1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys, Are you ready for a Break? 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 4: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 4: Season twenty, episode twelve of The Break. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 6: We are live from Oxnard, California, were presented by LGLG 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 6: is the world's number one O lead TV brand for 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 6: eleven years in counting CEYLG dot Com forward slash O 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 6: lead EVO. 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. We got a lot of. 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 7: Their badass company. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, with a badass name. I love the energy 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 4: this morning. Let's keep it going, Jo. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 6: We got a lot we're gonna talk about this morning. 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 6: We've got cowboys are looking for a little defensive end help. Yeah, 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 6: we'll talk about that here in a second. We'll get 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 6: some practice notes and some observations from you guys from 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 6: what you've seen over the last couple of days of practice. 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 4: The pads have come on, so it's a good time to. 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 6: Observe what players have been showing up when now there's 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 6: a little bit more contact and then we got a 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 6: few storylines we're gonna hit. I want to talk a 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 6: little bit about some of the guys that are returning 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 6: from injury and what we've seen from them so far, 30 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 6: maybe even see if we have some time to get 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 6: into what has been a big achilles heel for this 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 6: defense at times over the last few years, stopping the run, 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: and the players that are going to be most important 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 6: to fixing that going into the twenty twenty four season. 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: So let's start first with defensive end. 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 6: Help Nick, tell me a little bit about what the 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 6: guys that are bringing in this morning and bringing in 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 6: some guys for workouts. 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, bringing in four guys for workouts in the wake 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 5: of the Sam Williams injury, and honestly, according to kind 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: of the rumblings, this was even a position group if 42 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: they maybe are looking to address even before that injury, 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: So now becomes even more important looking at these guys. 44 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: But the name up top is Carl Lawson. You're probably 45 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 5: familiar with his productivity twenty seven career sacks and seventy 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: four games. 47 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: A little bit more of a power guy, but he does. 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: Have tools in his toolbag that kind of shows some 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 5: speed stuff and shows his athleticism around the edge too. 50 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: I think he marries those two things really well. He 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: might cost you a. 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 5: Little bit more than these other guys, but I think 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 5: if he comes out here and has a really good workout, 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 5: I think they could probably make something work. Shaka Tony, 55 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: a round seven pick for Washington back in twenty twenty one, 56 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: was college teammates with Micah Parsons one and a half 57 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 5: career sacks in twenty six games. Only lasted two seasons 58 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 5: with the Commanders, and has kind of just found his 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: spot on some practice squad since then. 60 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: Justin Hollins. 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: He's a grat of Arlington Martin High School down in Arlington. 62 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 5: Fifth round pick for Denver back in twenty nineteen, ten 63 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 5: and a half career sacks in sixty seven games. 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: It's a little bit more experienced. 65 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 5: Than Tony, but productivity is still kind of rolling around 66 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 5: that same stratosphere. And then Quadeen Mohammad, a sixth round 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: pick out of New Orleans in twenty seventeen. He's been 68 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 5: out of the league since last year. He was out 69 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: of the league last year, but twelve career sacks in 70 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: eighty four games. What he brings you was he's his 71 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 5: productivity and stopping the run though, So I think if 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: they want a guy who can be that run stopper 73 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: around the edge, if they want another one that they 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 5: can pair with DeMarcus Lawrence and now Marshawn Neil and 75 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: the young guy than al Quade Mohammad, would be an 76 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 5: interesting addition for me. 77 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if they add one or two. 78 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: I think potentially adding to could be an option for them, 79 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 5: just kind of depending on how the numbers worked out, 80 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 5: and obviously the workouts themselves, but this is an interesting 81 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: crop of crop of guys. I think they'll be able 82 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: to kind of see who's who's the better one, and 83 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 5: we'll see who they sign at the end of the day. 84 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 7: Well, you get your fastball working today. 85 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, appreciate it the sack appreciate it, right, No, no, man, absolutely, 86 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 8: I'll tell you this though. You know you mentioned about 87 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 8: Muhammad as a run defender and all that. The guy's 88 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 8: got some explosive quickness with the Indianapolis colch. You can 89 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 8: watch him the way that he gets up the field 90 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 8: and then is able to redirect to see him like. 91 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 7: Squeeze the whole a little bit better in the run 92 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 7: game stuff. 93 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 8: But when you start to talk about the pass russ skill, 94 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 8: the moves, the hand stuff and all that kind of 95 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 8: a guy that's got a little bit of both when 96 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 8: it comes to the run defending stuff and then also 97 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 8: the pass rush. 98 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 7: Also took a peek at you mentioned Hollins. 99 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 8: I watched him he was Green Bay and then Chargers 100 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 8: late in the year, and this guy is like a 101 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 8: long range gem when we talked about long those tall, linear, 102 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 8: long armed guys, he played his a little bit of 103 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 8: a stand up beds. So what happens was he was 104 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 8: on two teams where he played on odd man fronts 105 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 8: where it was three four front where it wasn't hand down, 106 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 8: it was stand up and rush. But I'll tell you 107 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 8: what thing this guy he plays off the blocks. He's 108 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 8: really good with an extension. He could dip the corner 109 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 8: pretty well. I think he needs a little bit more 110 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 8: power kind of when handling those rushes. But the chase, 111 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 8: all those things about that, They've got some guys here 112 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 8: that they brought in that kind of we were talking about, 113 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 8: how does it fill in for Sam Williams. Potentially you're 114 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 8: probably not going to replace Sam Williams, But can you 115 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 8: get some of the traits that he had, the length, 116 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 8: the ability to get around the corner, the quickness, the 117 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 8: ability to maybe make a tackle or too in the 118 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 8: run game, and stuff like that. So they've got some 119 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 8: guys that they're bringing in at least they're going to 120 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 8: take a look at. I feel like kind of fit 121 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 8: the bill of what they're trying to do in their scheme. 