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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life,

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.

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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full

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Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig

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Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking

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Speaker 1: about this week's full episode subject, George Michael. We also

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Speaker 1: discuss those amazing music videos that were directed by future

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Speaker 1: All right, disc goes, let's get into it. Arrowsmith, Billy

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Speaker 1: of the three hell Arrowsmith called themselves the bad Boys

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Speaker 1: Billy Idol had his fair share of run ins with

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Speaker 1: George Michael seemed just designed to get arrested. At least

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Speaker 1: I uncovered another strange connection about George Michael, Arrowsmith and

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Speaker 1: Billie Idol when I was thinking about putting together this

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Speaker 1: and that's the fact that they all made great videos

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Speaker 4: their massive nights Brooklyn residencies they do every year. So

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Speaker 4: great show, love it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for on Oh, thanks for the message,

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Speaker 1: thanks to the voicemail, Craig. Of course we're playing this

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Speaker 1: one to you guys because we just like I think

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in this episode, we had a rewind

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Speaker 1: episode recently on you two. If you haven't heard it,

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Speaker 1: go check that out. Craig, Seeing you too in ninety one,

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Speaker 1: my god, that's that's huge. There's a lot of great

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Speaker 1: eras to see you two in. You know you could

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Speaker 1: earlier they did that club run in the beginning, we

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Speaker 1: ninety one would be that's prime era, Like you said,

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Speaker 1: was Zoo Zoo Tour, which I didn't love. I didn't

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Speaker 1: love that sort of imagery and all that. Oktung baby,

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Speaker 1: of course I love it all more now. That seems

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Speaker 1: to be a familiar theme. I think I'm mentioning that

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Speaker 1: almost every every episode now of how I like things

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Speaker 1: I used to dislike. But yeah, at our stadium as well,

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Speaker 1: amazing And I love the whole steady Thin Lizzie connection

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Speaker 1: as well. Very cool. All right, guys, you want to

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Speaker 1: text on anything? Question of the week next week is

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Speaker 1: going to be on your favorite Seattle grunge songwriters slash

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Speaker 1: That's how you text me as well. Let's do some

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Speaker 1: text right now. This one comes from the six to

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Speaker 1: one four. Hey Jake, Sammy from the six to one four,

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Speaker 1: huge fan of the podcast, have been listening for years.

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Speaker 1: In light of the holiday weekend, he's referencing Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite bands from Ireland is Gaelic Storm

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Speaker 1: from Galway. They're a fun combination of traditional fiddle, pub

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Speaker 1: to our Irish Restval in August. Fortunately, unfortunately, they are

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Speaker 1: shows at the Newport whenever they are in town. Again.

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Speaker 1: Love the show and can't wait to hear what stories

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Speaker 1: you have in store for the loyal fans. Thanks for everything.

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Speaker 1: Rock a rolla that's from the six one four. All right,

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Speaker 1: I gotta check out Gaelic Storm. I love that. I

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Speaker 1: love when I get a recommendation I have no idea about.

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Speaker 1: And that's I've never heard of Gaelic Storm. I'm stoked

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Speaker 1: to hear it. Three h four rights in Hey, requesting

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Speaker 1: a Hazel Atkins episode. Crazy Stories. There you are requesting

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Speaker 1: three oh four, and you shall receive. We will do

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Speaker 1: a Hazel Akins episode at some point, I promise you.

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Speaker 1: Two five three rights in old Mandz from Washington State.

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Speaker 1: My favorite Irish band, House of Pain Jump around baby. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I realize they are in a rock band, but an

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Speaker 1: influential group. Nonetheless, they are not a rock band. They

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Speaker 1: I don't believe unce I'm missing something and I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about how Sapain saw him on that first

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Speaker 1: tour though, with rage against the machine opening up? How

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Speaker 1: about that at the ICA in Boston, tiny little place.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome five seven three Rights in some kind words,

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Speaker 1: thank you five seven three. I'm blushing, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to read your text, but I appreciate it. Six

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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. If

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Speaker 1: you want to leave me a voicemail, you can DM

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Speaker 1: me as well at Disgrace Slam Pod on x on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: on Facebook. Miranda g Gillian Rights in Pussy Riot, you

