WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Hali & Pacers Take Game 4 + Melo Says Giannis Stays

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<v Speaker 2>And wow, wow, wow, thank you for joining us for

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<v Speaker 2>another episode of Nightcap. The Indiana Pacers take a commanding

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<v Speaker 2>three to one lead one thirty one. Boy, what a

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<v Speaker 2>night for Tyrese Halliburton, Pascal Siakam and ben Adict Mattburn.

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<v Speaker 1>They carried the Pacers to a victory and.

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<v Speaker 2>Their one went away, one went away from going to

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA Finals. Wild what a ball game? I am

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<v Speaker 1>To break down, break it, break it all down.

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<v Speaker 2>Iojoe Arkansas, Little Rock Native, University of Arkansas, lum and

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<v Speaker 2>he's here to talk to us how Indiana was able

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<v Speaker 2>to come back and do this giving up the big

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<v Speaker 2>lead they had in Game three, But they came back

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<v Speaker 2>and basically led from start to finish the entire night

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<v Speaker 2>and they get it done and they one went away

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<v Speaker 2>from going to the NBA Finals. Guys, please make sure

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<v Speaker 2>beat the Knicks to take a three to one series lead.

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<v Speaker 2>They head back to MSG advanced to the first NBA

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<v Speaker 2>Finals since two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>The first player in.

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<v Speaker 2>NBA history with a triple double and zero turnovers in

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<v Speaker 2>the Conference finals. Tyrese Halliburton. We talked about o chod

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<v Speaker 2>the other night. He needed to be more aggressive that

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<v Speaker 2>he was. That was not aggressive what he had the

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<v Speaker 2>other night. Tonight he had fifteen in the first court.

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<v Speaker 2>He had twenty in the first half. I say, now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the Tyreese Halliburton that I wanted to see

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<v Speaker 2>in Game three.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't matter. He showed up tonight thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Points, fifteen assents, twelve rebounds, zero turnover. Pascal Siakam said,

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't no fun if I can't have nothing bad. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let me come to the party. Two thirty points, five rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>two assists. Are still in a block. He was eleven

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty one from the floor, three or four from

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<v Speaker 2>the three point line, five or six from the free

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<v Speaker 2>throw line. Hey, Miles Turner, he had thirteen. But Matthburg

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<v Speaker 2>played his best game in a long, long time in

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<v Speaker 2>only twelve minutes. Five of eight from the floor, ten

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<v Speaker 2>of eleven from the free throw line, twenty big points.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh till we talked the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, Joe, you were on I said, oh till look,

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<v Speaker 2>they only had four guys of double figures. They had

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<v Speaker 2>five to night and see that team sixteen thirteen. But

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<v Speaker 2>you got thirty two from Halliburton, you got thirty from Siakam,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got twenty from Mathburn and that was enough

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<v Speaker 2>to overcome the thirty one points that Jaylen Bronson had.

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<v Speaker 2>Kat had another big game again, twenty four points, twelve rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>Og had twenty two miles, Michel Bridges at seventeen. Josh

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench was twelve and eleven, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>not enough. The Pacers basically lead from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just have that ability to, like when the

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<v Speaker 2>game get close, to take off and make a double

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<v Speaker 2>digit again. Yeah, Joe, what did you like about what

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacers did tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Man Ocho?

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<v Speaker 2>I just it seemed like the Pacers understood the assignment, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>Halli Berd, Siakam, you know them.

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<v Speaker 2>Them dudes came out, Nate Smith, they came out and

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<v Speaker 2>set the tone early, you know what I mean, They

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<v Speaker 2>got off to a pretty good start. I thought, can't

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<v Speaker 2>getting in foul trouble early, you know, hurt the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get Mather and coming off the bench playing

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<v Speaker 2>the way he's been playing, the way he played tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>He hadn't played well this series. He had not, he

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<v Speaker 1>has not. This was a great coming out party for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm gonna tell y'all another thing I like about

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<v Speaker 2>Mather and he kind of he a little borderline dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>He a little boreder Oh yeah, hurt Hey, Hey, but

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<v Speaker 2>I love it though, Ocho. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>because for the Pacers, they got a lot of dolls

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<v Speaker 2>over there. Man, he came off that bench and he

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<v Speaker 2>gave him everything that they needed. I thought his energy effort,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, carried over throughout the whole entire game and

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<v Speaker 2>HALLI Bert was unbelievable. I mean the triple not just

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<v Speaker 2>an average triple double, that's a big dog triple double. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, no turnovers, no turnover. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a fifteen assists and no turnovers. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>if he got fifteen assists, that means he's helping other

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<v Speaker 2>guys get off, you get eat.

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<v Speaker 1>You had plenty of help tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he got off to a great start and

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<v Speaker 2>he was he was very aggressive today in game four

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<v Speaker 2>versus you know, last game game three. Yeah, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he heard you guys, you know what I mean. He

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<v Speaker 2>came out with it on his mind, and ultimately he

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<v Speaker 2>controlled the game from start to finish. He's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I got Pops back. They three pops, they poppled it

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<v Speaker 2>up pop right here.

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<v Speaker 1>He hey, oh Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to spend eight days in the county and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, they got him up out the county

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<v Speaker 2>and so now you saw what he did. He was

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<v Speaker 2>asked after the game whether having his dad back in

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<v Speaker 2>the building helped them in game four? Hell yeah, Aeron

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<v Speaker 2>Neith Smith. Remember the other night Nie Smith and Nim

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<v Speaker 2>Hard they didn't play well. Both of those guys were

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<v Speaker 2>in single digit. Now you get Aaron Neith Smith. He

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<v Speaker 2>gave you sixteen big points. And when you combined, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're basically they're killing the knicks off the bench, you

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<v Speaker 2>got Matthron had twenty. That's twenty. Let's see eight ten,

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<v Speaker 2>that's thirty. They got thirty six points off the bench tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>When you combined the thirty six points off the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got a thirty two point performance from Tyreese Halliburton,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a thirty point performance from Pascal Siaka.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sixty two points.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there, but from your big guns, and you got

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six off the bench. So now if my starters

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<v Speaker 2>give me anything, I got sixteen from Nate Smith, I

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<v Speaker 2>got thirteen from a excuse me, Miles Turner. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>really needed to have Jalen Brunson and Cats to have

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<v Speaker 2>one of those forty three point thirty six point game

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<v Speaker 2>to try to overcome what the Pacers do collectively. O Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>the Knicks fault. I mean, they got it down, they

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<v Speaker 2>cut it down and got it down in like five,

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<v Speaker 2>but then again, the Pacers could just run away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think happened with the Knicks this game?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it seemed like they came out, tried to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it close for as long as they could, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed like they don't have that gear that the

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<v Speaker 2>that the Pacers have, and they don't have the gear,

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<v Speaker 2>and they also don't have the consistency off the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brustling has to be on point. Cat, you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>stop with the dumb files. You know, I'm looking at Cat.

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<v Speaker 3>You grab you're grabbing people's arm.

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<v Speaker 1>You down there rastling in the paint instead of you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there rastling the paint with your arm in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just reset your arm, man, just reset your arm.

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<v Speaker 3>Unnecessary files being called. The first three quarters they did.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's you know, let's talk about the first half, Nick did,

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<v Speaker 3>but they could.

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<v Speaker 1>To keep the game close.

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<v Speaker 3>But toward that they ended towards the end of each quarter,

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<v Speaker 3>they god damn they are not only are they Knicks

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<v Speaker 3>losing the transition towards the end of each quarter. In

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<v Speaker 3>the first half, they got damn pacers going and goddamn run, Joe, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>going to run the end the goddamn quarter. The third quarter,

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<v Speaker 3>same thing in the third quarter, the goddamn pacis they

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<v Speaker 3>try to keep it close, the paces going and goddamn

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<v Speaker 3>running in the goddamned quarter. And in the four they

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<v Speaker 3>did what they needed to do, but that god damn Halliburton. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>we just had a conversation last night, Joe. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about superstars versus star and my dumb ass

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<v Speaker 3>had the nerve to say he's not in the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with the superstars in the league based on tonight's performance,

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<v Speaker 3>not knowing just one game, but he's been very consistent

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<v Speaker 3>in it's in it's play throughout the whole season, not

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<v Speaker 3>just what we saw from the night. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>we need to have a conversation again about Halliburton being

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<v Speaker 3>a superstar and not just a star. I called him

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<v Speaker 3>just a star last night. And man, listen what he

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<v Speaker 3>was able to do tonight. Man Siakam, that god damn

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<v Speaker 3>nim Hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he contributed as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Stressed to goddamn, stressed to goddamn New York defense. Make

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<v Speaker 3>it easy for everybody else offensively, for the Pacers to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to shoot their shot.

