WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Enough To Draft BPA?

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<v Speaker 1>The following He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star in Frisco, blowing the sascot Ta and

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<v Speaker 1>now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>and Kyle Yeoman's It is a Talking Cowboys Tuesday here

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<v Speaker 1>from the s WBC studios at the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Again an offseason edition of your favorite show on Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com. We are raring to go. We have

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<v Speaker 1>an entire hour in front of us and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about everything under the sun that happens to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the Dallas CCT Baby t Yeah, no sun

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<v Speaker 1>side today in Dallas, but that's okay. We're still going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. Yes, sir, when do we go

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<v Speaker 1>get out pitches of you and blue bonnets? Its blue

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<v Speaker 1>bonnets season? Man? You know, are you laying in the

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<v Speaker 1>blue butnets with both mands under the little cards angles crossed?

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get a rock pe island post. That is

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<v Speaker 1>like a thing I like to do in springtime. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to lay in the bonnet. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>see Rob Pie laying down, hands under the chin angles,

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<v Speaker 1>cross them they I'll tell you. Can we we have

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<v Speaker 1>house picture, we have talking cowboys. Fans out there that

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<v Speaker 1>are proficient with photoshot. Can. I want as many renditions

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<v Speaker 1>of imagery as possible, now at quit as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I want Rob Philip's face plastered all over somebody sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in blue bonnets. It's a great has to be. I

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<v Speaker 1>want as many of them as possible. Has to be

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Pi on Rob Pie Island laying in a whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Rob Pe Island in a blue yes season,

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<v Speaker 1>what what did we start here? What did you start here?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not watching. He would love doing that, of course

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<v Speaker 1>he was. Internet is undefeated, by the way, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward. I was gonna say, let's get him a

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<v Speaker 1>clean shot. Just spelling your camera real quick there Rob

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<v Speaker 1>with Yeah, there he goes. He's like he's taking a down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing everything you guys, can you finish right here?

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<v Speaker 1>A job blue bonnet? Oh nice? That the rails right away? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was good. Get joke. By the way, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out a friend of the show Jerry Smith

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<v Speaker 1>was out at Kroger last night and I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't say that at a grocery store last night, and

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<v Speaker 1>he stopped me and he goes, hey, like, we love

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<v Speaker 1>I love your show. He was a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Cowboys. He's been like a day one listener, even

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<v Speaker 1>before we were on the show. When when when it

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<v Speaker 1>was Bill and Mickey and you and everybody involved, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said he loves the show, wanted us to pass

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<v Speaker 1>it along, and real nice guy, glad he took the

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<v Speaker 1>time to say hi. So I thought i'd give him

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<v Speaker 1>a shout. Was that a subtle brack right there? The

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<v Speaker 1>little flex flex? I mean they recognize, they recognize you, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually recognized Lorena, who's by the way, it's her

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth birthday to day, Well, happy birthday, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he was like, yeah, it's your birthday, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she's the real celebrity. Honestly, I mean, obviously no

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<v Speaker 1>flex on my side, but because your lady now, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was subtle, subtle. He's so deflecting right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see He's like he's definitely playing pongo And

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<v Speaker 1>I got a birthday shout out? In there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that Happy birthday. Lorena points. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had a fun run in with him yesterday right AfterAll Chris. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got turned my hip to give him too, because

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<v Speaker 1>that was a double women he wanted to work in

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<v Speaker 1>the show and there there you go. Yeah, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that it was her birthday. The birthday song from

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<v Speaker 1>Chris in the background. That's awesome. Is so much trouble

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<v Speaker 1>like so glowing back. All right, let's talk Cowboys. Since

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<v Speaker 1>that is the name of the podcast. We will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Dallas Cowboys as something we got an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's two weeks of the draft. We got

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<v Speaker 1>the time to talk. Few weeks till the draft. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk plenty of draft. We're gonna talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>have the Cowboys done to this point. It's a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of set up their draft strategy. But rob news and notes.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a fullback on the roster again, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>give us some news and notes. What happened back? I

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<v Speaker 1>told you they might not be done and I told you,

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<v Speaker 1>I told you. Ryan Nall has joined the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>one year contract. Ryan no veteran running back. He was

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<v Speaker 1>listed as a running back with the Bears. The Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>view him as a fullback and probably most importantly, a

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<v Speaker 1>special teams guy. Joined the ninety man roster and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and give bones Fossil a core special

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<v Speaker 1>teams guy to compete for a roster spot. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't use a lot of fullback. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>used the macpackage with Connor McGovern a little bit last season.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think by and Lars this was probably a

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<v Speaker 1>special team signing. Yeah, because they lost a special teamer

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<v Speaker 1>in Malik Turner, another news and note boom before Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>What you got talk about him? Liked him? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I mean, I mean touchdowns? Did he have three? Yeah? Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean special teams contributions of course. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>he also came in there and he was a valuable

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<v Speaker 1>asset at receiver. Regardless of the garbage time, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it, the game, it doesn't matter. He

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<v Speaker 1>still has to go out there, run routes and catch

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<v Speaker 1>balls over professionals. Right, I mean, so, I mean you let,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you allow and and I obviously

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<v Speaker 1>stood on the mountain top as soon as they signed him,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, that's a heck of a signing, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>snuck him. They snuck him because he's he's he's a

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<v Speaker 1>he's an asset offensively, he as you, gives you some

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<v Speaker 1>depth offensively that you can actually depend on. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>a core special teamer like core, not just uh just

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<v Speaker 1>every so often contributor, Like, no, that's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>we need him on the field, Like where the heck

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<v Speaker 1>is hey at? You know what impact is he gonna have?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you allow him to freaking walk off? Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the question is priority. You know, why why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>this guy get prioritized? And I think you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone in Cowboy Nation right now, the bigger question

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<v Speaker 1>is like what do we do it? If they want

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<v Speaker 1>to know? Because when you let Amari Cooper, uh, Cedric

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson and now I'm Alik Turner with and just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Malik and said, as far as on the special

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<v Speaker 1>team side of it, you come back to the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that is null. Obviously, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>missing pieces right now, and no one feels comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>the direction this thing is going. So something major has

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<v Speaker 1>to be getting ready to go down. I mean major,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what I don't that have to be to consider

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<v Speaker 1>it on the Richter scale of being made Ricky of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year has to be Ricky of the Year. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Something. Something has to be going down. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean because to your point, you know, you just lost

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<v Speaker 1>two receivers. Both of them are huge contributors on special

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<v Speaker 1>teams and let's not even talk about how they fill

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<v Speaker 1>out your depth on you at the receiver position. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know obviously some of the other things that have

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<v Speaker 1>transpired in this offseason, but you know, those are these

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<v Speaker 1>three receivers gone, three receivers gone, two of them, which

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, like I said, core special teamers. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to feel these voys? I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, you're rolling the dice and you're hoping right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're depending on your scout in the department and

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<v Speaker 1>all those guys that get paid to do this watch film.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it right, those guys have a job to

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<v Speaker 1>do and they do it well. However, it's still a

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<v Speaker 1>question mark as you're going into the draft and some

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys that we're letting go a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, Malie Turner type of guys like those

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<v Speaker 1>are easier guys to sign and secure, Like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>let those guys go because they're not going to cost

