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Speaker 6: We got a lot we're gonna talk about this morning.
Speaker 6: We've got cowboys are looking for a little defensive end help. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we'll talk about that here in a second. We'll get
Speaker 6: some practice notes and some observations from you guys from
Speaker 6: what you've seen over the last couple of days of practice.
Speaker 4: The pads have come on, so it's a good time to.
Speaker 6: Observe what players have been showing up when now there's
Speaker 6: a little bit more contact and then we got a
Speaker 6: few storylines we're gonna hit. I want to talk a
Speaker 6: little bit about some of the guys that are returning
Speaker 6: from injury and what we've seen from them so far,
Speaker 6: maybe even see if we have some time to get
Speaker 6: into what has been a big achilles heel for this
Speaker 6: defense at times over the last few years, stopping the run,
Speaker 6: and the players that are going to be most important
Speaker 6: to fixing that going into the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 4: So let's start first with defensive end.
Speaker 6: Help Nick, tell me a little bit about what the
Speaker 6: guys that are bringing in this morning and bringing in
Speaker 6: some guys for workouts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, bringing in four guys for workouts in the wake
Speaker 5: of the Sam Williams injury, and honestly, according to kind
Speaker 5: of the rumblings, this was even a position group if
Speaker 5: they maybe are looking to address even before that injury,
Speaker 5: So now becomes even more important looking at these guys.
Speaker 5: But the name up top is Carl Lawson. You're probably
Speaker 5: familiar with his productivity twenty seven career sacks and seventy
Speaker 5: four games.
Speaker 3: A little bit more of a power guy, but he does.
Speaker 5: Have tools in his toolbag that kind of shows some
Speaker 5: speed stuff and shows his athleticism around the edge too.
Speaker 3: I think he marries those two things really well. He
Speaker 3: might cost you a.
Speaker 5: Little bit more than these other guys, but I think
Speaker 5: if he comes out here and has a really good workout,
Speaker 5: I think they could probably make something work. Shaka Tony,
Speaker 5: a round seven pick for Washington back in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 5: was college teammates with Micah Parsons one and a half
Speaker 5: career sacks in twenty six games. Only lasted two seasons
Speaker 5: with the Commanders, and has kind of just found his
Speaker 5: spot on some practice squad since then.
Speaker 3: Justin Hollins.
Speaker 5: He's a grat of Arlington Martin High School down in Arlington.
Speaker 5: Fifth round pick for Denver back in twenty nineteen, ten
Speaker 5: and a half career sacks in sixty seven games.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit more experienced.
Speaker 5: Than Tony, but productivity is still kind of rolling around
Speaker 5: that same stratosphere. And then Quadeen Mohammad, a sixth round
Speaker 5: pick out of New Orleans in twenty seventeen. He's been
Speaker 5: out of the league since last year. He was out
Speaker 5: of the league last year, but twelve career sacks in
Speaker 5: eighty four games. What he brings you was he's his
Speaker 5: productivity and stopping the run though, So I think if
Speaker 5: they want a guy who can be that run stopper
Speaker 5: around the edge, if they want another one that they
Speaker 5: can pair with DeMarcus Lawrence and now Marshawn Neil and
Speaker 5: the young guy than al Quade Mohammad, would be an
Speaker 5: interesting addition for me.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if they add one or two.
Speaker 5: I think potentially adding to could be an option for them,
Speaker 5: just kind of depending on how the numbers worked out,
Speaker 5: and obviously the workouts themselves, but this is an interesting
Speaker 5: crop of crop of guys. I think they'll be able
Speaker 5: to kind of see who's who's the better one, and
Speaker 5: we'll see who they sign at the end of the day.
Speaker 7: Well, you get your fastball working today.
Speaker 8: Yeah, appreciate it the sack appreciate it, right, No, no, man, absolutely,
Speaker 8: I'll tell you this though. You know you mentioned about
Speaker 8: Muhammad as a run defender and all that. The guy's
Speaker 8: got some explosive quickness with the Indianapolis colch. You can
Speaker 8: watch him the way that he gets up the field
Speaker 8: and then is able to redirect to see him like.
Speaker 7: Squeeze the whole a little bit better in the run
Speaker 7: game stuff.
Speaker 8: But when you start to talk about the pass russ skill,
Speaker 8: the moves, the hand stuff and all that kind of
Speaker 8: a guy that's got a little bit of both when
Speaker 8: it comes to the run defending stuff and then also
Speaker 8: the pass rush.
Speaker 7: Also took a peek at you mentioned Hollins.
Speaker 8: I watched him he was Green Bay and then Chargers
Speaker 8: late in the year, and this guy is like a
Speaker 8: long range gem when we talked about long those tall, linear,
Speaker 8: long armed guys, he played his a little bit of
Speaker 8: a stand up beds. So what happens was he was
Speaker 8: on two teams where he played on odd man fronts
Speaker 8: where it was three four front where it wasn't hand down,
Speaker 8: it was stand up and rush. But I'll tell you
Speaker 8: what thing this guy he plays off the blocks. He's
Speaker 8: really good with an extension. He could dip the corner
Speaker 8: pretty well. I think he needs a little bit more
Speaker 8: power kind of when handling those rushes. But the chase,
Speaker 8: all those things about that, They've got some guys here
Speaker 8: that they brought in that kind of we were talking about,
Speaker 8: how does it fill in for Sam Williams. Potentially you're
Speaker 8: probably not going to replace Sam Williams, But can you
Speaker 8: get some of the traits that he had, the length,
Speaker 8: the ability to get around the corner, the quickness, the
Speaker 8: ability to maybe make a tackle or too in the
Speaker 8: run game, and stuff like that. So they've got some
Speaker 8: guys that they're bringing in at least they're going to
Speaker 8: take a look at. I feel like kind of fit
Speaker 8: the bill of what they're trying to do in their scheme.
Speaker 6: That being said, I'd love you guys to give me
Speaker 6: a name of one of these guys. You would say,
Speaker 6: if you had to choose, which one, based on what
Speaker 6: you've seen, best fits that role of giving you something,
Speaker 6: maybe a little, not everything, but some of what you
Speaker 6: miss now without Sam Sam Williams.
