1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, November eighteenth, twenty nineteen, Season 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: forty five, episode number eighty four. Welcome to another edition 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: of The Break. We are live from the s WBC 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios at the Star coming off a Cowboys win, 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys beating Detroit Lions in Detroit. They moved to a 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: record of six and four in the lead in the 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: NFC East. And we're gonna break down for you guys 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: what happened in that game yesterday. There were lots of 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: moments in that game, lots of ebbs and flows, and 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: obviously a lot of storylines that come out of that game. 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: And to me, there's really no bigger storyline than Dak Prescott. 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: So I'll start right there with you for you guys, 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: he was twenty nine to forty six sixty three completion rate, 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: completion percentage. Sorry, he was had four hundred and forty 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: four yards of passing, three touchdowns, one hundred and sixteen 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: point six quarterback rating. Man, it's pretty freaking good. Nick. 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: After the game, though, you made the comment there on 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: the sideline, did miss a couple throws? No? No, No, 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: that's not really what I was trying to say. Okay, okay, 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Well I wanted I wanted to talk about it because 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: I actually agree with you. There were a couple of 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: throws he missed, but I didn't think they were necessarily 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: a big deal. But let's talk. No, I wasn't trying 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: to I was only trying to see if this was 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: the best game he's ever played, got it? And so 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: I was like, did he Am I missing something here? 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Did he you know, seventeen in completions but they threw 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I'm like, but I mean, I know 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: that they went to beat the Lions. But I'm just 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: saying that he's doing things that are that he's kind 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: of the guy that's and I even wrote maybe he's 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: the straw that stirred this drink. So now because he's 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: starting to do things even though they're trying to take 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: away his weapons and he had a great game. Estray 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: I thought, I thought he played phenomenal. He made it 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: rain on them bros. You know everyone gets that because 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: not everyone knows his name. It's true. His name's rain 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: Dakota Prescott. I would hope you know that if you're 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan listening to this show in twenty nineteen. Man, 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: he was. He was really impressive. And it's funny. I 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: always say it like it's dumb until they come to 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: that conclusion and then it's smart. Like last week, it 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: was like, well, you want to stay balanced. We did 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: make some adjustments, we threw the ball forty sixth time 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: in the game, but you still want to try to 52 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: run and establish the run. And then after the game yesterday, 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I was like, well, why would you go away from 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: something that's working. Of course we're gonna throw the ball 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: like that's what we're gonna do, and why wouldn't Yeah, 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't you? I wish they had come 57 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: to that conclusion in the week before, But everything was 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: working for dak Yeah, Tavon Austin bailed him out. He 59 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: had ball inexplicably go through Darius Slay's hands. But them's 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: the breaks. He is playing out of his mind. If 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys had beaten the Jets, I think he'd be 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: right up there with Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson in 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: terms of MVP conversation, like it was a nationally televised 64 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: flop of a game and rightful, I mean, there's six 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: and four. I'm not and again people love to jump 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: to conclusions. I'm not saying he should win the MVP 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: because I think Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson have both 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: out played him to this point. He would be much 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: more a part of the conversation if the Cowboys resume 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: was just a little bit better and highlighted by this 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: game right here. I know the Lions aren't super impressive defensively, 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: but that's impressive no matter who you're playing, right You 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Know what's really exciting to me is in the past, 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: when we talked about Dak Prescot, we talked about him 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: needing that talented player to make him look better or 76 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: to help him out. He couldn't be just an average guy. 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: And I'm just saying the White Sievers are average or 78 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: anything like that. They're better than average at this point. 79 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I think based on what we've seen, but the fact 80 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: that Dak has been able to play like that with 81 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: so many different targets rather than him having to lean 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: on one person, which is Amari Cooper. You see him 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: just throwing the ball all to so many different guys. 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: So that's exciting to see from him, and at the 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: point that he's at in his career as a quarterback 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: as we look to move forward in the future with him. 87 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: That's actually a great point because it's not just even 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: about Amari. Basically, yesterday, he did that without his two 89 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: best offensive weapons, and I shouldn't say without, but they 90 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: didn't have statistically the best games. I'm talking about Ezekiel 91 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: Elliott and Amari Cooper. Neither one of them had great 92 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: games statistically, but they were able to find the guys 93 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: that were open. He was able to get the balls, 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: to get the ball to them, and they were able 95 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: to make place. You know, he's going to show these 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators that you want to keep playing like this, 97 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm going to keep throwing it around. And 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: of course, obviously this game coming up, you know they've 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: got the critical they got they got the best coach 100 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: in NFL history, um coaching this week and so we'll 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: see what they scheme up for him. But the thing 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: is is that he's showing that if you want to 103 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: just continue to crowd the box and stop Zeke, you know, 104 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I could make place in the red zone, though they haven't, 105 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: they haven't proven that they can do that when but 106 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: that that's the only down part about that is shortened 107 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: shortened space. Can they make throws to get that? That 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: is a really fun element. And I mean, and look, 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: you know this this wasn't like just the most complete 110 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: dominant effort. I'm sure we'll get to the defense. I 