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot of money. You can rely on them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very dependable, right, they're contributors. Why would you let

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<v Speaker 1>those guys go to somebody that you're probably gonna face

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<v Speaker 1>down the road like San Francisco, Like you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>let those guys go. It was a one year deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the forty nine ers. Was there money on that

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<v Speaker 1>at all announced? Yet? I didn't see money on it either.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was just looking up his stats, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked a lot about how efficient Cedric Wilson was

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<v Speaker 1>for this team the last few years. Ye. Pretty efficient

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<v Speaker 1>season for Malik Turner when you look at he played

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<v Speaker 1>in fourteen games last year. He played only one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty six snaps on offense, and he had he

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<v Speaker 1>had twelve catches one hundred forty nine yards, And he

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<v Speaker 1>said three touchdowns plus core special teams guy. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's um touchdowns is hurt? Yeah? Pretty good? Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty efficient? Um. You know, they drafted Simi Phohoko, they

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<v Speaker 1>spent a draft pick invested in him, and so your

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<v Speaker 1>hope is that he takes a step forward. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think I keep saying this, I mean I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty confident that they can draft a guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>first whatever rounds, three rounds, four rounds and get a

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<v Speaker 1>guy and develop him, and he can he can be

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate contributor. And I think something that stands out

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. Yes, we are going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>Simi Phohoko here in second Isaiah, we may want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep drinking that water bottle. Uh talking about the efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>and touchdowns in the back end of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was targeted sixteen times, he started sixteen times, and

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<v Speaker 1>eight of those resulted in first downs. So he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>catch four passes, and he's still two thirds of his

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<v Speaker 1>his grabs came for the first down or went to

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<v Speaker 1>at least ten yards. That's something to know. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a reliable guy late in the game or even in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the game if he really needed him

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<v Speaker 1>to to throw him the football, and he didn't cost

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot, and he was what he was your

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<v Speaker 1>number six, right, he was your number six receiver. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe argue that he was ahead of Noah Brown by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year. You could argue that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. He's five or six either way,

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<v Speaker 1>and he still had some efficiency to his game. Just look, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>is the riding on the wall that this is Simi

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<v Speaker 1>phohoko time. Though. Let's let's let's pour out a little

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<v Speaker 1>liquor right now for Malie Turner, play a little taps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all a wit. I mean, we've got to get

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<v Speaker 1>this ship moving and in the way that everybody's ship moving. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to get it moving. That's a nautical because

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<v Speaker 1>right now it seems like sabotage offseason, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>really does. What are we what are we trying to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we building this thing towards the Los Angeles Rams

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<v Speaker 1>way of just come in and sign and do it

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<v Speaker 1>the way you want to spend all the money you want.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what we're doing this offseason. There are guys

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't prioritize. He was the sixth receiver. You

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<v Speaker 1>drafted semi phoco pretty high last year. You gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>some bang for that. Buck can play that pick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna give him an opportunity to go earn it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not guaranteed, just like I don't think James Washington

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<v Speaker 1>spot in the rotation is guaranteed. I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be honest team. But he's got to go earn it

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<v Speaker 1>because I fully expect they're going to draft a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to compete, and Michael Gallop will be back

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<v Speaker 1>within the first month of the season, let's say regular season. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>will he be Michael Gallop right away? That's a question mark,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean that's a serious injury. We're talking about Semifhoco.

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<v Speaker 1>How much confidence one through ten to be that third guy,

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<v Speaker 1>to be a guy who could come in and give

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<v Speaker 1>you significant snaps late in the game. How much confidence

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<v Speaker 1>do you have in him moving into this season? Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you I don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in him. I didn't get an opportunity to see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of him in game action. Um is he

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<v Speaker 1>What type of receiver is he? Kenny Block? Uh? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he a masterful route runner? You know? What is? What

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<v Speaker 1>is he? What is he like after the catch? All

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go on is what he did at Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing in his rookie year is telling me that he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to fill those shoes. And that's why I think

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's kind of standing back, like, what the heck is this? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we know Noah Brown can block. We know

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<v Speaker 1>he could catch. He may not be the your best

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<v Speaker 1>yak receiver that you have, but still he still fits

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<v Speaker 1>the bill. There. You have Dalton Schultz in the mold

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<v Speaker 1>as well Fold as well as somebody you could throw

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<v Speaker 1>the football to a little bit. But nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that. They don't want to hear those names. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear now when they've had the weaponry that

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<v Speaker 1>they got in the past, and they've been rumored to

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<v Speaker 1>be at least poking around on a couple veterans who

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<v Speaker 1>went to other teams, or Brandon Cook stayed where he's

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<v Speaker 1>at Houston right, yes, and the Monte Parker wind up

0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in New England they were rumored to kind of be.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's obvious that they're looking. They're looking. They realize

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<v Speaker 1>you don't just trade Amari Cooper and let Cedric Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>go and draft a receiver and signed James Washson and

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<v Speaker 1>say we're good. Especially with Michael Gallup situation. They know

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<v Speaker 1>they've got to get depth there. But the questions are

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<v Speaker 1>well founded, man, because it's that is a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>replace it. Yeah, and my questions they were semi for

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<v Speaker 1>whole Koll obviously, but there was a lot of game

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<v Speaker 1>film out there. We saw a lot in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he suited up for one, maybe two games.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, he suited up for five games, most of

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<v Speaker 1>it was on special teams. He didn't register a catch. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>got you, all right? And which is fine? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Which is fine, And that's all I would really expect

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<v Speaker 1>out of him in this first year. However, what impact

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<v Speaker 1>are you having on special teams? Right? Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>playing on special teams? Are you just out there because

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, man, we spend money on you when we

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<v Speaker 1>got to find somewhere for you to go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>actually gonna be an impact guy on special teams? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be a cover guy that has actually

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<v Speaker 1>inside and said about outside containment guy? Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on a kick return as an actual returner? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your impact on teams instead of just being

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's getting thrown in there because we put

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<v Speaker 1>money on you. Also, what impact are you having offensively

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<v Speaker 1>as a rookie drafted in his position? Okay, maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>not offensive contributor, but you have you damn sure better

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<v Speaker 1>be a special team's contributor and somebody that everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>rely on. And I don't. I didn't see that in camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that in his snaps during the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why my output on him, my outlook on

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<v Speaker 1>him is low. Unless some things change this off season.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always a whole off season for things to change,

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<v Speaker 1>for your mentality, for you to watch film, for you

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<v Speaker 1>to get coached, all those kind of things. He can

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<v Speaker 1>come back a totally different player, but what I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen of him to date does not give me the

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<v Speaker 1>boat of confidence that he is going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>impact player for this team in any capacity. Especially the

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<v Speaker 1>type of receiver that he is. He doesn't fit this

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<v Speaker 1>scheme how fit. He's big, he's heavy, he doesn't run

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<v Speaker 1>very precise routes. From the things that I've seen, he's

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<v Speaker 1>slow out of his break. He's not a guy. As

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<v Speaker 1>we're going towards Kellen Moore's system where anybody can play anywhere,

0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what we're going to plug and play guys, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has to be quick, right, no one, No one

0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.120
<v Speaker 1>just ginormous receiver route there. Everybody has to be quick.

