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Speaker 2: another episode of Nightcap. The Indiana Pacers take a commanding
Speaker 2: three to one lead one thirty one. Boy, what a
Speaker 2: night for Tyrese Halliburton, Pascal Siakam and ben Adict Mattburn.
Speaker 1: They carried the Pacers to a victory and.
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Speaker 2: beat the Knicks to take a three to one series lead.
Speaker 2: They head back to MSG advanced to the first NBA
Speaker 2: Finals since two thousand.
Speaker 1: The first player in.
Speaker 2: NBA history with a triple double and zero turnovers in
Speaker 2: the Conference finals. Tyrese Halliburton. We talked about o chod
Speaker 2: the other night. He needed to be more aggressive that
Speaker 2: he was. That was not aggressive what he had the
Speaker 2: other night. Tonight he had fifteen in the first court.
Speaker 2: He had twenty in the first half. I say, now,
Speaker 2: this is the Tyreese Halliburton that I wanted to see
Speaker 2: in Game three.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. He showed up tonight thirty two.
Speaker 2: Points, fifteen assents, twelve rebounds, zero turnover. Pascal Siakam said,
Speaker 2: it ain't no fun if I can't have nothing bad. Hey,
Speaker 2: let me come to the party. Two thirty points, five rebounds,
Speaker 2: two assists. Are still in a block. He was eleven
Speaker 2: to twenty one from the floor, three or four from
Speaker 2: the three point line, five or six from the free
Speaker 2: throw line. Hey, Miles Turner, he had thirteen. But Matthburg
Speaker 2: played his best game in a long, long time in
Speaker 2: only twelve minutes. Five of eight from the floor, ten
Speaker 2: of eleven from the free throw line, twenty big points.
Speaker 1: Oh till we talked the other night.
Speaker 2: Also, Joe, you were on I said, oh till look,
Speaker 2: they only had four guys of double figures. They had
Speaker 2: five to night and see that team sixteen thirteen. But
Speaker 2: you got thirty two from Halliburton, you got thirty from Siakam,
Speaker 2: and you got twenty from Mathburn and that was enough
Speaker 2: to overcome the thirty one points that Jaylen Bronson had.
Speaker 2: Kat had another big game again, twenty four points, twelve rebounds,
Speaker 2: Og had twenty two miles, Michel Bridges at seventeen. Josh
Speaker 2: off the bench was twelve and eleven, but it was
Speaker 2: not enough. The Pacers basically lead from start to finish,
Speaker 2: and they just have that ability to, like when the
Speaker 2: game get close, to take off and make a double
Speaker 2: digit again. Yeah, Joe, what did you like about what
Speaker 2: the Pacers did tonight?
Speaker 1: Man Ocho?
Speaker 2: I just it seemed like the Pacers understood the assignment, especially.
Speaker 1: Halli Berd, Siakam, you know them.
Speaker 2: Them dudes came out, Nate Smith, they came out and
Speaker 2: set the tone early, you know what I mean, They
Speaker 2: got off to a pretty good start. I thought, can't
Speaker 2: getting in foul trouble early, you know, hurt the Knicks.
Speaker 2: But you get Mather and coming off the bench playing
Speaker 2: the way he's been playing, the way he played tonight.
Speaker 1: He hadn't played well this series. He had not, he
Speaker 1: has not. This was a great coming out party for him.
Speaker 1: He was aggressive.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna tell y'all another thing I like about
Speaker 2: Mather and he kind of he a little borderline dirty.
Speaker 2: He a little boreder Oh yeah, hurt Hey, Hey, but
Speaker 2: I love it though, Ocho. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because for the Pacers, they got a lot of dolls
Speaker 2: over there. Man, he came off that bench and he
Speaker 2: gave him everything that they needed. I thought his energy effort,
Speaker 2: you know, carried over throughout the whole entire game and
Speaker 2: HALLI Bert was unbelievable. I mean the triple not just
Speaker 2: an average triple double, that's a big dog triple double. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, no turnovers, no turnover. That
Speaker 2: was a fifteen assists and no turnovers. And if you
Speaker 2: if he got fifteen assists, that means he's helping other
Speaker 2: guys get off, you get eat.
Speaker 1: You had plenty of help tonight.
Speaker 2: I thought he got off to a great start and
Speaker 2: he was he was very aggressive today in game four
Speaker 2: versus you know, last game game three. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he heard you guys, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 2: came out with it on his mind, and ultimately he
Speaker 2: controlled the game from start to finish. He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I got Pops back. They three pops, they poppled it
Speaker 2: up pop right here.
Speaker 1: He hey, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: He had to spend eight days in the county and
Speaker 2: so you know, they got him up out the county
Speaker 2: and so now you saw what he did. He was
Speaker 2: asked after the game whether having his dad back in
Speaker 2: the building helped them in game four? Hell yeah, Aeron
Speaker 2: Neith Smith. Remember the other night Nie Smith and Nim
Speaker 2: Hard they didn't play well. Both of those guys were
Speaker 2: in single digit. Now you get Aaron Neith Smith. He
Speaker 2: gave you sixteen big points. And when you combined, because
Speaker 2: they're basically they're killing the knicks off the bench, you
Speaker 2: got Matthron had twenty. That's twenty. Let's see eight ten,
Speaker 2: that's thirty. They got thirty six points off the bench tonight.
Speaker 2: When you combined the thirty six points off the bench,
Speaker 2: and you got a thirty two point performance from Tyreese Halliburton,
Speaker 2: you got a thirty point performance from Pascal Siaka.
Speaker 1: That's sixty two points.
Speaker 2: Right there, but from your big guns, and you got
Speaker 2: thirty six off the bench. So now if my starters
Speaker 2: give me anything, I got sixteen from Nate Smith, I
Speaker 2: got thirteen from a excuse me, Miles Turner. Now you
Speaker 2: really needed to have Jalen Brunson and Cats to have
Speaker 2: one of those forty three point thirty six point game
Speaker 2: to try to overcome what the Pacers do collectively. O Joe,
Speaker 2: the Knicks fault. I mean, they got it down, they
Speaker 2: cut it down and got it down in like five,
Speaker 2: but then again, the Pacers could just run away with it.
Speaker 2: What do you think happened with the Knicks this game?
Speaker 2: Because it seemed like they came out, tried to keep
Speaker 2: it close for as long as they could, but it
Speaker 2: just seemed like they don't have that gear that the
Speaker 2: that the Pacers have, and they don't have the gear,
Speaker 2: and they also don't have the consistency off the bench.
Speaker 3: Jalen Brustling has to be on point. Cat, you gotta
Speaker 3: stop with the dumb files. You know, I'm looking at Cat.
Speaker 3: You grab you're grabbing people's arm.
Speaker 1: You down there rastling in the paint instead of you're
Speaker 1: sitting there rastling the paint with your arm in the air.
Speaker 3: Just just reset your arm, man, just reset your arm.
Speaker 3: Unnecessary files being called. The first three quarters they did.
Speaker 3: Let's you know, let's talk about the first half, Nick did,
Speaker 3: but they could.
Speaker 1: To keep the game close.
Speaker 3: But toward that they ended towards the end of each quarter,
Speaker 3: they god damn they are not only are they Knicks
Speaker 3: losing the transition towards the end of each quarter. In
Speaker 3: the first half, they got damn pacers going and goddamn run, Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 3: going to run the end the goddamn quarter. The third quarter,
Speaker 3: same thing in the third quarter, the goddamn pacis they
Speaker 3: try to keep it close, the paces going and goddamn
Speaker 3: running in the goddamned quarter. And in the four they
Speaker 3: did what they needed to do, but that god damn Halliburton. Now,
Speaker 3: we just had a conversation last night, Joe. You know,
Speaker 3: we talked about superstars versus star and my dumb ass
Speaker 3: had the nerve to say he's not in the conversation
Speaker 3: with the superstars in the league based on tonight's performance,
Speaker 3: not knowing just one game, but he's been very consistent
Speaker 3: in it's in it's play throughout the whole season, not
Speaker 3: just what we saw from the night. But I think
Speaker 3: we need to have a conversation again about Halliburton being
Speaker 3: a superstar and not just a star. I called him
Speaker 3: just a star last night. And man, listen what he
Speaker 3: was able to do tonight. Man Siakam, that god damn
Speaker 3: nim Hard.
Speaker 1: You know he contributed as well.
Speaker 3: Stressed to goddamn, stressed to goddamn New York defense. Make
Speaker 3: it easy for everybody else offensively, for the Pacers to
Speaker 3: be able to shoot their shot.
Speaker 2: To the man, hey, we talked. We talked about Pascal Siakam.
Speaker 2: In game two, he had thirty nine big points and
Speaker 2: then he come up a little small in game three
Speaker 2: and he's like, no, Pascal, now I'm not asking you
Speaker 2: to go get thirty but I will take thirty one.
Speaker 2: But he played. He was aggressive. He was aggressive tonight,
Speaker 2: and that's what the Pacers need. They need their The
Speaker 2: first of all, your two best players need to carry you.