Speaker 7: I would go with Hollins myself.
Speaker 8: I just think that he's more like how he's built,
Speaker 8: that he fits the eye of what I've seen now.
Speaker 7: I will say this.
Speaker 8: Tony is an interesting cat because you could watch him
Speaker 8: play a ton of Special Team Eames, so he kind
Speaker 8: of fits that role. He was stand up guy with
Speaker 8: the commanders, but he was hand down with the commanders.
Speaker 8: He's another guy that's got that little bit of that
Speaker 8: explosiveness off the edge. It could close down pretty well,
Speaker 8: he chases the ball.
Speaker 7: Well I was.
Speaker 8: I just you know, if you're saying, okay, you want
Speaker 8: what type of guy do you want? You want a
Speaker 8: guy that can come in and potentially rush and give
Speaker 8: you something like what Sam Williams was doing. How did
Speaker 8: Sam Williams get injured? They were doing special team drills
Speaker 8: and things like that. So I think Tony might be
Speaker 8: that guy. But if the guy that fits my eye,
Speaker 8: I would go. I would go with Hollins. I know
Speaker 8: everybody wants Carl Lawson. I think I would go a
Speaker 8: little bit different route there. For me personally, I like
Speaker 8: Carl Lawson. But man, these other guys that they were
Speaker 8: looking at, or that I was looking at today, I thought,
Speaker 8: maybe a little bit more explosive with their rush, a
Speaker 8: little bit more explosive getting around the corner, and maybe
Speaker 8: a little bit of younger players involved as well.
Speaker 3: You factor money into that as well as it from
Speaker 3: a pure scouting.
Speaker 7: And I never worry about them. Okay, you know that
Speaker 7: somebody else's problem.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm just the man asked me. My man
Speaker 8: asked me who I would bring in here? You know
Speaker 8: what I told you, who I would bring in here?
Speaker 4: Scout you die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do.
Speaker 8: Last time they asked me that in two thousand and five,
Speaker 8: they said, we don't want to ask you that anymore.
Speaker 8: They sent me on my way, you know. So yeah, no,
Speaker 8: I think you're right about with Loss. But maybe Loss
Speaker 8: is in a situation where he wants to get into
Speaker 8: a camp. I know these others are guys that, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, Hollins has played played last year.
Speaker 7: Tony was a guy that sat out all last year.
Speaker 8: So I think there's some guys that are anxious to
Speaker 8: get and maybe it fits into the the budget to what.
Speaker 7: They're they're doing with me.
Speaker 9: And this is a boring answer, but with Loss.
Speaker 7: And I look more at you want the veteran cat.
Speaker 9: Does the experience, who has some more the most sacked.
Speaker 7: Don't make so much sense. Don't do that.
Speaker 9: The thing is, Brian, you know with these younger guys,
Speaker 9: you're wanting them to step up with know that the
Speaker 9: linebacker position, uh, that's you're dealing with that on its own.
Speaker 9: Then you talk about defensive end, you don't want an
Speaker 9: extra problem happening there. So you really have different areas
Speaker 9: that you're having to work with youth and younger players.
Speaker 9: So if I can have a veteran guy that can
Speaker 9: come in here and just kind of do his thing,
Speaker 9: adjust how he can just follow my zimmer and his
Speaker 9: scheme and all of that, then that's what I'm taking
Speaker 9: at this point. Beggars can be choosers, so I'm going
Speaker 9: with the guy with the most.
Speaker 6: Well, here's the other question, though, A guy like he'll
Speaker 6: throw out a guy like Tyros s Wheet, who I
Speaker 6: think flashed out here last year. He's at some moments
Speaker 6: where you're like, God, it's got a little something. Are
Speaker 6: any of these guys necessarily better than what you project?
Speaker 4: Tyris Wheet can be if given the opportunity.
Speaker 7: What did you see you, Tyros Sweet coming out of college?
Speaker 5: I didn't do a whole lot of studying on coming
Speaker 5: out of college, I'll say that. But as far as
Speaker 5: his rookie season, very interesting to see how they continue
Speaker 5: to use him in the micro Simmer system because dan
Speaker 5: Quinn had him working with a linebacker.
Speaker 7: Right, he's more of an edge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's more of an edge Okay.
Speaker 6: But but to be fair, Sam Williams to me seemed
Speaker 6: like more of that kind of guy too, where he's
Speaker 6: just like a he just go get the quarterback.
Speaker 4: I don't know he was great in run defense. He
Speaker 4: wasn't that guy, right, I.
Speaker 7: Think I think that it's gonna sound strange.
Speaker 8: I think that Carl Lawson is probably a better run defender.
Speaker 7: Sam Williams better.
Speaker 8: Pass rush, right, Yeah, Carl Lawson better run defender. So yeah,
Speaker 8: if you're if you're thinking about, okay, well man, we've
Speaker 8: got to stop the run, we've got it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: Everybody's so conscious of that now, you know, don't forget
Speaker 8: they throw the ball in this league, you know, and
Speaker 8: you got you gotta be able to get some pass rush. So,
Speaker 8: like I say, I was trying to find some guys,
Speaker 8: and I think they are too of guys that had
Speaker 8: those trades. Can they play the run? Can they can they?
Speaker 8: Can we get a guy that's got a little bit
Speaker 8: of a combination both. Ambar's right about Carl Lawson, veteran guy,
Speaker 8: pass rusher, play the run. Well, that's a good fit.
Speaker 8: But but the thing with Weed, I just remember having
Speaker 8: him in college was rush, the passer rush, the passer rush,
Speaker 8: the passer guy, you know, And I think there's some
Speaker 8: times out here when you see that, you know, but
Speaker 8: you would like to see it to where it's not
Speaker 8: won every four snaps or five snaps. Yes, you know,
Speaker 8: it's more of a consistent thing.
