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Speaker 2: And wow, wow, wow, thank you for joining us for

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Speaker 2: another episode of Nightcap. The Indiana Pacers take a commanding

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Speaker 2: three to one lead one thirty one. Boy, what a

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Speaker 2: night for Tyrese Halliburton, Pascal Siakam and ben Adict Mattburn.

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Speaker 1: They carried the Pacers to a victory and.

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. Wild what a ball game? I am

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Speaker 2: beat the Knicks to take a three to one series lead.

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Speaker 2: They head back to MSG advanced to the first NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals since two thousand.

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Speaker 1: The first player in.

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Speaker 2: NBA history with a triple double and zero turnovers in

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Speaker 2: the Conference finals. Tyrese Halliburton. We talked about o chod

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Speaker 2: the other night. He needed to be more aggressive that

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Speaker 2: he was. That was not aggressive what he had the

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Speaker 2: other night. Tonight he had fifteen in the first court.

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Speaker 2: He had twenty in the first half. I say, now,

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Speaker 2: this is the Tyreese Halliburton that I wanted to see

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. He showed up tonight thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Points, fifteen assents, twelve rebounds, zero turnover. Pascal Siakam said,

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Speaker 2: it ain't no fun if I can't have nothing bad. Hey,

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Speaker 2: let me come to the party. Two thirty points, five rebounds,

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Speaker 2: played his best game in a long, long time in

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Speaker 1: Oh till we talked the other night.

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Speaker 2: Also, Joe, you were on I said, oh till look,

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Speaker 2: they only had four guys of double figures. They had

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Speaker 2: five to night and see that team sixteen thirteen. But

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Speaker 2: you got thirty two from Halliburton, you got thirty from Siakam,

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Speaker 2: Kat had another big game again, twenty four points, twelve rebounds,

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Speaker 2: I just it seemed like the Pacers understood the assignment, especially.

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Speaker 1: Halli Berd, Siakam, you know them.

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Speaker 2: Them dudes came out, Nate Smith, they came out and

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Speaker 2: But you get Mather and coming off the bench playing

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Speaker 1: He hadn't played well this series. He had not, he

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Speaker 1: He was aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna tell y'all another thing I like about

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Speaker 2: Mather and he kind of he a little borderline dirty.

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Speaker 2: He a little boreder Oh yeah, hurt Hey, Hey, but

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Speaker 2: I love it though, Ocho. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: HALLI Bert was unbelievable. I mean the triple not just

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, no turnovers, no turnover. That

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Speaker 2: I thought he got off to a great start and

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Speaker 2: controlled the game from start to finish. He's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: He hey, oh Joe.

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Speaker 2: He had to spend eight days in the county and

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Speaker 1: That's sixty two points.

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Speaker 2: Right there, but from your big guns, and you got

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Speaker 2: really needed to have Jalen Brunson and Cats to have

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Speaker 2: to try to overcome what the Pacers do collectively. O Joe,

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Speaker 2: the Knicks fault. I mean, they got it down, they

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Speaker 2: but then again, the Pacers could just run away with it.

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Speaker 2: What do you think happened with the Knicks this game?

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Speaker 2: Because it seemed like they came out, tried to keep

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Speaker 2: just seemed like they don't have that gear that the

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Speaker 2: and they also don't have the consistency off the bench.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brustling has to be on point. Cat, you gotta

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Speaker 3: stop with the dumb files. You know, I'm looking at Cat.

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Speaker 3: You grab you're grabbing people's arm.

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Speaker 1: You down there rastling in the paint instead of you're

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Speaker 3: Just just reset your arm, man, just reset your arm.

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Speaker 3: Unnecessary files being called. The first three quarters they did.

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Speaker 3: Let's you know, let's talk about the first half, Nick did,

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Speaker 3: but they could.

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Speaker 1: To keep the game close.

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Speaker 3: But toward that they ended towards the end of each quarter,

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Speaker 3: they god damn they are not only are they Knicks

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Speaker 3: losing the transition towards the end of each quarter. In

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Speaker 3: the first half, they got damn pacers going and goddamn run, Joe, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: going to run the end the goddamn quarter. The third quarter,

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Speaker 3: same thing in the third quarter, the goddamn pacis they

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Speaker 3: try to keep it close, the paces going and goddamn

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Speaker 3: running in the goddamned quarter. And in the four they

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Speaker 3: did what they needed to do, but that god damn Halliburton. Now,

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Speaker 3: we just had a conversation last night, Joe. You know,

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Speaker 3: we talked about superstars versus star and my dumb ass

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Speaker 3: with the superstars in the league based on tonight's performance,

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Speaker 3: not knowing just one game, but he's been very consistent

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Speaker 3: in it's in it's play throughout the whole season, not

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Speaker 3: just what we saw from the night. But I think

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Speaker 3: we need to have a conversation again about Halliburton being

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Speaker 3: a superstar and not just a star. I called him

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Speaker 1: You know he contributed as well.

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Speaker 3: Stressed to goddamn, stressed to goddamn New York defense. Make

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Speaker 2: To the man, hey, we talked. We talked about Pascal Siakam.

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Speaker 2: In game two, he had thirty nine big points and

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Speaker 2: and he's like, no, Pascal, now I'm not asking you

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Speaker 2: But he played. He was aggressive. He was aggressive tonight,

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Speaker 2: and that's what the Pacers need. They need their The

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Speaker 2: first of all, your two best players need to carry you.

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Speaker 2: It's really as simple as that. And then whatever we

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Speaker 2: whatever we get from the nim Hard, the matth Burns

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Speaker 2: and the Miles Turner. But your two best players gotta

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Speaker 2: do the heavy lifting. When the Lakers, it was Kobe

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Speaker 2: Dorry chipped in, Dark Fisher, Chip Ben Rick Fox, Chip

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Speaker 2: but your two guns got the fire. When you talking

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Speaker 2: about the heat, just a second, O Joe, we talked

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Speaker 2: about the heat. It was d Wade and Lebron for

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Speaker 2: the most part. And then we go get Chris Bosco

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Speaker 2: chip in. Then we gonna get Mike Miller helping out.

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Speaker 2: We'll get a you know what, a real give us

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Speaker 2: one of them twenty point games. We need that right now.

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Speaker 2: But your big guns need to fire more time than

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Speaker 2: often and again in this ball game. That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, O Joe, Yo.

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Speaker 3: Joe, I got a question for you, and I got

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Speaker 3: a question for you two and those in the chat

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Speaker 3: that understand the game of basketball. How come Pascal Siakam

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Speaker 3: and Halliburton could look the way they did tonight understanding

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Speaker 3: that we both have to play well, we both have

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Speaker 3: to be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: That's the top two guns.

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Speaker 3: Why did much easier or it seems much easier for

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Speaker 3: to Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall is are we saying?

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Speaker 1: Is is the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: That's saft or that no dear of an opponent as

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Speaker 3: But when I think about Anthony Edwards, as great as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think Anthony l was in Julius run.

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Speaker 2: Ocho, you know what I mean, Like once you get

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Speaker 2: what they wanted as far as holding him to where

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Speaker 2: he's not that effective offensively, the way he's not exploding. Okay, cool.

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Speaker 2: If mcdane's gonna beat us, we're gonna let him beat us.

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Speaker 2: If if these other these other guys gonna beat us,

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Speaker 1: But we're not gonna let you play this series.

