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Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within

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Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

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Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, March twelfth, twenty twenty four, and we

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Speaker 2: are officially forty four days away from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: in Detroit, Michigan. Time is dwindling, free agency is upon us,

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Speaker 2: and teams are starting to see what their roster could

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Speaker 2: look like going into the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller LT A

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Speaker 2: taste you can depend on. We've got Nick Harris, the Great,

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Speaker 2: Brian brought us, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle

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Speaker 2: Yeomans small crew today. A lot of stuff going on today,

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Speaker 2: a lot of free agency news, breaking news, people taking

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Speaker 2: care of looking at Oh, we got a light change

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Speaker 2: in here, everything around what this NFL season could look

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Speaker 2: like in twenty twenty four. But Brian, right now, it's

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of inaction for the Cowboys before going

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Speaker 2: into draft time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's if you've been around this team enough, if

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Speaker 3: you've worked for this team like you guys, do you

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Speaker 3: kind of understand where they're at. You run into people

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Speaker 3: in the hallways, they kind of give you a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a whisper, a little heads up, like, listen,

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Speaker 3: we're going to try and sign our own here. You know,

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Speaker 3: we've got some contracts we've got to look at. We've

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Speaker 3: going to maybe move some money around. But it's something

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Speaker 3: that you kind of can you kind of expect. I

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Speaker 3: know in one O, five to three, the fan that

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Speaker 3: we talk about it quite a bit. It seems like

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Speaker 3: a really sad day for people that follow this football team.

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Speaker 3: They see other teams spending money, uh, you know, picking

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Speaker 3: up players and all. But you know, this is the

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Speaker 3: one thing about this team. It it has a plan

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Speaker 3: for how they want to do things and how they

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Speaker 3: want to operate. As much as we all hate it,

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Speaker 3: you know, they they draft really really well. And we

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Speaker 3: keep talking about that in a way because I know

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Speaker 3: some teams in the league that have to keep spending

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Speaker 3: that's the reason why we have a show here, you know,

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Speaker 3: to talk about the draft. And but yeah, I can

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Speaker 3: understand the Cowboy fans frustration. I'm gonna be honest with

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Speaker 3: you, you know, I look at what the Commanders did yesterday

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Speaker 3: and other other than Frankie Louvo. I'm kind of like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: what did they do? You know, they seem like they

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Speaker 3: spent a lot of money. Yeah, the players, they got

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Speaker 3: a lot of Dallas Cowboy guys, replaceable players, and Cowboys

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Speaker 3: talked about drafting a center, you know, that's something you

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Speaker 3: they had to get better there, you know the edge rushers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they know they have to probably get better there. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is you know, you let guys go for a reason,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the Commanders they're picking up the pieces.

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Speaker 3: But like, I'm did they really get better? I think

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Speaker 3: they've added some nice pieces. I wouldn't say they got great.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Philadelphia Eagles adding Saquon Barkley. The only

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Speaker 3: hope that you got to think about if you're you know,

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey and all of a sudden he finds his health. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, and and all of a sudden, now he's

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Speaker 3: playing games at a very very high level, which he's

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Speaker 3: capable of. But that's a guy that they spend a

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Speaker 3: good portion of their cap on a player that has

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Speaker 3: an injury history. So I know it's frustrating for Cowboy fans,

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Speaker 3: and you know, focus on the draft, focus on these players,

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Speaker 3: and that's what we're gonna do here this week, try

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Speaker 3: and get you ready for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this draft only becomes more important.

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Speaker 5: I feel like they've been saying that ever since it

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Speaker 5: was ninety nine days and now what is it today,

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Speaker 5: forty three.

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Speaker 4: Days or whatever? Forty four? There you go.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you look at all these free agents departing.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have a fun draft show next year talking

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Speaker 5: about these compics. Yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna have

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Speaker 5: a really fun draft show next year.

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Speaker 4: But talk about bring them in? Yeah, happen. Talking about

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Speaker 5: I think it's something that's kind of popped in my

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Speaker 4: I think they are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they have to pick up an extra

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Speaker 3: I really like. And I talked to Dane Burglar about this,

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Speaker 3: and he had a mock draft where he traded back

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's at twenty seven, Buffalo's at twenty Wait, twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I want to believe the twenty eight. Okay, so you

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Speaker 3: go back the four spots. I'd do that, and then

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Speaker 3: I can say I always I always love the third

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Speaker 2: And there's no way that happens pre draft now, right

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Speaker 2: because you want to see what falls to you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you never want to trade away from a player

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Speaker 3: Don't ever And Jerry said this before, you would hate

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Speaker 5: And I don't think there's necessarily a situation where you

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Speaker 4: Two as well.

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Speaker 2: It just it puts a strain on the NFL draft

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Speaker 2: whenever it comes down to And we talked about this

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Speaker 2: There's now two glaring neats left tackle and center. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: when you look at the pieces that have left, which

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Speaker 2: one affects the draft process the most, well.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny we talk about Tyron Smith and

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Speaker 3: I think on a lot of people's boards that maybe

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Speaker 3: Tyron Smith was the best tackle out there. He didn't

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Speaker 4: He didn't neither did any other tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so now you're kind of wondering what people are

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Speaker 3: a better tackle if you know, I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: Tyron Smith. We all know who Tyron Smith is. I'm

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Speaker 3: Tyron Smith. And I'll tell you this reason why if

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Speaker 4: And look at the flip side of that.

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Speaker 5: Look at all the running backs that came off the

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Speaker 3: That's great, that's a great point because what I think

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Speaker 2: Go get one twenty four million for Pollard, twenty four

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Speaker 3: Good play.

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Speaker 2: All of these names were already expected to be free agents,

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Speaker 3: To Nick's point though, also it's about maybe about the

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Speaker 3: we'll get into it today. You know, there's some really

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Speaker 3: They're going to get the opportunity to get Draft.

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Speaker 2: Five ten, five eight, five eleven, And I mean marsh

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Speaker 2: By the way, do you do you feel like it's

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Speaker 2: They're not high level guys. Is that why these high

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: If you're looking at a team and your you see

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Speaker 5: Braylan Allen's ready to take that step and be that

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Speaker 5: Do you go do you just kind of let everything

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Speaker 3: Right, we've seen this before with the knee injuries with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so's it's what how do you kind of play

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Speaker 2: Kind of along those same lines, you're talking about pairing

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Speaker 5: I love Braylan Allen. I think it's a good fit

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Speaker 4: You did ask for the best fit.