Speaker 5: I would I'd love to know what the philosophy conversation
Speaker 5: was whenever Sam Williams went down. Was it, hey, we
Speaker 5: need to get a guy who can come in and
Speaker 5: still help in the run defense. We still need help
Speaker 5: in that department. Or was it a conversation where I
Speaker 5: was like, hey, we've lost two pass rushers and Dorance
Speaker 5: Armstrong and Dante Fowler. Now Sam, we need to add
Speaker 5: a guy who has a pass rush specialty. So I
Speaker 5: would have loved to understand the philosophy conversation, the want
Speaker 5: into bringing these four guys.
Speaker 7: He told me this, Marshawn Kneeling can played run defense.
Speaker 3: Oh one thousand percent.
Speaker 8: I trusted you, and I think they're doing the same thing.
Speaker 8: I think that they're saying, you know what, we lost
Speaker 8: Sam will We lost Sam here, but this gives us
Speaker 8: an opportunity to play Neelan a little bit more here,
Speaker 8: give him a little bit more. Monoppert.
Speaker 7: He can't play the run.
Speaker 8: You see him out there playing the run, So to me,
Speaker 8: it softens the blow.
Speaker 7: I hate losing Sam.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say this though, and anybody on this panel
Speaker 8: that didn't have questions about Sam Williams going into this sale,
Speaker 8: you know, we were all kind of like, man, if
Speaker 8: Sam could do it, Sam can step up. Boy, they're
Speaker 8: gonna be a lot.
Speaker 7: Better at end.
Speaker 8: They're going to be, you know, and there are a
Speaker 8: lot of questions, and you still have questions now, but
Speaker 8: he's no longer here. But Neil and I think softens
Speaker 8: the blow a little bit for me because you are
Speaker 8: seeing some traits of his ability. I'm seeing a little
Speaker 8: pass rush out of him, which I didn't think he had.
Speaker 8: And when we interviewed Will McClay one oh five three,
Speaker 8: the fan, Will was like, man, he's showing some things
Speaker 8: that we didn't think. I'm like, yeah, he could get
Speaker 8: off the ball like a pass rusher. He's got a
Speaker 8: little bit of a burst to him, you know, And
Speaker 8: so he's worked with somebody to get him a little
Speaker 8: bit quicker.
Speaker 3: Off the ball.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: One thing I say about Sam Williams, I actually had
Speaker 6: no doubt that Sam Williams could fill the deficit of
Speaker 6: the number of sacks, and once Armstrong had I really
Speaker 6: didn't What I didn't know was how many pilmalies that
Speaker 6: are costly are gonna come with those eight sacks Like
Speaker 6: that's what you And honestly, that's what we all have
Speaker 6: seen from Sam. Like Sam, Sam was a player. Sam
Speaker 6: can play football, He can go get the quarterback. The
Speaker 6: question is he always going to make the smart play? Yeah,
Speaker 6: And I think that's what this year was going to
Speaker 6: be about for me with Sam is has he learned
Speaker 6: how to be able to play a little bit more
Speaker 6: controlled so he doesn't end up with the bad play
Speaker 6: that goes with the good player and negates the good play.
Speaker 6: But I think that's the part where now Marshawn Neeland
Speaker 6: as a as a rookie, can he replace that that production,
Speaker 6: Like somebody's got to replace that production because you want
Speaker 6: them going to get the quarterback.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm a little bit more concerned.
Speaker 8: You guys all remember David Irving, right, Yes, we did,
Speaker 8: of course we do.
Speaker 3: Those are good days, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Remember, Yeah, that was that was strange, David said planning
Speaker 8: We're still in the law commercial, but it's kind of
Speaker 8: fitting for both. But the thing with David Irving, though,
Speaker 8: remember how it was it was some of the like.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, yeah.
Speaker 8: NFC Player of the Week. He was played twelve plays.
Speaker 8: He had like four sacks to cause fumbles. Sam Williams
Speaker 8: is capable of doing the same things. But Sam Williams
Speaker 8: was also capable of the David Irving like jumping off sides,
Speaker 8: hands in the face, you know, hitting the quarterback late.
Speaker 8: You know that's what you were gonna get with Sam
Speaker 8: and David Irving as well.
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Speaker 6: We'll get some practice observations here with these guys. Think
Speaker 6: of the first two days in Pats. We'll do that
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Speaker 6: practice observations. What did you guys see over the first
Speaker 6: two days of padded practices. Let's go down the line.
Speaker 6: Tell me what you saw. Give me one observation, and
Speaker 6: let's start with you.
Speaker 9: Okay, I have a lot of people who have been
Speaker 9: asking me, and I've seen people asking questions about Dak Prescott,
Speaker 9: and I know that's a simple, you know, simple observation here.
Speaker 9: But so far, he's looked really good everything that he's made.
Speaker 9: I mean, there have been a couple of mistake mistakes
Speaker 9: here and there, but I remember the time where he
Speaker 9: would practice horribly and we would talk about it and
Speaker 9: criticize him, and then oh, well, when the lights come on,
Speaker 9: he shows up. So I started thinking, I'm like, man, Okay,
Speaker 9: every year he has improved something in his game in
Speaker 9: his career, He's improved every single year. Last year, it
Speaker 9: was the whole conversation with was he going to be
Speaker 9: able to improve the interceptions or not he did. Then
Speaker 9: before that it was like, okay, he throw down the
Speaker 9: field he did, can he run with them? He has?
Speaker 9: So he led me to thinking what is it this
Speaker 9: season that we are exactly looking for for him to
Speaker 9: like improve this year? And I can't really think of
Speaker 9: anything specifically other than finishing games the way that it
Speaker 9: needs to be finished. So question for you guys, if
Speaker 9: you had to pinpoint something that he needs to improve
Speaker 9: at this camp the season, what would that be?
Speaker 5: I would say pushing the ball down field on a
Speaker 5: consistent basis. I really loved what they did with the
Speaker 5: offense last year as far as getting a lot lot
Speaker 5: of guys open in space in the five, ten, fifteen
Speaker 5: yard radiuses. I want to see him push the ball
Speaker 5: downfield a CD even more. And not to say that
Speaker 5: they didn't do it last year. They had the longest
Speaker 5: play in the NFL last season, but I would like
Speaker 5: to see that more on a consistent basis. And I
Speaker 5: think Janallen Tolbert kind of coming into his own as
Speaker 5: a possession guy even I think there's going to be
Speaker 5: more opportunities to be able to do that.