Speaker 2: It's really as simple as that. And then whatever we
Speaker 2: get from and whatever we get from the Nise Mills,
Speaker 2: whatever we get from the nim Hard, the matth Burns
Speaker 2: and the Miles Turner. But your two best players gotta
Speaker 2: do the heavy lifting. When the Lakers, it was Kobe
Speaker 2: and Shack doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Robert
Speaker 2: Dorry chipped in, Dark Fisher, Chip Ben Rick Fox, Chip
Speaker 2: be In. They had a lot of guys chipping in,
Speaker 2: but your two guns got the fire. When you talking
Speaker 2: about the heat, just a second, O Joe, we talked
Speaker 2: about the heat. It was d Wade and Lebron for
Speaker 2: the most part. And then we go get Chris Bosco
Speaker 2: chip in. Then we gonna get Mike Miller helping out.
Speaker 2: We'll get a you know what, a real give us
Speaker 2: one of them twenty point games. We need that right now.
Speaker 2: But your big guns need to fire more time than
Speaker 2: often and again in this ball game. That's what happened.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, O Joe, Yo.
Speaker 3: Joe, I got a question for you, and I got
Speaker 3: a question for you two and those in the chat
Speaker 3: that understand the game of basketball. How come Pascal Siakam
Speaker 3: and Halliburton could look the way they did tonight understanding
Speaker 3: that we both have to play well, we both have
Speaker 3: to be aggressive.
Speaker 1: That's the top two guns.
Speaker 3: And then we watched the goddamn Wolves last night and
Speaker 3: Julius Random and Anthony Edwards understanding they need to have
Speaker 3: games similar to what passed out and goddamn Halliburton had tonight.
Speaker 3: Why did much easier or it seems much easier for
Speaker 3: and Halliburton to do what they did tonight as opposed
Speaker 3: to Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall is are we saying?
Speaker 1: Is is the Knicks.
Speaker 3: That's saft or that no dear of an opponent as
Speaker 3: opposed to the goddamn thunder where it seems Anthony Edwards
Speaker 3: and goddamn Julius to do what they do, And.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Obviously, I know everybody gets
Speaker 1: paid to play the game.
Speaker 3: But when I think about Anthony Edwards, as great as
Speaker 3: he is, he should be able to do what Halliburton
Speaker 3: did tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think Anthony l was in Julius run.
Speaker 2: Especially think it was because they corraling and trapping him
Speaker 2: so much, making him give up the ball.
Speaker 1: He gotta pick his spots a lot faster.
Speaker 2: Ocho, you know what I mean, Like once you get
Speaker 2: a crease, you got to go on the tack because yes,
Speaker 2: they sitting. The one thing they not gonna do, they
Speaker 2: not gonna let him play. So yep, he making the
Speaker 2: right play. He getting off the ball. He getting other
Speaker 2: guys involved, but uh uh, they doing what They're doing
Speaker 2: what they wanted as far as holding him to where
Speaker 2: he's not that effective offensively, the way he's not exploding. Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: If mcdane's gonna beat us, we're gonna let him beat us.
Speaker 2: If if these other these other guys gonna beat us,
Speaker 2: we're gonna let them.
Speaker 1: But we're not gonna let you play this series.
Speaker 2: But back to the Knicks and paces, I think the
Speaker 2: pace is just it was too It was too fast
Speaker 2: for the Knicks to start the game.
Speaker 1: They they can't keep up with that pace.
Speaker 2: Many they look good that first half, that first quarter,
Speaker 2: second quarter, but I knew at some point it would
Speaker 2: catch up to him. And to start the third quarter
Speaker 2: they come out here just careless mist that that the
Speaker 2: Pacers made him pay for it. They were on thirteen, oh,
Speaker 2: run that quick next thing, you know, not in an
Speaker 2: uphill climb. Well, they don't have that type of firepower
Speaker 2: to really fight back. I know, you know, the home
Speaker 2: team hasn't played great in this series. But I just
Speaker 2: felt like the Pacers understood many were they were. They
Speaker 2: were aggressive from the start and they knew what was
Speaker 2: his stake. They knew they couldn't go back to New
Speaker 2: York with no ties, with no tied up series, so
Speaker 2: they played like it tonight. Hey, look, we gotta get
Speaker 2: Nate Smith. A lot of credit to man. I know,
Speaker 2: we all deal with injuries throughout our career. And when
Speaker 2: you roll that ankle on the side of that ankle
Speaker 2: sit on their floor like that. Hey, man, that's tough
Speaker 2: to come. That's tough to it with, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I don't know if they shot him up,
Speaker 2: but I thought he got off to a great start
Speaker 2: oo to start the game. I thought his defense was great,
Speaker 2: big threes, his defense was great on Brunton, he made shots,
Speaker 2: and he was still active. He was still active on
Speaker 2: both ends. Man, the Pacers look good tonight, Guys.
Speaker 1: They look good.
Speaker 2: They look like a team who's prepared to, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of finish the series off. And I just I
Speaker 2: just loved everything about it night.
Speaker 1: Hey. I agree.
Speaker 3: Now you think about the length and and how good
Speaker 3: obviously I'm assuming, well, I'm not sure that the nick
Speaker 3: can come back and win this series. How how good
Speaker 3: and lengthy the defense is for the Thunder Do you
Speaker 3: still think they'll be able to have the game of basketball,
Speaker 3: the game of runs, the transition, the second chance points
Speaker 3: as they had against the Knicks against the Thunder being
Speaker 3: that I think they're better suited.
Speaker 2: The Thunder match up better because the Thundering defenders got
Speaker 2: so you got Door, you got Jaylen Williams, you got Wiggins, No,
Speaker 2: you They match up much.
Speaker 1: Better, so much better. So that answers my question. That
Speaker 1: that answer my question again.
Speaker 3: That's why Halliburton and god damn Pascal Siakam look the
Speaker 3: way they do against the Knicks because it's it's somewhat
Speaker 3: of a lopside and match it for them defense.
Speaker 2: Also, har's the thing the what OKC is doing. They're
Speaker 2: not allowing Anthony edwas to play one on one. If
Speaker 2: you want to play two on one, half at it.
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna play one on one. But but
Speaker 2: if you go back and look at look at what
Speaker 2: Shay is doing, then let him play one on one.
Speaker 2: They let him go with mcdanie's you got it, you're
Speaker 2: our best defender. You're taking one on one, bro, he's
Speaker 2: the MVP for a week reason. He had the most
Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty fifty point games this year.
Speaker 1: So you're allowing him.
Speaker 2: You're allowing their best player and the really great players
Speaker 2: all can play one on one. You better not let
Speaker 2: him play one on one, and you better not let
Speaker 2: him get a rhythm early, because if you can let
Speaker 2: him get a ryb of Maryland, I don't care what
Speaker 2: you do to him late, you can't bother. So they've
Speaker 2: already in a group. They've already in the rhythm. Now
Speaker 2: you see. They's like they don't look at Halliburton as
Speaker 2: a superstar. So they gonna let him play one on one.
Speaker 2: They're gonna try to track they they go to that
Speaker 2: drop and getting the ball. Times they tried to trap
Speaker 2: him sometime. But you see, you see how get that three.
Speaker 2: He let the three ball go. He had twelve three
Speaker 2: point on attempts. Now you got to push up on him.
Speaker 2: Now he has the ability to get you see how
Speaker 2: he got to the rim of right value. So you
Speaker 2: got to give up something. And because he had those assists,
Speaker 2: guys were knocking down shots. So they were a lot
Speaker 2: more reluctant. Because remember the other night, O Joe, they
Speaker 2: were five or twenty five from the three tonight they
Speaker 2: were thirteen or thirty two. So that's forty percent versus
Speaker 2: twenty percent. So you see the big difference in that
Speaker 2: because now not only is he aggressive looking for his
Speaker 2: shot when they bring it, he knows where they're coming from.
Speaker 2: Now he's kicking and guys getting wide open look threes.
Speaker 2: He did an unbelievable job tonight of running that offense.
Speaker 2: Guys did a great job of knocking down shots. This
Speaker 2: is what you go get a Passcal siakam for. This
Speaker 2: is what you and this is what you bench your
Speaker 2: role players. You're at home, you're expected to play well.
Speaker 2: Teammate TJ mcconnough, Hey, I know he's gonna give you three.
Speaker 2: He gonna give you six. He gonna play hard, he
Speaker 2: gonna make you the play that's presented to it. But
Speaker 2: past Gal Saiyakan thirty one points five rebounds three or
Speaker 2: four from the three point line. Only Reggie Miller and
Speaker 2: Paul George have more thirty point five rebound playoff games
Speaker 2: as a pacer.
Speaker 1: They really really really needed that tonight.
Speaker 2: They needed past Gal Siaka because you remember when they
Speaker 2: started making that run, it was him that came back
Speaker 2: and it hit that big three. Guys, remember that big three,
Speaker 2: and it pushed the lead right back to team. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I wonder, uh you know, I was when I'm watching,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wonder why pacers started selling for all leads?