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: want to be careful not to just heap too much 112 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: praise for an eight point win against the you know, 113 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: a team that they should have beaten. But everybody wants 114 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: to knee jerk like, well, Zeke had another bad game, 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. Is Tony Poller better? And 116 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: I think it's so silly. And what Nick just said 117 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: is what really intrigues me and excites me, is like, 118 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: if defenses are going to keep playing them this way 119 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: and Dak can keep taking advantage of it to the 120 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: two four hundred yards, it's gonna stop, real stop. It 121 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: will stop. And now'll loosen up and Zeke Elliott will 122 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: be just fine. And that's sorry. You want to make 123 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: a point, but I mean, like that's balance. It's not 124 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: we ran the ball twenty five times and throw the 125 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: ball thirty times. Like that's not balanced balances. We can 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: get it done either way. Once you decide what you 127 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: want to take away, will kill you with the other thing. 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: And we know they can run the ball. We know 129 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: they can, but teams have been focusing on taking it 130 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: away and Dak is making him pay for it. He 131 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: couldn't do that earlier in his career and he clearly 132 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: can now. And again, I don't care that the Lions 133 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: are twenty eighth in the league in past defense. Four 134 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: forty four is four forty four. I mean that's not 135 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: common even in the modern age of the NFL. It's 136 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about how impressive it was what 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: they I will say about that, though, is I do 138 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: think that you look at how the passing game has gone. 139 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: They've had other games this year what he's strolling the 140 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: ball all around the yard and had some big impressive 141 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: numbers and they ended up losing. And that's where I 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: wonder if teams get to the point where they say, uh, 143 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we ought to rethink this. Maybe maybe 144 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: they look at the Cowboys and they say, we still 145 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: would rather have him throwing the ball, because when they're 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: running the ball and running it efficiently, they take way 147 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: more time off the clock. You have way fewer opportunities. 148 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: And so yes, they may have a great offensive day statistically, 149 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: but if it doesn't end up in a win, then 150 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. And that's the part why I'm a 151 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: little bit concerned about what's happening with the running game. 152 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I do think at some point they got to figure 153 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: out how to get that thing on track, because they 154 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: still have to be able to be able to I 155 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: think in order for this defensive play well, I think 156 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: they got to have time when that defense is not 157 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah. You know, the thing that is 158 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: encouraging is if you're not a very good blocker, you're 159 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: just not a good blocker, you know, like run, pass, whatever. 160 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: But the fact that they are blocking so well in 161 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: the passing game and Dak is going through all of 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: these reads, that makes me think that when they are 163 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: trying to run it is loaded boxed. It's it's not 164 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: that they're just missing blocks and they can't push people around. 165 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: Maybe strength is a part of it, you know, you 166 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: want a stronger line on third and one, third and two. 167 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: But they're doing a phenomenal job with him just standing 168 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: back there and going through these reads that it makes 169 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: me think that the road line is fine. They're just 170 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: having a harder time with these stacked boxes. I mean, 171 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: for Randall Cobb to do what he did and Gallop 172 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: and all those guys, I just think it was it 173 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: goes through the line saying this is how we're gonna 174 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, you have to throw to beat us. I 175 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: would throw this in there, and I wish, you know, 176 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: I wish I could go back and take a look 177 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: at the game on game pass before we did this show. 178 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: But just spitballing off the top of my head. One 179 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: thing I loved about this game was they executed the 180 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: basically short, easy passes that qualified as runs that me personally, 181 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: I've been dying to see. We saw the Tony Pollard 182 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: pop pass. We saw a wide receiver screen. I think 183 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: it was to MARII Cooper didn't like hit for huge yards, 184 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: But those are basically runs in my book. So that's 185 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: another that's another fifteen to thirty yards when it copped 186 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: on the little short shovel. They did two or three 187 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: of those, and they ran a screen to Ezekiel elliy 188 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: At that went for a touch night. It's that little 189 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: stuff that I think we would all agree we've been 190 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: dying to see more of. It's not in the box 191 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: score under rushing yards, but I think of it the 192 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: same way. And when you consider that, it's a much 193 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: better day in that category than what the box scores suggests. 194 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: So I think I take that into account when I 195 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: think about it. So let's look at the statistical from 196 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: a statistical standpoint, thinking about the fact that they threw 197 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: the ball forty six times in the game yesterday and 198 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: they only ran at twenty four times. Are we starting 199 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: to see a shift in how the Cowboys will play offense? 200 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Because I do think that even when they all, like 201 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I said, other points to season, the offense has has 202 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: been in my opinion, passing has been what they've done best. 203 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that I've seen this kind of discovery. 204 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: Maybe there has been, but this seems really really slant 205 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: it to the side of throwing the ball. Yeah, but 206 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: he just said it though. I mean, it's a couple 207 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: passes to Pollard, a couple of screens things like that 208 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: that are high percentage rows that you know that that 209 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: pop pass is. You know, I think that play is 210 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: going to ruin fantasy football, honestly, but hasn't happened yet. 211 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: I really believe it will. It's gonna change. You can't 212 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: just keep doing catches like that. But um, but I 213 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: just think that that's what Dave said. It was high 214 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: percentage place and they trust him and that. I thought 215 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: the most telling thing was the fourth I mean, the 216 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: in the final drive of the game. They can keep 217 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: just running in there, forced you to call all those 218 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: timeout pun it forty seconds to go whatever, and they said, no, 219 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna just let him roll out the pass. And 220 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: that's the thing, Jason Garrett. He's not a great game 221 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: manager if people think that, and they do, and when 222 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: it happens, it's, you know, high alert, oh my god it. 223 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: But when he does manage the game, well, it's never mentioned. 