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Speaker 3: Didn't you.

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Speaker 2: I did ask for bestfit.

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Speaker 4: I just love what Braylen Allen brings.

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Speaker 5: yardage situations. He is what you have not had. Bring

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I would lean towards if you the

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Speaker 3: I'd love to have Brooks, But the injury concerned, I

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Speaker 3: And I didn't and I'm sorry but I'm late to

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Speaker 3: Tony got better at it because there was some questions

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a handful of running backs that

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Speaker 4: I'm with him.

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Speaker 5: And then I've talked about Isaiah Davis on Day three

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Speaker 5: a lot. I still really love what he brings. I

435
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 5: think he's gonna make a day three pick look really smart.

436
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 2: I so, I'm shocked that you didn't say Bucky Irving.

437
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 4: I did say more weird?

438
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 2: Oh you did? Oh sorry, I must have missed it

439
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 2: uh audric estimate Notre Dame. We've talked about him a

440
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 2: couple times before. I think he's a good runner.

441
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,199
Speaker 3: I don't, Davis, I'm not okay with him too. I

442
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 3: agree on that. You don't guess, no, I don't.

443
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: Why not.

444
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of his I don't. To me,

445
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 3: I just don't see I see a guy that has power,

446
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 3: but I don't see any speed. And you saw that

447
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 3: at the combine with his time, he you know.

448
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: Seven to one.

449
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 3: That was one of the times when you're like thinking, okay,

450
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 3: he's in the blocks, you watch him take off and

451
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 3: then he ran the time he did. I'm like, that

452
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 3: makes sense. That makes sense to me. I mean, I

453
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: just I don't mean. One of my lines was I

454
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: don't see great long speed. I'll see him finish some runs.

455
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: I'll see him finish forward, I see him get positive yards.

456
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 3: I thought he was really straight line in the way.

457
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 3: I didn't think there was a lot of lateral agility

458
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 3: with his running. I thought it was that short, choppy

459
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: kind of steps. And I don't think he has much

460
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 3: quickness as a runner. And I worry about people getting

461
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Speaker 3: like all of a sudden if it's not blocked. Well,

462
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,719
Speaker 3: can he escape? Can he create? I don't see it

463
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: with him at all.

464
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Speaker 4: He's a jag for me, just a guy, just a

465
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 4: gas guy.

466
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Speaker 2: So where do you take him if if you're let's

467
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 2: say you miss it out on running backs late, do

468
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 2: you take him at all?

469
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Speaker 5: I have I have a fourth on him. Yeah, that's

470
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 5: exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, I have a fourth on him.

471
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 5: I think if he's sitting there in the I like

472
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Speaker 5: Isaiah Davis more than more than really, I really enjoy

473
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Speaker 5: Isaiah Davis. Man, I'm going to continue to hammer that

474
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Speaker 5: one home.

475
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Speaker 2: I think he's a fun Day three guy. I'm not

476
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: like the two of the Isaiah Davis hype.

477
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 4: Don't worry.

478
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's anybody like Will Shipley from Clemson. Yes, I mean,

479
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: is there anything limited? Limited?

480
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 5: I think, And I think his ceiling is going to

481
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 5: be very low here. But I think you understand what

482
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 5: you're getting whenever you pick him. But that's a guy

483
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Speaker 5: I think you bring in with a running back room

484
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 5: that already has a Barkley or already has a I can't.

485
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: I think I think this guy could be kind of

486
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 3: a mismatch player as a receiver and I'm not talking

487
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: about put him out. Why Yeah, but you know there's

488
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: there you watch it. He's had a ton of carries.

489
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: He has Clemson just they play old school football on

490
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: a phone booth there and they hand the ball to him.

491
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 3: And but there is some quickness to the game and

492
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: he kind of makes something out of nothing every once

493
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: in a while. And that's where when you see him

494
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: in space, the quickness to make tacklers miss on the move.

495
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: I love the way he catches the ball. I didn't

496
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 3: think he could run away for many defenders, but but

497
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: there is times where you see him be able to

498
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: separate and finish in that regard. So if you were looking,

499
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Speaker 3: you know, like day three, I kind of feel like

500
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: though that this guy is going to He's got the

501
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Speaker 3: frame to get tough yards and he's going to catch

502
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: the football and I think he's going to make plays

503
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: in the passing game that way. So that's why I

504
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: kind of I think you're going to have to have

505
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: another back with him. This guy's got the ability to

506
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: make some plays. So I kind of like that about him.

507
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 2: I had a high fifth on him for much of

508
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: the same reasons. I think he's going to be a

509
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: value pick in Day three. Just a guy that you

510
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: can bring in and he's going to contribute, make a roster,

511
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: and continue to give you some versatility as a backup.

512
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: Maybe not a featured back, but there's a couple guys

513
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: like that we're talking about when it comes to the Cowboys. Yes,

514
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: you want to find somebody that can create, but there

515
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: are a lot of really good complimentary backs in this

516
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: draft too. I think you can go up and down

517
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 2: the list of Frank Gore Junior from Southern miss as

518
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: somebody we haven't talked about a whole lot. Cody Schrader

519
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 2: from Missouri. I think that's what I tried to.

520
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: Bring I tried to bring him up and then yeah,

521
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: and he ran like four six, But he plays faster

522
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: than that. You watch. You watch him. They hand the

523
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: ball to him in Missouri does a good job offensively

524
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: with their scheme. But man, he is He is running

525
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: through arm tackles, he's finishing runs. He could catch the football.

526
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: I think there's an element of toughness to his game,

527
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 3: the way he finishes runs. I was I was trying

528
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: to kind of bring him up earlier, and you guys

529
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 3: give me the crickets on that one. But maybe.

530
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: I'm kind of out on Trader. He the only thing

531
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: that I don't I'm.

532
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: Gonna counter with you because I'm out of Blake Korum.

533
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's let's go ask this is a battle I

534
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 5: think here with Cody Schrader. I think he's really stiff.

535
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: I mean, he's stiff as a board. It's it. It

536
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 5: worries me where he can bring athleticism to the next level.

537
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 5: And I think you know there's it's a great story

538
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: former walk on at Missouri being tell.

