1 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson 4 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: and Matt we're getting closer to the NFL Draft. We're 5 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: just over a week away. Uh. Some news and notes 6 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: trickling in from around the league, and Uh, first thing 7 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on today was the report for 8 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: me and rap report that Alejandra Villa Nueva is going 9 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to visit with the Ravens at some point this week. 10 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: They're not going to sign him this week. I would 11 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: imagine not. Well, here's and here's why the conk pick 12 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: formula ends on the twenty seven. He's like gonna sign 13 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: for peanuts. He's not gonna sign for peanuts, and they're 14 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: not going to sign him before that and then hurt 15 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: their camp pick formula also helping the Steelers camp pick. 16 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: For right, it's a double whammy for them, and right 17 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense. I found it odd though, Like 18 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: I would imagine he's the best available tackle right now, 19 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: healthy one. Yeah. Yeah, and I think Orlando Brown is 20 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: a legit chance to get traded. Yeah, But Russell Okung 21 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: is out there as well. But yeah, and say I'm 22 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: not sure how healthy he is. And when you say that, 23 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: but fishing and that, Yeah, good point. But is our 24 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: right tackle? He could play right tackle? I mean, or 25 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, you could play left tackle. And maybe they're 26 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: thinking about trading Orlando Brown during the draft. Well, that's 27 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: what I mean. Orlando wants to play left. Stanley is 28 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: a left. How's the left? Somebody hops it. They may 29 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: want to open up there. Hey, if we want to check, 30 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: kick the tires on Villain the Way. But how healthy 31 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: is he? What can he do? We've played against him 32 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: for years. We know what he is. Right, They have 33 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: a great um. If we get to a point in 34 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: the in the draft and somebody says, hey, we'll give 35 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: you a second round pick for Orlando Brown because because 36 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: we don't like what's available now for us in the 37 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: tackle market. Okay, you know they'll do it, and then 38 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: and then signed Villain the Wave after the draft. But 39 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: then now let's play right potentially. I mean, well, the 40 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: problem here is maybe a meet with him today, what 41 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: do you think about playing right tackle? They don't know 42 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: Stanley's had multiple surgeries on the leg too, So I 43 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: mean if you sign now and you're the Ravens and 44 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: you traded Orlando, you still draft one. Right, it might 45 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: be spent a Brown. I mean it might be. It 46 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: might be a trick guy. But yeah, I mean it 47 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: goes to the point of if you're meeting with him 48 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: right now, I think you have to broach the subject 49 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: of do you are you comfortable playing right tackle? And 50 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: he may or may not. Yeah, you know, but that's 51 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the need right now. But you're right, Stanley started to 52 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: count on too to play sixteen games at this point. Yeah. 53 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Interesting in fact, I you know, the stuff that I 54 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: saw is he might be ready for the start of 55 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the season. Well, that doesn't sound promising, right, Or even 56 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: if you don't want to draft a tackle, you know, 57 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: if they're looking at like, but we need edge and receiver. 58 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: We're not going to trade or Land. We'd like to tackle. 59 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: We'd like to take tackle off our board here, but 60 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: we need six offensive line sense at times, and you know, 61 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I would be our opening day starter because it's not 62 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: looking good for Stanley maybe, And I think I think 63 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers are in that same kind of situation right 64 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: now where a lot of teams are the more they're 65 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: waiting to see what they do in the draft, and 66 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: then they'll make a move on a tackle. You're gonna 67 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: see that a lot. I mean, I give that the 68 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: tackle market, the veteran tackle market was not picked over 69 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: nearly as much as some of the other markets. I mean, 70 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: and usually they get overpaid that most years, I would 71 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: have been signed somewhere for probably more than he's worth 72 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: at this point, you know, um, because it is a 73 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: really good tackle class, but there's always needs there. I mean, 74 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: if we went through all thirty two teams, I bet 75 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: we'd come up with twenty that could use a tackle, 76 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: including Pittsburgh, including Baltimore. That as good as the tackle 77 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: dret class is, only a dozen or fifteen of those 78 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: are gonna get somebody that they're interested in, and then 79 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: you get him the mini camp and camps and realize 80 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: this guy's really he's gonna he's gonna need a lot 81 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: of work. Yeah, the Fishers and Okungs and Owls of 82 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: the world will all be employed. I don't want to be. Yeah, 83 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: they'll get they'll get you know, they'll get scooped up 84 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: at some point here. I got asked the Steelers on 85 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,119 Speaker 1: the market for any of those I mean, they've already 