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<v Speaker 2>To the man, hey, we talked. We talked about Pascal Siakam.

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<v Speaker 2>In game two, he had thirty nine big points and

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<v Speaker 2>then he come up a little small in game three

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, no, Pascal, now I'm not asking you

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<v Speaker 2>to go get thirty but I will take thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>But he played. He was aggressive. He was aggressive tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what the Pacers need. They need their The

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, your two best players need to carry you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really as simple as that. And then whatever we

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<v Speaker 2>get from and whatever we get from the Nise Mills,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever we get from the nim Hard, the matth Burns

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<v Speaker 2>and the Miles Turner. But your two best players gotta

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<v Speaker 2>do the heavy lifting. When the Lakers, it was Kobe

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<v Speaker 2>and Shack doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Robert

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<v Speaker 2>Dorry chipped in, Dark Fisher, Chip Ben Rick Fox, Chip

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<v Speaker 2>be In. They had a lot of guys chipping in,

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<v Speaker 2>but your two guns got the fire. When you talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the heat, just a second, O Joe, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the heat. It was d Wade and Lebron for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part. And then we go get Chris Bosco

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<v Speaker 2>chip in. Then we gonna get Mike Miller helping out.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get a you know what, a real give us

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<v Speaker 2>one of them twenty point games. We need that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But your big guns need to fire more time than

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<v Speaker 2>often and again in this ball game. That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, O Joe, Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe, I got a question for you, and I got

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<v Speaker 3>a question for you two and those in the chat

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<v Speaker 3>that understand the game of basketball. How come Pascal Siakam

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<v Speaker 3>and Halliburton could look the way they did tonight understanding

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<v Speaker 3>that we both have to play well, we both have

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<v Speaker 3>to be aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the top two guns.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we watched the goddamn Wolves last night and

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<v Speaker 3>Julius Random and Anthony Edwards understanding they need to have

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<v Speaker 3>games similar to what passed out and goddamn Halliburton had tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did much easier or it seems much easier for

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<v Speaker 3>and Halliburton to do what they did tonight as opposed

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<v Speaker 3>to Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall is are we saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Is is the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's saft or that no dear of an opponent as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to the goddamn thunder where it seems Anthony Edwards

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<v Speaker 3>and goddamn Julius to do what they do, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know. Obviously, I know everybody gets

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<v Speaker 1>paid to play the game.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I think about Anthony Edwards, as great as

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<v Speaker 3>he is, he should be able to do what Halliburton

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<v Speaker 3>did tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. I think Anthony l was in Julius run.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially think it was because they corraling and trapping him

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<v Speaker 2>so much, making him give up the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He gotta pick his spots a lot faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Ocho, you know what I mean, Like once you get

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<v Speaker 2>a crease, you got to go on the tack because yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they sitting. The one thing they not gonna do, they

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna let him play. So yep, he making the

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<v Speaker 2>right play. He getting off the ball. He getting other

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<v Speaker 2>guys involved, but uh uh, they doing what They're doing

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<v Speaker 2>what they wanted as far as holding him to where

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<v Speaker 2>he's not that effective offensively, the way he's not exploding. Okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 2>If mcdane's gonna beat us, we're gonna let him beat us.

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<v Speaker 2>If if these other these other guys gonna beat us,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna let them.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're not gonna let you play this series.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to the Knicks and paces, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>pace is just it was too It was too fast

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<v Speaker 2>for the Knicks to start the game.

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<v Speaker 1>They they can't keep up with that pace.

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<v Speaker 2>Many they look good that first half, that first quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter, but I knew at some point it would

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<v Speaker 2>catch up to him. And to start the third quarter

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<v Speaker 2>they come out here just careless mist that that the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers made him pay for it. They were on thirteen, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>run that quick next thing, you know, not in an

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<v Speaker 2>uphill climb. Well, they don't have that type of firepower

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<v Speaker 2>to really fight back. I know, you know, the home

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<v Speaker 2>team hasn't played great in this series. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>felt like the Pacers understood many were they were. They

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<v Speaker 2>were aggressive from the start and they knew what was

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<v Speaker 2>his stake. They knew they couldn't go back to New

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<v Speaker 2>York with no ties, with no tied up series, so

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<v Speaker 2>they played like it tonight. Hey, look, we gotta get

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<v Speaker 2>Nate Smith. A lot of credit to man. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>we all deal with injuries throughout our career. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you roll that ankle on the side of that ankle

0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.960
<v Speaker 2>sit on their floor like that. Hey, man, that's tough

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<v Speaker 2>to come. That's tough to it with, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I don't know if they shot him up,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought he got off to a great start

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<v Speaker 2>oo to start the game. I thought his defense was great,

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<v Speaker 2>big threes, his defense was great on Brunton, he made shots,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was still active. He was still active on

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<v Speaker 2>both ends. Man, the Pacers look good tonight, Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They look good.

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<v Speaker 2>They look like a team who's prepared to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of finish the series off. And I just I

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<v Speaker 2>just loved everything about it night.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you think about the length and and how good

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<v Speaker 3>obviously I'm assuming, well, I'm not sure that the nick

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<v Speaker 3>can come back and win this series. How how good

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<v Speaker 3>and lengthy the defense is for the Thunder Do you

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<v Speaker 3>still think they'll be able to have the game of basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>the game of runs, the transition, the second chance points

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<v Speaker 3>as they had against the Knicks against the Thunder being

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<v Speaker 3>that I think they're better suited.

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<v Speaker 2>The Thunder match up better because the Thundering defenders got

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<v Speaker 2>so you got Door, you got Jaylen Williams, you got Wiggins, No,

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<v Speaker 2>you They match up much.

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<v Speaker 1>Better, so much better. So that answers my question. That

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<v Speaker 1>that answer my question again.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why Halliburton and god damn Pascal Siakam look the

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<v Speaker 3>way they do against the Knicks because it's it's somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>of a lopside and match it for them defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, har's the thing the what OKC is doing. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not allowing Anthony edwas to play one on one. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to play two on one, half at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're not gonna play one on one. But but

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<v Speaker 2>if you go back and look at look at what

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<v Speaker 2>Shay is doing, then let him play one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>They let him go with mcdanie's you got it, you're

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<v Speaker 2>our best defender. You're taking one on one, bro, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the MVP for a week reason. He had the most

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty forty fifty point games this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're allowing him.

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<v Speaker 2>You're allowing their best player and the really great players

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<v Speaker 2>all can play one on one. You better not let

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<v Speaker 2>him play one on one, and you better not let

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<v Speaker 2>him get a rhythm early, because if you can let

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<v Speaker 2>him get a ryb of Maryland, I don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>you do to him late, you can't bother. So they've

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<v Speaker 2>already in a group. They've already in the rhythm. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you see. They's like they don't look at Halliburton as

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<v Speaker 2>a superstar. So they gonna let him play one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna try to track they they go to that

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<v Speaker 2>drop and getting the ball. Times they tried to trap

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<v Speaker 2>him sometime. But you see, you see how get that three.

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<v Speaker 2>He let the three ball go. He had twelve three

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<v Speaker 2>point on attempts. Now you got to push up on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he has the ability to get you see how

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<v Speaker 2>he got to the rim of right value. So you

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<v Speaker 2>got to give up something. And because he had those assists,

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<v Speaker 2>guys were knocking down shots. So they were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more reluctant. Because remember the other night, O Joe, they

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<v Speaker 2>were five or twenty five from the three tonight they

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<v Speaker 2>were thirteen or thirty two. So that's forty percent versus

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent. So you see the big difference in that

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<v Speaker 2>because now not only is he aggressive looking for his

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<v Speaker 2>shot when they bring it, he knows where they're coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's kicking and guys getting wide open look threes.

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<v Speaker 2>He did an unbelievable job tonight of running that offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys did a great job of knocking down shots. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what you go get a Passcal siakam for. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what you and this is what you bench your

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<v Speaker 2>role players. You're at home, you're expected to play well.

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<v Speaker 2>Teammate TJ mcconnough, Hey, I know he's gonna give you three.

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<v Speaker 2>He gonna give you six. He gonna play hard, he

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make you the play that's presented to it. But

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<v Speaker 2>past Gal Saiyakan thirty one points five rebounds three or

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<v Speaker 2>four from the three point line. Only Reggie Miller and

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George have more thirty point five rebound playoff games

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<v Speaker 2>as a pacer.

