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Speaker 1: It's Gil Alexander, It's Kelly Bedlin, producer number nine, so
Speaker 1: much more than a producer.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man? Do it great? How about you go?
Speaker 1: Well, we just got here months ago. There's this guy
Speaker 1: outside of actually in the place I know, I know
Speaker 1: stopped usn't.
Speaker 2: We forgot a bottle of Larcenai bourbon for me. I
Speaker 2: see yea is.
Speaker 1: He supposed to bring you? So I was promised guessing
Speaker 1: lines for week number eight in the National Football League
Speaker 1: coming up, and Kelly, I don't know about you, but
Speaker 1: week number seven, uh, the hot streak was stopped for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was an OK week, but uh,
Speaker 2: when you're in it in circum millions, Gilly better than
Speaker 2: an OK week.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was the whole time I was bigging you
Speaker 1: up at nine and when I was drifting you at
Speaker 1: eight and two taking all my pressure off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's subtly what Gil was doing all last week.
Speaker 1: By the way, Kelly is so good at this, and
Speaker 1: I crashed. I got it two and three.
Speaker 2: I went three and two, three and two, and then
Speaker 2: a two and two with the Cardinals pending today. So yeah,
Speaker 2: the Packers got me. That was the one that should
Speaker 2: have won and didn't. And we'll get it all that
Speaker 2: we've done on both entries. Gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If you're if you're wondering what this is, guessing lines,
Speaker 1: we do this every week. We've done it for years
Speaker 1: and years. What it is is, Uh, I'm in a cocoon.
Speaker 1: I don't know the lines. This is sort of interactive,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to play along. The first reaction is usually
Speaker 1: the best reaction, not this past week, but usually the
Speaker 1: best reaction to this. We'll go through the games from yesterday.
Speaker 1: We'll take stabs at next week. We'll find out how
Speaker 1: off we are or how close we are to what
Speaker 1: the actual line is, and within that process we look
Speaker 1: to extract value. That's what we do here. First though,
Speaker 1: a Survivor update Circus Survivor after five weeks of michugas
Speaker 1: technical term in two weeks now of just stopping cold,
Speaker 1: five entries last week out of to twenty one, and
Speaker 1: then two entries this week out of two sixteen gone,
Speaker 1: so seven in the last two weeks we got all
Speaker 1: away from fourteen two hundred and sixty six to two
Speaker 1: hundred twenty one in five weeks, and in the last
Speaker 1: two weeks we've gone from two twenty one to two fourteen.
Speaker 1: So there we are.
Speaker 2: We knew it was going to happen at some point, Yes,
Speaker 2: we did.
Speaker 1: Actual intrinsic value of each remaining of the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fourteen remaining is but poo, poo, poo, poop sixty
Speaker 1: six and sixty three dollars and fifty five cents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still doesn't get any easier to hear every week
Speaker 2: you'l for you, for.
Speaker 1: You and me both. Yes, yeah, only one entry on
Speaker 1: the Falcons won. On the Vikings, those were taken out
Speaker 1: here this past week. Somebody was going for uh so
Speaker 1: someone I don't know what they're you know, we can
Speaker 1: always speculate, right obviously where they're multiple entries. Did they
Speaker 1: think that the other side of those was going to
Speaker 1: be heavily played? I don't think you can make that
Speaker 1: case for either of those, Yeah, Falcons or Viking. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what what was going on with those two.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, know what, let's put it this way. You
Speaker 1: know what stopped this year? People failing to submit? Have
Speaker 1: you noticed that? Oh? Really, finally, finally we got to
Speaker 1: a year where people figured out, oh this is actually I.
Speaker 2: Feel like we were still ripping on at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year. But now that we've gotten into the
Speaker 2: real money, people have stopped. I guess, yeah, well maybe
Speaker 2: that's maybe, maybe that's correlated. Maybe because it crashed so quickly,
Speaker 2: it was obvious that you couldn't you know, people who
Speaker 2: are still in that had to be locked in and
Speaker 2: again I'll say it beforehand into week one, I don't
Speaker 2: go crazy over people not submitting because people have lives.
Speaker 2: They forget that they you know, and they're doing thousand.
Speaker 2: They're doing the sign up earlier and earlier. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean. If your you're out here with your
Speaker 2: bros partying in May and then sign up for some
Speaker 2: contests and then completely just forget on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that happening. I go the other
Speaker 1: way on the first week. But yeah, good, so at
Speaker 1: at least people are submitting. So again, sixty six thousand strong,
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars per of the remaining two hundred and
Speaker 1: fourteen entries. And now it's time for guessing lines week
Speaker 1: number eight in the National Football League. That's not guessing.
Speaker 2: Not a sickle buy in.
Speaker 1: Week an't killed not a buye Have they ever done
Speaker 1: that before?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Doesn't it feel like a weird week
Speaker 2: for they're not to.
Speaker 1: Be buys Once the buys start, they kind of go
Speaker 1: till the end, right, Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: There's another one, like I think the week after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Like Thanksgiving, in the week after there's no buy. What
Speaker 2: you're telling me is there was a buy Island, Yes,
Speaker 2: bye island, by island, the bye Island spot. What do
Speaker 2: we get on Thursday? There we go, all right?