224 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: They managed it well. They did went for two like 225 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: they were supposed to. They got the fourteen point league 226 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: and they said, you know what, we're gonna We're gonna 227 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: kill this game right now and go and so when it. 228 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: When it works, you gotta give him credit if he's 229 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna get crucified when he does when he doesn't. Which 230 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: we don't have to get into this debate right now, 231 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: but we just talked about it because it happened the 232 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: last time they went to Detroit in twenty thirteen. The 233 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: old playing to win versus playing not to lose. This 234 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: is me. I know you feel differently, but playing not 235 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: to lose would have been running three times, punning it 236 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: and saying, Jeff Driscoll can't get that many yards in 237 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: that short amount of time. That's playing not to lose. 238 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: Playing to win is calling a high percentage pass that 239 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: lets you pick up the first down and in the 240 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: game on your terms. I thought that was fantastic. Whether 241 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: it was Kellamore, whether it was Jason Garrett, probably both. 242 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: However they came to that decision. I loved it. And 243 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: that's how you get road wins is you put yourself 244 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: you give you have the confidence to make those types 245 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: of calls. And the only reason I always argue with 246 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: you because I just think the result is the same. 247 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: You know, whether you're trying not to lose or you're 248 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: playing to win, the result is always the same there. 249 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: So it's just how aggressive do you want to be 250 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: and where is your strength? What do you feel like? 251 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: And I think the part of Dak Prescott rolling out, 252 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: being smart with the ball getting it to the tight 253 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: end is just as high percentage as them going They 254 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: weren't going to score if they would have punted. The 255 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Lions weren't going to drive and score. They don't have 256 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: the Calvin Johnson type guy to go make the play 257 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: like that. They don't. Driscoll's not going to do it. 258 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: But your past interference penalty here changes everything. Or Xavier 259 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Woods leaves the game for two plays and they give 260 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: up fifty yards back to back, which is something that 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: happened ten minutes prior. Going back to your question about 262 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: them kind of turning more into a passing game, something 263 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: that I heard. Someone asked Dak prescotting in the press 264 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: conference last night about that, and his answer was basically, well, 265 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: why are we going to steer away from something that 266 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: we see that is working? And I'm like, yes, final, 267 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: oh wow, finally last week. Yeah, but at least being 268 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: able to hear that from there, I mean, doesn't mean 269 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: that they're not doing it back there or talking about that. 270 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: But when you hear it just gives you a sense 271 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, we're not all crazy. We you guys 272 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: are kind of in the same page as us, and 273 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: you guys still see what we see. So it was 274 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: just good to hear that and listen to them have 275 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: that kind of mentality now of like, you know, if 276 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: we see that this is working, let's keep doing it 277 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: and hopefully going into next week and the rest of 278 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: the season when they go back and see how having 279 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: Tony Poler on the field, how that helped the Yes, 280 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: keep doing it. All right, We're gonna take our first 281 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: break when we come back. 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At the start, we're talking about the Cowboys 321 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: big win yesterday over the Lions. Uh they win thirty 322 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: five twenty seven. Move to six and four. Let's talk 323 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: about Ezekiel Elliott. Yesterday he had sixteen carries for forty 324 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: five yards at two point eight average um. And did 325 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: he did you have one touchdown? But he also had 326 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: that big fumble there in the early parts of the 327 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: game that the that the alliance turned into points. Are 328 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: you guys at all concerned about Ezekiel Elliott and kind 329 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: of how he's performing right now? I'm concerned anytime and 330 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: running back fumbles, I mean that that is and and 331 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: you know I made a joke about it on Twitter 332 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: yesterday is like, I don't want to talk about slow 333 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: starts for another seven days. But what choice do you 334 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: have when they do that? I mean fumble on the 335 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: second play of the game and a touchdown drive coming 336 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: right after me? What choice but you have? Do you 337 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: have but to talk about it? Um like in terms 338 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: of you know, forty five rushing yards and not not really, 339 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not not not when your quarterbacks 340 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: going for forty four. I mean that's the thing, like, 341 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: give give Dack fifty yards less and give it give 342 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: it to Zeke, you know that kind of style of 343 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: running and and balance. Zeke's got ninety five and Dak's 344 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: got three ninety four and that's balance. And everyone's excited. 345 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: But I mean, like we said earlier, as soon as 346 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: you start, they can't do anything. Like if you have 347 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot of Saints games where Dad can't throw and 348 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: Zeke can't run, Yeah, I think you have some concern, 349 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: But they the defensive coordinators are showing that their respect 350 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: for Zeke Elliott in the running game is still there. 351 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Until they have seven man boxes and still and stop him. 352 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: Then I think you started getting concerned. But I'm not 353 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm not there yet, and I don't know if this 354 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: week's going to change anything. But yeah, Jedi out there. 