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Speaker 1: John Budden, Tyler, my friend, what out Brad Broth?

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Speaker 2: This podcast is about to be fucking depressing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't even know we should drop this motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Man, I mean, niggas.

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Speaker 3: Gotta talk about this ship, right, Niggas got to bro

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Speaker 3: Is this not what we signed up for?

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Speaker 2: Tyler?

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Speaker 4: This is what comes with being an Internet nigga.

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Speaker 2: I still see your shadows in my room.

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Speaker 5: You can't take back.

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Speaker 1: The love that I gave you.

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Speaker 6: It's to the point why love and I hate you

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Speaker 6: and I can't I change you?

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Speaker 5: So why might replace you easier said than done?

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Speaker 2: And I thought you were.

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Speaker 3: One people want the takes. We gotta give the people

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Speaker 3: what they want. Bro, Man, even if you don't want.

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Speaker 1: To yeah about yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're usually ships and giggles. I'll do this, motherfucker,

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Speaker 4: you know, with some real ship sprank on in. But

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Speaker 4: this ship might be you have any today?

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Speaker 2: Bro? Oh my god, I don't even want to sing

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Speaker 2: the fucking entry song. Bro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think motherfuckers might as well. Just you know,

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Speaker 4: it is like regular people and ship.

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Speaker 2: This is the Chickens and Jones show. I'm the Jethro Chickens.

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Speaker 5: And I am Dragonfly Jones and this is CNN, this

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Speaker 5: is n PR, n PR.

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Speaker 2: What's the name of this ship? What we go call

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Speaker 2: this ship?

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Speaker 1: N PR NPR be having a weird assids like, this

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Speaker 1: is NPR Saturday Library Coffee. I'm like, what the fuck

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Speaker 1: does that mean?

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Speaker 3: This is n PR's Tuesday afternoon cup of sadness.

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Speaker 1: The best cup of sadi.

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Speaker 2: The best part of waking up is sadness in your cup?

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Speaker 2: Uh Doug?

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Speaker 3: Okay, what do we talk about first? Do we talk

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Speaker 3: about children being separated at the border? Or do we

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Speaker 3: talk about the very well not really confusing, but the

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Speaker 3: very divisive subject.

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Speaker 2: Of X being murdered? This is like, this is like

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Speaker 2: your choices, bro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, like this this is like do you want

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Speaker 4: to fucking do crack or like Heroin?

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Speaker 2: First?

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Speaker 3: Like I might choose Heroin, though I think that'd be

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Speaker 3: easier than this. Actually Heroin, that first high would be incredible.

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Speaker 3: Your life would be absolutely fucked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Anytime anytime some ship goes in your bloodstream and your

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Speaker 4: body craves it because it was in your bloodstream, Dog,

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Speaker 4: you ain't beating that ship, man, not without a concentrated effort.

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Speaker 2: I don't think crack.

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Speaker 3: You might not be as addicted to it initially, you

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, I mean it goes down to heroin is

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Speaker 3: Should all drugs be legal? M that wasn't a good one,

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Speaker 2: Go, was it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I don't know if legalizing crack

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Speaker 3: I'm old as fuck, bro, I said, a young person.

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Speaker 4: you know, just so they can get a hit of heroin.

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Speaker 3: I guess we have to talk about this ship. Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's I guess let's talk about X first.

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Speaker 2: But this is after you've already hit it before, So

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Speaker 4: And you know that was coming from people who I

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're as compassionate as you make yourself

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Speaker 4: the lines were were written in the sand on on Twitter,

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Speaker 4: it was pretty much men versus woman. You know, pretty

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Speaker 4: much every discussion on Twitter kind of devolves at the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, like pretty much every discussion on

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Speaker 4: Twitter kind of devalves and the battle of But this

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Speaker 4: of you know why that would be a legishiitmate reason?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll give I'll give men credit for I'll say,

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Speaker 3: Because I do understand that I am a man in

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, if somebody hit that, we thrown

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Speaker 3: these charity events, cool, all that fine, but he still

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Speaker 3: So there's nothing that says he would have really changed anything.

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Speaker 3: And we tend to do this thing with men where

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Right, it seems like hurting women, whether whether physically, emotionally

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Speaker 3: It's being hurt, right, But when men are hurt, we

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So I see all viewpoints I see and I also

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's why I'm creative because I'm a little crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't going to counseling to talk about rainbows

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Speaker 2: He was very troubled.