Speaker 1: Thursday night Vikings at the Rams. Ooh okay, it's a
Speaker 1: pretty good game. But this is this gives us opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk about a couple of things here with the
Speaker 1: with the respective games. Yesterday, Minnesota loses to Detroit thirty
Speaker 1: one to twenty nine. It would ended up being a
Speaker 1: really dramatic finish in this game. I don't know what
Speaker 1: Detroit was thinking. Early fourth and seven at their own
Speaker 1: thirty three. They faked a punch.
Speaker 2: God, that was so bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jayalen Reeves maybe on fourth and seven only gained
Speaker 1: a yard set up Minnesota. Second play of that drive,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones in from thirty four, touchdown seven and nothing
Speaker 1: Minnesota early and you're like, what were you doing? Dan
Speaker 1: Galble ten to nothing? Then Vikings and then it was
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lion show. Five plays, sixty nine yards, Gibbs
Speaker 1: in from forty five to make it ten to seven,
Speaker 1: three and out or excuse me, at least a punt
Speaker 1: for Minnesota. Next Detroit drive five plays eighty three yards,
Speaker 1: go off to Saint Brown for thirty five fourteen to
Speaker 1: ten Detroit, and then Darnald under threw a pass badly
Speaker 1: picked by Brian Branch. By the way, Brian Branch, what
Speaker 1: a season he is. Yes, every week he comes up
Speaker 1: in this exercise.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of those that would have been
Speaker 2: a ridiculous catch if it was a star wide receiver,
Speaker 2: and he lays out for it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Detroit nine plays seventy two yards Jamirian from eight twenty
Speaker 1: one to ten and a half, and then they started trading.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the third quarter. Vikings big drive
Speaker 1: Darnald to Jefferson for twenty five. By the way, justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson just as good as ever. Cut it to twenty
Speaker 1: one seventeen, but the Lions right back nine play seventy
Speaker 1: yards go off to Raymond Khalif Raymond for twenty one
Speaker 1: twenty eight seventeen. It would get to twenty eight twenty
Speaker 1: three after a couple of will Reiker field goals. By
Speaker 1: the way, he never misses another nine, Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight to twenty three Detroit. Then Detroit was so
Speaker 1: that's was six ozh four left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: But Detroit with the ball up five second attend at
Speaker 1: their own thirty, Montgomery hit by Joshua and Tellis he
Speaker 1: fumbles Ivan Pace Junior thirty six yards scoop and score
Speaker 1: two point. Trive fails, but Minnesota as the lead twenty
Speaker 1: nine to twenty eight with five point fifty left, and
Speaker 1: then teams would trade three and outs after that, So
Speaker 1: Minnesota actually had the ball with the lead at one point,
Speaker 1: but they couldn't do anything with it. And then Detroit,
Speaker 1: starting at their own thirty with two thirty two left,
Speaker 1: Jake baits forty four yard field goal thirty one to
Speaker 1: twenty nine with fifteen seconds left that would hold Lions win.
Speaker 1: Let me just ask you this. Noted Vikings fan Will
Speaker 1: Hill thought that the Vikings should have gone for it
Speaker 1: in this ballgame when it was what was it fourth
Speaker 1: and one? I believe was it fourth and one on
Speaker 1: that last three And I don't have to Jake exactly,
Speaker 1: but it was fourth and very short, and he thought
Speaker 1: they should go for it, and even if they failed that,
Speaker 1: even if Detroit scored at that point, there would be
Speaker 1: enough time on the clock for the Vikings to do
Speaker 1: something about it at that point. But instead they go
Speaker 1: ahead and they punt Detroit can milk it and get
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking.
Speaker 1: I didn't think much time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna say it was the wrong thought,
Speaker 2: I guess. I just it did not stick out to
Speaker 2: me at that moment. Yeah, and nor did it to me.
Speaker 2: Great job missing a two point conversion though, Minnesota we
Speaker 2: needed that one. Yes, we needed that one. So some
Speaker 2: of us needed that one.
Speaker 1: The Brahs more interesting the Rams yesterday they beat the Raiders,
Speaker 1: not that game being interesting because you know that game
Speaker 1: was three to nothing Raiders. And then Minshew picked by
Speaker 1: Kobe Durant in the in the first half we're talking,
Speaker 1: that led to a Rams four play, forty seven yard
Speaker 1: drive kyroen in from thirteen seven to three Rams with
Speaker 1: three minutes left to the second quarter. Then the Raiders
Speaker 1: next drive, Minshew hit by Kobe Durant, fumbles former Skins
Speaker 1: great Cameron Curl with a thirty three yard scoop and
Speaker 1: score fourteen to three Rams. It would be fourteen to
Speaker 1: six of the half, and then what do you know,
Speaker 1: Raiders third and six of their own twenty four Minshew
Speaker 1: picked by Jalen McCullough. That set up the Rams at
Speaker 1: the Raiders twenty six, Xavier Smith for twenty four, kyroen
Speaker 1: In from two, twenty to six Rams Joshua Cardy would
Speaker 1: miss the extra point. So then it got to twenty
Speaker 1: to nine and then twenty to twelve with a couple
Speaker 1: of Carls in field goals. Then Cardy doinked a thirty
Speaker 1: five yard field goal try. So it was still a
Speaker 1: one score game. And here's where it got.
Speaker 2: It said, here we go.