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Speaker 2: But back to the Knicks and paces, I think the

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Speaker 2: pace is just it was too It was too fast

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Speaker 1: They they can't keep up with that pace.

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Speaker 2: Many they look good that first half, that first quarter,

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Speaker 2: they come out here just careless mist that that the

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Speaker 2: Pacers made him pay for it. They were on thirteen, oh,

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Speaker 2: run that quick next thing, you know, not in an

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Speaker 2: they played like it tonight. Hey, look, we gotta get

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Speaker 2: Nate Smith. A lot of credit to man. I know,

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Speaker 2: we all deal with injuries throughout our career. And when

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Speaker 2: to come. That's tough to it with, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. I don't know if they shot him up,

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Speaker 2: oo to start the game. I thought his defense was great,

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Speaker 2: and he was still active. He was still active on

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Speaker 2: both ends. Man, the Pacers look good tonight, Guys.

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Speaker 1: They look good.

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Speaker 2: They look like a team who's prepared to, you know,

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Speaker 1: Hey. I agree.

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Speaker 3: Now you think about the length and and how good

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Speaker 3: the game of runs, the transition, the second chance points

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Speaker 2: The Thunder match up better because the Thundering defenders got

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Speaker 2: so you got Door, you got Jaylen Williams, you got Wiggins, No,

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Speaker 1: Better, so much better. So that answers my question. That

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Speaker 3: That's why Halliburton and god damn Pascal Siakam look the

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Speaker 2: But you're not gonna play one on one. But but

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Speaker 2: They let him go with mcdanie's you got it, you're

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Speaker 2: our best defender. You're taking one on one, bro, he's

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Speaker 2: You're allowing their best player and the really great players

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Speaker 2: you do to him late, you can't bother. So they've

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Speaker 2: They're gonna try to track they they go to that

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Speaker 2: He let the three ball go. He had twelve three

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Speaker 2: Now he's kicking and guys getting wide open look threes.

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Speaker 2: He did an unbelievable job tonight of running that offense.

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Speaker 2: Guys did a great job of knocking down shots. This

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Speaker 2: Teammate TJ mcconnough, Hey, I know he's gonna give you three.

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Speaker 2: He gonna give you six. He gonna play hard, he

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Speaker 1: They really really really needed that tonight.

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Speaker 2: They needed past Gal Siaka because you remember when they

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Speaker 2: and it hit that big three. Guys, remember that big three,

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Speaker 2: Long three, you up almost, you're up seven? Why you

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Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, after he was playing good, he

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Speaker 1: You know, because they had the lead, all they gotta

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Speaker 2: You know, keep putting pressure on these dudes because they

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Speaker 2: And you're already you're already in the penalty. You got

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Speaker 2: shoot a three. Shoot the three get something going to

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Speaker 2: the back. Now, I saw a lot of times they

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, damn, it's specially.

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Speaker 3: Like the team, like the ref choose, they pick and

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Speaker 3: Hell, the god damn restling called the goddamn flag on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Hey, look to me, this like this

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Speaker 2: this is so competitive if.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you don't know who's gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Because the home teams hadn't been playing great and the

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Speaker 2: Pacers came out tonight, like I said, with it on

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Speaker 2: go back to New York with this series tied to too.

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Speaker 2: Sobi Obie Topping hit a big three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Obie Toping hit that three because it was laid

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Speaker 2: now now they they're very active on defense too, fellas,

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Speaker 2: they still fast breaking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, the Pacers still they beating them back

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Speaker 2: See, it's such a frantic pace that the Knicks have

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Speaker 2: And that's what and when you're not used to playing

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Speaker 1: He's trying to play more guys now he knows his.

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Speaker 2: Guys's playing at that fanatic place, and it's not conducing

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Speaker 2: Normally Michel Bridges playing forty three minutes, Jaylen Brunston's playing

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Speaker 2: grinding these guys nine guys and trying to play forty

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00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 2: plus minutes is really not conducing. Because the pacers play,

434
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 2: They're gonna play eight, nine, ten guys. That's who they are,

435
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: That's what they've been all year. There's no reason for

436
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 2: them to deviate from that. But I thought tonight they

437
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 2: came out on the mission they did not want to

438
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 2: go back to to the Martinson Square Garden because now

439
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 2: we really really have an effing series and it says,

440
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, what now if the mindset you gotta have,

441
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to end it.

442
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to end it in MSG. I don't want

443
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 1: to come back.

444
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 2: I know everybody, well, they want to do it in

445
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 2: front of the damn my home crowd. Celebrate, go go

446
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: to the arena. I don't know what the arena's called.

447
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: Go there.

448
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 2: We put it up on the big jumbo tron and

449
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: y'all can watch it and celebrate. No, I'm trying to

450
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to end this. Pay what to the Thursday?

451
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 2: I think they play Thursday, So I'm trying to end

452
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: it Thursday.

453
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

454
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't know who the pace of Strength and additioning

455
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 3: coach is, but he need an extra, he need ax,

456
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 3: You need a bump, and pay a need to bump

457
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 3: his pay because they basically a four by one team.

458
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: You know the starters going there, they're the first leg.

459
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 1: Then the bench. Know the bench come in, they the

460
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 1: second leg.

461
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: All up, build a light Steve Yakham, Halliburton, they all

462
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 2: built alike. They Miles Turner, They long and angular. They

463
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: got no big they ain't got no heavy set guys. No, no,

464
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: no big body guys. Yeah, and so you know that

465
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who the GM is, but

466
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: he does a great job. Guys that need to fit.

467
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: We need guys that can and and the thing is

468
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 2: is that you look at look at say how come

469
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: he can defend Nie Smith. He's there to defend Miles

470
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: Turner can protect the paint h Nim Hark and defend

471
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: Matt Burn.

472
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: He could defend.

473
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 2: So they got guys, and they got a high flyered

474
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: over topping coming out the bench.

475
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: TJ. McConnell is a pest.

476
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

477
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 1: He's gonna give you everything that he gots.

478
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: And like I said, they really needed this because Matt

479
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: Burn has not been playing. Remember he got kicked out

480
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 2: of the game in Cleveland with the low blow. I

481
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: think who was that on? Oh it was on the

482
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: guy you got they got from Atlanta, Oh yeah Hunter.

483
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 1: And so he got kicked out of the game. So

484
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: he really hadn't had a rhythm.

485
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: But he had eleven three throw attempts off the bitch

486
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: that unless you know he he's extremely and he only

487
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: played twelve minutes. That tells me he's extremely aggressive. He's

488
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: looking to get to the cup. He's like, man, my

489
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: shot ain't falling. Let me get something easy. Hey, look

490
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: like somebody was in his end and told him, Hey,

491
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 2: look man, we need you to come out here, put

492
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: your head down, go to work. And like I said, hey,

493
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: o Joe, he hey not borderline boy, he dirty? He

494
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: but hey, he could play on my team any day,

495
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 2: hear me.

496
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: Like when you said, when you say dirty, you mean dirty,

497
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: like like Drake, like Drayvon.

498
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: He ain't tried to hurt nobody, but he's trying to

499
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: help nobody up. And he gonna, Hey, he gonna slam

500
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: into the floor and then help you at the same time.

501
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: You all right, Hey, he wanted there, he wanted there.

502
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: Ain't them the worst dudes to play against, because boy,

503
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: they know going out there, hear me, Yeah, yeah, don't.

504
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't back down. He does not back down.