539
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: Me the great story about the guy, which is what

540
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: this is known.

541
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 5: As exactly because he's a complimentary back. Okay, but I

542
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 5: think I put a fifth round on him. I'm not

543
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 5: huge on Cody Schrader. I think he has some flashes

544
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 5: at Missouri.

545
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

546
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: I think he had an awesome offensive line in front

547
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 5: of him as well. I'm I'm I'm not sold on

548
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 5: Cody Trader. I think you can get more athletic guys

549
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: even day three.

550
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: Oh No, I think you got him in the right round.

551
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 3: I just think you're not expecting him right.

552
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: That's what I thought whenever you were saying I'm out

553
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: on him seven.

554
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: I mean, there are guys who want to take him

555
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: second second day. I mean people in the.

556
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: Draft community like that's the third round.

557
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: I'm not there, no fifth round pick. I think is

558
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: fair for that?

559
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah to.

560
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: Me, like we're more on the same page than I thought,

561
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 5: even if he is there in the fifth round. I

562
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 5: like Isaac Garrindo more. I like talking about talk.

563
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: About Grindo then, because I'm with you on this one.

564
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, let's talk about a speed first. He won

565
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 5: four state championships in the state of Indiana and running

566
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 5: back they had Yeah in high school. He ran a

567
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 5: ten to five to one in high school one hundred meter,

568
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 5: which is blazing especially for his size.

569
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 4: Really productive at Louisville.

570
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 5: In his one year after transferring in from Washington or

571
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 5: excuse Wisconsin, where he had a lot of production there

572
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 5: in four years. Initially I thought he was more of

573
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 5: a complimentary guy. Yeah, but I think I think there's

574
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 5: some ability for him to be a feature back when

575
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 5: you look at his speed, what he can do in

576
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 5: the receiving game. He has sneaky downhill short yardage ability.

577
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: You're not despite that size, he has a knack for

578
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 5: being able.

579
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: To pick up those hard earned yards. The one thing

580
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: that worries me.

581
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 5: Is his injury history, hamstring injury list, frank injury but

582
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 5: six foot one, two hundred and twenty five pounds. I

583
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 5: think he can take those hits if he can stay healthy.

584
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be a really good back there.

585
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: On day three, man Nick had a good day on

586
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 3: one back, and he's just doing Blake Korum and all

587
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: these other backs in the He got this, got this

588
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: one right. He got this guy right.

589
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your brief with Blake Korm?

590
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what though. To me with with Blake,

591
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: I think he's going to have to I can't. I

592
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: don't see him as a as a featured guy. And

593
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: I know a Michigan I know what he did again

594
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 3: the five eight. You know, I kind of see what

595
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: and I know I'm kind of speaking out of both

596
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: sides of my mouth on that one though. But man,

597
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of carries. I don't see that

598
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: burst and speed and that with this guy. I worry

599
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: about him just getting and completely wore down, trying to

600
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: run inside, trying to run inside, trying to run I don't,

601
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: you know, and I don't know if he doesn't have that,

602
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: you know that I think there's ways that you could

603
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: see him run the ball and he'll throw off the

604
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: fenders by his running style. But man, I just worry about,

605
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: you know, how much yards can he really really create

606
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: on his own? That's my biggest concern with him. I

607
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: think he's got some quickness. I do think he's got

608
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: some ability to make those jump cuts, power in the

609
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 3: red zone, short yarded stuff, But I just worry about

610
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: how many carries he's taken and at his size, at

611
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: his height, put it that way, you know that that

612
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: would not I just didn't see him as a featured guy,

613
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: but I could see if you split him with somebody.

614
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: I feel like you're right, he could be productive in

615
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: that way.

616
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: He's going to take some hits because he's a good

617
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: pass protector too. Yeah, so he's going to take some

618
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 5: hits in the past game as well.

619
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: But I still like a fire hydrant. Yeah, I mean,

620
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: he really is.

621
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 5: There's I think there's an opportunity for him to be

622
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 5: able to be reliable downhill. But how that's a good

623
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 5: point over a seventeen game season. How much can you

624
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 5: take there?

625
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

626
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 5: I think something very fun about him. We were able

627
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 5: to get an interview with him a few weeks ago

628
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 5: when he was here for the Jason Whitten Award ceremony.

629
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 5: You know who his favorite running back was growing up,

630
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 5: Marion Barber.

631
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: Oh geez, another big ten guy.

632
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So you can kind of see that a little.

633
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 5: Bit with him because I got a little ton of

634
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 5: a barbarians a little bit. Yeah, but I think he

635
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 5: could be a power runner despite his size. But I

636
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 5: think it's a very good point that you bring up

637
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: how much of that can he take? Because you look

638
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 5: at I've compared him so much to Kien Williams over

639
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 5: the course of this draft process, and you see what

640
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: Kyen Williams had to deal with last year with injury,

641
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 5: and he was on the ir there for a little bit,

642
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 5: still was able to make an All Rookie team. But

643
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: you have to factor that in whenever you're looking at

644
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: a guy that's five foot eight, because how many five

645
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 5: foot eight guys are taking those hits year after year

646
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: after year.

647
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: These five eight guys were trying to evaluate and like

648
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: I say, Quorum, Ray Davis, yep, you know are usc

649
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: running back. I mean, if you gave me a choice

650
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: of the shorter running back kind of guy, I'm taking

651
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: our guy at USC. I'm just Marshon Lloyd. Yeah, I

652
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 3: just you know, I'm kind of They're all like in

653
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Speaker 3: that two hundred and ten to two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: pound range, and they're all really good backs. But I

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Speaker 3: just I worry, I just I need. I just think

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Speaker 3: in this day and age, you have to be able

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Speaker 3: to consistently make people miss. And I wonder with Blake

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Speaker 3: korm has he had so many carries? Can he make

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Speaker 3: people always miss?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: It's it's interesting because you brought this up in the

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Speaker 2: in the either or the would you Rather?

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Speaker 3: Would you rather?

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Speaker 2: Last week it was it was Koram versus Ray Davis.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I went back and looked at it and it's these

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Speaker 2: two guys are at the top of the list. So

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Speaker 2: it's not like it's a huge discrepancy. Ray Davis had

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Speaker 2: six hundred more colleagues.