0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's precise route runners, and everybody can catch the dog

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<v Speaker 1>on ball and get vertical, not necessarily looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of burners. Right, He's a juggernaut type of doo.

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<v Speaker 1>If you let him get off the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna build speed. He can beat you down the

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<v Speaker 1>field that way. That's what he did in Stafford. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he did in Stafford. But that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>this offense calls for you, right, This offense calls for

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<v Speaker 1>you better be able to get off the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>You better run him five to seven yard route, catch

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and then split a defender and try to

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<v Speaker 1>get a first down. Because he has the straight line speed. Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he has the four four three that he ran of

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<v Speaker 1>course for the combine last year, and then he turned

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<v Speaker 1>around then he didn't have the best ten yards split.

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<v Speaker 1>He was probably middle of the pack. But he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good route runner either. So when he has to

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<v Speaker 1>change direction and he has to kind of get going,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not there. He's not that instinct. Yeah, offense, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I said juggernaut, Right, he's a juggernaut guy.

0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.920
<v Speaker 1>He has to build momentum. Right, He's a bigger, heavier guy.

0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.960
<v Speaker 1>He runs heavy. When you watch him, at least for

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<v Speaker 1>this past year, he runs heavy. That's the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out of me. I mean, we were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>out there watching the first OTA I believe it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, he's he's he's heavy. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>just runs heavy. Everything just looks like do do do do?

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<v Speaker 1>And it just didn't get out of his breaks. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when you watch him on special teams back then

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<v Speaker 1>in OTAs in camp, he didn't seem like he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have it be an impact guy on those states.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't seem like he was a guy who understood

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<v Speaker 1>what his role was on that team at that particular time,

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<v Speaker 1>who was who was determined and adamant about coming in

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<v Speaker 1>there saying all right, I'm not gonna I'm not touching

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<v Speaker 1>the field on offense, but I'm damn sure gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>an impact. Especially I didn't feel that energy from him,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that changes. Yeah, Isaiah just politically correctly buried

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<v Speaker 1>Semi Fihoko. He's done that throughout the last two years.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? Because of a juggernaut and

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<v Speaker 1>then he goes through through So you talk about you

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<v Speaker 1>said two things, right, you said he has four he

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<v Speaker 1>has four or four or three straight line speed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but his ten yard splint wasn't great, right, So what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? That means that your first team yards

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of slow takes. If I know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>as a defensive back, if I know that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>heavier guy and that has a good straight line speed,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not letting you off the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no clean release, yea. Yeah. And my whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>is he's not guaranteed anything. I mean, if he can,

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<v Speaker 1>if he can come out and earn a spot, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he can pick up the nine snaps a game

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<v Speaker 1>that that maligue Turner played, and but you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a If he can't play special teams, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a hard thing to do because you got

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do that at the back. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how Noel Proud stayed here for like twelve years what

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<v Speaker 1>feels like twelve years, you know. But I think will

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<v Speaker 1>we feel better about this if they draft a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, second round, yes, third round, no, No,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not where their draft picks need to go

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what we say it last week, right,

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<v Speaker 1>their draft picks need to go towards off as a line,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you can't block the run. If you can't

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<v Speaker 1>block the runnings game and if you can't protect deck,

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<v Speaker 1>then nothing matters anyway. They need both. I think without question,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the top most two glaring needs that they

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<v Speaker 1>have going in And that brings me to the question

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<v Speaker 1>that was on the rundown today anyways, was the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that have the Cowboys done enough to allow them to

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<v Speaker 1>take best player available? The last two drafts, they've looked

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<v Speaker 1>at their board the way that it has fallen, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've said, we can take the best player on our board.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty it was Ceedee Lamb. Twenty twenty one it

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<v Speaker 1>was Michael Parsons, which one of those two guys would

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<v Speaker 1>have been taken if they didn't have those needs already

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<v Speaker 1>semi covered on the back end. I don't get that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling this year they don't have the same liberty that

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<v Speaker 1>they've had the last two years because there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many holes. And Rob said it himself a second ago,

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<v Speaker 1>was they have other things that they need. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>have that BPA. It's gonna be a BPA best player

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<v Speaker 1>available in the area of need. And I mean at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, that's the offensive line, right Yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 1>especially at twenty four I mean, like, like we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>last week, corner was a position last year they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really address other than resigning Jordan Lewis, so you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of felt like they needed to go do that early.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always a position. I just feel like this year

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe they disagree because they haven't been that active

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<v Speaker 1>other than they have resigned a bunch of their guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever resigned like a dozen of their own guys, which

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<v Speaker 1>is important, but maybe they feel like they're they're covered

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<v Speaker 1>more than it seems like on the outside, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can look at receiver, you can look at obviously, guard,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end, edge, pass rusher, tight end, linebacker. You can

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<v Speaker 1>go a lot of different directions and say, if they

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<v Speaker 1>take a guy in the first few rounds at this position, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a need. You know, that's a need. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. They don't seem as covered going in as

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they have in past years. And the

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<v Speaker 1>weird part about it is when you look at those

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<v Speaker 1>those two drafts that you're talking about, the stars had

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<v Speaker 1>to align for you to get Ceedee Lamb and Michael Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you take time Machine back last year, this

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<v Speaker 1>time we're not talking about Micah the guy that literally

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<v Speaker 1>failed to you, you trade it out of the spot

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<v Speaker 1>with your with your enemies to then come back and

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<v Speaker 1>get him later and he ends up being Defensive Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year. So many things like that can happen

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<v Speaker 1>this year as well. And I think that's what Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>was saying. You know, if I have a CD Lamb

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<v Speaker 1>fall to me or Michael Parsons fall to me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who are those guys in this draft? That's the really

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<v Speaker 1>confusing part. And that's what's so masterful about this magazine

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<v Speaker 1>that you wrote, is how the hell can anybody look

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<v Speaker 1>at this draft one through thirty two and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna fall like this Because there's so many of

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<v Speaker 1>these players that are enigmatic, they're anomaly. They may have

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the body type and all those things, and you're basing

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<v Speaker 1>projecting based off of their future. But who is your

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<v Speaker 1>penic sewel? Who is you know? Who are those guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are just can't miss guys at the top ten?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have that, and and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>probably five guys, and those five are gonna go in

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<v Speaker 1>the top seven picks because even they're not consensus. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like five guys up there that are like they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be top five picks. But even then it's it's still

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<v Speaker 1>wide open. And it's not a quarterback draft either. That's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what throws a lot in where you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get five guys taking the first twelve picks at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>That pushed down a lot of position. If you're lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>you have three or four if you're lucky. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>have three quarterbacks in this in this draft that they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. To me, don't even qualify for the first

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<v Speaker 1>twenty picks, you know, and there's gonna be a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna jump out the cake and do that. Anyway. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that this is Tony Mandridge Troy Aikman

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<v Speaker 1>kind of drafted and you're gonna have a bona fide

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<v Speaker 1>bust and at the top five. But I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>how do these guys drafted? And if you're the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking in your cupboard and saying, like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we need? I know we're from the outside looking in.