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Speaker 7: But people who are troubled also, hm, I know a

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Speaker 3: But like I said, it's just a there's a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean shit that are that are saying, you know, he.

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Speaker 2: What I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yes, But also I also read that he was he

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Speaker 2: It deeped out and see yourself doing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I just chased a man down the street that was

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Speaker 3: don't think it's black and white. It's a lot of gray.

440
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: I was sad about the loss of a lot of shit,

441
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like it was just it

442
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: was just a sad tragic in multiple ways. Also seeing

443
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: you know that his his his girlfriend got her got

444
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: jumped or something got beat up. Uh as the memorial

445
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: memorial and a uh or the or the visual, I

446
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: don't know which one they did. It might be the

447
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: same thing. But and then they burned her president and

448
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: it's crazy. It's just a lot of sadness run the situation.

449
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: Man to me.

450
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, and and we've and and you know, like

451
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 4: you said, we have no idea how this kid would

452
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: turn out, you know. And you know, you can say

453
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 4: that that's a sad part of it, but that's the

454
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 4: reality here. And we just we can't keep fucking placing

455
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 4: the fucking potential of men over the real life experiences

456
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: of women, you know, right right, Like like like, you know,

457
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 4: Ex is dead now, so there's no way to know

458
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 4: what he would have been, but we know what he did, yeah,

459
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And like people are saying,

460
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: you know, and people were like, like, he could have

461
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 4: been the next Malcolm X.

462
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: Motherfucker. There's been one Malcolm X in the history of man.

463
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: That's the thing with me, bro, That's the thing Malcolm.

464
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: The greatness of Malcolm X is the fact that he

465
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: was a complete anomaly, you know what I mean. He

466
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: is Malcolm fucking X. Right, So like all the niggas

467
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: who have done trash ass ship and stay trash ass.

468
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: Niggas, you know, and we don't have one we have

469
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: he could have been Malcolm X. I don't give a

470
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: fuck you know what I mean, And that's not the

471
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: way to do.

472
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: Strongly against that. That's not the way to to to

473
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 3: in my opinion, to argue why we should show forgiveness.

474
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: I think the thing is, like, dude, just understood. I mean,

475
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: I think it's okay for people to feel sadness about

476
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: people dying. You know, you can mourn any way you want.

477
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Your emotions are your emotions, you know what I mean.

478
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to judge anybody, especially you know

479
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 3: a woman who has women who have been abused at

480
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: the hands of men, not just physically but in many

481
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: different ways, just like existing say they don't give a fuck,

482
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: because I absolutely canot understand.

483
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: It's like a white man trying to tell me not

484
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: give a fuck about some shit. You know what I mean, nigga.

485
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: You you cannot understand my experience on this earth.

486
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: You cannot completely understand it. No I could.

487
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: I could, I could break down everything. You cannot completely

488
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: understand how I feel being on this planet. You know

489
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: what I mean, And I cannot understand no matter how

490
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 3: much women speak to me, how many people women I

491
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: love speak to me, how much you know, like, how

492
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: much they try to reach me, I will never completely understand,

493
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I do understand that

494
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: men are trash and the shit is fucked up, you

495
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I do understand why they think that,

496
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: but I will never feel that feeling. So I can't

497
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: judge anybody if they feel that way, you know what

498
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 3: I mean, based upon his actions. But it was very

499
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 3: weird to disagree with people that I respect greatly, And

500
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: that's just how it is sometimes, where like.

501
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: There's people.

502
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: That that that I respect greatly and opinions I've aligned

503
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: with so many situations and it was like, I don't

504
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: feel that way, but I get how you feel that way,

505
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: and fuck how I feel, you know what I mean? Yes,

506
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm so like, I don't know, man,

507
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: it was it was. It was an odd, odd situation

508
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: to me, and it's a yeah, yeah.

509
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: It's it's I mean, I think it comes down to

510
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: dealing with with two very harsh truths here, and one

511
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 4: harsh truth being that there are women who have been abused,

512
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 4: who who you know are being abused, concerned about being abused,

513
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: who you know, you know took solace or or you know,

514
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: rejoiced in in Ex's death. And that's the one hard

515
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: shoot that you have to deal with, and the other

516
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: hardshooth is that they are women who are being abused

517
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: and have been abused, right right, Like that's the other

518
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 4: harshoot that you have to deal with here.

519
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 2: And that he abused women.