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Speaker 3: There's no carry. I mean, there's no no, I mean no, no. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right, you're absolutely right. See that's the thing about

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Speaker 3: it is those guys when you start to talk about yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean when you and you're that you're that high,

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Speaker 3: can how much more can you take? And there's some

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Speaker 3: people that will tell you Brian, take a running back.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna sound terrible. Take a running back, use him

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Speaker 3: up and get another one. Yeah, you know, And there's

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Speaker 3: people that subscribe to that subscribe to that theory. So

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Speaker 3: I I could see I could see Blake Korm going somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I could see him being super productive. I could see

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Speaker 3: him well circling back of the Draft show and you know,

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Speaker 3: and me going to Nick, Hey, you're right about that guy.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, we do another Draft show two

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Speaker 3: years from now, and like, well, they're replacing Blake Korum here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, but that's how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it goes. But either way, we started

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Speaker 2: this conversation talking about cowboys running back fits. You need

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Speaker 2: somebody that can create they. I don't think Davis or

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Speaker 2: Koram are in that.

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Speaker 3: List now for me. For me, I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: Nick has a different opinion of Korum than I do,

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Speaker 3: which is cool. I mean, I think there's something okay there,

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Speaker 3: you go. See, there's I just worry I just worry about.

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Speaker 3: Like I say, I look at I look at Lloyd,

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Speaker 3: and I see that, you know, I see that darting

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Speaker 3: I said, I just this is, this is I think

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys have got some choices here, and you know what,

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Speaker 3: I'm not disappointed in the choices they have. And we

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Speaker 3: didn't even bring up Dylan Johnson from Washington. Now I's

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Speaker 3: dealing with a foot injury and all that. And me

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Speaker 3: he ran at the combine. He didn't run a great time,

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Speaker 3: but you watch him the last three seasons, so at

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Speaker 3: you know, chief transfers from Mississippi State, Washington. This guy

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Speaker 3: he's got some he's got some ability to him as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's he's I think he's elusive enough, but

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it his overall straight. But there's some quality.

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Speaker 4: Backs in this draft, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And it could end up that one of them has

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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show.

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Speaker 2: Back here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show,

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Speaker 2: Nick Harris Brian brought us some Kyle yeomens. It's time

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Speaker 2: now for Chris Beam to hit the button because it's

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Speaker 2: Twitter on twenty There are a lot of great questions today.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Nation is frustrated, no doubt about it, the inaction

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Speaker 2: and day one of the legally tampering or legal tampering

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Speaker 2: period in the NFL. Garrett wants to ask what would

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys' best option be at center if they don't

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Speaker 2: end up getting lucky and drafting at Jackson Powers Johnson

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Speaker 2: getting a center on day two, or trying to sift

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Speaker 2: through the free agency market and find a center from there.

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Speaker 2: I'll let Nick Harris start this one out.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'll give you three options there.

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Speaker 5: If Jackson Powers Johnson is not available there at twenty four,

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Speaker 5: which I do not expect him to be, you have

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Speaker 5: the option of taking Graham Barton, And that's a situation

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Speaker 5: where you could probably trade back a few spots and

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Speaker 5: still pick up Graham Barton there at twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Twenty eight or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Pick up that ninety ninth pick Brian was there, you go.

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Speaker 5: And if if Graham Barton's not there in the first round,

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Speaker 5: then you have potentially Zach Fraser there at fifty six.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's there at fifty six.

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Speaker 3: Would that be another trade back situation for you, though.

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Speaker 4: It could be.

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Speaker 5: I think you'd still be swinging on him a little early.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, if you're here, if you're there to

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Speaker 5: pick up an extra pick and you're comfortable, Zach Fraser,

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Speaker 5: do it. I'm a firm believer. And if you like

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Speaker 5: the player, take him.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: It brings toughness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And if you don't end up with any three of

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Speaker 5: those guys somehow, if they fall through your fall through

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Speaker 5: your hands, or you're going for the tackle in the

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Speaker 5: first round. Dallas has shown a lot of interest in

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Speaker 5: Cedric van Prand Granger out of Georgia. So that's a

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Speaker 5: guy you could probably look at there in the third round.

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Speaker 5: You talk about instincts IQ physicality, I think that you

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Speaker 5: get that with Cedric van Pram Granger. The thing that

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Speaker 5: you're going to be worried about early on. He's still

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Speaker 5: very raw. He's a developmental project.

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Speaker 3: I think two hundred ninety eight pounds, right, is any

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Speaker 3: weighed at the combine?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So starting him early on, you're really going to

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Speaker 5: be able to You're gonna have to put some weight

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Speaker 5: on him.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to throw some technique with him a

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Speaker 4: little bit.

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Speaker 5: You He might struggle year one, but I think down

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Speaker 5: the line he could, uh, he could be a better

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Speaker 5: player for you.

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Speaker 3: I like Limber from Arkansas, Yeah, would be another guy.

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Speaker 3: And we talked about Bordolini as well from Wisconsin. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like though that there's options second

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Speaker 3: round options potentially the Van Pram and the third uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, Limber, Bordeline. I kind of see them as

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Speaker 3: fourth round guys. So I think that you can you

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Speaker 3: can grab one of these sinners. This this is not

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Speaker 3: a bad crew. And I haven't looked at the Penn

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Speaker 3: State kid yet.

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Speaker 4: Hunter Nors I was just about to bring him up

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Speaker 4: before you got done the.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is he going to be better than Van Pram

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Speaker 3: in the third? Is he going to be better than Limber?

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Speaker 3: Do you have a I mean, if you had to.

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Speaker 5: So he's going day three, okay, and in which case,

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Speaker 5: if you can, if he's there in the fifth or he's.

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Speaker 3: There, Okay, so he's that type of player, then.

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Speaker 5: I think, I think you're gonna get an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: be able to hit on on nors Ed.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I really liked him at the Shrine Bowl.

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Speaker 3: There's there's there's like two or three other centers that

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Speaker 3: I need to look at. And it's the same thing

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Speaker 3: when I did with Lloyd very late to the party here,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I'm like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: I like Lloyd better than you know, some other guys

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Speaker 3: that I kind of had there in that that third

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Speaker 3: round area. So yeah, center's available throughout.