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Speaker 1: need to do an episode on Pussy Riot. They dared

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Speaker 1: to stand up to Putin and they lost it. They

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Speaker 1: have stories to tell about prisons, rebellion and female advocacy

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Speaker 1: in the spirit of rock and roll rebellion. They definitely

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Speaker 1: checked that metaphorical box. Just the thought. Love the podcast, Miranda,

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Speaker 1: Love your suggestion. We'll do an episode on Pussy Riot

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Speaker 1: at some point. Linda Nolan writes in a little note

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Speaker 1: that I should be reading the Rick Rubin book and

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Speaker 1: that he narrates it on Spotify. And I haven't read

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Speaker 1: this book yet and I need to. I think I

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Speaker 1: own it. I think someone gave it to me. I

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Speaker 1: think it's in a box of books that I haven't

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Speaker 1: unpacked yet. And I'm also fascinated by Rick Rubin, sort

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Speaker 1: of every time a quote of his flashes across the feed,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in what that guy's got to say. So

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Speaker 1: thank you Linda for reminding me. Then over on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and I apologize in advance if I mess up the

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Speaker 1: pronunciation of this last name, Anthony the petron Pittrntonio de Petrontonio,

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Speaker 1: the Pietrontonio. I don't know Anthony, I'm sorry. But Anthony

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Speaker 1: writes and Irish bluesman rocker unsung seventies guitar god Rory

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Speaker 1: Gallagher from Anthony Dean Cambridge. You know, I gotta admit

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Speaker 1: I got a blind spot. I got blind years when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Rory Gallagher, and I gotta get into it.

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Speaker 1: Where do I start? Anthony? Hit me back, give me

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Speaker 1: a good recommendation, a place to start with Rory Gallagher? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I want to know Derek sterk Derek Sturkey on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Rights Hey, Jake caught the comments about Peter Frampton playing

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Speaker 1: for David Bowie. I didn't realize that it was not

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Speaker 1: general knowledge. I saw the La stop on Glass Spider's

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Speaker 1: tour was thrilled to see Frampton alongside Bowie. Here's one

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Speaker 1: light article on the tour. Thanks Derek, appreciate that we

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Speaker 1: were talking about that a couple episodes back. You guys

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Speaker 1: don't miss anything I like that about you, among many

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Speaker 1: other things. This is something that caught my eye on

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Speaker 1: X from hair Metal Messiah. Has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: Disgrace and other than the fact that we talked about this,

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Speaker 1: that we did an episode on this artist, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to read this. It's from last week and

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Speaker 1: it says it's about ACDC and it sums up ACDC

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Speaker 1: in a way that I wish I had summed this

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Speaker 1: up in my episode. Again, this is from hair Metal Messiah.

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Speaker 1: Acdc's Highway to Hell isn't just an album, It's a

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Speaker 1: goddamn prophecy. In nineteen seventy nine, while the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world was fumbling around with disco and soft rock,

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Speaker 1: these maniacs were writing the blueprint for every hard rock

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Speaker 1: and metal band today. Bond Scott sounds like he gargled glass,

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Speaker 1: lit a cigarette and chased it with a warm six pack,

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Speaker 1: while Angus Young shreds beating around the bush and walk

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Speaker 1: all over you like a possessed madman, cranking out rifts

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Speaker 1: hotter than Hell itself. Every song is a fist to

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Speaker 1: the face, a boot to the teeth, and a middle

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Speaker 1: finger to convention. This record was decades ahead of its time,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't feel it, go buy a Beg's album,

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Speaker 1: light a lavender candle, and cry yourself to sleep. You know.

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Speaker 1: Aside from all the sort of like tough guy boasting

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Speaker 1: is that it talks about Highway to Hell in its

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Speaker 1: its time, and I don't think of it that way

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Speaker 1: because Highway to Hell have become it's so huge. It's

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Speaker 1: such a huge classic rock song now. And I also

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Speaker 1: don't think of that album as the great banger that

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Speaker 1: it is, where they're like, like the person who tweeted

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Speaker 1: that says, there's not a bad song on it. Every

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Speaker 1: song on that album just crushes it, And uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I saw that. I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to read it to you guys, And again,

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Speaker 1: we got that ACDC episode in our archive. If you

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Speaker 1: are interested, all right, I'm gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash. You guys, you can

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Speaker 1: hit me up. You can text me, you can you

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Speaker 1: can send me a voicemail six one seven nine o

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Speaker 1: at the s Grace lampod on Instagram X or Facebook.