520
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: He abused me when you read the ship, Like I

521
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: read an article in like the Miami Times or what

522
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: I think it was. I read the whole fucking article,

523
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: and I'm like, God, damn, dog, there's I mean, it's

524
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: it's difficult to read that somebody would put somebody through

525
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: that ship, you know what I mean. And the way

526
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: he manipulated her and like acted like he cared, you

527
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: know what I mean, how he was like the the

528
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: same he could, you know, keep her safe from her

529
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: past boyfriend, and then you know what I mean, And

530
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: it was it was I was like, God damn. And

531
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: then like seem to be even worse, and there are

532
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: women going through this ship. How can I ever judge

533
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: a woman or somebody that's been through that, you know,

534
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: and that sees this man do these things. And it's

535
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: known women that have been through this ship and he's

536
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: not on this earth anymore, and.

537
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: Say you should you know, that's that's cruel. We shouldn't

538
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: wish death in any body.

539
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: Nah.

540
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: Nah, It's a case by case basis here I'm not

541
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: sure if accomplishment.

542
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: I can't say the world is a better is not

543
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: a better place without him here? I mean, you know,

544
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: I can't say the world is better it was a

545
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: better place with him here. I can't say that. I

546
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: can't say that, you know what I mean. I still

547
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: feel tragic though the situation is tragic, you know what

548
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 3: I mean?

549
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 8: Yeah?

550
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: But and something else that's tragic is that this didn't

551
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: hinder his career one bit. We knew about his I

552
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 4: think the vast majority of us knew about his fucking

553
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 4: legal problems and his abuse before we even heard a

554
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: single sound.

555
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: I only did it not hinder it.

556
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: He grew after that, like his's his, like his, The

557
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: legend of X grew afterwards.

558
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: Dude, There's some issues with humanity, bro, There's some serious

559
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: fucking issues that need to be dealt with. I don't

560
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: know if they will be. But I saw, I mean

561
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: like I saw, I saw a lot.

562
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: It made anything. This is one thing that put this

563
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: tripped me out was to like to like the experience.

564
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: And this made me question myself and maybe some misogynist

565
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 3: still within me that I work on my perception of

566
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: black women in particular, because that's you know, who I've

567
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: dealt with virtually all my life.

568
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: Is you know, like they're.

569
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: The most compassionate, loving people I've ever experienced, right.

570
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: And so seeing.

571
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 3: You know, the responses of many black women that I

572
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: you know, that I fucked with.

573
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 9: And I was like, God, damn, like this is what

574
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 9: and and things like, you know, they're compassionate, loving too,

575
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 9: but they're still human just like anybody else, right, you

576
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 9: know what I mean.

577
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I've created this superhuman view of them,

578
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And I don't think maybe

579
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: that affects my expectations as well, and I need to

580
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: work on that. But it really fucked me up to

581
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: see that, and you know them, and I've seen something.

582
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: I really respect them love because that's when people are

583
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: giving fun about people I fuck with, you know what

584
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean, saying like rejoicing, like saying that what a blessing,

585
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: or you know, disgusted by.

586
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: People that were.

587
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: That were mourning by mourning it, or like like the

588
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: responses they had to it. Like I was just like,

589
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: you know, fuck you and fucking you know what I mean,

590
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: And to me that speaks I don't maybe like I said,

591
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: they're you know, everybody's human, but it was like, damn,

592
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: this is what we've done or this or maybe like

593
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: this is this is this is what we've done, this

594
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: is what we created, this is what like may or

595
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: maybe this is what they find many people men find necessary.

596
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: It's like yo, either and that and that that's that

597
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: saddened me.

598
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: That sad damn, that's the saddesship of what you mentioned.

599
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: That woman had been pushed to that that point.

600
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not trying to say like that,

601
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't also want to. I

602
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: don't know exactly how the word this, but I think

603
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: it's I think it's problematic that I felt that way

604
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: at any point, you know what I mean that you know,

605
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: like looked at black women as superheroes, you.

606
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, because.

607
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: That that changes my expectations, and my expectation should only

608
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: be of them being human.

609
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Just as human exactly exactly.

610
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: So that was problematical itself, and that I had to

611
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: trip off that as well. But yeah, I was like, also,

612
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: it's like the people who I have known to be

613
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: the best humans on this planet are celebrating the death

614
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: and not fucking with people who are even mourning it.

615
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: And I understood it completely, but it's still saddened me.

616
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: So that was odd too.

617
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: It's a lot going on, bro and h and it

618
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: made me feel bad like this is what men have done,

619
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

620
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: This is what this is.

621
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: And it made me this is the experience of a

622
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: woman on this earth where a tragic event happens and

623
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: those and and some people will celebrate it because that's

624
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: how dire the situation is.

625
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: Right, that's this is this is the only time where

626
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 4: we where we pay attention to them when they're saying

627
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: some ship that that that we view as as you know,

628
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: fucking you know, file or or or disrespectful in a

629
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: lot of people's eyes.

630
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: And it didn't speak. I didn't think like wow, like

631
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: you fucked up.

632
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: I was thinking like, wow, this is where we're at now, right,

633
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And and I think it

634
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: kind of but I kind of felt like a white nigga,

635
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, we're like white people. And

636
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: we talked about this when white people try to see

637
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: the humanity and in like the cops that are doing

638
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: fucked up ship right, and we're like or even with

639
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: people who try to see the humanity in Trump. I mean,

640
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: I think we've gotten past that now.

641
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: It's it's like, bro, you have that luxury because they're

642
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: not a threat to you here.

643
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: And it's exact same thing that you have the people

644
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: that have the luxury, people people that don't see or

645
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: look look for the humanity. And and and people like

646
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: Trump or like you know, and cops killing black men

647
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: or people that the luxury too. I have the luxury

648
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: to see the tragedy in this person done.

649
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: And there are women on this women who don't.

650
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: Have the luxury of saying that because of what is

651
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: going on in their life experience and not fucking me up.

652
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, it's like damn.

653
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: And and and another thing.

654
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: That kills me is people saying this isn't the time

655
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: to discuss that. Can can we at least give them

656
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: some respects? It's like, bro, when when is the time

657
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: to discuss the thing? Because you don't listen to any

658
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: other you.

659
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

660
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: And it's it's like, bro, And the whole thing about

661
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: out abuse is that abuse thrives on silence, dude. It

662
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: thrives on yes, yeah, yeah, it thrives on the victims

663
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: of being silent. And I'm not at all victims blamed

664
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: here because victims know that society doesn't give a ship

665
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: about what they say about it, right, that's society's fault.

666
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: That's not victim's fault, you know.

667
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: And and it's like, if we're not going to talk

668
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: about it now, when when people just might give us

669
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: similars of a funck about it, then when, motherfucker you

670
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: want me to set a fucking outlook, a fucking reminder

671
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: for next week, we can discuss you know, domestic violence.

672
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: When you won't give a ship then, like you don't

673
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: give a ship now?

674
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, it bothers me.

675
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: That we have this, we have Twitter, and it's never

676
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: it's like we're treating a subject as important as domestic violence,

677
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like it's like it's the

678
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: fucking goat debate, you know what I mean, Like we

679
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck about.

680
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: What you think. You know what I mean?

681
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: This is what I feel, fuck you, you know, like,

682
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: and it's dog we have this opportunity to discuss something

683
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: very important and it's just like you know, we we

684
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: just never take advantage of that ship, Like yeah, how

685
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: do you not see.

686
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: How do you not see someone?

687
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: You know, like getting to the point where you know,

688
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: fuck this nigga, you know he needed to be off

689
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: this earth as like, Yo, let me look into why

690
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: this person would feel that way.

691
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I don't think that's normal

692
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: or natural.

693
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: I think that's learned or something that's understood over time,

694
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

695
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: Like does that make any sense? Does that make any sense?

696
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

697
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: I finally yeah, And so like you're not taking time.

698
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: I just feel like this is the point, this is

699
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: this a great time to discuss this. This is a

700
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: great time to discuss these issues because we're to this

701
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: point now, like and where where you know, a twenty

702
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: year old dies and it's fuck him because that's what

703
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: we have to do now because you know, like there's

704
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: just no there there's I have no I have no

705
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: room in me for compassion for motherfuckers that act like

706
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: that because you know, of certain people's experience, you know

707
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: what I mean. And I mean I think there's a

708
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: different people with people are saying like what about it?

709
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: What you know, what's the difference in his age, you know,

710
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: like people's brain isn't even done growing in twenty seven.

711
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: He never his brain ever fully developed.

712
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: And he's dead, you know what I mean, and that

713
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: kind of you know, But at the same time, like

714
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: these behaviors, you know what, what he already did was

715
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: really really fucked up, and it didn't.