Speaker 2: Long three, you up almost, you're up seven? Why you
Speaker 2: keep shooting it? They Haliburton, they shot the three in
Speaker 2: a row. I'm like, man, get to the cup. Man,
Speaker 2: put the pressure on the board. And they in foul
Speaker 2: trouble and I know the player you talking about. They
Speaker 2: were up thirteen and Halliburton came down the court and
Speaker 2: shot a twenty nine footer. Then Manliburg, I'm been to
Speaker 2: break y'all back right now, right? Yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he trying to He trying to get him out of there.
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, after he was playing good, he
Speaker 2: was feeling good, and he shot I thought, what was
Speaker 2: an unill advised shot in the corner.
Speaker 1: You know, because they had the lead, all they gotta
Speaker 1: do is take their time now.
Speaker 2: You know, keep putting pressure on these dudes because they
Speaker 2: all in foul show and they don't want to file.
Speaker 1: So just keep attaching.
Speaker 2: And you're already you're already in the penalty. You got
Speaker 2: them in the penalty, so there's really no need to
Speaker 2: shoot a three. Shoot the three get something going to
Speaker 2: the back. Now, I saw a lot of times they
Speaker 2: called them tiki tax stuff, and then up there sometimes
Speaker 2: they let them play football.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, damn, it's specially.
Speaker 3: Like the team, like the ref choose, they pick and
Speaker 3: choose based on the momentum and what the game is
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't to let them play? Yeah? Yeah, but if you
Speaker 1: think about it, when you think about the game of football.
Speaker 3: Hell, the god damn restling called the goddamn flag on
Speaker 3: every every play, Yeah, every single play if you wanted to,
Speaker 3: if you wanted to be technical. So in basketball, you
Speaker 3: could tell exactly when the rest of letting them boys play,
Speaker 3: you know, on both ends of the court.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Hey, look to me, this like this
Speaker 2: is the best series by far, This is not even
Speaker 2: this is so competitive if.
Speaker 1: Uh, you don't know who's gonna win.
Speaker 2: Because the home teams hadn't been playing great and the
Speaker 2: Pacers came out tonight, like I said, with it on
Speaker 2: they mind knowing that. Man, ain't no way we can
Speaker 2: go back to New York with this series tied to too.
Speaker 2: Sobi Obie Topping hit a big three.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Obie Toping hit that three because it was laid
Speaker 2: out of a Halliburton found him. He backed, he stepped
Speaker 2: back behind the three point line, let it go, shot
Speaker 2: it with confidence and hit that three. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: now now they they're very active on defense too, fellas,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like they getting steals in
Speaker 2: the passing lane. They just wreckon habit, you know, throughout
Speaker 2: the whole game. Even when the Knicks come down and score,
Speaker 2: they still fast breaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, the Pacers still they beating them back
Speaker 1: down the court. I'm like, what do you think doing.
Speaker 2: See, it's such a frantic pace that the Knicks have
Speaker 2: a hard time keeping up, so they have to try
Speaker 2: to find a spot where they can rest. And you
Speaker 2: can't rest on offense because them let you ain't gonna
Speaker 2: let you, because they're looking to push the ball. Joe
Speaker 2: maker me. They'll take it out the net and push it,
Speaker 2: or they'll get it off the glass and push it.
Speaker 1: Yes, So one way or another, they're going to push
Speaker 1: the tempo.
Speaker 2: And that's what and when you're not used to playing
Speaker 2: because a lot of times, you know, got a they
Speaker 2: want to they get that ball, they get to the
Speaker 2: head as soon as they as soon as they possibly
Speaker 2: can because and you see what what you Collini is doing.
Speaker 1: He's trying to play more guys now he knows his.
Speaker 2: Guys's playing at that fanatic place, and it's not conducing
Speaker 2: for playing a lot of minutes. You look at it now,
Speaker 2: he normally plays seven guys. He played No, I'm not
Speaker 2: comming Princess Atchewa the two minutes he played mouth. He
Speaker 2: played nine guys tonight. You see the different you see
Speaker 2: now that pace is like and only og played forty minutes.
Speaker 2: Normally Michel Bridges playing forty three minutes, Jaylen Brunston's playing
Speaker 2: thirty nine to forty one minutes. You see the difference
Speaker 2: in the ball. He tim knows this pace and me
Speaker 2: grinding these guys nine guys and trying to play forty
Speaker 2: plus minutes is really not conducing. Because the pacers play,
Speaker 2: They're gonna play eight, nine, ten guys. That's who they are,
Speaker 2: That's what they've been all year. There's no reason for
Speaker 2: them to deviate from that. But I thought tonight they
Speaker 2: came out on the mission they did not want to
Speaker 2: go back to to the Martinson Square Garden because now
Speaker 2: we really really have an effing series and it says,
Speaker 2: you know, what now if the mindset you gotta have,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to end it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to end it in MSG. I don't want
Speaker 1: to come back.
Speaker 2: I know everybody, well, they want to do it in
Speaker 2: front of the damn my home crowd. Celebrate, go go
Speaker 2: to the arena. I don't know what the arena's called.
Speaker 1: Go there.
Speaker 2: We put it up on the big jumbo tron and
Speaker 2: y'all can watch it and celebrate. No, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: I'm trying to end this. Pay what to the Thursday?
Speaker 2: I think they play Thursday, So I'm trying to end
Speaker 2: it Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know who the pace of Strength and additioning
Speaker 3: coach is, but he need an extra, he need ax,
Speaker 3: You need a bump, and pay a need to bump
Speaker 3: his pay because they basically a four by one team.
Speaker 1: You know the starters going there, they're the first leg.
Speaker 1: Then the bench. Know the bench come in, they the
Speaker 1: second leg.
Speaker 2: All up, build a light Steve Yakham, Halliburton, they all
Speaker 2: built alike. They Miles Turner, They long and angular. They
Speaker 2: got no big they ain't got no heavy set guys. No, no,
Speaker 2: no big body guys. Yeah, and so you know that
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who the GM is, but
Speaker 2: he does a great job. Guys that need to fit.
Speaker 2: We need guys that can and and the thing is
Speaker 2: is that you look at look at say how come
Speaker 2: he can defend Nie Smith. He's there to defend Miles
Speaker 2: Turner can protect the paint h Nim Hark and defend
Speaker 2: Matt Burn.
Speaker 1: He could defend.
Speaker 2: So they got guys, and they got a high flyered
Speaker 2: over topping coming out the bench.
Speaker 1: TJ. McConnell is a pest.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give you everything that he gots.
Speaker 2: And like I said, they really needed this because Matt
Speaker 2: Burn has not been playing. Remember he got kicked out
Speaker 2: of the game in Cleveland with the low blow. I
Speaker 2: think who was that on? Oh it was on the
Speaker 2: guy you got they got from Atlanta, Oh yeah Hunter.
Speaker 1: And so he got kicked out of the game. So
Speaker 1: he really hadn't had a rhythm.
Speaker 2: But he had eleven three throw attempts off the bitch
Speaker 2: that unless you know he he's extremely and he only
Speaker 2: played twelve minutes. That tells me he's extremely aggressive. He's
Speaker 2: looking to get to the cup. He's like, man, my
Speaker 2: shot ain't falling. Let me get something easy. Hey, look
Speaker 2: like somebody was in his end and told him, Hey,
Speaker 2: look man, we need you to come out here, put
Speaker 2: your head down, go to work. And like I said, hey,
Speaker 2: o Joe, he hey not borderline boy, he dirty? He
Speaker 2: but hey, he could play on my team any day,
Speaker 2: hear me.
Speaker 3: Like when you said, when you say dirty, you mean dirty,
Speaker 3: like like Drake, like Drayvon.
Speaker 2: He ain't tried to hurt nobody, but he's trying to
Speaker 2: help nobody up. And he gonna, Hey, he gonna slam
Speaker 2: into the floor and then help you at the same time.
Speaker 2: You all right, Hey, he wanted there, he wanted there.
Speaker 2: Ain't them the worst dudes to play against, because boy,
Speaker 2: they know going out there, hear me, Yeah, yeah, don't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't back down. He does not back down.
Speaker 2: He doesn't matter who the superstar is, who the player
Speaker 2: he's going against. Hes like he feels he belongs on
Speaker 2: the court, and he's gonna play accordingly. So it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if it's Lebron, if it's Kevin the Red or
Speaker 2: whomever he has to guard. It does not matter to him.
Speaker 2: He doesn't let your reputation dictate how he plays the game.
Speaker 2: And that's what you could appreciate about this young man,
Speaker 2: but I thought you they set the temple early. Rick
Speaker 2: Carliles done a great job. You see the guys thirty.
Speaker 2: Halliburton played thirty eight minutes and he played the most minute.
Speaker 2: But you got eighteen minutes from Topping Bradley. Tony Bradley
Speaker 2: gave you ten minutes. McConnell gave you nineteen, Matt bren
Speaker 2: gave you twelve. Even Shepard gave you fourteen minutes tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think, Hey, if matthurm plays like this off the bench,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna have twenty or now
Speaker 2: he was only five for eight. I know he shot
Speaker 2: eleven free throws, they gonna be a tough team to beat.
