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Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.800 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:36.480 with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.480 Season twenty, episode twelve of The Break. 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.160 We are live from Oxnard, California, were presented by LGLG 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.960 is the world's number one O lead TV brand for 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.000 eleven years in counting CEYLG dot Com forward slash O 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:53.200 lead EVO. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:54.920 Welcome to the show. We got a lot of. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:56.880 Their badass company. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.360 Wow, Yeah, with a badass name. I love the energy 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.560 this morning. Let's keep it going, Jo. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.440 We got a lot we're gonna talk about this morning. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.640 We've got cowboys are looking for a little defensive end help. Yeah, 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.520 we'll talk about that here in a second. We'll get 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.440 some practice notes and some observations from you guys from 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.360 what you've seen over the last couple of days of practice. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.039 The pads have come on, so it's a good time to. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.480 Observe what players have been showing up when now there's 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.640 a little bit more contact and then we got a 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.800 few storylines we're gonna hit. I want to talk a 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.520 little bit about some of the guys that are returning 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.679 from injury and what we've seen from them so far, 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.480 maybe even see if we have some time to get 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.240 into what has been a big achilles heel for this 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.800 defense at times over the last few years, stopping the run, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.880 and the players that are going to be most important 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.160 to fixing that going into the twenty twenty four season. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.880 So let's start first with defensive end. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.760 Help Nick, tell me a little bit about what the 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.520 guys that are bringing in this morning and bringing in 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:47.480 some guys for workouts. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.080 Yeah, bringing in four guys for workouts in the wake 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.000 of the Sam Williams injury, and honestly, according to kind 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.200 of the rumblings, this was even a position group if 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.600 they maybe are looking to address even before that injury, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.000 So now becomes even more important looking at these guys. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.680 But the name up top is Carl Lawson. You're probably 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.359 familiar with his productivity twenty seven career sacks and seventy 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:09.040 four games. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.320 A little bit more of a power guy, but he does. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.160 Have tools in his toolbag that kind of shows some 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.519 speed stuff and shows his athleticism around the edge too. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.120 I think he marries those two things really well. He 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:21.760 might cost you a. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.680 Little bit more than these other guys, but I think 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.640 if he comes out here and has a really good workout, 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.680 I think they could probably make something work. Shaka Tony, 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.320 a round seven pick for Washington back in twenty twenty one, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.560 was college teammates with Micah Parsons one and a half 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.680 career sacks in twenty six games. Only lasted two seasons 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.680 with the Commanders, and has kind of just found his 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.440 spot on some practice squad since then. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:43.840 Justin Hollins. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.000 He's a grat of Arlington Martin High School down in Arlington. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.480 Fifth round pick for Denver back in twenty nineteen, ten 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.880 and a half career sacks in sixty seven games. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.920 It's a little bit more experienced. 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.240 Than Tony, but productivity is still kind of rolling around 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.799 that same stratosphere. And then Quadeen Mohammad, a sixth round 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.960 pick out of New Orleans in twenty seventeen. He's been 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.800 out of the league since last year. He was out 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.320 of the league last year, but twelve career sacks in 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.840 eighty four games. What he brings you was he's his 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.360 productivity and stopping the run though, So I think if 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.160 they want a guy who can be that run stopper 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.840 around the edge, if they want another one that they 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.400 can pair with DeMarcus Lawrence and now Marshawn Neil and 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.880 the young guy than al Quade Mohammad, would be an 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.360 interesting addition for me. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.480 I'm interested to see if they add one or two. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.160 I think potentially adding to could be an option for them, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:29.919 just kind of depending on how the numbers worked out, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.800 and obviously the workouts themselves, but this is an interesting 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.000 crop of crop of guys. I think they'll be able 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.960 to kind of see who's who's the better one, and 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.440 we'll see who they sign at the end of the day. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.960 Well, you get your fastball working today. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:45.240 Yeah, appreciate it the sack appreciate it, right, No, no, man, absolutely, 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.440 I'll tell you this though. You know you mentioned about 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.640 Muhammad as a run defender and all that. The guy's 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.800 got some explosive quickness with the Indianapolis colch. You can 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.640 watch him the way that he gets up the field 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.720 and then is able to redirect to see him like. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.680 Squeeze the whole a little bit better in the run 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:03.320 game stuff. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.000 But when you start to talk about the pass russ skill, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.960 the moves, the hand stuff and all that kind of 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.119 a guy that's got a little bit of both when 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.360 it comes to the run defending stuff and then also 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:14.160 the pass rush. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:19.440 Also took a peek at you mentioned Hollins. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.000 I watched him he was Green Bay and then Chargers 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.560 late in the year, and this guy is like a 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.400 long range gem when we talked about long those tall, linear, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.160 long armed guys, he played his a little bit of 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.320 a stand up beds. So what happens was he was 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.040 on two teams where he played on odd man fronts 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.159 where it was three four front where it wasn't hand down, 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.840 it was stand up and rush. But I'll tell you 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.480 what thing this guy he plays off the blocks. He's 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.960 really good with an extension. He could dip the corner 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.640 pretty well. I think he needs a little bit more 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:57.520 power kind of when handling those rushes. But the chase, 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.040 all those things about that, They've got some guys here 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.719 that they brought in that kind of we were talking about, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.880 how does it fill in for Sam Williams. Potentially you're 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.840 probably not going to replace Sam Williams, But can you 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.360 get some of the traits that he had, the length, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.520 the ability to get around the corner, the quickness, the 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.480 ability to maybe make a tackle or too in the 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.160 run game, and stuff like that. So they've got some 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.240 guys that they're bringing in at least they're going to 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.000 take a look at. I feel like kind of fit 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.799 the bill of what they're trying to do in their scheme. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.719 That being said, I'd love you guys to give me 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.040 a name of one of these guys. You would say, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.240 if you had to choose, which one, based on what 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.640 you've seen, best fits that role of giving you something, 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.080 maybe a little, not everything, but some of what you 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.520 miss now without Sam Sam Williams. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.200 I would go with Hollins myself. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.839 I just think that he's more like how he's built, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.719 that he fits the eye of what I've seen now. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.080 I will say this. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.840 Tony is an interesting cat because you could watch him 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.159 play a ton of Special Team Eames, so he kind 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.120 of fits that role. He was stand up guy with 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.520 the commanders, but he was hand down with the commanders. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.479 He's another guy that's got that little bit of that 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.520 explosiveness off the edge. It could close down pretty well, 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.520 he chases the ball. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:15.400 Well I was. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.080 I just you know, if you're saying, okay, you want 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.719 what type of guy do you want? You want a 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.360 guy that can come in and potentially rush and give 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.840 you something like what Sam Williams was doing. How did 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.120 Sam Williams get injured? They were doing special team drills 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.760 and things like that. So I think Tony might be 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.279 that guy. But if the guy that fits my eye, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.520 I would go. I would go with Hollins. I know 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.560 everybody wants Carl Lawson. I think I would go a 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.919 little bit different route there. For me personally, I like 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.320 Carl Lawson. But man, these other guys that they were 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.640 looking at, or that I was looking at today, I thought, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.560 maybe a little bit more explosive with their rush, a 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.279 little bit more explosive getting around the corner, and maybe 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.520 a little bit of younger players involved as well. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.200 You factor money into that as well as it from 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.159 a pure scouting. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.400 And I never worry about them. Okay, you know that 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.320 somebody else's problem. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.560 You know, I'm just the man asked me. My man 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.280 asked me who I would bring in here? You know 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.640 what I told you, who I would bring in here? 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:13.880 Scout you die. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:14.560 Yeah, you do. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.080 Last time they asked me that in two thousand and five, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.080 they said, we don't want to ask you that anymore. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.920 They sent me on my way, you know. So yeah, no, 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.640 I think you're right about with Loss. But maybe Loss 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.720 is in a situation where he wants to get into 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.559 a camp. I know these others are guys that, uh, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.120 you know, Hollins has played played last year. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.480 Tony was a guy that sat out all last year. 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.520 So I think there's some guys that are anxious to 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.600 get and maybe it fits into the the budget to what. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.000 They're they're doing with me. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.600 And this is a boring answer, but with Loss. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.840 And I look more at you want the veteran cat. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.400 Does the experience, who has some more the most sacked. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.000 Don't make so much sense. Don't do that. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.880 The thing is, Brian, you know with these younger guys, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.840 you're wanting them to step up with know that the 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:05.680 linebacker position, uh, that's you're dealing with that on its own. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.600 Then you talk about defensive end, you don't want an 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.840 extra problem happening there. So you really have different areas 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:17.240 that you're having to work with youth and younger players. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.040 So if I can have a veteran guy that can 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.120 come in here and just kind of do his thing, 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.800 adjust how he can just follow my zimmer and his 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.680 scheme and all of that, then that's what I'm taking 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.520 at this point. Beggars can be choosers, so I'm going 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.560 with the guy with the most. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.520 Well, here's the other question, though, A guy like he'll 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.480 throw out a guy like Tyros s Wheet, who I 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.760 think flashed out here last year. He's at some moments 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.160 where you're like, God, it's got a little something. Are 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.320 any of these guys necessarily better than what you project? 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.720 Tyris Wheet can be if given the opportunity. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.960 What did you see you, Tyros Sweet coming out of college? 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.480 I didn't do a whole lot of studying on coming 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.000 out of college, I'll say that. But as far as 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.160 his rookie season, very interesting to see how they continue 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.079 to use him in the micro Simmer system because dan 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:04.640 Quinn had him working with a linebacker. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:06.160 Right, he's more of an edge. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:07.680 Yeah, but he's more of an edge Okay. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.000 But but to be fair, Sam Williams to me seemed 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.800 like more of that kind of guy too, where he's 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.600 just like a he just go get the quarterback. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.680 I don't know he was great in run defense. He 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.280 wasn't that guy, right, I. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.240 Think I think that it's gonna sound strange. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.439 I think that Carl Lawson is probably a better run defender. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:26.360 Sam Williams better. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:30.920 Pass rush, right, Yeah, Carl Lawson better run defender. So yeah, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.280 if you're if you're thinking about, okay, well man, we've 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.680 got to stop the run, we've got it. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:34.920 You know. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.520 Everybody's so conscious of that now, you know, don't forget 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.640 they throw the ball in this league, you know, and 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.240 you got you gotta be able to get some pass rush. So, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.400 like I say, I was trying to find some guys, 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.120 and I think they are too of guys that had 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.280 those trades. Can they play the run? Can they can they? 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:52.960 Can we get a guy that's got a little bit 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.880 of a combination both. Ambar's right about Carl Lawson, veteran guy, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.320 pass rusher, play the run. Well, that's a good fit. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.040 But but the thing with Weed, I just remember having 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.560 him in college was rush, the passer rush, the passer rush, 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.840 the passer guy, you know, And I think there's some 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.560 times out here when you see that, you know, but 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.600 you would like to see it to where it's not 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.480 won every four snaps or five snaps. Yes, you know, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:19.839 it's more of a consistent thing. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.040 I would I'd love to know what the philosophy conversation 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.760 was whenever Sam Williams went down. Was it, hey, we 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.320 need to get a guy who can come in and 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.440 still help in the run defense. We still need help 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.839 in that department. Or was it a conversation where I 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.920 was like, hey, we've lost two pass rushers and Dorance 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.920 Armstrong and Dante Fowler. Now Sam, we need to add 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.880 a guy who has a pass rush specialty. So I 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.079 would have loved to understand the philosophy conversation, the want 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:43.080 into bringing these four guys. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.960 He told me this, Marshawn Kneeling can played run defense. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.040 Oh one thousand percent. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.000 I trusted you, and I think they're doing the same thing. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.839 I think that they're saying, you know what, we lost 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.680 Sam will We lost Sam here, but this gives us 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.360 an opportunity to play Neelan a little bit more here, 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:00.800 give him a little bit more. Monoppert. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.000 He can't play the run. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.440 You see him out there playing the run, So to me, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.240 it softens the blow. 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:08.960 I hate losing Sam. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.200 I'm gonna say this though, and anybody on this panel 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.080 that didn't have questions about Sam Williams going into this sale, 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.360 you know, we were all kind of like, man, if 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.280 Sam could do it, Sam can step up. Boy, they're 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:20.960 gonna be a lot. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:21.480 Better at end. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:22.959 They're going to be, you know, and there are a 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.640 lot of questions, and you still have questions now, but 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.920 he's no longer here. But Neil and I think softens 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.080 the blow a little bit for me because you are 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.880 seeing some traits of his ability. I'm seeing a little 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.280 pass rush out of him, which I didn't think he had. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.800 And when we interviewed Will McClay one oh five three, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.000 the fan, Will was like, man, he's showing some things 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.040 that we didn't think. I'm like, yeah, he could get 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.440 off the ball like a pass rusher. He's got a 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.520 little bit of a burst to him, you know, And 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.040 so he's worked with somebody to get him a little 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.079 bit quicker. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:52.640 Off the ball. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:52.920 You know. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.080 One thing I say about Sam Williams, I actually had 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.800 no doubt that Sam Williams could fill the deficit of 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.280 the number of sacks, and once Armstrong had I really 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:06.080 didn't What I didn't know was how many pilmalies that 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.560 are costly are gonna come with those eight sacks Like 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.360 that's what you And honestly, that's what we all have 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.680 seen from Sam. Like Sam, Sam was a player. Sam 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.000 can play football, He can go get the quarterback. The 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.360 question is he always going to make the smart play? Yeah, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.360 And I think that's what this year was going to 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.760 be about for me with Sam is has he learned 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.800 how to be able to play a little bit more 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.079 controlled so he doesn't end up with the bad play 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.640 that goes with the good player and negates the good play. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.920 But I think that's the part where now Marshawn Neeland 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.120 as a as a rookie, can he replace that that production, 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.400 Like somebody's got to replace that production because you want 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:39.480 them going to get the quarterback. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.160 That's where I'm a little bit more concerned. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.880 You guys all remember David Irving, right, Yes, we did, 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:44.959 of course we do. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.000 Those are good days, That's what I'm saying. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:48.320 That's what I'm saying. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.320 Remember, Yeah, that was that was strange, David said planning 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.440 We're still in the law commercial, but it's kind of 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.320 fitting for both. But the thing with David Irving, though, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.439 remember how it was it was some of the like. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.839 Oh my gosh, yeah. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.760 NFC Player of the Week. He was played twelve plays. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.800 He had like four sacks to cause fumbles. Sam Williams 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.320 is capable of doing the same things. But Sam Williams 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.480 was also capable of the David Irving like jumping off sides, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.440 hands in the face, you know, hitting the quarterback late. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.800 You know that's what you were gonna get with Sam 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:24.560 and David Irving as well. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.520 Yeah, we're gonna take our first break. We will come back. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.040 We'll get some practice observations here with these guys. Think 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.839 of the first two days in Pats. 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Hey, I will step back from that. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:52.000 Welcome back. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:53.600 It is the second segment of the break where you 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:54.920 knox Nod California. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.440 The machines are out there working. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.800 On the field, so you know you got to yeah, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.560 you know we are in oxnar because you hear that 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.040 constant hum in the background. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.560 We'll be out here for another what three weeks? 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.280 We're two and a half what week and a half 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.000 in and so we got another two and a half 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.520 weeks out here, and now Amber's gonna cut it a 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.680 little short. She's like, I'm going home at some point, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.679 but the rest of us will be here till the 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.840 end and then we'll get back to our normal confines. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.119 At the start in Frisco. All right, let's get some 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.520 practice observations. What did you guys see over the first 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.960 two days of padded practices. Let's go down the line. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.000 Tell me what you saw. Give me one observation, and 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:30.720 let's start with you. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.760 Okay, I have a lot of people who have been 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.080 asking me, and I've seen people asking questions about Dak Prescott, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.879 and I know that's a simple, you know, simple observation here. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.119 But so far, he's looked really good everything that he's made. 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.960 I mean, there have been a couple of mistake mistakes 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.560 here and there, but I remember the time where he 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.320 would practice horribly and we would talk about it and 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.159 criticize him, and then oh, well, when the lights come on, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.760 he shows up. So I started thinking, I'm like, man, Okay, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:07.320 every year he has improved something in his game in 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.439 his career, He's improved every single year. Last year, it 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.320 was the whole conversation with was he going to be 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.640 able to improve the interceptions or not he did. Then 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.159 before that it was like, okay, he throw down the 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.879 field he did, can he run with them? He has? 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.960 So he led me to thinking what is it this 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.800 season that we are exactly looking for for him to 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:37.119 like improve this year? And I can't really think of 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:41.520 anything specifically other than finishing games the way that it 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.520 needs to be finished. So question for you guys, if 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.120 you had to pinpoint something that he needs to improve 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.280 at this camp the season, what would that be? 