Speaker 1: This has more to do with the Raiders and the Rams,
Speaker 1: so just play along with it. Here Raiders have fourth
Speaker 1: and goals. So the Raiders are down eight, fourth and
Speaker 1: goal at the Rams nine with two fifty left in
Speaker 1: the game. What do you do? Al CoA presents, what
Speaker 1: do you do? I know it's a cola thing, but
Speaker 1: you don't what to talk about. Uh, we'll tell you
Speaker 1: what Antonio Pierce decided to do. He decided to kick
Speaker 1: a field goal Carlson twenty seven yard chip shot field goal.
Speaker 1: Because when you get a chance to cut a one
Speaker 1: score game to a one score game with two fifty left,
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta take that.
Speaker 2: I mean. The weirdest part about it was it was
Speaker 2: or not maybe not the weird The weirdest part is
Speaker 2: what you just described, but it was pass pass pass
Speaker 2: field goal like if you usually go with like, that
Speaker 2: means you're going for it on fourth yeusure.
Speaker 1: The weirdest part about it is that I learned that
Speaker 1: the Raiders have a game management person. Well, of course
Speaker 1: they do, every team should, uh, but apparently theirs was
Speaker 1: out yesterday or something. No, he wasn't to say, because
Speaker 1: if this was your choice, what are we doing? So,
Speaker 1: by the way, they make the field goal rams, they
Speaker 1: do have all three of their timeouts. Kyroen got fourteen.
Speaker 1: They went to the two minute warning, so the Raiders
Speaker 1: still had all three of their timeouts. They do use them,
Speaker 1: they do force a punt, but you end up down
Speaker 1: five at your own eleven with one thirty nine left,
Speaker 1: no timeouts, and then Minshew, by the way, was picked
Speaker 1: again third and ten at eleven by McCullough, and that
Speaker 1: was the ballgame. Katie bar the door. But essentially what
Speaker 1: you did was you traded a fourth and goal at
Speaker 1: the nine, down eight with all three timeouts, four a
Speaker 1: first and ten at your own eleven with no timeouts,
Speaker 1: down five with one thirty nine left, and you can
Speaker 1: say to yourself. Hey, but Gillet, it worked out. They
Speaker 1: used their three timeouts and so they did get the
Speaker 1: ball back. Yeah, but there was no gear. First of all,
Speaker 1: there was no guarantee that it was going to work.
Speaker 2: That worked out perfectly.
Speaker 1: It worked out perfectly for them, right, so they got
Speaker 1: over a part that they had to get over. It
Speaker 1: still worked out for them. But the trade then is
Speaker 1: still again, take one shot at nine yards, yes, and
Speaker 1: then a two point conversion to try to tie it
Speaker 1: versus Yeah, we'll take it all the way back and
Speaker 1: we get to win this time though if we get there.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the trade off. We get to win
Speaker 1: if we score a touch, But you still have to
Speaker 1: go eighty nine yards with no timeouts. And there is
Speaker 1: nothing about your offense quite frankly, that suggests that this
Speaker 1: is a good proposition.
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, And I mean Minshew filling in in that game, Yes,
Speaker 2: there's nothing. That was the perfect example though, Like, why
Speaker 2: why do you always go for it there?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: It's because it played out exactly the best.
Speaker 1: Win could have, unlike the Vikings thing. In real time.
Speaker 1: I was losing my mind on this, as everyone does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was really anyway, that's the Raiders that's later Minnesota
Speaker 1: at the Rams, I said, Minnesota minus three and.
Speaker 2: A half, Yeah, a little high. Right now it is
Speaker 2: three on the open are pretty much everywhere in LA
Speaker 2: all interesting. Thank he's taking money though right now so
Speaker 2: juiced threes. I think Chrissy would say, I like your
Speaker 2: number better at that. We'll come back. We're guessing lines.
Speaker 2: We'll get the Sunday's games for.
Speaker 1: Week eight in the National Football League right here on
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Speaker 1: Back on a Numbers game live from Circu Resort Casino,
Speaker 1: downtown Las Vegas, Kill Alexander. It's my buddy, Kelly Biddley. Everybody,
Speaker 1: Kelly Biddley there he is. He's waving way Dodgers Yankees
Speaker 1: after all. Huh yeah, yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't wait for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I said that every time I said, this is the
Speaker 1: one year to do all these different matchups, and then
Speaker 1: I would end it always by saying, watch it'll be the.
Speaker 2: Game if you if you just bet like ten dollars
Speaker 2: on the on the exact matchup.
Speaker 1: Every time I said that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I guess who didn't do that?
Speaker 1: That'd be me. We get tweets at beating the book.
Speaker 1: Bob c Dash one thirty seven sounds like a city ordinance.
Speaker 1: He says, got killed by the hook this weekend, anyone else,
Speaker 1: These lines are getting tighter and tighter.
Speaker 2: Las Vegas five to one, four yo.
Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten that heart in your throat feeling
Speaker 1: I did yesterday when our quarterback went out. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you a sheesh. Let's dust off the old flackjack
Speaker 1: and get ready for Chicago. He's obviously referring to Jade
Speaker 1: and Daniels of the DC Skins, who uh, Can I
Speaker 1: be honest with you because everybody was I appreciate everybody
Speaker 1: checking in on my mental health yesterday after this. This
Speaker 1: was always the you know, Jayden Daniels with the RG
Speaker 1: three vibes, and part of the RG three vibes is
Speaker 1: also worried that Jade and Daniels is gonna get hurt.