86 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: signed Joe Haig, who's kind of fits into that role. 87 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: He's a younger and some of those guys, and he's 88 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: got more health in his background, and I would say 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: he's a better athlete at this point too, and you know, yeah, 90 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: and less accomplished. Let's let's look at this real quick 91 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: here and how deep this tackle clubses? I was asked today, 92 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: what is this a deep draft overall? Or is it? 93 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I said, I thought. I thought it was just because 94 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: of the position depth at some key positions cornerback, tackle, linebacker, 95 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: received the edge guys today on my podcast, And I thought, 96 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: and when we really look at a list and you 97 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was deeper than I had given that 98 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: credit for, you know, just focusing on one. I think 99 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: this this draft goes five rounds are so deep when 100 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: guys that that could come in and help. Yeah, four 101 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: to five rounds, which is typically is a pretty deep draft. 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is what you plan to 103 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: do it or not, but let's just spend two minutes 104 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: and talk with each position if it's deep or not. Okay, 105 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking here at the tackles I got Sewell Slater, 106 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: Dry saw Jenkins. Leatherwood could be attack ward guard. I 107 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: think he's a tackle once all said and done. Yeah, 108 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: he's got long enough arms, and yeah he's a lit 109 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: only consistent. You're looking at Stone Forsyth. There's some guys 110 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: here that have emerged that we weren't talking about a 111 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: month and a half ago. Without question, uh Aikenberg, Sam 112 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: caused me, Dylan rat and Spender Brown, Jalen Moore, Walker, 113 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Little Brady Christensen, John Ball or Josh Ball, Jalen Mayfield. 114 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: That's you're talking like fourteen deep there. Yeah, as I say, 115 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 1: that's James Hudson, Deante Smith. I mean, now you're getting 116 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: into sixteen seven team. You didn't mention like Carmen Um, 117 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: Jackson Carman. You know some of the guys that are 118 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: probably guards, like that whole list. I think pretty much 119 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: all those guys are tackles. In a normal year, a 120 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: guy like you know, Spencer Brown could be second round 121 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: pick some years. Samuel Cosmi is probably a first round picking. 122 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: A lot of you know, I mean Eric Fisher went 123 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: number one overall and first overall. Yeah, I bet there's 124 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: five or six in the first round still, and there's 125 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: still that depth there, you know, guys who are going 126 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: to go in the third round going in the second round. 127 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: In previous guys in the second round were first round picks. 128 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you mentioned Walker a little even Yeah, 129 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: Walker Little is a strange one, right, Um, so there's 130 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: there's some good depth there. Uh, same thing. I think, 131 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, the the offensive line overall, Uh, the interior 132 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: guys are you know, there's some depth there. I mean 133 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: the kid at stand the center at Stanford could be 134 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: a starter on the right team, you know, and he's 135 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: the fifth center off the board. You know. Usually I 136 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: think there's two or three starting centers. I think there's 137 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: five or six this year. Yeah, yeah, I mean so 138 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: I think that and another maybe three or four guys 139 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: who were starters down the road. I don't know. If 140 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: you get to ten maybe not well not I said, 141 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: maybe guys who maybe turned into a get like a 142 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: green in a year. It is probably a starter where 143 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: but you look at it, let's say, uh, you know 144 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people talked about the kid from Penn State, 145 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: Michael Mnee. He could he could go. You know, again, 146 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at pure centers here. You get Dickerson, Miners, 147 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Humphrey Myers, I think they all project the starters. I 148 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: think Green if he's a center or guard, Dolman if 149 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: he ran lands in the right spot, if he's a 150 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: Niner or a ram or right Green. You know, people 151 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: talk Drake Jackson's a little undersize, but I think he's 152 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: a backup. Yeah, he's probably a backup Trey Hill. He's 153 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: a guy that you know, these guys, Jimmy Morrissey from PITT. 154 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean he had some some traits that But there's 155 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: six or seven probable starters within a year or two, 156 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: which is rare. And then you had the guards into it, 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: where you have again Kendrick Green or US we're looking 158 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: at there. Jack Anderson from Texas Tech is probably Day 159 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: three guy, but he's probably a starter in this league. 160 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: That's all said and done. Um, So there's some some 161 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: depth at that position. Overall. I think it's a very 162 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: deep line class and and works really well for the Steelers, 163 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: more so at tackle and center than guard. But the 164 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: guard group is pretty good. Yeah you could. I mean 165 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: some of those tackles moved to guard, and some of 166 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: those tackles and especially guards will move to center. And 167 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: there's some the Notre dame dudes or you know, there's 168 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: a couple of options there. But I think there's depth there. 