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Speaker 5: Back in the flash.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are back at disgracelam pod on the

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Speaker 1: DM six one seven nine six sixty six three eight,

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Speaker 1: voicemail and text. Reminding you, guys, search out Hollywood Land

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Speaker 1: in your podcast player, follow that podcast and start binging

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Speaker 1: our Hollywood Land podcast hosted by me, produced by Double Elvis.

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Speaker 1: We're getting our whole archive out there for you. You can

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Speaker 1: email me Disgrace Sandpod at gmail dot com let me

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Speaker 1: know what you think of those episodes, or you can

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Speaker 1: email me to talk about whatever else you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about. This Rory Gallagher thing is really really picked up.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of emails on it, got a lot

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Speaker 1: of dms. Greg Plas writes in Hey Jake, Fantastic Show.

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Speaker 1: Greg Plass also answers the question I asked in the

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Speaker 1: last block. My number one Irish musician is Rory Gallagher.

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Speaker 1: Possibly my favorite guitar player of all time depending on

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Speaker 1: what mood I'm in that day. Irish Tour seventy four, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm Irish in seventy four was a damn good year.

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Speaker 1: If You're me is an absolute classic. Keep up the

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Speaker 1: great work, my friend, Greg, Greg. I appreciate it. Greg.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna bump that today when I'm working out.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for Irish Tourist seventy four. Rory Gallagher

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Speaker 1: Disgray sampod at gmail dot com. You guys want to

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Speaker 1: get in touch about anything else, Knox Bronson writes in Hey,

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Speaker 1: love your episode on Zeppelin, especially the part about David Bowie.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that White Stains was an Alistair Crowley book,

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Speaker 1: as name checked in Station to Station. In a nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy five interview, Bowie said something to the effect of

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Speaker 1: I'm not evil. Alice Cooper isn't evil, lou isn't evil,

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Speaker 1: but there are evil bands. Just look at led Zeppelin.

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Speaker 1: This is a fascinating topic to me. Thank you, Knox Bronson.

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Speaker 1: David Bowie's fear of Jimmy Page and the power of

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Speaker 1: the dark evil power that he felt that Led Zeppelin possessed.

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Speaker 1: That story never gets old to me, and not a

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Speaker 1: lot has been has been has been said about it.

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Speaker 1: Not enough, I should say, has been said about it.

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Speaker 1: I certainly said my piece, but I wasn't there. I

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Speaker 1: can only say what others have said, and I can

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Speaker 1: only contextualize it in the larger story as I see

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Speaker 1: it now. I did not see any of this evil

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Speaker 1: evident in the recent led Zeppelin documentary, which I loved,

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Speaker 1: but which you know, I think I mentioned here. I

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Speaker 1: wanted it to be so much more, and this was

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Speaker 1: not represented in any way. And I don't mean I

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Speaker 1: get why Jimmy Page doesn't want people talking about him

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Speaker 1: and Alistair Crowley living in his house and the black

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Speaker 1: Dog and all that stuff. We're doing cocaine and scaring

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Speaker 1: the shit out of Jimmy Page, but you know, we're

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Speaker 1: completely missing the point of led Zeppelin if we gloss

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Speaker 1: past the part of their history that is that darkness

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Speaker 1: and what it represented, and how somebody like David Bowie

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Speaker 1: was legitimately scared of Jimmy Page. Fascinating stuff. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Dox Bonsor for reminding me that disgrace sampod at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. This one comes from Shane Schmidt, subject we

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Speaker 1: need the Anti Flag story message. I'm a longtime listener

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Speaker 1: and a huge fan of the show, and up until now,

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Speaker 1: I never really had a reason to write in. Much

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Speaker 1: like Jake, I'm an old punk from the nineties with

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Speaker 1: fascinated by its history, as ugly as the stories may

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago when I was reading up on one

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Speaker 1: due to the horrible actions of and allegations against Justin

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Speaker 1: haven and who always claimed to stand for equality, human

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Speaker 1: rights and claim to be feminists, forced to disband and

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Speaker 1: see their front man flee the country due to allegations

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Speaker 1: of sexual assault, grooming, and statutory rape. Now that's a

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Speaker 1: true disgrace and we need this story to be told. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Please keep up the great work and forgive my rambling.