Speaker 2: Okay oho, you know if he comes out and he
Speaker 2: compeace like this from ye rest of the series, man,
Speaker 2: the Skuy's limit for the Pacers. Now, you hope you're
Speaker 2: big guys, you know, continue to give you great production
Speaker 2: like they did. I don't know if they gonna average thirty,
Speaker 2: but they can be somewhere close to it.
Speaker 1: They got so many guys who can beat you.
Speaker 2: It's just tough to play against his Pacers team because
Speaker 2: they're so gritty defensively and offensively.
Speaker 1: They moved the ball and play the right way.
Speaker 2: And it's hard to kill on one guy because you
Speaker 2: really don't know who's gonna beat you. You don't know,
Speaker 2: you don't know, you never know because it's so many.
Speaker 2: I mean, like tonight, yeah, okay, you get thirty two,
Speaker 2: You get thirty two from Halliburton, you got thirty from Siakam.
Speaker 1: But normally it's a guy into.
Speaker 2: Like twenty three to twenty five and you got nineteen seventeen, eighteen, sixteen, thirteen, twelve.
Speaker 2: You normally have six guys in double figure how guy
Speaker 2: might have twenty three, low guy might have twelve, But
Speaker 2: you got six guys in double figures. And so when
Speaker 2: you don't know, well who they gonna get a ball
Speaker 2: to the open guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So who do we key on?
Speaker 2: You better pay attention to everybody because everybody is a lot.
Speaker 1: And see it's great players.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you know look, you and I we were
Speaker 2: pretty much always the number one receiver, the number two receivers.
Speaker 2: But when you know that quarterback, you know what, man,
Speaker 2: I know oo the guy, but you know they double ocho,
Speaker 2: they gonna come to me.
Speaker 1: It's something, it's something in you.
Speaker 2: That tells you, like, man, I got a real chance
Speaker 2: to get this ball. The pacers, every last one of
Speaker 2: the pacers, if you're on the court, they really believe
Speaker 2: they can get the ball. You know why though, You
Speaker 2: know why because that point guard, he's a past first
Speaker 2: point guard.
Speaker 1: He always is ocho.
Speaker 2: When you watch when you watch Hallan Burke play Oo Washington,
Speaker 2: when he get the rebound and he get the ball,
Speaker 2: the first thing goes up in his eye, yep, looking
Speaker 2: up the court because he's trying to see who's open.
Speaker 2: He gonna kick it ahead. He gonna make the right
Speaker 2: play every time. And then if it's not there, he
Speaker 2: gonna come down, run his pick and roll or whatever
Speaker 2: you give him, he gonna take it. He shots from
Speaker 2: deep threes tonight two three feed, Oh yeah, the three feet.
Speaker 1: Behind the line.
Speaker 2: Hold on. But when they go in, you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and that I mean, you look at it
Speaker 2: this like I said, he got that Kevin Martin Shott.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not aesthetically pleasing. It's not a Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: It's not. Damn.
Speaker 2: It's not all that rule. But he shooting so damn high.
Speaker 2: I'm make sometimes the camera, lose sight of the ball.
Speaker 2: I'm like with damn every time he shoot arking Ocho.
Speaker 2: Just watch his follow through when we stay followed through,
Speaker 2: Lee your elbow, buff your eyebrow. I don't care what
Speaker 2: it looked like. How he get it up there, his father,
Speaker 2: it was all. It's the same every time, every time,
Speaker 2: every time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, hey, you know it's surprising to about
Speaker 3: halla Burton and we hear about what the player said,
Speaker 3: the so called players you know, call them, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of overrated. And then and you watch what he's
Speaker 3: been able to do on his team from an individual standpoint,
Speaker 3: and you look at the game he had tonight to
Speaker 3: be able to be as aggressive as he was for
Speaker 3: four quarters, to be efficient, to be able to facilitate,
Speaker 3: to get his teammates involved, also be able to score
Speaker 3: as well. Then the motherfucker had the nerve not to
Speaker 3: turn the damn ball over like he got damn video game. Yep,
Speaker 3: this ain't two K. This is actually real. This is
Speaker 3: real basketball against other elite players that get paid as well.
Speaker 3: And you damn that had not a perfect game, but shit,
Speaker 3: you damn they're perfect as the video game.
Speaker 1: But he's not a turnover guy.
Speaker 2: If you go back, he's had a lot of fifteen assists,
Speaker 2: no turnovers. He has a lot of double digital sists
Speaker 2: and no turnovers, more low turnovers. He's not a he's
Speaker 2: not a heaviest heavy turnover guy. You know, sometimes guys
Speaker 2: might have ten assists and have six turnovers.
Speaker 1: That's not him.
Speaker 2: He's more have to have ten eleven assists, one to
Speaker 2: two turnovers.
Speaker 1: If he gets three, you're like, well, damn had it?
Speaker 1: What's going on? But go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 2: I I think the most impressive thing Ojo is that, yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't have no turnovers. But to do that against
Speaker 2: the Knicks, who have long, rangy guys defensive they Yes,
Speaker 2: you know that's impressive to go to play almost forty
Speaker 2: minutes with zero assists and have them to have a
Speaker 2: big stat lie zero turnovers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's impressive.
Speaker 2: But yes, I think Hallibert, even when he's not scoring
Speaker 2: the ball as well, he's still taking care of the
Speaker 2: rock and making sure, yes, facilitating for other guys. And
Speaker 2: tonight he just kind of got it going. He had
Speaker 2: everything working going to the Cup. He shot a couple
Speaker 2: of mid range joncles, he shot them deep threes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oto you can't double team nobody like that because he
Speaker 2: got too many guys around him. And like I say,
Speaker 2: he's willing passers. So that's what he wanted. If you
Speaker 2: double team, he gonna make the right play every time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know he's tall enough to see over it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, don't don't, ok, Joe, I don't mean to
Speaker 1: junk the gun like this, right, But.
Speaker 3: As good as they are in transition, you know, especially
Speaker 3: offensively up and down the court, and as good as
Speaker 3: the thundercar offensively as well, the long, lengthy, especially defensively,
Speaker 3: it can be a struggle.
Speaker 1: Like it's a struggle for Anthony and Julius. How do
Speaker 1: you see the matchup?
Speaker 3: And I hate to jump the gun and jumping ahead
Speaker 3: when that series is not over, But how do you
Speaker 3: see the series playing out against the Thunder and the Pacers?
Speaker 1: Hey love, go ahead, it's so, I mean, they love
Speaker 1: the Thunder.
Speaker 2: Got six guys that are really, really really good on
Speaker 2: the wing. You got lou Dort, you got Jylen Williams,
Speaker 2: you got Wallace, you got Wiggins, you got Caruso, you
Speaker 2: got Isaiah Joe. You got six guys that can defend,
Speaker 2: that can slide one through three. So we've seen them
Speaker 2: what they We've seen what they've done to ant Man,
Speaker 2: We've seen what they've done to Ju Ramdle. We saw
Speaker 2: them basically play a boxing one and say, Caruso, you
Speaker 2: got yo kids, this team, they're more alike than not. Now,
Speaker 2: Pacers don't have a shade. That's the difference, Shaye. You
Speaker 2: let him play one on one. They don't have a
Speaker 2: defender that can deal with it if you let him
Speaker 2: play one on one. And that's where and that's where
Speaker 2: the timberwol are messing up because they believe McDaniels can
Speaker 2: deal with him and he cannot. When a guy is
Speaker 2: in an MVP season and he's playing like he's playing
Speaker 2: because guess what, he's always gonna still aggressive.
Speaker 1: At this point in time, he's chunk this efficiency out
Speaker 1: the window. Yeah yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm serious on Joe, He's like, the hell with this efficiency? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can do shot thirty. He got forty points, He
Speaker 2: had forty points, but he took him thirty shots.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't, he said when we talked about it
Speaker 2: last night, Oh, Joe, is gonna happen when you're aggressive.
Speaker 2: You're gonna make it, you're gonna miss it, or you're
Speaker 2: gonna get fouled.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look how many times he went to the free
Speaker 2: throw line. So it would be a great matchup if
Speaker 2: if it were to happen. I think it's over for
Speaker 2: the Wolves. I think that their series ends tomorrow. They're
Speaker 2: not going back to mil They're going back to Minnesota,
Speaker 2: but the Thunder will not be a up them. They're
Speaker 2: going back, but the Thunder's not coming with them. The
Speaker 2: Thunder's not going back to Minnesota until maybe October, November,
Speaker 2: December of next year or this year. That's the next
Speaker 2: time you'll see the Thunder. I don't know if anybody lives.
Speaker 2: I don't know if any Thunder player is from the
Speaker 2: Minneapolis or Minnesota area. But they're not coming back. This
Speaker 2: series is gonna end. PACER's got to be on their
Speaker 2: best behavior because the Knicks is gonna gonna empty the
Speaker 2: tank on you. They're gonna give you everything they got
Speaker 2: because a one game at a time. Hey, let's win
Speaker 2: this game and see what happens in game six. All
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about is game five.