Speaker 1: And RGIE three's first injury the year that he blew
Speaker 1: out his knee in the playoffs against Seattle was actually
Speaker 1: a sprain knee against Baltimore. So if whatever happened to
Speaker 1: him yesterday, and we don't know exactly, we don't think
Speaker 1: it's broken based on all sort of indications X ray's negative,
Speaker 1: X raysed negatives. Yes, ray negative, but undergoing more tests
Speaker 1: today apparently. Yeah, I don't know what all that, so
Speaker 1: we don't know completely what the extent is. But weirdly
Speaker 1: I sort of related that that to RG three and
Speaker 1: felt good that, Okay, if this is the injury he gets,
Speaker 1: we got away with one, right, Like that's the that's
Speaker 1: the PTSD I have about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It's really interesting because it just left me
Speaker 2: thinking yesterday of how many times we've warned about thinner,
Speaker 2: smaller quarterbacks this stuff happening to and then like Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson has somehow like basically gone on skates for so
Speaker 2: much of his career through this stuff.
Speaker 1: He hasn't. He hasn't, right, but he has mostly guy
Speaker 1: and large. Yeah, it's luck of the draw man, but eventually,
Speaker 1: eventually it'll get you. Riley grannin the idea of an
Speaker 1: apolitical betting segment with Gil's show here two weeks prior
Speaker 1: to election, seems impossible better to explain where US betters
Speaker 1: can participate difference in poll slash election model slash betting markets,
Speaker 1: and then have two guests taking different positions. It seems
Speaker 1: like Riley, seems like Riley does want to want a segment.
Speaker 1: He goes on to say other potential elections betting topics
Speaker 1: for Gil one bipolar nature of national polls or sustate poles,
Speaker 1: lack of high quality public state polling. Two why betting
Speaker 1: on trends, polling historical results results makes sense in election betting,
Speaker 1: and three manipulation of betting markets. That third one, how
Speaker 1: about manipulation of polling? Also, this is gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 2: Talk yourself into it.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you sounds like you want to be on
Speaker 1: Ben Handorf Gilly regarding the megapod discussion, I would love
Speaker 1: to see a video version. Audio downloads be damned. I'd
Speaker 1: particularly love to see the veins popping out of your
Speaker 1: forehead yelling at Todd to stop interrupting, and seeing the
Speaker 1: guests face during this would also be great.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the guess what is classic?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I don't get frustrated at
Speaker 1: all with Todd Gills at.
Speaker 2: Lee's used to it. It is the guest face is
Speaker 2: always uh, that's always the one to watch out.
Speaker 1: Todd has never met a sentence of mind that he
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he has something more important to say,
Speaker 1: and that should be ended prematurely. Sam Ginsberg, you guys
Speaker 1: are being very unfair to the Raiders coaches. They were
Speaker 1: actually planning on winning with three field goals in the
Speaker 1: last two fifty.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, there's all the Vegas jokes, right, great
Speaker 2: Las Vegas coach there, Gil covers the spread work. I'm
Speaker 2: working up the courage if I run into coach at
Speaker 2: the building to.
Speaker 1: Say something, Yeah, God, good luck on that one. Hey, coach,
Speaker 1: can we jet how about these mints? Huh?
Speaker 2: You know what I would say to a great job
Speaker 2: of Brock Bowers, coach, That's true, you really coached Bok.
Speaker 1: Wow, he's your best receiver. Right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: What's next?
Speaker 2: All right? Sunday, early slate, No London, no overseas games
Speaker 2: this week. This is one pm Eastern Eagles at Bengals.
Speaker 1: Eagles crush the Giants. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: much of this. Where does Eagles goods start an end
Speaker 1: and where does Giants bad starting in? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight to three Eagles. Eagles roll the Giants.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like it was just a punt
Speaker 1: fest early and then Philly.
Speaker 2: But by the way, this it was a sacrifice all
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. Yeah, we're watching red zone at all. Oh, yes,
Speaker 2: it's like the craziest red zone game I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: In the first half, it was zero zero in the
Speaker 1: first quarter and both quarterback had already been sacked three
Speaker 1: times each. I'm not making that wild. Philly then went
Speaker 1: five play seventy four yards Saquon in from three. That
Speaker 1: was set up by Saquon for fifty five or as
Speaker 1: Scott Hansen calls him, siquan.
Speaker 2: I did not catch that all day.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was Brown's that way, but all
Speaker 1: he's like a sequan. Seven to nothing Philly second quarter,
Speaker 1: like eight to fifty eight left second quarter, then g
Speaker 1: then the fourth sack of Daniel Jones. Philly got the
Speaker 1: ball back fourth and three at the Giants forty one
Speaker 1: Hurts to Brown for all of it fourteen to nothing
Speaker 1: Philly and the route was on. Jones then got sacked
Speaker 1: a fifth time. Hurts got sacked a fourth time. This
Speaker 1: is still in the first half. Giants, we get a
Speaker 1: touchdown nullified off of a PI and they would have
Speaker 1: to settle for a Joseph thirty eight yard field goal
Speaker 1: fourteen to three at the half. Then in the second half,
Speaker 1: Philly ten play seventy seven yards Hurts in from one
Speaker 1: on a on a Touks bush set up by a
Speaker 1: Sequan thirty eight yards scamper earlier twenty one to three,
Speaker 1: and then Jones was sacked for a sixth time, Sequan
Speaker 1: for forty one to start the drive the revenge sequon game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Spread a ten play ninety two yard drive, Hurts in
Speaker 1: on another Tilkens push fourth and goal from the one,
Speaker 1: twenty eight to three.