122 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 6: That being said, I'd love you guys to give me 123 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 6: a name of one of these guys. You would say, 124 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 6: if you had to choose, which one, based on what 125 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: you've seen, best fits that role of giving you something, 126 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 6: maybe a little, not everything, but some of what you 127 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 6: miss now without Sam Sam Williams. 128 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 7: I would go with Hollins myself. 129 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 8: I just think that he's more like how he's built, 130 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 8: that he fits the eye of what I've seen now. 131 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 7: I will say this. 132 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 8: Tony is an interesting cat because you could watch him 133 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 8: play a ton of Special Team Eames, so he kind 134 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 8: of fits that role. He was stand up guy with 135 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 8: the commanders, but he was hand down with the commanders. 136 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 8: He's another guy that's got that little bit of that 137 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 8: explosiveness off the edge. It could close down pretty well, 138 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 8: he chases the ball. 139 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 7: Well I was. 140 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 8: I just you know, if you're saying, okay, you want 141 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 8: what type of guy do you want? You want a 142 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 8: guy that can come in and potentially rush and give 143 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 8: you something like what Sam Williams was doing. How did 144 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 8: Sam Williams get injured? They were doing special team drills 145 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 8: and things like that. So I think Tony might be 146 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 8: that guy. But if the guy that fits my eye, 147 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 8: I would go. I would go with Hollins. I know 148 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 8: everybody wants Carl Lawson. I think I would go a 149 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 8: little bit different route there. For me personally, I like 150 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 8: Carl Lawson. But man, these other guys that they were 151 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 8: looking at, or that I was looking at today, I thought, 152 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 8: maybe a little bit more explosive with their rush, a 153 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 8: little bit more explosive getting around the corner, and maybe 154 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 8: a little bit of younger players involved as well. 155 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: You factor money into that as well as it from 156 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: a pure scouting. 157 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 7: And I never worry about them. Okay, you know that 158 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 7: somebody else's problem. 159 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 8: You know, I'm just the man asked me. My man 160 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 8: asked me who I would bring in here? You know 161 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 8: what I told you, who I would bring in here? 162 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: Scout you die. 163 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you do. 164 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 8: Last time they asked me that in two thousand and five, 165 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 8: they said, we don't want to ask you that anymore. 166 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 8: They sent me on my way, you know. So yeah, no, 167 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 8: I think you're right about with Loss. But maybe Loss 168 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 8: is in a situation where he wants to get into 169 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 8: a camp. I know these others are guys that, uh, 170 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 8: you know, Hollins has played played last year. 171 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 7: Tony was a guy that sat out all last year. 172 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 8: So I think there's some guys that are anxious to 173 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 8: get and maybe it fits into the the budget to what. 174 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 7: They're they're doing with me. 175 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 9: And this is a boring answer, but with Loss. 176 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 7: And I look more at you want the veteran cat. 177 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 9: Does the experience, who has some more the most sacked. 178 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 7: Don't make so much sense. Don't do that. 179 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 9: The thing is, Brian, you know with these younger guys, 180 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 9: you're wanting them to step up with know that the 181 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 9: linebacker position, uh, that's you're dealing with that on its own. 182 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 9: Then you talk about defensive end, you don't want an 183 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 9: extra problem happening there. So you really have different areas 184 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 9: that you're having to work with youth and younger players. 185 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 9: So if I can have a veteran guy that can 186 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 9: come in here and just kind of do his thing, 187 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 9: adjust how he can just follow my zimmer and his 188 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 9: scheme and all of that, then that's what I'm taking 189 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 9: at this point. Beggars can be choosers, so I'm going 190 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 9: with the guy with the most. 191 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 6: Well, here's the other question, though, A guy like he'll 192 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 6: throw out a guy like Tyros s Wheet, who I 193 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 6: think flashed out here last year. He's at some moments 194 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 6: where you're like, God, it's got a little something. Are 195 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 6: any of these guys necessarily better than what you project? 196 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: Tyris Wheet can be if given the opportunity. 197 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 7: What did you see you, Tyros Sweet coming out of college? 198 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 5: I didn't do a whole lot of studying on coming 199 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 5: out of college, I'll say that. But as far as 200 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 5: his rookie season, very interesting to see how they continue 201 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 5: to use him in the micro Simmer system because dan 202 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 5: Quinn had him working with a linebacker. 203 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 7: Right, he's more of an edge. 204 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's more of an edge Okay. 205 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 6: But but to be fair, Sam Williams to me seemed 206 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 6: like more of that kind of guy too, where he's 207 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 6: just like a he just go get the quarterback. 208 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: I don't know he was great in run defense. He 209 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: wasn't that guy, right, I. 210 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 7: Think I think that it's gonna sound strange. 211 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 8: I think that Carl Lawson is probably a better run defender. 212 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 7: Sam Williams better. 213 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 8: Pass rush, right, Yeah, Carl Lawson better run defender. So yeah, 214 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 8: if you're if you're thinking about, okay, well man, we've 215 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 8: got to stop the run, we've got it. 216 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: You know. 217 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 8: Everybody's so conscious of that now, you know, don't forget 218 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 8: they throw the ball in this league, you know, and 219 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 8: you got you gotta be able to get some pass rush. So, 220 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 8: like I say, I was trying to find some guys, 221 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 8: and I think they are too of guys that had 222 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 8: those trades. Can they play the run? Can they can they? 223 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 8: Can we get a guy that's got a little bit 224 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 8: of a combination both. Ambar's right about Carl Lawson, veteran guy, 225 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 8: pass rusher, play the run. Well, that's a good fit. 226 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 8: But but the thing with Weed, I just remember having 227 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 8: him in college was rush, the passer rush, the passer rush, 228 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 8: the passer guy, you know, And I think there's some 229 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 8: times out here when you see that, you know, but 230 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 8: you would like to see it to where it's not 231 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 8: won every four snaps or five snaps. Yes, you know, 232 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 8: it's more of a consistent thing. 