355 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean he'll he'll come up with some kind of 356 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: best defense in the league. Yeah, Ji, he is a Jedi. Oh, 357 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: he definitely is a Jedi. I just er and seven 358 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: linebackers and I don't know, he's definitely And I mean 359 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: we took a call about it last week. We've talked 360 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: about it plenty, like it is. Yeah, it sucks that 361 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't have more long runs. I think he's got 362 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: one run of twenty or more on the season, and 363 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: you would prefer he's more explosive. I mean, we've seen 364 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: him do it as a pro, and I mean he 365 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: did it at will in college. Obviously that was a 366 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: while ago at this point, but it's still what he 367 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: brings to the table as a workhorse, like as a 368 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: guy who can fight through that contact, take a minimum 369 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: of sixteen if not twenty five or thirty carries a 370 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: game and still be productive, be the focal point of 371 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: a Defensei's efforts and still produce I mean, yeah, forty 372 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: five rushing yards two point eight yards per carry along 373 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: of eight that's bad. But then you know, two catches 374 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: for twenty eight yards, including a seventeen yard touchdown on 375 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: a screen pass, which we all know how good he 376 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: is at that. Again, I mean all of that goes 377 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: into account, right, I just I'm not ready to be 378 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: worried about it. Sorry? Could it be? I haven't I'm 379 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: trying to remember all these plays. But could it be 380 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: maybe due to what the offensive line is doing and 381 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: what kind of holes they're being able or unable to 382 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: open up for him? I don't know. I think anytime 383 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: a running back is not getting a great deal of production, 384 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: I think that's part of it, at least he goes in. 385 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: What I don't know. What I don't know is is 386 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Zeke seeing everything the way he should? Is he hitting 387 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: the holes with the rate right kind of burst? Like 388 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: those are things that sometimes you can't really notice. You 389 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: just noticed there's not a there when he gets there. 390 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: But the question in becomes was there a hole there 391 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: preceding that? In? Was there an expectation that he should 392 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: have found that whole quicker and should have been through 393 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: it by the time it closed up? That's what which 394 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: is what he's being able to do in the past years. 395 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: It's like he'll make a play out of nothing, and 396 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're missing now. He actually there 397 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: was a couple of plays in that game where I thought, 398 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: and I think we were talking about one of them, 399 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: where I mean, he just kind of runs right into 400 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: the line and then all of a sudden he kind 401 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: of sports out for four or five yards. I thought 402 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: he did a decent job of that. No big runs. 403 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Once the second week in a row that their longest 404 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: rush is less than ten yards, and the second week 405 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: in row that the longest rush is not by running back, 406 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: because Dak was nine yards and last week Tavon was eight. 407 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: So they're not getting any kind of long runs at all, 408 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: not even decent fifteen to twenty yard runs. It's tough 409 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: to say this without doing some tape study, but I wonder, 410 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: I mean, he's such a patient runner, and maybe he's 411 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: waiting so long for a hole to develop that will 412 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: give him a longer run that it prevents him from 413 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: just getting the typical three to four or five yard run. 414 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: Like I'd like to go back and look at that, 415 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: but there is an element of that to where he 416 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, it looks like he's waiting so long to 417 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: identify where he needs to be that the play doesn't 418 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: wind up going anywhere. I mean, you know, Pollard had 419 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: a great game. I'm ecstatic about it. He would that 420 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: is a picture perfect look at how I would like 421 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: them to use Tony Pollard. He caught four balls. Two 422 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: or three of those catches were really more runs than anything. 423 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: But his touchdown was going across the formation out of 424 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: the slot. I mean he basically ran a drag from 425 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: the slot. He can do that. It's awesome. He got 426 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: a couple of chances. It's funny because you know, the 427 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: opening kick was kind of a disaster, and I mean, like, 428 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, enough of Tony Pollard as a kick returner. 429 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: And then his play in the fourth quarter on the 430 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: one that went over his head was fantastic and big 431 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: play in the game. We talked, talked to a bunch 432 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: of people in the locker room. I mean that he 433 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: played it the way you're supposed to play it, like 434 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: he lined up on the five or the ten and 435 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: it went over his head, so you think it's gonna 436 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: be a touchback. It just took an amazing bounce, like 437 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: just a hell of a play by Detroit's kicker and 438 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: then he still managed to corral it and get further 439 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: than he would have if it had been a touchback. 440 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: It was an awesome house. So I think eight total 441 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: touches for ninety eight yards and a touchdown again, and 442 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: I would bet his snap count was less than twenty five. 443 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: I like, I haven't looked at it. Yes, even less 444 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, I mean you look at just a 445 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: number of times that he actually had the ball, and 446 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about special teams. He had two carries 447 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: for twelve yards, and then he had four catches on 448 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: four targets for forty four yards and a touchdown. My 449 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: question for you guys, are you surprised the Cowboys didn't 450 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: go back to him. This all happened most that offensive 451 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: production happened at the end of the first quarter heading 452 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 1: into the second quarter, and it doesn't. I don't think 453 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: he touched the ball again the rest of the game, 454 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: where you kind of shocked that they didn't going back 455 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: to that little he had the two point conversion and 456 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: the two posion whatever quarter. I guess I was talking 457 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: about more of the offense at It's like, Okay, you 458 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: saw him get that touchdown and getting the ball and 