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<v Speaker 1>They really really really needed that tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed past Gal Siaka because you remember when they

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<v Speaker 2>started making that run, it was him that came back

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<v Speaker 2>and it hit that big three. Guys, remember that big three,

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<v Speaker 2>and it pushed the lead right back to team. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, uh you know, I was when I'm watching,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I wonder why pacers started selling for all leads?

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<v Speaker 2>Long three, you up almost, you're up seven? Why you

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<v Speaker 2>keep shooting it? They Haliburton, they shot the three in

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<v Speaker 2>a row. I'm like, man, get to the cup. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>put the pressure on the board. And they in foul

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<v Speaker 2>trouble and I know the player you talking about. They

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<v Speaker 2>were up thirteen and Halliburton came down the court and

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<v Speaker 2>shot a twenty nine footer. Then Manliburg, I'm been to

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<v Speaker 2>break y'all back right now, right? Yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he trying to He trying to get him out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, yeah, after he was playing good, he

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<v Speaker 2>was feeling good, and he shot I thought, what was

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<v Speaker 2>an unill advised shot in the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because they had the lead, all they gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do is take their time now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, keep putting pressure on these dudes because they

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<v Speaker 2>all in foul show and they don't want to file.

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<v Speaker 1>So just keep attaching.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're already you're already in the penalty. You got

0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.520
<v Speaker 2>them in the penalty, so there's really no need to

0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.879
<v Speaker 2>shoot a three. Shoot the three get something going to

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<v Speaker 2>the back. Now, I saw a lot of times they

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<v Speaker 2>called them tiki tax stuff, and then up there sometimes

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:25.840
<v Speaker 2>they let them play football.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, damn, it's specially.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the team, like the ref choose, they pick and

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<v Speaker 3>choose based on the momentum and what the game is

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<v Speaker 3>at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't to let them play? Yeah? Yeah, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, when you think about the game of football.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell, the god damn restling called the goddamn flag on

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<v Speaker 3>every every play, Yeah, every single play if you wanted to,

0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.639
<v Speaker 3>if you wanted to be technical. So in basketball, you

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<v Speaker 3>could tell exactly when the rest of letting them boys play,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on both ends of the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, Hey, look to me, this like this

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<v Speaker 2>is the best series by far, This is not even

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<v Speaker 2>this is so competitive if.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you don't know who's gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the home teams hadn't been playing great and the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers came out tonight, like I said, with it on

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<v Speaker 2>they mind knowing that. Man, ain't no way we can

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<v Speaker 2>go back to New York with this series tied to too.

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<v Speaker 2>Sobi Obie Topping hit a big three.

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<v Speaker 1>Two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Obie Toping hit that three because it was laid

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<v Speaker 2>out of a Halliburton found him. He backed, he stepped

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<v Speaker 2>back behind the three point line, let it go, shot

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<v Speaker 2>it with confidence and hit that three. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now now they they're very active on defense too, fellas,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like they getting steals in

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<v Speaker 2>the passing lane. They just wreckon habit, you know, throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the whole game. Even when the Knicks come down and score,

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<v Speaker 2>they still fast breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, the Pacers still they beating them back

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<v Speaker 1>down the court. I'm like, what do you think doing.

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<v Speaker 2>See, it's such a frantic pace that the Knicks have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time keeping up, so they have to try

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<v Speaker 2>to find a spot where they can rest. And you

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<v Speaker 2>can't rest on offense because them let you ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let you, because they're looking to push the ball. Joe

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<v Speaker 2>maker me. They'll take it out the net and push it,

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<v Speaker 2>or they'll get it off the glass and push it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So one way or another, they're going to push

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<v Speaker 1>the tempo.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what and when you're not used to playing

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times, you know, got a they

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<v Speaker 2>want to they get that ball, they get to the

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<v Speaker 2>head as soon as they as soon as they possibly

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<v Speaker 2>can because and you see what what you Collini is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to play more guys now he knows his.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys's playing at that fanatic place, and it's not conducing

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<v Speaker 2>for playing a lot of minutes. You look at it now,

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<v Speaker 2>he normally plays seven guys. He played No, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>comming Princess Atchewa the two minutes he played mouth. He

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<v Speaker 2>played nine guys tonight. You see the different you see

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<v Speaker 2>now that pace is like and only og played forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally Michel Bridges playing forty three minutes, Jaylen Brunston's playing

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine to forty one minutes. You see the difference

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<v Speaker 2>in the ball. He tim knows this pace and me

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<v Speaker 2>grinding these guys nine guys and trying to play forty

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<v Speaker 2>plus minutes is really not conducing. Because the pacers play,

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna play eight, nine, ten guys. That's who they are,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they've been all year. There's no reason for

0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.159
<v Speaker 2>them to deviate from that. But I thought tonight they

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<v Speaker 2>came out on the mission they did not want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to to the Martinson Square Garden because now

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<v Speaker 2>we really really have an effing series and it says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what now if the mindset you gotta have,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to end it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to end it in MSG. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I know everybody, well, they want to do it in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the damn my home crowd. Celebrate, go go

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<v Speaker 2>to the arena. I don't know what the arena's called.

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<v Speaker 1>Go there.

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<v Speaker 2>We put it up on the big jumbo tron and

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<v Speaker 2>y'all can watch it and celebrate. No, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to end this. Pay what to the Thursday?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they play Thursday, So I'm trying to end

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<v Speaker 2>it Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who the pace of Strength and additioning

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<v Speaker 3>coach is, but he need an extra, he need ax,

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<v Speaker 3>You need a bump, and pay a need to bump

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<v Speaker 3>his pay because they basically a four by one team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the starters going there, they're the first leg.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the bench. Know the bench come in, they the

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<v Speaker 1>second leg.

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<v Speaker 2>All up, build a light Steve Yakham, Halliburton, they all

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<v Speaker 2>built alike. They Miles Turner, They long and angular. They

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<v Speaker 2>got no big they ain't got no heavy set guys. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no big body guys. Yeah, and so you know that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know who the GM is, but

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<v Speaker 2>he does a great job. Guys that need to fit.

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<v Speaker 2>We need guys that can and and the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>is that you look at look at say how come

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<v Speaker 2>he can defend Nie Smith. He's there to defend Miles

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Turner can protect the paint h Nim Hark and defend

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Burn.

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<v Speaker 1>He could defend.

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<v Speaker 2>So they got guys, and they got a high flyered

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<v Speaker 2>over topping coming out the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>TJ. McConnell is a pest.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna give you everything that he gots.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said, they really needed this because Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Burn has not been playing. Remember he got kicked out

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<v Speaker 2>of the game in Cleveland with the low blow. I

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<v Speaker 2>think who was that on? Oh it was on the

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 2>guy you got they got from Atlanta, Oh yeah Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he got kicked out of the game. So

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<v Speaker 1>he really hadn't had a rhythm.

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<v Speaker 2>But he had eleven three throw attempts off the bitch

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<v Speaker 2>that unless you know he he's extremely and he only

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<v Speaker 2>played twelve minutes. That tells me he's extremely aggressive. He's

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<v Speaker 2>looking to get to the cup. He's like, man, my

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.400
<v Speaker 2>shot ain't falling. Let me get something easy. Hey, look

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 2>like somebody was in his end and told him, Hey,

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:13.680
<v Speaker 2>look man, we need you to come out here, put

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<v Speaker 2>your head down, go to work. And like I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>o Joe, he hey not borderline boy, he dirty? He

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<v Speaker 2>but hey, he could play on my team any day,

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<v Speaker 2>hear me.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when you said, when you say dirty, you mean dirty,

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 3>like like Drake, like Drayvon.

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<v Speaker 2>He ain't tried to hurt nobody, but he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>help nobody up. And he gonna, Hey, he gonna slam

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<v Speaker 2>into the floor and then help you at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>You all right, Hey, he wanted there, he wanted there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't them the worst dudes to play against, because boy,

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 2>they know going out there, hear me, Yeah, yeah, don't.

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't back down. He does not back down.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't matter who the superstar is, who the player

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 2>he's going against. Hes like he feels he belongs on

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 2>the court, and he's gonna play accordingly. So it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter if it's Lebron, if it's Kevin the Red or

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 2>whomever he has to guard. It does not matter to him.

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't let your reputation dictate how he plays the game.