233 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 5: I would I'd love to know what the philosophy conversation 234 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 5: was whenever Sam Williams went down. Was it, hey, we 235 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 5: need to get a guy who can come in and 236 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 5: still help in the run defense. We still need help 237 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 5: in that department. Or was it a conversation where I 238 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 5: was like, hey, we've lost two pass rushers and Dorance 239 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 5: Armstrong and Dante Fowler. Now Sam, we need to add 240 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 5: a guy who has a pass rush specialty. So I 241 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 5: would have loved to understand the philosophy conversation, the want 242 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: into bringing these four guys. 243 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 7: He told me this, Marshawn Kneeling can played run defense. 244 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: Oh one thousand percent. 245 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 8: I trusted you, and I think they're doing the same thing. 246 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 8: I think that they're saying, you know what, we lost 247 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 8: Sam will We lost Sam here, but this gives us 248 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 8: an opportunity to play Neelan a little bit more here, 249 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 8: give him a little bit more. Monoppert. 250 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 7: He can't play the run. 251 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 8: You see him out there playing the run, So to me, 252 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 8: it softens the blow. 253 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 7: I hate losing Sam. 254 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 8: I'm gonna say this though, and anybody on this panel 255 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 8: that didn't have questions about Sam Williams going into this sale, 256 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 8: you know, we were all kind of like, man, if 257 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 8: Sam could do it, Sam can step up. Boy, they're 258 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 8: gonna be a lot. 259 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 7: Better at end. 260 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 8: They're going to be, you know, and there are a 261 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 8: lot of questions, and you still have questions now, but 262 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 8: he's no longer here. But Neil and I think softens 263 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 8: the blow a little bit for me because you are 264 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 8: seeing some traits of his ability. I'm seeing a little 265 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 8: pass rush out of him, which I didn't think he had. 266 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 8: And when we interviewed Will McClay one oh five three, 267 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 8: the fan, Will was like, man, he's showing some things 268 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 8: that we didn't think. I'm like, yeah, he could get 269 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 8: off the ball like a pass rusher. He's got a 270 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 8: little bit of a burst to him, you know, And 271 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 8: so he's worked with somebody to get him a little 272 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 8: bit quicker. 273 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: Off the ball. 274 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 7: You know. 275 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 6: One thing I say about Sam Williams, I actually had 276 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 6: no doubt that Sam Williams could fill the deficit of 277 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 6: the number of sacks, and once Armstrong had I really 278 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 6: didn't What I didn't know was how many pilmalies that 279 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 6: are costly are gonna come with those eight sacks Like 280 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 6: that's what you And honestly, that's what we all have 281 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 6: seen from Sam. Like Sam, Sam was a player. Sam 282 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 6: can play football, He can go get the quarterback. The 283 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 6: question is he always going to make the smart play? Yeah, 284 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 6: And I think that's what this year was going to 285 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 6: be about for me with Sam is has he learned 286 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 6: how to be able to play a little bit more 287 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 6: controlled so he doesn't end up with the bad play 288 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 6: that goes with the good player and negates the good play. 289 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 6: But I think that's the part where now Marshawn Neeland 290 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 6: as a as a rookie, can he replace that that production, 291 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 6: Like somebody's got to replace that production because you want 292 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 6: them going to get the quarterback. 293 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: That's where I'm a little bit more concerned. 294 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 8: You guys all remember David Irving, right, Yes, we did, 295 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 8: of course we do. 296 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: Those are good days, That's what I'm saying. 297 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. 298 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 8: Remember, Yeah, that was that was strange, David said planning 299 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 8: We're still in the law commercial, but it's kind of 300 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 8: fitting for both. But the thing with David Irving, though, 301 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 8: remember how it was it was some of the like. 302 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, yeah. 303 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 8: NFC Player of the Week. He was played twelve plays. 304 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 8: He had like four sacks to cause fumbles. Sam Williams 305 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 8: is capable of doing the same things. But Sam Williams 306 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 8: was also capable of the David Irving like jumping off sides, 307 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 8: hands in the face, you know, hitting the quarterback late. 308 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 8: You know that's what you were gonna get with Sam 309 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 8: and David Irving as well. 310 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna take our first break. 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Hey, I will step back from that. 384 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: Welcome back. 385 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: It is the second segment of the break where you 386 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 6: knox Nod California. 387 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: The machines are out there working. 388 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 6: On the field, so you know you got to yeah, 389 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 6: you know we are in oxnar because you hear that 390 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 6: constant hum in the background. 391 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: We'll be out here for another what three weeks? 392 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 6: We're two and a half what week and a half 393 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 6: in and so we got another two and a half 394 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 6: weeks out here, and now Amber's gonna cut it a 395 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 6: little short. She's like, I'm going home at some point, 396 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 6: but the rest of us will be here till the 397 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 6: end and then we'll get back to our normal confines. 398 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 6: At the start in Frisco. All right, let's get some 399 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: practice observations. What did you guys see over the first 400 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 6: two days of padded practices. Let's go down the line. 401 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 6: Tell me what you saw. Give me one observation, and 402 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 6: let's start with you. 403 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 9: Okay, I have a lot of people who have been 404 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 9: asking me, and I've seen people asking questions about Dak Prescott, 405 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 9: and I know that's a simple, you know, simple observation here. 406 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 9: But so far, he's looked really good everything that he's made. 407 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 9: I mean, there have been a couple of mistake mistakes 408 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 9: here and there, but I remember the time where he 409 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 9: would practice horribly and we would talk about it and 410 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 9: criticize him, and then oh, well, when the lights come on, 411 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 9: he shows up. So I started thinking, I'm like, man, Okay, 412 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 9: every year he has improved something in his game in 413 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 9: his career, He's improved every single year. Last year, it 414 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 9: was the whole conversation with was he going to be 415 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 9: able to improve the interceptions or not he did. Then 416 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 9: before that it was like, okay, he throw down the 417 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 9: field he did, can he run with them? He has? 418 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 9: So he led me to thinking what is it this 419 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 9: season that we are exactly looking for for him to 420 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 9: like improve this year? And I can't really think of 421 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 9: anything specifically other than finishing games the way that it 422 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 9: needs to be finished. So question for you guys, if 423 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 9: you had to pinpoint something that he needs to improve 424 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 9: at this camp the season, what would that be? 425 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 5: I would say pushing the ball down field on a 426 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: consistent basis. I really loved what they did with the 427 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: offense last year as far as getting a lot lot 428 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 5: of guys open in space in the five, ten, fifteen 429 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 5: yard radiuses. I want to see him push the ball 430 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: downfield a CD even more. And not to say that 431 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: they didn't do it last year. They had the longest 432 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 5: play in the NFL last season, but I would like 433 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 5: to see that more on a consistent basis. And I 434 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 5: think Janallen Tolbert kind of coming into his own as 435 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 5: a possession guy even I think there's going to be 436 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 5: more opportunities to be able to do that. 437 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: You saw him also improve that footwork. 