169 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: There's depth at linebacker. I think there's a ton of 170 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: depth that off the ball linebacker. Yeah, I mean the 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: only it's easier in this draft. I think the name 172 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: of the spots where it's not deep. Defensive tack, de tackle, 173 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: tight end, tight end is not deep. Running back, running 174 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: back is not deep. I don't know if if quarterback 175 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: is are not. I think that's a weird conversation. I 176 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: don't even include the quarterbacks in that conversation because they're 177 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: gonna be five taken, maybe even six taken in the 178 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: first round. That doesn't mean that's where they all belong. 179 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm here more and more that Mond, Trask and Mills 180 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: won't get it, won't get out of the second round. Yeah, 181 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: you know, but that's pretty crazy. Have eight go in 182 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: the first two rounds. Some of those will be pushed up. 183 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not sure they all deserve it. I don't 184 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: know that safety is super deep. I wouldn't say so. 185 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: There's a lot, but there'll be corners that will move 186 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: to safety. So you know, we have some conversions, um, 187 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of corners all shapes and size. 188 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: The wide receiver classes is a kind of a strange one. 189 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: The three guys at the toppers star you know, yeah, 190 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: top ten picks, and then there's gonna be a gap 191 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: probably before sort of similar last year though with Rugs, 192 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: Judy and Lamb, but then we saw a leven of 193 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: them taken in the first fifty picks, which I still 194 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: think it's possible. I think there'll be a lot of 195 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: Day two receivers. Yeah, I'm not sure it'll be a 196 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: lot of first round receivers um, but there's a lot 197 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: of smaller receivers though there's not as many those big types, 198 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: the prototypical type. So I think overall, I think it's 199 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: a pretty deep draft. I do too. I do too. 200 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: And we're we're hard on the running backs outside the 201 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: top three kind of those, yeah, Herbert or you know, 202 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: a couple of doesn't mean they'll be stars, but the stars, 203 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: but I bet they're on your fantasy team and you're 204 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: starting them one day, you know what. I mean, A 205 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: couple of those. But that's not what the Steelers are 206 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: looking for. I mean, that's our that's been our point 207 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: all along with that, Like look at their roster they 208 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: don't have a starting running back. I mean two years 209 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: ago they had been the market for those type of 210 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: guys or you know, but this year, I think they 211 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: need a star. Now you need a guy you don't have. 212 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: You don't have James Conner here anymore. Is your bell cow? 213 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: You need a bell cow. You can't. You can't go 214 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: in and hope that you get a bell cow in 215 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: the fifth or fifth round. No, that's not good business. 216 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: But most teams with running back quote needs, they'll go 217 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: get somebody that's adequate. It's not a great running back 218 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: if you've already you know. For example, we'll just look 219 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: at the Cardinals for example. Okay, they already had Edmunds. Okay, 220 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: they could they could live with him as a starter 221 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: if they had to, And I think they're planning on 222 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: they'll lead the team and carries, and then they had 223 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: they had Connor to the equation, not not. They got 224 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: two guys who if they had this start a game 225 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: with them. They're fine. And if Connor's hurt, they can 226 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: live with it. They'll probably draft on in the fifth 227 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: round or something like that. I just and maybe hits, 228 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't. But but you don't you don't need to. 229 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: You don't need him to. You don't need him to, 230 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: but he might and we tend be their bell cow 231 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: right or next year. You know, there's a team you 232 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: can take that you can take that chance. The Steelers 233 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: can't take that chance. They can't take that chance. I mean, 234 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: they need a guy that they could hand the ball 235 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: to a lot early and not put the offense on 236 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 1: his shoulders. That's asking a lot, but be a foundational 237 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: player of the offense. Yeah, and I think there's three 238 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: of them right yeah. I mean, how many other teams 239 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: are in that position right now that they need to 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: get a starting running back? Atlanta maybe, I say Atlanta 241 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: and the Jets. The Jett I mean p Ryan right 242 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: now is number one in the Jets. If you're gonna 243 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: break in Mack Wilson, boy, would be nice to give 244 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: him one of those three backs, you know what I mean. 245 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't think Miami is. But I wouldn't kill him. 246 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: Wouldn't kill them just because because they're they're they don't 247 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: care who they run out there. They gotta you know, 248 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: they've got a stable um. The same thing with San 249 