716
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: Seem like it was gonna change. And it's a fuck.

717
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: It's just a it's just a sad situation to me.

718
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: All of it was.

719
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 3: All of it was sad to me because I could,

720
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: I could, I could, I could empathize with like ninety

721
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: percent of people's art, like ninety percent of people that

722
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: had arguments. When mother we started talking about you know,

723
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: I did cracking all.

724
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: Did you see that ship? So he said, mother fu

725
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 2: it was like I did crack at twenty oh.

726
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm goddamn rusty, bro, Like you really.

727
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Jumped off the fucking yeah clip with that ship. Bro.

728
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: We didn't need to know that.

729
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: You could have kept that to yourself.

730
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 2: This is probably fucked up me laughing and the niggas

731
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: crack you too.

732
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: But he survived it.

733
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 2: But he survived so we could let.

734
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 3: God damn nigga, God damn goa talking about cracking ship,

735
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: Like all right, man, you know.

736
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: This is this is different and ooo, this is how

737
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: far you go to defend this motherfucker. But anyway, I.

738
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: Don't know, Yeah, man, I mean it comes. I mean

739
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: I don't.

740
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's like you said, it's so fucking complicated.

741
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: Like I don't believe that people are the sum of

742
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: their mistakes. I also don't believe that deaths just sanitized

743
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: who they were, you.

744
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? So that's where we are here,

745
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: man whom?

746
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: All right, man, I think this is a good we

747
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: are we gonna talk about the kids. I think we've

748
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: just pressed everybody.

749
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: Enough was I mean we can just say fuck Trump,

750
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: you know, fuck that nigga man?

751
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: You know to be jay Z I M I guess

752
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: that's some up.

753
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. I didn't really get into what do

754
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: you think about that? What do you know?

755
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 8: I ain't never really had a lot, but I got

756
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 8: what I need. I ain't never been to one and

757
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 8: to call anybody anyone if I wanted, I'm gonna get

758
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 8: it out of agree. Never been perfect, but that's me.

759
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 8: And if I had a penny for the minute, that

760
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 8: would die for the petty ye would probably be the

761
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 8: richest in the city. See, my mama didn't raise the

762
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 8: fool the same the shoes I played there, who would

763
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 8: pay my duels?

764
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm made for you to pain.

765
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 8: I know to take the truth to made people I

766
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 8: gave to you me, And even though my Papa was

767
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 8: a rollerstone, I wouldn't do anything to bring them home

768
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 8: or hold the phone or broken soon of a little

769
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 8: baby bore on the lap of a heap of your man.

770
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give you what I can. If I die today,

771
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 8: I'll find a way to make the work to say

772
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 8: that you would have lived forever, lived for me, or

773
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 8: live for you, would lift forever, live for nothing.

774
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: That's me.

775
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 10: I ain't never been perfect, that's me. No, I ain't

776
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 10: never been perfect, But that's me.

777
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 8: No, I ain't never been a wanted to call anybody

778
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 8: anyone if I wanted, I'm gonna get it an that agree.

779
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 8: I ain't never been perfect. No, I ain't never been perfect,

780
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 8: But that's me. No, I ain't never been See, I

781
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 8: don't really know what I should do. I ain't never

782
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 8: got those answers right. And if it tell my mama

783
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 8: what I really do, she'll probably lose a God's damn mine,

784
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 8: the whole god some my daddy, You'm gonna be okay,

785
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 8: And that's in a term that to be a perfect

786
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 8: mama and knuggle Bubba calling me like damn you want

787
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 8: hund and gee never know these monny, stop the drama.

788
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 8: But what if I told you the people will see

789
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 8: me like Stevie, I fed what I need when I

790
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 8: speed on my beat on my.

791
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: Feet couldn't keep up with me, and so I leave

792
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: and I see.

793
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: You in heaven.

794
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 8: I might need a reverend.

795
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: I'm good.

796
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: I'll do it if I told you that I would.

797
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 8: And Jerry really made it out of the hood, cod

798
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 8: Gritty on a shrink, No, and it will never be

799
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 8: the same and the guts never had to see the game.

800
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 8: But we're on a type rope talking to my brother

801
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 8: super Dope.

802
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: Tell him to remember what you know.

803
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 8: And today is the day that we meet what I

804
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 8: faded and they what we think? Do it matter anyway?

805
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 8: If I ain't never been perfect, that's me.

806
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 10: No, I ain't never been perfect.