Speaker 1: Hold on, wait a minute, now, it sounds like you
Speaker 1: have hope.
Speaker 3: Now, I know I picked the Knicks win the series,
Speaker 3: but the way things are looking and I'm kind of
Speaker 3: jumping saying this series is over, but it sounds like
Speaker 3: you think the Knicks have a chance to come back.
Speaker 2: Oh they got to said, Look, all the games have
Speaker 2: been close, O Joe. It's not like you know, it's
Speaker 2: not like the series on the other side. What it's
Speaker 2: a forty point win. It's a thirty point where we
Speaker 2: would have had one game that we that we were
Speaker 2: that we were watching in the fourth quarter. We've had
Speaker 2: one game in which we were watching in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: and that was that was last night. Other than that,
Speaker 2: or Joe, that game was over in the first half. Hey,
Speaker 2: look all the game and the game was over midway
Speaker 2: through the third quarter. So there haven't been any suspense,
Speaker 2: any drama any man. I don't know, man, this game
Speaker 2: would go eat No. That was last night and that
Speaker 2: was like the last couple of minutes of the ball game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because basically they kept him at bay. The thunder kept
Speaker 2: them at bay for the entirety of the game. What
Speaker 2: you're thinking on, Joe about the excuse me, Joe, what
Speaker 2: you're thinking about the defense for the Thunder versus this,
Speaker 2: if this were to beat the matchup Indiana and Okay,
Speaker 2: see man, I'm I'm I'm probably gonna I'm leaning more
Speaker 2: toward the Thunder because they got a lot of guys
Speaker 2: that you know, that offensively that can explode as well.
Speaker 2: But they'll more polished, I think than uh than the Pacers.
Speaker 2: Uh they Yeah, he gonna he may have threw his
Speaker 2: officiency out the window. See the one thing about him,
Speaker 2: He probably donna shoot the three ball well, Ojo, but
Speaker 2: he gonna get to the MIDI man, he gonna shoot
Speaker 2: his media all night long. You feel me be able
Speaker 2: to stop that unless you're gonna double Teami. But you
Speaker 2: ain't gonna double team because he got too many guys
Speaker 2: who can score the ball as well.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard. Uh the Pacers.
Speaker 2: Who you put on him, because you gotta realize Shay
Speaker 2: sixty seven. So if you put the smith on him,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be able to shoot over the top of him.
Speaker 2: You put them hard on him, he's gonna be able
Speaker 2: to shoot it over the top of him. You're probably
Speaker 2: you probably gonna Startika. You start Siakam Miles Turner Uhiaka
Speaker 2: probably will take check. Yeah, and Miles Turner will take Hartenstein. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then Smith. You're gonna probably the Smith on him,
Speaker 2: but I'm probably I think the.
Speaker 1: Check homeber.
Speaker 2: And that's gonna be a tough matchup for Hungry because Hcom, you.
Speaker 1: Know, he's more of a perimeter player.
Speaker 2: He's kind of slippery, you know when he plays, and
Speaker 2: I feel like that's gonna give Hungry, you know, a
Speaker 2: few problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Plus Siakam he's not used to playing the guy that
Speaker 2: can put the ball on the floor, like can Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Not only can't he shoot the ball,
Speaker 2: but he can put the ball on the floor. And
Speaker 2: you know, Hungerd is more out he wants to protect
Speaker 2: the paint. Yeah, and so he's gonna be playing a
Speaker 2: guy that's really not trying to play with a guy's
Speaker 2: seven foot tall. He's not trying to play with his
Speaker 2: back to the basket. He's trying to get you out
Speaker 2: of a perimeter. He's trying to drag you to the deep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: drown you out there. So it's it's a very interesting matchup.
Speaker 2: But let these two guys, let these two teams finish
Speaker 2: it off, and then then we can have this conversation,
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins doesn't think Anthony Edwards can be the face
Speaker 2: of the NBA. Perk said, you got to check the
Speaker 2: boxes when you're the face of the league. You know,
Speaker 2: we gotta have a signature shoe, You got to do
Speaker 2: big commercials. You gotta have high lights, you got to
Speaker 2: have a game. But you know what you got to
Speaker 2: have gotta be a roll bottle and things outside the lines. Now,
Speaker 2: if you go down the list and check all the faces,
Speaker 2: you know you look at Bird Magic. I could have
Speaker 2: swear I don't got it. Said that last year and
Speaker 2: everybody looked at me. Oh Joe, they killed me when
Speaker 2: they say hill. I said this very same thing on
Speaker 2: ESPN and people I said, go back and look at
Speaker 2: the end. I said, how many faces of the NBA
Speaker 2: weren't married? But anyway, let me finish on. You gonna
Speaker 2: look at Larr Bird, Maggie Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 2: Shaq Lebron's steath. What did they all have in common?
Speaker 2: They were family men. They were all mad with kids.
Speaker 2: But see when I said it, because I'm a football player,
Speaker 2: what do you know, I just followed the game. I've
Speaker 2: been following the game a lot longer, playing a lot
Speaker 2: closer attention. And when you go back and study the
Speaker 2: guys that's been the face of the league, what do
Speaker 2: they have in common? Why is it so easy for quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: Look at the quarterbacks? Oh, Joe, go back and study
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks have been face of the league. What are
Speaker 2: they all having? I told you, I told you if
Speaker 2: I can study the NBA player, Joe, what do they
Speaker 2: have in common?
Speaker 1: But see when I said it and chat y'all know
Speaker 1: I said it.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Steve when ain't looked at me, Molly wanted to
Speaker 2: just like, I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, bro'
Speaker 2: all I'm saying is just go study it, Go look
Speaker 2: at the guys that's been in the face of the league.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, what what what you think it is?
Speaker 3: It's it's a Joe honestly, you know what I think
Speaker 3: it is. I think it's an unwritten rule.
Speaker 1: Joe. You you married, right, Joe? I ain't married. Listen,
Speaker 1: but still you you he married? He just ain't got
Speaker 1: the paperwork.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, Hello, But if you look, if you
Speaker 3: look at that, things are going in your life, Joe,
Speaker 3: you understand God is blessing you.
Speaker 1: You know, for for some.
Speaker 3: Reason, things are always going right when you have stability,
Speaker 3: when you have a foundation, the bill on right. Hey,
Speaker 3: when you talk about the football players, it ain't no
Speaker 3: goddamn coincidence. All the ones that are carry or engage
Speaker 3: you notice how life is going. I'm not talking about
Speaker 3: off the field. How about off the field? Everybody just
Speaker 3: named that's married with Kenny Perkins said, and he said, hey,
Speaker 3: let me put my guy there and ring on.
Speaker 2: Shoot, but anyway, ojo, before you go in the father, Yeah,
Speaker 2: who what quarterback just got engaged last year about to
Speaker 2: get married? He up in Buffalo? Oh, josh'll shouting? And
Speaker 2: what Patrick Mahome? What did Patrick Mahomes Doojo?
Speaker 3: Man, it's not a coincidence on but not only are
Speaker 3: they good at not only are they good at their craft.
Speaker 1: But what did Tom Brady gonna do? Ojo? What did
Speaker 1: Peyton Manny do? Ojo? Ya? M way, Marino go back
Speaker 1: and study it.
Speaker 2: The only guy, the only guy that you can definitively say,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he was ever to face
Speaker 2: the lead with your name of at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Hey, but Joe is a player Joe's a player.
Speaker 2: Rogerstback Rogers Tharback says, hey, I just ad, I'm just like,
Speaker 2: but I just like what I got one woman? He listen, So, okay,
Speaker 2: I could see eliminating the distractions, you know, things of
Speaker 2: that sort.
Speaker 1: But what is it? What is it? Joe?
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to get that because the
Speaker 2: people look at what the tiger.
Speaker 1: Look at what did tiger do? He went and got.
Speaker 2: Married, didn't he? Yeah, what did tiger do? He went
Speaker 2: and got married. And when everything came because he sold family.
Speaker 2: He sold security. That's what he sold. And when it
Speaker 2: didn't happen, everybody was up in arms. It wasn't that
Speaker 2: he but it's what you sold us. You sold us.
Speaker 2: It's called stability. That's what you're feeling.
Speaker 1: That's stability. We listen that a guy that got a
Speaker 1: wife and got kids.
Speaker 2: Now see you might say, well, hey, I know I
Speaker 2: saw him X, Y, and Z, but the general public
Speaker 2: might not ever see him.
Speaker 1: They see every time he does an interview.
Speaker 2: He got his daughter, Steph Curry, where Steph Curry was
Speaker 2: started going to the playoffs, and they going to the NBA.
Speaker 2: Tell them who's sitting on who's sitting on that desk.
Speaker 2: Pretty who's right there beside it? Do it in minty,
Speaker 2: y'all remember that? And his wife in the tunnel, give
Speaker 2: him a kiss? You see that?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: O Joe, I don't it ain't too late for for
Speaker 2: for a Oh no, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying he's he's at the tender age of
Speaker 2: twenty three, O Joe.