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: Francisco kind of, but boy, they trade up a lot 250 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: of assets. Can they be taken a running back high 251 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: when you don't have any first round picks the next 252 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: couple of years, you know what I mean? And that 253 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure Shanahan thinks he can get Hubbard turn him 254 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: into something. Remember he hits is a lot of most 255 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: like you know, trades get him in the fourth round 256 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: something like that. You see some Tevin Coleman comparison. Absolutely fast, 257 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, and he's aggressive, but he's kind of straight 258 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: line ish. Um. But the thing is, what which of 259 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: those teams can afford to use or an early pick 260 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: on the Big three, Like I don't know that Atlanta can. 261 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: They're not gonna take him befour they if they trade 262 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: down to ten, that's still too high. Well, if they 263 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: trade down to ten and pick up other seconds and 264 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: thirds and stuff, then maybe their early second is a 265 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: running back, but not not in the first round. Not 266 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: in the first round, you know. I mean, if they 267 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: loved Harris and they moved to Washington's pick, that could 268 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: be a Harris spot. Or if they moved to New 269 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: England's pick, maybe that's a Harris spot. Um. But my 270 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: other point with them too is if they stick, they're 271 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna take an offensive player. Can they take two offensive 272 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: players with their first two picks considering how bad their 273 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: defense is? I don't think. But they need they needed 274 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: starting running back. They need starting running back. So unless 275 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: if you want the Steelers to land one of the 276 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: big three, I think you want to landed to pick 277 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: at four, Yes, I think so. I mean, it doesn't 278 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: guarantee you. I'm not and I'm not sold that that's 279 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: going to happen. But I also don't know that Atlanta 280 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: moves down far enough that they get out the offensive 281 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: guy anyway, because I don't think. I mean, for for 282 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: somebody to move up to four from somewhere in the teens, 283 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be super expensive. I mean, New England go 284 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: from fifteen to four is given up three first round 285 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: draft picks, and that would be completely Belichick has has 286 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: never taken a quarterback in the first round right ever. 287 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean he lucked into he probably would have if 288 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: he had in a Brady for a minute. But they've 289 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: drafted a lot of them, but not that high. The 290 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: highest one was Garoppolo in the second round. If Atlanta 291 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: would get the I mean, Washington stands out to me, 292 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: like what do they pick something like that, and they 293 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: would have to give up a bevy of picks. And 294 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that they see I don't know that 295 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: they are going to be in the market to move 296 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: up to four. I don't know if Atlanta is in 297 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: the market to move forward from moving from forward to twenties. 298 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: You were bad last year, right right, right right, and 299 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: so you earned the fourth pick in the draft, and 300 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're gonna slide back and you're 301 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: built that. Yeah, you're your quarterbacks thirty six. You're built 302 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: to win now. And Julio Jones is in his thirties. 303 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: These guys are built to win now as opposed to 304 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, so that's the future picks. Yeah, I was 305 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: reading something about it, you know, I was actually reading 306 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: something about that yesterday that the owner, Arthur blank Um 307 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: is saying, hey, look, we're at four. If there's a 308 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: quarterback there that we like, we're not in this position 309 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: every It's kind of like the you know, the situation 310 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: with the Steelers in in two thousand four or two 311 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: two thousand four, where you're not in that position all 312 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: the time they get that quarterback, you got to take 313 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I think there's a very strong case for that, 314 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: and they're there if you feel like you're gonna you 315 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna be in the twenties from here 316 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: on out, you know, and everybody thinks they are right, 317 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: you know. But that's a solid organization. Yeah, And you 318 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: look at We've talked about this before when you look 319 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: at that division. Okay, Breeze just retired, Brady's not there forever. 320 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: Brady's not gonna be around forever. Carolina's rebuilding, right. Is 321 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: Donald's gonna take over the division? Probably not? Is Winston 322 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna take over the division? I mean, I think the 323 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Steelers are a better organization. And but if the Steelers 324 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: are picking for right now, they'll be taking they'll be 325 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback right Lands or the fields or you know, 326 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: and you'd be glad to do it, even if you 327 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: think Ben had a year or two. But the way 328 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta restructured Ryan made it sound like we he's gonna 329 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: be our starter for two years and be really hard 330 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: to get out of. The Ryan contract would be Yeah. 331 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: But but teams do it all the time. No, It's 332 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: not like teams don't do these things. I don't know. 333 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: They're a really interesting team to me. It also doesn't 334 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: mean that Ryan doesn't retire after good you know, good 335 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: this season. I mean he's he's an old thirty six. 336 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: I mean, he looks his age. They have a they 337 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: have a potential out after the season with him. So 338 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: he gets like he's a two year starter. Yeah, so 339 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: you get this year out of him. Um, if you 340 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: cut him start this year, if you cut him after 341 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: this season, he's a forty million in dead cap space. 