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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson And it is a what is today Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like a Wednesday. Feels like a Wednesday. Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is Tuesday here in Pittsburgh. The snow that

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Speaker 1: we had over the weekend and last week it started

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Speaker 1: to melt. This is supposed to be out of here

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Speaker 1: by the weekend. Uh, we're supposed to get up back

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Speaker 1: up into the fifties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, m don't even bother shoveling, right.

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Speaker 1: He could just melt it right off. Uh, but you

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Speaker 1: know that's why you go through this stuff though. And

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Speaker 1: as we get farther and farther away from the Steelers

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Speaker 1: season ending in Buffalo, uh we week and a half

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Speaker 1: ago now, Yeah, basically we start to get some news about, uh,

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's happening here. Jerry du Leak

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Speaker 1: of The Post, is that reporting today that Tarrell Austin

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Speaker 1: expected to be back as the team's defensive coordinator. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise. Yeah, people see some angst about that. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: they finished sixth in scoring defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah high.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you'd have told me that they would

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Speaker 1: play games a lot of games without Cam Hayward and

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Speaker 1: make a Fitzpatrick the inside linebackers would be what it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like and you still finished sixth in points allowed.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I wouldn't say it's a super talented secondary either

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Speaker 2: or even back seven. They got a lot out of

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Speaker 2: those guys and coached up the rows of the world

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Speaker 2: and all those dudes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so held it together with duct tape in

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and so I know that doesn't shock me

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Speaker 2: at all. I think that's the right move. Yeah. He

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Speaker 2: seems like a bright coach that has you know, done

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Speaker 2: a really good job. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We'll see about some of the others, you know, whether

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Speaker 1: they come back or not. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: those Steelers have coaching staff. Their contracts were up this year,

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Speaker 1: so you know, guys could have they could choose to

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Speaker 1: come back. You know, the team could just keep them.

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Speaker 1: They may they.

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Speaker 2: They may want something. They may went back to their

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Speaker 2: alma mater or whatever to or back to their hometown

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Speaker 2: or whatever as well.

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Speaker 1: They're free agents.

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Speaker 2: Basically, I assume it's still the case. But usually, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: usually assistant coaches are on two year deals. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: so when you say they're up, it's like, well, that's

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Speaker 2: every other year they're up, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So we have started to get some news trickling

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Speaker 1: out about potential offensive coordinators as well. One of the

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Speaker 1: guys that I kind of targeted at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: this and I don't know if we mentioned it on

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Speaker 1: the air, but I know I mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah to me several I can vouch for you

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Speaker 2: on this one.

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Speaker 1: Zach Robinson from the from the Rams.

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Speaker 1: And even when we talked about it yesterday when I

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Speaker 1: I like the style of offense that they play. I know

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Speaker 1: he the passing game coordinator there, but they are a

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Speaker 1: very run heavy team.

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Speaker 2: They are, they are.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Green Bay as well. Uh. Then Peter King

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Speaker 1: this morning on on on a local radio show mentioned

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Speaker 1: that they're going to talk to Cliff Kingsbury. Okay, not

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Speaker 1: quite as excited about that one.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm much more excited about Robinson. Robinson's young. He

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Speaker 2: was a quarterback at Oklahoma State well before Rudolph, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a decade older than rude off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they know each other, which, for whatever that's worth,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's why you hire him, but I

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Speaker 2: mean he's a stat nerd, but at least he has

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Speaker 2: a background at analytics and has been around it. The

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Speaker 2: Rams are a young staff, a progressive thinking group with

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Speaker 2: but Robinson and Frankly we were talking about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a much more physical, you know, run

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Speaker 1: you know, bring again Kingsbury comes in. Oh Le's run

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Speaker 2: This Kingsbury doesn't make much sense to me, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about a guy in Kingsbury. Yeah that when

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Speaker 1: thirty five and forty at Texas Tech is the head coach.

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Speaker 1: I might remind people then he had Patrick Flipping Mahomes right.

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Speaker 1: His last two seasons with Mahomes well, the three twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes right. So I'm sure people will at least

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Speaker 2: remember he was a head coach for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: In which he went twenty eight and thirty seven and one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, inherited a team that had the first overall pick

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Speaker 2: at that point Kyler Murray should be the first overall pick.

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Speaker 2: But he convinced them that the stude you drafted ninth overall,

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Speaker 2: maybe even earlier Rosen is not for us, you know,

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Speaker 2: a year later, and he actually end up being right.

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Speaker 2: Rosen ended up busting out, but they traded him for

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Speaker 2: for this kind of wide open spread, real big twelve

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Speaker 2: the allure, to be honest with you, especially with this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I get it. You know, some

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Speaker 1: your personnel. Maybe that's what you know, you felt that

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Speaker 2: Sure, and he certainly could be a very good coordinator,

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Speaker 2: bad head coach. There's some of that too, and that

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Speaker 2: absolutely could be part of it where just let him

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Speaker 2: and doesn't have to be in charge of Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: or the Arizona Cardinals or whomever. But again, assistant coach

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Speaker 2: is a hard thing to comment on. But I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see. I mean, I'm sure those aren't

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's going to talk to. I'm sure there may

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Speaker 1: But those are the two that have been put out there.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that people talked about with

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Speaker 1: don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up, you know, because

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Speaker 2: he mentioned at the press conference, we're looking for someone

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Speaker 1: But as I mentioned yesterday, just because McVeigh is their

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Speaker 1: opportun unity to call plays. Or maybe he you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a lot of times where he, you know,

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Speaker 1: he is the passing game coordinator. He's drawing up the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every team's different with that too, And the fact

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Speaker 2: that he is passing game coordinator is a nice way

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Speaker 2: to say he's not just Joe average assistant for us.

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Speaker 2: He makes more than anybody else on staff. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he has more. Say, I'm sure when McVeigh is off

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Speaker 2: it falls on him, right, you know, I mean he

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Speaker 2: you know, builds a game plan in all those things.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing, so you know, when you talk about

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Speaker 1: things like that, I found this fascinating. We find out

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Speaker 1: that the Tennessee Titans last night are hiring Brian Callahan,

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Speaker 1: who was the offensive coordinator in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Who also didn't call plays.

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Speaker 1: He didn't call plays in Cincinnati. Yeah, now he's going

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Speaker 1: to be the head coach in Tennessee and call the plays.

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Speaker 2: That's strange. I mean, again, I hate talking about assistant coaches. Say,

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Speaker 2: I don't know these people. And maybe he's the most

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Speaker 2: impressive guy you'll ever sit down, and much like Tomlin

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Speaker 2: was when he got hired. Maybe he's that savant and

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Speaker 2: he's a great leader of men. And his father's a

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Speaker 2: that he grew up under a coach you know, understands

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Speaker 2: that the riggers of this job. I think that's good

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you.

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Speaker 1: Get to bring Joe Burrow with him? Say?

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Speaker 2: the fact that he hasn't called plays, it would be

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Speaker 2: a big enough jump to say we're hiring you as

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Speaker 2: riggers and ways Whiston turns you, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think there's a lot of room

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Speaker 1: Then he was the offensive quality control assistant in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: in twenty twelve for Denver for Denver, then he was

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Speaker 2: So he never he never even had a position coach. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then the Lions hired him in twenty and sixteen, twenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty eighteen he's the quarterbacks coach in Oakland for

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Speaker 1: Now you're the head coach and you're going to call

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Speaker 2: Is that when Taylor got hired. Yeah, so that he

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Speaker 2: brought him in as his OC.

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Speaker 1: So the only success that he's had as a coach

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Speaker 1: has been with Joe Burrow. Yeah, So I said, do

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Speaker 1: you get to bring Joe Burrow with you? Because if

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Speaker 2: Again, he's probably very impressive to talk to. He's probably

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm sure he's smart and he's got

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Speaker 2: a lot of good things going. Yeah, don't get a job. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: No. I mean, I guess from a Steeler perspective, great

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes, you know, we jumped the gun a

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than than like Tomlin's situation

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Speaker 1: To go like from being an offensive assistant that nobody's

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Speaker 1: that tapes and stuff exactly. The big difference between doing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, if if he gets

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Speaker 1: He could do that because he's going to call the place.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he definitely could. And maybe that's part of it,

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Speaker 2: tough job. If it was Belichick taking the job, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So there's also word out there that that Hardball is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep thinking Atlanta is almost a done deal,

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Speaker 2: I assume one thing I can't remember if I've talked

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about money control, day to day operations. Who's

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Speaker 1: Spot yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, does he want to

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Speaker 2: I can see Vrabel at his age, but not Belichick

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Speaker 2: But think about this, there's only five more jobs. Now.

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Speaker 2: know there's five Seattle in Seattle. Yeah, if Harbaugh takes one,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's four out of five. I mean, is

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Speaker 1: Or is it you know, is it Detroit's defensive coordinator?

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Speaker 1: Right, So it's tough. I mean there's only thirty two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, that ain't happening. But it's just

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Speaker 2: No, and you're thinking they're going to snowball and start

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Speaker 1: The more teams that do that, do hires like this,

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Speaker 1: to go there. No, I don't want to go to Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: Right, right, I mean I want to gowhere that right.

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Speaker 2: And really have the offense be mine, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not an offensive mind to head coach

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Speaker 2: you would be obviously running things by Tomlin, but you

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Speaker 2: Which isn't the Panthers in terms of Browns in terms

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Speaker 2: Have no idea how many are even open. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know Cincinnati is, I know Cleveland is,

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Speaker 1: Would I like to be on Andy Reid staff, Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: Did he he wasn't he do it? No, he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: That's why he left because he wanted the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: And he didn't fall in his face, But he also

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Speaker 2: Like financially, it's much better to go to Carolina, of course,

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be horrible. It's not gonna be Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm with you. I I you know. They

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Speaker 2: I don't see a track record there either. Yeah. He

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Speaker 1: I'd rather hire Rabel as my GM.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but I will see as a track

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Speaker 2: Right, So, but I will say him the more think

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, you took my pick in fantasy right before

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I'm sure the new guy

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Speaker 1: And you just made you just had a team that

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Speaker 2: the third youngest in the league, you have to think,

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Speaker 2: like a friar mouth has his best days are ahead

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Speaker 2: of them or so.

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Speaker 1: That would be one thing to me, right, like not

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Speaker 1: only when I'm talking to the offensive coordinator candidates, because

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Speaker 1: again we mentioned this last week. If you look at

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Speaker 1: the teams that were in the final eight, all had

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Speaker 1: tight ends that they yes, well yeah, now you look

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Speaker 1: at the final four and that really is the case,

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Speaker 1: Like these four teams all feature their tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like the best in the league. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: So one of my without Andrews returns to right, one of.

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Speaker 1: The things that I would that I would certainly ask

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Speaker 1: if I'm sitting in these these these meetings with these

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Speaker 1: potential offensive coordner candidates, how are you going to better

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Speaker 1: feature our tight ends? Because they only got sixty two

450
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Speaker 1: passes this year enough, that's not enough enough.

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Speaker 2: And I understand he was in and out of the

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Speaker 2: line of priormouth, but you got to use them more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be around ninety.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Actually wrote something about that just last night.

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Speaker 2: You know that that has to be one of the

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Speaker 2: underlying things that has to happen with this offense to

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Speaker 2: do more.

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Speaker 1: I just wrote the same thing less.

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Speaker 2: Than We've been talking about it for a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's just one bullet point, but you have your friend.

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Speaker 1: Was But to me, I mean, that's it's not as

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Speaker 1: important as the you know, the quarterback situation for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 1: But it's certainly a big offshoot of.

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Speaker 2: It because the guy has a lot of ability, and

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Speaker 2: he is a history, and he's young and he's only

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Speaker 2: twenty five years old.

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Speaker 1: I mean, fireman, and I look at the teams that

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Speaker 1: are still alive, and that's that's a commonality between those.

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Speaker 2: Teams and even Washington. I don't think he's ever going

470
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Speaker 2: to catch fifty balls, but he could catch twenty, right,

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Speaker 2: be a little more of a threat.

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Speaker 1: You still have Hayward there. I mean, you have guys

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Speaker 1: that you can throw the ball to. You just have

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Speaker 1: to do it.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. I think that position has some

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Speaker 2: untap potential, a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolli. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and Matt. I wanted to clear something up here that

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Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday when I was talking about Isaac

483
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Speaker 1: Williams coaching the offensive line en bol uh, they actually

484
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Speaker 1: named two coaches for each for each team. So he's

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Speaker 1: coaching the American offensive line group. And so when I

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Speaker 1: went through those names yesterday, that was only half of them.

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Speaker 1: I thought they put both coaches out, So, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: he'll be coaching with Chris Watt, who's the offense an

489
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach for the Colts. So they that group

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Speaker 1: will he'll be the group he'll be working with will

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Speaker 1: be Brandon Coleman Javian.

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Speaker 2: One doing the tackles.

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Speaker 1: I guess they would kind of figure that out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's somehow, that's sometimes that's when they split.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremy Flax of Kentucky, Javon Foster of Missouri, Delmar

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Speaker 1: Glaze of Maryland, Tyler Geyton of Oklahoma. And this is

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Speaker 1: where the confusion what I mentioned. Yeah, well, they got

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Speaker 1: Christian Haynes from Yukon, Christian Jones from Texas, uh bow

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Speaker 1: him or who's the center from Arkansas, Patrick Paul who's

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Speaker 1: the offensive tackle for Houston. Then you've got Oklahoma center

501
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Speaker 1: center Andrew Raimu. You got Texas A and M guard

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Speaker 1: Laden Robinson, LSU center Charles Turner, and Georgia center Cedric

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Speaker 1: van Prant.

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Speaker 2: Who's also been kind of on on lists for a

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Speaker 2: long time. He's a Georgia guy. He's probably a Day

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Speaker 2: two pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a group there. He's gonna get eyes on

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Speaker 1: more more than what I just what I thought.

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Speaker 2: Quite a few centers. It sounded like, yeah too, which

510
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Speaker 2: could be an area of need for the Steelers as well.

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Speaker 2: But while we're on a quick draft note, I didn't

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Speaker 2: realize this until this morning, but number of juniors that

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Speaker 2: declared was unusually low. It was like fifty.

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Speaker 1: Well that's because it's like forty I think it's forty five.

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Speaker 2: Well I didn't know it was under fifty. After that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: usually it's one hundred. Issh.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's because of the you

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Speaker 1: get money and I l's back and play another year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not such a bad game. We talked to

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Speaker 2: yesterday on campus.

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Speaker 1: The guy from Miami who played nine years in Commons

522
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Speaker 1: and sand play nine years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's going to be happening more and more.

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Speaker 1: Now, how many different majors he's got more than me.

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Speaker 1: He's like Blueto.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's like five degrees. Maybe he's a super genius.

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Speaker 1: It could be spend nine years in college. I love college,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'd go back in a second.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I wanted to spend nine years

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Speaker 1: and nine years.

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Speaker 2: Of eligibility right right, that's craziness. Yeah. That didn't add

533
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Speaker 2: up though with the Senior Bowl stuff, like you're not

534
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Speaker 2: going to just make more dudes, right, Yeah, you need

535
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Speaker 2: to fill out the roster more.

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Speaker 1: So he's got It's not a bad overall group, there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of first talent in there, there's some other

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Speaker 1: day two guys.

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Speaker 2: That the Yukon guy gets some. He's been on lists

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Speaker 2: and stuff as well. And you know, I know we're

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Speaker 2: going to be studying him a lot. You know, you

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Speaker 2: sent me some videos last night of Senior Bowl dudes,

543
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Speaker 2: and I'm starting to read up on these guys a

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Speaker 2: little bit more. And you know I won't be there,

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Speaker 2: but I'll do my best, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you'll watch all the practices.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, without doubt.

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Speaker 1: Mel Kiper dropped his like a big day in the

549
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Speaker 1: draft world, his first mock. Yeah, the first one here.

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Speaker 2: Let's run.

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Speaker 1: So he's got Caleb Williams going number one in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's getting very very chalking.

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Speaker 1: At two, he has Washington taking Jade and Daniels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually looked at this and I listened to

555
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Speaker 2: his podcast this morning recapping it as well as Bucky

556
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Speaker 2: Brooks's too. I have to podcast mania this morning. He's

557
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Speaker 2: starting to think that Daniel Well, what he said was

558
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Speaker 2: Daniels just had a better year. I mean, he need

559
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Speaker 2: a better year than everybody, but he had a better

560
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Speaker 2: year than May That he said The NFL is very

561
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Speaker 2: split on these two. Most consider Williams the clear one,

562
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Speaker 2: but Daniels versus May is kind of Lamar Vus Herbert

563
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Speaker 2: in times in terms of how they play.

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Speaker 1: Those are the comparisons you want to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got a super high character, dude, tough,

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Speaker 2: I mean, played great against big time schools.

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Speaker 1: He's got the Patriots in taking May at three.

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Speaker 2: So if you're the Patriots, if that's really if they're

569
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Speaker 2: all kind of equal, those two, you take a quarterback, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals take Marvin Harrison. The Chargers take brock Bauers. Those

571
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Speaker 1: are starting to get a little shalky now too.

572
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Speaker 2: And he went into detail about that too, just like

573
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Speaker 2: he said, I thought about receiver, but they were receiver

574
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Speaker 2: last year, and you know he realized that Alan or

575
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Speaker 2: Williams might not be there, but he really is high

576
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Speaker 2: on brock Bauer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At six, the Giants take Malik Neighbors. At seven,

578
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Speaker 1: the Titans take Joe Alt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At eight, the Falcons take Dallas Turner, the outside linebacker

581
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Speaker 1: out of Alabama.

582
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Speaker 2: Could be I mean, I would think it's quarterback. Either

583
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Speaker 2: that pick is somehow used for a quarterback or best

584
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Speaker 2: defensive guy Can and that seems like the edge. Dudes,

585
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Speaker 2: it's early for corners, it's early for linebackers, early for

586
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Speaker 2: d tackles.

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Speaker 1: At nine that the Bears take Room and Dunez.

588
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Speaker 2: Mel loves Ramaduzia. I'm surprised he didn't fall that far,

589
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Speaker 2: but he's really torn between neighbors or a done is

590
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Speaker 2: the two, but I'm pretty happy with Williams and Dunzie.

591
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Ten, the Jets take Forshanu, the offensive tackle out

592
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: of Penn State.

593
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Speaker 2: Which you'd probably be thrilled at it if you're sitting there.

594
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Speaker 2: At ten, to get that.

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Speaker 1: Guy, Aaron Rodgers would be throwing by Aaron Rodgers throw right.

596
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Speaker 1: Maybe'd like another weapon. They can just sign one from

597
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Speaker 1: Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I forget what Mel was calling them, but something like

599
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Speaker 2: the nifty nine or whatever, those nine offensive players. That

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Speaker 2: was a tenth pick, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, because there's

601
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Speaker 2: a need rusher and there Dallas Turner was in there,

602
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Speaker 2: but that he really thinks those nine could be the

603
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Speaker 2: first nine picks or nine of the first ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At eleven, the Vikings State Nate take Nate Wiggins,

605
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Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Clemson.

606
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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if there's a consensus who's the

607
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Speaker 2: number one corner.

608
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Speaker 1: But at twelve, the Broncos take Lay two, the outside

609
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Speaker 1: linebacker at a UCLA. He'll be at the senior boy.

610
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bol's got some stars.

611
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Speaker 1: At thirteen, the Raiders take Terry and Arnold, the cornerback

612
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Speaker 1: out of Alabama.

613
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Speaker 2: I'm really warming up to him too. He as tough

614
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: as could be in physical and competitive. I mean, he's

615
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: a good player.

616
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Speaker 1: At fourteen, the Saints take Brian Thomas Junior, the wide

617
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Speaker 1: receiver out of LSU.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna get the twenty. I don't

619
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Speaker 2: know if i'd take him at twenty, but I'm going

620
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Speaker 2: to say I don't show. Yeah, I would like the option.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah. At fifteen, the Colts take key On Coleman, the

622
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Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Florida State.

623
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Speaker 2: Another big guy that looks like Thomas is starting to

624
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Speaker 2: edge him out a little bit, but luck and change.

625
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Speaker 1: Sixteen, the Seahawks take JJ McCarthy, the quarterback out of Michigan.

626
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Speaker 2: Mel was pretty adamant on the podcast that he thinks

627
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Speaker 2: McCarthy's a going the first round, and a big thing

628
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Speaker 2: he said is he's going to test extremely well and

629
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Speaker 2: he's going to interview extremely well, Okay, I mean for

630
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Speaker 2: what that's worth. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a lot

631
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Speaker 2: of landing spots where he could the Raiders or.

632
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Speaker 1: I just know that Michigan didn't let him throw the

633
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Speaker 1: ball a lot. No.

634
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Speaker 2: No, And when I saw him, I wasn't blown away.

635
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Speaker 2: I didn't think the first round player. I thought he

636
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: was like a Levis last year. Okay, take a shot

637
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: in them early second and that's what he seems like

638
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: to me.

639
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: But yeah. At seventeen, the Jaguars take Cooper de Jean,

640
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Iowa, breaking breaking my heart.

641
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: You're breaking your heart? Yeah, I got close.

642
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: At eighteen, the Bengals take J. C. Latham, the offensive

643
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: tackle out of Alabama.

644
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Have they taken a tackle every mock? We've seen pretty

645
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Speaker 2: much everyone.

646
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Speaker 1: In fact, there's another one that released today from Bucky Brooks.

647
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Speaker 2: It doesn't have time much familiar with that.

648
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I haven't taken a tackle. At nineteen, the Rams take

649
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: your Adversary, the defensive end out of Florida State.

650
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: That would be a good mix with their young defensive lineman.

651
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: At twenty, the Steelers take Kamari Lassiter, the cornerback out

652
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: of Georgia.

653
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: Ok. Yeah, again, a lot of corners in this neighborhood

654
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: that are attractive.

655
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty one, the Dolphins take Troy Fatanu, the

656
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: guard out of Washington. It would be at the Senior Bowl. No, yeah,

657
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: who'd you say took him Miami?

658
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: That makes sense too, he might be their left tackle.

659
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: Uh. Twenty two, the Eagles take Telasi Flaga, the offensive

660
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: tackle out of Oregon State. He's at the Senior Bowl.

661
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: There are some really good linemen Senier Bowl. I get

662
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: that they take lineman all the time, but then Kelsey's

663
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: leaving and maybe Lane Johnson's.

664
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: So use a defensive player at some point.

665
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're back seven. It is really bad and their

666
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: defense was horrific the second half of the season.

667
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: At twenty three, the Texans take Jerson Newton. That's Cleveland's pick,

668
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: by the way.

669
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, first offense tackle off the board. Yeah, yeah, they

670
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: could use them.

671
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Twenty four, the Cowboys take Jordan Morgan, the offensive tackle

672
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: out of Arizona.

673
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 2: See them often mocked with a tackle. They gave steel

674
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: money in Tyron Smith. I know he's a free agent,

675
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: but he's probably gonna return. But maybe they tired though.

676
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been up an age and he's fought

677
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: injuries for a long time.

678
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: At twenty five, the Packers take Kingsley Suam a tie, Yeah,

679
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: the offense tackle out of BYU. He'll be at the senior.

680
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: There really so, I was doing a little homework on

681
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: him last night. Boy is he an athlete? I mean

682
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: he was on the Bruce Feldman freak list for everything

683
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: you can imagine that. Everyone in BYU even says he's

684
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: clearly more athletic than Friedland, who the Colts took, who

685
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: ran really really well. But isn't his change of direction ish?

686
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: But curious what you think of him moving around?

687
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Twenty six, the Bucks take Shop Robinson out of Penn State.

688
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: Okay, something, he's just a situational pass rusher that he's

689
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 2: not in every down player, but he's good at it.

690
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they so. Yah Yad Diabi

691
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: they drafted this year had seven and a half sex

692
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: They still have try.

693
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: On Yeah, right, he used to be trying on Now

694
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: he's try on Showenka.

695
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, how many of those guys do you need?

696
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what Shaq Barrett's situation is. Yeah, he

697
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: missed all year right, I believe. Yeah, he hasn't played lately.

698
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: And they drafted Kancy in the first round last year,

699
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: who's not the same position, but he's also undersized for

700
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: his position. You know, I don't know. Their roster's not great, Yeah,

701
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: and they need a lot of stuff.

702
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: At twenty seven, the Cardinals take Tyler Geiton, the offensive

703
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: tackle out of Oklahoma.

704
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: That would make sense. Yeah, he'll be at the Senior Bowl. Okay,

705
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: pair him with Marvin Harrison.

706
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: At twenty eight, the Bills take a Donnie Mitchell, the

707
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Texas.

708
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: I'd be worried about their receivers. Yeah, I mean his

709
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: dig shot is is he a cap casualty shot? It's

710
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: he fighting an injury. Shakira is a nice story. Gave

711
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Davis a free agent. I mean, good thing you have Kincaid.

712
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't afford I mean they're forty million dollars

713
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: over the salary cap and they've got starters.

714
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Who yeah, agents, the Bills roster is going to be

715
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: worse next year than it is this year.

716
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: At twenty nine, the Chiefs take Troy Franklin, the wide

717
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: receiver out of Oregon.

718
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: That makes sense. I mean, like Rashie Rice looks like

719
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: he took him a while, but he looks like he's

720
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: a hit. But he's not a down the field guy. Yeah.

721
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to take a receiver, I

722
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: would think it's a field stretcher like Franklin.

723
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: At thirty the Lions take when you Mitchell, the cornerback

724
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: out of Toledo.

725
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna like him a lot too. Yeah,

726
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: he has a Senior Bowl by chance. Do you know

727
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: I think he is? I hope, Yeah, I think he's small.

728
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: I think he is. I could see him shining there.

729
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Him, He and Enis Rakestraw are both there. Oh really?

730
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: Rakestraw goes with the next pick to the Baltimore Ravens.

731
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ravens sag.

732
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

733
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: I could see the Ravens sagon are back high, not

734
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: in the first round, by the first roun Yeah, yeah,

735
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I could see them taking a back on day two.

736
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: And then at thirty two, the forty nine ers take

737
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: our Marius Mims, the offensive tackle out of Georgia.

738
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: He's a big time project talent. Yeah, they could use him. Yeah.

739
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: Williams is gonna last forever, and the rest of their

740
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: lines so so.

741
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: So I've been goofing around with some mock drafts. Yeah,

742
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: over the last few nights, did it wise? Watching the game,

743
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I've started to come to the conclusion that if I'm

744
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers, I'm not taking an offensive tackle in the

745
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: first round. You're gonna have to convince me my biggest

746
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: my biggest needs going into this draft or what.

747
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: Well, I think the secondary needs a lot.

748
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Of bodies secondary, a center, center, and maybe a left tackle.

749
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: I can live with the left tackle situation. I can't

750
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: live with the center, Agreed. I can't live with the

751
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: secondary the way it is.

752
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: No secondary needs a lot of So if.

753
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to go into this draft and prioritize those

754
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: things which no matter what teams.

755
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: Say you do that they always do.

756
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the way this draft shakes out to me,

757
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm taking the cornerback in the first round. I'm taking

758
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: a center in the second round. I'm not interested in

759
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: trying and trying to hope that I can turn Kendrick

760
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: Green in the third round into into my starting center.

761
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, I hear you there, And I have to

762
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: do more work on terms of depth. I have heard

763
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: there's a lot of corners. I bet there's not going

764
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: to be tackles on Day two. I think it's Round one,

765
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: first stud.

766
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: That's fine. You know, I can get a tackle next year,

767
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: and I can then I get to I get the two.

768
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: My two tackles are tapered a little bit in terms

769
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: of the years.

770
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: See. The only thing that I'm thinking, though, is I

771
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: would strongly consider one of about four free agent centers

772
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: and just be done there. I would also consider James Daniels.

773
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: Do you want to move the center or you still?

774
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Is that an option? And Dan Moore becomes my right guard,

775
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: and then I draft a tackle if it falls that way.

776
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: I think you need a lot of secondary though. I mean,

777
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: I think you need four of them.

778
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: That's why I would rather get a stud there. Yeah,

779
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have your You're gonna there may be two,

780
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: maybe three taken before you make your picks, and it's

781
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a nice sweet spot in a really strong spot.

782
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't mind getting an outside corner early and

783
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: a slot type later in the draft.

784
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: Agreed that maybe even have some safety capability. You know,

785
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah he's a slot that's fine, Yeah, that's franch is absolutely.

786
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: But if I I can't do that, I don't believe

787
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: going cornerback in the second round or third round. I'm

788
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: not interested in that. I want to get that that

789
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: my my defense is too old is my main thinking there.

790
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: It's funny because I was about to say the same

791
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: thing is I think they will spend some money in

792
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: the secondary, you know, before we even get into the draft.

793
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: But you probably do that at safety. I don't know,

794
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: it's a cheaper spot to fill because I don't.

795
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: Think Wallace will be back. I don't know if Peterson

796
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 2: will be back. I don't think Sullivan will be back.

797
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't know Kaz will be back. I mean, I

798
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: think you can.

799
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: But I can get I can go get sat a

800
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: cheap They're cheap.

801
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you can get a quality upgrade at safety

802
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: without breaking the bank. Same with center.

803
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything with Patrick Peterson. I

804
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: can roll into the start of next season with Peterson

805
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: as my starter like I did this year, tab for

806
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: like the first few games of the year, and then

807
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: the idea is that we're going to slide him into

808
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: more of a dime spot later in the year while

809
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: my while I get my rookie safe, my rookie cornerback

810
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: ready to go. No.

811
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that either. I just don't think

812
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: it's off the table that they go sign Jalen Johnson.

813
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean a big ticket corner. I mean, if they spend.

814
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be twenty money. That's twenty plus million dollars.

815
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't see the pricey pricing.

816
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't see them or Steed or again twenty million dollars.

817
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what's going to be. I mean if

818
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: they if they spend money on a dude, I think

819
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: it'll be a corner. I mean everything that.

820
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: The Steelers did last year in free agency, and they

821
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: were very active, what they their style. What they didn't

822
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: do was spend all on one big ticket item. They're

823
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: more about, let's build the depth, five guys, let's get Yeah.

824
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: Why why spend twenty million dollars on one guy when

825
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: I can spend twenty million dollars on five.

826
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not disagreeing with you on corner because it

827
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: sets up really well at twenty yeah. And I doubt

828
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: that'll change all that much. I mean, the names might

829
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: shuffle around a little, and.

830
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not I still think you take maybe an offensive

831
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: tackle later in a draft. I don't have a problem

832
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: with that, and that's your developmental guy. But I'm not

833
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sold that Spencer Anderson is not going to

834
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: be something down the road. Oh I know.

835
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean he may be his starting center or something

836
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: as well. I think he's in the mix too. Yeah,

837
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I kind of am leaning towards spending

838
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: money on a center, although the day two centers are attractive,

839
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, second round centers.

840
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: That's where I mean. I think the number one center

841
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: might might be at their pick at fifty five.

842
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one guy that seems to be is the

843
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: Oregon kid with three names something something Johnson. He's at

844
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: the He's de Sceenia bol Yeah, I've seen him. It

845
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: might even be. Bucky's mock had him going to the

846
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: Steelers at twenty No, the pick after the Steelers. Okay, Okay.

847
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: I was half listening this morning, okay, because I was like, wow,

848
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: that's early.

849
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

850
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: But there's the West Virginia kid, there's Georgia. I mean,

851
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: there's a handful of centers that are attractive.

852
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would rather get one of those guys and

853
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: make it like now I can build my line. Yeah,

854
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I got my I got my I think you end

855
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: up seeing Broderc Jones at left tackle next year. Okay,

856
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: And I got my center. If I get to build

857
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: my line.

858
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: The right tackle, yeah, okay, you think they'll flop.

859
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: I got to build my line. Those are the two

860
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: spots that I start with, is what center and left tackle? Okay,

861
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: and now I can Now I can build out from there.

862
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I don't disagree. But where's the free

863
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: agent money going to be spent before the draft?

864
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Safety? Inside linebacker? Maybe I get a slot corner in

865
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: free agency. Those aren't super expensive.

866
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: So they're not and then you, I mean, then you

867
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: get stuff cheap after the draft too, as they always do.

868
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: And you might want to sign a vetter, another veteran

869
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver.

870
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: See I'd like the draft the receiver. That's the other

871
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: one on Wanll.

872
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's much more likely. But

873
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think again, I think it's more about

874
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: building the depth, because I the one reason that the

875
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: biggest reason the Steelers won this year is because of

876
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: their depth.

877
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and we raved about it in camp. We

878
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: raved about it on the final roster.

879
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Putting guys coming off. You had guys coming off the bench,

880
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: who were not going to be overwhelmed going into Baltimore.

881
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: We're going to see Attle, We're going to wherever late

882
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: in the season when you needed to win and you

883
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 1: had to count on these guys. It's a lot better

884
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: doing that than some un drafted Brookie that you're we

885
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: don't know what. We hope he's going to be good

886
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: and I don't know.

887
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: And back to the safety conversation, I'd like to have

888
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: Row in the mix too. Yeah, I should have mentioned

889
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: him earlier, but I'd like that maybe not a starter,

890
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: but on the team basically. Yeah, so the one this

891
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 2: draft looks like it sets up very well for Steelers' needs,

892
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: whether tackle, receiver, center, corner, et cetera, et cetera. But

893
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: as we mentioned, I'd almost rather spend money on offense

894
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: and picks on defense because one side's really old, one

895
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: sid's really young, you know, But it doesn't set up

896
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: great that way, you know, like, except for drafting a corner,

897
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean, drafting a corner would help you get younger

898
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: on defense. Obviously, I hate buying tackles and receivers in

899
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: the draft. In free agency though, especially with this draft class.

900
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you have to do that, I

901
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: think you might have to buy tackle. Yeah. I think

902
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: there's a wide receiver depth to be had later as well.

903
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: Yes, Day two receiver be fine with me too. Yeah.

904
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: But I think to me, the two biggest needs, the

905
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: ones that I want to fill immediately are cornerback in center.

906
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: They're probably your weakest positions today.

907
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

908
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to fight you on that. Yeah.

909
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: I just think that I think we're looking at it differently.

910
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like if the draft were today, Yes, I

911
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: just wonder where you're going to use thirty million of

912
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: free agency money before the draft or wherever they're gonna spend.

913
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to you gotta resign guys like

914
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden. You get you've got some guys that you

915
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: want to bring back his depth, he s aremm Watts,

916
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: guys like that montrevious Adams that there that starts to

917
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: eat away the cap money pretty quickly does.

918
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: But I mean I would consider like going to get

919
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: Connor Williams from Miami as my starting center and just

920
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: being done there, or James or the Addish, none of

921
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: them are superstars, but just not counting on a rookie center.

922
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't know the cider class is exciting though to yeah, we.

923
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: Gotta get to a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie.

924
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925
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926
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933
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Speaker 1: I'm Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

934
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, I don't know if you

935
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: saw this, but the guys over and over the cap

936
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: have done their projection on the compensatory pics for twenty.

937
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 2: Two good okay, no, I haven't.

938
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: These usually come out right around the NFL Owner Meeting

939
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: time in March, or maybe sometime between that and the combine.

940
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: There's always in that area there, you know, late late

941
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 1: February or February March in that yeah time the draft.

942
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but they've it's supposed to be like such

943
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: a huge mystery. No one understood the formula, and I

944
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: guess some people have cracked the code all of a sudden.

945
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: They're very acurate about it. Yeah.

946
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: They gouts from over the cap figured it out pretty well.

947
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

948
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: So they got three third round picks. That would be

949
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville for Juwant losing Juwan Taylor. Imagine that.

950
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah nice, nice, jackson Will wins twice on that. Yeah.

951
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: H Philadelphia for losing Javon Hargrave, San Francisco for losing

952
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo again.

953
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: San Franz great in the comp game.

954
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: And then Buffalo for losing Tremaine Edmonds.

955
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: Okay, all big ticket items, but those are good, good

956
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: teams getting high picks.

957
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah uh. Baltimore gets a fourth round pick for losing

958
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: Ben Powers.

959
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: Oh I'd rather have the fourth round pick.

960
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah uh. Then you got a bunch of fifth round

961
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: pickture and some of these involved Steeler guys signings. So

962
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: you got the Saints getting a fifth for David on Yamata,

963
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Green Bay getting a fifth for Allan Lazard.

964
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: Wow, I remember they didn't bring anything in.

965
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they deal for the Jets too. That's crazy.

966
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: That's Rogers Bud.

967
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: The Saints get a fifth for Marcus Davenport.

968
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

969
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: The Eagles get a fifth for Isaac Samalu makes sense. Uh.

970
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: The Eagles get a fifth for Andre Dillard. They're happy

971
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: about that one. The Chiefs get a fifth for Andrew Wiley.

972
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Dallas gets a fifth for Connor McGovern. New Orleans gets

973
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: a fifth for Cayden Ellis. Cincinnati gets a fifth for

974
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: von Bell. San Francisco gets a fifth for Sampson ekebonbu Cohn.

975
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: I should say. Uh. The Rams get a fifth for

976
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. The Eagles get a fifth for t. J. Edwards.

977
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: That's it for the fifth round, guys. Now we move

978
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: on to the sixth round, guys, and Jacksonville gets a

979
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: sixth for arden Key. The Rams get a six for

980
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: Matt Gay. The Cowboys get a six for Dalton Schultz.

981
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: San Francisco gets a six for Jimmy Ward. They get

982
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: a six for a losing a Z's al Shaher Green

983
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: gets a sixth for Jirn Reid. The Rams get a

984
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: sixth for Nick Scott, and they also get a sixth

985
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: for Ashawn Robinson.

986
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: Okay, music quality guys, but yeah, the picks are important.

987
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: And then the seventh rong guys. Green Bay gets a

988
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: seventh for Dean Lowry, Cincinnati gets a seventh for samaj

989
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: p Ryan, The Jets get a seventh for Nate Herbig,

990
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: the Jets get a seventh for Mike White, Tampa Bay

991
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: gets a seventh for Mike Edwards, the Chargers get a

992
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: seventh for Drew Trank Will, and the Jets get a

993
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: seventh for Dan Feeney. The ones who just missed out

994
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: were Jacksonville with Chris Manhertz, Dallas for Noah Brown, Jacksonville

995
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: for Marvin Jones, and Green Bay for the great Robert Tanian.

996
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so I can help explain this a little bit.

997
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: So unless there's suspend or like forfeited picks or fines

998
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: or anything like that, the draft ends up being.

999
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: It puts an extra round on.

1000
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty times thirty two. You know, that's why they's

1001
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: just missed because there's only so many you can have.

1002
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: And basically I don't know the formula, but it's a

1003
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: combination of mostly you know, why didn't Steelers get any Well,

1004
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: they brought in Solomalu.

1005
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: And her sign more guys than they than they lost.

1006
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it mostly it's a contract they signed, but

1007
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: it also has to do with playing time once you've arrived.

1008
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 2: So it's not you can't do the formula the day

1009
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: the season starts. It depends on you know, Herbig didn't

1010
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: play a lot or you know those type of things.

1011
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if if Herberg would have played a thousand snaps,

1012
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: maybe the Jets would have got six out of them

1013
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: instead of seventh. Things like that. So it's it's like,

1014
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: really the only downside to being buyers in free agency

1015
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: and having the gaps base, which will probably happen again

1016
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: this year. They're not going to lose prominent.

1017
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: Guys, prominent guys, but a lot of the guys on

1018
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: this list aren't super prominent guys.

1019
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: Now. No, but I would still think the Steelers bring

1020
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: in more than they lose.

1021
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you could, let's say you're lose an ar

1022
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: mom wants and he goes somewhere and starts, Well, that

1023
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: would be great, that would be great, right, right right,

1024
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, or Montrevius ad go somewhere else to start.

1025
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you sign somebody or replace those guys. But maybe

1026
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: not to the money that they're gonna they would get.

1027
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: I still think they signed four or five guys from

1028
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: outside the organization though, Yeah, you know, I still you

1029
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: bring in more than what you lose.

1030
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think last year was your big splash

1031
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: with I think I think this year it's more about

1032
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: resigning your own guys.

1033
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's extending firemooth and things like that too.

1034
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: You know, obviously the nause is fifth year optional, take

1035
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: a chunk out of it coming up, and things like

1036
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: that too. But yeah, maybe maybe, But I wouldn't count

1037
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: on a huge hole you're going to see.

1038
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: Youre going to sign Mason Rudolph. You have to make

1039
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: a pitch to do that. Yeah, And that's why re

1040
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: signing Rudolph, even if you have to overpay a little

1041
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 1: bit to do it, to me, is preferable then going

1042
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: outside and signing somebody else's back quarterback.

1043
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: I tend to agree. That's the only other one that

1044
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: I'd have interested in that's comparable, you know. And if

1045
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: you cut Trubisky, if you cut Wallace, you don't get

1046
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: anything back for them, and they signed somewhere else. So

1047
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: that's part of it too. I mean, they're going to

1048
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: reshuffle some some uh contracts around here.

1049
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to another break. He is the

1050
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Driver

1051
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. That's going to do it for

1052
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: our number one. We'll be back with our number two

1053
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: right after this