Speaker 3: You saw him also improve that footwork.
Speaker 5: Last year, I think that still needs to take another
Speaker 5: step as far as him in the pocket being able
Speaker 5: to work some things, see athleticism, getting out of the pocket.
Speaker 5: There's always things to improve in those little nuances. So
Speaker 5: those are the two things I'm really looking for when it.
Speaker 3: Comes to dec Breas.
Speaker 6: One thing I'll kind of question you on a little
Speaker 6: bit is when you talk about throwing the ball downfield.
Speaker 4: I think they threw the ball.
Speaker 6: Downfield pretty decent amount of times. I don't think it
Speaker 6: was a problem for me. Where I would see that
Speaker 6: is I want to see them, and this is more
Speaker 6: a coaching thing than a DAK thing, create some opportunities
Speaker 6: to go downfield, to turpen and to cooks. There were
Speaker 6: number of times last time last year when I did
Speaker 6: see both those guys open downfield and it wasn't like
Speaker 6: there was some time I think they thought they should
Speaker 6: have attacked more downfield with those guys and they didn't.
Speaker 6: There were other times I saw when they would and
Speaker 6: the ball didn't necessarily go to them. So maybe it's
Speaker 6: a concerted effort between the offensive coaches and DAK, but
Speaker 6: I think really getting some opportunities with those two guys
Speaker 6: is even more important because that's the speed of your
Speaker 6: of your offense. That's where you got those game breakers
Speaker 6: that can quickly get you a score and get or
Speaker 6: get you downfield really quickly.
Speaker 4: I think that's where I'd like to see a little bit.
Speaker 5: You saw it in the San Francisco game whenever they
Speaker 5: really needed that score in the first half they go
Speaker 5: to Turpen. It was about a thirty thirty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. There you
Speaker 5: have those speed weapons, get them the ball out in space,
Speaker 5: whether that be in the short gardage. You're also downfield
Speaker 5: you can push the push the push, the top open
Speaker 5: on them. But it was specifically in the first ten
Speaker 5: games of the season last year, you saw so much
Speaker 5: action right between the hashes. I want to see a
Speaker 5: little bit more on the outside down. So you're saying
Speaker 5: downfield perimeter, Yeah, okay, downfield perimeter more so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they kind of goes to your point what you're
Speaker 8: talking about. It's like they're playing under center more, you know.
Speaker 8: And Dak is a we've seen Dak play shotguns. So
Speaker 8: mucher meets heavy play action game and all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: heavy play action game means turn your back to the
Speaker 8: defense and make a throw. You saw Trey Lance throw
Speaker 8: an interception off heavy play action and then spin to
Speaker 8: try and find the receiver and it end up being
Speaker 8: an interception.
Speaker 7: Down the red zone.
Speaker 8: So with Dak and all that though, getting more comfortable
Speaker 8: with that being under center and then making it if
Speaker 8: it's the heavy fakes, and then coming back and being
Speaker 8: accurate with your throws, because that's something that looks like
Speaker 8: to me they're going to try and incorporate more in
Speaker 8: their running game. Is or they're try to get the
Speaker 8: running game going maybe that way, but if they can't.
Speaker 8: If they can get the running game going, now, now
Speaker 8: you see the heavy play action stuff. So Dak fake,
Speaker 8: turn your back, come back, be accurate with the throw
Speaker 8: wherever it is in the secondary.
Speaker 6: So let me ask you this question, Brian, have you
Speaker 6: seen a situation in your experience in the NFL where
Speaker 6: you could get a good heavy play action game working
Speaker 6: when you don't have a game breaking run.
Speaker 8: Sometimes, Yeah, sometimes you can fool these these linebackers.
Speaker 7: You could get him a step up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just because just because it might come just.
Speaker 8: Because you're taught the reeds. Just because you're taught like, okay,
Speaker 8: they're going to run the way.
Speaker 7: Even teams that don't.
Speaker 8: Run the ball particularly well but still use play action
Speaker 8: somehow get defenders to step up, and then all of
Speaker 8: a sudden you get linebackers to step up, and that
Speaker 8: creates those seams between the safeties and then with the
Speaker 8: linebackers and where they are, and that's where the quick throws.
Speaker 8: But yesterday, like I said, we saw with Trey Lance,
Speaker 8: heavy play action, you know, and then they got the receiver,
Speaker 8: got the receiver coming off the backside there it was
Speaker 8: who was it that came from the backside there? Oh,
Speaker 8: where'd my guy go? Crooms and Creams was coming and
Speaker 8: Croams was kind of you could see the Creams was like, damn,
Speaker 8: you gotta get me the ball man, you know. But
Speaker 8: so if you're gonna do that, it's gonna be the
Speaker 8: fake and you gotta take advantage. But Bell was sitting
Speaker 8: right there. So anything like that, where do we get
Speaker 8: disappointed with Dak at times? The interceptions where he doesn't
Speaker 8: see the drop defense. So if you go heavy under
Speaker 8: center and then you go play action, make sure that
Speaker 8: those throws you see everybody that's in the drop areas
Speaker 8: and make sure that doesn't turn into a turnover.
Speaker 4: All right, Nick, give me an observation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, first two days and Pads, I had my eyes
Speaker 5: on the trenches, I know, me and Brian spent a
Speaker 5: little bit of time watching individual drills down there too.
Speaker 5: But Tyler Guiden looks really strong in these first two
Speaker 5: days as well as brock Hoffman. So if you're looking
Speaker 5: at these two battles on the offensive line at left
Speaker 5: tackle and center, those are the obviously the two leaders
Speaker 5: in the clubhouse for me right now, I'll start with Guiden.
Speaker 5: I think tempered expectations are probably realistic and healthy going
Speaker 5: into this camp when it comes to Tyler Guiden and.