Speaker 2: You don't need to know the rest.
Speaker 1: In the end, Hurts was sacked four times, what is it, respectively,
Speaker 1: But the Eagles quarterbacks Getty pick had got in and
Speaker 1: then Drew Locke got in for Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: was not happy about that. But in the end, Hurts
Speaker 1: was sacked four times. Eagles quarterbacks sacked a total of
Speaker 1: five times. Daniel Jones was sacked seven times. Giants quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are total eight times. So that was fun.
Speaker 2: I was not surprised at all to see the Giants
Speaker 2: go to.
Speaker 1: Lock because whatever whatever, Yeah, because he didn't know if
Speaker 1: it was just because the game was hopeless at that
Speaker 1: point and it was just spread hanging from injury or if
Speaker 1: it was a performance thing.
Speaker 2: In whatever with those two quarterbacks. Might you want to
Speaker 2: see a little bit of lock this year in times
Speaker 2: like this. I think that's how I'd treat it. I
Speaker 2: was a little bit more surprised that Hurts left as
Speaker 2: early as he has, just because this offense hasn't really
Speaker 2: been firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 1: But they don't feel great the Eagles, they don't. Ball
Speaker 1: says that Daniel Jones is his starting quarterback coming up
Speaker 1: in a week eight and Cincinnati beats Cleveland. Charlie Jones opened
Speaker 1: it off with a one hundred yard kickoff return for
Speaker 1: a touchdown for the Bengals to make it seven and nothing.
Speaker 1: It was still seven and nothing when Cleveland had the
Speaker 1: ball late second quarter. We know what happened here, second
Speaker 1: and six at the Cincinnati twenty one with one twenty
Speaker 1: six left in the half. Deshaun Watson non contact injury,
Speaker 1: a clear rupture of the achilles tendon. Dtr In by
Speaker 1: the way immediately a PI and the end zone. Next play,
Speaker 1: Chubb in from one, but the offense was off sides.
Speaker 1: They did get in with Nick Chubb from the one
Speaker 1: on fourth and goal from the one to make it
Speaker 1: seven to six, and of course any fleeting Cleveland excitement
Speaker 1: immediately gets extinguished by a missed extra point because just
Speaker 1: that's how it's going for Cleveland. It was seven and
Speaker 1: six at the half. But the Deshaun thing man, they
Speaker 1: start booming, they start like cheering the fact that.
Speaker 2: It's like I get it.
Speaker 1: You hate DeShawn both for his performance and the off
Speaker 1: field stuff, but like there is at that moment in
Speaker 1: one person's life when your leg is just when your
Speaker 1: calf is detached from your heel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first reaction was I was going to pick up
Speaker 2: my phone and text him, like, what's even the point?
Speaker 2: Like it's so it was that obviously.
Speaker 1: It was you didn't you didn't need an expert, right
Speaker 1: and Achilles Raptors to tell you that wasn't a kill.
Speaker 2: There was that, and then look, I was a guy
Speaker 2: pregame having fun on Twitter too about some of the
Speaker 2: fan reactions of did you catch the chu? There was
Speaker 2: someone put out a video of Chubb running out and
Speaker 2: then Deshaun Watson running out, and it was like all
Speaker 2: these cheers for Chubb Deshaun Watson, all these booze like
Speaker 2: you said, I I want to see Jamis in this offense.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see Jamis. I didn't want Deshaun Watson to
Speaker 2: get hurt though, Like that's we're never rooting for anybody again, and.
Speaker 1: Especially not like that. I mean he is.
Speaker 2: That's they have to pay him every one of these dollars,
Speaker 2: by the way, everyone, I mean, that's that's the other part.
Speaker 2: If you want to extend that conversation, which maybe we'll
Speaker 2: do in later days, but these whole full, get fully
Speaker 2: guaranteed contracts, right, we all thought this was gonna be
Speaker 2: the last time we saw it. If you're a player
Speaker 2: seeing that yesterday, why would did you want to not
Speaker 2: ask for.
Speaker 1: That seven to six second half? Cleveland fourth or two
Speaker 1: at the Cincinnati thirty five DTR incomplete intended for Chubb.
Speaker 1: Then Cincinnati would take that go five plays n sixty
Speaker 1: five yards, borrow to Chase for eighteen to make it
Speaker 1: fourteen to six. Then DTR was picked off deflection by
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard. A little later. You know, they could have
Speaker 1: taken a fifty seven yard field goal try to extend
Speaker 1: the lead, but they're like Cleveland's not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to do anything, So you know they cleverly played it conservatively.
Speaker 1: Eventually they got four play. Fifty yard drive borow to
Speaker 1: Higgins made it twenty one to six. Dtr picked again.
Speaker 1: McPherson would miss the fifty yarder but and then Cleveland
Speaker 1: would get a touchdown with Jamis at the helm, twenty
Speaker 1: one to fourteen. I do they did declare an on
Speaker 1: side kick, but the did failed as they all do.