Speaker 1: Oh he he at the ten days. He still got
Speaker 1: some time. Yes, I keep forgetting add only twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yes, and look he didn't he done took his his
Speaker 2: lungs and bruises throughout you know, the NBA.
Speaker 1: Seasons, the postseasons. He's been through.
Speaker 2: He's been through floors, you know, Yes, tim of Comey,
Speaker 2: they've played great basketball. But yeah, they still got a
Speaker 2: little growing to do. Who they're talking about? Hold on,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, who they talk about being the face? Tell
Speaker 2: the people at home, oh Joe, sga. Tell him what
Speaker 2: his status is? If he checking the single box, for
Speaker 2: he's checking the married box, Tell him what he checking, O.
Speaker 1: Joe, you're married? Yeah? Absolutely, yes, absolutely, I ain't know that.
Speaker 1: I ain't know that. What about Nicola Yokich? Is he bad? You?
Speaker 1: You married too? What about Luca? Is he bad? Everybody?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm going I'm will listen. I'm going to give
Speaker 3: me some sstabllity.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you're ready to jump that broom? Maji? Oh
Speaker 1: why ain't playing boy? January? What? Jay?
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm getting on my on my birthday?
Speaker 3: When your birthday January ninth, nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2: That same that same birthday, my son bro for real,
Speaker 2: I saw at eighteen, just graduated high school this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, January, that's my dog, my dog.
Speaker 1: I have my birthday dog. I say, what's happening?
Speaker 2: I'm tellinghim, But I got to watch you out, though, boy,
Speaker 2: y'all sneaky boy?
Speaker 1: Whoa wait yeah, whoa whoa whoa me? You with you?
Speaker 1: A capar Yeah? But Capricorn? I hope I listen.
Speaker 3: Signs don't don't really identify everybody that born in that month.
Speaker 1: That really that's I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying all of it pertains to you, but
Speaker 2: y'all got a lot of similarities.
Speaker 3: And there we go, there we go, there we go. No, No,
Speaker 3: because I listen, I I don't. I'm not into signs.
Speaker 3: I don't know much about signs, you know. I hear
Speaker 3: from time to time and you meet people, but I
Speaker 3: get along with everybody. Everybody loves me, regardless of what
Speaker 3: signed they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't understand. I'm I'm nothing like what they say.
Speaker 3: Capt pms are like, I'm a good dude, and.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking for I'm gonna saying you're a bad dude.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think dude, Yeah, yeah, I'm a good Now,
Speaker 1: I'm a good dude. I'm good dude. Watch you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I.
Speaker 2: Know a guy said this, and I listed all the guys,
Speaker 2: A lot of the guys that per name.
Speaker 1: I listed those guys.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what happens when you let a football guy
Speaker 2: talk about basketball. Now there's a basketball guy. See they
Speaker 2: all looking Obviously it touched the nerve. I'll just go
Speaker 2: back and look at the face of the NBA and
Speaker 2: tell me and tell me what they were.
Speaker 1: Take football aside.
Speaker 2: Tell me what the guy any, Tell me the guy
Speaker 2: that's been the face of the NBA that did not.
Speaker 1: A show display stability. Tell me the guy.
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, I'm with you when you rite yeah, Hey,
Speaker 3: do you think you think Anthony Edwards could be the
Speaker 3: first one to change that.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 2: Hey, there's family value, there's morals than some people just
Speaker 2: don't cut it. I mean, it's it's different, it's different. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there is. But they say the problem is a lot
Speaker 2: of people. They said, hey, they're trying to destroy the
Speaker 2: new clear the family nuclear No.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, everyone operates at a different frequency, everybody.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can operate that. You just can't be the
Speaker 2: face of the NBA. You can operate that. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, You're right, right, And that's what And I
Speaker 2: think that's a large part of why he doesn't Because
Speaker 2: he doesn't. I don't want to do that. I still
Speaker 2: want to go of my little dives holding the wall.
Speaker 2: Y'all don't see me. I got my shades on, I've
Speaker 2: took them to cut.
Speaker 1: I don't want all that.
Speaker 2: I don't want all of that that comes along with
Speaker 2: being because now you got people, now you got people
Speaker 2: really out there trying to in your in your business,
Speaker 2: trying to lift the covers up so they can show
Speaker 2: the world what you really do it and then let
Speaker 2: the cover fall back down on you.
Speaker 3: And him only and and only, being twenty three, you
Speaker 3: have to move You're twenty three.
Speaker 1: Hold on.
Speaker 3: You got to move completely different, compete different once you
Speaker 3: cross that line open the marriage and the having stability,
Speaker 3: and you have to at that age, with that kind
Speaker 3: of money, you're going.
Speaker 1: To know and most of and most of the guys
Speaker 1: we can't even in Atlanta too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the and the thing to a lot of
Speaker 2: these guys. Lebron knew Savannah since they were fourteen. Steph
Speaker 2: knew Aisha when they were teenagers. Magic new Cookie. Steph meant,
Speaker 2: excuse me not, Stephan. Kobe met Vanessa his first the
Speaker 2: second year in the NBA. He's nineteen, eighteen nineteen. She's
Speaker 2: a senior in high school or junior high school. Man
Speaker 2: ant Man is twenty three. You gotta realize Kobe's nineteen
Speaker 2: at man is twenty three. He meets somebody, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is it for me? Hey, I met mine?
Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah? How up? Magic with Dayton Cookie in college. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's a different time now if and it's hard,
Speaker 2: it's getting harder and harder today.
Speaker 1: In need to date because it's because you don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't.
Speaker 2: But I for me looking at it from a distance
Speaker 2: and studying the NBA like I have and looking at
Speaker 2: faces of the NBA. Go back and look at the
Speaker 2: guys that was the face of the NBA, and look
Speaker 2: at this their home situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, ay, Joe, I want you to watch, uh right,
Speaker 3: you see. I want you to pay attention to people
Speaker 3: in the chail. I want you to pay attention to
Speaker 3: the difference in our cups. All our cups are running
Speaker 3: over right now. Everything is going good, everything is going smooth.
Speaker 3: Now I want you to I want you to see
Speaker 3: how life changes for your boy in twenty twenty six
Speaker 3: when it.
Speaker 1: Crossed that room, hear me, Yeah, yeah, yea. I want you.
Speaker 3: I want you to see how life changes for me. Now,
Speaker 3: what I want you to do is I want you
Speaker 3: to pay attention.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Remember I told you this. I'm told hey, it's May.
Speaker 3: It's May twenty seven, yes, twenty five. When I jump
Speaker 3: that room after my birthday. I want you to see
Speaker 3: how life changes exponentially. And I want you to follow
Speaker 3: suit right behind me to my all Yeah, yeah, god, dad,
Speaker 3: he gonna gonna You're gonna drop the matter of fact, we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Jump he Hey, Ojo, it's time for him to put
Speaker 2: it up. You got to put it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because listen, we need to listen. We need to be
Speaker 2: were gonna we gonna be on the right track, right, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be on the right track. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go ahead and take the lead. I'm gonna start it off.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like Basball, You're gonna be yeah, shit,
Speaker 3: you got time to play way.
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley also chimed in on the face of the league. Hey, ESPN,
Speaker 2: I love you guys. Don't try to make a man,
Speaker 2: he said Anthony edwas, but don't like, don't don't try
Speaker 2: to make Anthony Edwards the face of the NBA.
Speaker 1: There's the face of the NBA. It's Shay Gilgers, It's
Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic. It's honest. You can't give it to people.
Speaker 1: They have to take it. And SGA is taking it
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is man, But that means and look, once
Speaker 2: somebody tells you so, I mean and man told him
Speaker 2: that that's not what I want. Yeah, And it's like
Speaker 2: the more the more he says he doesn't want it,
Speaker 2: the more people try to bestore the puny.
Speaker 3: But you know why, you know why, it has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with you know, forget I'm not. Obviously, people
Speaker 3: are gonna say, oh, look how he's playing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Listen, he has this as good.
Speaker 2: As he personality, he has careers, but he has charm,
Speaker 2: he has everything that you have.
Speaker 3: Yes, as good as year he is, he still doesn't
Speaker 3: have that it factor that Ann has. He just doesn't
Speaker 3: as great as he is Joe, He's I just think
Speaker 3: it's hard for for.
Speaker 1: A foreign born player to be the face of the NBA.
Speaker 1: I just do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You think you think you know where? You think that
Speaker 3: has anything to do with it? You think, no, a
Speaker 3: little bit smidge be the.
Speaker 1: Same thing you think.
Speaker 2: Do you think uh an American born player can be
Speaker 2: the face of football European football soccer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's impossible.
Speaker 3: You would have to be a see' that's that would
Speaker 3: that would would that would be damn near impossible. And
Speaker 3: I mean, no disrespect impossible.
Speaker 2: Let's getting my man, get get a man, a little
Speaker 2: time man. Yeah, you're still at attender age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty three, ain't. No.