Speaker 7: I've come on Mandy no, no, I know.
Speaker 5: And I kind of teetered with this on Twitter a
Speaker 5: little bit too, and fans were like, hey, we have
Speaker 5: nothing to be excited about. Let us be excited about this,
Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, you can be excited about it.
Speaker 5: I want you to be, but also don't be down
Speaker 5: in the dumps when he has a bad day, because
Speaker 5: that will come. It's fourteen of experience that he has
Speaker 5: that he's bringing into the NFL. Those lulls will come again.
Speaker 5: That's not a knock on Tyler Guydon. Personally, I think
Speaker 5: he's gonna be a great pro. But I think if
Speaker 5: we look up a year or two years from now,
Speaker 5: we'll look at the first round picks, he's probably somewhere
Speaker 5: in the middle. But I think when we look four
Speaker 5: or five years down the line, when we'll start talking
Speaker 5: about those fifth year options, he's gonna be one of
Speaker 5: the better picks in the first round. In my opinion,
Speaker 5: I think it's just gonna take reps, it's gonna take development.
Speaker 5: I mean, there are some some fans that are saying, hey,
Speaker 5: we don't even want to see him week one. I
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you want to see him week one.
Speaker 5: You want to see him go against Miles Garrett. If
Speaker 5: he gets his butt whooped, he gets his butt whooped him,
Speaker 5: that's a really good that's a really good learning lesson
Speaker 5: for him. But these first two days in pads have
Speaker 5: been great for Tyler Guiden. It reminded me very similar
Speaker 5: to what he did the first day at the Senior
Speaker 5: Bowl up in Mobile just six months ago. It was
Speaker 5: actually six months to the day from the first padded
Speaker 5: practice to that first day in Mobile, and then that
Speaker 5: second day in Mobile would have you would have been
Speaker 5: surprised to see him go in the first round. So
Speaker 5: he's gonna have the ups, he's gonna have the downs.
Speaker 5: He's new to the left tackle position. Yes, he's used
Speaker 5: to protecting the blindside of the quarterback. He understands the
Speaker 5: depth of pocket that he needs to create. He understands
Speaker 5: the athleticism factor of that. But also there's still gonna
Speaker 5: be some things that he has to work on as
Speaker 5: far as mirroring his technique to the left side and
Speaker 5: accounting for guys like Michael Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, Marshawn Neeland.
Speaker 3: Those lulls will come, and.
Speaker 5: Then brock Hoffman, I think he is leaps and bounds
Speaker 5: above where the rest of the center competition is.
Speaker 9: Right, he's been expect him to be as good as
Speaker 9: he has been.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm starting to get to the point to where
Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if he's not the Week one starter.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put a claim on anything yet because
Speaker 5: we haven't seen anything in preseason games yet. Those games
Speaker 5: obviously weigh so much more than what's going on out here.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Hoffman is clearly taking a step forward.
Speaker 3: BB. You could tell that he's starting to pick up.
Speaker 5: On what's going on at the center position, but those
Speaker 5: snaps are arrant right now, and he's gonna have to
Speaker 5: He's gonna have to get those shotgun snaps in check.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question on Hoffman and you
Speaker 6: all can chime in on this.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 6: I was particularly the video that I saw a couple
Speaker 6: of people putting out there on Hoffman. It was a
Speaker 6: play with or Mazzi, and I think you mentioned something
Speaker 6: about it, and you and I kind of talked a
Speaker 6: little bit about it on Twitter. But Hoffman basically got
Speaker 6: pushed right back. Mazi just kind of bull rushed him
Speaker 6: right back toward the quarterback Hoffman did.
Speaker 4: Then Anchor settled in and he didn't like.
Speaker 6: He didn't end up in the quarterback slap. That being said,
Speaker 6: are there any concerns from the standpoint of the strength
Speaker 6: of someone like Hoffman when it comes to playing the
Speaker 6: center position, Because one thing we know when we saw this,
Speaker 6: you know in the past with centers that were you
Speaker 6: know at that position that there are times when you
Speaker 6: will have to face in this league some defensive tackles
Speaker 6: who are just big and yeah, just powerful men who
Speaker 6: will push you back are there any concerns with his strength?
Speaker 4: From that standpoint, I.
Speaker 5: Think he's gonna have his learning moments this year for
Speaker 5: sure when it comes to that. Like you said, this division,
Speaker 5: it's not forgiving that it comes to that defensive tackle position.
Speaker 5: He is still a third year undrafted free agent who
Speaker 5: got cut in his very first spot, but he has
Speaker 5: taken those steps forward to being a projected starter at
Speaker 5: least at this point. When it comes from a strength perspective,
Speaker 5: that is something he has been focusing a ton on
Speaker 5: this offseason.
Speaker 3: He's been one of the few.
Speaker 5: Guys that has been in the weight room every single
Speaker 5: day as far as trying to get stronger, trying to
Speaker 5: perfect his technique. When it comes to guys that are
Speaker 5: he knows are stronger than him, He's going to have
Speaker 5: a guy across the line at some point that's going
Speaker 5: to be twenty thirty pounds maybe heavier than him. How
Speaker 5: is he going to account for that and this that
Speaker 5: anchor and that's really important for him to show. And
Speaker 5: I think maybe that's what you didn't see at times
Speaker 5: from Tyler Biattish, and that's probably why the question is present,
Speaker 5: is sometimes he got overwhelmed when it came from a
Speaker 5: strength perspective. Yes he has the technique and yes there's that,
Speaker 5: but when a guy is just simply stronger than him,
Speaker 5: how can he account for that. I've seen it with
Speaker 5: brock Kaffman a couple of times, because you saw it
Speaker 5: and practice a couple of times. This time last year
Speaker 5: was Jonathan Hankins, and that's what made me stand out.
Speaker 5: That's what made brock Kaffman stand out initially to me
Speaker 5: this time last year was he was able to keep
Speaker 5: Hankins in check knowing that that guy had the thirty
Speaker 5: pounds on him at that time. So I trust brock
Speaker 5: Kaffman in a strength perspective, but I think it's gonna
Speaker 5: come with its losses as well.