Speaker 1: Twenty one to fourteen. Cincinnati wins. I will say that Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: this was a tough line to make, Cincinnati hosting the Eagles,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati by I split the difference between a field goal
Speaker 1: and a pick them Cincinnati by one and.
Speaker 2: A half, and it is two into half. I believe
Speaker 2: this game. I thought I was gonna be wrong on
Speaker 2: the other side. Yeah, this was. I'm a little surprised too.
Speaker 2: I bet a lot of openers yesterday, Gil this was
Speaker 2: not one of them. But I'm close.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati still gets a little respect in the market. They do, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do. Since Okay, so Cincinna by two and a half. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just thought that.
Speaker 2: I mean that defense is still bad on the Cincinnati
Speaker 2: side and the offense not looking super sharp.
Speaker 1: While we're here, do we have a Cleveland game that
Speaker 1: we can we do Ravens at Browns. So the Ravens
Speaker 1: played a night part of the double header in the
Speaker 1: in Monday Night Football, they take on the Bucks.
Speaker 2: In the good game.
Speaker 1: At least on paper of the matchups tonight, DeShawn ended
Speaker 1: up fifteen of seventeen for one to twenty eight before
Speaker 1: his injury. DTR was eleven of twenty four for eighty two,
Speaker 1: and Jamis was five of eleven for sixty seven. They
Speaker 1: held Cincinnati. Cleveland did to two hundred and twenty three
Speaker 1: total yards, but they were minus two and turnovers and loss.
Speaker 1: I'll say I split between seven and ten now that
Speaker 1: it's Jamis got to be Baltimore minus eight and a half.
Speaker 2: We're in there, right, Circus got eight and a half.
Speaker 2: South Points got ten, South Points got ten.
Speaker 1: Here you go, Chrissy, Finny and Jimmy can't aggressive with
Speaker 1: it outsight unseen on the Ravens. We'll come back more
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Speaker 1: has happened. He's still the head coach of the Raiders.
Speaker 1: If you're tuning in right now, Mariner's geek, what are
Speaker 1: you guys talking about? The spread was seven? Of course,
Speaker 1: Antonio p is going to kick the field goal to
Speaker 1: get it for me to please. Kelly mentioned that, and
Speaker 1: then o'dale says, hey, Gil, will they be moving the
Speaker 1: start of the World Series up since these teams were
Speaker 1: determined this weekend? Didn't someone say that was an option
Speaker 1: this year? I did say that except the option to
Speaker 1: make it earlier was if both championship series ended within
Speaker 1: five games. So because the National League actually ended in six,
Speaker 1: there is no moving up the World Series. It will
Speaker 1: actually start on the twenty fifth. It would have started tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had we gotten everything within five games.
Speaker 2: They put those rules in place.
Speaker 1: But then there's so it starts Friday night, in other words,
Speaker 1: instead of tomorrow, just.
Speaker 2: Because we have the one extra NBA style break. Almost well,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: By the way, about the Deshaun injury and the Achilles injury,
Speaker 1: which again, unlike with Aaron Rodgers, right, nobody is going
Speaker 1: to sit here and say, oh, I could play this year,
Speaker 1: because you can't because Aaron Rodgers' nuts. But the reaction
Speaker 1: by the crowd yesterday was what's the word deplorable. Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston had this to say.
Speaker 4: I'm grateful that I had a chance to serve the shun,
Speaker 4: but I am very upset with the reaction to a
Speaker 4: man that has had the world against him for the
Speaker 4: past four years, and he put his body and life
Speaker 4: on the line for this city every single day, regardless
Speaker 4: of your perception, regardless of what you should happen with him.
Speaker 4: He committed every single day that I've been here, to
Speaker 4: be the best that he can be for this team.
Speaker 1: And then Jamis licked his fingers, which I thought was
Speaker 1: odd after that, but uh no, listen. You could say
Speaker 1: what you want about the dramatic speech there by Jamis,
Speaker 1: but he's.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, he is right. He's right, a
Speaker 2: little dramatic, but yes, he is absolutely correct. It was
Speaker 2: even the stuff free game. It was it was wild
Speaker 2: watching that, like, hey, the Chubb just getting sheered on
Speaker 2: and Deshaun walks out and boot and I don't, I don't,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what Stefanski was thinking with the
Speaker 2: with the did you catch the whole quarterback stuff? Before
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: No, Jameis got moved to the third the emergency quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's why dtr got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there was all the questions, including coming from me,
Speaker 2: of like did you just not want to hear chance
Speaker 2: whole game about James getting in there like that? That
Speaker 2: was all weird, all weird.
Speaker 1: It's a brutal injury and he'll be out for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year and who knows how much after that?
Speaker 2: Yep, next, all right, sticking in the early window. Titans
Speaker 2: at Lions.
Speaker 1: Titans at Lions. Titans lose to the Bills. But it
Speaker 1: was interesting at first. First of all, Buffalo's first three
Speaker 1: and out Amari Cooper dropped a pass on third and one.
Speaker 2: We should say that.
Speaker 1: Three to nothing Tennessee and then Tennessee eight place seventy
Speaker 1: five yard drive. They were just taking Buffalo off the
Speaker 1: field with a couple three and outs. Early Tennessee eight
Speaker 1: play seventy five yard drive Rudolf to Westbrook a Kiene
Speaker 1: for four touchdown.