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Speaker 2: Kind of along the same lines, Alex asked the question,

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Speaker 2: with the amount of offensive lineman signing so quickly in

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Speaker 2: this tampering period or agreeing terms so quickly, does that

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Speaker 2: help Dallas have one of those tackles or one of

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Speaker 2: the offensive linemen like a Jackson powers Johnson possibly slide

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Speaker 2: to twenty four that would have gone higher to some

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Speaker 2: of these teams ahead of the pack.

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Speaker 3: The one, the one that was me, for instance, was

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Speaker 3: the center. I think the Dolphins signed a center that

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Speaker 3: made you know or you know that that to me

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Speaker 3: was kind of one of those like, okay, that knocked

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Speaker 3: them out. You know, now Aaron.

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Speaker 2: Brewer, they signed it for three years, twenty one mill Philly.

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Speaker 3: Now Philly's got to sign Philly. Might Plug could play

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Speaker 3: one of their current guys. I think that would take

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Speaker 3: him out of the market. Pittsburgh, right, another team that

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Speaker 3: could potentially use a center. So yeah, I'm I'm yeah,

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Speaker 3: let all these teams grab centers and let me have

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Speaker 3: a crack at one of these other guys if I can. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I kind of make the joke yesterday on Twitter, but

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Speaker 5: jokes don't really hit on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a good time to joke or whatever Twitter.

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Speaker 5: But I made the joke. I was like, oh, Miami

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Speaker 5: got their center. That's one less team that's going to

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Speaker 5: be picking in front of the Cowboys that could take

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Speaker 5: Jackson power Johnson. That's the best news all day. And

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Speaker 5: everyone was like, oh, you're stupid. He's still gonna get

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Speaker 5: drafted by Pittsburgh.

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00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: There all right, man?

871
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tweeted out today. I was like, let's talk

872
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: about the action and in action about the Cowboys free agency,

873
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: which is a fact. It's been action and in action.

874
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: They're like, well, what action have they take? I'm like,

875
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: that's that's part of the book of the Draft show.

876
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: That's how it goes. All right, let's go down to

877
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: Cam says he wants to give get your opinion on

878
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: two scenarios. Option A, and we kind of talked about

879
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: this a little bit. Trade back with Kansas City. The

880
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs thirty two overall after winning the Super

881
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 2: Bowl yet again. Yep, they give you thirty two ninety

882
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: five and one thirty two for pick twenty four. So

883
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: you pick up two extra picks, yes, a third round

884
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: pick and a fourth round pick, and you draft either

885
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: Zach Frasier West Virginia or Morgan the offensive tackle from Arizona,

886
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: and go from there.

887
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 5: The offensive guard from Arizona. Go ahead, well, is that

888
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: the offensive guard.

889
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: From Arizona's playing with guard?

890
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: You think so?

891
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. His arms are too short, Warriors,

892
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: miilli is.

893
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: Pretty short or his arms are short. Option B. Draft

894
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle Fatanu at twenty four, who falls in

895
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: a bit of a scenario linebacker Junior Colston out of

896
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: Michigan at fifty six, and you take Jalen Right out

897
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: of Tennessee at eighty seven. You stay put, but you

898
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: have three scenarios where guys fall to you that probably

899
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: shouldn't be there.

900
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: I don't think right gets to you at eighty seven.

901
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: That's part of the scenario here. This is a this

902
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: is a lucky scenario, or you're picking up draft capital.

903
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm taking that first one. I'm taking that first scenario.

904
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: I'm drafting Zach Fraser there at thirty two and picking

905
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: up two extra picks on day two. Yeah, I'm taking that,

906
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 5: and you can you can work those picks around and

907
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 5: still probably end up with a junior Colson or a

908
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 5: Jalen Ryder or whatever because you have those two extra picks.

909
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 5: I'm I'm taking that ten times out of ten, especially

910
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 5: given this free agency outplay.

911
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got see what would what would the

912
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: hall on it?

913
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: By the way, I got ninety five, I gotta scroll

914
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: back up to Yeah, okay, and you keep thirty two

915
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: and you draft either Morgan or Fraser.

916
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: I wonder if we did the math on that how

917
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: that works. Sometimes if it's like a massive overpay that

918
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: teams wouldn't consider it, you know, but I would be

919
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 3: interested to see. I need to pull out my chart

920
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: and do that one to see if if that's a

921
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: massive overpay for for Kansas City.

922
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: I'll bring up the chart.

923
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: Bring it up until give me the numbers on it.

924
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: Me why you're doing that.

925
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: Derek Henry has signed with the Baltimore Ravens, So thats

926
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: another one off the board.

927
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: Not that he was going to end up in the Cowboy,

928
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: now that was it. They offered him like nine million dollars.

929
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: I think that was what that was going to be.

930
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: So you have it. You have a somewhat of a

931
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: chart that we can so as you're looking at.

932
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 2: It, seven hundred and forty is what twenty four is worth?

933
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: Okay? So so it's.

934
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: Seven forty Yep, they gave you one twenty with the

935
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: pick number ninety five.

936
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: What's what's the difference between twenty four and thirty two? Uh?

937
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: That is I'm bad at quick math. One hundred and

938
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: fifty points, so they got to make up one hundred

939
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: and they've got to make up one hundred fifty points.

940
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: Okay, give me the price for pick ninety five, please

941
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: one Okay, give me the price for that one thirty.

942
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: Whatever you were doing with it will be.

943
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: The early fifth round forty So it's one sixty. So

944
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: they're they're overpaying, like a tiny.

945
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 9: Bit, you know.

946
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: Okay, now it's one sixty in.

947
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: Your you're making up from one to fifty.

948
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll give one of those fifth round compics next year.

949
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, I think to me, okay, now

950
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: that makes sense. Now that's a little bit of an

951
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: over that's it's a little bit of overpaid. But it's

952
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: not it's something it's the price of price of doing business.

953
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: So but what you got to think about though, too.

954
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: And you know, and that's okay because again that that

955
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: that pick ninety five that ends, that's right at the

956
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: end of day the day of day two. And so

957
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: now you're you're in that situation where you know, you uh,

958
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: you're kind of like, okay, we can sleep on our board.

959
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: Now we come back around and you know, we've got

960
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: Kansas's pick again at what one thirty two? Is what

961
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: you said, I'm all about this that if that's if

962
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: that's if that's what you want to do, then then

963
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: that's that seems like to me a very reasonable trade

964
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: to make. If you, in fact, you want to move

965
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: back to thirty to thirty two and you have one

966
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 3: of these centers of mine or your guard, hey, would

967
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: you guys consider drafting JC Latham from Alabama and make

968
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: and making them a guard.