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: Was we saw with the Steelers can restructuring Roethlisberger. You 343 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: can make that work. And they really had to make 344 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: that Ryan move just together. They weren't worse shape than 345 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: the Steelers just to get cap complied. Next year the 346 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: cap goes up and maybe you say, okay, we got 347 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: a good young roster here, the new quarterback that we 348 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: just took in the fourth. Overall, we're we're ready to 349 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: move on. I think there's a really I mean, I 350 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: honestly think it is like a fifty percent chance they 351 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: stick and pick. But the teams that would have to 352 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: come up, probably Denver. I'd like to go all the 353 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: way back and again to get back to our original 354 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: concept here nine is too hid to take a running 355 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: back and running back though, right I mean, they might 356 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: take Wattle, and they might get they might get Denver's 357 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: second round pick or next year's first, or well, I'm 358 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: sure they're gonna there's sure there's gonna be next year's 359 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: first of all, but they may also get Denver's too. 360 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: Then you worry about them take Then you worry about 361 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: them jumping up ahead of you, you know, because then 362 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: they'll have two early second round picks that somebody may say, 363 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: all right, I'll take both those second round picks and 364 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: give you twenty. But if I were them, I mean, 365 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: I would just take it back with one of those 366 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: early second round picks. You know, take Harris maybe, and 367 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: you get end up with Williams and you're fine, you know. 368 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, because they're gonna have the fourth, they're gonna 369 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: pick thirty six. Yeah, let's say that early second now 370 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: could easily be a back because you've got so many 371 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: other things. We can address the defense with your other picks. 372 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're the key of the draft right now. 373 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: We know three quarterbacks are gonna go if they stick 374 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: and pick I would still consider consider taking Kyle Pitts 375 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: and try to win. Now, I'm not sure that's the 376 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: smartest move. Yeah, I mean, quarterbacks are hard to pass up. Again, 377 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: if you're if you're not a team that typically drafts 378 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: in the top ten, or if you're you're not, you're 379 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: not typically in a position to make that pick. And 380 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: you you have a friend, like a a clear cut franchise, 381 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: like a quarterback looking you in the face a field, 382 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: just sitting there. Do you take him? I tend to 383 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: agree to. Yeah. You know, it's different if you're Miami, Philly, 384 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: the Jets. I mean, you have multiple picks next year already. 385 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, you've got a lot of assets next year. 386 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: That's okay, we'll hang with twa. You know, we'll hang 387 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: with Hurts for this year. Philly might have three first 388 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: round picks next year if Wentz works out, three first 389 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: round picks next year. So build a nest and see 390 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: if you see if you have something that hurts, he's cheap. 391 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: And then you move up next year where Atlanta doesn't 392 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: have that working for him, No, they don't. And again 393 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: their quarterback is thirty six. Uh, you know, and again 394 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't the most mobile guy to begin with. You 395 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: can maybe even trade him a year from now. There's 396 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: that too. I mean, you know, he has a great year, 397 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: good offense, Trey Lance is sitting on the bench, Ben retires, 398 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: A Steelers say we'll give you a third round pick 399 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: for and pay him thirty million for one year. And 400 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: you know there's this thing that is his base salary 401 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: in sixteen point two five million UM. Now he's got 402 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: a he's got a seven point five million dollar roster 403 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: bonus in there. But again, you're still talking about twenty 404 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: three million dollars for a starting quarterback. But the cap 405 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: that goes up by then or ten per cent or whatever, 406 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: and even the next year is is ine. It's a 407 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: five million at the seven point five million dollar roster bonus. Yeah, 408 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: if I'm Atlanta, it would take a lot for him 409 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: to give up that pick. Yeah, I mean I would 410 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: consider going to eight. You still might get a quarterback, 411 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: and you still might get the fifth best quarterback. You 412 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: might get back Jones or if he's still out there. 