438 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: Last year, I think that still needs to take another 439 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 5: step as far as him in the pocket being able 440 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: to work some things, see athleticism, getting out of the pocket. 441 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 5: There's always things to improve in those little nuances. So 442 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: those are the two things I'm really looking for when it. 443 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: Comes to dec Breas. 444 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 6: One thing I'll kind of question you on a little 445 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 6: bit is when you talk about throwing the ball downfield. 446 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 4: I think they threw the ball. 447 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 6: Downfield pretty decent amount of times. I don't think it 448 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 6: was a problem for me. Where I would see that 449 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 6: is I want to see them, and this is more 450 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 6: a coaching thing than a DAK thing, create some opportunities 451 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 6: to go downfield, to turpen and to cooks. There were 452 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 6: number of times last time last year when I did 453 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 6: see both those guys open downfield and it wasn't like 454 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 6: there was some time I think they thought they should 455 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 6: have attacked more downfield with those guys and they didn't. 456 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 6: There were other times I saw when they would and 457 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 6: the ball didn't necessarily go to them. So maybe it's 458 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 6: a concerted effort between the offensive coaches and DAK, but 459 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 6: I think really getting some opportunities with those two guys 460 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 6: is even more important because that's the speed of your 461 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 6: of your offense. That's where you got those game breakers 462 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 6: that can quickly get you a score and get or 463 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 6: get you downfield really quickly. 464 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: I think that's where I'd like to see a little bit. 465 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 5: You saw it in the San Francisco game whenever they 466 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: really needed that score in the first half they go 467 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 5: to Turpen. It was about a thirty thirty five yard touchdown. 468 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. There you 469 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: have those speed weapons, get them the ball out in space, 470 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: whether that be in the short gardage. You're also downfield 471 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 5: you can push the push the push, the top open 472 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 5: on them. But it was specifically in the first ten 473 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 5: games of the season last year, you saw so much 474 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 5: action right between the hashes. I want to see a 475 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: little bit more on the outside down. So you're saying 476 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 5: downfield perimeter, Yeah, okay, downfield perimeter more so. 477 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, they kind of goes to your point what you're 478 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 8: talking about. It's like they're playing under center more, you know. 479 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 8: And Dak is a we've seen Dak play shotguns. So 480 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 8: mucher meets heavy play action game and all of a sudden, 481 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 8: heavy play action game means turn your back to the 482 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 8: defense and make a throw. You saw Trey Lance throw 483 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 8: an interception off heavy play action and then spin to 484 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 8: try and find the receiver and it end up being 485 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 8: an interception. 486 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 7: Down the red zone. 487 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 8: So with Dak and all that though, getting more comfortable 488 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 8: with that being under center and then making it if 489 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 8: it's the heavy fakes, and then coming back and being 490 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 8: accurate with your throws, because that's something that looks like 491 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 8: to me they're going to try and incorporate more in 492 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 8: their running game. Is or they're try to get the 493 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 8: running game going maybe that way, but if they can't. 494 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 8: If they can get the running game going, now, now 495 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 8: you see the heavy play action stuff. So Dak fake, 496 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 8: turn your back, come back, be accurate with the throw 497 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 8: wherever it is in the secondary. 498 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 6: So let me ask you this question, Brian, have you 499 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 6: seen a situation in your experience in the NFL where 500 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 6: you could get a good heavy play action game working 501 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 6: when you don't have a game breaking run. 502 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 8: Sometimes, Yeah, sometimes you can fool these these linebackers. 503 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 7: You could get him a step up. 504 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, just because just because it might come just. 505 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 8: Because you're taught the reeds. Just because you're taught like, okay, 506 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 8: they're going to run the way. 507 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 7: Even teams that don't. 508 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 8: Run the ball particularly well but still use play action 509 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 8: somehow get defenders to step up, and then all of 510 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 8: a sudden you get linebackers to step up, and that 511 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 8: creates those seams between the safeties and then with the 512 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 8: linebackers and where they are, and that's where the quick throws. 513 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 8: But yesterday, like I said, we saw with Trey Lance, 514 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 8: heavy play action, you know, and then they got the receiver, 515 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 8: got the receiver coming off the backside there it was 516 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 8: who was it that came from the backside there? Oh, 517 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 8: where'd my guy go? Crooms and Creams was coming and 518 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 8: Croams was kind of you could see the Creams was like, damn, 519 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 8: you gotta get me the ball man, you know. But 520 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 8: so if you're gonna do that, it's gonna be the 521 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 8: fake and you gotta take advantage. But Bell was sitting 522 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 8: right there. So anything like that, where do we get 523 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 8: disappointed with Dak at times? The interceptions where he doesn't 524 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 8: see the drop defense. So if you go heavy under 525 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 8: center and then you go play action, make sure that 526 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 8: those throws you see everybody that's in the drop areas 527 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 8: and make sure that doesn't turn into a turnover. 528 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 4: All right, Nick, give me an observation. 