Speaker 3: It's gonna come with its learning moments.
Speaker 8: First, if want to apologize for my wet blanket colleague
Speaker 8: here that I'm working.
Speaker 3: With today, my bad.
Speaker 7: He didn't take me down.
Speaker 4: I was actually want to people. I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I love and then I read his sweet and I
Speaker 4: was like, I felt.
Speaker 7: Like he was talking about the Texas Rangers on our broadcast. Everybody.
Speaker 8: But I'll say this though, and you know he's You're
Speaker 8: absolutely right. I'm just having fun with you there. The thing,
Speaker 8: I'll tell you this where I was I was wrong
Speaker 8: about going into this.
Speaker 7: The learning curve for Cooper.
Speaker 8: Bebe is deeper than I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 8: And the reason and you're thinking plug and play. He's
Speaker 8: always played tackle, he's played guard, he can play center.
Speaker 8: He hasn't played center in a while, and now it's
Speaker 8: having to relearn how.
Speaker 7: To snap, how to make the shotgun snap.
Speaker 8: You don't realize how hard it is. And I played
Speaker 8: the position though a long long time ago. To snap,
Speaker 8: to step, to hand placement, to make calls, all those things.
Speaker 8: Cooper Beb is clearly able to do that. Brock Kaufman
Speaker 8: has played at times very very well out here. You know,
Speaker 8: there's no question. You know, Mike Salari, the line coach,
Speaker 8: is like, oh, let's not forget. And we were even
Speaker 8: on the draft coverage, Well, let's not forget brock Kaufman here.
Speaker 8: You know, we're all like a Cooper baby, Cooper B.
Speaker 8: You know, we're jumping up and down talking about that,
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden it's like, you know, Mike
Speaker 8: Solry is like, now.
Speaker 7: We got this brock kauffmin you know, so I.
Speaker 8: Think they kind of understood that maybe there was going
Speaker 8: to be a little bit of a learning curve here.
Speaker 8: It is pretty deep right now, and you know, and
Speaker 8: that's and that's the thing he's dealing with. Could in
Speaker 8: the next three weeks and two three preseason games, could
Speaker 8: that be different. I think we are looking at brock
Speaker 8: hoff And starting at center against the against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 8: If I had to right now say what they were
Speaker 8: going to do, yeah, it's going to be brock Hoffin
Speaker 8: starting at center.
Speaker 5: And I think an interesting conversation that might be more
Speaker 5: appropriate down the line whenever these things get finalized, is
Speaker 5: if Cooper BB does not win that center.
Speaker 8: Position, we's got to go win it now. I mean
Speaker 8: it's not it's not plug and play. Hey, we've drafted you,
Speaker 8: let's go. Yeah, It's it's like, no, we've got a
Speaker 8: guy that's he you know, brock Hoffins not falling down
Speaker 8: out here.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's he's doing his job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if BB doesn't win that center spot, where does
Speaker 5: he kind of go as far as what his role
Speaker 5: will be moving forward? And he could be a legitimate
Speaker 5: guy that you rotate in in the interior offensive line.
Speaker 3: Injury that happens, But you also have TJ. Bass there.
Speaker 5: See, we've talked about Zach Martin potentially he's he's teered
Speaker 5: with the with the idea of retirement.
Speaker 3: He's talked about it a couple of times this offseason.
Speaker 5: If he were to sign a one year deal to
Speaker 5: come back for another season, or a two year deal
Speaker 5: to come back for a couple of more seasons. Again,
Speaker 5: where are you going to start factoring in Cooper BB
Speaker 5: And then you look up again, this is probably way
Speaker 5: more appropriate down the line. I'm just kind of thinking
Speaker 5: on it is do you maybe wish he took that
Speaker 5: running back in the third round looking back on it?
Speaker 7: But yeah, where were you and I needed you on
Speaker 7: that night? Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Hey, hey Cooper bb ye, And I'm like, man, there's
Speaker 8: this running back at USC.
Speaker 7: We need to talk.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but no, you're you know, you're absolutely right because
Speaker 8: I think if they had to play right now, if
Speaker 8: something and if something would happen to the interior, I
Speaker 8: think TJ. Bass is our guy. I don't think it's
Speaker 8: I don't think it's Cooper b B. I think you
Speaker 8: know what they need to do is they need to
Speaker 8: keep Cooper BB playing playing center. Just keep keeping keep
Speaker 8: playing center, Bass, even though Bass there was a couple
Speaker 8: of times yesterday guy, uh, you know, our our defensive
Speaker 8: tackle Rogers got him a little bit yesterday and so
Speaker 8: on a on, a couple of moves and stuff.
Speaker 7: So I was kind of like, Okay, this is.
Speaker 8: All right, but I just keep Cooper bb at center
Speaker 8: and then, you know, Bass, let him be that veteran guy.
Speaker 8: A veteran, he's a second year guy, basically the to
Speaker 8: be that guy that if they had something to go
Speaker 8: on at either guard spot, he'd be the fill in guy.
Speaker 3: Tell you what you mentioned, Justin Rodgers, keep an eye
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 7: I tell you what Justin ron I this is. And
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 8: And again I go down there at the defensive tackle
Speaker 8: spot every single day. I spend the first hour practice
Speaker 8: going down there and watching Chef Sigin and those guys
Speaker 8: work down there, and I'm trying to kind of figure
Speaker 8: out what are they teaching, Mozzie, What are they teaching
Speaker 8: the defensive tackles, what do they There are things that
Speaker 8: that that Rogers is doing. There are things that Rogers
Speaker 8: is doing. Do you get a little rain on you
Speaker 8: there or something?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 9: I keep seeing random rain drops fall, but I guess
Speaker 9: it's the tree coming from.
Speaker 8: But the the thing with Rogers, as you mentioned, there's
Speaker 8: some things he's doing with his.
Speaker 7: Hands and control and movement, and.
Speaker 8: You're like going, man, if we were if Mozzie was
Speaker 8: doing this right now, we'd be we'd be throwing a parade,
Speaker 8: as I like to say, you know, And and they're trying.
Speaker 7: I mean, they are coaching him as hard.
Speaker 8: I mean, with Mazie it's going to be about it's
Speaker 8: either it's either going to succeed or it's gonna break him.
Speaker 8: That's that's how hard they're coaching him right now. And
Speaker 8: so but Rogers and those guys are picking things up
Speaker 8: down there, they really are.
Speaker 3: Scanina's been tearing into Mazzi a few times.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know what, like I said, he you
Speaker 8: know there he's asking him to do it his way.
Speaker 7: He's you know, it's it's step hands up up, not out.
Speaker 7: And then there's a f bomb in there.
Speaker 9: Doing it very nicely.
Speaker 7: But that's how that's how.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: And it's and it's not like it's like again Mazzy
Speaker 8: again again. I mean, it's like five reps in a row,
Speaker 8: and they're trying. I mean, and Mazzi is try, I mean,
Speaker 8: but the others seem to be picking it up a
Speaker 8: little bit better and executing it a little better at
Speaker 8: this point than what you're getting with Mazzie right now.
Speaker 8: Strong guy, but man, they're they're trying so hard to
Speaker 8: work on his technique.
Speaker 4: Feet, hands are We're gonna take our final break. We'll
Speaker 4: come back.
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Speaker 6: with that. I have a couple of more questions for
Speaker 6: you guys on the offensive line walls to try to
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Speaker 6: offensive lineman. A name that hasn't come up yet for
Speaker 6: us on our show this year, but I think is
Speaker 6: very important to Cowboys fans or should be, is Terrence Steele.
Speaker 6: He's a guy that has shown, you know, really good
Speaker 6: things throughout his career here with the Cowboys. One of
Speaker 6: those guys that came from being an underdog to being
Speaker 6: a starter and performing well and then had the injury
Speaker 6: and last year kind of inconsistent results. What have you
Speaker 6: guys seen from him so far this year at camp?
Speaker 7: I'll tell you.
Speaker 8: Two days ago, I got stuck on the VIP side
Speaker 8: of the field, so it was all about watching left
Speaker 8: tackle play, which was okay because Geiton was over here
Speaker 8: being left tackle guy. So yesterday I made it a
Speaker 8: point to work my way around and watch a little
Speaker 8: bit more. And then when they were doing the Mojo moment,
Speaker 8: you know, the two point plays, we got to see
Speaker 8: the tackle, you know. On our site going the other way,
Speaker 8: so got to see him a little bit. I think
Speaker 8: he's moving around a little bit better than last year.
Speaker 8: I think he looks a little bit more confident in
Speaker 8: what's going now. You watch him and having to deal
Speaker 8: with parsons, and parsons is a pain in the ass
Speaker 8: to deal with, especially when it's like it's the you know,
Speaker 8: it's the big mojo moment. We got to get a
Speaker 8: stop kind of thing, because he is going to he's
Speaker 8: going to go flying down inside and you're gonna have
Speaker 8: to try and cut him off, and he's just gonna
Speaker 8: be powerful and he's gonna overpower you. But I think
Speaker 8: the movement, the pass sets the things that have been watching,
Speaker 8: like in the one on one stuff, he looks comfortably.
Speaker 7: He looks like he's back to a little bit of
Speaker 7: his old self with the.
Speaker 8: Way that his hands and his feet kind of work together.
Speaker 8: Though I don't think he's ever gonna be a really
Speaker 8: really strong guy, but I think the athletic ability is
Speaker 8: always going to be his calling card, and that looks
Speaker 8: like it's coming back to him.
Speaker 5: You are starting to see what a full offseason can
Speaker 5: do for him now. I mean, there was enough trust
Speaker 5: in him last year coming off that ACL injury to
Speaker 5: give him that five year, eighty two and a half
Speaker 5: million dollar contract, and.
Speaker 3: In the back half of the season.
Speaker 5: I'd put those last six games of the season that
Speaker 5: Terrence Steel puts together, I'd put that up with any
Speaker 5: six games he's had in his career. Like, I feel
Speaker 5: really strongly about how he finished the season, even though
Speaker 5: he started it really rough. He really had to find
Speaker 5: his footing whenever he was making his way back from
Speaker 5: that ACL injury. But I think coming in this year,
Speaker 5: you see that full off season, you see that comp
Speaker 5: and that he was able to build again. It's gonna
Speaker 5: be seeing it in pads and seeing it a little
Speaker 5: bit more as time goes on.
Speaker 3: But so far, so good.
Speaker 5: As far as what I like from Terrence Steele, you
Speaker 5: have three trusted guys on that offensive line in my eyes,
Speaker 5: and Terrence Steel's one of them.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think not everyone is gonna be great, not
Speaker 9: everyone's gonna be bad. You're gonna have those guys that
Speaker 9: are gonna be your solid guys that they're just gonna
Speaker 9: be there. They're gonna do their job, and they're gonna
Speaker 9: have moments where they do get dominated and they lose
Speaker 9: the battle. But I think he's a solid guy. He's
Speaker 9: the least of my worries right now when you look
Speaker 9: at the rest of the team, even in the rest
Speaker 9: of the line. We've talked about the other guys, but
Speaker 9: I think he he looks like he's been I haven't
Speaker 9: noticed anything that gives me a whole lot to worry
Speaker 9: about and be like, man, we gotta find somebody else.
Speaker 9: And no, we got enough problems and he's not one
Speaker 9: of them.
Speaker 4: Problems all right, So lit'sten, Brian.
Speaker 6: We did need to still get to your observation, give
Speaker 6: us a camp observation that you've seen over the last
Speaker 6: days and Pats.
Speaker 8: You know what, when you watch Trey Lance thro the football,
Speaker 8: there's problems with him throwing the ball outside the numbers.
Speaker 8: At least then until yesterday's practice, I thought he threw
Speaker 8: the ball down the field better, but to the outside.
