the throne in exchange for an

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledgment of the pope as the feudal lord. Fortified with

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<v Speaker 1>papal support and papal funding, Charles defeated the Holy Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Emperor's illegitimate son and heir, Manfred, King of Sicily, whose

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<v Speaker 1>Gibelin ties as a member of the powerful Hohenstauffen family

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<v Speaker 1>and refusal to acknowledge the Pope's feudal power had made

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<v Speaker 1>him an enemy of the Holy See. Manfred had usurped

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<v Speaker 1>power from his young nephew Conradin, the last legitimate heir

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<v Speaker 1>of the House of Hohenstauffen. Manfred was killed by Charles's

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<v Speaker 1>forces in the Battle of Benevento in twelve sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>allowing Charles to take control of Naples. Conradin, who had

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<v Speaker 1>been a teenager at that time, attempted to reclaim Naples

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<v Speaker 1>and was captured some two years later in the Battle

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<v Speaker 1>of Tagliacozzo. He was imprisoned and eventually publicly beheaded on

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<v Speaker 1>Charles's orders on October twenty ninth, twelve sixty eight. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>detractors would spread the rumor that Clement the Pope had

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<v Speaker 1>supported Charles's ruthless tactics, decrying his complicity in the death

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<v Speaker 1>of the young king, but in fact, Clement had actually

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<v Speaker 1>pleaded for Charles to have mercy on the boy. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>by allowing Charles to take control of Naples, Clement cemented

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<v Speaker 1>French power in Italy, which many cardinals saw as a

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<v Speaker 1>threat to the independence of the papacy and that of

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<v Speaker 1>the Italian city states they hailed from in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly one month after conrad In's beheading, on November twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve sixty eight, Clement died following what was report cowardly

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<v Speaker 1>a brief illness. Despite the achievements of his pontificate, he

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<v Speaker 1>left behind not only the vacant throne of Saint Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a cardinalate divided on how best to fill it.

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<v Speaker 1>In twelve sixty eight, the Sacred College boasted twenty cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen of whom participated in the papal election. The twentieth

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<v Speaker 1>was busy accompanying Louis the ninth of France on his

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<v Speaker 1>crusade in Tunisia. In keeping with the tradition of holding

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<v Speaker 1>the papal election in the city where the previous pope

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<v Speaker 1>had died, the nineteen cardinals made their way to Viterbo

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<v Speaker 1>in late November, once word had reached them of the

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<v Speaker 1>death of Clement the Fourth. The cardinals oversaw his burial

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<v Speaker 1>in the Dominican convent of Santa Maria in Grotti, which

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<v Speaker 1>stood just outside of the city. Before beginning the election

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<v Speaker 1>proceedings just two days after his death on December one,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve six eight. Immediately it became clear that this conclave

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<v Speaker 1>would not be straightforward. Along with the cardinal's arrival at

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<v Speaker 1>Come that of Charles of Anjou, the newly crowned and

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<v Speaker 1>bloodthirsty King of Naples. Clement had underestimated Charles's ambitions for

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<v Speaker 1>an Italian empire, and with the Pope's death, Charles had

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<v Speaker 1>seen an opportunity to continue to consolidate power. He came

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<v Speaker 1>to the Terbo with the intention of influencing the papal election.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue of Charles's presence and his clear intentions for

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<v Speaker 1>the election and thereafter quickly became the central issue dividing

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<v Speaker 1>the cardinals. It's impossible to note the numbers with any accuracy,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems that there was an even enough split

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<v Speaker 1>between those who wanted to continue the pro French tradition

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<v Speaker 1>of the previous two popes and those who wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>divorce the papacy from Charles's influence, not to mention those

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<v Speaker 1>who were out to elevate their own allies, countrymen, and

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<v Speaker 1>family members. The election was essentially deadlocked from the start.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, the cardinals passed freely between the cathedral and

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<v Speaker 1>their lodgings. They held only one vote each day, which

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<v Speaker 1>day after day resulted in nothing but further tensions and

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<v Speaker 1>no clear front runner for pope. Although we know very

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<v Speaker 1>little about the actual deliberations or candidates considered for the papacy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's likely that at least a few of the cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>present were considered a pobbulate or potential candidates for pope.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it was not necessary to be a cardinal to

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<v Speaker 1>be elected pope technically it still isn't, and other important

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<v Speaker 1>figures in the church hierarchy were considered. Given the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the cardinals were free to move about as they pleased,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also likely that they were subject to outside pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and influence, perhaps most notably from Charles, who would remain

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<v Speaker 1>in Viturbo throughout the election proceedings. Later sources would have

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<v Speaker 1>it that two months in the cardinals nearly agreed on

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<v Speaker 1>electing Philippo Benitzi, the general of the Servite Order. It's

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<v Speaker 1>likely that this story isn't true and was rather a

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<v Speaker 1>fabrication meant to support Benitzi's later canonization, but he supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>came to Viturbo in early twelve sixty nine to scold

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<v Speaker 1>the cardinals for dragging their feet in the electoral process.

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<v Speaker 1>They were apparently so impressed with Benizzi that they chose

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<v Speaker 1>him to fill the empty papal throne, but he fled

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<v Speaker 1>the city to prevent his election, forcing the cardinals back

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<v Speaker 1>to square one. A similar, also likely untrue story of

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<v Speaker 1>near election would also crop up long after the fact,

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<v Speaker 1>concerning Saint Bonaventure, then known as Giovanni di Fidanza. In

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<v Speaker 1>any case, no pope was indeed elected in those first

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<v Speaker 1>few months, and the voting continued apace. Just under a

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<v Speaker 1>year after the election had begun. A new wrench was

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<v Speaker 1>thrown into the proceedings when one of the electors died.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Giordano Pironti died of unknown causes on October one,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve sixty nine, at about fifty nine years old. He

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<v Speaker 1>had updated his will a few weeks prior, so he

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<v Speaker 1>may have been ill, and with his death only eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>electors remained, an even number that did not bode well

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<v Speaker 1>for breaking any future ties. It seems Cardinal Perunti's death

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<v Speaker 1>was something of a turning point for the secular authorities

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<v Speaker 1>in Viturbo, though it would take them several more months

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<v Speaker 1>to take action. Around June twelve seventy, after the anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>of the last pope's death came and went, and the

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<v Speaker 1>erstwhile cardinals entered their twentieth month of unsuccessful voting. Raniero Gatti,

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<v Speaker 1>the prefect of Atterbo, and Albertus de Montebono, the Podesta

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<v Speaker 1>ordered that the remaining electors be sequestered in the Polazza

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<v Speaker 1>de Pappi until they could choose the Pope's successor once

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<v Speaker 1>and for all. These were drastic times, and the time

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<v Speaker 1>at a long passed for drastic measures, and before long

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<v Speaker 1>it would seem that even more drastic measures would be

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<v Speaker 1>needed to get these cardinals to finally make their choice.

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<v Speaker 1>In the late summer of twelve seventy one, a teenage

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Polo was just beginning the journey that would cement

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<v Speaker 1>him as one of history's most famous travelers. He had

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<v Speaker 1>set off from Venice with his father Nicolo and his

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<v Speaker 1>uncle Mafeo, and after a short eastward journey across the Mediterranean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had arrived in the fortified city of Accer, a

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<v Speaker 1>Crusader stronghold on the Levantine coastline. It was there that

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<v Speaker 1>they met Archdeacon Toobaldo Visconti of Piacenza, who had followed Edward,

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<v Speaker 1>the First of England to Occer in the Ninth Crusade

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that year. During their visit, the Polos lamented to

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<v Speaker 1>the archdeacon that the papal throne was still vacant after

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<v Speaker 1>over two years of fruitless voting. Marco's father and uncle

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<v Speaker 1>had previously traveled to China, where the Emperor Kubla Khan

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<v Speaker 1>had given them a letter for the pope. They had

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<v Speaker 1>been disappointed to return in twelve sixty nine to find

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<v Speaker 1>that they still had no one to give it to.

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<v Speaker 1>That was almost two years ago. Now Here, The brothers

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<v Speaker 1>were making their way eastward again, now with Marco and

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<v Speaker 1>still no news from Viterbo. They had been shocked when

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<v Speaker 1>an elector died in twelve sixty nine, and even more

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<v Speaker 1>so some six months later, when the viturban authorities ordered

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<v Speaker 1>that the remaining cardinals be locked away in the Palazza

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<v Speaker 1>de Poppy to complete their election. Around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was suggested, supposedly by the English cardinal John of Toledo,

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<v Speaker 1>that the roof of the voting chamber in the palazzo

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<v Speaker 1>should be removed, saying, let us uncover the room, else

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<v Speaker 1>the holy ghost will never get at us. For you

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<v Speaker 1>papal election fans following along at home. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>first recorded reference to the now essential idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Spirit guides the election of popes. It was also

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that the elector's rations be reduced to just bread

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<v Speaker 1>and water for the remainder of the election. The magistrates

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<v Speaker 1>of the Turbo agreed, likely hoping that some scorching sun,

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<v Speaker 1>torrential rain, and stupefying hunger would guide the electors in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the Holy Spirit. Of course, the cardinals petitioned

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<v Speaker 1>the magistrates that Cardinal Henry of Segusio be excused from

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<v Speaker 1>the remainder of the election due to health concerns, which

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<v Speaker 1>would have been exacerbated by having to spend every day

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<v Speaker 1>hungry and exposed to the elements. He had renounced his

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<v Speaker 1>right to vote, and his request was granted. The remaining

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen cardinals were locked into the palace, the doors and

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<v Speaker 1>windows barred, and the roof of the voting chamber was removed.

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<v Speaker 1>Some sources say that a makeshift roof was later added

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<v Speaker 1>back onto the election chamber after the cardinal threatened to

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<v Speaker 1>excommunicate the entire city, but it seems that they actually

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<v Speaker 1>at least took their new diet in stride. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time Marco Polo, his father, and his uncle met with

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<v Speaker 1>the Archdeacon in Ocher in twelve seventy one, it had

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<v Speaker 1>been almost a year since the cardinal electors had been

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<v Speaker 1>locked up. In that time, yet another cardinal elector had

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<v Speaker 1>died East van BankSA. The first cardinal to hail from Hungary,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Henry of Segusio, had enough time to fully recuperate

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<v Speaker 1>and return to Viturbo to resume voting. King Louis the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth of France died and was succeeded by his son Philip,

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<v Speaker 1>who became Philip the Third. In his as yet unanswered

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<v Speaker 1>letter to the as yet unanswered Pope, Kublai Khan had

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<v Speaker 1>requested the dispatch of a hundred missionaries and some oil

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<v Speaker 1>from the lamp of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem to

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<v Speaker 1>his court in where is now known as Beijing. The

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<v Speaker 1>polos told Archdeacon Visconti of those requests and of their

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<v Speaker 1>predicament in having to wait so long to make good

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<v Speaker 1>on them, because there wasn't a pope to ask. The

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<v Speaker 1>Archdeacon told the Polo family to bide their time by

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to Jerusalem to fetch the oil first, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>by the time they finished and returned there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a new pope. They did that and returned to Aker

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<v Speaker 1>to find that a pope still had not been chosen.

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<v Speaker 1>Unable to justify keeping the Polos from their journey indefinitely,

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<v Speaker 1>the scanti sent them on their way. The Polos did

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<v Speaker 1>not make it far, however, before receiving an urgent message

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<v Speaker 1>to return to Occer. In August twelve seventy one, under

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<v Speaker 1>pressure from the new King, Philip the Third and Charles

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<v Speaker 1>of Anjou, the authorities in Viturbo, and just about everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinal electors had decided to choose the pope by committee,

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<v Speaker 1>selecting six among their numbers and agreeing to abide by

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<v Speaker 1>whatever decision they came to through this method. On September one,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve seventy one, after one thousand and six days of voting,

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<v Speaker 1>they finally came to a decision from the roofless Palace

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<v Speaker 1>in Viterbo. The message of the cardinal's choice, traveled across

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<v Speaker 1>the Mediterranean to Accer with the archdeacon, who was not

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<v Speaker 1>a cardinal or even a priest, was notified that he

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<v Speaker 1>had been chosen to fill the papal throne that had

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<v Speaker 1>been empty for nearly three years. As someone with some

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<v Speaker 1>ties to France, but not so many that he would

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<v Speaker 1>be a puppet of the French crown or of Charles

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<v Speaker 1>of Anjou, he was an unexpected candidate that apparently was

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<v Speaker 1>satisfying enough for all parties. It is unknown how long

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<v Speaker 1>his name had been in contention, but the struggle of

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth Cardinal Committee to select a pope from among

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<v Speaker 1>the cardinal electors at first suggests he may have been

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<v Speaker 1>a last minute consideration. The Polos made it back to

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<v Speaker 1>Ocher not long after, and were received warmly by their friend,

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<v Speaker 1>who had suddenly become the head of the church and

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<v Speaker 1>the prince of the papal states. He formally designated them

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<v Speaker 1>envoys of the Church to Kubla Khan and sent them

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<v Speaker 1>on their journey with two friars and a collection of

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<v Speaker 1>gifts meant to demonstrate his hopes for friendly relations with

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<v Speaker 1>the emperor. He offered a special blessing to Marco, by