529 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, first two days and Pads, I had my eyes 530 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 5: on the trenches, I know, me and Brian spent a 531 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 5: little bit of time watching individual drills down there too. 532 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: But Tyler Guiden looks really strong in these first two 533 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: days as well as brock Hoffman. So if you're looking 534 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 5: at these two battles on the offensive line at left 535 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 5: tackle and center, those are the obviously the two leaders 536 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 5: in the clubhouse for me right now, I'll start with Guiden. 537 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 5: I think tempered expectations are probably realistic and healthy going 538 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 5: into this camp when it comes to Tyler Guiden and. 539 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 7: I've come on Mandy no, no, I know. 540 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: And I kind of teetered with this on Twitter a 541 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 5: little bit too, and fans were like, hey, we have 542 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: nothing to be excited about. Let us be excited about this, 543 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, you can be excited about it. 544 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 5: I want you to be, but also don't be down 545 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 5: in the dumps when he has a bad day, because 546 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 5: that will come. It's fourteen of experience that he has 547 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 5: that he's bringing into the NFL. Those lulls will come again. 548 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 5: That's not a knock on Tyler Guydon. Personally, I think 549 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 5: he's gonna be a great pro. But I think if 550 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 5: we look up a year or two years from now, 551 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 5: we'll look at the first round picks, he's probably somewhere 552 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: in the middle. But I think when we look four 553 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: or five years down the line, when we'll start talking 554 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: about those fifth year options, he's gonna be one of 555 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 5: the better picks in the first round. In my opinion, 556 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: I think it's just gonna take reps, it's gonna take development. 557 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 5: I mean, there are some some fans that are saying, hey, 558 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 5: we don't even want to see him week one. I 559 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you want to see him week one. 560 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: You want to see him go against Miles Garrett. If 561 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 5: he gets his butt whooped, he gets his butt whooped him, 562 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 5: that's a really good that's a really good learning lesson 563 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 5: for him. But these first two days in pads have 564 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: been great for Tyler Guiden. It reminded me very similar 565 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 5: to what he did the first day at the Senior 566 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 5: Bowl up in Mobile just six months ago. It was 567 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 5: actually six months to the day from the first padded 568 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 5: practice to that first day in Mobile, and then that 569 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 5: second day in Mobile would have you would have been 570 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: surprised to see him go in the first round. So 571 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: he's gonna have the ups, he's gonna have the downs. 572 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 5: He's new to the left tackle position. Yes, he's used 573 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: to protecting the blindside of the quarterback. He understands the 574 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 5: depth of pocket that he needs to create. He understands 575 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: the athleticism factor of that. But also there's still gonna 576 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 5: be some things that he has to work on as 577 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 5: far as mirroring his technique to the left side and 578 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 5: accounting for guys like Michael Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, Marshawn Neeland. 579 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: Those lulls will come, and. 580 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 5: Then brock Hoffman, I think he is leaps and bounds 581 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 5: above where the rest of the center competition is. 582 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 9: Right, he's been expect him to be as good as 583 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 9: he has been. 584 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm starting to get to the point to where 585 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if he's not the Week one starter. 586 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put a claim on anything yet because 587 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 5: we haven't seen anything in preseason games yet. Those games 588 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: obviously weigh so much more than what's going on out here. 589 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 5: But yeah, Hoffman is clearly taking a step forward. 590 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: BB. You could tell that he's starting to pick up. 591 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 5: On what's going on at the center position, but those 592 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: snaps are arrant right now, and he's gonna have to 593 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: He's gonna have to get those shotgun snaps in check. 594 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question on Hoffman and you 595 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 6: all can chime in on this. 596 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 4: I was. 597 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 6: I was particularly the video that I saw a couple 598 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 6: of people putting out there on Hoffman. It was a 599 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 6: play with or Mazzi, and I think you mentioned something 600 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 6: about it, and you and I kind of talked a 601 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 6: little bit about it on Twitter. But Hoffman basically got 602 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 6: pushed right back. Mazi just kind of bull rushed him 603 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 6: right back toward the quarterback Hoffman did. 604 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: Then Anchor settled in and he didn't like. 605 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 6: He didn't end up in the quarterback slap. That being said, 606 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 6: are there any concerns from the standpoint of the strength 607 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 6: of someone like Hoffman when it comes to playing the 608 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 6: center position, Because one thing we know when we saw this, 609 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 6: you know in the past with centers that were you 610 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 6: know at that position that there are times when you 611 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 6: will have to face in this league some defensive tackles 612 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 6: who are just big and yeah, just powerful men who 613 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 6: will push you back are there any concerns with his strength? 614 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: From that standpoint, I. 615 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 5: Think he's gonna have his learning moments this year for 616 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: sure when it comes to that. Like you said, this division, 617 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: it's not forgiving that it comes to that defensive tackle position. 618 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 5: He is still a third year undrafted free agent who 619 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 5: got cut in his very first spot, but he has 620 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 5: taken those steps forward to being a projected starter at 621 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 5: least at this point. When it comes from a strength perspective, 622 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 5: that is something he has been focusing a ton on 623 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 5: this offseason. 624 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: He's been one of the few. 625 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: Guys that has been in the weight room every single 626 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 5: day as far as trying to get stronger, trying to 627 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 5: perfect his technique. When it comes to guys that are 628 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 5: he knows are stronger than him, He's going to have 629 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 5: a guy across the line at some point that's going 630 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: to be twenty thirty pounds maybe heavier than him. How 631 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: is he going to account for that and this that 632 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 5: anchor and that's really important for him to show. And 633 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 5: I think maybe that's what you didn't see at times 634 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 5: from Tyler Biattish, and that's probably why the question is present, 635 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 5: is sometimes he got overwhelmed when it came from a 636 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 5: strength perspective. Yes he has the technique and yes there's that, 637 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: but when a guy is just simply stronger than him, 638 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 5: how can he account for that. I've seen it with 639 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: brock Kaffman a couple of times, because you saw it 640 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 5: and practice a couple of times. This time last year 641 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 5: was Jonathan Hankins, and that's what made me stand out. 642 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: That's what made brock Kaffman stand out initially to me 643 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 5: this time last year was he was able to keep 644 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: Hankins in check knowing that that guy had the thirty 645 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 5: pounds on him at that time. So I trust brock 646 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 5: Kaffman in a strength perspective, but I think it's gonna 647 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 5: come with its losses as well. 648 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: It's gonna come with its learning moments. 