969
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: Yes, that's an interesting one.

970
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: I mean, and if you drafted him, because again I

971
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: was talking to some guys around the league. They don't

972
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: think he could be a left tackle, but they feel

973
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: like that he could be an all pro guard. So

974
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: would you draft him, put him in that spot left

975
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: guard and kick Tyler Smith?

976
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 5: And you know what I'm going to say here, I

977
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 5: think with Jason, if you're looking at JC Latham and

978
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith under that same umbrella, I think you see

979
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: better potential for JC Latham at tackle and Tyler Smith

980
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 5: there at guard.

981
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: But I think if you.

982
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 5: Were in any other franchise you had a hole there

983
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: at guard that you needed to fill. That makes sense

984
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: for JAC Latham, I think because he has that short,

985
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 5: quick physicality and quick punch right there. I did note

986
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 5: that with him, I think he can take on some bigger,

987
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: wider guys as well.

988
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: Well.

989
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: I want to backtrack the way you just said, so

990
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: you said Tyler Smith doesn't have the same ceiling that

991
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: Jac Latham has in that in those respected positions of tackle.

992
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Do you feel like Tyler Smith can't play tackle?

993
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: No at all?

994
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: Maybe I can't play tackle, but you feel like he's

995
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: better suited at guard.

996
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, okay, absolutely.

997
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: So taking there by the way, they're green with you

998
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: right now.

999
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: With with taking Arizona's Morgan, like you talked about putting

1000
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: him at guard, doesn't.

1001
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm not taking him, Yeah, Unfortunately you would rather.

1002
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: Take a funny tackle and put him to the left.

1003
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 5: And Tielich we talked on the first episode here after

1004
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: the combine, Hey, who are you taking a twenty four?

1005
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 5: And I said Jordan Morgan, And like the next day

1006
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 5: I immediately regretted it because I started looking more Jordan Morgan,

1007
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: started focusing in on him a little bit more because

1008
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: I was like, man, this guy makes sense. And the

1009
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: more I watch and the more I go back, this

1010
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 5: guy's guard. So I don't think that would be I

1011
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: don't think.

1012
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: Man, I think I do. I think for I think

1013
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: he can play tackle. I just do I see like

1014
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: a guy I see like got to. I see a guy,

1015
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: a big guy with like kneebin and flexibility and with

1016
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: and I don't know, I mean, maybe you're onto something.

1017
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: The short arms are concerning to a slight degree, but

1018
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: it's not like it's gonna affect him. It didn't affect

1019
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 2: him at Arizona.

1020
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: He was named but he carries his hands low and

1021
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 3: still gets him up inside. Yeah, and that's I don't know.

1022
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I just to me, I I have more

1023
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: problems with other guys than I do him. Like Memes.

1024
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: I have problems with mems and him not playing a

1025
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: lot of games, and everybody loves Memes. I don't hate Memes.

1026
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm just scared to death. I'm looking at eight games. Yeah,

1027
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: you know, that's the only thing I'm I'm I'm really

1028
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: nervous about with him.

1029
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1030
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: Next question goes to the wide receiver position. Then we're

1031
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: going to take our second break. Xavier Leget from South Carolina.

1032
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: Hector wants to know if he's a possible Day two option.

1033
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: Could he play the X, allowing Ceede Lamb to play

1034
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: in the slot more frequently.

1035
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: Outside Theoretically, But I think if you're if you're taking

1036
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: Xavier lo Get, you're taking him with the idea of

1037
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 5: him being an offensive weapon that you can line up anywhere.

1038
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 5: I'm talking outside, inside, out of the backfield specifically.

1039
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: Still fits with the Lamb too, though, yeah, absolute, yeah,

1040
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: that makes interchangeable.

1041
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: I think he's asking like just throw him at the

1042
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: X and leave him there.

1043
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1044
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm not. He's He's a versatile weapon that I want

1045
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 4: to be a to move around.

1046
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: They they figured out that South Carolina that multiple use

1047
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: wide receiver, they Deebo sand or South Carolina guy. I

1048
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: mean the same thing with this Legett. Why do I

1049
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 3: have five wide receivers that I would take over leget Yeah.

1050
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 4: I'm the same way. Yeah, there's probably six or seven

1051
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: for me.

1052
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: See, I mean I don't see. I mean you start

1053
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: to talk about day, like, are they talking about a

1054
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: second round grade on this guy?

1055
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I would put a third on him.

1056
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 3: I mean I have him in the third myself. But

1057
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 3: I was wondering if so I would be second or third,

1058
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I was wondering if he was

1059
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: thinking a second round grade on this guy.

1060
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: I bet you it's more so a third because if

1061
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: even if you're looking at best player available, it's going

1062
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: to best player available with a little bit of need

1063
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: kind of sprinkled in there, which is going to be

1064
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: offensive line, running back, linebacker in.

1065
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 3: Those first guys, tell me where they where?

1066
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: You have McConkey from Georgia I have him in the

1067
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: second second. He's wide receiver seven for me, I'm higher

1068
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: on him. Okay, I've gotten his wide receiver eight. Okay,

1069
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: the have a you have you stack anywhere.

1070
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: I don't have them completely ranked yet, but he would

1071
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 5: probably end up falling in that eight to ten range.

1072
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 2: How many first round grades you have a wide receiver four?

1073
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: I have five, so I've got I've got Harrison, neighbors

1074
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: A Dounza, Franklin, Brian Thomas Junior.

1075
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: Those are my five brunt of those again.

1076
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, Junior, Ohio State, Malik Neighbors, LSU, Romea Dunze

1077
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: from Washington, Troy Franklin, Oregon, Brian Thomas Junior from LSU.

1078
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: And I might be way way wrong about Franklin.

1079
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 2: You don't like Franklin.

1080
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan. Wow, why is that fan?

1081
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: We were just talking about him upstairs?

1082
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: Will you were? You? You got? Tell me what you

1083
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: guys got on this guy. I'm interested to hear what

1084
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: you would would say about this Franklin player.