413 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, Atlanta could end up with a back in 414 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, if they move out of for But 415 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't see them taking one before the Steelers pick. Like, 416 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: I keep getting questions about what happens if both Harris 417 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: and a t N go before before the Steelers pick. 418 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: Do you just take Williams? I don't know that. That's 419 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: why I can't wrap my mind around that, because you 420 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: just I don't think it's gonna happen because they're not 421 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: gonna go They're not one top ten. I don't think 422 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: they go top fifteen. I don't either. So you're gonna 423 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: tell me the two running backs are gonna be taken 424 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: between pick sixteen and twenty four. I think the Jets 425 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: and Miami's second pick are your land mines, and I'm 426 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: not both gonna take running backs because they both got 427 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: high sec seconds they can get. After the Steelers take 428 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Harris or whatever, they'll still probably end up with a 429 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: t N or Williams or whatever. And they have a 430 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: lot more needs, Like the Jets need o line, they 431 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: need edge pass rush, I mean expensive things, corners. Um. 432 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, Miami I think has a really good chance. 433 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: They'll probably end up getting the skill guy who's left. 434 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: If they take penn Ay Sold, they'll probably take a 435 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: receiver with a second first round pick. If it's the 436 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: other way around, they end up taking Tevin Jenkins or 437 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: their second round pick, right, So you never know. But 438 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: I mean one of those teams could love Harris without question, 439 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: and that would make sense for a young quarterback. I'm 440 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: sure that'd be But I don't think to go off 441 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: the board before. Yeah, I have a hard time believing 442 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: that to go. I think there may be one gone 443 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: and okay, but right now, Vegas odds are point five 444 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: running backs go in the first round. I'd go over that. 445 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: I would go over that too. But that just shows you. 446 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's based on recent history and you know, yeah, 447 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: and the Steelers are probably the one that Vegas is 448 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: count is is worried about or thinking there's the is 449 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: the one, you know, So that tells you a lot. 450 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: I think they'll have their choice of running backs. If not, 451 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: the one will be gone. Yeah. Um, you know, I 452 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: know a lot of people they have to trade down. 453 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: They can't take the running back in, they have to 454 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: trade down. Well that's all well ideal, absolutely, it's it's 455 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: good in theory. But when you get to the twenty 456 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: fourth pick and nobody's on the phone calling you, you know, yeah, 457 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: now you've gotta be ready to make your pick because otherwise, 458 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: are you calling people up on the You're not gonna 459 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: get as much if you're called. If you're the one 460 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: making the phone calls. People know you're you're hot to 461 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: get out of that spot, and calls happened before the draft. 462 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Tampa calls the Steelers the night before 463 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: the draft saying, you look like a theme that could 464 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: trade back. Would you be interested? Sure, and you get 465 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: the deal worked out, but we'll give you thirty two 466 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 1: and sixty four if our guys available, right, and then 467 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: he gets he goes to pick before and then that 468 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: call doesn't happen, and or you know, you get to 469 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: that pick twenty four and let's say you know, one 470 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: of the running backs is gone and in moving back 471 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: in right now. I think that's very possible. The other thing, 472 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: which I think would be extreme, but I got a 473 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: lot of word today that Dickerson LANDA Dickerson's medicals were 474 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: really good on the recheck. And that's third hand information. 475 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: Like Landon didn't call me up Trump. I'm sure his 476 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: agent is calling people saying, hey, Landon, land is checked out. Fine. 477 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean I heard landser Line talking. It was the 478 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: same thing with with with the cornerback with Farley. Farley, 479 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: You're not going to hear the opposite. That's not that's 480 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: not coming from teams. That's coming from the agents. Oh 481 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: he's good. He's good, But I've heard every step of 482 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: the way. It's sort of like Farley. If Dickerson's a 483 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: go medically, he could be a first round pick, and 484 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: he could be the Steelers first round pick in my opinion, right, 485 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a very easy landing spot. 486 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: And if he's right, I'd have no problem with it. Right, 487 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: it screws you up for the running back. But his 488 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: medical history is a book. Oh yeah, right, at two 489 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: different schools, and right, he'd be a great addition if 490 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: you could tell me he's no worse medically than anyone 491 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: else in this draft. The boy that's tough. You know, 492 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: you look at him, and even like Jalen Phillips I 493 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: said I mentioned we did at edge conversation today, Phillips 494 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: is my number one edge. I think you agree that 495 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: he's you know, I like them more than Pay. I 496 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: like it more than no Way. But if your jobs 497 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: on the line and you're picking those two, is it 498 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: is he that much better than Pay that you can 499 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: afford to make that call? And those those three concussions, 500 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: he had a fine This guy retired, you know what 501 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: I mean? I mean he's like, I'm done playing football. 