Speaker 8: So but the thing that I worry about Trey Lance,
Speaker 8: and we've seen three opportunities. Now, there was a time
Speaker 8: when they were running a team period. They were it's
Speaker 8: a two minute period. They were driving the field. This
Speaker 8: was with no pads, this was shells and they're coming
Speaker 8: down and it came down to the final play, and
Speaker 8: it's a quick it's quick scramble. Get everybody to the line,
Speaker 8: try and get everybody go in defense. Plasters there, guys,
Speaker 8: and now there's no time and he takes off running
Speaker 8: and he gets stopped. Lost opportunity, goal line situation. Here,
Speaker 8: what happens is heavy play action like I was talking about.
Speaker 8: They got, they got, they got. The creams coming across.
Speaker 8: He doesn't see creams, or he thinks he sees creams,
Speaker 8: but Bell standing right there makes the throw. Another red
Speaker 8: zone mistake. Then what happens yesterday? Two minute drill. They're
Speaker 8: driving down there, driving the ball, driving well, he gets
Speaker 8: them down, has an incompletion to the sidelines. Now they're
Speaker 8: down to their last play and here we are six seconds.
Speaker 7: What's the one thing you can't do?
Speaker 8: Can't hold the ball? Can't you got to get rid
Speaker 8: of the ball? Takes a snap, drops back, plays plays,
Speaker 8: developing clock runs out, no points. It's three times that
Speaker 8: we've seen Trey Lance in those red zone, tight red
Speaker 8: zone situations come up empty. You know, I think there's
Speaker 8: some things about him. I think it's all about the learning,
Speaker 8: the learning curve, the experience that he's getting out here.
Speaker 8: But if you said something it was like, Trey Lance
Speaker 8: is not accurate. Yeah, there's there's some truth to that,
Speaker 8: especially outside the numbers. But I thought he was better yesterday.
Speaker 8: But the thing that concerns me is three red zone trips,
Speaker 8: oh for three. Two of them were situations where he's
Speaker 8: got to be quicker with his decision making and make
Speaker 8: the throws. And then, like I say, the interception he
Speaker 8: just didn't see or Keith Bell, then they're going to
Speaker 8: have to look at him, maybe analyze a little bit
Speaker 8: more for him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as just being quicker that I think
Speaker 5: that could be probably an indictment on all of Trey
Speaker 5: Lance's game so far out here at camp. He's got
Speaker 5: to be quicker, he's got to be more decisive. You
Speaker 5: haven't quite seen that. And it was it was funny
Speaker 5: because you finally saw him build some confidence there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: on that two minute drive, had those three straight completions
Speaker 5: and it was three different receivers time Billie Johnson, Tlburt
Speaker 5: and Brooks and he gets down the field in a
Speaker 5: hurry and it's like, okay, okay, we're starting to see
Speaker 5: this confidence built, right, and then again that indecisive that
Speaker 5: shows up in the right zone. So preseason is obviously
Speaker 5: going to be the biggest opportunity for him. You know,
Speaker 5: he he could go out and have a huge preseason
Speaker 5: game and we forget all about this.
Speaker 3: But it's not trending that way. I'll say that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The interesting thing, we've seen that before with quarterbacks that
Speaker 6: out here they aren't as great.
Speaker 4: And then you get him over on the lights.
Speaker 6: I think that's a great example, like the lights and
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden.
Speaker 8: In preseason sixteen was one of I mean, he's stilling
Speaker 8: the ball, like you know, he's looks like Steve Young
Speaker 8: out there.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, so, and by the way, part of
Speaker 6: part of practice is kind of working through things that
Speaker 6: you kind of you're finding out can I make this throw?
Speaker 4: You're finding out did I make that reathrow?
Speaker 6: You're learning out here, so you don't want to put
Speaker 6: too much into it, but yeah you have to.
Speaker 8: Just like you say, I think everybody is making a
Speaker 8: big deal about his accuracy. I think that could get better.
Speaker 8: It's like you get down, like like Nick was talking about,
Speaker 8: you drive the ball, you're making positive plays, and all
Speaker 8: of a sudden, you have got to get rid of
Speaker 8: the ball here. If you don't see it, get rid
Speaker 8: of it. Let us fight for another play. You can't
Speaker 8: use up all six seconds down here, you know. And
Speaker 8: like you say, hey, they you know, after the interception,
Speaker 8: they you know, Brian Schottenheimer put Cooper Russian there, go yeah,
Speaker 8: go in there.
Speaker 9: It's because I was I was super excited when we
Speaker 9: got here. It's like, he has this. The way he
Speaker 9: carries himself would make you think that his plate is way.
Speaker 7: Better than He doesn't have a lot of experience.
Speaker 4: He really, he didn't have a lot coming into him.
Speaker 7: He really doesn't.
Speaker 8: And the more you dig into his background, the more
Speaker 8: you're like, going, he's only played that much, you know,
Speaker 8: So you're right, the everything every rep he gets out
Speaker 8: here is great, Every preseason snap he.
Speaker 7: Gets is great, you know.
Speaker 8: And you know, but that was the one thing when
Speaker 8: you're asking an observation, it's like, Okay, don't worry about
Speaker 8: the accuracy pert, because that can come what's going on
Speaker 8: down in the red zone. You have three trips down there,
Speaker 8: and you're expecting three three scores, and you have an
Speaker 8: interception and two plays where you run out of time.
Speaker 7: You know, it got to be a little bit more
Speaker 7: on there.
Speaker 4: All right, I appreciate you guys, Jonas.
Speaker 6: We'll be back on next Monday and we'll dive into
Speaker 6: all things happened this weekend. We got an interesting practice.
Speaker 6: We'll actually be streaming the practice live and so you
Speaker 6: have an opportunity to be able to check out some
Speaker 6: of practice, listen to some of them. Is that Sundays, Saturdaday. Saturday, Yeah, Saturday,
Speaker 6: our producer got me all switched around here.
Speaker 4: Saturday is Satday.
Speaker 6: Okay, good, So Saturday, and we'll have some of our
Speaker 6: analysts on. They'll be walking you through practice and what
Speaker 6: you're seeing out there.
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