Speaker 2: Ten to nothing Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Oh could it be no? Buffalo? Next drive three play
Speaker 1: sixty one yards Allen to Keon Coleman from where Florida
Speaker 1: State forty four yards Cook for eleven touchdown ten to seven,
Speaker 1: and then Rudolph would fumble a snap. It was recovered
Speaker 1: by Terrell Bernard, but Buffalo couldn't do anything with it,
Speaker 1: and that's how it would be at the half ten
Speaker 1: to seven Tennessee. But then Tennessee the first time they
Speaker 1: had the ball in the third quarter. This was another
Speaker 1: one of these. Were in the moment, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah, fourth and two at your own
Speaker 1: forty four year up three points, they go for it.
Speaker 1: Pollard hit for a three yard loss and then the
Speaker 1: route was on.
Speaker 2: Just felt like the game stopped. It was over.
Speaker 1: Buffalo six plays, forty one yards, Alan to Cooper for
Speaker 1: twelve touchdown, Amari Cooper for Buffalo fourteen to ten.
Speaker 2: Bills did kids that play after the replay of Cooper
Speaker 2: not know what the play was, Oh no, yeah, can't.
Speaker 2: I had to kind of like tell them what to do.
Speaker 1: We got to seventeen to ten, and Buffalo to Cooper
Speaker 1: for twenty seven, then to Kinkaid for twenty five. Eventually
Speaker 1: Allen to Ty Johnson for four out first play the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, twenty four to ten. Rudolph would get picked
Speaker 1: by Tamar Hamlin that after Bass added a field goal,
Speaker 1: then Ray Davis from sixteen thirty four to ten Buffalo,
Speaker 1: a game where they spotted the Titans ten points and
Speaker 1: scored the next thirty four. Tennessee Rudolph Mason Rudolph, who
Speaker 1: got the start over Billy Levi's. They'll advise Billy Levi's
Speaker 1: twenty five of forty for two point fifteen. They were
Speaker 1: minus two in turnovers and they're at Detroit. Detroit who
Speaker 1: we talked about, who beat Minnesota. Ooh, this has got
Speaker 1: to be a big spread. Yeah, we haven't had many
Speaker 1: big spreads this year.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that added into this week as well.
Speaker 1: That is lack. We have lacked that this year as well.
Speaker 1: Spread let's say ten and a half, just to get
Speaker 1: frisky way and.
Speaker 2: You are light. We're up to eleven and a half
Speaker 2: in this one. Although I do believe it opened, it
Speaker 2: opened closer to where you had it.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of bad teams in this league.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Tennessee's bad or if they just
Speaker 1: have a bad quarterback play. Not that Mason Rudolph was
Speaker 1: as bad as Billy Levi's. He wasn't You know what?
Speaker 2: It's interesting you bring that up because I feel like
Speaker 2: I've gotten more arguments about this team for some reason,
Speaker 2: because I actually think they're really bad. But I it's
Speaker 2: some of this is impossible to tell without getting decent quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what, you know, who knows what
Speaker 1: happens if they don't go for that fourth and two.
Speaker 1: Maybe the game ends up the same way. We'll never know.
Speaker 2: Next all right, Sunday, early window Cardinals at the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Oh good. Arizona plays the Chargers tonight in the nightcap
Speaker 1: of the double header. A little Baltimore Tampa Bay Arizona
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers double header tonight. Do you have a
Speaker 1: play in either of these games?
Speaker 2: I've got Cardinals to close out two teasers and then
Speaker 2: I have them in my circum Million's better entry, So yes,
Speaker 2: Cardinals on I need Cardinals tonight. I could use them.
Speaker 1: Okay, you could use them. So Arizona sight unseen Miami,
Speaker 1: Miami loses Indianapolis. Miami actually led this game seven and nothing,
Speaker 1: eleven play, fifty eight yard drive Huntley to John Usmith
Speaker 1: from ten out on third and goal, seven and nothing Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and then Indianapolis would matriculate, and your guy, Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: second and gold. The Miami eight would fumble. Zach Sealer recovers,
Speaker 1: be ten to three. Miami at the half. Dolphin's gonna
Speaker 1: win one, right, No, Miami second second possession of the
Speaker 1: second half, first play, first intend of their own thirty
Speaker 1: eight most are hit by sagoon a Luby, fumbles recovered
Speaker 1: by a Luby. Indianapolis set up at the Miami twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Four plays Tyler Goodson and from seven. We are tied
Speaker 1: at ten, and then Miami would have the ball deep
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis territory, first and tent at the Indy thirteen
Speaker 1: alec Ingold, loved by many here at the network, hit
Speaker 1: by Zaire Franklin fumbles, Tavin Bryan recovers, so we're still
Speaker 1: ten to ten game. Then in the fourth quarter, Matt
Speaker 1: Gay would hit a chip shot twenty two yardfield goal
Speaker 1: to put the Colts up thirteen to ten. Then Miami
Speaker 1: would have a fourth and one at the Indianapolis thirty six.