459 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: all that and people are excited. Tony Poler gets sit 460 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: I can't even say sit Zeke down. But then you 461 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: see Zeke get the ball and then he gets moving, 462 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: then he gets a touchdown, and it's like, it made 463 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: me think of that, you know, when we wonder, okay, 464 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: what they do at tight end. It's like, okay, you 465 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: see Blake jar we're making it play. But now they 466 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: feel like maybe they need to get the ball to 467 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: Jason because he's the main guy and blah blah. So 468 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: it made me think of that, and like, I wonder 469 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: if because of his small amount of success that Tony 470 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: Poler had, do the Cowboys feel like maybe they need 471 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: to give zek the ball and the opportunity for Zeke 472 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: to make his own play. Yeah, you know, I don't 473 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: know they think like that during the game, but I 474 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: see your point. I mean, it seemed a little curious 475 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: they didn't go back to him after they saw the 476 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: success that he was having him. To me, that was 477 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: more about the matchups that he was getting, yeah, and 478 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: so why not continue to exploit those? But again, well 479 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: we're making when we're really splitting hairs because again, the 480 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: offense put up four yards, so it's kind of like 481 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: they were moving the ball, they didn't necessarily need to 482 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: go back to him. I guess, yeah, fourth straight touchdown, 483 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean fourth straight scoring possessions after the touchdown, then 484 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: they punted when zeke Bo was back in there, and 485 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: then went touchdown, touchdown, field goal, touchdown. So it's not like, yeah, 486 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. I can't sit here. 487 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: They finally give him the workload that I want. I 488 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: can't sit here and nitpick it. And that's that's kind 489 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: of my point is like Tony Pollard's good, he brings 490 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: some juice, he should be involved. That doesn't mean zeke 491 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: is a bad player needs to have his snap count 492 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: drastically reduced. I think that's the most knee jerk thing 493 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: in the entire world. But it's hard not to look 494 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: at this. I hope the coaching staff looks at this 495 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: and says, this guy needs to be a sizeable part 496 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: of the game plan. I mean sizeable meaning again eight 497 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: to fifteen touches. Whereas you know, I can go back 498 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and I can show you the snap counts, like from 499 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: the Miami game until like yesterday, you're talking five snaps 500 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: snaps or less, and that's just not good enough for 501 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: a guy with that much talent. That doesn't mean you 502 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: need to reduce Zeke's role. Was Zeke on the field 503 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: when these when they're doing these pot passes? Um, I 504 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: know that that series that he was Tony scored, he 505 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: was not on the field to that is going to 506 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: be important as well. Yeah, and I wondered if if 507 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: Zeke was there, if they don't like they don't like 508 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: uh twenty one personnel for whatever reason, they just don't 509 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: like to do it. I don't get why. But they 510 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: did do it some yesterday early in the game, and 511 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: they kind of kind of they dilly with it. They're like, 512 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: all right, we can do it once. But I'll tell 513 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: you this in the Cowboys will face to Seem in 514 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: early December Chicago. Go look at how they use Tercohen. 515 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: And that's how I would love for the Cowboys to 516 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: use Pollard. I mean, he is lining up in the 517 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: slot at wide receiver. Every once in a while he 518 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: lines up in the backfield, but they just use him. 519 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: The whole point of how they use him in the 520 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: offense is get him in matchups with linebackers. If you 521 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: can force linebackers to be covering him and he's going 522 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: down field, he's gonna win every turn every time. Try 523 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Cohen caught a touchdown like twenty yards down field last 524 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: night with a linebacker on him. I don't get what 525 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: stops them from doing that, but again, maybe maybe the 526 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: fact that it worked is kind of like, all right, 527 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: we can do this now, Like, um, forgive me. I 528 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: don't remember the game, but Pauler dropped a screen earlier 529 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: this season that likely would have scored. Was it the 530 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: Giants game, the road game? Yeah, maybe if he catches that, 531 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: then it's kind of forward momentum on getting him more 532 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: involved and now, so maybe him being able to put 533 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: this on tape gives them the confidence to keep doing it. 534 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: Because I'm not going to judge it based on the 535 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: Patriots game, because that is a whole different animal. But 536 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: if this doesn't, you know, if if he just disappears 537 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: for the next month after this game, that would be 538 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: really frustrating. I will say this, and we don't want 539 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: to get too far into this, but I think this 540 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: is the kind of week against the Patriots when they 541 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: need a guy like that. Because you look at the 542 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: history of the Patriots and how they play defense, They're 543 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: gonna try to take a your top options. What you 544 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: did last week, you're gonna probably have to do that 545 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: again because they're probably gonna figure out a way to 546 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: take a mariout of game, and they're gonna figure out 547 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: a way to take Zeke out of the game. It's 548 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: how can you be able to move the ball and 549 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: still score points when those two guys are taken out 550 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: of game? And so that's gonna be really really important. 551 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Let's take our final break. We'll come back. We're gonna 552 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: talk about this defense. That's some issue yesterday, but we'll 553 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: break all that down for you when we come right back. 554 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio already okay? So 555 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: are we gonna win? Just? Okay? Is not okay whether 556 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: it's cheerleaders or your wireless network. AT and T is 557 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: America's best wireless network. 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Song says, please come to Boston 592 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: in the springtime. I don't know about the wintertime. I'm sorry, 593 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm just making all kinds of awful references that I 594 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: have no idea what that song is. It's fine, all right, good, 595 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: all right. Let's talk about the defense yesterday. Cowboys defense. 