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Speaker 1: and welcome to the Monday Morning Podcast. Tyler Dunn, founder

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Speaker 1: Before we get to that, my thoughts on what I

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Speaker 1: saw this weekend. First of all, the Rams forty nine

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Speaker 1: the Raven Steelers of ten years ago. The difference is

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Speaker 1: I think it's a smarter game. Offensively, You've got two

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Speaker 1: really good quarterbacks. Back then it was Flacco and Big

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Speaker 1: Bend now at Stafford and Jimmy G. And believe it

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Speaker 1: all the time about Jimmy G. He's the opposite of

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousin shrinks in primetime. Kirk Cousin shrinks

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Speaker 1: in the two minute drill. Kirk Cousins is not a

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Speaker 1: guy I ever trust in the biggest spot against the

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Speaker 1: best team. Jimmy Garoppolo's the opposite. He'll flail in the

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Speaker 1: in a big game when it matters. He's really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people point to the Super Bowl. He led

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Speaker 1: Mahomes for three quarters. Yes, he missed on a deep throw, folks,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan miss free throws like these are pro athletes

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Speaker 1: You got two of the smartest, if not the smartest

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches in football. Both teams can be physical. The Niners,

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Speaker 1: You can push the Rams offensive front around. It's a

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of miles on those tackles. They've

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Speaker 1: often in big games, I feel like they get pushed back. Now,

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Speaker 1: that is emblematic of playoff teams. It's like, am I

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, the GM of the Coal They missed out

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Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn, founder of Golong the newsletter, a great source

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Speaker 1: for all things Green Bay, all things NFC North, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL sources. So let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: That hub arkish Aaron Rodgers situation. What's funny about it?

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Speaker 1: cap gymnastics to try to make it contender that COVID deer.

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Speaker 1: They dragged it into twenty twenty one. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and you need a coach. I guess who can beat

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Speaker 1: Green Bay? I mean you need that. That's the team

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Speaker 1: is still in your way. I think yourself to operate

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Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers is going to be there for a

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Speaker 1: while and they're right back to where they really have

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Speaker 1: always been since oh eight or nine. Matt Naggie out um.

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Speaker 1: I don't think either one of us is surprised. You

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Speaker 1: and Justin Fields. It's rough. That's why Kyle Shanahan just

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Speaker 1: stuck with a veteran, and that's there's an argument to

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Speaker 1: be made that you know that's a safer route and

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Speaker 1: now you know Field struggled. Andy was better at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, but not not in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the year. Do you agree with the move and

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Speaker 1: got feeling on which direction they go? I have questions

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Speaker 1: about them. I like some of their offensive pieces, but

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Speaker 1: the defense is old. They have too much money in

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Speaker 1: the front seven. It feels like to me it's closer

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Speaker 1: to a rebuild than they want to acknowledge. I agree.

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Speaker 1: You can talk yourself into their drafts. You know, Ryan Pace,

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Speaker 1: you can you can kind of talk yourself into this

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Speaker 1: third or fourth round or that, you know what, go

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Speaker 1: back to Kevin White all the way through. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got some pretty epic mistakes, epic bus and that

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Speaker 1: stuff adds up. I mean, I think that they're you

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Speaker 1: know more, They're there further way than they'd like to

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Speaker 1: believe as well. And it's just it's a matter of quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be We thought this past offseason was nuts.

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Speaker 1: This offseason is going to be ridiculous. Like there's so

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Speaker 1: many teams that are quarterback hunting, and so many quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what they say publicly, Hello, Russell Wilson, are

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Speaker 1: probably gonna want out. The Bears thought they had Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Everything I was told. They thought that was a done deal.

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Speaker 1: They were gonna get Russell Wilson, and at the eleventh

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Speaker 1: hour it didn't happen. And you know, they were willing

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Speaker 1: to basically give Seattle anything other than Khalil Mack. And

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Speaker 1: I think John Schneider was all in. I think Schneider

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Speaker 1: was ready to move on that maybe he was even

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Speaker 1: a little tired of Russell Wilson. Okay, let's turn the page.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll did not wanted to Pete Carroll's oldest coach

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Speaker 1: in the league. He wanted to win now, and so

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Speaker 1: they get him offensive coordinator that and try to get

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Speaker 1: him to buy into that offensive coordinator in a new

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Speaker 1: way of doing things and away from the ground and

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Speaker 1: pound and running the ball all over the place. And

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was kind of talked off the ledge from

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Speaker 1: what I was heard or heard from his it's quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: coach Jake. He talked to him, He got him to

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Speaker 1: buy in, and they want what seven games this year.

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Speaker 1: I know he's gonna say nice things about Seattle. I

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Speaker 1: know Seattle was gonna say nice things about him. It's

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Speaker 1: best for Seattle move on, and it's best for Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson move on. He wants to own a team one day.

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Speaker 1: He wants to be surrounded by billionaires. He wants to

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Speaker 1: go to a different market. Yeah, I think there's no

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Speaker 1: question he will not return of Pete Carroll, and in

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Speaker 1: my opinions of out dated schemes, he'll leave if that

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Speaker 1: isn't changed. Finally, Green Bay gets a buy Who should

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Speaker 1: they be worried about as a potential first round playoff

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Speaker 1: opponent or a first opponent for them? Who would worry you,

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Speaker 1: who do you think deep down they're a little skittish

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Speaker 1: about love the question. I think it's San Francisco and

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Speaker 1: it's weird to say. I mean, this is a team

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Speaker 1: that God, I was banging the drum for Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: It's like, man, if you're gonna give away all these

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Speaker 1: first for somebody, just just play and move on. But

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Speaker 1: then you watch a game like that tonight and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo through two picks, but man, through a thumb injury,

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Speaker 1: he made some big throws. He does just enough. He's

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Speaker 1: got playmakers all over the place. Deebo Samuel is unlike

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Speaker 1: anything in the NFL with what he can do. Elijah

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Speaker 1: Mitchell as a rookie back, maybe one of the more

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Speaker 1: underrated players in the league. George gets get all the

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Speaker 1: best tight end. They're gonna get Trent Williams back. The

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Speaker 1: defense is loaded and made a ton of plays. They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be afraid. I mean they're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: afraid to go to lambeau Field and grime it up

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Speaker 1: and force a couple of turnovers and run the ball

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Speaker 1: like you said, to keep Aaron Rodgers off the field.

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Speaker 1: They really should have been Green Bay earlier in the season.

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Speaker 1: They gave that one away. That's scared me if I

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Speaker 1: was green Bay that they snuck in. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: And I also think you could put an occasional package

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Speaker 1: in with Trey Lance, which you haven't done a ton

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Speaker 1: of in the regular season. But I mean, you're playing

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Speaker 1: with house money. Green Bay struggles against the run. You

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Speaker 1: put in a red zone player to a couple of

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Speaker 1: sets a series with Trey Lance catch the Packers off guard.

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Speaker 1: The Packers again are going to sit out for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: They'll be a little rustier. I think that's a fascinating

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Speaker 1: matchup when you face these teams, especially if San Francisco

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Speaker 1: goes into the playoffs. They just beat the Rams, they

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Speaker 1: win a first round playoff series, they are a mile

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Speaker 1: high playing with house money. Those are frightening teams. Tyler Dunn, great,

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Speaker 1: seeing you a great twenty five minutes, buddy. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: soon anytime. Colin, thanks so much for having me. Man,

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