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Speaker 1: I do that when I'm nervous. Thank you, Shane Schmidt. Shane,

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Speaker 1: you know this story cross my view, and I thought

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Speaker 1: but my first inclination is that the story hasn't yet resolved.

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Speaker 1: There's still more to come out. It's tough for me

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Speaker 1: If I'm being perfectly honest with you and trying to

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Speaker 1: keep up with everything, that's all the truth, all the conjecture,

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Speaker 1: the transgressions that are real, the transgressions that are fiction.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for this ditty trial to actually start,

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Speaker 1: so there could be a punctuation point at the end

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Speaker 1: of this story and I can cover it for in

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Speaker 1: some finality and tell you exactly what happened and all

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Speaker 1: the drama behind it. Anti flag. I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: not completely told yet, but I will get into it

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Speaker 1: once I feel like more of the story has settled.

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Speaker 1: Promise you that. Disgrace sampod at gmail dot com. If

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Speaker 1: you guys have any other suggestions on stories, I just

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Speaker 1: want to rant about anything else. Dane Zerbie writes in

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Speaker 1: from last week, Hey Jake, longtime listen. I thoroughly enjoyed

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Speaker 1: your bad Lands feed. Is there a way that I

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Speaker 1: can access all of the episodes? Listen? Dan, listen. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there is a way. Go to your podcast player right now, Dan,

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Speaker 1: and search hollywood Land, okay, and you're gonna get I

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Speaker 1: believe it's thirty nine, perhaps forty episodes of hollywood Land

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Speaker 1: which were formerly Badlands episodes. Right there. You can access them.

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Speaker 1: You can check them out, and then make sure you're

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Speaker 1: following hollywood Land and every week, okay, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a new piece of hollywood Land content, a new episode

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Speaker 1: from that archive, and eventually, eventually, Dan, you will get

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Speaker 1: new hollywood Land episodes. Okay, And that goes for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Search and follow hollywood Land, and you know, leave a

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Speaker 1: review for the show as well if you like it,

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Speaker 1: if you like what you're hearing, leave a review for

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Speaker 1: hollywood Land. Okay. Let the people know help us out

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Speaker 1: with the discovery, just like you do with Disgraceland. It's important.

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Speaker 1: It's why I talk about it every single week. It's

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Speaker 1: why I feature one reviewer of Disgraceland. I read your

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Speaker 1: review here on the show. And if you hear me

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Speaker 1: read your review and you hit me up Disgrace sampod

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, or you hit me up on

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Speaker 1: the socials, you hit me up anywhere. Get in touch.

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Speaker 1: I'll get your address from you and I'll send you

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Speaker 1: some free merch. This one comes from Molight Sound, Thin

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Speaker 1: Lizzy Ultra five stars, Thin Lizzy. Episode is everything that

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Speaker 1: is great about Disgraceland, everything that is great about rock

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Speaker 1: and roll. The kids know it's dangerous. Ha, we always knew.

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Speaker 1: Great show. Amigo, you got it, Mo light sound, Mo

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Speaker 1: light sound. Get in touch. We'll get you some free merch.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this other one here too. One is

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Speaker 1: not enough. That's I'm not making this shit up. That's

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Speaker 1: what the title of this review is. One is not enough.

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Speaker 1: Five stars. Jake Maman ninety four from the two two five.

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Speaker 1: My husband and I love your show. We could listen

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Speaker 1: to you all day, and some days I do just that.

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Speaker 1: I tell everyone about the super Cat with all the tea.