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<v Speaker 1>We think they need everything, but they have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of how they're gonna play next year. You still have

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<v Speaker 1>Kna McGovern, you still have tarn Steell. Those may not

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<v Speaker 1>be names that you you want to hear, but those

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.159
<v Speaker 1>are your guys. Now, all right, we're gonna say offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we need. But what are we still in

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the hybrid tweener guy or we're going guard center? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we saying monified we need a left tackle because that's

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<v Speaker 1>another position? Yeah, we are. We need bonafide a left guard.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how we're gonna shore up this position. Or

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<v Speaker 1>as everybody work, when we're thinking one direction the front

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>office is and we are going to get a stud

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of our defensive line or a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so much to be answered, and the moves

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that they're not making is really what's confusing you the

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<v Speaker 1>most because you're like, you have nobody in your wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver room, nobody. Is this a trade down draft for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys? Yes, unless they see a guy that they know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if Dan Quinn Mike McCarthy say, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that we have to have, We've identified and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to have him, it may be a trade up draft.

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<v Speaker 1>The last last time they did something like that was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen with Travis Frederick. They were picking twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four Sharif Floyd was a guy that they were connected,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, traded down, got an extra third, got Terrence

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<v Speaker 1>Williams in the third round, and took Travis Frederick at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one. And I think it was in part because

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<v Speaker 1>they thought they could get him there. But maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a situation. We got a mailback question about that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you feel like we can get our guy, or

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<v Speaker 1>there's a group of clump of prospects that we feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about getting any of them at whatever pick you

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<v Speaker 1>trade down to, that's an option. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>deeper draft because there's more prospects this year, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more likely to trade down than it is

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<v Speaker 1>to trade up. But HECKMA brings up a good point

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<v Speaker 1>because they're doing their their research. They're bringing in these

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<v Speaker 1>top guys. Jordan Davis should not be there at twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four defensive tackle, but he was brought in. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty visit guy who's who was in the in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with a Drake London wide receiver out of USC.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not necessarily a guy that should be there at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four either. They're doing these this research. Charles Cross,

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle from Mississippi State. A lot of people think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a top ten lock. He was here, well, Cede

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb was the top ten lock as well. They talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him at the combine for fifteen minutes, didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>him on a virtual visit, didn't have he was not

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<v Speaker 1>even in part of their mock drafts leading up. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to always be ready for those things, I guess, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact is that they used three to five

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<v Speaker 1>visits out of these thirty visits on guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>obviously going to be to reach or I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as you can say, no matter no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. And I said it last podcast that he

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<v Speaker 1>has to come in and be ready to play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna trade out, if you're gonna trade down,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be for a guy that can play immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no developmental situation in Dallas. You get picked first,

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing. If you're trading down, you've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>confident that there are five guys there, then Josh want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. Josh Ball was like a fourth round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a fourth round pick. Let's not get carried away.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Begottish played as a fourth round pick. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>the exception, not the rule. He was a starter halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through his rookie years. But that's a great point. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's still I mean, you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>options there, you just not calling them out. Josh Baul

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, kind of like cal Heckmo was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about guys that are in the building. Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Balls your swinging tackle right now, right this second, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Ball is probably your swing tackle. I haven't seen him

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, so I can't speak to but he barely

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<v Speaker 1>put on pads camp and got hurt. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we need to go to Yeah, I'm gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>those of you not in the thew area. That's impressive, man, Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>man worked hard on it. I'm not surprised, but it's impressive. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're not surprised. Hey, you actually did work

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<v Speaker 1>one time. Thanks. I mean, you know you're filling the

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<v Speaker 1>broadest role, which ain't easy. I mean talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Cooper's not here you. I mean, that's I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's not a former scout. Looks great. You did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job, Thanks man, you have a scout sigh.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks man. I've had a lot of great input and

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<v Speaker 1>learning from from people around the building. So what's your question, Rob?

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<v Speaker 1>You teased it. We're talking about we're talking Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to are you over the discussion from a

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<v Speaker 1>pre break about goodness, we're talking guard, we're talking receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I'm crossing over from the Draft Show

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you guys have discussed this, But like,

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<v Speaker 1>which is deeper? Which I mean, is there one of

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<v Speaker 1>those two spots where you feel like we guard specifically? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like we can't wait past the second round? Maybe offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot wait if you don't get an offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>in the first, maybe the second. If you get lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a starter in the second. You're not getting a

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<v Speaker 1>plug in play offensive lineman outside of pick fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>you and you may even have to get lucky. I

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<v Speaker 1>pick fifty six if you're going to draft a starter,

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<v Speaker 1>plug in play, which is what we've talked about on

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<v Speaker 1>this show, what we talked about on the Draft Show,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're drafting a plug in play guy who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and start as a left guard or

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<v Speaker 1>a center as a rookie, you gotta get him in

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<v Speaker 1>the top forty five picks. If you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lock wide receiver, you can get a plug in

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<v Speaker 1>play wide receiver all the way to the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the eighty eight range you'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>guy there that you like. I think there's guys that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys like at fifty or at eighty eight. David

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<v Speaker 1>Bell out of Perdue a technician route runner. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit slow. He would probably be up in the

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<v Speaker 1>mix if he wasn't necessarily late. And let me find

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<v Speaker 1>his numbers. He's both had him in our mock drafting

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<v Speaker 1>we did Friday, Yeah we did, and that was not

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<v Speaker 1>planned by any means. But I mean he ran a

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<v Speaker 1>four or six five forty, which is really low for

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver. But he runs great routes on his film.

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<v Speaker 1>He has good hands, he can catch in traffic, he

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<v Speaker 1>does a lot of those things. His numbers are going

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<v Speaker 1>to knock his stock a little bit. If he's there

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty eight, he's most likely going to be the selection.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you can look at offensive line in

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<v Speaker 1>the first maybe the second round. Wide receivers open all

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<v Speaker 1>three rounds, maybe even into the fourth. If you really

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<v Speaker 1>see a guy fall maybe an injury issue there, he

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<v Speaker 1>could fall to the fourth and he still might be

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<v Speaker 1>your third wide receiver because you're not necessarily looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a number one, even though a number one would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to go get a guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round, do it. If you fall in love with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, don't waste your pick sitting there on an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman that you're not in love with. Go get

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<v Speaker 1>the guy you you think will be a high, high caliber,

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<v Speaker 1>high quality player. However, you can get starters later in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. And the name I keep here is Green.

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<v Speaker 1>From from me, Kenyon Green, Yeah, Kenyon Green. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other some of the other guys may be Linderbaum

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<v Speaker 1>who's a center guard type as well. But from from

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<v Speaker 1>those guys that you are listening, even you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>cross that can't miss from twenty four? Are you saying

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<v Speaker 1>that we have a guy specifically that if based off

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<v Speaker 1>of your draft board or maybe what the front office

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<v Speaker 1>is thinking, that this is our guy twenty four and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not moving from this. I think there's three names there.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is a hope, and that's Tyler Linderbaum.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no smoke where Tyler Linderbaum could be a pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not heard a single thing from the front office.