1085
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: Six foot two, four four one speed. I mean that's

1086
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: one two punch that I really like. I think he's

1087
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: a mismatched nightmare brings the ability to play outside. He

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00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: can play inside. He brings threats, a deep game, he's

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00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: got deep ball ability. Sure, he wins at the line

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00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. He's not super physical, even though he does

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00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: have that six foot one frame, But I think he

1092
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 2: does what he can as a blocker. I think most

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00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: of it is because he's only one hundred and eighty

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00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: five pounds, like he's pretty thin.

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00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: He's one hundred six. Yeah, he's he's six two. He's

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Speaker 3: won seventy six that's what he was at the combat,

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00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: So one seventy six.

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00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: Wiry guy. But I think the NFL is shown recently wirey,

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00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: tall wide receivers can have success. To Rot Smith, this

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00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: guy's not DeVante Smith, but he was used in a

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00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: similar way in that Oregon offense. And I see a

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00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: playmaker ability with some size. If you can put a

1103
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: little bit of weight on him, then all of a sudden,

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00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: I think he's a game changer at the next line.

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00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: I'm talking about a guy you would have to compare

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00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 5: with Xavier Worthy, and I'm taking Worthy over Franklin ten times.

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00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: As a whole. Yeah, I don't think. I think Franklin's

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00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 2: a more complete receiver than Worthy. Worthy, speed, sure, great

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00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: love it. If you can utilize it, that's fine. Tyreek

1110
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: Hill was that way. But I I see Troy Franklin

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00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: as a more complete receiver than do you think.

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00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: There's not a route running to exa worthy? Because I can,

1113
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: I can.

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00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he's a technician. I

1115
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: don't think he's a bad route runner, though. I think

1116
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: Troy Franklin's a technician. And I think he can use

1117
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: him in the screen game. I think he can use

1118
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: him in bubbles and sweeps and all sorts of stuff.

1119
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: He can carry the football and he's he can run

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Speaker 2: through contact.

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00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: I think his speed is his most redeeming quality. And

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00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: I and I kind of like our guy from Tennessee

1123
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 3: last year, that just Jalen Hyatt, that just ran by people.

1124
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: I kind of see some similarities in that, and I

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00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: get it. This guy he's It's amazing the number of

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00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: deep ball plays this guy makes. And I wonder though

1127
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 3: about I wonder about that because I did see some

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00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: snaps where people play him in the press and that

1129
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: he had a struggle sure getting off that. And I

1130
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: wonder if with it being the frame, if the one

1131
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 3: seventy six, is he gonna. But this cat can flat run.

1132
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he showed you that. And he can run

1133
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: by people. That's another thing. But I just I had

1134
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: I think I would go. And the thing about Worthy

1135
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: is damn Worthy ain't much bigger. You know when you

1136
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: look wait Wise, I mean worthies in if you if

1137
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: you look at the combine measurements and stuff like that

1138
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: with Worthy, Worthy was one sixty five, one sixty five,

1139
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: five eleven, one sixty five is what he was. And

1140
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: so man, I mean.

1141
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: That ball earth in frank he is smaller.

1142
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 3: And but you know there's I say, my son told

1143
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: me this. My son gets to Texas, he goes Daddy's

1144
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley with speed is what he is. And I'm like, oh, okay,

1145
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: but look at this on the film money tracking the

1146
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: ball and stuff like that.

1147
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: Both of these guys can track the football.

1148
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Though we're talking about one hundred

1149
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: and sixty five and one hundred and seventy two is

1150
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: what we're talking about right now.

1151
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: And so he stepped in the bucket there. He just

1152
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: he wasted three steps right there on that route. I'll

1153
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: count it one two three Bay Bank. You know a

1154
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: good route running I don't think he's perfect.

1155
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: Show me the post corner that he had against Oklahoma State. Yeah,

1156
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: that's let me.

1157
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. So how do you feel

1158
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: about bo Nix? A quarterback? And over again? How do

1159
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: you feel about him?

1160
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 5: Just as very he was complimented by his weapons around him?

1161
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, being let somebody else draft him kind of

1162
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: a thing.

1163
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Troy Franklin's a bad receiver. I'm not

1164
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 4: saying that at all.

1165
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: But how do you feel about Quinn Ewers at Texas?

1166
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: I know he's not a twenty four draft prospect.

1167
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think with another year of development and confidence

1168
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 5: he could he will be talking about him in the

1169
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 5: top ten.

1170
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 2: Next year exactly. So I just think there's a utilization

1171
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: problem Troy Franklin.

1172
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: Franklin's bad. I just I worry, Like when I saw

1173
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: people press him, I worried about that. But I mean

1174
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: people are going to They're probably going to be nervous

1175
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: about his speed because he does run by people. But

1176
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: to me, the way I would play him as I

1177
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: would walk up on him and make him trying to

1178
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: skip physical with him, Yeah, because that he if you

1179
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: give him free access to the route he is going

1180
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: to murder you. Yeah, you know. So that's kind of

1181
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 3: where I'm at with Franklin there.

1182
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 2: I like this, A little debate of speed, A little

1183
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: speed debate between wide receivers. All right, I got.

1184
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: Worthy higher, by the way. Yeah, where do you have?

1185
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: Just curious?

1186
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: Second round?

1187
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: Second?

1188
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: Second?

1189
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine.

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00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: I think you'll end up going first. But I have

1191
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: a second round grade on.

1192
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: I have Worthy in the second two, but sixty five

1193
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: Franklin in the first. All right, we'll be back with

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Speaker 2: a couple more Twitter on the twenty questions we want

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Speaker 2: to ask before getting out of here. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to rebuilding for the future, and by rebuilding I mean

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Speaker 2: building for the future.

1257
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Speaker 3: They might be rebuilding. We just don't know it.

1258
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Speaker 2: If we made no no, they just.

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Speaker 3: They don't say it. But they might be rebuilding.

1260
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's answer that question. Jay Poole says, do

1261
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Speaker 2: you think the Cowboys are rebuilding for next year by

1262
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Speaker 2: letting Dak play out his contract in his current cap hit,

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Speaker 2: re signing Lamb and Parsons next year and building around

1264
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Speaker 2: that and then getting rid of the current contracts and

1265
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Speaker 2: the veterans that are on the roster at the moment

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Speaker 2: to start fresh in twenty twenty five with a legitimate

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Speaker 2: amount of cap space.

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Speaker 4: Ran.