596 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: It was a weird game for me because I looked 597 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: at if you watch the game or I'll put it 598 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: for myself. As I watched the game, and when the 599 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: game concluded, I thought, man, this defense had a bad day. However, 600 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: when you go back and you look statistically, I don't 601 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: know if it was a really bad day or fields 602 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: a situation where they got put in some really bad situations. 603 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: There were a couple times when because of special teams, 604 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: because of offense turnovers they had, the other team got 605 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: the ball in in favorable situations and the defense wasn't 606 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: able to make the stop. But you look at the 607 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: yards they gave up. I want to give up two 608 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: hundred nine yards passing, give up one hundred and twenty 609 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: one yards rushing, But that that really was about the 610 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: fact that they could stop Driscoll from running he was 611 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: I think, well, I mean Scarborough had he had fifty 612 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: five yards or three point nine average, that's not huge. 613 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: That didn't kill you. And so my point is, I 614 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: don't know if the defense was really as bad as 615 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was. Watching the game, I'm interested to 616 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: see what you guys said respective if it were in 617 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: bad And I called myself and I wanted to think 618 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: that way, I'm like, oh, they weren't that bad. But 619 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: then when you look at who was like running back, 620 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: who was playing quarterbacks, I mean, I mean that takes 621 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: in effect as to how they played. They should have 622 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: played a lot better. I mean the quarterback. Here's a guy. Yes, 623 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: he had some really nice throws down the field, and 624 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: he impressed me that way. I was like, Okay, I 625 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: didn't know you had that in you like that. But 626 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: at the same time, he's a guy with not much experience. 627 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: You could see his hesitation. He doesn't have good anticipation. 628 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: He would always kind of self doubt himself trying to 629 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: figure out what to do. The defensive line was giving 630 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: him way too much time instead of getting to him 631 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: and pressuring him. You know, when you talk about the 632 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: hot boys, I expected them to get that feeld on 633 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: fire and stop Driscoll from moving around and being able 634 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: to escape. The pocket boys didn't get a sack yesterday. Now, 635 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: now Bennett had two and Quinn had one. Are they Quinn? 636 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: Is I know for sure? I don't, Bennett said, I 637 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: remember the He's no, Michael Bennett said last week. I 638 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: remember the real hot boys. Those guys don't know what 639 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: they're talking about. Cash money forever, Yeah, Benness, Michael Bennett's 640 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: two guys, and then there's Bennett. That's your sentiment. I mean, 641 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: he's not a part of what's what this whole thing 642 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: is about. I mean, you know, we see it in 643 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: the national anthem, we see stuff. He's doing his own thing. 644 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: He's his own guy. He's here for a different reason 645 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. But when when the lights are on, 646 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: he goes and he gets it done. Now, he had 647 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: two off side penalties yesterday and that one was big. 648 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: One was very really could have been a big play. 649 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: But they do buckle down and he had a really 650 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: nice play that changed the game when he's when he 651 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: made that sack and forced him to punt, which head scratching. 652 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: Really um because fourth and twenty six. I would have 653 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: gone for it, honestly, because what they were asking to 654 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: do to get the ball back was going to be 655 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: so they could get into hell Mary mode. So what's 656 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: the difference. I understand that the odds of Cleveland, the 657 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: odds of picking up a fourth and twenty six are 658 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: not good, But you're not getting that ball back. You're 659 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: just you're probably not if you do. If you do 660 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: get Mary, it'll be, yeah, you'll have one play. I mean, 661 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't. But I 662 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: think you give yourself a better chance going for it. 663 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: That's anyway. I honestly, I think it's a that's a 664 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: good example of stats lying because the stats will tell 665 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: you that they weren't terrible. But I don't think they 666 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: played a good game. I thought Robert Quinn actually he 667 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: had a good line where he was like, we had 668 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: a bad day explosively in terms of limiting explosive plays. Yeah, 669 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve yards, that's pretty good. You've got 670 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: three sacks, two of them came, or excuse me, one 671 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: of them came, and a couple other pressures when it 672 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: really mattered. But explosive plays, I mean they had a 673 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: five play seventy five yard There were so many times 674 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: where I was like, okay, they're down for the count. 675 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: This game is now over, and then they just climbed 676 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: right back in. If they did it in the they 677 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: did in the first half where you know, they score 678 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: on the short field, I'm not going to kill all 679 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: the defense for that. They've got put in a bad position. 680 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: But then after three punts, bad return sets him up, 681 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: they go forty yards and score a touchdown to to 682 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: clawback in it before the half, and then coming out 683 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: of halftime ten plays seventy yards. I mean, they just 684 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: methodically moved it downfield. That included a thirty nine yard 685 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: pass the Hall got them down to the Dallas nine 686 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: and then gave him an opportunity score. And then I 687 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: mean the really damning one for me. And I know 688 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods was heard and Donovan Wilson had to go 689 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: out there. I get that, but you know, it's thirty 690 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: five twenty one. They score, they get the two point conversion, 691 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: you're kind of like, all right, there, we're iceing this 692 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: thing away. And then it's not just that they went 693 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: and scored. They went in five five plays, seventy five yards, 694 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: took two minutes off the clock. Just just bad performance. 