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Speaker 1: I like to let a few of these episodes pile

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Speaker 1: up and then listen. Because one is not enough, Well listen,

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Speaker 1: Momma ninety four. I may have read this review before

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Speaker 1: but Mama ninety four, listen, I'm reading it again because

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Speaker 1: we have a whole bunch of episodes, those that are

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Speaker 1: piled up now in the Hollywood Land Feed, and those

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Speaker 1: are for you to listen to all right over on Spotify,

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Speaker 1: Troy Tripp, This is not a review, but it's a comment,

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Speaker 1: and I like it because I don't understand it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it anyways. Troy Trip writes in in

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Speaker 1: response to the Din Lizzy episode, Saint Patty's Day episode

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Speaker 1: more like an April fools Day episode. We all know

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Speaker 1: Jake hates Thin Lizzie. I don't hate thing Lizzie, never

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Speaker 1: hated Din Lizzy, love Thin Lizzie pretty much. I've always

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Speaker 1: loved Thin Lizzy. I don't I still to this day,

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Speaker 1: don't know where this notion comes from from. You guys

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Speaker 1: that I disliked then Lizzie. I thought producing this episode

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Speaker 1: on Thin Lizzy will put that to bed. But it

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Speaker 1: has not. Talk about misinformation, talk about conspiracy theories. Yeesh,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know it's not a conspiracy. You know

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Speaker 1: it's not misinformation. The fact that this episode is unfortunately

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Speaker 1: nearing its end, but the after party continues for you guys,

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Speaker 1: if you're an All Access member, you're gonna get more.

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Speaker 1: slash membership. All right, we're back. I didn't really mention

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Speaker 1: you too that much this episode. We did other rewinded

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Speaker 1: episode on YouTube. A lot of great comments from you guys.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. Thank you for reaching out. As always,

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Speaker 1: we discussed a ton of artists in this bonus episode

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Speaker 1: who are featured in archive episodes of Disgraceland ac DC,

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Speaker 1: David Bowie, Arrowsmith, Madonna, Beastie Boys, Wu Tang. We did

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Speaker 1: a whole season on Wu Tang. Matt will have episode

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Speaker 1: information in the show notes of this bonus episode. If

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Speaker 1: who are in our archive, we have over I think

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Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five plus episodes right now. If

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Speaker 1: you're new to the show, I'm telling you man, lots

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Speaker 1: of episodes in the archive. Get in there, get listening.

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Speaker 1: Hit me up six one seven, nine oh six, six

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Speaker 1: me know what you think of these archive episodes and guys,

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Speaker 1: as always, I want your requests, I want your suggestions,

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Speaker 1: I want your recommendations on the subjects I should be covering. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's recap. Number one. Bad Lands is now

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Speaker 1: hollywood Land, and archive episodes on the subject of Hollywood

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Speaker 1: and true crime are now available in the hollywood Land

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Speaker 1: feed search and follow hollywood Land on the Odyssey app

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Speaker 1: Please just search hollywood Land, give it a follow and

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Speaker 1: get a bingein Number two right now in your Disgraceland episode,

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Speaker 1: our new episode on George Michael, number three coming tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: our rewind episode on Sam Cook and number four merch winners,

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Speaker 1: Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five. Remember,

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Speaker 1: no one cares about preserving the true spirit or rock

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Speaker 1: and roll more than you doing well. That's a disgrace,

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Speaker 1: all right. An honor of this week's subject, George Michael,

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Speaker 1: I give to you the Billboard charts from Christmas Day

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. The Day the Greek God of Careless Whispers

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Speaker 1: pass away. Number one, Black Beatles Ray Swimmer featuring Gucci

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Speaker 1: Maine last week one, peak position one weeks on chart thirteen,

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Speaker 1: number two, Starboy The Weekend featuring Daft Punk last week two,

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Speaker 1: peak position two weeks on A twelve, Number three closer

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Speaker 1: weeks on chart nineteen. Number four, twenty four Kme Magic

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Speaker 1: bu No Mars last week five, peak position four weeks

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Speaker 1: on charts nine number five. Side to side Arianna Grande

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Speaker 1: on chart fifteen, number six.

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Speaker 2: Juju on that beat say

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Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing could