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Speaker 2: Let's roll.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official.

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Speaker 1: Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I'm John schmelk Well, folks, who are back with our

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Speaker 3: normal Friday player interview and game preview podcasts.

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Speaker 1: It'll be the same every week.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to a member of the Giants, we'll talk

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Speaker 3: to head coach Brian Dable, and we'll talk to a.

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Speaker 1: Beat reporter covering the opposing team.

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Speaker 3: But as always, why don't we start off with Dorry Jackson,

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Speaker 3: who was a big matchup with Ceedee Lamb this week.

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Speaker 3: He'll also talk about the Giants young quarterbacks and the

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Speaker 3: matchup against the Dallas Cowboys, not to mention some big

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Speaker 3: picture stuff with the Giants. And now we're joined by

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Speaker 3: the vet in the Giants DV Room. Dorry Jackson, Dory,

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Speaker 3: how are you man? I'm doing great, dude, all right,

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Speaker 3: So let's uh, let's start here. You've been around good

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Speaker 3: teams in your career. You've been around teams that have

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Speaker 3: gone and fear in the playoffs. You've been teams that

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Speaker 3: haven't gone so far in the playoffs. What's your feel

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Speaker 3: for this team coming out of camp, given what you

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Speaker 3: know about what NFL teams should look like when you're

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Speaker 3: starting a season, I.

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Speaker 4: Think for us being very competitive and being able to

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Speaker 4: just be another year on this system, I think that's

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Speaker 4: always a plus and it's a pleasure to have another year.

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Speaker 4: And then the guys that we bring in. You always

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Speaker 4: know that this league is.

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Speaker 5: Not going to be the same.

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Speaker 4: Everything changes, but to have those who come and come

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Speaker 4: in this league and come in this system understanding what

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Speaker 4: we're trying to build and where we want to go,

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Speaker 4: and I think we're doing a good job at that

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Speaker 3: What's different when you get to regular season game one? Right,

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Speaker 3: you've done scrimmages against the lines, you've done preseason games,

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Speaker 3: you've done a bunch of practices, but obviously something is

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Speaker 3: So what is a player is it almost hard to

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Speaker 4: I think the preseason does gives you a good tale

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Speaker 4: need to go out there and practice, exhort yourself, exalt

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Speaker 4: going to stress you. So when you get to the game,

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Speaker 4: you've been in those positions, you seeing those looks, so

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Speaker 3: What is it about the way Wink and Daves coaches

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 4: Wink does a great job of letting us be ourselves.

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Speaker 4: He lets the defense be our defense, although he has

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna choose your horn, but he's also gonna

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like an older brother or cousin whatever may be

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Speaker 5: To understand that.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to disappoint my brothers, you know, the

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Speaker 1: You mentioned to keep it real sessions. Sessions.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's easy to easier to have those conversations one

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Speaker 1: In the room in front of the group right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Why does that work?

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Speaker 3: Because I feel like for some guys that might be

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Speaker 4: I think it works because you're all on the same page.

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Speaker 4: You understand now, you know where you're seeing that, where

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Speaker 4: not feeling that. But at the same time, when you

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Speaker 4: So we're all on the same page. It's kind of like,

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Speaker 4: you know, been at the family table and they say,

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Speaker 4: you know, how was your day. Everybody get their chance

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Speaker 3: Where do you think specifically this defense can make the

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest improvement for us is to when

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Speaker 4: adversity hits. I mean, obviously, seeing thee with seventy seven

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Speaker 4: you know, we won that one game and get to

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. But I think from that standpoint, understanding that feeling,

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Speaker 5: I think that's the improvement.

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Speaker 4: They're just going in the week one and just sacrificing

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Speaker 3: We talked on the Giant Otle podcast back in June

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Speaker 3: at Didn't Miny Camp when I asked you about Deontay,

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Speaker 1: Talked about them maturity.

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Speaker 3: They're a little bit different once you got to see

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Speaker 3: them on the field in camp, pads contact. What more

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Speaker 4: I think where I've seen them improve at the most

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Because you get to play with us, you get to

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Speaker 5: So I appreciate that a lot.

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Speaker 4: You know about those two and I think that's where

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Speaker 4: I see the most improvement, like understanding football, and even

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Speaker 4: when we're out there and just discussing different things, anticipating

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Speaker 4: and asking questions, what do you think gonna happen here?

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Speaker 4: You know why you think that even when we're in there,

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Speaker 4: we're wrong? He asks, you know a bunch of questions.

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Speaker 4: Why what's your thought press on this? Let me know,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you what I would think. And then

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Speaker 4: he asks us, you know, how do you think or

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Speaker 4: what would you think? And I think them learning every

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm sure you're seeing a bunch of rookies that

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Speaker 3: it's like, all right, you might be physically gifted, but

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Speaker 1: And understand the game.

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Speaker 3: But what makes Trey and Deontay different that they are

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Speaker 4: I think it goes with I don't want to say

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Speaker 4: They approach the game the right way, they respect it,

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Speaker 4: from that standpoint, they take care of their bodies. They're

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Speaker 5: And they do a great job of that.

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Speaker 1: And this is not to minimize the work they've done.

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Speaker 3: But how does wink and the way he understands how

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Speaker 5: I think that's helpful, helpful a lot.

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Speaker 4: And having the like I said, the accountability from your

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Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna he's not gonna always tell you

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Speaker 4: It's like, you know, pressure is good. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: hold us accountable as well. So that's what I appreciate

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Speaker 4: the most about. It is not one sided, like if

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Speaker 4: to do the same for you.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about you.

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Speaker 3: We haven't talked about you, and you've asked a million

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Speaker 3: times are you comfortable playing in the slot? You know?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to do it?

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna ask you that because answered a million times,

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Speaker 3: because you have done it before. It's like, you played

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Speaker 1: You've done it.

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Speaker 8: The Giants and Cowboys kick off the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: How's everything on your end?

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Speaker 8: at least on the surface, is the fact that Kellen

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Speaker 8: Moore is no longer calling the plays. He's with the

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Speaker 8: Chargers as the offensive coordinator, and Mike McCarthy now is

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Speaker 8: going to take over play calling too for the first

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Speaker 8: time since twenty eighteen. And they also added Brian Schawnenheimer

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Speaker 8: to the staff. So how much do you think these

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Speaker 8: changes alter the dynamics of what we're going to see

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Speaker 8: out of the Cowboys offense this season.

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Speaker 7: I think what you see from the offense is really

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Speaker 7: going to look pretty similar to what you've seen really

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Speaker 7: since Dak has been the quarterback. Right. I don't think

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Speaker 7: there's gonna be some new play that Mike McCarthy's gonna

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Speaker 7: show and we're gonna be like, ooh, where did that

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Speaker 7: come from. I do think like things that will emphasize

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Speaker 7: maybe their red zone packages and things like that, their

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Speaker 7: pass protection that'll be a little different that maybe like

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Speaker 7: the naked eye won't pick up. But you know, Mike

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Speaker 7: McCarthy is a proven play caller in this league. You know,

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Speaker 7: obviously had a lot of success in Green Bay with

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Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers with Brett Farv had an offense that average

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Speaker 7: twenty six points a game, had a bunch of yards

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Speaker 7: per game. But there's some pressure on them because the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys offense has been really good statistically the last four

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Speaker 7: years with Kellen Moore, is running things the top five

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Speaker 7: and points and yards, third down, red zone, all that stuff.

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Speaker 7: So if it doesn't reach those standards, then people are

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Speaker 7: going to wonder why you made the change or why

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Speaker 7: you felt you needed to make the change. So this

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Speaker 7: adds just a little more to McCarthy's plate this year

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Speaker 7: and in his fourth year at the Cowboys to show

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Speaker 7: that he can be a true difference maker.

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Speaker 8: Speaking of the pressure that comes with him now taking

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Speaker 8: on play calling duties Todd Earlier this offseason, McCarthy and

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Speaker 8: Passing made comments that perhaps there'd be more of an

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Speaker 8: emphasis on the run game, And I know when I

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Speaker 8: heard that, I said to myself, well, Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 8: three star wide receivers, hard to believe he's going to

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Speaker 8: consistently take the.

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Speaker 2: Ball out of the hands of his star quarterback.

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Speaker 8: But do you think that was more to maybe justify

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Speaker 8: why they moved away from Kellen Moore or is there

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Speaker 8: really nothing to read into those statements.

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Speaker 7: I think those comments got misconstrued a little bit because

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Speaker 7: what he was talking about with how they played really

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty where they were checking it all over

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Speaker 7: the place, even after Dak got hurt and didn't run

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Speaker 7: the ball specific very well. Last year they ran it

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Speaker 7: five hundred and thirty times. I'll be sunned if they

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Speaker 7: run it five hundred and thirty times this year in

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Speaker 7: the Mike McCarthy because let's go to Mike McCarthy's track

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Speaker 7: record in Green Bay. They weren't run heavy teams at all.

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Speaker 7: You know, they had success with the run, but they

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Speaker 7: were a team that leaned on its pass. And he

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Speaker 7: talked about before, you know, when you want to be

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Speaker 7: a play caller, you don't think up what runs can

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Speaker 7: lead to wins. You think of the pass plays that

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Speaker 7: can big lead to chunk plays and touchdowns and things

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Speaker 7: like that. So I don't think you're going to see

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Speaker 7: this become ground and pound or anything like that. Or

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Speaker 7: you know, if you use a giant, it's not gonna

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Speaker 7: be the nineteen ninety Giants right where it was. Otis

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Speaker 7: Anderson runs the ball and all that. Right, this is

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Speaker 7: going to be it'll be a balanced offense. But I

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Speaker 7: don't think you're going to see the Cowboys morph into

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Speaker 7: something that any currently percentage wise than what they've.

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Speaker 8: Bet On a related note, in terms of the offensive philosophy,

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Speaker 8: you go back to last season.

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Speaker 2: Everybody really around the league.

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Speaker 8: Is emphasizing the fact that Dak Prescott led the NFL

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Speaker 8: in interceptions with fifteen and Todd you watched every single snap,

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Speaker 8: So if anybody can add context of this conversation, it

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Speaker 8: would be you. I think you go back, you look

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Speaker 8: at Dak's interceptions, about half of them were off of

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Speaker 8: wide receiver's fingertips or off of their chest, including the

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Speaker 8: pick six by the Jacksonville Jaguars that won the game.

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Speaker 8: The reason I bring that up is, is not enough

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Speaker 8: context being added to the dialogue as to Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 8: turnover issues last season, or when you go back, do

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Speaker 8: you think there's some justification in terms of him needing

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Speaker 8: to rethink where he's going with the football.

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Speaker 7: Every interception goes on the quarterbacks record fairlyer or not, right,

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Speaker 7: because every win goes on the quarterbacks record fairly or not.

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Speaker 7: So you know Dak understands that and gets it. But

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Speaker 7: I think you know that you meant in context. We

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Speaker 7: don't live in a society where we want context. We

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Speaker 7: want we want the black and white. And you know

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Speaker 7: Dax stinks. And every patch he threw was picked off

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Speaker 7: last year. But yeah, you mentioned a handful of them

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Speaker 7: were and it's were off of receiver's hands or or

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Speaker 7: or things like that. But there were a number of

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Speaker 7: them though, where he made poor decisions. And I can

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Speaker 7: think of Chicago late in the first half, he tries

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Speaker 7: to hit Steedee Lamb down the middle of the field

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Speaker 7: when he didn't need to, and he made a game,

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Speaker 7: made it a game again. He put brought the Bears

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Speaker 7: back into it uh touchdown. He tried to force the

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Speaker 7: ball down the middle at Green Bay on their second

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Speaker 7: or third drive that gets picked off in the end zone.

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Speaker 7: Not a great route by the by the tight end

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Speaker 7: or Ceedee Lamb on that one. But throw it in

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Speaker 7: the stands and kick a field go and go up

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Speaker 7: ten nothing, then maybe that doesn't turn into an overtime loss.

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Speaker 7: So I think there were times where he just made

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Speaker 7: bad decisions based on the coverage and what he saw

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Speaker 7: and time and score of games, and that's where that

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Speaker 7: will need to improve. There will be a deflected path

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Speaker 7: that's going to go off for receivers hand and get

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Speaker 7: picked off. Every quarterback has those. I think he doesn't

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Speaker 7: needs to do a better job of controlling the ones

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Speaker 7: where he's in charge of it with his decision making,

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Speaker 7: with understanding the time and score better. And Mike McCarty's history.

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Speaker 7: Sorry to ramble here, but Mike McCarty's history suggests he

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Speaker 7: will cut down significantly on the interception. You know, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 7: we all know he never threw an interception, So was

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Speaker 7: that Mike or is that Rogers give him some credit?

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Speaker 7: I guess, But appoint to Brett Farr of the year

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Speaker 7: before McCarthy came into the league, came to Green Bay.

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Speaker 7: Brett led the NFL and interceptions that year. The next

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Speaker 7: year with Mike McCarty in his first year cut him

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Speaker 7: down by about half. So there's something about McCarthy's scheme

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Speaker 7: that allows quarterbacks to stay away from the interception.

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Speaker 2: That's a very good point.

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Speaker 8: Plus, I would say Dax's track record shows that he's

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Speaker 8: been fairly good in terms of the interception. To Parliament

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Speaker 8: fifteen was on the way high side in terms of

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Speaker 8: his individual season highs. With respect to the targets that

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Speaker 8: he's going to be working with, we know, see Dee

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Speaker 8: Lamb and Michael Galluper in the mix. The new arrival

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Speaker 8: is obviously Brandon Cooks, who has really been a staple

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Speaker 8: of one thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yards throughout his career.

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Speaker 8: I look at him todd as perhaps filling the void

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Speaker 8: left behind two years ago by a Maury Cooper because

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Speaker 8: he's such a good route runner. He's that polished veteran.

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Speaker 8: How much do you think they're getting an a Marii

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Speaker 8: Cooper replacement essentially out of Brandon Cooks this season?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you hit it. I mean it gives

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Speaker 7: them another target that really he didn't have last year.

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Speaker 7: You know, Noah Brown was a good story as a

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Speaker 7: former six seven round pick. You know, he probably had

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Speaker 7: more catches last year than he had if you add

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Speaker 7: his house eight time in his Cowboys time together before

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Speaker 7: last year. So Cooks gives these guys a speed threat.

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Speaker 7: He turned thirty. It seems like he's been in the

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Speaker 7: league forever. It's going to be a year ten, but

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Speaker 7: only now turning thirty. He can still run and you know,

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Speaker 7: Dak talked about that in training camp, how every time

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Speaker 7: he would watch the practice DAP, there goes Cooks just

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Speaker 7: flying by a guy. So that's an element that maybe

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Speaker 7: even Cooper didn't bring to this team. He was a

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Speaker 7: great route runner and was good after the catch, but

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Speaker 7: may enough just straight line speed. Brandon Cooks give him

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Speaker 7: something that they don't have, and this allows Michael Gallup

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Speaker 7: to be in that role he was when it was Lamb,

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Speaker 7: Cooper and him. This allowed Ceedee Lamb maybe to get

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Speaker 7: to see some different coverages as well. So I think

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Speaker 7: you get Brandon Cooks for a fifth round pick from Houston.

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Speaker 7: That's a heck of a trade for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: We're talking with Todd Archer, Cowboys ESPN NFL Nation reporter

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Speaker 8: as we set the stage for the regular season opener

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Speaker 8: between the Giants and Cowboys Sunday at MetLife Stadium. The

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Speaker 8: other noticeable change in terms of Persondel Todd is in

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Speaker 8: the backfield. They've had a one two punch between Heikiel

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Speaker 8: Elliott and Tony Pollard. They cut ties with Zeke a

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Speaker 8: little bit younger now behind Tony Pollard. Plus he's coming

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Speaker 8: off that leg ankle injury that he suffered in the

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Speaker 8: playoff against the Niners. So a two potter for you. A.

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Speaker 8: How has Tony looked in terms of being back to

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Speaker 8: full health for this opener? And B how good do

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Speaker 8: they feel about the depth behind him considering there's not

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Speaker 8: a lot of experience there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly on the first part of that with Pollard,

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Speaker 7: he looks like he did before. It's easy to say

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Speaker 7: that when you just watching the training camp practice but

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Speaker 7: not really tackling. He did play in the preseason health wise,

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Speaker 7: though they say he's one hundred percent. He said he

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Speaker 7: was really one hundred percent. Going back to about June

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Speaker 7: asked yesterday, hey, do you need to take a hit,

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Speaker 7: and he goes, yeah, you know, a hit really wouldn't

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Speaker 7: be too bad. So, you know, because it's ben zince

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Speaker 7: January where he played in the game, but this is

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Speaker 7: the first time in really his life. Maybe go back

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Speaker 7: to high school where he's going to be the lead back.

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Speaker 7: He had one hundred and ninety three carries last year

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Speaker 7: two thousand and seven yards. Has been a big play

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Speaker 7: threat really since he got here out of Memphis as

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Speaker 7: a fourth round pick. But this changes the dynamic a

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Speaker 7: little bit, and it was a little bit like Ceedee

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Speaker 7: Lamb a year ago, right like can he be the

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Speaker 7: number one? With Amari Cooper gone? And he proved that

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Speaker 7: he that he could be. With Tony Pollard now now,

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Speaker 7: ceed was a number one in high school, was a

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Speaker 7: number one at Oklahoma, was one of the best guys

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Speaker 7: coming out of the draft in twenty twenty with Pollard,

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Speaker 7: as I mentioned, you know, can you be a number one?

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys believe he can. They put the franchise dad

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Speaker 7: on him, and he's shown that he can handle or

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Speaker 7: be a big play contributor, contributor, But how much more

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Speaker 7: than one hundred and ninety three carries can he get?

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Speaker 7: And that gets you to the second part of the

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Speaker 7: question you asked, is that death and it's untested? You

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Speaker 7: know right now it's gonna Rico Dwell is there number

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Speaker 7: two back? I think he has seven carries in the

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Speaker 7: last three years or something like that. And then Ducewan

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Speaker 7: a sixth round pick. You know that there's some big

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Speaker 7: question marks here. They like both of those guys, but

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Speaker 7: they've rolled with that two headed monster with Elliott and

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Speaker 7: Pollard the last few years. And even if it wasn't

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Speaker 7: so much split in twenty nineteen twenty twenty. Between the two,

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Speaker 7: they still knew Tony could do the job. With these

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Speaker 7: two guys, you really don't know. So I think it's

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Speaker 7: going to be a feeling out process, maybe early in

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Speaker 7: the season. And that's going back to we talked about earlier.

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Speaker 7: That's why I find it hard to believe that they're

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Speaker 7: going to run it more than five hundred and thirty

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Speaker 7: one times when they don't have that complementary, known, complimentary

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Speaker 7: back the way they did with Elliott and Pollard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need the personnel to deliver on that.

658
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Speaker 8: And then of course the running backs go hand in

659
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Speaker 8: hand with the offensive line, and the Cowboys have continuity

660
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Speaker 8: and decent health coming into the season, especially with Tyrone

661
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Speaker 8: Smith ready to go at left tackle. However, the million

662
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Speaker 8: dollar question is Tyler Smith, their rookie who had a

663
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Speaker 8: really good campaign last year, all of a sudden coming

664
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Speaker 8: down with a hamstring injury. So as we record this

665
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Speaker 8: here on this Thursday leading up to the Sunday game, Todd,

666
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Speaker 8: where would you assess Tyler's status going in and in

667
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 8: the event that he can't go, who would be the

668
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Speaker 8: next man up here?

669
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Speaker 7: Chuma Dooga I think would be the guy that they

670
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 7: would start, not because he might be the best guy,

671
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Speaker 7: but at least he has experienced. He played for the

672
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Speaker 7: Jets for the last few years. TJ. Bass is an

673
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Speaker 7: undrafted free agent at Oregon. While they like his potential

674
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Speaker 7: and he showed some good things in the preseason, I

675
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Speaker 7: don't know if throwing him out there right away the

676
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 7: first game of this this guy's career against those defensive

677
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 7: tackles would make the most sense. I think I wish

678
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 7: I could. I haven't talked to anybody yet after practice.

679
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 7: Tyler Smith did not practice on Thursday. I think there's

680
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Speaker 7: some optimism that he'll be able to get out there.

681
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Speaker 7: The Cowboys have a different practice schedule than a lot

682
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 7: of teams, where they don't practice on Friday, and they

683
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 7: do do a more of a to say, a combination

684
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 7: practice of what a normal Friday is on Saturday as

685
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 7: a as a ramp up to the game. Will know

686
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Speaker 7: more by Saturday. Yesterday I didn't think he was going

687
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 7: to play in the game, But today I'm starting to

688
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 7: think that there's a chance, just based on what we

689
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 7: saw in his rehab work off to the side today,

690
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 7: he looked like he was a guy that was better

691
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Speaker 7: but as McCarthy's pointed out, he's never had this injury before,

692
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Speaker 7: and the return to play on a guy like that

693
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 7: a little different when you don't have that history of

694
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Speaker 7: knowing how he will deal with it like you would

695
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 7: a veteran. So the timing of it couldn't have been

696
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 7: worse for the Cowboys to have this question that left

697
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 7: guard because, as you mentioned, you want to have that

698
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Speaker 7: continuity upfront, and they would have had at least some

699
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Speaker 7: of that going into the opener. If they don't, then

700
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 7: it's a mix and match that they've really had the

701
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Speaker 7: entire time McCarthy's been to coach.

702
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Speaker 8: Well, they definitely have continuity Todd on the defensive side

703
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 8: of the ball. As we flipped this script, Dan quinn

704
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Speaker 8: stays on, I've said this throughout the offseason. I think

705
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Speaker 8: maybe one of the most valuable transactions for the Cowboys

706
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 8: this offseason was the fact that they didn't lose him

707
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Speaker 8: to a head coaching gig.

708
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Speaker 2: Because they've led.

709
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Speaker 8: The NFL and takeaways each of the last two seasons,

710
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 8: and we know how effective the pass rush has been.

711
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Speaker 8: I guess from a big picture perspective, given how consistent

712
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 8: this group has been, how much more can dan Quinn

713
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 8: get out of this unit in terms of elevating them

714
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Speaker 8: to new heights this season?

715
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Speaker 7: In your mind, I think that's what they're banking on,

716
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 7: that they will be better than they were a year ago.

717
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 7: And you know the first what six of the first

718
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 7: seven games that they didn't allow more than twenty points

719
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 7: in the game. But you know they've allowed too many

720
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Speaker 7: big plays the last and dan quinniby be the first

721
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Speaker 7: one to tell you that. So that's something that they

722
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 7: really need to monitor. They have to go from. Look,

723
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Speaker 7: they were sixth in the league and scoring defense last

724
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 7: year that needs to improve. Their yardage rank was twenty

725
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 7: second or thirteenth in the league. That needs to prove

726
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 7: and it can because now they have the core of

727
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 7: these guys maybe save one or two are going into

728
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 7: their third year or dan Quinn is a coordinator, he

729
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 7: knows them, they know him, and they can do some

730
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 7: more things maybe that they haven't able to do the

731
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Speaker 7: first two years. I think they've the biggest acquisition maybe

732
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Speaker 7: I talked about Cookson offense, is Stefan Gilmore getting him

733
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 7: from Indianapolis. Yeah, that gives the Cowboys a legit cornerback

734
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 7: opposite Trayvon Diggs that if you want to test him,

735
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 7: go right ahead. This is the defensive player of the

736
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 7: year in twenty nineteen. A guy who can still move

737
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 7: really well as a thirty plus year old corner opposite Digs,

738
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 7: the guy who has seventeen picks in his first three seasons.

739
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 7: Gives the Cowboys a lot of options to what they

740
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 7: can do at their pass rush and how they can

741
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 7: match up at other positions.

742
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 8: Todd, you brought up giving up too many explosive plays.

743
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 8: The other item I think that jumps off the page

744
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 8: from last season for not good reasons, is issues in

745
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 8: terms of stopping the run, and that clearly is important

746
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 8: based on the personnel and the division. They bring in

747
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 8: Mazie Smith first round pick, defensive tackle, and then they

748
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 8: acquire Jonathan Hankins midway through last season, the former Giant,

749
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 8: but he'll now have an entire offseason with the tam

750
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 8: those two in particular, how much do you think they

751
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 8: bolster the Cowboys ability to help stop the run?

752
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 7: They better or it's gonna be the same old, same mold,

753
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 7: And a big part of you know, the run defense

754
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 7: struggled a little bit. The end of last year was

755
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 7: when vander Esch was out. He's the guy who gets

756
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 7: them all in the correct spots, you know, especially the

757
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 7: defensive line, to make sure in the right gaps and

758
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 7: things like that. They really missed him at the end

759
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 7: of last year, and that's what they had some issues

760
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 7: with their run defense, but it really was an issue

761
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 7: all year long. They need those two big guys, Hankins

762
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 7: obviously the former Giant n Mazzie Smith, their first round pick,

763
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 7: to clog it up in the middle. It's been a

764
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 7: little bit of a slow start for Smith during training

765
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 7: camp and in the preseason games, but he's a strong guy.

766
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 7: He's just kind of trying to figure it all out

767
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 7: here at this point. So I think, you know, the

768
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 7: Cowboys are still gonna be and the Cowboys know that

769
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 7: they're gonna be tested on their run defense because McCarthy said,

770
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 7: what we do best is rush passer. What's the best

771
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 7: way to combat that? You run at us. So they

772
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 7: know it's coming, and obviously they know Saquon it's coming.

773
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 7: They've had success with Saquon, you know, in his career,

774
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 7: not maybe not with all these guys playing defense, but

775
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 7: I think he's got two hundred yard games against the

776
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 7: Cowboys and maybe four with less than thirty or some

777
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 7: stupid stat which doesn't make any sense because I've never

778
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 7: really viewed the Cowboys run defense that's so potent that

779
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 7: they could slow a guy like Barkley down. But the

780
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 7: numbers have been pretty favorable to Dallas in that one.

781
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 7: But if they're going to be they were war were

782
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 7: they last year? Let me look it up. Twenty second

783
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 7: against the run last year. That has to get to twelve,

784
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 7: I guess, to make a significant jump. And that's why

785
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 7: that's why they drafted Mazi Smith. They need him to

786
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 7: be a big part of this defense.

787
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, especially with guys like Michaeh Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence and

788
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 8: even Dorance Armstrong consistently getting after the quarterback, you need

789
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 8: guys to help solidify the other facets. And that brings

790
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 8: me back to the pass rush Todd. Because we talked

791
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 8: so much about Parsons and Lawrence, I actually think a

792
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 8: guy who gets hidden as a result overshadowt however you

793
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 8: want to word it, is Dorance Armstrong. People probably don't

794
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 8: even realize eight and a half sacks last season was

795
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 8: second on the.

796
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: Team, ahead of DaMarcus Lawrence. How much.

797
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 8: Do you think he's sort of the secret weapon in

798
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 8: the pass rush based on how Dan Quinn has utilized him.

799
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, And he's a guy that they can move around

800
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 7: and different things with. And that's really all three of

801
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 7: those guys, Armstrong, DeMarcus Lawrence and Parsons can move in

802
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 7: all these different spots to make it hard for offensive

803
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 7: line to say, Okay, which guy's coming, where are they

804
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 7: coming from? Are they going to be next to each

805
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 7: other coming? You know, do we got a slide? Which way?

806
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 7: How do we get all this configured? But the strength

807
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 7: of the Cowboys team is their pass rush. You know,

808
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 7: Dante Fowler is a guy four years ago would have

809
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 7: been the Cowboys best pass rusher. Now he's playing thirtie

810
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 7: snaps a game, maybe even not that much. And he's

811
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 7: a guy who had I believe five sacks last year.

812
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 7: Sam Williams the second round pick on a toe injury

813
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 7: right now, I don't know how much she'll be able

814
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 7: to play on Sunday, but as a guy that the

815
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 7: Cowboys believe can get after the passers, so you know

816
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 7: they have Well it's not just like back in the

817
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 7: day when the Cowboys it was DeMarcus ware that was

818
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 7: the guy that was going to get you fifteen sixteen back.

819
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 7: They got a bunch of guys that can get after

820
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 7: the quarterback, and that's what makes them so good. And

821
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 7: that's why does a pass rush make a secondary? Does

822
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 7: the secondary make a pass rush? The Cowboys kind of

823
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 7: have both. And when you look at the just look

824
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 7: at the names and the talent that both can help

825
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: each other. And if you have Digs and Gilmore, that

826
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 7: should give Parsons and those guys more time to get

827
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 7: to the quarterback. If you have Parsons, Lawrence and Armstrong

828
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 7: and Williams and Fowler and all these guys, well that's

829
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 7: gonna help the other guys on the outside not have

830
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 7: to cover as long and maybe jumps around so they're

831
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 7: in a good spot defensively as they enter their third

832
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 7: year at dan Quinn.

833
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 8: We're talking with Todd Archer, covers the Cowboys for ESPN,

834
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 8: their NFL Nation reporter. With respect to Parsons, Todd, the

835
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 8: other storyline that came up this offseason was all these

836
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 8: whispers about him moving positions, even though I would argue

837
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 8: dan Quinn has moved him around pretty much ever since

838
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 8: he was drafted by the Cowboys. What do you make

839
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 8: of where he's labeled and whether or not that's even

840
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 8: going to make a difference in the big picture of

841
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 8: things this season.

842
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, they still call him a linebacker. He's an edge player.

843
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 7: That doesn't sound as good, but you know he's if

844
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 7: I'm sure every team in the league would love to

845
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 7: have him drop and coverage and not rush the passer.

846
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 7: So but like you said, he can line he can

847
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 7: line up in the A gap, he can line up

848
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 7: to the left, he can line up to the right.

849
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 7: He can drop and coverage and do a good drop

850
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 7: against tight ends and back But where he's going to

851
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 7: be become the My guess is he will be the

852
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 7: highest paid NFL defensive player in history next year if

853
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 7: the Cowboys want to get that contract done as soon

854
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 7: as four is because of how he affects the quarterback

855
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 7: and disrupts the game plan and things like that. So

856
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 7: he'll he'll be all over the he'll how do I

857
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 7: say this the right way, He's still going to be

858
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 7: listed as a linebacker, but he's really an edge it's

859
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 7: not I mean, he's I think it's probably a semantics game.

860
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 7: They'll move them around and keep people guessing but he's

861
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 7: gonna be going forward at that quarterback.

862
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think semantics is a very appropriate term to

863
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 8: discuss that element of this storyline. Entering the Cowboys Giants game,

864
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 8: we talked about injuries on offense. You had mentioned Sam

865
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 8: Williams injury that he's dealing with and perhaps could be

866
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 8: limited or may not even play on Sunday. The other

867
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 8: player of noticed, safety Donovan Wilson, dealing with a calf injury.

868
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 8: Now Dallas also has jay Ron Purse, who has been

869
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 8: very productive for them, So how do you assess Wilson's

870
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 8: availability perhaps, and if he's not available, how much having

871
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 8: Perse on the back end helps soften that blow?

872
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 7: Well, really, the Cowboys base defense is a three safety

873
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 7: look with Curse, Donovan Wilson, and Malie Cooker. So if

874
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 7: you take him out of the mix, you're you know,

875
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 7: here's a guy. I think he had five sacks last

876
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 7: year as well. He's a guy who pretty much hit

877
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 7: every defensive statistical category, and the Cowboys signed him to

878
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 7: a pretty decent extension here in this offseason. I'd be

879
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 7: surprised if he were to play. Hasn't practiced since the

880
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 7: opening opener of training camp because of that calf injury

881
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 7: he has experienced. He's a veteran, he knows what he's doing.

882
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 7: I think the Cowboys take a big picture view of

883
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 7: It's an eighteen week, seventeen games season. He's not really

884
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 7: practiced that much. Let's be smart about it, even on

885
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 7: a division game to open the year. And then from

886
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 7: there you look at guys they like Mark heath Fell

887
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 7: kind of listed as a linebacker hybrid guy a little bit,

888
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 7: and then jan Yeer Thomas undrafted free agent from a

889
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 7: couple of years ago. It's really done some good, but

890
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 7: it kind of takes one of the elements of the

891
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 7: Cowboys defense would makes them so strong with their three

892
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 7: safety and how they can match up a tight end,

893
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 7: how they can still help in the running games. He

894
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 7: would be a loss for the Cowboys if he can't

895
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Speaker 7: go on Sunday.

896
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Speaker 8: DoD Before I let you go, I guess we should

897
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Speaker 8: get to the item that perhaps is the elephant in

898
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Speaker 8: the room.

899
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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be appropriate if we.

900
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Speaker 8: Didn't talk to Cowboys without the kicking game coming up,

901
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 8: given what unfortunately transpired with Bret Maher last season in

902
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 8: the playoffs. So they have a competition and Brandon Aubrey,

903
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 8: former soccer player who kicked at the USFL winds up

904
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 8: winning the role and the numbers in the preseason solid

905
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 8: two of three from field goals, eight of nine of

906
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 8: extra points. How did he look from your optics? And

907
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 8: where does Mike McCarthy feel confidence wise he has this

908
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 8: young guy as he takes over what could obviously be

909
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 8: an extremely critical role throughout the stretch of this season.

910
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, he talked to us here on Thursday about that

911
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 7: and said Aubrey reminds him of a young Mason Crossey

912
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 7: who Mike had for years up in Green Bay, and

913
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 7: Crossley's first preseason nailed the game winning kick from fifty

914
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 7: plus at the end of a preseason game or maybe

915
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 7: early in the year and really use that to jumpstart

916
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 7: his career. And Mike thinks Aubrey's got similar leg strength.

917
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 7: Kicked the fifty nine yarder in the last preseason game

918
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 7: against the Raiders, and I don't know if they made

919
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 7: it with ease, but certainly look comfortable going out there

920
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 7: and making the attempt. But there's still a wait and

921
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 7: see approach, because you know, Mason Crosby was a successful

922
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 7: kicker in college at Colorado, A guy that a lot

923
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 7: of people knew of coming into the draft. Brandon Aubrey,

924
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 7: as you mentioned, was a soccer player at Notre Dame.

925
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 7: It has only been playing, has only been kicking a

926
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Speaker 7: football for the last two and a half three years,

927
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 7: so there is some question. You know, the Cowboys do

928
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 7: have confidence in him, though, but it is you know,

929
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 7: the way it ended with mar Her last year wasn't good,

930
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 7: but it was really only an extra points. I think

931
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 7: he made his last twelve field goal drive of the season,

932
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 7: including the playoffs. It was the extra points he gave

933
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 7: him fit. You know, the Cowboys rolling in here with

934
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 7: a young kicker, they've done that before, you know. In

935
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 7: the my tenure, I'm thinking of guys like Dan Bailey,

936
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 7: undrafted kid out of Oklahoma State who ended up being

937
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 7: one of the most accurate kickers of all time until

938
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Speaker 7: he left here, So they'll have confidence in him. I'm

939
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 7: curious to see if it's the first drive and it's

940
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 7: fourth and two from the Giant, say thirty five, does

941
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 7: McCarthy go for the field goal or does he go

942
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 7: for the first down and see if he can and

943
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 7: get a little closer get or get a touchdown on

944
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 7: a drive that's going to be interesting to see how

945
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 7: that impacts the play caller.

946
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, you bring up a great point, because that obviously

947
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 8: is another dynamic that will influence what McCarthy wants to

948
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 8: do in terms of his level of aggressiveness or maybe

949
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 8: getting the young kicker's feet wet early on in a

950
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 8: divisional game right out of the gates. Well, it's the

951
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 8: Cowboys and the Giants. They renew their rivalry Week one

952
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 8: of the twenty twenty three regular season coming up this Sunday.

953
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 8: He is Todd Archer, Cowboys, ESPN, NFL Nation Reporter. Todd

954
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 8: always good to catch up with You greatly appreciate the

955
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 8: time of the inn and we look forward to Sunday's game.

956
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me.

957
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,799
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958
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: We thank Todd Archer and Lance Metal for helping us

959
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961
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962
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965
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966
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968
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Speaker 1: Now? Let's go to the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa.

969
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: He had a chance to talk to the head coach

970
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable on the

971
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: eve of this twenty twenty three season.

972
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 9: Season kicks off Giants taking on the Dallas Cowboys and

973
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 9: as always, were joined by the head coach of the

974
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 9: New York Football Giants, Brian Dable And Coach I know,

975
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 9: there's a lot of work that has gone into the

976
00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 9: lead up to this opening day, just sort of reflect

977
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 9: upon how this offseason has been for you heading into

978
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 9: this game, and the continuity of bringing your staff back

979
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 9: from last year for the most part, and this year

980
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 9: number two with Joe kind of running things with the

981
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 9: upstairs part of it, and just how it's all kind

982
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 9: of come together as we get ready to kick off

983
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 9: season number two with Coach Stable.

984
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, we understand that every year is a new year.

985
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 10: It's you know, pretty consistent with a normal offseason. Once

986
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 10: you've been at a place for a year, you know,

987
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 10: you go through you know self evaluation, scheme, evaluation, you know,

988
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 10: the combine and free agency and the draft and then

989
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 10: OTAs and training camp ultimately and preseason games. So it's

990
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 10: a you know, it's a pretty normal flow. Obviously, most

991
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 10: of the people in the building have been here for

992
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 10: a year, so I think there's a little familiarity with

993
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 10: with that. But you know, we added some players that

994
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 10: we think can help us, and now it's about coming

995
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 10: together and playing well this opening game.

996
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 9: As you were getting ready to sort of in your

997
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 9: mindset with Joe, think about what you wanted this team

998
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 9: to look like going into twenty twenty three. At least

999
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 9: from the outsider, it looks like one of the key components,

1000
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 9: along with bringing in good football players was to increase

1001
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 9: team speed. Was that a focus or just a byproduct

1002
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 9: of players that wound up coming here.

1003
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 10: Well, I don't think that's anything new to adding pieces

1004
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 10: to a team in the NFL. You're always trying to improve,

1005
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 10: whether it's your size or your speed or your talent.

1006
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 10: But again, it's one thing about collecting talent and it's

1007
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 10: another thing about building a team. And you know, we've

1008
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 10: went through, you know, a tough training camp and some

1009
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 10: preseason games, but you know, ultimately, it's how you respond

1010
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 10: in the regular season games when things get tough and

1011
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 10: you face adversity. And you know, we've yet to play

1012
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 10: one yet, so the guys are are working hard. They've

1013
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 10: prepared well for this game, and you know it'll be

1014
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 10: a good test for us.

1015
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 9: You mentioned adversity, coach, I was thinking about, you know,

1016
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 9: what the atmosphere is going to be like when you

1017
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 9: guys take the field and the fans in there, you know,

1018
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 9: Blue Out and the Cowboys and Prime Time and all

1019
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 9: that other stuff. And then I think about your quarterback

1020
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 9: and sort of this even Keel sort of mindset that

1021
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 9: he brings to things. And we saw that last year.

1022
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 9: Even though you guys didn't win on Christmas Eve, it

1023
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 9: was pretty loud in Minnesota. And then you go there

1024
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 9: and you win a road playoff game. How does Daniel

1025
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 9: Jones personality best serve this team?

1026
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1027
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 10: I think what's important for us, Bob, is that each

1028
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 10: each person on our team, you know, they each have

1029
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 10: their own personality, and I want their personalities to show.

1030
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 10: And if you're you know, have a calm demeanor like

1031
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 10: Daniel does, and have a calm demeanor whatever allows you

1032
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 10: to be at your best. If you're very excitable, then

1033
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 10: be excitable.

1034
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 5: Let's not try to be something that we're not.

1035
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 10: He's been a good leader for us since I've walked

1036
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 10: into that building the first day. You know, he's worked

1037
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 10: really hard this week to get to get ready to

1038
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 10: go out there and play a good game.

1039
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 9: Coach, how about the excitement level as far as now

1040
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 9: with him being in year two within the system with

1041
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 9: Coach Kafka, yourself and the rest of the offensive staff,

1042
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 9: where you know you're able to sort of kind of

1043
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 9: understand each other in a certain way that last year

1044
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 9: was more of a learning process as you go into

1045
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 9: games like this.

1046
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that relationship is very important between you know,

1047
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 10: in this case, the head coach and the quarterback, and

1048
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 10: also the play caller and the quarterback. You know, the

1049
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 10: quarterback touches the ball on every play, he has decisions

1050
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 10: to make on every play, and I think the more

1051
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 10: familiar and comfortable he is with the system that we're running,

1052
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 10: the better he can play and the freer he can play.

1053
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 10: So I have a lot of confidence in Daniel. He's

1054
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 10: an extremely hard worker, and you know, he's worked really

1055
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 10: hard this week to get to get ready to go

1056
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 10: out there and play a good game.

1057
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 9: I want to ask you about one more player before

1058
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 9: I get onto the Cowboys here. Darren Waller, who you

1059
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 9: brought in via trade, you know, has been you know,

1060
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 9: outstanding when we saw him in game action, and I

1061
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 9: know he's been very impressive as far as the workroom

1062
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 9: is cancer whether it's meetings, the weight room or on

1063
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 9: the football field practicing. Could you just sort of share

1064
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 9: with the audience some of the things that make him

1065
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 9: a unique player.

1066
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 10: Well, he's got size, he's got speed, he's got quickness,

1067
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 10: good hands, athletic, and he's smart. So those are all

1068
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 10: good qualities to have at any position, but particularly his

1069
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 10: you know, with his intelligence that you know, he's played

1070
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 10: a lot of different spots throughout his career, and you

1071
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 10: know he's done a good job acclimating himself to our program.

1072
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 9: Coach, I know, last season for your football team, you know,

1073
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 9: stopping the run is always a priority, but you guys

1074
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 9: have made some steps to sort of bolster that.

1075
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: Last year.

1076
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 9: I think between Pollard and Elliott they had to combine

1077
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 9: sixty two carries for about three hundred and thirty yards rushing.

1078
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 9: Does it kind of get back to the same thing

1079
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 9: as you get ready to play this game tonight. You

1080
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 9: have to be able to control the run to keep

1081
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 9: the game dictated on your terms.

1082
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, i'd say first down is a critical down, whether

1083
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 10: they just choose to run it or throw it.

1084
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 5: You know how they run it, whether.

1085
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 10: It's perimeter runs, toss cracks, jet sweeps. You know, they

1086
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 10: have a very good offensive line that can block a

1087
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 10: number of running plays well, and they have a very

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Speaker 10: talented runner in Pollard who can make you miss. He

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Speaker 10: can take it the distance, he can bounce it, you

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Speaker 10: can cut back. So you know, running to the ball,

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Speaker 10: controlling the line of scrimmage, tackling well will all be

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Speaker 10: key aspects to the game.

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Speaker 9: And then you have Dak Prescott, who you know has

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Speaker 9: been outstanding since he's been in the league. I know

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Speaker 9: a lot of people talking about the interceptions from last season,

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Speaker 9: but you know, if you take a look at what

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys did offensively down the stretch, it was it

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Speaker 9: was pretty impressive. They averaged thirty three points a game

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Speaker 9: over the last part of the season. What makes Dak

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Speaker 9: such a difficult player to defend.

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Speaker 10: Well, he's a very smart quarterback. He can throw the

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Speaker 10: ball in any spot, you need him to throw it.

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Speaker 10: He makes good decisions.

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Speaker 9: And then that's why he wins a lot of football games.

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Speaker 10: Right, scores and scores a lot of points.

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Speaker 9: Brandon Cooks is a new addition to this football team.

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Speaker 9: What kind of what kind of match up stress does

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Speaker 9: he put on a defense?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he stresses you vertically.

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Speaker 10: He can run routes too. He's played this game a

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Speaker 10: long time and numerous spots have been very productive wherever

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Speaker 10: he's been. I have a tremendous amount of respect for

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Speaker 10: him as a as a man and also a player.

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Speaker 10: But he can take the top off, he can hitch

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Speaker 10: you vertical, he can work the intermediate, he can catch

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Speaker 10: and run. He's he's a complete receiver.

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Speaker 9: Dan Quinn's been in the league a long time as

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Speaker 9: a head coach and the Cowboys defensive coordinator. And you know,

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Speaker 9: as you look at them defensively, as you get ready

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Speaker 9: to play them tonight, coach, obviously they create a lot

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Speaker 9: of issues for you as far as getting pressure on

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Speaker 9: the quarterback with their front and then they're ballhawks. They've

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Speaker 9: led the NFL and takeaways each of the last two years.

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Speaker 9: You know, obviously you're not going to give us the

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Speaker 9: game plan here. But as you look at them, what

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Speaker 9: what are the strengths that you see with this football

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Speaker 9: team and things that they do really well defensively.

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Speaker 10: Well their strength as their players. They have a lot

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Speaker 10: of good players at numerous spots. They're extremely fast, they

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Speaker 10: create negative plays, and they take the ball away. So

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Speaker 10: when you play against the defense that has tremendous speed

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Speaker 10: that can create negative plays, whether that's in the run

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Speaker 10: or the pass game, and that takes the ball away,

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Speaker 10: those defenses are usually going to be at the top

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Speaker 10: of the league.

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Speaker 9: A final question, coach, as we get ready for this game,

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Speaker 9: you know there's a lot of hype. It's a primetime game,

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Speaker 9: it's the opening game of the season, so every player

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Speaker 9: in the league feels it. But the way the rules

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Speaker 9: are in today's NFL, it's not like the old days

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Speaker 9: where guys played a ton in the preseason and we

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Speaker 9: saw a little bit of it in the Thursday night

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Speaker 9: game with the Lions and Chiefs. How do you, as

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Speaker 9: a head coach manage the adrenaline to make sure that

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Speaker 9: you guys have staying power for the full sixty minutes

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Speaker 9: of football.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think you do that throughout training camp and

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Speaker 10: then once the regular season hits. You know, you set

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Speaker 10: the standard and the expectations and the keys for the game,

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Speaker 10: and you teach them during the week, and you know

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Speaker 10: my approach is, you know, less is more towards the

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Speaker 10: end of the week. So everybody's excited to play this game.

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Speaker 10: They've worked extremely hard. Opening day in the NFL is

1154
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Speaker 10: an awesome an awesome day. It's a it's a great

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Speaker 10: game to be part of. There's a lot of unknowns,

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of adrenaline, like you said, and you

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Speaker 10: know those guys. I just need those guys to be themselves.

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Speaker 10: So everybody gets ready for games differently. But you know,

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Speaker 10: today's a day for the players. It's it's less about

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Speaker 10: you know, the coaches and what you say, because you

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Speaker 10: know they've spent a long time, you know, starting the

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Speaker 10: O tas all the way through now to get to

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Speaker 10: this point. And I'm sure you know there'll be a

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Speaker 10: lot of excitement, but you know, the key is to

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Speaker 10: to stay focused on doing your job well and and

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Speaker 10: focus on playing the next play and understand there'll be

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Speaker 10: plenty of diversity that that we go through and and

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Speaker 10: just keep on keep on going.

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Speaker 9: Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes. Best of luck,

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Speaker 9: and we look forward to doing this throughout the course

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Speaker 9: of the season.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Bob.

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Speaker 1: We thank Giants quarterback of Dory Jackson.

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Speaker 3: We thank Todd Archer for ESPN, and then we thank

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Speaker 3: the head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable and Bob

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Speaker 3: Pop of course for joining us on the Giants Total Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us. It was all brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you tune into our pregame show at six

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Speaker 3: point twenty on WFN on Sunday, two hours before the game.

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Speaker 3: You will hear snippets of some of these interviews and

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Speaker 3: a lot more as Jonathan Cassie has talked to you

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Speaker 3: for two hours. Take your calls on the phone as

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Speaker 3: well to get ready for Giants football. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Everybody. We'll see you next time on the Giants Total Podcast.