502 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: That's risky. I mean, tiebreakers aren't going to go his 503 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: way or dickers in his way, right, he goes back 504 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: to I mean, you know when we talked to Kevin 505 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: Colbert a while back, actually his last last year, when 506 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: we're talking to him pre opt outs, and he's talking about, 507 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, if it comes down to a tie or 508 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: if it's close between a guy who played and a 509 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: guy who opted it out, we're gonna take the guy 510 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: who played because we have we have more, we have 511 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: more information on him. Like, that's really gotta hurt Walker little. 512 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: Like we was named what'd you name? Fourteen or fifteen tackles, 513 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: and he's as talented it's just about any of them. 514 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: He just doesn't play two years and he's gonna lose 515 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: a lot of tie breaking. When we had Lance's airline on, 516 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going back and looking at half of 517 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: a twenty nineteen game and then teen tape on this 518 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: guy and a pro day that was good. You know 519 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: he was he was nineteen years old. Then, Yeah, what's 520 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: he like now he learned? I mean, he hasn't blocked 521 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: anybody a long time, Like why doesn't he get the 522 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: senior role. That's a bad Yeah, that's a bad mistake. 523 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: You gotta be there. But yeah, there's a lot of 524 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: them this year, and there'll be missus. And I've said 525 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: this many time, we'll look back on this draft and 526 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: last year, the whole COVID era, and I'm sure if 527 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: we just focus on the scouting world during the COVID era, 528 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: we'll be like, wow, what were teams thinking? And like, 529 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: you have to remember how the mindset was, because it 530 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a couple of dudes in the fourth and 531 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: fifth round in a normal year, maybe we're second or first, 532 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, if you knew. And likewise, there maybe some 533 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: guys overdrafted because well, we have more information on this 534 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: guy than we had on those two guys. We're gonna 535 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: take this guy instead. And those two guys both were 536 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: better to end up being better players, and that pick 537 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: will happen. At overall will be like, oh that makes sense. 538 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty safe. I mean, not a super upside guy, 539 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: and he's a lifetime backup or out of the league 540 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: in three years because he wasn't good tough I mean 541 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: the Jarvis Jones type, you know what I mean? Like 542 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: that you kind of know what he has, but it'll 543 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: be interest you know. Yeah, I can't wait as as 544 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: we get closer here. Um, I'm alo. It's almost like 545 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: it's almost like the twelve Days of Christmas now. And 546 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: what's problematic for us is there's not a lot of 547 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: news between now and then because this is when the 548 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: teams are really hunker down, and the only the only 549 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: news that comes out now is typically the this is 550 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: don't believe it season. Yeah, I mean, like again that 551 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: Dickerson news that might not be true. You know, you 552 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: hear third hand information that it went well, but you're 553 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: never gonna hear boys. Medicals are a disaster because the 554 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: people releasing it, or doesn't they have they have a 555 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: reason to do it, unless it's it's a team putting 556 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: them out there and saying we want them to we 557 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: gotta try to get him at thirty seven or something 558 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: like that. We're gonna see if we can put this 559 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: information out there. But teams, no team right, teams are busy. 560 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: They're locking down building boards right now. Yeah. And the 561 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: thing that's funny too is because we've read fifty million mocks, 562 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: we assume all these teams boards have been set for months. 563 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: They're just getting set now, you know what I mean, 564 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: Like they've got all the nation and now they got 565 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: to put the book together. I mean there's a chance 566 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers don't like Nage Airs at all. Yeah, I mean, 567 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it because they're close to the team, 568 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, because we're close to the team. But they're 569 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: they're building their boards now. You know. It's in the 570 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: coaches just got involved recently. Ye. So anyways, that's gonna 571 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: do it. For this segment of the Drive here on 572 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio, I want to thank my partner Matt 573 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Williamson UH for all the good info there, and want 574 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: to also thank Jacob Back for keeping us on the air. 575 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: I also want to thank you for listening to this 576 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.