505
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: He doesn't matter who the superstar is, who the player

506
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: he's going against. Hes like he feels he belongs on

507
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 2: the court, and he's gonna play accordingly. So it doesn't

508
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: matter if it's Lebron, if it's Kevin the Red or

509
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: whomever he has to guard. It does not matter to him.

510
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't let your reputation dictate how he plays the game.

511
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: And that's what you could appreciate about this young man,

512
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: but I thought you they set the temple early. Rick

513
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: Carliles done a great job. You see the guys thirty.

514
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: Halliburton played thirty eight minutes and he played the most minute.

515
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: But you got eighteen minutes from Topping Bradley. Tony Bradley

516
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: gave you ten minutes. McConnell gave you nineteen, Matt bren

517
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: gave you twelve. Even Shepard gave you fourteen minutes tonight. Yeah,

518
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: I think, Hey, if matthurm plays like this off the bench,

519
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna have twenty or now

520
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: he was only five for eight. I know he shot

521
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: eleven free throws, they gonna be a tough team to beat.

522
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: Okay oho, you know if he comes out and he

523
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: compeace like this from ye rest of the series, man,

524
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: the Skuy's limit for the Pacers. Now, you hope you're

525
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: big guys, you know, continue to give you great production

526
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 2: like they did. I don't know if they gonna average thirty,

527
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: but they can be somewhere close to it.

528
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: They got so many guys who can beat you.

529
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: It's just tough to play against his Pacers team because

530
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: they're so gritty defensively and offensively.

531
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: They moved the ball and play the right way.

532
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: And it's hard to kill on one guy because you

533
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: really don't know who's gonna beat you. You don't know,

534
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: you don't know, you never know because it's so many.

535
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: I mean, like tonight, yeah, okay, you get thirty two,

536
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: You get thirty two from Halliburton, you got thirty from Siakam.

537
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: But normally it's a guy into.

538
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: Like twenty three to twenty five and you got nineteen seventeen, eighteen, sixteen, thirteen, twelve.

539
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: You normally have six guys in double figure how guy

540
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: might have twenty three, low guy might have twelve, But

541
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: you got six guys in double figures. And so when

542
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: you don't know, well who they gonna get a ball

543
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: to the open guy?

544
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah? So who do we key on?

545
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: You better pay attention to everybody because everybody is a lot.

546
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: And see it's great players.

547
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you know look, you and I we were

548
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: pretty much always the number one receiver, the number two receivers.

549
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: But when you know that quarterback, you know what, man,

550
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: I know oo the guy, but you know they double ocho,

551
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: they gonna come to me.

552
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: It's something, it's something in you.

553
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: That tells you, like, man, I got a real chance

554
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: to get this ball. The pacers, every last one of

555
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: the pacers, if you're on the court, they really believe

556
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: they can get the ball. You know why though, You

557
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: know why because that point guard, he's a past first

558
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: point guard.

559
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: He always is ocho.

560
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: When you watch when you watch Hallan Burke play Oo Washington,

561
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: when he get the rebound and he get the ball,

562
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: the first thing goes up in his eye, yep, looking

563
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: up the court because he's trying to see who's open.

564
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: He gonna kick it ahead. He gonna make the right

565
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: play every time. And then if it's not there, he

566
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: gonna come down, run his pick and roll or whatever

567
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: you give him, he gonna take it. He shots from

568
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: deep threes tonight two three feed, Oh yeah, the three feet.

569
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: Behind the line.

570
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: Hold on. But when they go in, you're like, okay,

571
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and that I mean, you look at it

572
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: this like I said, he got that Kevin Martin Shott.

573
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: It's not it's not aesthetically pleasing. It's not a Steph Curry.

574
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: It's not. Damn.

575
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: It's not all that rule. But he shooting so damn high.

576
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: I'm make sometimes the camera, lose sight of the ball.

577
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: I'm like with damn every time he shoot arking Ocho.

578
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: Just watch his follow through when we stay followed through,

579
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: Lee your elbow, buff your eyebrow. I don't care what

580
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: it looked like. How he get it up there, his father,

581
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: it was all. It's the same every time, every time,

582
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: every time.

583
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, hey, you know it's surprising to about

584
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: halla Burton and we hear about what the player said,

585
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: the so called players you know, call them, you know,

586
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: kind of overrated. And then and you watch what he's

587
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: been able to do on his team from an individual standpoint,

588
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: and you look at the game he had tonight to

589
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 3: be able to be as aggressive as he was for

590
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: four quarters, to be efficient, to be able to facilitate,

591
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: to get his teammates involved, also be able to score

592
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: as well. Then the motherfucker had the nerve not to

593
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: turn the damn ball over like he got damn video game. Yep,

594
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: this ain't two K. This is actually real. This is

595
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: real basketball against other elite players that get paid as well.

596
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: And you damn that had not a perfect game, but shit,

597
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: you damn they're perfect as the video game.

598
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: But he's not a turnover guy.

599
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: If you go back, he's had a lot of fifteen assists,

600
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: no turnovers. He has a lot of double digital sists

601
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: and no turnovers, more low turnovers. He's not a he's

602
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: not a heaviest heavy turnover guy. You know, sometimes guys

603
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: might have ten assists and have six turnovers.

604
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: That's not him.

605
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: He's more have to have ten eleven assists, one to

606
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: two turnovers.

607
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: If he gets three, you're like, well, damn had it?

608
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: What's going on? But go ahead, Joe.

609
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: I I think the most impressive thing Ojo is that, yeah,

610
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: he didn't have no turnovers. But to do that against

611
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: the Knicks, who have long, rangy guys defensive they Yes,

612
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: you know that's impressive to go to play almost forty

613
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: minutes with zero assists and have them to have a

614
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: big stat lie zero turnovers.

615
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's impressive.

616
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: But yes, I think Hallibert, even when he's not scoring

617
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: the ball as well, he's still taking care of the

618
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: rock and making sure, yes, facilitating for other guys. And

619
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: tonight he just kind of got it going. He had

620
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: everything working going to the Cup. He shot a couple

621
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: of mid range joncles, he shot them deep threes. Yeah,

622
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: Oto you can't double team nobody like that because he

623
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: got too many guys around him. And like I say,

624
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: he's willing passers. So that's what he wanted. If you

625
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: double team, he gonna make the right play every time. Yeah,

626
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: you know he's tall enough to see over it.

627
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, don't don't, ok, Joe, I don't mean to

628
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: junk the gun like this, right, But.

629
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: As good as they are in transition, you know, especially

630
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: offensively up and down the court, and as good as

631
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: the thundercar offensively as well, the long, lengthy, especially defensively,

632
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: it can be a struggle.

633
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: Like it's a struggle for Anthony and Julius. How do

634
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: you see the matchup?

635
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: And I hate to jump the gun and jumping ahead

636
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: when that series is not over, But how do you

637
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: see the series playing out against the Thunder and the Pacers?

638
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: Hey love, go ahead, it's so, I mean, they love

639
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: the Thunder.

640
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: Got six guys that are really, really really good on

641
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: the wing. You got lou Dort, you got Jylen Williams,

642
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: you got Wallace, you got Wiggins, you got Caruso, you

643
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: got Isaiah Joe. You got six guys that can defend,

644
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: that can slide one through three. So we've seen them

645
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: what they We've seen what they've done to ant Man,

646
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: We've seen what they've done to Ju Ramdle. We saw

647
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: them basically play a boxing one and say, Caruso, you

648
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: got yo kids, this team, they're more alike than not. Now,

649
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: Pacers don't have a shade. That's the difference, Shaye. You

650
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: let him play one on one. They don't have a

651
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: defender that can deal with it if you let him

652
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: play one on one. And that's where and that's where

653
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: the timberwol are messing up because they believe McDaniels can

654
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: deal with him and he cannot. When a guy is

655
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: in an MVP season and he's playing like he's playing

656
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: because guess what, he's always gonna still aggressive.

657
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: At this point in time, he's chunk this efficiency out

658
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: the window. Yeah yeah, I'm not. I'm not.

659
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm serious on Joe, He's like, the hell with this efficiency? Yeah,

660
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: you can do shot thirty. He got forty points, He

661
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: had forty points, but he took him thirty shots.

662
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: He said, I don't care.

663
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't, he said when we talked about it

664
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: last night, Oh, Joe, is gonna happen when you're aggressive.

665
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna make it, you're gonna miss it, or you're

666
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: gonna get fouled.

667
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Right.

668
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look how many times he went to the free

669
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: throw line. So it would be a great matchup if

670
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: if it were to happen. I think it's over for

671
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: the Wolves. I think that their series ends tomorrow. They're

672
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: not going back to mil They're going back to Minnesota,

673
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: but the Thunder will not be a up them. They're

674
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: going back, but the Thunder's not coming with them. The

675
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: Thunder's not going back to Minnesota until maybe October, November,

676
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: December of next year or this year. That's the next

677
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: time you'll see the Thunder. I don't know if anybody lives.

678
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if any Thunder player is from the

679
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: Minneapolis or Minnesota area. But they're not coming back. This

680
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: series is gonna end. PACER's got to be on their

681
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: best behavior because the Knicks is gonna gonna empty the

682
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: tank on you. They're gonna give you everything they got

683
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: because a one game at a time. Hey, let's win

684
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: this game and see what happens in game six. All

685
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about is game five.

686
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Hold on, wait a minute, now, it sounds like you

687
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: have hope.

688
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: Now, I know I picked the Knicks win the series,

689
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: but the way things are looking and I'm kind of

690
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: jumping saying this series is over, but it sounds like

691
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: you think the Knicks have a chance to come back.

692
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: Oh they got to said, Look, all the games have

693
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: been close, O Joe. It's not like you know, it's

694
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: not like the series on the other side. What it's

695
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: a forty point win. It's a thirty point where we

696
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: would have had one game that we that we were

697
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: that we were watching in the fourth quarter. We've had

698
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: one game in which we were watching in the fourth quarter,

699
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: and that was that was last night. Other than that,

700
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: or Joe, that game was over in the first half. Hey,

701
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: look all the game and the game was over midway

702
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: through the third quarter. So there haven't been any suspense,

703
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: any drama any man. I don't know, man, this game

704
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: would go eat No. That was last night and that

705
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: was like the last couple of minutes of the ball game. Yeah,

706
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: because basically they kept him at bay. The thunder kept

707
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: them at bay for the entirety of the game. What

708
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: you're thinking on, Joe about the excuse me, Joe, what

709
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: you're thinking about the defense for the Thunder versus this,

710
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: if this were to beat the matchup Indiana and Okay,

711
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: see man, I'm I'm I'm probably gonna I'm leaning more

712
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: toward the Thunder because they got a lot of guys

713
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: that you know, that offensively that can explode as well.

714
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: But they'll more polished, I think than uh than the Pacers.

715
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: Uh they Yeah, he gonna he may have threw his

716
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: officiency out the window. See the one thing about him,

717
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: He probably donna shoot the three ball well, Ojo, but

718
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: he gonna get to the MIDI man, he gonna shoot

719
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: his media all night long. You feel me be able

720
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: to stop that unless you're gonna double Teami. But you

721
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: ain't gonna double team because he got too many guys

722
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: who can score the ball as well.

723
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard. Uh the Pacers.

724
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: Who you put on him, because you gotta realize Shay

725
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: sixty seven. So if you put the smith on him,

726
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna be able to shoot over the top of him.

727
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: You put them hard on him, he's gonna be able

728
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: to shoot it over the top of him. You're probably

729
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: you probably gonna Startika. You start Siakam Miles Turner Uhiaka

730
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: probably will take check. Yeah, and Miles Turner will take Hartenstein. Yeah,

731
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: and then Smith. You're gonna probably the Smith on him,

732
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: but I'm probably I think the.

733
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Check homeber.

734
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: And that's gonna be a tough matchup for Hungry because Hcom, you.

735
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Know, he's more of a perimeter player.

736
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: He's kind of slippery, you know when he plays, and

737
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: I feel like that's gonna give Hungry, you know, a

738
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: few problems.

739
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

740
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Plus Siakam he's not used to playing the guy that

741
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: can put the ball on the floor, like can Yeah,

742
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Not only can't he shoot the ball,

743
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: but he can put the ball on the floor. And

744
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: you know, Hungerd is more out he wants to protect

745
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: the paint. Yeah, and so he's gonna be playing a

746
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 2: guy that's really not trying to play with a guy's

747
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: seven foot tall. He's not trying to play with his

748
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: back to the basket. He's trying to get you out

749
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 2: of a perimeter. He's trying to drag you to the deep. Yeah,

750
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: drown you out there. So it's it's a very interesting matchup.

751
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 2: But let these two guys, let these two teams finish

752
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: it off, and then then we can have this conversation,

753
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins doesn't think Anthony Edwards can be the face

754
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: of the NBA. Perk said, you got to check the

755
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: boxes when you're the face of the league. You know,

756
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: we gotta have a signature shoe, You got to do

757
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: big commercials. You gotta have high lights, you got to

758
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: have a game. But you know what you got to

759
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: have gotta be a roll bottle and things outside the lines. Now,

760
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: if you go down the list and check all the faces,

761
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: you know you look at Bird Magic. I could have

762
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: swear I don't got it. Said that last year and

763
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: everybody looked at me. Oh Joe, they killed me when

764
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: they say hill. I said this very same thing on

765
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: ESPN and people I said, go back and look at

766
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: the end. I said, how many faces of the NBA

767
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: weren't married? But anyway, let me finish on. You gonna

768
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: look at Larr Bird, Maggie Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant,

769
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: Shaq Lebron's steath. What did they all have in common?

770
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: They were family men. They were all mad with kids.

771
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: But see when I said it, because I'm a football player,

772
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: what do you know, I just followed the game. I've

773
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: been following the game a lot longer, playing a lot

774
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: closer attention. And when you go back and study the

775
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: guys that's been the face of the league, what do

776
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: they have in common? Why is it so easy for quarterbacks?

777
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: Look at the quarterbacks? Oh, Joe, go back and study

778
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks have been face of the league. What are

779
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: they all having? I told you, I told you if

780
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: I can study the NBA player, Joe, what do they

781
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: have in common?

782
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: But see when I said it and chat y'all know

783
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: I said it.

784
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Everybody, Steve when ain't looked at me, Molly wanted to

785
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: just like, I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, bro'

786
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: all I'm saying is just go study it, Go look

787
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: at the guys that's been in the face of the league.

788
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, what what what you think it is?

789
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: It's it's a Joe honestly, you know what I think

790
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: it is. I think it's an unwritten rule.

791
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: Joe. You you married, right, Joe? I ain't married. Listen,

792
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: but still you you he married? He just ain't got

793
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: the paperwork.

794
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: But go ahead, Hello, But if you look, if you

795
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 3: look at that, things are going in your life, Joe,

796
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: you understand God is blessing you.

797
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: You know, for for some.

798
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: Reason, things are always going right when you have stability,

799
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: when you have a foundation, the bill on right. Hey,

800
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: when you talk about the football players, it ain't no

801
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: goddamn coincidence. All the ones that are carry or engage

802
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: you notice how life is going. I'm not talking about

803
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: off the field. How about off the field? Everybody just

804
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: named that's married with Kenny Perkins said, and he said, hey,

805
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: let me put my guy there and ring on.

806
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: Shoot, but anyway, ojo, before you go in the father, Yeah,

807
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: who what quarterback just got engaged last year about to

808
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: get married? He up in Buffalo? Oh, josh'll shouting? And

809
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: what Patrick Mahome? What did Patrick Mahomes Doojo?

810
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: Man, it's not a coincidence on but not only are

811
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: they good at not only are they good at their craft.

812
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: But what did Tom Brady gonna do? Ojo? What did

813
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: Peyton Manny do? Ojo? Ya? M way, Marino go back

814
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: and study it.

815
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: The only guy, the only guy that you can definitively say,

816
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he was ever to face

817
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: the lead with your name of at the quarterback position.

818
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: Hey, but Joe is a player Joe's a player.

819
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: Rogerstback Rogers Tharback says, hey, I just ad, I'm just like,

820
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: but I just like what I got one woman? He listen, So, okay,

821
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: I could see eliminating the distractions, you know, things of

822
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: that sort.

823
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: But what is it? What is it? Joe?

824
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to get that because the

825
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: people look at what the tiger.

826
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: Look at what did tiger do? He went and got.

827
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: Married, didn't he? Yeah, what did tiger do? He went

828
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: and got married. And when everything came because he sold family.

829
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: He sold security. That's what he sold. And when it

830
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: didn't happen, everybody was up in arms. It wasn't that

831
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: he but it's what you sold us. You sold us.

832
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: It's called stability. That's what you're feeling.

833
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: That's stability. We listen that a guy that got a

834
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: wife and got kids.

835
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: Now see you might say, well, hey, I know I

836
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: saw him X, Y, and Z, but the general public

837
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: might not ever see him.

838
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: They see every time he does an interview.

839
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: He got his daughter, Steph Curry, where Steph Curry was

840
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: started going to the playoffs, and they going to the NBA.

841
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: Tell them who's sitting on who's sitting on that desk.

842
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: Pretty who's right there beside it? Do it in minty,

843
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: y'all remember that? And his wife in the tunnel, give

844
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: him a kiss? You see that?

845
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

846
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: O Joe, I don't it ain't too late for for

847
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 2: for a Oh no, no.

848
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no.

849
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: But I'm saying he's he's at the tender age of

850
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: twenty three, O Joe.

851
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh he he at the ten days. He still got

852
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: some time. Yes, I keep forgetting add only twenty three.

853
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: Yes, and look he didn't he done took his his

854
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: lungs and bruises throughout you know, the NBA.

855
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: Seasons, the postseasons. He's been through.

856
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: He's been through floors, you know, Yes, tim of Comey,

857
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: they've played great basketball. But yeah, they still got a

858
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: little growing to do. Who they're talking about? Hold on,

859
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: oh Joe, who they talk about being the face? Tell

860
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: the people at home, oh Joe, sga. Tell him what

861
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: his status is? If he checking the single box, for

862
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: he's checking the married box, Tell him what he checking, O.

863
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: Joe, you're married? Yeah? Absolutely, yes, absolutely, I ain't know that.

864
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: I ain't know that. What about Nicola Yokich? Is he bad? You?

865
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: You married too? What about Luca? Is he bad? Everybody?

866
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm going I'm will listen. I'm going to give

867
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: me some sstabllity.

868
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you're ready to jump that broom? Maji? Oh

869
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: why ain't playing boy? January? What? Jay?

870
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm getting on my on my birthday?

871
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 3: When your birthday January ninth, nineteen sixty eight.

872
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: That same that same birthday, my son bro for real,

873
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: I saw at eighteen, just graduated high school this year.

874
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, January, that's my dog, my dog.

875
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: I have my birthday dog. I say, what's happening?

876
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: I'm tellinghim, But I got to watch you out, though, boy,

877
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: y'all sneaky boy?

878
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Whoa wait yeah, whoa whoa whoa me? You with you?

879
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: A capar Yeah? But Capricorn? I hope I listen.

880
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 3: Signs don't don't really identify everybody that born in that month.

881
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: That really that's I'm saying.

882
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying all of it pertains to you, but

883
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: y'all got a lot of similarities.

884
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: And there we go, there we go, there we go. No, No,

885
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: because I listen, I I don't. I'm not into signs.

886
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: I don't know much about signs, you know. I hear

887
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: from time to time and you meet people, but I

888
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: get along with everybody. Everybody loves me, regardless of what

889
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: signed they are.

890
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

891
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: I don't understand. I'm I'm nothing like what they say.

892
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: Capt pms are like, I'm a good dude, and.

893
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: I'm just looking for I'm gonna saying you're a bad dude.

894
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I think dude, Yeah, yeah, I'm a good Now,

895
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm a good dude. I'm good dude. Watch you. Yeah,

896
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I.

897
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: Know a guy said this, and I listed all the guys,

898
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: A lot of the guys that per name.

899
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: I listed those guys.

900
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh that's what happens when you let a football guy

901
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: talk about basketball. Now there's a basketball guy. See they

902
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: all looking Obviously it touched the nerve. I'll just go

903
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: back and look at the face of the NBA and

904
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: tell me and tell me what they were.

905
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Take football aside.

906
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: Tell me what the guy any, Tell me the guy

907
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: that's been the face of the NBA that did not.

908
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: A show display stability. Tell me the guy.

909
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, I'm with you when you rite yeah, Hey,

910
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: do you think you think Anthony Edwards could be the

911
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: first one to change that.

912
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: Boy.

913
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: Hey, there's family value, there's morals than some people just

914
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: don't cut it. I mean, it's it's different, it's different. Yeah, yeah,

915
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: there is. But they say the problem is a lot

916
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: of people. They said, hey, they're trying to destroy the

917
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: new clear the family nuclear No.

918
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, everyone operates at a different frequency, everybody.

919
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: Okay, you can operate that. You just can't be the

920
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: face of the NBA. You can operate that. Okay, Yeah,

921
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: you're right, You're right, right, And that's what And I

922
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: think that's a large part of why he doesn't Because

923
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't. I don't want to do that. I still

924
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: want to go of my little dives holding the wall.

925
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: Y'all don't see me. I got my shades on, I've

926
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: took them to cut.

927
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't want all that.

928
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't want all of that that comes along with

929
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: being because now you got people, now you got people

930
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: really out there trying to in your in your business,

931
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: trying to lift the covers up so they can show

932
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: the world what you really do it and then let

933
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: the cover fall back down on you.

934
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: And him only and and only, being twenty three, you

935
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: have to move You're twenty three.

936
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: Hold on.

937
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: You got to move completely different, compete different once you

938
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: cross that line open the marriage and the having stability,

939
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: and you have to at that age, with that kind

940
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: of money, you're going.

941
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: To know and most of and most of the guys

942
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: we can't even in Atlanta too.

943
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the and the thing to a lot of

944
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: these guys. Lebron knew Savannah since they were fourteen. Steph

945
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: knew Aisha when they were teenagers. Magic new Cookie. Steph meant,

946
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: excuse me not, Stephan. Kobe met Vanessa his first the

947
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: second year in the NBA. He's nineteen, eighteen nineteen. She's

948
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: a senior in high school or junior high school. Man

949
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: ant Man is twenty three. You gotta realize Kobe's nineteen

950
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: at man is twenty three. He meets somebody, it's like, okay,

951
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: this is it for me? Hey, I met mine?

952
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah? How up? Magic with Dayton Cookie in college. Yeah.

953
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: So it's a different time now if and it's hard,

954
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: it's getting harder and harder today.

955
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: In need to date because it's because you don't know.

956
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't.

957
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: But I for me looking at it from a distance

958
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: and studying the NBA like I have and looking at

959
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: faces of the NBA. Go back and look at the

960
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: guys that was the face of the NBA, and look

961
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: at this their home situation.

962
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

963
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: Now, ay, Joe, I want you to watch, uh right,

964
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: you see. I want you to pay attention to people

965
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: in the chail. I want you to pay attention to

966
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: the difference in our cups. All our cups are running

967
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: over right now. Everything is going good, everything is going smooth.

968
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: Now I want you to I want you to see

969
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: how life changes for your boy in twenty twenty six

970
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: when it.

971
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: Crossed that room, hear me, Yeah, yeah, yea. I want you.

972
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: I want you to see how life changes for me. Now,

973
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: what I want you to do is I want you

974
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: to pay attention.

975
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: Now.

976
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: Remember I told you this. I'm told hey, it's May.

977
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: It's May twenty seven, yes, twenty five. When I jump

978
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: that room after my birthday. I want you to see

979
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: how life changes exponentially. And I want you to follow

980
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: suit right behind me to my all Yeah, yeah, god, dad,

981
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: he gonna gonna You're gonna drop the matter of fact, we're gonna.

982
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Jump he Hey, Ojo, it's time for him to put

983
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: it up. You got to put it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

984
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: because listen, we need to listen. We need to be

985
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: were gonna we gonna be on the right track, right, Okay, Yeah,

986
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: we're gonna be on the right track. So I'm gonna

987
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: go ahead and take the lead. I'm gonna start it off.

988
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like Basball, You're gonna be yeah, shit,

989
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: you got time to play way.

990
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley also chimed in on the face of the league. Hey, ESPN,

991
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: I love you guys. Don't try to make a man,

992
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: he said Anthony edwas, but don't like, don't don't try

993
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: to make Anthony Edwards the face of the NBA.

994
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: There's the face of the NBA. It's Shay Gilgers, It's

995
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic. It's honest. You can't give it to people.

996
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: They have to take it. And SGA is taking it

997
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: right now.

998
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is man, But that means and look, once

999
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: somebody tells you so, I mean and man told him

1000
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: that that's not what I want. Yeah, And it's like

1001
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: the more the more he says he doesn't want it,

1002
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: the more people try to bestore the puny.

1003
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: But you know why, you know why, it has nothing

1004
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: to do with you know, forget I'm not. Obviously, people

1005
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: are gonna say, oh, look how he's playing.

1006
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: Now.

1007
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: Listen, he has this as good.

1008
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: As he personality, he has careers, but he has charm,

1009
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: he has everything that you have.

1010
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: Yes, as good as year he is, he still doesn't

1011
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: have that it factor that Ann has. He just doesn't

1012
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: as great as he is Joe, He's I just think

1013
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: it's hard for for.

1014
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: A foreign born player to be the face of the NBA.

1015
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: I just do. Yeah.

1016
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 3: You think you think you know where? You think that

1017
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 3: has anything to do with it? You think, no, a

1018
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: little bit smidge be the.

1019
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: Same thing you think.

1020
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: Do you think uh an American born player can be

1021
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: the face of football European football soccer?

1022
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's impossible.

1023
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: You would have to be a see' that's that would

1024
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: that would would that would be damn near impossible. And

1025
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: I mean, no disrespect impossible.

1026
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: Let's getting my man, get get a man, a little

1027
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 2: time man. Yeah, you're still at attender age.

1028
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty three, ain't. No.

1029
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: It takes a special type of something because both because

1030
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: you got to go back and you go back and

1031
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: think like Magic was twenty Yeah when he came into

1032
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: the league.

1033
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: You want to he won the championship Bird all those

1034
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: other guys.

1035
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: But normally, you know, guys were guys with twenty two

1036
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: twenty three where they was getting to the league.

1037
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: O Joe. Yeah, And so now guys are one and done.

1038
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: You have eighteen.

1039
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: I ain't no eighteen year old about to get married

1040
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: nineteen year old. Hey, look, because you live in the

1041
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: American dream. This is something that you've dreamed about since

1042
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: she was a kid. Now that you get to this point,

1043
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: especially at a young young age nineteen twenty, man, you

1044
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: ain't trying to be tied down.

1045
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: You're trying to go out down.

1046
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: You got you gotta be mentally you have to be

1047
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: mentally prepared. You got to be messed ready for that.

1048
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: Because oh, I think you gotta come from like you

1049
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: gotta have parents that were married. You have to have

1050
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: been been so I think I think if you was

1051
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: raised in the household and your parents have been married,

1052
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot easier because look, okay, oh Joe,

1053
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: all my partners I grew up with, yeah, man, listen,

1054
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: they all married, but they are all the parents.

1055
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: They've all been married since we were kids.

1056
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm the only one grew up in a single

1057
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: parent household, right, you know what I'm saying. But my

1058
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: closest homeboys, my closest homeboys, they married.

1059
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, it also come down actually finding someone actually

1060
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: you can marry.

1061
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: Though there's a difference.

1062
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: It's not We ain't talk about jes aesthetics, you know,

1063
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm talking about someone of substance outside of just looks.

1064
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: So actually finding someone to marry is is that's the difficult.

1065
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: That's also difficult.

1066
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: I hear. I come from mind.

1067
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: I come from a where a one parent you know, household.

1068
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 3: I didn't do things the traditional way, but I do

1069
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: actually value marriage and want that. I want that stability,

1070
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: especially at my at old age, after being out streets

1071
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: a young you know, Joe, after being out in the

1072
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 3: streets for so long and understanding what's out there that

1073
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's an

1074
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: investment when you get no return. I don't care how

1075
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: much you're spending, and I don't care who you spent

1076
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: it on. It looks good, it is esthetically pleasing. It's

1077
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: good to be able to be someone sponsored for a while,

1078
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: but it gets you nothing in return.

1079
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta understand, you gotta understand the things that

1080
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: you've experienced and been through, you know you, I mean

1081
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: you were our forties now, so you know, I thought

1082
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: process a lot different versus forties. I'm here the war

1083
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: sixty to keep talking about. Imagine when you was twenty

1084
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two. Boy, Look, they probably couldn't tell you.

1085
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 3: Nothing at all, no disrespect at all at all, because

1086
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: it's nothing.

1087
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: I didn't view it that weight.

1088
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: So to eat and tie myself down or even think

1089
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 3: about having the discipline to do it at that age,

1090
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: it would be Joe, It'd be impossible, Joe, it'd be

1091
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 3: but hell. To this point, even even even to they,

1092
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: it's still been almost a struggle. Yeah, but my discipline

1093
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: has gotten much It's gotten much much better now that

1094
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: I know what the f I want right, right, Different

1095
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 3: people you experienced people differently, and different people that you

1096
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: meet bring different sides of you out, and when you

1097
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: meet the right person, you're like, well, god, damn, this

1098
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: is different.

1099
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, I ain't got to go through this no more.

1100
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: Well ship, if this is how it'schooled to be, well, well,

1101
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: it's easy for me to stop doing this because this

1102
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: is what I have here.

1103
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: So it's it's hard to get people to understand like.

1104
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 3: Well, damn, I actually can do this shit because I

1105
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: got the I mean, i'm speaking.

1106
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for me in Jennal, I'm just speaking

1107
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: in general.

1108
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: If you have the discipline to be great at one

1109
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: at a sport you pore into it, then you can

1110
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: also have the discipline to be great in other areas

1111
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: in life too, in all aspects of life, you know.

1112
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: What I mean? Yeah, I agree, it's been. It's been

1113
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: in a good, a good, easy journey. It's been some

1114
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: upstairs and some downs.

1115
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 3: You know, I had things that I thought were good

1116
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: that didn't work.

1117
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: But it's it's still still cordial.

1118
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: You know, steal my dog and you know, just you're

1119
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: going to go onto something new and you try to

1120
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: try to flower that. You try to flower that and

1121
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: and and hope it blooms the way it should, right,

1122
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: I get you.

1123
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh, hey, don't we all off topic? My bad? What

1124
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: y'all talking about? I mean, we're talking about the married thing?

1125
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: Oh jo oh yeah.

1126
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: Well, look, every my my grandmother and grandfather was married.

1127
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: Every last one of my uncles were married.

1128
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: All of my aunts was married except one.

1129
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: Brother's married. My sister and I are not.

1130
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: My mom was obviously to my dad, and then they

1131
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: got a divorce and she got remarried. I'm trying to

1132
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: think Burns is married, Bucket is married, said something.

1133
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: Huh. Hey.

1134
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it. Look, listen everything you just

1135
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 3: said right now right see the knockers at the door.

1136
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: All you got to do is answer. All you gotta

1137
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: do is answer now. I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm

1138
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: gonna take that leap of faith for you.

1139
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start. Yeah, I'm gonna let you have it. Then, okay,

1140
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: but you know I'm gonna play close attention to you.

1141
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna study you. I'm gonna study. I will study you.

1142
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be. Let me be in

1143
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: a printice right right, right right.

1144
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 3: I can't.

1145
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: I got you, I said, matter of fact. I tell

1146
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: you what I tell you.

1147
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: I do one better Joe, I do one better for

1148
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: him right chat, when you decide to follow in my footsteps,

1149
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: in the steps of God and finding stability in a

1150
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 3: good foundation to continue the build on what you already

1151
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: have going on, which is phenomenal. By the way, I

1152
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: told you, the house is not a home until one

1153
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 3: gonna get a touch on it told you that I

1154
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: don't care what you gotta go. I know things are great,

1155
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna pay you a fifty nine hundred we

1156
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: decided to jump that broom.

1157
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh whoa, whoa?

1158
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: Will you not finna put that stipulation? Don't be telling

1159
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: me you don't pay me my money and I get married?

1160
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: Oh man, Hey, that's cold. That's some cold work there.

1161
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay you your money what you decide once

1162
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: you decide to take that step.

1163
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: Boys, Hey, I under playing, just playing, under playing.

1164
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna I'm gonna get it.

1165
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get it to you. But what what hey?

1166
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: What the day is? Today? Twenty seven forty seven is Tuesday? Yeah, yeah,

1167
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: you know.

1168
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: My month is my month of June. I ain't really

1169
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: got nothing to do. I ain't really got no I

1170
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: took care of my overhead.

1171
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I paid man.

1172
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: June and got it out the way, so I don't

1173
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 3: really need nothing, so I got extra left over.

1174
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate that that to you. Some discourse has started

1175
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 2: this week about how this Thunder team could be even

1176
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: scarier no matter what's happening in this playoffs Thunder will

1177
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: be adding Serbian star Nakola You'll Pitch to its rotation

1178
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: next season. You'll Pitch was the number twelve pick in

1179
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NBA Draft. It picked that OKC

1180
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: got from Houston in the twenty nineteen Westbrook trade. But

1181
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: Yo Picch had a torn acl and would miss his

1182
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: entire rookie season, and that scared the way most teams

1183
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: except okay see. Before the injury, the sixth se You'll

1184
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: Pitch would viewed as a top five prospect as a

1185
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: playmaking point guard. CBS sports Mark Draft had him as

1186
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: high as number two at one point. Next season, he'll

1187
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: finally make his NBA debut. Man, okay see, got a

1188
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: lot over there, Okay Olcher. I don't know how they're

1189
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: gonna keep all them guys together.

1190
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: They're not.

1191
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: They got it because you know, hey that now, because

1192
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: you know what, Chakab can sign four two ninety four

1193
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: or you can wait five for three eighty. Jayalen Williams

1194
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: is gonna want to get paid. Chet's gonna want to

1195
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: get paid. I mean, I like this guy because now

1196
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: you got somebody that's gonna handle the ball with when

1197
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: Shade's on the bench. If he's what what they say

1198
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 2: to us, well, you know see, but uh it's gonna

1199
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: be It gets hard, man, It gets hard on Joe

1200
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 2: because when you start winning, people come and start raiding

1201
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: your henhouse. They want they want, they want your chicken

1202
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: that's been laying these golden eggs. And that's and that's

1203
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: what happens. If you see it in football all the time,

1204
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: you see what happens. Uh, eventually Philly's not gonna be

1205
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: able to keep all these guys, those great defensive players.

1206
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: Now you play Jais, you play Jalen Carter. What you're

1207
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: gonna do with Jordan Davis? Hey, what you're gonna do.

1208
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do with Cooper de John? What you're

1209
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: gonna do with brother Mitchell. What're you gonna do with theo? Yeah, okay,

1210
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: when you winning, everybody, everybody eats, So you have to

1211
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: go into the luxury tax.

1212
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: Got to take care of these guys.

1213
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: Just like if Boston would have won this year, man,

1214
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have cared about paying

1215
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 2: those dudes. Uh, they gonna break that thing up, Joe, now, y'all, yeah,

1216
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: now they y'all, But just but I think even if

1217
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: they had one, I think they break it up because

1218
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: you got to you got to think about it. You

1219
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: got for two guys making over three hundred million, you

1220
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: got think about it. You got Derrick White, and you

1221
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: got Holiday making well over one hundred million. You got

1222
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: Al Horford probably making thirty five to thirty eight million,

1223
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: and you got Prezingers. I think I think if they

1224
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: if they had a chance to win it this year,

1225
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: I think they willing to go into the luxury tax

1226
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: and pay that. It's just like, okay, see, if they

1227
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: win it this year, they gonna have to go into

1228
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: the luxury tax and they got to pay them dudes.

1229
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: But I heard the thing, and see because I'm looking

1230
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: at the Lakers. The Lakers had the same situation they

1231
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: wanted in twenty twenty and broke the whole thing up.

1232
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what that was about. I don't, right, y'all.

1233
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was about. They had they

1234
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: had a great team. I know it was in the bubble,

1235
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: but they had a great team. And if them do,

1236
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: I think you got to break it back just to

1237
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: see if you can repeat. I agree, So I think

1238
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: I think it makes you wonder like, was it something

1239
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: more to it than just basketball?

1240
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, we'll never know.

1241
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: Uh. Carmelo Anthony and PG Paul George aren't convinced that

1242
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: Jannis will ask to be traded from Milwaukee, despite the

1243
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: rumor surrounding his uncertain future with the organization. Giannis is

1244
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: that old cut era, that that old era cut? I

1245
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: think you want to stay at Milwaukee's whole career. That's

1246
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: what PG said. He ain't going nowhere. Janni's built Milwaukee.

1247
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, not that that that mattered, That matters, Not

1248
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: that matters.

1249
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: Not.

1250
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: I understand PG and Carmelo obviously very respectable, good for

1251
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: good friends of mine. But honest, he's not going back

1252
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: because he's gonna be the same thing every year.

1253
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: The man wants to win, the man wants to contend

1254
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: for another title again. No, he didn't want to. He

1255
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to lift the heavy old every single night.

1256
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Every He's for the way now than what he was

1257
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: when he won his title.

1258
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's why I don't see him going back. That's

1259
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: the problem that you're up against, is that. Guess what

1260
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: you see all the got What if Shae gets one

1261
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: this year? Tatum already got one. I mean, you're not

1262
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: worried about Steph and Lebron and Katie because they've already

1263
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: done the the you know, next couple of years they're

1264
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: gonna be on their way out.

1265
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: But what about.

1266
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: Okay, see, he ain't going nowhere at least for the

1267
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: next year or two. How do if we talked about

1268
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: this last night, Joe, let's just say they break it back.

1269
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: Dame's not playing next year. So even if he goes

1270
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: back to Milwaukee, they're not better than the Knicks. They're

1271
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: not better than the Cavaliers. They're not better than the Pacers.

1272
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: And I'm not so sure is that they can beat

1273
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: Boston with the roster that they have with just Giannis.

1274
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: So now, at best case scenario, oh if Orlando, if

1275
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: Ben Carro and from Bagner stay healthy, they're not better

1276
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: than them.

1277
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: So if best case scenario, you feel to six, Hey, look,

1278
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: I think.

1279
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: I think Giannis will always say the right things, yes,

1280
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: because he don't.

1281
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: Look, he don't want that blowback.

1282
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: Everybody go say the right thing, Joe's since they saw

1283
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: what happened to Lebron.

1284
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: Everybody goes all, y'all want to be here?

1285
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because at least Lebron played his

1286
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: contract out. See, Lebron is one of those guys. He

1287
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: never asked to be traded. We play his contract out

1288
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: and people hold him to the same standard the guys

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: that be asking for trades. Lebron is never asked to

1290
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: be traded. Play the contract out. His ton contract was

1291
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: up in Cleveland, he went to Miami. Contract was up

1292
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: in Miami. He went back to Cleveland. Contract was up

1293
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, he went to LA. So you got to

1294
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: think about it. Lebron is damn there as much time

1295
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: in LA. Has these his last stint in Cleveland, and

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Speaker 2: well with the Miami right, Yeah, Hey, love, I.

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Speaker 1: Can see young. I don't know how he gonna do it,

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Speaker 1: but I just see Yanni's moving this summer. Okay, hold Joe.

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Speaker 2: I can't see him coming going back to Milwaukee trying

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01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: to do all the heavy lifting by itself. It's gonna

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01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: be tough. It's gonna be challenging because they can't bring

1302
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: nobody in help him. I know, outside of what they

1303
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: already have. They can't bring nobody else in now and

1304
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: then Saya bet players injured, But can you imagine if

1305
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: Yannest gets traded to a team to all, I say,

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01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: the Mavericks or the Rockets, or you know, whatever the

1307
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: case may be. The word go to state gonna try

1308
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: to make a run for man. Can you imagine like

1309
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: he gonna have to still do some heavy lifting, but

1310
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Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be nothing like this.

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it ain't gonna have a whole lot of heavy

1312
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: lifted if he got step on this team. I asked you,

1313
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Speaker 1: I asked you that last night.

1314
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Speaker 3: You know where where is the scenarios where he could go,

1315
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: where the situation would be different than what it is

1316
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Speaker 3: with Milwaukee Right now.

1317
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Speaker 1: Well, you gotta break First of all, Steph is healthy.

1318
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: Dame is not. They play different types of game. Steph

1319
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: is perpetual motion.

1320
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Speaker 2: He's gonna get a lot of wide open looks because

1321
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: you gotta you, you gotta build a wall to.

1322
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Speaker 1: Keep Yanni's out the paint.

1323
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: And then when yann is kicked because you saw the

1324
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: average six and sist he's getting better as a passer.

1325
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: So the thing is, he's just gonna have to get

1326
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: a lot of teams because teams going straight up, they're

1327
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Speaker 2: only a handful of teams that could Okay, see Brooklyn,

1328
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets.

1329
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: They're really the only team to have the draft capitol.

1330
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: Houston have the draft capitol and the players, because you're

1331
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: ready that you could pack a shingoon.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1333
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: Oh the Spurs, you have to. Spurs definitely have the capitol.

1334
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: So there's only a handful of team to have draft

1335
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Speaker 2: capitol and players.

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Speaker 1: Huh, that's not fair. You can't. You can't put Wimby

1337
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: and got them together.

1338
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Speaker 2: Man, Hey, life ain't fail, partner, life ain't fail. You

1339
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: put them on the team. Boy, Listen, you're gonna be

1340
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: number ethans for show for show and what yeah, and

1341
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: what what pick?

1342
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: What pick? The Spurs got? What the picked?

1343
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: Spurs that got the two Spurs got the number two pick,

1344
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: so you get a big dime draft.

1345
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: They got plenty of the draft picks.

1346
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna be willing to part

1347
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: with obviously Stephen Castle and uh Wimby I would think

1348
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: would be, but anything else. I mean, you got Fox,

1349
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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to You're probably gonna have to get

1350
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: off Castle. You okay, okay, if you got Fox, Yeah,

1351
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: you got Fox, and I forgot Fox with there you

1352
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: got so you got Fox?

1353
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Speaker 1: Wimby Giannis, Yeah, man, you sure old Joe Wait, Darien Fox, Yeah,

1354
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: Darren Fox. Yeah, No, that's not fair.

1355
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: Because man, Waluker gonna want some stock power back, and

1356
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: they have for Castle.

1357
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Speaker 1: He's proven, you know, he just won Rookie of the Year.

1358
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Speaker 1: So they gonna they gonna want some They gonna want

1359
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Speaker 1: somebody who's gonna pack.

1360
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: A punch, and I want him. I want a proven player.

1361
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Speaker 2: I want a couple of proven player. I might take

1362
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: Vassal and there Caldon Johnson too. Yeah, and I want

1363
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: that number two pick and a couple of other picks

1364
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: and some pick spots. Hey, for y'all, that's just worth

1365
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: it because let me tell you, yeah, I think if

1366
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: he plays with some some other great talent, he will

1367
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: be more of a willing passer versus you know, I

1368
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: know he'll still be downhill, but I think he'll be

1369
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: more reluctant.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: I think he'll pass a lot more versus just driving

1372
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: in there, you know, just trying to get files and

1373
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: things of that sort. Uh.

1374
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Speaker 1: He's a cheat, cole Man, He's a cheat hole for sure. Yeah. Hey,

1375
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: I told him, man, But six yeah, six eleven? What six?

1376
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Moving like a deer out there? Hu? You ready? Then

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Speaker 1: listen the volume