695 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, you know, we talked about it 696 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: last week, like Driskolls got better athleticism than what you 697 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: would associate with a tall, white quarterback. He did, and 698 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: he burned him. And somebody said, yes last night in 699 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: the post game. I can't remember one player said he 700 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: ran a four? Four or four he ran he had 701 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: somebody somebody mentioned that to me after I gave my 702 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: Sky report. They were like, he ran a four or 703 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: five at the combine. I honestly I didn't know he 704 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: was that fast, but I knew he was more athletic 705 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: than you would associate with him running. There's some running 706 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: backs that don't run a four or five at the 707 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: combat like that is that's a really, really great time 708 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. But the point being, like he did 709 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: so many things that sort of defied a basic scouting report, 710 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Like there were so many times that the pressure just 711 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: kind of came off the edge and ran right past 712 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: him and gave him an easy lane. And honestly, I 713 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: said this during the game. I don't know if Jeff 714 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: driscoll was trying to prove something or what, but he 715 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: left about seventy five yards on the field by trying 716 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: to make throws when he had room to run, like 717 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: five or six different plays he had the first down, 718 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: he needs four yards or he needs eight yards, and 719 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: he tried to force a throw instead of just picking 720 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: it up, like he could have run for one of them, 721 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: could have got picked he Yeah, no, I mean he 722 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: could have run for one hundred and extended several more 723 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: drives if he had just run, And thankfully he didn't 724 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: for the cowboys sake, but it was there so for 725 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: from this standpoint, the explosive plays. Do you think the 726 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys missed Jeff Heath yesterday? No, offense to Jeff Heath, 727 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: but I don't. I mean, so many of them on 728 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: team that's you know, Rod Marinelli loves to keep him 729 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: in the well like that's his line. And they did 730 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: not keep Jeff Driscoll in the well at all. They 731 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: did not, I mean he broke contain. And I'm not 732 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: so much talking about the quarterback explosive plays. I'm talking 733 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: about more some of those plays down fill, some of 734 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: those passes that they were able to convert. The thirty 735 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: nine yard er, yeah, there was a twenty twenty one 736 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: yarder to a Mendola, twenty five yarder to Jones. I'm 737 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: wondering in those plays are you missing having the safety? 738 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: There's nothing I'm trying to think if there was any 739 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: play that I would make me think, oh, if Jeff 740 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: Heath was in there, that would not have happened. You know, 741 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: he's not that difference maker for starters. I don't think 742 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: of pass coverage as being like his amazing strength that 743 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: he's going to take those away. But then I'll contradict myself, 744 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: Like Jeff Driscoll through for two hundred yards that's in 745 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: the modern NFL. I will take that like you're just 746 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna give up some plays in football, Like that's 747 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: just is what it is. And so Kenny Galladay caught 748 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: one pass, Marvin Jones have four for forty three, two touchdowns. 749 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: But still like I'll take that stuff. It's the it's 750 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: the explosive runs and not being able to get to driscoll. 751 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, up until the fourth quarter, it seemed like 752 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: the pass rush either couldn't get to him or over 753 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: pursued him. That's the stuff that bothers me more than 754 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: him throwing for a few chunk plays. I mean, I 755 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: get the sense. And we've I've heard a little bit 756 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: during the game after the game social media that you know, 757 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, is it. You know they won, but 758 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: that they should have killed the Lions. I just don't agree. 759 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: Vegas doesn't agree. I mean, they did exactly what they 760 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: were supposed to do. One by eight on the line 761 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: was seven or seven and a half, that's what it was, 762 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: and they did. I mean, like the thought of that 763 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: this team, this is a team that should be competing 764 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. They're not, Like, this is not 765 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are. They're not that great of a 766 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: football team. That's why they're six and four. Can they 767 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: still get there? Yeah, they can't. They get on a 768 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: roll then get get hot. But this is I mean, 769 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: they did what they were supposed to do in this game. 770 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: And if if Stafford would have played, maybe, you know, 771 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: maybe would have been different. Maybe not. He's not going 772 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: for fifty yards a problems that we're brushing, but he 773 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: probably can throw for more in Galladay probably has more 774 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: than one catch. I just think that based off that 775 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: this is exactly what the cow did, what they're supposed 776 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: to do. If you don't like it, that's just on 777 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: the way the team is. But this is what they 778 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: were supposed to do. More on your expectations, Yeah, I 779 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: mean at this point your expectations shouldn't be that different anybody. 780 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: By Thanksgiving you should have readjusted your expectations. But I 781 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: still think the way the way it happened, though, is 782 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: what gives me pause. Like my prediction was twenty seven 783 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: to thirteen, and we said last week, like, this is 784 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: not a bad Lions team. They're not. They're not good, 785 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: but they're not. This is not the Jets, this is 786 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: not what they are. And yeah, um, but I don't know. 787 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: Twenty seven points to a backup quarterback and a guy 788 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: and a running back that they signed on Saturday. That 789 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: that gives me pause. And I mean the defense, we 790 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: thought it would be so much better. The stats say 791 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: they really didn't play a terrible game, but my eyes 792 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: told me that they didn't play a good game. Yeah, 793 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: you can't gift to anybody. That's the only way you're 794 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna get a team like that in the 795 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: game is if you just fumble in the second play 796 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: of the game, or if you give up a punt 797 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: to midfield, and you know, that doesn't mean the defense 798 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: has to let him score. You can't, you know, stop 799 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: him lead to a field goal. But yeah, it's short field, 800 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to score touchdown, you know. So 801 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: that they could have done a better job of buckling 802 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: down there, but you know, just driving down the field. 