649 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 8: First, if want to apologize for my wet blanket colleague 650 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 8: here that I'm working. 651 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: With today, my bad. 652 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 7: He didn't take me down. 653 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 4: I was actually want to people. I was like, man, 654 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: I love and then I read his sweet and I 655 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: was like, I felt. 656 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 7: Like he was talking about the Texas Rangers on our broadcast. Everybody. 657 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 8: But I'll say this though, and you know he's You're 658 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 8: absolutely right. I'm just having fun with you there. The thing, 659 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 8: I'll tell you this where I was I was wrong 660 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 8: about going into this. 661 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 7: The learning curve for Cooper. 662 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 8: Bebe is deeper than I thought it was going to be. 663 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 8: And the reason and you're thinking plug and play. He's 664 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 8: always played tackle, he's played guard, he can play center. 665 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 8: He hasn't played center in a while, and now it's 666 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 8: having to relearn how. 667 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 7: To snap, how to make the shotgun snap. 668 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 8: You don't realize how hard it is. And I played 669 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 8: the position though a long long time ago. To snap, 670 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 8: to step, to hand placement, to make calls, all those things. 671 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 8: Cooper Beb is clearly able to do that. Brock Kaufman 672 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 8: has played at times very very well out here. You know, 673 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 8: there's no question. You know, Mike Salari, the line coach, 674 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 8: is like, oh, let's not forget. And we were even 675 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 8: on the draft coverage, Well, let's not forget brock Kaufman here. 676 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 8: You know, we're all like a Cooper baby, Cooper B. 677 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 8: You know, we're jumping up and down talking about that, 678 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 8: and all of a sudden it's like, you know, Mike 679 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 8: Solry is like, now. 680 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 7: We got this brock kauffmin you know, so I. 681 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 8: Think they kind of understood that maybe there was going 682 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 8: to be a little bit of a learning curve here. 683 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 8: It is pretty deep right now, and you know, and 684 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 8: that's and that's the thing he's dealing with. Could in 685 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 8: the next three weeks and two three preseason games, could 686 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 8: that be different. I think we are looking at brock 687 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 8: hoff And starting at center against the against the Cleveland Browns. 688 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 8: If I had to right now say what they were 689 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 8: going to do, yeah, it's going to be brock Hoffin 690 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 8: starting at center. 691 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: And I think an interesting conversation that might be more 692 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: appropriate down the line whenever these things get finalized, is 693 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 5: if Cooper BB does not win that center. 694 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 8: Position, we's got to go win it now. I mean 695 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 8: it's not it's not plug and play. Hey, we've drafted you, 696 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 8: let's go. Yeah, It's it's like, no, we've got a 697 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 8: guy that's he you know, brock Hoffins not falling down 698 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 8: out here. 699 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 7: I mean, he's he's doing his job. 700 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, if BB doesn't win that center spot, where does 701 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 5: he kind of go as far as what his role 702 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 5: will be moving forward? And he could be a legitimate 703 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 5: guy that you rotate in in the interior offensive line. 704 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: Injury that happens, But you also have TJ. Bass there. 705 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 5: See, we've talked about Zach Martin potentially he's he's teered 706 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 5: with the with the idea of retirement. 707 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: He's talked about it a couple of times this offseason. 708 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 5: If he were to sign a one year deal to 709 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: come back for another season, or a two year deal 710 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 5: to come back for a couple of more seasons. Again, 711 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: where are you going to start factoring in Cooper BB 712 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: And then you look up again, this is probably way 713 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: more appropriate down the line. I'm just kind of thinking 714 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: on it is do you maybe wish he took that 715 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: running back in the third round looking back on it? 716 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 7: But yeah, where were you and I needed you on 717 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 7: that night? Yeah, I. 718 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 8: Hey, hey Cooper bb ye, And I'm like, man, there's 719 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 8: this running back at USC. 720 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 7: We need to talk. 721 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, but no, you're you know, you're absolutely right because 722 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 8: I think if they had to play right now, if 723 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 8: something and if something would happen to the interior, I 724 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 8: think TJ. Bass is our guy. I don't think it's 725 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 8: I don't think it's Cooper b B. I think you 726 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 8: know what they need to do is they need to 727 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 8: keep Cooper BB playing playing center. Just keep keeping keep 728 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 8: playing center, Bass, even though Bass there was a couple 729 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 8: of times yesterday guy, uh, you know, our our defensive 730 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 8: tackle Rogers got him a little bit yesterday and so 731 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 8: on a on, a couple of moves and stuff. 732 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 7: So I was kind of like, Okay, this is. 733 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 8: All right, but I just keep Cooper bb at center 734 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 8: and then, you know, Bass, let him be that veteran guy. 735 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 8: A veteran, he's a second year guy, basically the to 736 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 8: be that guy that if they had something to go 737 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 8: on at either guard spot, he'd be the fill in guy. 738 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: Tell you what you mentioned, Justin Rodgers, keep an eye 739 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: out there. 740 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 7: I tell you what Justin ron I this is. And 741 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 7: I'm not. 742 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 8: And again I go down there at the defensive tackle 743 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 8: spot every single day. I spend the first hour practice 744 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 8: going down there and watching Chef Sigin and those guys 745 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 8: work down there, and I'm trying to kind of figure 746 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 8: out what are they teaching, Mozzie, What are they teaching 747 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 8: the defensive tackles, what do they There are things that 748 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 8: that that Rogers is doing. There are things that Rogers 749 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 8: is doing. Do you get a little rain on you 750 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 8: there or something? 751 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: Well? 752 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 9: I keep seeing random rain drops fall, but I guess 753 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 9: it's the tree coming from. 754 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 8: But the the thing with Rogers, as you mentioned, there's 755 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 8: some things he's doing with his. 756 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 7: Hands and control and movement, and. 757 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 8: You're like going, man, if we were if Mozzie was 758 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 8: doing this right now, we'd be we'd be throwing a parade, 759 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 8: as I like to say, you know, And and they're trying. 760 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 7: I mean, they are coaching him as hard. 761 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 8: I mean, with Mazie it's going to be about it's 762 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 8: either it's either going to succeed or it's gonna break him. 763 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 8: That's that's how hard they're coaching him right now. And 764 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 8: so but Rogers and those guys are picking things up 765 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 8: down there, they really are. 766 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: Scanina's been tearing into Mazzi a few times. 767 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know what, like I said, he you 768 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 8: know there he's asking him to do it his way. 769 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 7: He's you know, it's it's step hands up up, not out. 770 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 7: And then there's a f bomb in there. 771 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 9: Doing it very nicely. 772 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 7: But that's how that's how. 773 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 6: You know. 774 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 8: And it's and it's not like it's like again Mazzy 775 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 8: again again. I mean, it's like five reps in a row, 776 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 8: and they're trying. I mean, and Mazzi is try, I mean, 777 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 8: but the others seem to be picking it up a 778 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 8: little bit better and executing it a little better at 779 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 8: this point than what you're getting with Mazzie right now. 780 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 8: Strong guy, but man, they're they're trying so hard to 781 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 8: work on his technique. 782 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: Feet, hands are We're gonna take our final break. We'll 783 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: come back. 784 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 6: We've got into this offensive line conversation, so I'll continue 785 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 6: with that. 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A name that hasn't come up yet for 843 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 6: us on our show this year, but I think is 844 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 6: very important to Cowboys fans or should be, is Terrence Steele. 845 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 6: He's a guy that has shown, you know, really good 846 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 6: things throughout his career here with the Cowboys. One of 847 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 6: those guys that came from being an underdog to being 848 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 6: a starter and performing well and then had the injury 849 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 6: and last year kind of inconsistent results. What have you 850 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 6: guys seen from him so far this year at camp? 851 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 7: I'll tell you. 852 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 8: Two days ago, I got stuck on the VIP side 853 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 8: of the field, so it was all about watching left 854 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 8: tackle play, which was okay because Geiton was over here 855 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 8: being left tackle guy. So yesterday I made it a 856 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 8: point to work my way around and watch a little 857 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 8: bit more. And then when they were doing the Mojo moment, 858 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 8: you know, the two point plays, we got to see 859 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 8: the tackle, you know. On our site going the other way, 860 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 8: so got to see him a little bit. I think 861 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 8: he's moving around a little bit better than last year. 862 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 8: I think he looks a little bit more confident in 863 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 8: what's going now. You watch him and having to deal 864 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 8: with parsons, and parsons is a pain in the ass 865 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 8: to deal with, especially when it's like it's the you know, 866 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 8: it's the big mojo moment. We got to get a 867 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 8: stop kind of thing, because he is going to he's 868 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 8: going to go flying down inside and you're gonna have 869 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 8: to try and cut him off, and he's just gonna 870 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 8: be powerful and he's gonna overpower you. But I think 871 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 8: the movement, the pass sets the things that have been watching, 872 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 8: like in the one on one stuff, he looks comfortably. 873 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 7: He looks like he's back to a little bit of 874 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 7: his old self with the. 875 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 8: Way that his hands and his feet kind of work together. 876 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 8: Though I don't think he's ever gonna be a really 877 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 8: really strong guy, but I think the athletic ability is 878 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 8: always going to be his calling card, and that looks 879 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 8: like it's coming back to him. 880 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 5: You are starting to see what a full offseason can 881 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 5: do for him now. I mean, there was enough trust 882 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 5: in him last year coming off that ACL injury to 883 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 5: give him that five year, eighty two and a half 884 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 5: million dollar contract, and. 885 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 3: In the back half of the season. 886 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 5: I'd put those last six games of the season that 887 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 5: Terrence Steel puts together, I'd put that up with any 888 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 5: six games he's had in his career. Like, I feel 889 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 5: really strongly about how he finished the season, even though 890 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 5: he started it really rough. He really had to find 891 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 5: his footing whenever he was making his way back from 892 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 5: that ACL injury. But I think coming in this year, 893 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 5: you see that full off season, you see that comp 894 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: and that he was able to build again. It's gonna 895 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 5: be seeing it in pads and seeing it a little 896 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 5: bit more as time goes on. 897 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 3: But so far, so good. 898 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 5: As far as what I like from Terrence Steele, you 899 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 5: have three trusted guys on that offensive line in my eyes, 900 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 5: and Terrence Steel's one of them. 901 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think not everyone is gonna be great, not 902 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 9: everyone's gonna be bad. You're gonna have those guys that 903 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 9: are gonna be your solid guys that they're just gonna 904 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 9: be there. They're gonna do their job, and they're gonna 905 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 9: have moments where they do get dominated and they lose 906 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 9: the battle. But I think he's a solid guy. He's 907 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 9: the least of my worries right now when you look 908 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 9: at the rest of the team, even in the rest 909 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 9: of the line. We've talked about the other guys, but 910 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 9: I think he he looks like he's been I haven't 911 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 9: noticed anything that gives me a whole lot to worry 912 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 9: about and be like, man, we gotta find somebody else. 913 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 9: And no, we got enough problems and he's not one 914 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 9: of them. 915 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 4: Problems all right, So lit'sten, Brian. 916 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 6: We did need to still get to your observation, give 917 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 6: us a camp observation that you've seen over the last 918 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 6: days and Pats. 919 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 8: You know what, when you watch Trey Lance thro the football, 920 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 8: there's problems with him throwing the ball outside the numbers. 921 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 8: At least then until yesterday's practice, I thought he threw 922 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 8: the ball down the field better, but to the outside. 923 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 8: So but the thing that I worry about Trey Lance, 924 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 8: and we've seen three opportunities. Now, there was a time 925 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 8: when they were running a team period. They were it's 926 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 8: a two minute period. They were driving the field. This 927 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 8: was with no pads, this was shells and they're coming 928 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 8: down and it came down to the final play, and 929 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 8: it's a quick it's quick scramble. Get everybody to the line, 930 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 8: try and get everybody go in defense. Plasters there, guys, 931 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 8: and now there's no time and he takes off running 932 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 8: and he gets stopped. Lost opportunity, goal line situation. Here, 933 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 8: what happens is heavy play action like I was talking about. 934 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 8: They got, they got, they got. The creams coming across. 935 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 8: He doesn't see creams, or he thinks he sees creams, 936 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 8: but Bell standing right there makes the throw. Another red 937 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 8: zone mistake. Then what happens yesterday? Two minute drill. They're 938 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 8: driving down there, driving the ball, driving well, he gets 939 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 8: them down, has an incompletion to the sidelines. Now they're 940 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 8: down to their last play and here we are six seconds. 941 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 7: What's the one thing you can't do? 942 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 8: Can't hold the ball? Can't you got to get rid 943 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 8: of the ball? Takes a snap, drops back, plays plays, 944 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 8: developing clock runs out, no points. It's three times that 945 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 8: we've seen Trey Lance in those red zone, tight red 946 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 8: zone situations come up empty. You know, I think there's 947 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 8: some things about him. I think it's all about the learning, 948 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 8: the learning curve, the experience that he's getting out here. 949 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 8: But if you said something it was like, Trey Lance 950 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 8: is not accurate. Yeah, there's there's some truth to that, 951 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 8: especially outside the numbers. But I thought he was better yesterday. 952 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 8: But the thing that concerns me is three red zone trips, 953 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 8: oh for three. Two of them were situations where he's 954 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 8: got to be quicker with his decision making and make 955 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 8: the throws. And then, like I say, the interception he 956 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 8: just didn't see or Keith Bell, then they're going to 957 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 8: have to look at him, maybe analyze a little bit 958 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 8: more for him. 959 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as just being quicker that I think 960 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 5: that could be probably an indictment on all of Trey 961 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 5: Lance's game so far out here at camp. He's got 962 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 5: to be quicker, he's got to be more decisive. You 963 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 5: haven't quite seen that. And it was it was funny 964 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 5: because you finally saw him build some confidence there. Yeah, 965 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 5: on that two minute drive, had those three straight completions 966 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 5: and it was three different receivers time Billie Johnson, Tlburt 967 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 5: and Brooks and he gets down the field in a 968 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 5: hurry and it's like, okay, okay, we're starting to see 969 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 5: this confidence built, right, and then again that indecisive that 970 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 5: shows up in the right zone. So preseason is obviously 971 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 5: going to be the biggest opportunity for him. You know, 972 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 5: he he could go out and have a huge preseason 973 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 5: game and we forget all about this. 974 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 3: But it's not trending that way. I'll say that. 975 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 976 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 6: The interesting thing, we've seen that before with quarterbacks that 977 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 6: out here they aren't as great. 978 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 4: And then you get him over on the lights. 979 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 6: I think that's a great example, like the lights and 980 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 6: then all of a sudden. 981 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 8: In preseason sixteen was one of I mean, he's stilling 982 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 8: the ball, like you know, he's looks like Steve Young 983 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 8: out there. 984 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, so, and by the way, part of 985 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 6: part of practice is kind of working through things that 986 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 6: you kind of you're finding out can I make this throw? 987 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 4: You're finding out did I make that reathrow? 988 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 6: You're learning out here, so you don't want to put 989 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 6: too much into it, but yeah you have to. 990 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 8: Just like you say, I think everybody is making a 991 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 8: big deal about his accuracy. I think that could get better. 992 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 8: It's like you get down, like like Nick was talking about, 993 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 8: you drive the ball, you're making positive plays, and all 994 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 8: of a sudden, you have got to get rid of 995 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 8: the ball here. If you don't see it, get rid 996 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 8: of it. Let us fight for another play. You can't 997 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 8: use up all six seconds down here, you know. And 998 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 8: like you say, hey, they you know, after the interception, 999 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 8: they you know, Brian Schottenheimer put Cooper Russian there, go yeah, 1000 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 8: go in there. 1001 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 9: It's because I was I was super excited when we 1002 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 9: got here. It's like, he has this. The way he 1003 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 9: carries himself would make you think that his plate is way. 1004 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 7: Better than He doesn't have a lot of experience. 1005 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 4: He really, he didn't have a lot coming into him. 1006 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 7: He really doesn't. 1007 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 8: And the more you dig into his background, the more 1008 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 8: you're like, going, he's only played that much, you know, 1009 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 8: So you're right, the everything every rep he gets out 1010 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 8: here is great, Every preseason snap he. 1011 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 7: Gets is great, you know. 1012 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 8: And you know, but that was the one thing when 1013 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 8: you're asking an observation, it's like, Okay, don't worry about 1014 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 8: the accuracy pert, because that can come what's going on 1015 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 8: down in the red zone. You have three trips down there, 1016 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 8: and you're expecting three three scores, and you have an 1017 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 8: interception and two plays where you run out of time. 1018 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 7: You know, it got to be a little bit more 1019 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 7: on there. 1020 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 4: All right, I appreciate you guys, Jonas. 1021 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 6: We'll be back on next Monday and we'll dive into 1022 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 6: all things happened this weekend. We got an interesting practice. 1023 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 6: We'll actually be streaming the practice live and so you 1024 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 6: have an opportunity to be able to check out some 1025 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 6: of practice, listen to some of them. Is that Sundays, Saturdaday. Saturday, Yeah, Saturday, 1026 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 6: our producer got me all switched around here. 1027 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 4: Saturday is Satday. 1028 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 6: Okay, good, So Saturday, and we'll have some of our 1029 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 6: analysts on. They'll be walking you through practice and what 1030 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 6: you're seeing out there. 1031 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 4: Till then. I Brian brought us Ambergarcia and Nick Harris. 1032 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 4: I am Derek Eagleton. 1033 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 6: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 1034 00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 6: Com Radio. 1035 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1036 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.