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's what you could appreciate about this young man,

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 2>but I thought you they set the temple early. Rick

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Carliles done a great job. You see the guys thirty.

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Halliburton played thirty eight minutes and he played the most minute.

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.399
<v Speaker 2>But you got eighteen minutes from Topping Bradley. Tony Bradley

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 2>gave you ten minutes. McConnell gave you nineteen, Matt bren

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:38.879
<v Speaker 2>gave you twelve. Even Shepard gave you fourteen minutes tonight. Yeah,

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I think, Hey, if matthurm plays like this off the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's gonna have twenty or now

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 2>he was only five for eight. I know he shot

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.120
<v Speaker 2>eleven free throws, they gonna be a tough team to beat.

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay oho, you know if he comes out and he

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<v Speaker 2>compeace like this from ye rest of the series, man,

0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 2>the Skuy's limit for the Pacers. Now, you hope you're

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<v Speaker 2>big guys, you know, continue to give you great production

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.719
<v Speaker 2>like they did. I don't know if they gonna average thirty,

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>but they can be somewhere close to it.

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>They got so many guys who can beat you.

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 2>It's just tough to play against his Pacers team because

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 2>they're so gritty defensively and offensively.

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 1>They moved the ball and play the right way.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's hard to kill on one guy because you

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 2>really don't know who's gonna beat you. You don't know,

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 2>you don't know, you never know because it's so many.

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like tonight, yeah, okay, you get thirty two,

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>You get thirty two from Halliburton, you got thirty from Siakam.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>But normally it's a guy into.

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<v Speaker 2>Like twenty three to twenty five and you got nineteen seventeen, eighteen, sixteen, thirteen, twelve.

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>You normally have six guys in double figure how guy

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 2>might have twenty three, low guy might have twelve, But

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>you got six guys in double figures. And so when

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't know, well who they gonna get a ball

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 2>to the open guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So who do we key on?

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>You better pay attention to everybody because everybody is a lot.

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>And see it's great players.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, you know look, you and I we were

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>pretty much always the number one receiver, the number two receivers.

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 2>But when you know that quarterback, you know what, man,

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I know oo the guy, but you know they double ocho,

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 2>they gonna come to me.

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>It's something, it's something in you.

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 2>That tells you, like, man, I got a real chance

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 2>to get this ball. The pacers, every last one of

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the pacers, if you're on the court, they really believe

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>they can get the ball. You know why though, You

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 2>know why because that point guard, he's a past first

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<v Speaker 2>point guard.

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<v Speaker 1>He always is ocho.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>When you watch when you watch Hallan Burke play Oo Washington,

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>when he get the rebound and he get the ball,

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the first thing goes up in his eye, yep, looking

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<v Speaker 2>up the court because he's trying to see who's open.

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>He gonna kick it ahead. He gonna make the right

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<v Speaker 2>play every time. And then if it's not there, he

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna come down, run his pick and roll or whatever

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>you give him, he gonna take it. He shots from

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<v Speaker 2>deep threes tonight two three feed, Oh yeah, the three feet.

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Behind the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on. But when they go in, you're like, okay,

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, and that I mean, you look at it

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>this like I said, he got that Kevin Martin Shott.

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not it's not aesthetically pleasing. It's not a Steph Curry.

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not. Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not all that rule. But he shooting so damn high.

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm make sometimes the camera, lose sight of the ball.

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like with damn every time he shoot arking Ocho.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Just watch his follow through when we stay followed through,

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Lee your elbow, buff your eyebrow. I don't care what

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 2>it looked like. How he get it up there, his father,

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>it was all. It's the same every time, every time,

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<v Speaker 2>every time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hey, hey, hey, you know it's surprising to about

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 3>halla Burton and we hear about what the player said,

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 3>the so called players you know, call them, you know,

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of overrated. And then and you watch what he's

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 3>been able to do on his team from an individual standpoint,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 3>and you look at the game he had tonight to

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 3>be able to be as aggressive as he was for

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>four quarters, to be efficient, to be able to facilitate,

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 3>to get his teammates involved, also be able to score

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 3>as well. Then the motherfucker had the nerve not to

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<v Speaker 3>turn the damn ball over like he got damn video game. Yep,

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 3>this ain't two K. This is actually real. This is

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>real basketball against other elite players that get paid as well.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And you damn that had not a perfect game, but shit,

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>you damn they're perfect as the video game.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>But he's not a turnover guy.

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>If you go back, he's had a lot of fifteen assists,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>no turnovers. He has a lot of double digital sists

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and no turnovers, more low turnovers. He's not a he's

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 2>not a heaviest heavy turnover guy. You know, sometimes guys

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>might have ten assists and have six turnovers.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>That's not him.

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>He's more have to have ten eleven assists, one to

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>two turnovers.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>If he gets three, you're like, well, damn had it?

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>What's going on? But go ahead, Joe.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I I think the most impressive thing Ojo is that, yeah,

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have no turnovers. But to do that against

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the Knicks, who have long, rangy guys defensive they Yes,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>you know that's impressive to go to play almost forty

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>minutes with zero assists and have them to have a

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>big stat lie zero turnovers.

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's impressive.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 2>But yes, I think Hallibert, even when he's not scoring

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the ball as well, he's still taking care of the

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>rock and making sure, yes, facilitating for other guys. And

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>tonight he just kind of got it going. He had

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>everything working going to the Cup. He shot a couple

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 2>of mid range joncles, he shot them deep threes. Yeah,

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Oto you can't double team nobody like that because he

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>got too many guys around him. And like I say,

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>he's willing passers. So that's what he wanted. If you

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 2>double team, he gonna make the right play every time. Yeah,

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>you know he's tall enough to see over it.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Hey, don't don't, ok, Joe, I don't mean to

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>junk the gun like this, right, But.

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 3>As good as they are in transition, you know, especially

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 3>offensively up and down the court, and as good as

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 3>the thundercar offensively as well, the long, lengthy, especially defensively,

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 3>it can be a struggle.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a struggle for Anthony and Julius. How do

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you see the matchup?

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 3>And I hate to jump the gun and jumping ahead

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 3>when that series is not over, But how do you

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 3>see the series playing out against the Thunder and the Pacers?

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Hey love, go ahead, it's so, I mean, they love

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the Thunder.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Got six guys that are really, really really good on

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the wing. You got lou Dort, you got Jylen Williams,

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>you got Wallace, you got Wiggins, you got Caruso, you

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>got Isaiah Joe. You got six guys that can defend,

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>that can slide one through three. So we've seen them

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>what they We've seen what they've done to ant Man,

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>We've seen what they've done to Ju Ramdle. We saw

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 2>them basically play a boxing one and say, Caruso, you

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>got yo kids, this team, they're more alike than not. Now,

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Pacers don't have a shade. That's the difference, Shaye. You

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 2>let him play one on one. They don't have a

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>defender that can deal with it if you let him

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>play one on one. And that's where and that's where

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>the timberwol are messing up because they believe McDaniels can

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>deal with him and he cannot. When a guy is

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>in an MVP season and he's playing like he's playing

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>because guess what, he's always gonna still aggressive.

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>At this point in time, he's chunk this efficiency out

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the window. Yeah yeah, I'm not. I'm not.

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm serious on Joe, He's like, the hell with this efficiency? Yeah,

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>you can do shot thirty. He got forty points, He

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>had forty points, but he took him thirty shots.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>He said, I don't care.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you can't, he said when we talked about it

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 2>last night, Oh, Joe, is gonna happen when you're aggressive.

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna make it, you're gonna miss it, or you're

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna get fouled.

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Look how many times he went to the free

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>throw line. So it would be a great matchup if

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>if it were to happen. I think it's over for

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the Wolves. I think that their series ends tomorrow. They're

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>not going back to mil They're going back to Minnesota,

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but the Thunder will not be a up them. They're

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 2>going back, but the Thunder's not coming with them. The

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Thunder's not going back to Minnesota until maybe October, November,

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>December of next year or this year. That's the next

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>time you'll see the Thunder. I don't know if anybody lives.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if any Thunder player is from the

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis or Minnesota area. But they're not coming back. This

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 2>series is gonna end. PACER's got to be on their

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 2>best behavior because the Knicks is gonna gonna empty the

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>tank on you. They're gonna give you everything they got

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>because a one game at a time. Hey, let's win

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>this game and see what happens in game six. All

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about is game five.

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, wait a minute, now, it sounds like you

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>have hope.