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.199 I would say pushing the ball down field on a 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.960 consistent basis. I really loved what they did with the 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.119 offense last year as far as getting a lot lot 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.359 of guys open in space in the five, ten, fifteen 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.560 yard radiuses. I want to see him push the ball 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.840 downfield a CD even more. And not to say that 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.240 they didn't do it last year. They had the longest 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.800 play in the NFL last season, but I would like 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.639 to see that more on a consistent basis. And I 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.360 think Janallen Tolbert kind of coming into his own as 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.359 a possession guy even I think there's going to be 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.000 more opportunities to be able to do that. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.200 You saw him also improve that footwork. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.119 Last year, I think that still needs to take another 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.680 step as far as him in the pocket being able 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.040 to work some things, see athleticism, getting out of the pocket. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.800 There's always things to improve in those little nuances. So 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.560 those are the two things I'm really looking for when it. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:34.080 Comes to dec Breas. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.000 One thing I'll kind of question you on a little 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.240 bit is when you talk about throwing the ball downfield. 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:40.440 I think they threw the ball. 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.399 Downfield pretty decent amount of times. I don't think it 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.760 was a problem for me. Where I would see that 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.160 is I want to see them, and this is more 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.520 a coaching thing than a DAK thing, create some opportunities 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.800 to go downfield, to turpen and to cooks. There were 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.760 number of times last time last year when I did 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.320 see both those guys open downfield and it wasn't like 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.200 there was some time I think they thought they should 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.359 have attacked more downfield with those guys and they didn't. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.399 There were other times I saw when they would and 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.240 the ball didn't necessarily go to them. So maybe it's 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.359 a concerted effort between the offensive coaches and DAK, but 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.159 I think really getting some opportunities with those two guys 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.960 is even more important because that's the speed of your 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.120 of your offense. That's where you got those game breakers 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.399 that can quickly get you a score and get or 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:21.760 get you downfield really quickly. 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.240 I think that's where I'd like to see a little bit. 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:24.919 You saw it in the San Francisco game whenever they 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:26.639 really needed that score in the first half they go 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.119 to Turpen. It was about a thirty thirty five yard touchdown. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:30.959 So yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. There you 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.240 have those speed weapons, get them the ball out in space, 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.760 whether that be in the short gardage. You're also downfield 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.240 you can push the push the push, the top open 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.320 on them. But it was specifically in the first ten 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.760 games of the season last year, you saw so much 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.240 action right between the hashes. I want to see a 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:47.840 little bit more on the outside down. So you're saying 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.359 downfield perimeter, Yeah, okay, downfield perimeter more so. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:51.920 Yeah, they kind of goes to your point what you're 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:55.439 talking about. It's like they're playing under center more, you know. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.480 And Dak is a we've seen Dak play shotguns. So 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:02.920 mucher meets heavy play action game and all of a sudden, 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.240 heavy play action game means turn your back to the 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.120 defense and make a throw. You saw Trey Lance throw 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:12.000 an interception off heavy play action and then spin to 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.080 try and find the receiver and it end up being 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:15.200 an interception. 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:15.600 Down the red zone. 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.959 So with Dak and all that though, getting more comfortable 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.959 with that being under center and then making it if 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.480 it's the heavy fakes, and then coming back and being 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.320 accurate with your throws, because that's something that looks like 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.159 to me they're going to try and incorporate more in 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:32.159 their running game. Is or they're try to get the 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.200 running game going maybe that way, but if they can't. 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.080 If they can get the running game going, now, now 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.480 you see the heavy play action stuff. So Dak fake, 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.760 turn your back, come back, be accurate with the throw 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.400 wherever it is in the secondary. 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.359 So let me ask you this question, Brian, have you 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.200 seen a situation in your experience in the NFL where 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.320 you could get a good heavy play action game working 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.520 when you don't have a game breaking run. 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.240 Sometimes, Yeah, sometimes you can fool these these linebackers. 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:02.480 You could get him a step up. 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.240 Yeah, just because just because it might come just. 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.120 Because you're taught the reeds. Just because you're taught like, okay, 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:09.439 they're going to run the way. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:10.880 Even teams that don't. 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.560 Run the ball particularly well but still use play action 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.040 somehow get defenders to step up, and then all of 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.080 a sudden you get linebackers to step up, and that 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.639 creates those seams between the safeties and then with the 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.960 linebackers and where they are, and that's where the quick throws. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.960 But yesterday, like I said, we saw with Trey Lance, 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.199 heavy play action, you know, and then they got the receiver, 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.760 got the receiver coming off the backside there it was 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.080 who was it that came from the backside there? Oh, 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.840 where'd my guy go? Crooms and Creams was coming and 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.040 Croams was kind of you could see the Creams was like, damn, 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:45.840 you gotta get me the ball man, you know. But 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:47.960 so if you're gonna do that, it's gonna be the 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.359 fake and you gotta take advantage. But Bell was sitting 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:54.280 right there. So anything like that, where do we get 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:58.680 disappointed with Dak at times? The interceptions where he doesn't 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.280 see the drop defense. So if you go heavy under 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.800 center and then you go play action, make sure that 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:10.600 those throws you see everybody that's in the drop areas 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.080 and make sure that doesn't turn into a turnover. 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.120 All right, Nick, give me an observation. 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.640 Yeah, first two days and Pads, I had my eyes 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.159 on the trenches, I know, me and Brian spent a 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.400 little bit of time watching individual drills down there too. 