Speaker 2: It takes a special type of something because both because
Speaker 2: you got to go back and you go back and
Speaker 2: think like Magic was twenty Yeah when he came into
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 1: You want to he won the championship Bird all those
Speaker 1: other guys.
Speaker 2: But normally, you know, guys were guys with twenty two
Speaker 2: twenty three where they was getting to the league.
Speaker 1: O Joe. Yeah, And so now guys are one and done.
Speaker 1: You have eighteen.
Speaker 2: I ain't no eighteen year old about to get married
Speaker 2: nineteen year old. Hey, look, because you live in the
Speaker 2: American dream. This is something that you've dreamed about since
Speaker 2: she was a kid. Now that you get to this point,
Speaker 2: especially at a young young age nineteen twenty, man, you
Speaker 2: ain't trying to be tied down.
Speaker 1: You're trying to go out down.
Speaker 3: You got you gotta be mentally you have to be
Speaker 3: mentally prepared. You got to be messed ready for that.
Speaker 2: Because oh, I think you gotta come from like you
Speaker 2: gotta have parents that were married. You have to have
Speaker 2: been been so I think I think if you was
Speaker 2: raised in the household and your parents have been married,
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot easier because look, okay, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: all my partners I grew up with, yeah, man, listen,
Speaker 2: they all married, but they are all the parents.
Speaker 1: They've all been married since we were kids.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm the only one grew up in a single
Speaker 2: parent household, right, you know what I'm saying. But my
Speaker 2: closest homeboys, my closest homeboys, they married.
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, it also come down actually finding someone actually
Speaker 3: you can marry.
Speaker 1: Though there's a difference.
Speaker 3: It's not We ain't talk about jes aesthetics, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about someone of substance outside of just looks.
Speaker 3: So actually finding someone to marry is is that's the difficult.
Speaker 3: That's also difficult.
Speaker 1: I hear. I come from mind.
Speaker 3: I come from a where a one parent you know, household.
Speaker 3: I didn't do things the traditional way, but I do
Speaker 3: actually value marriage and want that. I want that stability,
Speaker 3: especially at my at old age, after being out streets
Speaker 3: a young you know, Joe, after being out in the
Speaker 3: streets for so long and understanding what's out there that
Speaker 3: I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's an
Speaker 3: investment when you get no return. I don't care how
Speaker 3: much you're spending, and I don't care who you spent
Speaker 3: it on. It looks good, it is esthetically pleasing. It's
Speaker 3: good to be able to be someone sponsored for a while,
Speaker 3: but it gets you nothing in return.
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta understand, you gotta understand the things that
Speaker 2: you've experienced and been through, you know you, I mean
Speaker 2: you were our forties now, so you know, I thought
Speaker 2: process a lot different versus forties. I'm here the war
Speaker 2: sixty to keep talking about. Imagine when you was twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two. Boy, Look, they probably couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3: Nothing at all, no disrespect at all at all, because
Speaker 3: it's nothing.
Speaker 1: I didn't view it that weight.
Speaker 3: So to eat and tie myself down or even think
Speaker 3: about having the discipline to do it at that age,
Speaker 3: it would be Joe, It'd be impossible, Joe, it'd be
Speaker 3: but hell. To this point, even even even to they,
Speaker 3: it's still been almost a struggle. Yeah, but my discipline
Speaker 3: has gotten much It's gotten much much better now that
Speaker 3: I know what the f I want right, right, Different
Speaker 3: people you experienced people differently, and different people that you
Speaker 3: meet bring different sides of you out, and when you
Speaker 3: meet the right person, you're like, well, god, damn, this
Speaker 3: is different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, I ain't got to go through this no more.
Speaker 3: Well ship, if this is how it'schooled to be, well, well,
Speaker 3: it's easy for me to stop doing this because this
Speaker 3: is what I have here.
Speaker 1: So it's it's hard to get people to understand like.
Speaker 3: Well, damn, I actually can do this shit because I
Speaker 3: got the I mean, i'm speaking.
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for me in Jennal, I'm just speaking
Speaker 1: in general.
Speaker 3: If you have the discipline to be great at one
Speaker 3: at a sport you pore into it, then you can
Speaker 3: also have the discipline to be great in other areas
Speaker 3: in life too, in all aspects of life, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean? Yeah, I agree, it's been. It's been
Speaker 1: in a good, a good, easy journey. It's been some
Speaker 1: upstairs and some downs.
Speaker 3: You know, I had things that I thought were good
Speaker 3: that didn't work.
Speaker 1: But it's it's still still cordial.
Speaker 3: You know, steal my dog and you know, just you're
Speaker 3: going to go onto something new and you try to
Speaker 3: try to flower that. You try to flower that and
Speaker 3: and and hope it blooms the way it should, right,
Speaker 3: I get you.
Speaker 1: Oh, hey, don't we all off topic? My bad? What
Speaker 1: y'all talking about? I mean, we're talking about the married thing?
Speaker 1: Oh jo oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, look, every my my grandmother and grandfather was married.
Speaker 1: Every last one of my uncles were married.
Speaker 2: All of my aunts was married except one.
Speaker 1: Brother's married. My sister and I are not.
Speaker 2: My mom was obviously to my dad, and then they
Speaker 2: got a divorce and she got remarried. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think Burns is married, Bucket is married, said something.
Speaker 1: Huh. Hey.
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it. Look, listen everything you just
Speaker 3: said right now right see the knockers at the door.
Speaker 1: All you got to do is answer. All you gotta
Speaker 1: do is answer now. I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take that leap of faith for you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start. Yeah, I'm gonna let you have it. Then, okay,
Speaker 2: but you know I'm gonna play close attention to you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna study you. I'm gonna study. I will study you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be. Let me be in
Speaker 2: a printice right right, right right.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: I got you, I said, matter of fact. I tell
Speaker 1: you what I tell you.
Speaker 3: I do one better Joe, I do one better for
Speaker 3: him right chat, when you decide to follow in my footsteps,
Speaker 3: in the steps of God and finding stability in a
Speaker 3: good foundation to continue the build on what you already
Speaker 3: have going on, which is phenomenal. By the way, I
Speaker 3: told you, the house is not a home until one
Speaker 3: gonna get a touch on it told you that I
Speaker 3: don't care what you gotta go. I know things are great,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna pay you a fifty nine hundred we
Speaker 3: decided to jump that broom.
Speaker 1: Oh whoa, whoa?
Speaker 2: Will you not finna put that stipulation? Don't be telling
Speaker 2: me you don't pay me my money and I get married?
Speaker 2: Oh man, Hey, that's cold. That's some cold work there.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay you your money what you decide once
Speaker 2: you decide to take that step.
Speaker 4: Boys, Hey, I under playing, just playing, under playing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get it to you. But what what hey?
Speaker 1: What the day is? Today? Twenty seven forty seven is Tuesday? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: My month is my month of June. I ain't really
Speaker 3: got nothing to do. I ain't really got no I
Speaker 3: took care of my overhead.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I paid man.
Speaker 3: June and got it out the way, so I don't
Speaker 3: really need nothing, so I got extra left over.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that that to you. Some discourse has started
Speaker 2: this week about how this Thunder team could be even
Speaker 2: scarier no matter what's happening in this playoffs Thunder will
Speaker 2: be adding Serbian star Nakola You'll Pitch to its rotation
Speaker 2: next season. You'll Pitch was the number twelve pick in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NBA Draft. It picked that OKC
Speaker 2: got from Houston in the twenty nineteen Westbrook trade. But
Speaker 2: Yo Picch had a torn acl and would miss his
Speaker 2: entire rookie season, and that scared the way most teams
Speaker 2: except okay see. Before the injury, the sixth se You'll
Speaker 2: Pitch would viewed as a top five prospect as a
Speaker 2: playmaking point guard. CBS sports Mark Draft had him as
Speaker 2: high as number two at one point. Next season, he'll
Speaker 2: finally make his NBA debut. Man, okay see, got a
Speaker 2: lot over there, Okay Olcher. I don't know how they're
Speaker 2: gonna keep all them guys together.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 2: They got it because you know, hey that now, because
Speaker 2: you know what, Chakab can sign four two ninety four
Speaker 2: or you can wait five for three eighty. Jayalen Williams
Speaker 2: is gonna want to get paid. Chet's gonna want to
Speaker 2: get paid. I mean, I like this guy because now
Speaker 2: you got somebody that's gonna handle the ball with when
Speaker 2: Shade's on the bench. If he's what what they say
Speaker 2: to us, well, you know see, but uh it's gonna
Speaker 2: be It gets hard, man, It gets hard on Joe
Speaker 2: because when you start winning, people come and start raiding
Speaker 2: your henhouse. They want they want, they want your chicken
Speaker 2: that's been laying these golden eggs. And that's and that's
Speaker 2: what happens. If you see it in football all the time,
Speaker 2: you see what happens. Uh, eventually Philly's not gonna be
Speaker 2: able to keep all these guys, those great defensive players.