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Now, I know I picked the Knicks win the series,

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>but the way things are looking and I'm kind of

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 3>jumping saying this series is over, but it sounds like

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 3>you think the Knicks have a chance to come back.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh they got to said, Look, all the games have

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>been close, O Joe. It's not like you know, it's

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>not like the series on the other side. What it's

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>a forty point win. It's a thirty point where we

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>would have had one game that we that we were

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 2>that we were watching in the fourth quarter. We've had

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>one game in which we were watching in the fourth quarter,

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and that was that was last night. Other than that,

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>or Joe, that game was over in the first half. Hey,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>look all the game and the game was over midway

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>through the third quarter. So there haven't been any suspense,

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>any drama any man. I don't know, man, this game

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>would go eat No. That was last night and that

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 2>was like the last couple of minutes of the ball game. Yeah,

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>because basically they kept him at bay. The thunder kept

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>them at bay for the entirety of the game. What

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>you're thinking on, Joe about the excuse me, Joe, what

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>you're thinking about the defense for the Thunder versus this,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>if this were to beat the matchup Indiana and Okay,

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>see man, I'm I'm I'm probably gonna I'm leaning more

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>toward the Thunder because they got a lot of guys

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>that you know, that offensively that can explode as well.

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>But they'll more polished, I think than uh than the Pacers.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Uh they Yeah, he gonna he may have threw his

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>officiency out the window. See the one thing about him,

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>He probably donna shoot the three ball well, Ojo, but

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>he gonna get to the MIDI man, he gonna shoot

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>his media all night long. You feel me be able

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>to stop that unless you're gonna double Teami. But you

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna double team because he got too many guys

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 2>who can score the ball as well.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of hard. Uh the Pacers.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Who you put on him, because you gotta realize Shay

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven. So if you put the smith on him,

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be able to shoot over the top of him.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 2>You put them hard on him, he's gonna be able

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>to shoot it over the top of him. You're probably

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you probably gonna Startika. You start Siakam Miles Turner Uhiaka

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>probably will take check. Yeah, and Miles Turner will take Hartenstein. Yeah,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>and then Smith. You're gonna probably the Smith on him,

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>but I'm probably I think the.

0:33:59.320 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Check homeber.

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's gonna be a tough matchup for Hungry because Hcom, you.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Know, he's more of a perimeter player.

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>He's kind of slippery, you know when he plays, and

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's gonna give Hungry, you know, a

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 2>few problems.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Plus Siakam he's not used to playing the guy that

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 2>can put the ball on the floor, like can Yeah,

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. Not only can't he shoot the ball,

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>but he can put the ball on the floor. And

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, Hungerd is more out he wants to protect

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the paint. Yeah, and so he's gonna be playing a

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.479
<v Speaker 2>guy that's really not trying to play with a guy's

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>seven foot tall. He's not trying to play with his

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 2>back to the basket. He's trying to get you out

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 2>of a perimeter. He's trying to drag you to the deep. Yeah,

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 2>drown you out there. So it's it's a very interesting matchup.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 2>But let these two guys, let these two teams finish

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>it off, and then then we can have this conversation,

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Kendrick Perkins doesn't think Anthony Edwards can be the face

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 2>of the NBA. Perk said, you got to check the

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 2>boxes when you're the face of the league. You know,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>we gotta have a signature shoe, You got to do

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>big commercials. You gotta have high lights, you got to

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 2>have a game. But you know what you got to

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 2>have gotta be a roll bottle and things outside the lines. Now,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>if you go down the list and check all the faces,

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>you know you look at Bird Magic. I could have

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 2>swear I don't got it. Said that last year and

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>everybody looked at me. Oh Joe, they killed me when

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>they say hill. I said this very same thing on

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>ESPN and people I said, go back and look at

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the end. I said, how many faces of the NBA

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>weren't married? But anyway, let me finish on. You gonna

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>look at Larr Bird, Maggie Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant,

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Shaq Lebron's steath. What did they all have in common?

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 2>They were family men. They were all mad with kids.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 2>But see when I said it, because I'm a football player,

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 2>what do you know, I just followed the game. I've

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>been following the game a lot longer, playing a lot

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>closer attention. And when you go back and study the

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>guys that's been the face of the league, what do

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>they have in common? Why is it so easy for quarterbacks?

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Look at the quarterbacks? Oh, Joe, go back and study

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 2>the quarterbacks have been face of the league. What are

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 2>they all having? I told you, I told you if

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I can study the NBA player, Joe, what do they

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>have in common?

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>But see when I said it and chat y'all know

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I said it.

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Everybody, Steve when ain't looked at me, Molly wanted to

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 2>just like, I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, bro'

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying is just go study it, Go look

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 2>at the guys that's been in the face of the league.

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm saying, what what what you think it is?

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a Joe honestly, you know what I think

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 3>it is. I think it's an unwritten rule.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Joe. You you married, right, Joe? I ain't married. Listen,

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but still you you he married? He just ain't got

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the paperwork.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 3>But go ahead, Hello, But if you look, if you

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:44.760
<v Speaker 3>look at that, things are going in your life, Joe,

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 3>you understand God is blessing you.

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, for for some.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Reason, things are always going right when you have stability,

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 3>when you have a foundation, the bill on right. Hey,

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 3>when you talk about the football players, it ain't no

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 3>goddamn coincidence. All the ones that are carry or engage

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 3>you notice how life is going. I'm not talking about

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 3>off the field. How about off the field? Everybody just

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 3>named that's married with Kenny Perkins said, and he said, hey,

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 3>let me put my guy there and ring on.

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Shoot, but anyway, ojo, before you go in the father, Yeah,

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>who what quarterback just got engaged last year about to

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>get married? He up in Buffalo? Oh, josh'll shouting? And

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 2>what Patrick Mahome? What did Patrick Mahomes Doojo?

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Man, it's not a coincidence on but not only are

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 3>they good at not only are they good at their craft.

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>But what did Tom Brady gonna do? Ojo? What did

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manny do? Ojo? Ya? M way, Marino go back

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and study it.

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 2>The only guy, the only guy that you can definitively say,

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:49.439
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if he was ever to face

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the lead with your name of at the quarterback position.

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Hey, but Joe is a player Joe's a player.

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Rogerstback Rogers Tharback says, hey, I just ad, I'm just like,

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:04.240
<v Speaker 2>but I just like what I got one woman? He listen, So, okay,

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I could see eliminating the distractions, you know, things of

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that sort.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>But what is it? What is it? Joe?

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna be able to get that because the

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>people look at what the tiger.

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Look at what did tiger do? He went and got.

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Married, didn't he? Yeah, what did tiger do? He went

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and got married. And when everything came because he sold family.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 2>He sold security. That's what he sold. And when it

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't happen, everybody was up in arms. It wasn't that

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 2>he but it's what you sold us. You sold us.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It's called stability. That's what you're feeling.

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>That's stability. We listen that a guy that got a

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>wife and got kids.

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Now see you might say, well, hey, I know I

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>saw him X, Y, and Z, but the general public

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 2>might not ever see him.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>They see every time he does an interview.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 2>He got his daughter, Steph Curry, where Steph Curry was

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 2>started going to the playoffs, and they going to the NBA.

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Tell them who's sitting on who's sitting on that desk.

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Pretty who's right there beside it? Do it in minty,

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 2>y'all remember that? And his wife in the tunnel, give

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 2>him a kiss? You see that?

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 2>O Joe, I don't it ain't too late for for

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 2>for a Oh no, no.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no.

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying he's he's at the tender age of

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty three, O Joe.

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh he he at the ten days. He still got

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>some time. Yes, I keep forgetting add only twenty three.

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and look he didn't he done took his his

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>lungs and bruises throughout you know, the NBA.

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Seasons, the postseasons. He's been through.

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>He's been through floors, you know, Yes, tim of Comey,

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>they've played great basketball. But yeah, they still got a

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>little growing to do. Who they're talking about? Hold on,

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>oh Joe, who they talk about being the face? Tell

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the people at home, oh Joe, sga. Tell him what

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>his status is? If he checking the single box, for

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 2>he's checking the married box, Tell him what he checking, O.

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Joe, you're married? Yeah? Absolutely, yes, absolutely, I ain't know that.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I ain't know that. What about Nicola Yokich? Is he bad? You?

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:16.280
<v Speaker 1>You married too? What about Luca? Is he bad? Everybody?

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I'm going I'm will listen. I'm going to give

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 3>me some sstabllity.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, you're ready to jump that broom? Maji? Oh

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>why ain't playing boy? January? What? Jay?

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Matter of fact, I'm getting on my on my birthday?