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<v Speaker 1>There hasn't anything here. Yeah, which might be a right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Linderbaum would potentially be. He would be the camp Miss

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<v Speaker 1>guy out of that group of guys at twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically because I don't really know if Charles Cross is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there at twenty four. He play one position, yes, center,

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and he does it very well, does it exceptionally well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Jason Kelsey two point zero. He's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>good center, little undersize, but he's gonna be fantastic for

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>years to come. Ken Yon Green and Zion Johnson are

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<v Speaker 1>those other two names. Green out of Texas A and

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>m Zion Johnson out of Boston College. But along with

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Linderbaum, those are the three names that are up

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the draft board because of their

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<v Speaker 1>their fit in terms of the twenty to thirty range,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course they're fit with the Cowboys where they

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<v Speaker 1>need a guy on the offensive line. I think all

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<v Speaker 1>three of them are starters. I think all three of

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<v Speaker 1>them are capable to come in and be better than

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<v Speaker 1>what the Cowboys had a year ago at the left

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<v Speaker 1>guard or center spots, depending on where they're selected. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily think you can find that later on. I'm

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>just going just real quick. I just was going through

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys history this century drafting guard to find a

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<v Speaker 1>plug in play guy to take your to borrow your phrase,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it has to be in the first two rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean it's been Zack Martin in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good pick. Huh. Yeah, it worked out pretty good.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean Connor Williams stepped in right away in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen second round pick. And you can go beyond that, man,

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go all the way back. I think to

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two with with with Andre Garad. You

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>know that one worked that pretty well too, huh. Guys

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like Doug Free stepped in played fourth round, but it

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it wasn't right away. So at that position when

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>they've hit on guys, it's been in the first whatever.

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, sixty picks. Does that make you feel better

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>about the situation or no, no, it doesn't. And the

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>reason it doesn't, No, it doesn't. And to think about it,

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Linda Baum, I'm told on him, you know, because of

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>what we had from Beyondish And I know that everybody

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden is taking a pass on Beyotish.

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>But when you invest that kind of time in developing

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy and you he gets to the point where hey,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>he's actually he's turning into something. He's got a full

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>more you know, four years more of lifting, weights, nutrition,

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>all those things under this belt. Can he be what

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>we need him to be? He came out of college,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>You were high on him. He has all of the

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>same accolades as the other guys. You're saying, is it

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can't miss prospect go to guard, because your guard is

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be the guy that's going to be the

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>driving force of your offensive line. We have that with

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Martin on the other side, but we we've just been

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>lacking in that area. If that's a if that's a

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>we need this, we gotta have it. This is where

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>we are at twenty four, twenty four pick twenty four

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>are if we can't get it in the second round,

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that's that's my only point. Is it more important? I

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is pertaining to a center position. Is

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it more important to plug your holes with draft picks

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>or is it more important to upgrade? Yeah, that's the

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>question that you're having to ask with these two positions.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I think you need to play your holes. Yeah,

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>because I've been asked that question specifically because I am.

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm very high on Tyler Linderbaum. He's my number nine

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>player in the draft. If he's there at twenty four,

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>he's best player available for me. However, somebody has asked

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>me the question previously, and they're saying, would you rather

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.959
<v Speaker 1>have Tyler Biottish playing as a starter? Would you ever

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>rather have Connor McGovern playing as a starter, Because at

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the moment, unless you get back up in the top

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>forty five picks and use your second round pick to

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>go up and get somebody that you like that falls

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe one of these names that we're talking about. Unless

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you do something like that, that's the decision you're making.

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Who are you replacing. You're replacing Connor McGovern at left

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 1>guard or Tyler Biattash at center. And honestly, I'm looking

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>at Connor McGovern as that guy, as the guy who's

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>not going to be the better player out of those two,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I would feel much more comfortable with Tyler Biottish having

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to be a starter in twenty twenty two rather than

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>having Connor be governed in that regard. I agree, then

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Green is your guy than Green or Green is my guy,

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and Zion Johnson's who I think will be the guy.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 1>If I had to put a guest and I put

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>this out on my mock draft on Dallas Cowboys dot com,

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>if I put a guy there, it would be Zion Johnson.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>It would be that would be who the pick would be.

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Right now, any teams you worry about jumping you and

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>grabbing either guy in the early twenties, late teens, No,

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.439
<v Speaker 1>because I think if somebody's gonna jump in this draft,

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna go get a quarterback that they like, because

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>they mean, I mean, just mean picking in front of

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty four oh picking in general, not trading enough. I

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 1>think the Eagles could maybe snag them. I think the

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals need an interior offensive lineman. If they go and

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>get that, they need all offensive lineman. If we're being real,

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>they could grab the tackle. They could draft a guard,

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a center. So I think an offensive lineman will probably

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>be off the board at twenty three, which could be

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>one of those names. I think the Steelers will probably

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>go with a maybe a quarterback at that point. Eagles, Chargers, Saints, Cardinals.

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Those are really the teams up at the top that

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think could take those guys that we're talking about

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>with Zion Johnson and Linderbaum and Kenyon Green. Those are

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the areas of worry that I have because you know,

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Hellman's big thing is he wants a receiver at twenty four.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>He always I mean, it's more are fun, it's more fun.

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 1>It is more fun position. And it mainly though because

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the quality of player, the chance you could get a

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>just a better player that plays wide receiver. There my

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>my issue, and that's why I asked about down the line,

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>like he's her. That's a that's a need. Offensive line

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.439
<v Speaker 1>is a big, big need. So how long can you wait?

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>That's my Questioneah, outside the top forty five, you're you're

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>getting lucky. No, I can't wait. Can't so offensive line

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>unless you signed a guy after the draft. But at

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>this point, who you sign it it's just gonna be

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.399
<v Speaker 1>plug and play and you feel great about it. It's

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty i mean pretty dry. Wait until point where. I

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's gonna be a that's really really it

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>looks gone drive well. And if they go wide receiver,

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>if they go wide receiver in the first round and

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>they are just tear your hands up, hey, your hands up,

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>forget about it. I mean they are sold on the

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>guys that they have. And McGovern is starting to stop this.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Come up. What happened to your twenty or twenty nineteen

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>first round pick? What happened to it? Traded it for

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a Marine Cooper twenty in nineteen? Yeah, twenty twenty. What

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>happened with your first round pick? Oh my gosh, it

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 1>was Ceedee Lamb. I mean, you've two of the last

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>three years have been wide receivers that have been taken

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>in the first round. Why three or four? I don't

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I make it three. I don't think

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you have I mean, you're not going to get the

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>same caliber player if you wait. But they've shown they

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>can draft Michael Gallop in the third round. It could

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 1>be a starter. Like, I just think you can wait

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 1>on that position, maybe more so than offensive line. And

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>once again, you don't need a number one. You got

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to give Ceedee Lamb a chance to be a number one.

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>You gotta give Michael Gallop five years, sixty two million

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>dollars deal that's out there and let him roll with it.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>You can go get a number three guy and he's

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you plenty of production. Doesn't matter who you

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>put in this system, right, it doesn't matter. That's that's

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of what I'm leading to to a certain extent.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you say that's stochastically, Yeah, that's the

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the way the organization, the way you're thinking. And

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>they've look, I don't I won't say devalued the wide

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>receiver position, so to speak. But they're just saying that, hey,

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>we don't need a guy to come in here twenty

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year and not give us the production

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>we need. They're setting presidents for that. If you're gonna

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>be get paid twenty, you're gonna produce like a guy

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>that's getting paid. You lost your one, you're four and

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>year six, it's a lot of production just walked out

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>of the door. One you're one, year four and year

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>six walked out as good as a two. A lot

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of absolutely, and he's going to be that when his

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>number two coming back to That's the other question. Oh yeah,

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>so you have a number two and he'll be back.