807
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

808
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: What do you know?

809
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: Me?

810
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: What's your take on the album? Taylor take on you

811
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: know I'm all ears?

812
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: But okay, it was better than I thought it would be.

813
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: But it's it's it feels.

814
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: Like I'm not really kind of you know, I'm not

815
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: in love with it, but I'm impressed, you know what

816
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: I mean if you follow me there. Because I thought

817
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 4: that she was gonna be something trash nigger. I thought

818
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: it was gonna be some goddamn Walmart family portrait matching

819
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: turtleneck picture music. But that ship is kind of you know,

820
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: it's I mean, they they're just talking that we rich ship,

821
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: and I funk with motherfucker's talking that we rich ship.

822
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: You know, you get boozy now, Bro.

823
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 4: Every rapper I ever listened to told me how much richer

824
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: he was nothing.

825
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree, I agree. I'm just fucking with you.

826
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought I think it's a good I

827
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 3: think it's a good album.

828
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: I think it's good music. It just doesn't compel me,

829
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that doesn't that doesn't.

830
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: That's not a knock on it.

831
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: I think at this point, like, okay, like the music

832
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: I listened to is like I listened to like young

833
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: nigga music, bro.

834
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

835
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 3: Like, and it's it's a it's a lot of them

836
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: sound the same, but it's still a newer way of

837
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: approaching it. Just like people sounded the same in the

838
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: nineties and the early two thousands.

839
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to sound like a particular person, you know

840
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: what I mean. You know, people are trying to out

841
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: wrap each other.

842
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, there's a there's a boomback phase,

843
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, There's a gangster rap phase,

844
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: there's a fucking you know, the early two thousand phase.

845
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It was similar to to like,

846
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta be hard.

847
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: Then there's a Kanye phase, which nobody can really immitate Kanye,

848
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: but you know, it kind of like changed a little

849
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: bit when Kanye started rapping. Uh but yeah, and now

850
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: we're in this mumble rap phase, you know, so everybody

851
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: kind of sounded the light in the errors in which they.

852
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: You know, created music to degree right.

853
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: But you know, okay, you know how a tribe called

854
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: Quest makes an album now and it's a good album, right,

855
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: The last album they made was good?

856
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: But how long did it stick with you? I'm just wondering.

857
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: I grew up standing for tribe, but their last ship,

858
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 4: I mean, I missed Fife man.

859
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean didn't do it for me. Bro I thought

860
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: it was.

861
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: A good album. I listened to the whole thing once. Yeah,

862
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: I moved on. That was a good album. It wasn't

863
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: bad at all. It just didn't keep me.

864
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: And that's how I feel like. That's how I feel

865
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: like that. I feel like, you know, it's it's just

866
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: like this, not when Jay's old ship.

867
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: I think it's more Jayden than Beyones, to be honest,

868
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

869
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: Like Beyonce's last album, I really fucked with visually at least,

870
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: you know, I loved it with the visuals.

871
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: I so like Lemonade was good, but I.

872
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: Liked it more with Megga. I love that visually orderly, maggy.

873
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: Right right right, riding with the bad bits out there with.

874
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 9: Right right right.

875
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: I respect that you feel it's bad ee time. You

876
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You know what I'm saying.

877
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: But like I did whatever. But as far as you

878
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: know Jay James, Oh, if I want to listen to JA,

879
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: I listened to his old ship, I go to like

880
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: I go to fucking to a reasonable doubt, you know,

881
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: Volume one, which nobody would but I love all you want,

882
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And also Not only is that, like,

883
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, to me, the better version of Jay as

884
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: far as like rap, you know, the sound.

885
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: I have nostalgia with that. You know, this is new shit.

886
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: I'm hearing from a rapper that I've been I've set

887
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: with for twenty years, you know what I mean, over

888
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 3: twenty years, I think, you know what I mean.

889
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: So, like, I don't really need more music from this guy.

890
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: That's how I feel. Even four forty four that was great.

891
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: That's a great album I have.

892
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: It's phenomenal, and I after that first week, I just

893
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: didn't go back to it, you know, Like like I said,

894
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 3: when I go back to jay Z, I'm not going

895
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: back to four forty four, I'm going back to the

896
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: old other shit. So that's how I feel, man, And

897
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean it doesn't make great shit. I just

898
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: think I'm just moved on to it, you know, to

899
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: other shit, you know what I mean. And if he

900
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: makes music and people fuck with it, you know, and

901
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: that's that's dope, you know what I mean. But that's

902
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not like it's I'm like, dude, Georgia

903
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: Smith's album is incredible.