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 3>When your birthday January ninth, nineteen sixty eight.

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 2>That same that same birthday, my son bro for real,

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw at eighteen, just graduated high school this year.

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, January, that's my dog, my dog.

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I have my birthday dog. I say, what's happening?

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm tellinghim, But I got to watch you out, though, boy,

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 2>y'all sneaky boy?

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Whoa wait yeah, whoa whoa whoa me? You with you?

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>A capar Yeah? But Capricorn? I hope I listen.

0:40:56.719 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 3>Signs don't don't really identify everybody that born in that month.

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 1>That really that's I'm saying.

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying all of it pertains to you, but

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 2>y'all got a lot of similarities.

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 3>And there we go, there we go, there we go. No, No,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 3>because I listen, I I don't. I'm not into signs.

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know much about signs, you know. I hear

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 3>from time to time and you meet people, but I

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 3>get along with everybody. Everybody loves me, regardless of what

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 3>signed they are.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't.

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand. I'm I'm nothing like what they say.

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Capt pms are like, I'm a good dude, and.

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking for I'm gonna saying you're a bad dude.

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think dude, Yeah, yeah, I'm a good Now,

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a good dude. I'm good dude. Watch you. Yeah,

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, but I.

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Know a guy said this, and I listed all the guys,

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 2>A lot of the guys that per name.

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I listed those guys.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's what happens when you let a football guy

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about basketball. Now there's a basketball guy. See they

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 2>all looking Obviously it touched the nerve. I'll just go

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 2>back and look at the face of the NBA and

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 2>tell me and tell me what they were.

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Take football aside.

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Tell me what the guy any, Tell me the guy

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that's been the face of the NBA that did not.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>A show display stability. Tell me the guy.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Hey, y'all, I'm with you when you rite yeah, Hey,

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 3>do you think you think Anthony Edwards could be the

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 3>first one to change that.

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Boy.

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Hey, there's family value, there's morals than some people just

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 2>don't cut it. I mean, it's it's different, it's different. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.319
<v Speaker 2>there is. But they say the problem is a lot

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>of people. They said, hey, they're trying to destroy the

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 2>new clear the family nuclear No.

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, listen, everyone operates at a different frequency, everybody.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can operate that. You just can't be the

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 2>face of the NBA. You can operate that. Okay, Yeah,

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you're right, You're right, right, And that's what And I

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>think that's a large part of why he doesn't Because

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't. I don't want to do that. I still

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>want to go of my little dives holding the wall.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Y'all don't see me. I got my shades on, I've

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.720
<v Speaker 2>took them to cut.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want all that.

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't want all of that that comes along with

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>being because now you got people, now you got people

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 2>really out there trying to in your in your business,

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 2>trying to lift the covers up so they can show

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>the world what you really do it and then let

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the cover fall back down on you.

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 3>And him only and and only, being twenty three, you

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 3>have to move You're twenty three.

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Hold on.

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>You got to move completely different, compete different once you

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 3>cross that line open the marriage and the having stability,

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 3>and you have to at that age, with that kind

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 3>of money, you're going.

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 1>To know and most of and most of the guys

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>we can't even in Atlanta too.

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the and the thing to a lot of

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 2>these guys. Lebron knew Savannah since they were fourteen. Steph

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 2>knew Aisha when they were teenagers. Magic new Cookie. Steph meant,

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 2>excuse me not, Stephan. Kobe met Vanessa his first the

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 2>second year in the NBA. He's nineteen, eighteen nineteen. She's

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 2>a senior in high school or junior high school. Man

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>ant Man is twenty three. You gotta realize Kobe's nineteen

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 2>at man is twenty three. He meets somebody, it's like, okay,

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.720
<v Speaker 2>this is it for me? Hey, I met mine?

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Got it? Yeah? How up? Magic with Dayton Cookie in college. Yeah.

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's a different time now if and it's hard,

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 2>it's getting harder and harder today.

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>In need to date because it's because you don't know.

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you don't.

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 2>But I for me looking at it from a distance

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 2>and studying the NBA like I have and looking at

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 2>faces of the NBA. Go back and look at the

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 2>guys that was the face of the NBA, and look

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 2>at this their home situation.

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, ay, Joe, I want you to watch, uh right,

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 3>you see. I want you to pay attention to people

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 3>in the chail. I want you to pay attention to

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the difference in our cups. All our cups are running

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 3>over right now. Everything is going good, everything is going smooth.

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Now I want you to I want you to see

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 3>how life changes for your boy in twenty twenty six

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 3>when it.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Crossed that room, hear me, Yeah, yeah, yea. I want you.

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 3>I want you to see how life changes for me. Now,

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 3>what I want you to do is I want you

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 3>to pay attention.

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Remember I told you this. I'm told hey, it's May.

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 3>It's May twenty seven, yes, twenty five. When I jump

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 3>that room after my birthday. I want you to see

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 3>how life changes exponentially. And I want you to follow

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 3>suit right behind me to my all Yeah, yeah, god, dad,

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 3>he gonna gonna You're gonna drop the matter of fact, we're gonna.

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Jump he Hey, Ojo, it's time for him to put

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 2>it up. You got to put it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 2>because listen, we need to listen. We need to be

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 2>were gonna we gonna be on the right track, right, Okay, Yeah,

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be on the right track. So I'm gonna

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and take the lead. I'm gonna start it off.

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be like Basball, You're gonna be yeah, shit,

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 3>you got time to play way.

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Charles Barkley also chimed in on the face of the league. Hey, ESPN,

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I love you guys. Don't try to make a man,

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 2>he said Anthony edwas, but don't like, don't don't try

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>to make Anthony Edwards the face of the NBA.

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>There's the face of the NBA. It's Shay Gilgers, It's

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Nicola Jokic. It's honest. You can't give it to people.

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>They have to take it. And SGA is taking it

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he is man, But that means and look, once

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 2>somebody tells you so, I mean and man told him

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 2>that that's not what I want. Yeah, And it's like

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 2>the more the more he says he doesn't want it,

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the more people try to bestore the puny.

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 3>But you know why, you know why, it has nothing

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 3>to do with you know, forget I'm not. Obviously, people

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 3>are gonna say, oh, look how he's playing.

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Listen, he has this as good.

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 2>As he personality, he has careers, but he has charm,

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>he has everything that you have.

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, as good as year he is, he still doesn't

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 3>have that it factor that Ann has. He just doesn't

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 3>as great as he is Joe, He's I just think

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 3>it's hard for for.

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>A foreign born player to be the face of the NBA.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I just do. Yeah.

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 3>You think you think you know where? You think that

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:29.800
<v Speaker 3>has anything to do with it? You think, no, a

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 3>little bit smidge be the.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Same thing you think.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you think uh an American born player can be

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the face of football European football soccer?

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's impossible.

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 3>You would have to be a see' that's that would

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 3>that would would that would be damn near impossible. And

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no disrespect impossible.

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's getting my man, get get a man, a little

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:57.479
<v Speaker 2>time man. Yeah, you're still at attender age.

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twenty three, ain't. No.

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.839
<v Speaker 2>It takes a special type of something because both because

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 2>you got to go back and you go back and

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 2>think like Magic was twenty Yeah when he came into

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the league.

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>You want to he won the championship Bird all those

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>other guys.

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:15.359
<v Speaker 2>But normally, you know, guys were guys with twenty two

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty three where they was getting to the league.

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>O Joe. Yeah, And so now guys are one and done.

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>You have eighteen.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I ain't no eighteen year old about to get married

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 2>nineteen year old. Hey, look, because you live in the

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:32.719
<v Speaker 2>American dream. This is something that you've dreamed about since

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 2>she was a kid. Now that you get to this point,

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 2>especially at a young young age nineteen twenty, man, you

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>ain't trying to be tied down.

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to go out down.

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 3>You got you gotta be mentally you have to be

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 3>mentally prepared. You got to be messed ready for that.

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Because oh, I think you gotta come from like you

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>gotta have parents that were married. You have to have

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 2>been been so I think I think if you was

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>raised in the household and your parents have been married,

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a lot easier because look, okay, oh Joe,

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 2>all my partners I grew up with, yeah, man, listen,

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 2>they all married, but they are all the parents.

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>They've all been married since we were kids.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Bro, I'm the only one grew up in a single

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 2>parent household, right, you know what I'm saying. But my

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>closest homeboys, my closest homeboys, they married.

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Joe, it also come down actually finding someone actually

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 3>you can marry.

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Though there's a difference.

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 3>It's not We ain't talk about jes aesthetics, you know,

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about someone of substance outside of just looks.

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.800
<v Speaker 3>So actually finding someone to marry is is that's the difficult.

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:40.840
<v Speaker 3>That's also difficult.

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I hear. I come from mind.

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I come from a where a one parent you know, household.

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I didn't do things the traditional way, but I do

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 3>actually value marriage and want that. I want that stability,

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 3>especially at my at old age, after being out streets

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 3>a young you know, Joe, after being out in the

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 3>streets for so long and understanding what's out there that

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's an

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 3>investment when you get no return. I don't care how

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 3>much you're spending, and I don't care who you spent

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 3>it on. It looks good, it is esthetically pleasing. It's

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 3>good to be able to be someone sponsored for a while,

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 3>but it gets you nothing in return.

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, you gotta understand, you gotta understand the things that

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 2>you've experienced and been through, you know you, I mean

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 2>you were our forties now, so you know, I thought

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 2>process a lot different versus forties. I'm here the war

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 2>sixty to keep talking about. Imagine when you was twenty

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, twenty two. Boy, Look, they probably couldn't tell you.

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:45.439
<v Speaker 3>Nothing at all, no disrespect at all at all, because

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 3>it's nothing.

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't view it that weight.

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 3>So to eat and tie myself down or even think

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:53.720
<v Speaker 3>about having the discipline to do it at that age,

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 3>it would be Joe, It'd be impossible, Joe, it'd be

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.319
<v Speaker 3>but hell. To this point, even even even to they,

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 3>it's still been almost a struggle. Yeah, but my discipline

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 3>has gotten much It's gotten much much better now that

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I know what the f I want right, right, Different

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 3>people you experienced people differently, and different people that you

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 3>meet bring different sides of you out, and when you

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 3>meet the right person, you're like, well, god, damn, this

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 3>is different.

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn, I ain't got to go through this no more.

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Well ship, if this is how it'schooled to be, well, well,

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 3>it's easy for me to stop doing this because this

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 3>is what I have here.

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.919
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's hard to get people to understand like.

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, damn, I actually can do this shit because I

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 3>got the I mean, i'm speaking.

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not speaking for me in Jennal, I'm just speaking

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in general.

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 3>If you have the discipline to be great at one

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 3>at a sport you pore into it, then you can

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 3>also have the discipline to be great in other areas

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 3>in life too, in all aspects of life, you know.

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 1>What I mean? Yeah, I agree, it's been. It's been

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>in a good, a good, easy journey. It's been some

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>upstairs and some downs.

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.479
<v Speaker 3>You know, I had things that I thought were good

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 3>that didn't work.

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's still still cordial.

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, steal my dog and you know, just you're

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 3>going to go onto something new and you try to

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 3>try to flower that. You try to flower that and

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 3>and and hope it blooms the way it should, right,

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I get you.

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh, hey, don't we all off topic? My bad? What

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 1>y'all talking about? I mean, we're talking about the married thing?

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh jo oh yeah.

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, look, every my my grandmother and grandfather was married.

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Every last one of my uncles were married.

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 2>All of my aunts was married except one.

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Brother's married. My sister and I are not.

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 2>My mom was obviously to my dad, and then they

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 2>got a divorce and she got remarried. I'm trying to

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 2>think Burns is married, Bucket is married, said something.

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Huh. Hey.

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 3>The funny thing about it. Look, listen everything you just

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.359
<v Speaker 3>said right now right see the knockers at the door.

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 1>All you got to do is answer. All you gotta

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>do is answer now. I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:19.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna take that leap of faith for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start. Yeah, I'm gonna let you have it. Then, okay,

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 2>but you know I'm gonna play close attention to you.

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna study you. I'm gonna study. I will study you.

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be I'm gonna be. Let me be in

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<v Speaker 2>a printice right right, right right.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I got you, I said, matter of fact. I tell

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you what I tell you.

0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I do one better Joe, I do one better for

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 3>him right chat, when you decide to follow in my footsteps,

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 3>in the steps of God and finding stability in a

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.280
<v Speaker 3>good foundation to continue the build on what you already

0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 3>have going on, which is phenomenal. By the way, I

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 3>told you, the house is not a home until one

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna get a touch on it told you that I

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 3>don't care what you gotta go. I know things are great,

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 3>but I'm gonna pay you a fifty nine hundred we

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:09.280
<v Speaker 3>decided to jump that broom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh whoa, whoa?

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Will you not finna put that stipulation? Don't be telling

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 2>me you don't pay me my money and I get married?

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, Hey, that's cold. That's some cold work there.

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pay you your money what you decide once

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you decide to take that step.

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Boys, Hey, I under playing, just playing, under playing.

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna I'm gonna get it.

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get it to you. But what what hey?

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>What the day is? Today? Twenty seven forty seven is Tuesday? Yeah, yeah,

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 3>My month is my month of June. I ain't really

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 3>got nothing to do. I ain't really got no I

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 3>took care of my overhead.

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, I paid man.

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 3>June and got it out the way, so I don't

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:57.919
<v Speaker 3>really need nothing, so I got extra left over.

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that that to you. Some discourse has started

0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:05.439
<v Speaker 2>this week about how this Thunder team could be even

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 2>scarier no matter what's happening in this playoffs Thunder will

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 2>be adding Serbian star Nakola You'll Pitch to its rotation

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 2>next season. You'll Pitch was the number twelve pick in

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty four NBA Draft. It picked that OKC

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 2>got from Houston in the twenty nineteen Westbrook trade. But

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Yo Picch had a torn acl and would miss his

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 2>entire rookie season, and that scared the way most teams

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 2>except okay see. Before the injury, the sixth se You'll

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Pitch would viewed as a top five prospect as a

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 2>playmaking point guard. CBS sports Mark Draft had him as

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 2>high as number two at one point. Next season, he'll

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 2>finally make his NBA debut. Man, okay see, got a

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:52.799
<v Speaker 2>lot over there, Okay Olcher. I don't know how they're

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep all them guys together.

0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>They're not.

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 2>They got it because you know, hey that now, because

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Chakab can sign four two ninety four

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 2>or you can wait five for three eighty. Jayalen Williams

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 2>is gonna want to get paid. Chet's gonna want to

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 2>get paid. I mean, I like this guy because now

0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:12.839
<v Speaker 2>you got somebody that's gonna handle the ball with when

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Shade's on the bench. If he's what what they say

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.839
<v Speaker 2>to us, well, you know see, but uh it's gonna

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>be It gets hard, man, It gets hard on Joe

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:22.959
<v Speaker 2>because when you start winning, people come and start raiding

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 2>your henhouse. They want they want, they want your chicken

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that's been laying these golden eggs. And that's and that's

0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:30.839
<v Speaker 2>what happens. If you see it in football all the time,

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you see what happens. Uh, eventually Philly's not gonna be

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.640
<v Speaker 2>able to keep all these guys, those great defensive players.

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Now you play Jais, you play Jalen Carter. What you're

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:43.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna do with Jordan Davis? Hey, what you're gonna do.

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:45.319
<v Speaker 2>What you're gonna do with Cooper de John? What you're

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna do with brother Mitchell. What're you gonna do with theo? Yeah, okay,

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 2>when you winning, everybody, everybody eats, So you have to

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 2>go into the luxury tax.

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Got to take care of these guys.

0:56:57.400 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Just like if Boston would have won this year, man,

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:01.439
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have cared about paying

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 2>those dudes. Uh, they gonna break that thing up, Joe, now, y'all, yeah,

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 2>now they y'all, But just but I think even if

0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 2>they had one, I think they break it up because

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you got to you got to think about it. You

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 2>got for two guys making over three hundred million, you

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 2>got think about it. You got Derrick White, and you

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 2>got Holiday making well over one hundred million. You got

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Al Horford probably making thirty five to thirty eight million,

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 2>and you got Prezingers. I think I think if they

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.240
<v Speaker 2>if they had a chance to win it this year,

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I think they willing to go into the luxury tax

0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and pay that. It's just like, okay, see, if they

0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 2>win it this year, they gonna have to go into

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the luxury tax and they got to pay them dudes.

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>But I heard the thing, and see because I'm looking

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 1>at the Lakers. The Lakers had the same situation they

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted in twenty twenty and broke the whole thing up.

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know what that was about. I don't, right, y'all.