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Speaker 3: Now you live in the building. I'll say this, though,

1270
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Speaker 3: I think the rebuilding without telling us the rebuilding, I

1271
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Speaker 3: really do. And I don't think the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: cap is going to be anything great. No, it's but

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Speaker 3: you know, they've got a lot of a lot of things,

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Speaker 3: and you know they understand what Thurpe gets. I'll tell

1275
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Speaker 3: you the biggest problem that happened for the Cowboys, all

1276
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Speaker 3: these contracts came up at the same time. They couldn't

1277
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Speaker 3: stagger these contracts. That's a big issue right now for

1278
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 3: them that they're dealing with. But yeah, this Gavin Dawson

1279
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Speaker 3: on one five three the Fan yesterday on our show

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Speaker 3: The g Bag Nation, he asked that question are they rebuilding?

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00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: And we all kind of pause for a minute and said,

1282
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: kind of feels like that, and it looks like it, huh,

1283
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 3: kind of feels like that right now.

1284
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Speaker 5: I don't think there's a conscious decision going on that

1285
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 5: they are rebuilding in twenty twenty four. I think there's

1286
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 5: an opportunity. It's not as great as it was in

1287
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, but there's an opportunity to still put

1288
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 5: a really good team on the field. Hopefully you hit

1289
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 5: on a couple of draft picks they're able to contribute

1290
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Speaker 5: to Marvin Overshoe comes back, makes a big.

1291
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Speaker 4: Impact, gets better.

1292
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Scoomaker exactly, and you're able to guys all around,

1293
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 5: and you're able to develop, and hopefully at some point

1294
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: by the time you get to January, you have a

1295
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 5: better situation than you did in that Green Bay game. Right,

1296
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 5: that's probably the hope. But coming out of that, coming

1297
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 5: out of twenty twenty four, I think there might be

1298
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 5: a conscious decision as far as, Okay, we're looking at

1299
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Speaker 5: that if this doesn't work in twenty four, we're looking

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 5: at that to rebuild, Yeah, because that's that's your earliest

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00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 5: opportunity to do it. I don't think there's a need

1302
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 5: to do it right now because of everything that you

1303
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 5: have coming up with the next year, contract wise, on

1304
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 5: field wise, coach wise. But there's an opportunity to do

1305
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 5: that in twenty twenty five if you don't like the

1306
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 5: product that you see. So I don't think there's an

1307
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 5: opportunity to excuse me, I don't think there's a decision

1308
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 5: to rebuild right now. You still have a really good

1309
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 5: product that has won twelve games three consecutive seasons that

1310
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: you can throw on the field and probably end up

1311
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 5: with a ten win season and make the playoffs next year.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we'll see. We'll see from there.

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: You make the tournament, see what goes.

1314
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think once you get to round exit,

1315
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 5: yeah exactly. But what I think once you get to

1316
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, you look around the room, you see

1317
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 5: what's happened in the last four seasons. At that point, yeah,

1318
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 5: be like, okay, things you've got to change around here.

1319
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: I think that's a reality that Cowboys fans are maybe

1320
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: not struggling to accept, but just haven't necessarily accepted yet.

1321
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: Is Yes, this this is a team that they thought

1322
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: was good enough to get it done in twenty twenty three.

1323
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

1324
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: It lost in the first round, got blown out by

1325
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 2: the Packers, and it didn't necessarily work out. But there's

1326
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: there's one last opportunity to at least give it a shot,

1327
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: give it a try, and if it doesn't work out,

1328
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: then you start all the way from from scrap.

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00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, we're gonna have a fun time

1330
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 5: on this show now, Draft Blast, we're gonna have a

1331
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 5: good time cop picks rebuild.

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: But even even with that, yeah, maybe a top five pick.

1333
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: With all of that being said, if you hit on

1334
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: your draft picks this year, it extends your window, but.

1335
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: I think they're looking at it. I don't think this

1336
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: team will ever be bad as long as they let

1337
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: them draft. Yeah, I think they will always figure out

1338
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: a way. And I know last year wasn't. We'll see

1339
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: what happens. But I always feel like that this team

1340
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: is in the ballpark when it comes to drafting, or

1341
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: they always they always have a chance. They let them

1342
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: add five to six players, they're gonna probably find three

1343
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: or four of those guys that can play. They didn't

1344
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: last year, but they have a pretty good history of

1345
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: doing it.

1346
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the window.

1347
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 5: The window is closed, but it's it's unlocked from the inside,

1348
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 5: and you're locked out of your house, and you need

1349
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 5: to get like a like a be's what the draft

1350
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 5: to do to get the window up so you can

1351
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 5: get back to your house. That's the draft. The draft

1352
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 5: is whatever you use to get in. But I think

1353
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 5: it's twenty twenty five. It's locked from the inside and

1354
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 5: you're gonna to break that window to get through the house.

1355
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: It could be Yeah, look at all this, Look at

1356
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: all the imagery that we're using to finish up the

1357
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: draft show today. I think you're right. I really do

1358
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: it and maybe it is. It's a slow it's a

1359
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: it's a partial rebuild at the moment. Maybe it's a

1360
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: not a conscious one, but it's one that you can

1361
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: maybe see in the future if you hit on your

1362
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: draft picks though, which they will if they listen to

1363
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: the Draft Show, they'll hit on their draft picks. But

1364
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: if they hit on the draft picks, then maybe you

1365
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: get an opportunity.

1366
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: I think Nick's right about his assessment though about this

1367
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 3: team looking for next year though too.

1368
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it goes. Yeah, all right, that does

1369
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: it for us today here on the Draft Show. We'll

1370
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: be back on Thursday. I think both Brian and out

1371
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: and I are both out on.

1372
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: Thursday, so I'm sorry about that.

1373
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: It'll be a different, different look Thursday, the last.

1374
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: Time until the draft. I'm not missing any more damn days,

1375
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: trust me.

1376
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: I won't promise that one. I've got paternity leave at

1377
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: some point, at some point it will be here. But uh,

1378
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: but yeah, we'll be back Thursday, eleven am Central to

1379
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: talk it through really if there has been a move

1380
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: between now and then, how it affects things. And also

1381
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 2: look at this NFL draft for Nick Harris for Brian

1382
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: brought us Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yoman

1383
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: saying so long, We'll see you next third or coming

1384
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: up on Thursday with more of the Draft Show.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and

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