Speaker 2: Now you play Jais, you play Jalen Carter. What you're
Speaker 2: gonna do with Jordan Davis? Hey, what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do with Cooper de John? What you're
Speaker 2: gonna do with brother Mitchell. What're you gonna do with theo? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: when you winning, everybody, everybody eats, So you have to
Speaker 2: go into the luxury tax.
Speaker 1: Got to take care of these guys.
Speaker 2: Just like if Boston would have won this year, man,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have cared about paying
Speaker 2: those dudes. Uh, they gonna break that thing up, Joe, now, y'all, yeah,
Speaker 2: now they y'all, But just but I think even if
Speaker 2: they had one, I think they break it up because
Speaker 2: you got to you got to think about it. You
Speaker 2: got for two guys making over three hundred million, you
Speaker 2: got think about it. You got Derrick White, and you
Speaker 2: got Holiday making well over one hundred million. You got
Speaker 2: Al Horford probably making thirty five to thirty eight million,
Speaker 2: and you got Prezingers. I think I think if they
Speaker 2: if they had a chance to win it this year,
Speaker 2: I think they willing to go into the luxury tax
Speaker 2: and pay that. It's just like, okay, see, if they
Speaker 2: win it this year, they gonna have to go into
Speaker 2: the luxury tax and they got to pay them dudes.
Speaker 1: But I heard the thing, and see because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the Lakers. The Lakers had the same situation they
Speaker 1: wanted in twenty twenty and broke the whole thing up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what that was about. I don't, right, y'all.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was about. They had they
Speaker 2: had a great team. I know it was in the bubble,
Speaker 2: but they had a great team. And if them do,
Speaker 2: I think you got to break it back just to
Speaker 2: see if you can repeat. I agree, So I think
Speaker 2: I think it makes you wonder like, was it something
Speaker 2: more to it than just basketball?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, we'll never know.
Speaker 2: Uh. Carmelo Anthony and PG Paul George aren't convinced that
Speaker 2: Jannis will ask to be traded from Milwaukee, despite the
Speaker 2: rumor surrounding his uncertain future with the organization. Giannis is
Speaker 2: that old cut era, that that old era cut? I
Speaker 2: think you want to stay at Milwaukee's whole career. That's
Speaker 2: what PG said. He ain't going nowhere. Janni's built Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, not that that that mattered, That matters, Not
Speaker 1: that matters.
Speaker 2: Not.
Speaker 3: I understand PG and Carmelo obviously very respectable, good for
Speaker 3: good friends of mine. But honest, he's not going back
Speaker 3: because he's gonna be the same thing every year.
Speaker 1: The man wants to win, the man wants to contend
Speaker 1: for another title again. No, he didn't want to. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to lift the heavy old every single night.
Speaker 1: Every He's for the way now than what he was
Speaker 1: when he won his title.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's why I don't see him going back. That's
Speaker 2: the problem that you're up against, is that. Guess what
Speaker 2: you see all the got What if Shae gets one
Speaker 2: this year? Tatum already got one. I mean, you're not
Speaker 2: worried about Steph and Lebron and Katie because they've already
Speaker 2: done the the you know, next couple of years they're
Speaker 2: gonna be on their way out.
Speaker 1: But what about.
Speaker 2: Okay, see, he ain't going nowhere at least for the
Speaker 2: next year or two. How do if we talked about
Speaker 2: this last night, Joe, let's just say they break it back.
Speaker 2: Dame's not playing next year. So even if he goes
Speaker 2: back to Milwaukee, they're not better than the Knicks. They're
Speaker 2: not better than the Cavaliers. They're not better than the Pacers.
Speaker 2: And I'm not so sure is that they can beat
Speaker 2: Boston with the roster that they have with just Giannis.
Speaker 2: So now, at best case scenario, oh if Orlando, if
Speaker 2: Ben Carro and from Bagner stay healthy, they're not better
Speaker 2: than them.
Speaker 1: So if best case scenario, you feel to six, Hey, look,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think Giannis will always say the right things, yes,
Speaker 2: because he don't.
Speaker 1: Look, he don't want that blowback.
Speaker 2: Everybody go say the right thing, Joe's since they saw
Speaker 2: what happened to Lebron.
Speaker 1: Everybody goes all, y'all want to be here?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because at least Lebron played his
Speaker 2: contract out. See, Lebron is one of those guys. He
Speaker 2: never asked to be traded. We play his contract out
Speaker 2: and people hold him to the same standard the guys
Speaker 2: that be asking for trades. Lebron is never asked to
Speaker 2: be traded. Play the contract out. His ton contract was
Speaker 2: up in Cleveland, he went to Miami. Contract was up
Speaker 2: in Miami. He went back to Cleveland. Contract was up
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, he went to LA. So you got to
Speaker 2: think about it. Lebron is damn there as much time
Speaker 2: in LA. Has these his last stint in Cleveland, and
Speaker 2: well with the Miami right, Yeah, Hey, love, I.
Speaker 1: Can see young. I don't know how he gonna do it,
Speaker 1: but I just see Yanni's moving this summer. Okay, hold Joe.
Speaker 2: I can't see him coming going back to Milwaukee trying
Speaker 2: to do all the heavy lifting by itself. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be tough. It's gonna be challenging because they can't bring
Speaker 2: nobody in help him. I know, outside of what they
Speaker 2: already have. They can't bring nobody else in now and
Speaker 2: then Saya bet players injured, But can you imagine if
Speaker 2: Yannest gets traded to a team to all, I say,
Speaker 2: the Mavericks or the Rockets, or you know, whatever the
Speaker 2: case may be. The word go to state gonna try
Speaker 2: to make a run for man. Can you imagine like
Speaker 2: he gonna have to still do some heavy lifting, but
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be nothing like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it ain't gonna have a whole lot of heavy
Speaker 1: lifted if he got step on this team. I asked you,
Speaker 1: I asked you that last night.
Speaker 3: You know where where is the scenarios where he could go,
Speaker 3: where the situation would be different than what it is
Speaker 3: with Milwaukee Right now.
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta break First of all, Steph is healthy.
Speaker 1: Dame is not. They play different types of game. Steph
Speaker 1: is perpetual motion.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a lot of wide open looks because
Speaker 2: you gotta you, you gotta build a wall to.
Speaker 1: Keep Yanni's out the paint.
Speaker 2: And then when yann is kicked because you saw the
Speaker 2: average six and sist he's getting better as a passer.
Speaker 2: So the thing is, he's just gonna have to get
Speaker 2: a lot of teams because teams going straight up, they're
Speaker 2: only a handful of teams that could Okay, see Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets.
Speaker 1: They're really the only team to have the draft capitol.
Speaker 2: Houston have the draft capitol and the players, because you're
Speaker 2: ready that you could pack a shingoon.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Oh the Spurs, you have to. Spurs definitely have the capitol.
Speaker 2: So there's only a handful of team to have draft
Speaker 2: capitol and players.
Speaker 1: Huh, that's not fair. You can't. You can't put Wimby
Speaker 1: and got them together.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, life ain't fail, partner, life ain't fail. You
Speaker 2: put them on the team. Boy, Listen, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: number ethans for show for show and what yeah, and
Speaker 2: what what pick?
Speaker 1: What pick? The Spurs got? What the picked?
Speaker 2: Spurs that got the two Spurs got the number two pick,
Speaker 2: so you get a big dime draft.
Speaker 1: They got plenty of the draft picks.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna be willing to part
Speaker 2: with obviously Stephen Castle and uh Wimby I would think
Speaker 2: would be, but anything else. I mean, you got Fox,
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to You're probably gonna have to get
Speaker 2: off Castle. You okay, okay, if you got Fox, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got Fox, and I forgot Fox with there you
Speaker 2: got so you got Fox?
Speaker 1: Wimby Giannis, Yeah, man, you sure old Joe Wait, Darien Fox, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Darren Fox. Yeah, No, that's not fair.
Speaker 2: Because man, Waluker gonna want some stock power back, and
Speaker 2: they have for Castle.
Speaker 1: He's proven, you know, he just won Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: So they gonna they gonna want some They gonna want
Speaker 1: somebody who's gonna pack.
Speaker 2: A punch, and I want him. I want a proven player.
Speaker 2: I want a couple of proven player. I might take
Speaker 2: Vassal and there Caldon Johnson too. Yeah, and I want
Speaker 2: that number two pick and a couple of other picks
Speaker 2: and some pick spots. Hey, for y'all, that's just worth
Speaker 2: it because let me tell you, yeah, I think if
Speaker 2: he plays with some some other great talent, he will
Speaker 2: be more of a willing passer versus you know, I
Speaker 2: know he'll still be downhill, but I think he'll be
Speaker 2: more reluctant.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think he'll pass a lot more versus just driving
Speaker 2: in there, you know, just trying to get files and
Speaker 2: things of that sort. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's a cheat, cole Man, He's a cheat hole for sure. Yeah. Hey,
Speaker 1: I told him, man, But six yeah, six eleven? What six?
Speaker 1: Moving like a deer out there? Hu? You ready? Then
Speaker 1: listen the volume