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<v Speaker 1>which the young traveler was reportedly greatly pleased. Tebaldo Visconti

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<v Speaker 1>left to Ocer on November ninth, twelve seventy one, and

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<v Speaker 1>reached Viturbo some months later on February twelfth, twelve seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>where he took the regnal name Gregory the Tenth, breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the years long absence of the popes from Rome. He

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<v Speaker 1>entered the city a month later in March, and was

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<v Speaker 1>ordained a priest six days later. Finally, on March twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve seventy two, over three years after the death of

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<v Speaker 1>the previous pope, he was consecrated a bishop and crowned

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<v Speaker 1>in Saint Peter's Basilica. Gregory's papacy lasted for only a

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<v Speaker 1>little over four years. His reign was consequential. On July seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve seventy four, his papal bull Ubi Periculum, named for

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<v Speaker 1>its opening line Ubi perikulum maius in ten detour, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>where great danger lies, codified many of the practices desperately

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<v Speaker 1>undertaken to speed along his election as standard practice for

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<v Speaker 1>the election of future popes. In addition to already established

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<v Speaker 1>practices like the rule requiring a two thirds majority for

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<v Speaker 1>a ballot to pass. Gregory ordained that the cardinal electors

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<v Speaker 1>should be sequestered for the duration of the election, specified

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<v Speaker 1>the provision of increasingly spare rations the longer the proceedings endured,

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<v Speaker 1>and placed various restrictions meant to both speed proceedings and

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<v Speaker 1>prevent political intrigue, bribery, and deal making, among other new rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Although some later popes would lift these restrictions, Gregory's bull

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<v Speaker 1>would go on to be codified into canon law in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve ninety eight, and though conclave practices have seen many

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<v Speaker 1>changes and updates since, it remains a foundational part of

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<v Speaker 1>the way modern papal elections are conducted. Gregory the Tenth

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<v Speaker 1>died in the Tuscan city of Atritzo on January tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve seventy six, in accordance with his bull, which specified

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<v Speaker 1>that the election should begin ten days later if all

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<v Speaker 1>electors had arrived at his place of death by then.

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<v Speaker 1>The conclave convened right on schedule on January twentieth. It

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<v Speaker 1>concluded with the election of Pope Innocent the Fifth just

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<v Speaker 1>one day later. That's the story of the longest ever

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<v Speaker 1>papal election. But keep listening after a brief sponsor break

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about another fascinating aspect of the legacy of

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory the tenth. Among the many questions that arose in

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<v Speaker 1>the weeks leading up to leo The fourteenth election, what

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<v Speaker 1>the new Pope's stance would be on social and doctrinal issues,

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<v Speaker 1>where he would hail from, et cetera, was the question

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<v Speaker 1>what would he wear. A pope's first public appearance has

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<v Speaker 1>always been his first statement to the world, a declaration

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<v Speaker 1>of what kind of pope he would be, even before

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<v Speaker 1>he opened his mouth. When Leo's predecessor, Pope Francis, was

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<v Speaker 1>elected in twenty thirteen, he famously bucked tradition by foregoing

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<v Speaker 1>the red muzeta and ornate stole typically worn by newly

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<v Speaker 1>elected popes and appearing in a simple white cossack, a

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<v Speaker 1>move that endeared him to many who believed the papacy

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<v Speaker 1>too removed from the lives and experiences of the common people.

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<v Speaker 1>While Leo's Ubi et orbi address, which means to the

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<v Speaker 1>city and the world, the first address made by newly

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<v Speaker 1>elected popes, reflected a clear desire to continue France's legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>he chose to wear the mozetta and the stole, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>symbolizing that he also intended to put his own stamp

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<v Speaker 1>on the papacy. But since then he's mostly been seen

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<v Speaker 1>wearing just the white cossack, as is standard for most

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<v Speaker 1>everyday papal duties like meeting with foreign dignitaries, greeting worshippers,

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<v Speaker 1>or riding in the popemobile. And in fact we have

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<v Speaker 1>our old friend Gregory the Tenth to thank for that

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<v Speaker 1>important part of papal sartorial history. While garments like the

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<v Speaker 1>mozetta or the mitra the big hat that the pope

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<v Speaker 1>and bishops wear during certain liturgical celebrations have been worn

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<v Speaker 1>by popes since at least the eleventh century, if not before,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Gregory who is first documented wearing the white

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<v Speaker 1>cassock during his reign. Over seven hundred years later, it

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<v Speaker 1>remained an iconic symbol of the papacy. Talk about a trendsetter.

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