803 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: They did it when they needed to, and that's that's 804 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: the prevent style, you know, but usually it takes more 805 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: time off the clock than that. But I just think overall, 806 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a bad win. You know, 807 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: we had had a guy turned around and right on 808 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: the field and said we should be killing these guys, 809 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, not really according to who you. 810 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think so. I don't think 811 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: this team is as talented everyone thinks they are, that 812 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: they should be winning. They could have in this game, 813 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: maybe one by fourteen. But they did it. I said 814 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: right after the game. It reminded me of the road 815 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: win against the Giants. Just I mean, yeah, you did 816 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. It's not it's not an 817 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: exciting win. It's not something that you should never feel 818 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: bad about a win in the NFL. But but I don't, 819 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't. I don't feel especially different about 820 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: this team than I did on Saturday. I guess, you know. No, 821 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm encouraged that Dak can keep doing stuff like this. 822 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: That was Actually, this is my hypothetical for y'all. If 823 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: you could rearrange it, they still win. We'll even say 824 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: the margin is the same. But like Dak throws for 825 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: two seventies, Zeke runs for one hundred and they score, 826 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, twenty four. But the defense holds the Giants 827 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: down to like one hundred and seventy five yards, And 828 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: what did I said? The Giants Lions defense holds them 829 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: to one eighty and ten points. I mean, just basically 830 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: the same result, but it's more of a dominant defensive 831 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: performance than sixteen. Just kind of low. Yeah, well, okay, 832 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: they beat him twenty four sixteen. The offense is fine 833 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: but not great, and the defense really just kind of 834 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: sets the tone. Would you feel differently, would you feel better? 835 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: Maybe it also depends on how the game played out, 836 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: because I think the feelings that people have right now 837 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: about the defense wasn't necessarily about the end result as 838 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: much as it was what you saw, like they just 839 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: they weren't able like the things when you saw. There 840 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: was one drive in particular, and I remember which one 841 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: it was, it was in the second half where they 842 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: were basically just gashing the Cowboys And that's where you know, 843 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: to me, that's starting to look familiar now because there 844 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: have been several games this year where it's certain parts 845 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: of the game offenses it happened against Minnesota. Will offense 846 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: is just say we're about to run the ball and 847 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are just like getting gashed just moving the 848 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: ball down the field. It's those kind of moments that 849 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: make you say, you know, regardless of what the outcome 850 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: was at the end of the day, you know they 851 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: didn't give up a ton of rushing yards. But when 852 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: you watched it, you came away from it thinking, man, 853 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: I said to you at one point, Nick, I was like, 854 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why they're not going to run the 855 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: ball every because they're getting as much as they want 856 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: on the ground. And so that's where I still don't 857 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: know if I would feel differently if it was if 858 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: it was played the same way and the defense was 859 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: giving up the stuff they were giving up in the 860 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: way they gave it up. Well, maybe we can just driscoll. 861 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's not that great of a quarterback. If 862 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: we could just face like the best quarterback of all time, 863 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: then we can kind of figure out where they stand. Well, 864 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: he's can we do that? The question is is he 865 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna play like the greatest of all time now? Because 866 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: he may not. He hasn't been playing like that. Let's 867 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: just put it like Brady came out that morning and 868 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, the strength of our team's defense. We're 869 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: gonna lay it into that as much as we can. 870 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: You got it. I mean, the only way he's ever 871 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: been stopped is if you just get after his ass, 872 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: and you have to that, and maybe the Cowboys have 873 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: a guy on their team that is kind of pissed 874 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: off at the Patriots. That's nice, But the crazy, the 875 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: crazy part about that right now is they're winning with 876 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: the offense not doing a ton. It's the defense that's 877 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: playing out of its mind and that matches up against 878 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboy st This is gonna be an interesting game. 879 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: And just when you look at the Cowboys do have 880 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: the number one offense, they still do. I mean in 881 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: five o nine, I don't. I can't imagine that they 882 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have the number one offense pages number one defense. Right, 883 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: let's go. We got like four more days of shows 884 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: to fill. Guys. I do know this is gonna be fun, 885 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: all right to answer my sorry, answer my own question. 886 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: I know. I know defenses win championships. I know the 887 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: Pats won the Super Bowl thirteen to three. If my 888 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: quarterback can do that weekend and week out, give me 889 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: that every time. And you know the Eagles won the 890 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty one thirty three. Their defense made like 891 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: one stop when it counted. Like, I'll take my chances 892 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: that the defense can put it together just enough. But 893 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: if my offense is scoring and doing stuff like that 894 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: weekend and week out, I'll take that every the question 895 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: will be can he do that again? A great defense 896 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: and we saw it, we saw in New World, that's 897 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: what happened. Like you, it's a great defense. There are 898 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: many that believe. That's why they say defense when Chai 899 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: Championships is they believe that a great defense will stop 900 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 1: a great offense. And so well, we'll see. I think 901 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions around that, but we're gonna 902 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: find out a lot about that this weekend. What a tease. 903 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, guys. Jonas. 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