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.080 But Tyler Guiden looks really strong in these first two 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.760 days as well as brock Hoffman. So if you're looking 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.760 at these two battles on the offensive line at left 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.639 tackle and center, those are the obviously the two leaders 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.959 in the clubhouse for me right now, I'll start with Guiden. 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:41.080 I think tempered expectations are probably realistic and healthy going 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.400 into this camp when it comes to Tyler Guiden and. 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.360 I've come on Mandy no, no, I know. 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.520 And I kind of teetered with this on Twitter a 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.720 little bit too, and fans were like, hey, we have 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:52.600 nothing to be excited about. Let us be excited about this, 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.480 and I was like, yeah, you can be excited about it. 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.400 I want you to be, but also don't be down 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.479 in the dumps when he has a bad day, because 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.320 that will come. It's fourteen of experience that he has 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:05.800 that he's bringing into the NFL. Those lulls will come again. 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.040 That's not a knock on Tyler Guydon. Personally, I think 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.040 he's gonna be a great pro. But I think if 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.880 we look up a year or two years from now, 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.160 we'll look at the first round picks, he's probably somewhere 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:16.760 in the middle. But I think when we look four 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:18.600 or five years down the line, when we'll start talking 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:20.560 about those fifth year options, he's gonna be one of 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.199 the better picks in the first round. In my opinion, 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:24.960 I think it's just gonna take reps, it's gonna take development. 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:27.480 I mean, there are some some fans that are saying, hey, 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:28.919 we don't even want to see him week one. I 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:30.479 was like, yeah, you want to see him week one. 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.600 You want to see him go against Miles Garrett. If 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.399 he gets his butt whooped, he gets his butt whooped him, 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.720 that's a really good that's a really good learning lesson 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.679 for him. But these first two days in pads have 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.000 been great for Tyler Guiden. It reminded me very similar 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.639 to what he did the first day at the Senior 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.040 Bowl up in Mobile just six months ago. It was 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.040 actually six months to the day from the first padded 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.240 practice to that first day in Mobile, and then that 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.000 second day in Mobile would have you would have been 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:55.840 surprised to see him go in the first round. So 0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.119 he's gonna have the ups, he's gonna have the downs. 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.840 He's new to the left tackle position. Yes, he's used 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.840 to protecting the blindside of the quarterback. He understands the 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.400 depth of pocket that he needs to create. He understands 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.040 the athleticism factor of that. But also there's still gonna 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:10.320 be some things that he has to work on as 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.800 far as mirroring his technique to the left side and 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.159 accounting for guys like Michael Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, Marshawn Neeland. 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.160 Those lulls will come, and. 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.639 Then brock Hoffman, I think he is leaps and bounds 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.399 above where the rest of the center competition is. 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.680 Right, he's been expect him to be as good as 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:26.440 he has been. 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.000 Yeah, I'm starting to get to the point to where 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.800 I'd be surprised if he's not the Week one starter. 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:32.960 I'm not gonna put a claim on anything yet because 0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:36.160 we haven't seen anything in preseason games yet. Those games 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.320 obviously weigh so much more than what's going on out here. 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.119 But yeah, Hoffman is clearly taking a step forward. 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.720 BB. You could tell that he's starting to pick up. 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.800 On what's going on at the center position, but those 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.760 snaps are arrant right now, and he's gonna have to 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.040 He's gonna have to get those shotgun snaps in check. 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:52.879 Let me ask you a question on Hoffman and you 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:54.240 all can chime in on this. 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:55.159 I was. 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.640 I was particularly the video that I saw a couple 0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.600 of people putting out there on Hoffman. It was a 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.000 play with or Mazzi, and I think you mentioned something 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:03.080 about it, and you and I kind of talked a 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.240 little bit about it on Twitter. But Hoffman basically got 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.600 pushed right back. Mazi just kind of bull rushed him 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.680 right back toward the quarterback Hoffman did. 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.440 Then Anchor settled in and he didn't like. 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.879 He didn't end up in the quarterback slap. That being said, 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.320 are there any concerns from the standpoint of the strength 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.520 of someone like Hoffman when it comes to playing the 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.000 center position, Because one thing we know when we saw this, 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.280 you know in the past with centers that were you 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.320 know at that position that there are times when you 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.679 will have to face in this league some defensive tackles 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:37.160 who are just big and yeah, just powerful men who 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:40.360 will push you back are there any concerns with his strength? 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:41.760 From that standpoint, I. 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.560 Think he's gonna have his learning moments this year for 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:45.760 sure when it comes to that. Like you said, this division, 0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.359 it's not forgiving that it comes to that defensive tackle position. 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.440 He is still a third year undrafted free agent who 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.960 got cut in his very first spot, but he has 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.679 taken those steps forward to being a projected starter at 0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.119 least at this point. When it comes from a strength perspective, 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.600 that is something he has been focusing a ton on 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:02.359 this offseason. 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:03.880 He's been one of the few. 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.600 Guys that has been in the weight room every single 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.960 day as far as trying to get stronger, trying to 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.280 perfect his technique. When it comes to guys that are 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.480 he knows are stronger than him, He's going to have 0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.080 a guy across the line at some point that's going 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.720 to be twenty thirty pounds maybe heavier than him. How 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.240 is he going to account for that and this that 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.919 anchor and that's really important for him to show. And 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.680 I think maybe that's what you didn't see at times 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.399 from Tyler Biattish, and that's probably why the question is present, 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.000 is sometimes he got overwhelmed when it came from a 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.000 strength perspective. Yes he has the technique and yes there's that, 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.840 but when a guy is just simply stronger than him, 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.879 how can he account for that. I've seen it with 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.040 brock Kaffman a couple of times, because you saw it 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.360 and practice a couple of times. This time last year 0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.720 was Jonathan Hankins, and that's what made me stand out. 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.040 That's what made brock Kaffman stand out initially to me 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.120 this time last year was he was able to keep 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.520 Hankins in check knowing that that guy had the thirty 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.160 pounds on him at that time. So I trust brock 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.200 Kaffman in a strength perspective, but I think it's gonna 0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:58.360 come with its losses as well. 0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:59.760 It's gonna come with its learning moments. 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.240 First, if want to apologize for my wet blanket colleague 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:04.240 here that I'm working. 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:10.000 With today, my bad. 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:12.080 He didn't take me down. 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.360 I was actually want to people. I was like, man, 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.720 I love and then I read his sweet and I 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:17.560 was like, I felt. 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.240 Like he was talking about the Texas Rangers on our broadcast. Everybody. 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.560 But I'll say this though, and you know he's You're 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.480 absolutely right. I'm just having fun with you there. The thing, 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.000 I'll tell you this where I was I was wrong 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.000 about going into this. 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.920 The learning curve for Cooper. 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.720 Bebe is deeper than I thought it was going to be. 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.880 And the reason and you're thinking plug and play. He's 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.520 always played tackle, he's played guard, he can play center. 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.920 He hasn't played center in a while, and now it's 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.920 having to relearn how. 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.640 To snap, how to make the shotgun snap. 0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.560 You don't realize how hard it is. And I played 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:58.160 the position though a long long time ago. To snap, 0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:02.800 to step, to hand placement, to make calls, all those things. 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.080 Cooper Beb is clearly able to do that. Brock Kaufman 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.640 has played at times very very well out here. You know, 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.800 there's no question. You know, Mike Salari, the line coach, 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.920 is like, oh, let's not forget. And we were even 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.160 on the draft coverage, Well, let's not forget brock Kaufman here. 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.040 You know, we're all like a Cooper baby, Cooper B. 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.719 You know, we're jumping up and down talking about that, 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.400 and all of a sudden it's like, you know, Mike 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:25.680 Solry is like, now. 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.240 We got this brock kauffmin you know, so I. 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.240 Think they kind of understood that maybe there was going 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:31.840 to be a little bit of a learning curve here. 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.200 It is pretty deep right now, and you know, and 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.880 that's and that's the thing he's dealing with. Could in 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.400 the next three weeks and two three preseason games, could 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.880 that be different. I think we are looking at brock 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.400 hoff And starting at center against the against the Cleveland Browns. 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.880 If I had to right now say what they were 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.600 going to do, yeah, it's going to be brock Hoffin 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:52.360 starting at center. 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.440 And I think an interesting conversation that might be more 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.680 appropriate down the line whenever these things get finalized, is 0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:59.800 if Cooper BB does not win that center. 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.960 Position, we's got to go win it now. I mean 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.000 it's not it's not plug and play. Hey, we've drafted you, 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.240 let's go. Yeah, It's it's like, no, we've got a 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.960 guy that's he you know, brock Hoffins not falling down 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:12.400 out here. 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.000 I mean, he's he's doing his job. 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.560 Yeah, if BB doesn't win that center spot, where does 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.520 he kind of go as far as what his role 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.680 will be moving forward? And he could be a legitimate 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.960 guy that you rotate in in the interior offensive line. 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.600 Injury that happens, But you also have TJ. Bass there. 0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.959 See, we've talked about Zach Martin potentially he's he's teered 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.480 with the with the idea of retirement. 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.480 He's talked about it a couple of times this offseason. 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:36.360 If he were to sign a one year deal to 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.000 come back for another season, or a two year deal 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.040 to come back for a couple of more seasons. Again, 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.000 where are you going to start factoring in Cooper BB 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.520 And then you look up again, this is probably way 0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.280 more appropriate down the line. I'm just kind of thinking 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.440 on it is do you maybe wish he took that 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.400 running back in the third round looking back on it? 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.520 But yeah, where were you and I needed you on 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:56.160 that night? Yeah, I. 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.640 Hey, hey Cooper bb ye, And I'm like, man, there's 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:02.800 this running back at USC. 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:03.520 We need to talk. 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:10.440 Yeah, but no, you're you know, you're absolutely right because 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.280 I think if they had to play right now, if 0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.360 something and if something would happen to the interior, I 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.960 think TJ. Bass is our guy. I don't think it's 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.360 I don't think it's Cooper b B. I think you 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:22.560 know what they need to do is they need to 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:26.920 keep Cooper BB playing playing center. Just keep keeping keep 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.160 playing center, Bass, even though Bass there was a couple 0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.160 of times yesterday guy, uh, you know, our our defensive 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.200 tackle Rogers got him a little bit yesterday and so 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:37.960 on a on, a couple of moves and stuff. 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.440 So I was kind of like, Okay, this is. 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.680 All right, but I just keep Cooper bb at center 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:48.440 and then, you know, Bass, let him be that veteran guy. 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.160 A veteran, he's a second year guy, basically the to 0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:52.920 be that guy that if they had something to go 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.440 on at either guard spot, he'd be the fill in guy. 0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.520 Tell you what you mentioned, Justin Rodgers, keep an eye 0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:57.880 out there. 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:02.760 I tell you what Justin ron I this is. And 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:03.080 I'm not. 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.800 And again I go down there at the defensive tackle 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.040 spot every single day. I spend the first hour practice 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.240 going down there and watching Chef Sigin and those guys 0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.560 work down there, and I'm trying to kind of figure 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.320 out what are they teaching, Mozzie, What are they teaching 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.240 the defensive tackles, what do they There are things that 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.360 that that Rogers is doing. There are things that Rogers 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:22.760 is doing. Do you get a little rain on you 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:23.240 there or something? 0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:23.400 Well? 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.240 I keep seeing random rain drops fall, but I guess 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.720 it's the tree coming from. 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.440 But the the thing with Rogers, as you mentioned, there's 0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:33.960 some things he's doing with his. 0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.920 Hands and control and movement, and. 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.760 You're like going, man, if we were if Mozzie was 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.400 doing this right now, we'd be we'd be throwing a parade, 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.720 as I like to say, you know, And and they're trying. 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.840 I mean, they are coaching him as hard. 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.360 I mean, with Mazie it's going to be about it's 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.160 either it's either going to succeed or it's gonna break him. 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.720 That's that's how hard they're coaching him right now. And 0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.600 so but Rogers and those guys are picking things up 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:00.520 down there, they really are. 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.640 Scanina's been tearing into Mazzi a few times. 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:04.840 Yeah, and you know what, like I said, he you 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.880 know there he's asking him to do it his way. 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:13.680 He's you know, it's it's step hands up up, not out. 0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.000 And then there's a f bomb in there. 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:20.000 Doing it very nicely. 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.480 But that's how that's how. 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:21.800 You know. 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.680 And it's and it's not like it's like again Mazzy 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.400 again again. I mean, it's like five reps in a row, 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:33.080 and they're trying. I mean, and Mazzi is try, I mean, 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.280 but the others seem to be picking it up a 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.640 little bit better and executing it a little better at 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.960 this point than what you're getting with Mazzie right now. 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.440 Strong guy, but man, they're they're trying so hard to 0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:47.520 work on his technique. 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.640 Feet, hands are We're gonna take our final break. We'll 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:51.040 come back. 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.240 We've got into this offensive line conversation, so I'll continue 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:55.800 with that. I have a couple of more questions for 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.600 you guys on the offensive line walls to try to 0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.440 sneak in. 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We are alive 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.640 from Oxnard, California. This segment brought to you by blockchain 0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:52.600 dot Com. All right, let's continue this conversation on the 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.960 offensive lineman. A name that hasn't come up yet for 0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.120 us on our show this year, but I think is 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.240 very important to Cowboys fans or should be, is Terrence Steele. 0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.359 He's a guy that has shown, you know, really good 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.719 things throughout his career here with the Cowboys. One of 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.279 those guys that came from being an underdog to being 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.920 a starter and performing well and then had the injury 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.880 and last year kind of inconsistent results. What have you 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:16.600 guys seen from him so far this year at camp? 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.160 I'll tell you. 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.080 Two days ago, I got stuck on the VIP side 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.640 of the field, so it was all about watching left 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.799 tackle play, which was okay because Geiton was over here 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.520 being left tackle guy. So yesterday I made it a 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.840 point to work my way around and watch a little 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.680 bit more. And then when they were doing the Mojo moment, 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:37.840 you know, the two point plays, we got to see 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.759 the tackle, you know. On our site going the other way, 0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.920 so got to see him a little bit. I think 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.239 he's moving around a little bit better than last year. 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.960 I think he looks a little bit more confident in 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.719 what's going now. You watch him and having to deal 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.879 with parsons, and parsons is a pain in the ass 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.000 to deal with, especially when it's like it's the you know, 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.800 it's the big mojo moment. We got to get a 0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.560 stop kind of thing, because he is going to he's 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.279 going to go flying down inside and you're gonna have 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.000 to try and cut him off, and he's just gonna 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.439 be powerful and he's gonna overpower you. But I think 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.360 the movement, the pass sets the things that have been watching, 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.520 like in the one on one stuff, he looks comfortably. 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.440 He looks like he's back to a little bit of 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.120 his old self with the. 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.000 Way that his hands and his feet kind of work together. 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.040 Though I don't think he's ever gonna be a really 0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.319 really strong guy, but I think the athletic ability is 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.800 always going to be his calling card, and that looks 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:27.920 like it's coming back to him. 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.040 You are starting to see what a full offseason can 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.720 do for him now. I mean, there was enough trust 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.880 in him last year coming off that ACL injury to 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.520 give him that five year, eighty two and a half 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.359 million dollar contract, and. 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.280 In the back half of the season. 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.120 I'd put those last six games of the season that 0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.120 Terrence Steel puts together, I'd put that up with any 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.240 six games he's had in his career. Like, I feel 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.279 really strongly about how he finished the season, even though 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.719 he started it really rough. He really had to find 0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.239 his footing whenever he was making his way back from 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.719 that ACL injury. But I think coming in this year, 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.959 you see that full off season, you see that comp 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.160 and that he was able to build again. It's gonna 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.560 be seeing it in pads and seeing it a little 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:06.680 bit more as time goes on. 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:07.799 But so far, so good. 0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.759 As far as what I like from Terrence Steele, you 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.080 have three trusted guys on that offensive line in my eyes, 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:13.160 and Terrence Steel's one of them. 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.680 Yeah, I think not everyone is gonna be great, not 0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.759 everyone's gonna be bad. You're gonna have those guys that 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.280 are gonna be your solid guys that they're just gonna 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.840 be there. They're gonna do their job, and they're gonna 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.239 have moments where they do get dominated and they lose 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.319 the battle. But I think he's a solid guy. He's 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.520 the least of my worries right now when you look 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.200 at the rest of the team, even in the rest 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.000 of the line. We've talked about the other guys, but 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:43.120 I think he he looks like he's been I haven't 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.640 noticed anything that gives me a whole lot to worry 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.919 about and be like, man, we gotta find somebody else. 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.680 And no, we got enough problems and he's not one 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:51.520 of them. 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.760 Problems all right, So lit'sten, Brian. 0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:58.440 We did need to still get to your observation, give 0:39:58.480 --> 0:39:59.879 us a camp observation that you've seen over the last 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:01.120 days and Pats. 0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.240 You know what, when you watch Trey Lance thro the football, 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.000 there's problems with him throwing the ball outside the numbers. 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.440 At least then until yesterday's practice, I thought he threw 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.879 the ball down the field better, but to the outside. 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.080 So but the thing that I worry about Trey Lance, 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.960 and we've seen three opportunities. Now, there was a time 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.640 when they were running a team period. They were it's 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.840 a two minute period. They were driving the field. This 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.080 was with no pads, this was shells and they're coming 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.160 down and it came down to the final play, and 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.240 it's a quick it's quick scramble. Get everybody to the line, 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.720 try and get everybody go in defense. Plasters there, guys, 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.080 and now there's no time and he takes off running 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:43.279 and he gets stopped. Lost opportunity, goal line situation. Here, 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.600 what happens is heavy play action like I was talking about. 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.960 They got, they got, they got. The creams coming across. 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.560 He doesn't see creams, or he thinks he sees creams, 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.839 but Bell standing right there makes the throw. Another red 0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.480 zone mistake. Then what happens yesterday? Two minute drill. They're 0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.600 driving down there, driving the ball, driving well, he gets 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.040 them down, has an incompletion to the sidelines. Now they're 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.040 down to their last play and here we are six seconds. 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:10.319 What's the one thing you can't do? 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.080 Can't hold the ball? Can't you got to get rid 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.400 of the ball? Takes a snap, drops back, plays plays, 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:21.600 developing clock runs out, no points. It's three times that 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:25.480 we've seen Trey Lance in those red zone, tight red 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:29.080 zone situations come up empty. You know, I think there's 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.480 some things about him. I think it's all about the learning, 0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.080 the learning curve, the experience that he's getting out here. 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.840 But if you said something it was like, Trey Lance 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.200 is not accurate. Yeah, there's there's some truth to that, 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:44.040 especially outside the numbers. But I thought he was better yesterday. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.240 But the thing that concerns me is three red zone trips, 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.399 oh for three. Two of them were situations where he's 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.520 got to be quicker with his decision making and make 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.560 the throws. And then, like I say, the interception he 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.520 just didn't see or Keith Bell, then they're going to 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.600 have to look at him, maybe analyze a little bit 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:03.120 more for him. 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.160 Yeah, as far as just being quicker that I think 0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.200 that could be probably an indictment on all of Trey 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.200 Lance's game so far out here at camp. He's got 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.120 to be quicker, he's got to be more decisive. You 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.560 haven't quite seen that. And it was it was funny 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.000 because you finally saw him build some confidence there. Yeah, 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.640 on that two minute drive, had those three straight completions 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.160 and it was three different receivers time Billie Johnson, Tlburt 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.160 and Brooks and he gets down the field in a 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.120 hurry and it's like, okay, okay, we're starting to see 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.600 this confidence built, right, and then again that indecisive that 0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.520 shows up in the right zone. So preseason is obviously 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.560 going to be the biggest opportunity for him. You know, 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.600 he he could go out and have a huge preseason 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:37.719 game and we forget all about this. 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:39.719 But it's not trending that way. I'll say that. 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:40.000 Yeah. 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.160 The interesting thing, we've seen that before with quarterbacks that 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:43.399 out here they aren't as great. 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:44.839 And then you get him over on the lights. 0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.839 I think that's a great example, like the lights and 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:48.880 then all of a sudden. 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.960 In preseason sixteen was one of I mean, he's stilling 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.600 the ball, like you know, he's looks like Steve Young 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:54.920 out there. 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.920 I mean, yeah, so, and by the way, part of 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.239 part of practice is kind of working through things that 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.839 you kind of you're finding out can I make this throw? 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.680 You're finding out did I make that reathrow? 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.680 You're learning out here, so you don't want to put 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.440 too much into it, but yeah you have to. 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.840 Just like you say, I think everybody is making a 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.000 big deal about his accuracy. I think that could get better. 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:17.319 It's like you get down, like like Nick was talking about, 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.680 you drive the ball, you're making positive plays, and all 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.239 of a sudden, you have got to get rid of 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:23.880 the ball here. If you don't see it, get rid 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.280 of it. Let us fight for another play. You can't 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:29.000 use up all six seconds down here, you know. And 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.520 like you say, hey, they you know, after the interception, 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:37.040 they you know, Brian Schottenheimer put Cooper Russian there, go yeah, 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:37.560 go in there. 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:41.279 It's because I was I was super excited when we 0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.920 got here. It's like, he has this. The way he 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.960 carries himself would make you think that his plate is way. 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.360 Better than He doesn't have a lot of experience. 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.000 He really, he didn't have a lot coming into him. 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:53.880 He really doesn't. 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.640 And the more you dig into his background, the more 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.520 you're like, going, he's only played that much, you know, 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.000 So you're right, the everything every rep he gets out 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.040 here is great, Every preseason snap he. 0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:07.960 Gets is great, you know. 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.200 And you know, but that was the one thing when 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.359 you're asking an observation, it's like, Okay, don't worry about 0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.880 the accuracy pert, because that can come what's going on 0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:18.960 down in the red zone. You have three trips down there, 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.960 and you're expecting three three scores, and you have an 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.520 interception and two plays where you run out of time. 0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:26.120 You know, it got to be a little bit more 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:26.520 on there. 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.160 All right, I appreciate you guys, Jonas. 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.759 We'll be back on next Monday and we'll dive into 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.800 all things happened this weekend. We got an interesting practice. 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.120 We'll actually be streaming the practice live and so you 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:38.640 have an opportunity to be able to check out some 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:44.200 of practice, listen to some of them. Is that Sundays, Saturdaday. Saturday, Yeah, Saturday, 0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.640 our producer got me all switched around here. 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:47.520 Saturday is Satday. 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:49.640 Okay, good, So Saturday, and we'll have some of our 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.120 analysts on. They'll be walking you through practice and what 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.120 you're seeing out there. 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.880 Till then. I Brian brought us Ambergarcia and Nick Harris. 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:56.720 I am Derek Eagleton. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.680 This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:44:58.719 --> 0:44:59.919 Com Radio. 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.799 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.880 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.