0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that was about. They had they

0:57:57.560 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 2>had a great team. I know it was in the bubble,

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 2>but they had a great team. And if them do,

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you got to break it back just to

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 2>see if you can repeat. I agree, So I think

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it makes you wonder like, was it something

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.320
<v Speaker 2>more to it than just basketball?

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? No, we'll never know.

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Uh. Carmelo Anthony and PG Paul George aren't convinced that

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Jannis will ask to be traded from Milwaukee, despite the

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 2>rumor surrounding his uncertain future with the organization. Giannis is

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:31.320
<v Speaker 2>that old cut era, that that old era cut? I

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>think you want to stay at Milwaukee's whole career. That's

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 2>what PG said. He ain't going nowhere. Janni's built Milwaukee.

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely, not that that that mattered, That matters, Not

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that matters.

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Not.

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:46.880
<v Speaker 3>I understand PG and Carmelo obviously very respectable, good for

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 3>good friends of mine. But honest, he's not going back

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 3>because he's gonna be the same thing every year.

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>The man wants to win, the man wants to contend

0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>for another title again. No, he didn't want to. He

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to lift the heavy old every single night.

0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Every He's for the way now than what he was

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 1>when he won his title.

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's why I don't see him going back. That's

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the problem that you're up against, is that. Guess what

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you see all the got What if Shae gets one

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 2>this year? Tatum already got one. I mean, you're not

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 2>worried about Steph and Lebron and Katie because they've already

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 2>done the the you know, next couple of years they're

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:26.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna be on their way out.

0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 1>But what about.

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, see, he ain't going nowhere at least for the

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 2>next year or two. How do if we talked about

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.640
<v Speaker 2>this last night, Joe, let's just say they break it back.

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Dame's not playing next year. So even if he goes

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 2>back to Milwaukee, they're not better than the Knicks. They're

0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 2>not better than the Cavaliers. They're not better than the Pacers.

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not so sure is that they can beat

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Boston with the roster that they have with just Giannis.

0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 2>So now, at best case scenario, oh if Orlando, if

1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Ben Carro and from Bagner stay healthy, they're not better

1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:08.800
<v Speaker 2>than them.

1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 1>So if best case scenario, you feel to six, Hey, look,

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I think.

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I think Giannis will always say the right things, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because he don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, he don't want that blowback.

1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Everybody go say the right thing, Joe's since they saw

1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:22.800
<v Speaker 2>what happened to Lebron.

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody goes all, y'all want to be here?

1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because at least Lebron played his

1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:33.800
<v Speaker 2>contract out. See, Lebron is one of those guys. He

1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 2>never asked to be traded. We play his contract out

1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and people hold him to the same standard the guys

1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:42.160
<v Speaker 2>that be asking for trades. Lebron is never asked to

1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:46.360
<v Speaker 2>be traded. Play the contract out. His ton contract was

1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:48.880
<v Speaker 2>up in Cleveland, he went to Miami. Contract was up

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.520
<v Speaker 2>in Miami. He went back to Cleveland. Contract was up

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:56.560
<v Speaker 2>in Cleveland, he went to LA. So you got to

1:00:56.600 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 2>think about it. Lebron is damn there as much time

1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 2>in LA. Has these his last stint in Cleveland, and

1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:06.720
<v Speaker 2>well with the Miami right, Yeah, Hey, love, I.

1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Can see young. I don't know how he gonna do it,

1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:11.920
<v Speaker 1>but I just see Yanni's moving this summer. Okay, hold Joe.

1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't see him coming going back to Milwaukee trying

1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to do all the heavy lifting by itself. It's gonna

1:01:18.560 --> 1:01:20.680
<v Speaker 2>be tough. It's gonna be challenging because they can't bring

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:23.600
<v Speaker 2>nobody in help him. I know, outside of what they

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.800
<v Speaker 2>already have. They can't bring nobody else in now and

1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:30.400
<v Speaker 2>then Saya bet players injured, But can you imagine if

1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Yannest gets traded to a team to all, I say,

1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:39.400
<v Speaker 2>the Mavericks or the Rockets, or you know, whatever the

1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.400
<v Speaker 2>case may be. The word go to state gonna try

1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:45.040
<v Speaker 2>to make a run for man. Can you imagine like

1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 2>he gonna have to still do some heavy lifting, but

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:48.400
<v Speaker 2>it ain't gonna be nothing like this.

1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it ain't gonna have a whole lot of heavy

1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>lifted if he got step on this team. I asked you,

1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked you that last night.

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<v Speaker 3>You know where where is the scenarios where he could go,

1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 3>where the situation would be different than what it is

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:03.600
<v Speaker 3>with Milwaukee Right now.

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you gotta break First of all, Steph is healthy.

1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Dame is not. They play different types of game. Steph

1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:13.320
<v Speaker 1>is perpetual motion.

1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:15.560
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna get a lot of wide open looks because

1:02:15.560 --> 1:02:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you gotta you, you gotta build a wall to.

1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Keep Yanni's out the paint.

1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:22.480
<v Speaker 2>And then when yann is kicked because you saw the

1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:24.920
<v Speaker 2>average six and sist he's getting better as a passer.

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:30.040
<v Speaker 2>So the thing is, he's just gonna have to get

1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of teams because teams going straight up, they're

1:02:33.600 --> 1:02:37.720
<v Speaker 2>only a handful of teams that could Okay, see Brooklyn,

1:02:38.480 --> 1:02:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Houston Rockets.

1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:41.920
<v Speaker 1>They're really the only team to have the draft capitol.

1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Houston have the draft capitol and the players, because you're

1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:47.320
<v Speaker 2>ready that you could pack a shingoon.

1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

1:02:51.080 --> 1:02:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh the Spurs, you have to. Spurs definitely have the capitol.

1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:56.480
<v Speaker 2>So there's only a handful of team to have draft

1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:57.440
<v Speaker 2>capitol and players.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, that's not fair. You can't. You can't put Wimby

1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and got them together.

1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Man, Hey, life ain't fail, partner, life ain't fail. You

1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:11.560
<v Speaker 2>put them on the team. Boy, Listen, you're gonna be

1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:16.040
<v Speaker 2>number ethans for show for show and what yeah, and

1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:17.280
<v Speaker 2>what what pick?

1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 1>What pick? The Spurs got? What the picked?

1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Spurs that got the two Spurs got the number two pick,

1:03:24.400 --> 1:03:26.280
<v Speaker 2>so you get a big dime draft.

1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:27.880
<v Speaker 1>They got plenty of the draft picks.

1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're gonna be willing to part

1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:34.720
<v Speaker 2>with obviously Stephen Castle and uh Wimby I would think

1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:38.320
<v Speaker 2>would be, but anything else. I mean, you got Fox,

1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:39.800
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to You're probably gonna have to get

1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:43.480
<v Speaker 2>off Castle. You okay, okay, if you got Fox, Yeah,

1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:46.560
<v Speaker 2>you got Fox, and I forgot Fox with there you

1:03:46.680 --> 1:03:47.800
<v Speaker 2>got so you got Fox?

1:03:48.080 --> 1:03:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Wimby Giannis, Yeah, man, you sure old Joe Wait, Darien Fox, Yeah,

1:03:54.880 --> 1:03:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Darren Fox. Yeah, No, that's not fair.

1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Because man, Waluker gonna want some stock power back, and

1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:06.760
<v Speaker 2>they have for Castle.

1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:09.400
<v Speaker 1>He's proven, you know, he just won Rookie of the Year.

1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:12.240
<v Speaker 1>So they gonna they gonna want some They gonna want

1:04:12.240 --> 1:04:13.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's gonna pack.

1:04:13.160 --> 1:04:15.600
<v Speaker 2>A punch, and I want him. I want a proven player.

1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I want a couple of proven player. I might take

1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Vassal and there Caldon Johnson too. Yeah, and I want

1:04:20.120 --> 1:04:21.840
<v Speaker 2>that number two pick and a couple of other picks

1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and some pick spots. Hey, for y'all, that's just worth

1:04:26.680 --> 1:04:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it because let me tell you, yeah, I think if

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<v Speaker 2>he plays with some some other great talent, he will

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<v Speaker 2>be more of a willing passer versus you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know he'll still be downhill, but I think he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>more reluctant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll pass a lot more versus just driving

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<v Speaker 2>in there, you know, just trying to get files and

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<v Speaker 2>things of that sort. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a cheat, cole Man, He's a cheat hole for sure. Yeah. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I told him, man, But six yeah, six eleven? What six?

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<v Speaker 1>Moving like a deer out there? Hu? You ready? Then

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<v Speaker 1>listen the volume