904
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: To me, it was.

905
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: It's really hard for me to take, you know, for

906
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: me to get away in that album and go to

907
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: Jay's Out Oh Jane the Carter album. For whatever reason,

908
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: it's hard for me not to listen to Jay rock

909
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: shit and go to that shit. It's been hard, you

910
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And that was the big Like

911
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: when they drop the ship is fucking Internet with crazy.

912
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: They're still talking about the ship all that shit, but

913
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: like it just didn't compel me as much as these

914
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: newer artists do.

915
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: I think the lesson to be taken from this, this

916
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: album and the whole you know Beyonce jay z arc

917
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 4: over the last few years is keep your homegirls out

918
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: to your motherfucking business because because she gonna stay with

919
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: that nigga, you just gonna be mad. And Beyonce fans

920
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 4: really hate jay Z. They resent that motherfucker so much.

921
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: Beyon nowhere dog, like you ever been in that ship

922
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: where like you, you had your girlfriend who told her

923
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: homegirls all the fucking little disagreements or whatever you have,

924
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: and then they mad as fuck at you because you

925
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 4: ain't want to go to rupy Tuesdays on a fucking Saturday,

926
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: and they god damn grilling you when you come around

927
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: like motherfucking you know she likes the flatbread. We're good man,

928
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: Why don't is she happy?

929
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But that's the thing though,

930
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: that's that's that's okay. Do you when ship?

931
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: When shit goes, when you have bad times with your lady,

932
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: you tell your people, No, I don't tell you.

933
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't unless it's like a rap, right.

934
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: Funny ship.

935
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 4: My girl used to tell her mom like whenever we

936
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 4: got inspect, and she stopped doing it because her mom

937
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 4: keept telling her how right I was every time.

938
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: That's the dude, that is the exact opposite what us. Yeah,

939
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 2: when you see it happens, is like you know, you.

940
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: Tell motherfuckers, and like, dude, your lady will know you

941
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: in a way that nobody ever will know you, that

942
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: no other woman before you will ever know you.

943
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: Y'all's relationship is y'all's relationship, you know what I mean?

944
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: And the way y'all interact, you know, it's the way

945
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: y'all interact. But she enjoys that, right obviously.

946
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: Right, So but you know, like no, no, none of

947
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: her friends or femine that love her more than they

948
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: love you, because that's how it works. We'll ever understand that,

949
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And so that's generally hot

950
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: works at least, I mean maybe her mom situation. I mean,

951
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: she loves the hell out you obviously, but but yeah,

952
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: so like if you if my sister tells me about

953
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: some nigga hurt her, he'll always be a nigga that

954
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 3: hurt her.

955
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, you know what I mean,

956
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: Like he'll never get past that. For me, I'll always

957
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: have questions about the nigga. You know what I mean.

958
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 4: I gave you because I don't funk with niggas off top,

959
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: so like, don't give me a reason or not really ready, bro, you.

960
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

961
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 3: So so yeah, so yeah, like and and that's that's

962
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: so it's just never good to do that.

963
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 11: And even like, dude, I've witnessed certain things, uh of

964
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 11: other people doing ship and and I won't say nothing

965
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 11: to like people that I know because I'm like, it's

966
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 11: just not my business and.

967
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: I I don't want to get involved in that unless

968
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: it's like I feel it's necessary, like I'll get I'll

969
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: give people the benefit of that, Like I don't know

970
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: what that was, but I'm not gonna say nothing because

971
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, and if I get involved,

972
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: it might come off.

973
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: A certain way, you know what I mean.

974
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: And generally when there's love involved, that mean the biggest

975
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: for a reason.

976
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: But generally when.

977
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: When there's love involved, when there's when there's love involved,

978
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: like you know.

979
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Motherfucker's be knowing already what the fuck is going on, bro,

980
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: you know.

981
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: What I mean, Like if when you found out somebody cheated,

982
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: or if you got caught up on some other ship,

983
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: generous because somebody already had a feeling and they got

984
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: to looking for some shit, you know what I mean,

985
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: So they had an idea already, you feel me.

986
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: So I'm not telling somebody something they don't already know. Yeah,

987
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

988
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: If I want to say something, they'd already know that shit,

989
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So I tend to say it.

990
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: I shall stay out of that shit.

991
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, Also I don't tell people about them business either,

992
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: because I know, peop, you want you to be the

993
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: same way, like they're like cheat the person I'm with

994
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: the same way, Like if somebody hurts me in a

995
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: certain way, I always try to speak highly of them

996
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: because I don't unless it's like a rap because I

997
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: don't want them to think.

998
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: I don't want them to think a particular way about

999
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: them because I know it's just a part of a relationship.

1000
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: It's not all a relationship.

1001
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, right, I mean pretty much the only type

1002
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: of info I get people about Like me and you

1003
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: know my girlfriends in the past, are either we good

1004
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: even if we ain't good, or we broke up when

1005
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 4: we for real broke up, like if we're gonna do

1006
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: one of them booths, because because I feel like you

1007
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 4: bring up like four times before you really break up

1008
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: with somebody, right, so even we're gonna through one of

1009
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: them bullshit breakers that I know isn't for real like.

1010
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: Four and twenty times four and forty, you know what

1011
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: I mean, Like you gotta give it a grade, Like

1012
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: if it ain't forty, you might still you know what

1013
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 3: I mean, But what do you to forty?

1014
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: Okay, this might be a real breakoup you can tell

1015
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: some about it.

1016
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but yeah, I think I think you kind

1017
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: of know when it's a rap rap though, Yeah, you

1018
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because there's times when I like hiding,

1019
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say shit, you know what I mean.

1020
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm like I know it's gonna happen.

1021
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: But when it's a rap rap, okay, it's I can

1022
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: tell folks, I know it's it's we move it on,

1023
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: you feel me?

1024
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: But but yeah, yeah, so you kind of know that

1025
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: ship too. But yeah, you.

1026
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: Gotta you gotta gauge that every time you break up,

1027
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: your people can't know you broke up, you know.

1028
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: Right, right, because because that breakup might not be the

1029
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: real breakup. You might have got like two more breakups.

1030
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you but you be knowing how you feel though.

1031
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: I think when you start feeling like comfortable with the breakup,

1032
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: then you can start telling people, right, you know what

1033
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: I mean.

1034
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: I feel like when when you still want to work

1035
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: it out, then you got to keep it to yourself.

1036
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

1037
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: But when you come with the breakup, you know what

1038
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: I mean? You you can you can go ahead and

1039
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 2: yeah it's a young.

1040
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 4: Really, Oh my god, I thought, y'all, yeah, I thought you.

1041
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: Life is what it is, my friend, you know what

1042
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah? But all right, man, I think we

1043
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: think we think we hear the tough things break up.

1044
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: Bro We we had a difficult conversation that was about

1045
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 4: as easy as a difficult conversation can be.

1046
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Man, I love you, dude, I appreciate that.

1047
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, thanks, I'm going to go jerk off.

1048
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: You have a beautiful woman sending me nudes, and I'll

1049
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: keep you in mind to a mad this feeling into that.

1050
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All right, all yah, yuming.

1051
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 12: J I ain't never seen macking so beautiful. It's like

1052
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 12: you're ad, you bun to change any man, but.

1053
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: In mine you play. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Oh,

1054
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 2: Mama made.

1055
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: You so cold cold, come go down.

1056
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for you got me looking back like god, man,

1057
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: are you finn? Are you fine?

1058
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 6: Are you fine?

1059
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: You gotta be made, gotta.

1060
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 6: Be mine, you gotta be mine. You so bad, gotta

1061
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 6: get bad your hand you so bad. Gotta get bag.

1062
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 6: I gotta get bag. Gotta get back here.

1063
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: You so bad, you so bad, gotta get bag. I

1064
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: gotta get bag. You so bad. You're so bad.

1065
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 6: Where they make you from, because you are of hell.

1066
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: You're looking like the wan, feeling like got my.

1067
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 3: Get on me right now.

1068
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: Guys say some bowels.

1069
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 6: Yay, you know me, sound guy, That's why, that's why,

1070
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 6: that's why you need the.

1071
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: Crown gap You're the round m VP. You're the best

1072
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: having me, and I'm greatful for.

1073
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: You.

1074
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: Got me.

1075
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: Look at.

1076
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 2: You're fun.

1077
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 6: At you fine, got your fun.

1078
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: You gotta be mine.

1079
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: Gotta be mine.

1080
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 6: You gotta be mine.

1081
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: You're so bad.

1082
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: Gotta get back. You're so bad. How