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>But when you know is how what's training camp looked like,

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>what's the first month of the season looked like. But

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>names we hadn't talked about, We hadn't talked much about Zeke,

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>We hadn't talked much about where Dak takes the next level.

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you knew ate him seventy five million dollars.

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>He has to make the next step as a quarterback

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to that game changer. Neither one of those guys, heck

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Man can do what you or anybody else in caliboyization

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>expects them to do. If you don't feel the gaps

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>at the office, no, I feel you one, So so

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think that we can just we're

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>not disregarding the conversation. It's just that their success is

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>dictated on who they put up front. So, which is

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>why we're all in a green, is that they need

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to pick a dog on guard. Not a swinging guard,

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>but a guard. Yeah, that's what one of those guys

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>are going to be. A guard. They played multiple positions

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>in college. But Zion Johnson and Kenyon Green don't get

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>it wrong. Don't get it twisted. They are guards. That's

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. If you're talking about going out

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>on the limb and getting a wide receiver at one

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm saying, this is what you need to build.

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Throw the whole cake away. And I mean Kyle said,

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean some of the visits that are being reported

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that they're talking to guys. I mean, that's what throws

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>me off. That's what I'm not listening. I refused to

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I've refused. It's not really reports that were in the building.

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean that you invite a lot of people. I

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>just I just mean, we're not putting out the full lists.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>No we're not there. But no, I hear it. The

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>full list will come out. Thought it's out. The list

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 1>is out. The list we didn't put it out. It's

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>out there. Oh yeah, but inside trading, no somebody. We

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like our jobs. But the whole thought process behind it

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>was why are there's so many first rounds. I mean

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Chris Olave, Drake, London, Trailing Burks were all guys up

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>at the top of that list. I mean we even

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>got to report it on the Blitz because they were

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>all up at the top of that list. And the

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>scouting apartment, scouting department or the front office is like, yeah,

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, talk about it. I just want to say

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a lave. I love him, I think great, great wire receiver.

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But there's a guy behind him next year that really us.

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>You just kind of chill out and wait till he

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>comes out. You just like Jackson Smith and Jacko because

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>he's a rock wall problem. Hey, kind of a badass. Well,

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you next year's class. I'm sorry, I'm jumping ahead.

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take a break. One thing that we

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't been talking about in the draft is secondary. Why

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>is that? Are we set at the secondary spot for

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.919
<v Speaker 1>the first time in any offseason that we can really

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.839
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<v Speaker 1>do more? Or has heck my Harrison? See's more? He

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<v Speaker 1>does more because he's right. You know what? I was

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>rocking my slurs. A lot of people have been given

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<v Speaker 1>me compliments on my SLR sunglasses. They're fire, those top guns,

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>they're fire. I need another set. I need another set.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a year. It's say it's coming up on

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.399
<v Speaker 1>a year and guess who still hasn't gotten his set

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of I'll take his set. We'll get another set once,

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you know. You know what, do you know what I need?

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I need another set because I don't wear sunglasses or

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't wear a reading glasses or anything like that.

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, because I got this X ray vision. But um,

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>but I need some uh my color sucked up. I

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>guess he colors crap. But I need another set of shades. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>With that, explain your turnover percentage in college? It was

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 1>lowest interception percentage in the whole freaking University of Washington history.

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Tell you that much Washington's never really had great quarterbacks.

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>They didn't want that. I bet they never knew that.

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>You never divulged that either, right, I yeah, what's that? No,

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take a ring. I'm going t keep you

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>keep your interception percentage low. I want to you know

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>what's funny? Funny? Here we go, funny quote. So when

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>back in college, right, my wife was actually she wasn't

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>my wife back then, obviously, but she was dating a

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>defense alignment back at the time on my team, and

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>so she was alo she was off limits for like

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>ten years. All right, But you know statue limitations. But

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>once that, you know, excided, I was inserted myself back

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<v Speaker 1>into the conversation. Married your teammates. What this is? Stale said,

0:44:56.160 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>there's statue. It's a statue. Don't drop anything around. What

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I was getting at is that she hated me as

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:11.919
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback in college. Really yeah, as a quarterback. She'd

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>hated me because she said, I will always run. It's like, well,

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I was running for my life and did you tell

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't see colors that you're running for your own teammates?

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>But she hated to this day, she's like, I hated

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you as a quarterback. I was like, well things, man,

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate thanks so much. Supports something about you every podcast. Hey,

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:38.760
<v Speaker 1>nine touchdowns, six interceptions in two thousand and five eleven

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>games started Isaiah stand back, then went on to two

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, played in seven games, had ten touchdowns

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and three or seven Hello, So before your injury, you

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>were really you were on fire. I was about to

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>be m P babe. You're on the wall right. Somehow

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>somehow I made the wall mean. I mean, Hey, amongst

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the just I was vaulted names of Jake Browning and

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Keith Price and Jake Locker Kyle, I mean, is a

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>gentleman by the name of Cody Pickett who was up

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>for the Heisman when I first got there. It's true,

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it's really freaking started three years war, right warm Moons

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 1>seventy six and seventy seven. He were brothers. The picket

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 1>still owns the single game passing performance. He's a beast

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>now four hundred and fifty five yards of one game?

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Can we change? Can we change your Wikipedia page? I

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:26.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do that. I don't you guys.

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>He's in like the old New England Patriots gear. He

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 1>probably I had no neck diesel back. Do you ever

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>touched you? I've never touched it. I didn't know. You

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to I think anybody can get on

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>there and edit. Did you see you see those shoulders

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>right now? Like the wooden coat hangers from like I

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know who our sponsor is, but it was from

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the hotel from them? Yea, the hotel wooden hangers are

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>freaking nice. They'll charge if you leave with it, though,

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So do you know get you? Let me ask you

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the sized you know? Do you know the most passing

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>yards you had in one game? I think it's Notre

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Dame game. I think, m ring the bell? What is it?

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Four hundred? Now? Was Mario cal three oh one? No, no, no, no, no,

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:19.240
<v Speaker 1>go to Notre Dame top passing performances in the games

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>three hundred yard passing mark twice three fifty three? My bad? Yeah,

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and then cal Cal was three h one Notre Dame

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>three fifty five. How about the Irish show passing total

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the fifteenth most ever at Washington was terrible. Yeah, we

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>had some bad teams back then. That's okay. You were

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>great on the NC Douaba football video. It was a beast.

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 1>People still come up to me to this day about this.

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Use you all the time. Yeah. That was the fastest

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the country at the time. So it was

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>right after like Vince Young kind of like emerged as

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a video game star because you could you could have

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.359
<v Speaker 1>a dual threat. And then Isaiah was the next man.

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It is that game coming back within it now? Yah?

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Can we can get it back now? Yeah? As you're

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>going to roll, all right, let's talk about the secondary.

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Final ten minutes here of talking Cowboys, I say a

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>stand back Washington football legend, Tema Harrison or Texas football legend,

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, because he calls the football legend, I'm Kyle

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeoman's secondary hasn't necessarily been in that conversation in terms

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:24.280
<v Speaker 1>of cornerbacks safety because of the guys Cowboys have returning,

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it looks like at this cornerback spot, Treyvon Diggs of

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>course leading the way, Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis all returning

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 1>along with some newcomers like Kelvin Joseph and Nayshaun Wright.

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>That we're picked in the top one hundred of last

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 1>year's NFL draft, then it's safety. You've got Jay Wren, curseback,

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.959
<v Speaker 1>Malie Cooker's back on a deal, Donovan Wilson still mulling

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 1>around there in the backside of the defense. Is the

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>secondary set Rob, or is it kind of tinkering on

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the edge of being an actual need in the future.

0:48:55.920 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>It looks pretty set to me because they didn't change anything.

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:02.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, they got Treyvon Diggs, they got I mentioned

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis earlier, they got Anthony Brown on the outside

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and potentially Kelvin Joseph pushing him like they thought could

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>happen as early as last season. And Malie Cooker now

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>projects as a starting safety with with Jayron Curse kind

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of playing safety, linebacker, whatever you want to call it.

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, it's it's I can't say this

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot over the last few years, but the secondary

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 1>looks about as stable as any position on the roster

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>right now. Oh God, do you say that again. I

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>want to hear it. I'm knocking on it. Right The

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>safety secondary looks about as staple as any position on

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the roster right now. I mean, they didn't really change anything, so,

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and and you've got young players that you

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>hope a sind like that's that's what you hope for

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>at a lot of positions, and that's not really the

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>case at other positions. The only thing they changed was

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>their numbers. Yes, changed, Yes, Jordan lewis wearing number two,

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown's wearing number three, and I just got used

0:49:56.320 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to seeing him in a different number. And now that's

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the third time he's changed numbers. Is that what it is?

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:09.359
<v Speaker 1>He went from twenty six to seven, threw me off. Man. Yeah,

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>do you think they changed because of Digs changing the seven?

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 1>And man, I can single digit? People think they can?

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Single digit looks cooler, It look cool. I don't know,

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>but it makes it difficult as all. Heck, for somebody

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>watching the game, maybe that's why they did it. They

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>see seven out there thinking of wide receiver. Look, you're

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 1>throwing to the wrong color jersey. You're having Isaiah stand back. Exactly,

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that's a problem here, Exactly. I told you guys all

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>last season be confident in Anthony Brown didn't. But but no,

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>what he came out and he proved all of the

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 1>NASA is wrong. He had a strong camp. I mean,

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:50.879
<v Speaker 1>aside from Heckman was cutting the guy after the Tampa

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Baker man, I mean Antonio Brown like, it's still running. Okay,

0:50:56.239 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>You're not wrong, It's still running right now when they

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>shut it off, he's still He's still going. He'll go okay.

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.800
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, that's what you had. And he started

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to compete oh the season, and you obviously with Travla Dickson,

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the job that he did last year, man, it's no

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>comparison to the work that he put in. But on

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the other side, we were thinking that man, he may

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>be the Achilles heel of the defense, and he ended

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 1>up not being that. I know we're supposed were talking

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 1>about the secondary, but I forgot that he on Neil

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>signed somewhere else as well, So we're down to two.

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're just trying to find something to

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 1>be mad at. I'm not. He's in Tampa. Yeah he left. No,

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just didn't really do anything. Three linebacker. Sorry, I

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know much about that. Jabril Demante Bond, but Jabril Cox,

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>have Luke Gifford, Luke, and then you have Micah and

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 1>they they viewed j Ron as part of that mix, honest,

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 1>because he's in the box so much. But I'm not

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.320
<v Speaker 1>saying they got great numbers, but I'm saying that, you know,

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>they don't feel as crazy about it as others might.

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those times, like you and I like,

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm numbers aren't great. They're not as good. I mean

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:09.959
<v Speaker 1>last year that looked like the deepest position on the team. Yeah.

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.359
<v Speaker 1>So how's Jabrill Cars Do we have any reports on him?

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Should be ready to go start of the season, that's

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the goal, like John Lejon, Yeah, yeah, Well, Kelvin Joseph

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.359
<v Speaker 1>is the guy in this whole mix that you want

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to be a contributor. You want him to push Jordan Lewis,

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you want him to push Anthony Brown. Uh, this is

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>he didn't. I mean, there's a lot of stuff I

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>think when I think of Kelvin Joseph, this is this

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to be important for him huge, you know,

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>if he wants to mature, be the player that the

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>organization thinks that he is he is because they put

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things and is on his plate and

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he handled it, handled it very

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>well in his first year, but he has to show

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the organization that he's matured. I say in your heart, no,

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 1>but your heart says no. My heart says no because

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how can you talk about willing's willing

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to do these things? How willing is he to make

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>changes within himself and be a professional. It's one thing

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 1>would be in a college athlete, but then when you

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>get to this level, who's a pro? And I don't

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>know if he's that, but I don't know him on

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a personal level. But everything that he projects doesn't project

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm a pro, Kyle, what's it say in your heart

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in regards a boss man? Fat, I'm kind of right

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 1>there with you. But he has to produce because I mean,

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>look at the look at the last second round picks,

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:30.879
<v Speaker 1>most recent second round picks that cowboys have put out

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>there on the table, and look at the history. Trayvon

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Diggs in twenty twenty, he's certainly produced. Connor mcg or,

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Tristan Hill in twenty nineteen. He hasn't necessarily produced.

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>He's still here. But are we confident in Tristan Hill?

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Is he kind of an afterthought? Absolutely, He's not one

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 1>of those guys at the top. Connor Williams was a

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>starter second round pick in twenty eighteen, should obi a

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:54.319
<v Speaker 1>woozier second round pick in twenty seventeen. Starter, Jalen Smith

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen starter even after an injury, Randy Gregory twenty

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 1>fifteen starter, to Marcus Lawrence twenty fourteen starter, he's got

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a contribute because if not, he's he's gonna be an afterthought.

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 1>But in your heart says, what right this second? No? No,

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I think AB's still the guy there. I agree.

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean he can't take a step because when

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>he played late in the season you saw flashes. But

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I think talent. I'd leaned towards his experience. Yeah, he

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 1>has all the talent in the world, So what's stopping

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:29.359
<v Speaker 1>him from taking the next step, Why don't they trust him?

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I asked the question. I mean, and and look, he

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>did have He got in a full training camp, so

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you can't say, oh, he didn't have an off season,

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 1>but he did miss six games with a growing injury

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that set him back. So you know, hopefully another full

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully it's a full off season, no COVID restrictions.

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what everybody's hoping. But prior to that injury, did

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you how did you feel? He did not? I mean,

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't impressive. He got hurt in the jack the

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>final preseason game against Jacksonville. It was obvious that ab

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 1>was the starter. He didn't win that job for the injury.

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:03.320
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the one thing he has to take that

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>second year, agree that second year jump, or else he's

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a afterthought in the room. And if if he

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>would have won that injury or excuse me, won that

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>battle prior to the injury, Anthony Brown may not be

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the cowboy this year. He may not be here. You

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 1>may have saved the five million dollars that would that

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.879
<v Speaker 1>was probably the plan when they drafted him. Correct honestly, yeah, yeah,

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 1>I have him or Jordan. I mean one of the two.

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Sure Terrence Steele is the reason why Allow Collins is

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:30.879
<v Speaker 1>in here anymore. Really, I mean the main reason why

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 1>salary man and the suspension in the Yeah, that didn't help.

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if you're you got a guy who's

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on a undrafted rookie contract versus saving ten million bucks

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>who played just as well or better at right tackle,

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean some mean, some decisions you just make easy

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.880
<v Speaker 1>for people. I mean, that's just one of them. But

0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>he crossed my mind. We were talking about guard. It's like,

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 1>you really think he couldn't have played guard because if

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you moved Collins to guard, yeah, you're not saving money,

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 1>but maybe you wouldn't be worried about guard at twenty four.

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I agree with you, but I think there

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 1>was some injury. They don't clearly didn't think he could

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>do it. They don't think he can play. Cincinnati thinks

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>he can play. No, I mean, and then moved to guard. Yeah,

0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 1>but but I mean they could cut him straight out.

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>They cut him straight up, and they didn't really save

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 1>him a ton of money. Maybe did this year, next

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>year not so much so. But Kelvin Joseph at the

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 1>top of the list in terms of guys that need

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:31.839
<v Speaker 1>to take that second year jump. I mean, I'll name

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:35.399
<v Speaker 1>some of the others. Zo Sakizoo, Chauncey Golston, Nashan ridgerbrol Cox,

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Josh Ball, send me Phoko, anybody there. I mean above Kelvin,

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Joseph more pressure to take a second year jump. Chauncey,

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be right in the mix. I mean, we

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:51.919
<v Speaker 1>you lose Randy Gregory, We're still chasing from the edge

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 1>position we have ever since DeMarcus Ware and I don't

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>care what anybody says, I agree, we have been chasing

0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 1>this position. And we finally get a young crop in

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:03.319
<v Speaker 1>here that goes into dan Quinn's rotation and Chauncey Ghost

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and he did produce, but you know next year you're

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 1>going to ask a lot more of him, especially if

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 1>they don't go in those first three picks and get

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 1>any defensive help. Yeah, that's a good one I'll throw.

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>We mentioned Josh Ball earlier. And because whoever wins that

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle job, history says you're going to be a

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>starter at some point this season. Tyrn Smith is probably

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 1>going to the Hall of Fame, but he missed five

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 1>games last year. Fourteen games a year before. You know,

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:34.439
<v Speaker 1>he missed six games last year fourteen, and then three

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>games for four straight seasons twenty sixteen through nineteen. I mean,

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to be prepared for that, you know so,

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 1>And unless they draft a guy or sign a veteran

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to fill that role, it could be Josh Ball. And

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>just lastly, I just want to say, when it comes

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 1>down to this draft, I know we're leading right up

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to it. The tight end position is so important and

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that there's enough emphasis being placed on it.

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And I know out the tag on Shoult we got

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 1>sprinkled back, but we are going to have to get

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:07.439
<v Speaker 1>a guy that can block in here, that can do both.

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I've not made it a secret that George Kittle is

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite tight ends, and it is because

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he is Conan the destroyer at the tight end position,

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and in Kelly Moore's offense, if he has that at

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the tight end, he can do anything. It opens up

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 1>everything that he wants to. It's a great point. Yeah,

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.680
<v Speaker 1>there's some steam, there's some momentum heading in your way

0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of Charlie Koehler out of Iowa State. It's a little

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>bit of momentum heading that direction. Fourth, that's a Dalton

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Scholtz round. You know you can find a tight end

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 1>six six, two fifty. It's moving that direction and there's

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>some guys. Or you could go with a Jilani Woods.

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>He's a resolutely massive six foot seven one of the tested,

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>literally tested as the highest graded tight end prospect in

0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the history of the analytical side of the NFL draft.

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 1>He was a ten out of ten on the Great

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Scale in terms of his athleticism, his size, and like

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 1>his but why does he have and inconsistent film? His

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 1>film is not very good. But to me, he tested

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.880
<v Speaker 1>better than Kyle Pitts. He tested better than what's wrong anybody? Really?

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:21.760
<v Speaker 1>That makes you feel better? Right? And run blocking tip.

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:25.919
<v Speaker 1>He's been slouching since we talked about tight end. Hold

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 1>on to the draftzine real quick? Are you are you

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>closing out? Yeah? Go for it? Well, I just before

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>we get out of here, I just think let's just

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>say condolences to family for Gary Brown Rayfield right, Wayne Haskins.

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Just a terrible weekend of news in the NFL. Former

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 1>running backs coach Gary Brown passing away Rayfield right. Hall

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 1>of Fame member of course, member of this organization for

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>many many years and uh a key contributed to the

0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 1>community as well. And then yeah, the past the tragic

0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>passing of Dwayne Haskins in Florida. I just gotta say

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<v Speaker 1>this about Rayphiel Right. Man. You know this this story franchise,

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you have so many great titans that came through here,

1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and Rayphael Right was one of those guys. I would

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<v Speaker 1>see him at our fundraiser. Him and guys like Cliff

1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Harris and you know Tony Dorset. These are guys that

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 1>when they left, they took a lot of glory with

1:00:22.240 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>them and they now have yellow jackets. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as fans is the game, the narrative, the

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<v Speaker 1>game advances. A lot of times people forget about those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're the guys that actually set the standard here.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why this organization is what it is because

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<v Speaker 1>he was the first big cat. I know, people know

1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Leon Let as a big cat. He was the first

1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:45.120
<v Speaker 1>big cat, the guy that played the position like they

1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:48.560
<v Speaker 1>had never seen anything like Rayphael Right when he played

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. And so, you know, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys, you have to give them their flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's not enough to give it to him after

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<v Speaker 1>they're gone, while they're here. And so when I see

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<v Speaker 1>any what's the ny of these guys come to, I

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<v Speaker 1>freak out, you know, because it's it's the game that

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<v Speaker 1>they played, and they put so much of their heart

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and soul into it for you know, Tony Dark said,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that, they have to get their flowers now.

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<v Speaker 1>So when ray Phael passed man, it obviously condulses to

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<v Speaker 1>him and his family. But man, a great cowboy on

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<v Speaker 1>the field he was. He was like Tyrann Smith before

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrn's play, I mean, right tackle was the guy I

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<v Speaker 1>played in five Super Bowls. Nobody played in more Super

1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Bowls in the NFL history than Rayfield. Right and off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. Just a great and nice man man, just

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<v Speaker 1>a good person. And the same same for Gary Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the first time I met Gary Brown was

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<v Speaker 1>first training camp I came back twenty fifteen. Jason Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>got rid of the basketball court by the player rooms

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<v Speaker 1>over there in ox and hard, but at that point

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<v Speaker 1>it was still out there and he came shot hoops

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<v Speaker 1>with us. I mean, just just every everybody loved Gary Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, incredible man, a great coach too. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a hard week for sure, and of course passing

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<v Speaker 1>our condolences on as a show. Glad we got to

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<v Speaker 1>fit that in. Thanks Rob for that. That does it

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<v Speaker 1>for us here on Talking Cowboys. We'll be back next

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<v Speaker 1>week eleven thirty Central time in the morning. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>some draft next week. We've got two shows to the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft, only two, and we're gonna figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna fix this team when we come back next week.

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<v Speaker 1>For Chris being Rob Phillips, Isaiah's Dan back, heck my Harrison.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the Star on Frisco.

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