Speaker 1: They decide we're gonna go. We're gonna roll Jason Sanders
Speaker 1: out there for a fifty four yard field goal. I
Speaker 1: didn't have any problem with that. Jason Sanders usually nails
Speaker 1: us Doyke off the left upright. No good, because that's
Speaker 1: how it's going for the Dolphins. Matt Gay would add
Speaker 1: a thirty eight yard field goal to make it sixteen
Speaker 1: to ten. By the way, Tim Boyle had to come
Speaker 1: into this game, Miami would get it to fourth and
Speaker 1: two at the Indianapolis thirty three. They're thirty three yards
Speaker 1: away from winning it, but they got to get two
Speaker 1: yards and Boyle throws it out of bounds like he
Speaker 1: didn't even know it was fourth down. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: see that? Yep, that was weird.
Speaker 2: I was expected better out of this Dolphins team. I
Speaker 2: actually thought they were gonna cut they were gonna show
Speaker 2: up out of the break.
Speaker 1: There is good news on the horizon though. Tua supposed
Speaker 1: to play next Yes, okay, so if Tua is playing,
Speaker 1: I've got this as Miami minus three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we're at three some three and a
Speaker 2: halves we are seeing as well.
Speaker 1: By the way, if he's not playing, it should be
Speaker 1: Arizona minus three.
Speaker 2: Like I do.
Speaker 1: I do think whatever your thoughts are about two at Taguailoa,
Speaker 1: it's probably a six point difference between me and the backup.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm i to it might be way better than
Speaker 2: I thought he was Gil because there's I think it's
Speaker 2: been shocking to see how how different this offense has
Speaker 2: looked without two. I thought this team against the Colts
Speaker 2: with with the bye week, with Huntley back there, Like
Speaker 2: I've got enough respect for Huntley that I thought they
Speaker 2: were going to come out of the out of that
Speaker 2: bye week and have a little bit better looking offense,
Speaker 2: and they can't get anything going.
Speaker 1: This is that I and I will say this again,
Speaker 1: I loved that in season hard knocks with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I've said it before last year and I thought, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Mike McDaniel, he's so entertaining, he's quirky,
Speaker 1: he's interesting to watch. They're in good hands. And then
Speaker 1: this year I have to say, there's there's so much
Speaker 1: stuff and this is this is part of that list
Speaker 1: that mount rushmore of things I thought I knew, which
Speaker 1: I know. He has not been good as a coach
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: I think it's the I think it's the most shocking
Speaker 2: dysfunctional team so far. Right like that does it just
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to anything's going right. Nobody's on the same page.
Speaker 2: And besides two of being out there's not much to
Speaker 2: explain it.
Speaker 1: That first performance against the Titans, that primetime game where
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley was not coached up at all, and people
Speaker 1: can say whatever they want, Oh it should be it's
Speaker 1: his first time. We've seen so many examples of guys
Speaker 1: showing up, Baker Mayfield with the Rams being a great
Speaker 1: example of that, of guys Cray, Josh Dobbs, off the
Speaker 1: street with the Vikings right where they perform well. And
Speaker 1: the fact that you couldn't get Tyler Huntley, by the way,
Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl. I just want to point that
Speaker 1: out somehow, the fact that you couldn't coach them up
Speaker 1: and then here they are again. They look they just
Speaker 1: look miserable. So we'll see what Tua can do. But
Speaker 1: you know, the Dolphins are now two and four heading
Speaker 1: into uh, heading into next week's season, that next week's game.
Speaker 2: Rather I should say yeah, And I feel it's say
Speaker 2: about this time of the season that I say this
Speaker 2: every year about a team, But the Colts have to
Speaker 2: be the worst four and three team of.
Speaker 1: All time, of it in the annals of NFL.
Speaker 2: You know, every year, Wow, there're four to three? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they are right, all right?
Speaker 1: I think they are Yeah, look at who they've beat. Yeah, three,
Speaker 1: four and three. We'll come back more guessing lines. I'm
Speaker 1: still looking for value. I don't really know if I
Speaker 1: love anything yet. We'll see back.
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Speaker 1: Does anybody think these Will Ferrell commercials are funny? By
Speaker 1: the way, Oh yeah about this?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I brought it up as soon as they
Speaker 2: started airing. You hadn't seen them yet, and I asked you,
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, I asked you, are these are these
Speaker 2: funny or really bad? Because my mind is just conditioned
Speaker 2: to laugh at anything Will Ferrell does.
Speaker 1: That's what they're counting on, and they're not funny at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go. So I thought we've diagnosed it.
Speaker 2: You and I dissect commercials better than.
Speaker 1: Anybody should do a podcast. Just second, we really.
Speaker 2: Should, really should.
Speaker 1: I don't have good ideas episode that's the problem. How
Speaker 1: many episodes you think we should get we would get
Speaker 1: through before we're like, well, we did them all, We
Speaker 1: did them all.
Speaker 2: Well, you could do it once every like what you know,
Speaker 2: once a quarter, once every six months, dissecting the commercials
Speaker 2: with Kelly by the I think like a whole fourteen
Speaker 2: people would listen. But yeah, all right, all right, keep
Speaker 2: on moving. Early window on Sunday Jets That pictureots AF
Speaker 2: Jets at Patriots. Something's gotta give.
Speaker 1: The Jets. Did you see this last night. So last
Speaker 1: night we had Sunday Night Football, same time as Game
Speaker 1: six of the NLCS. Dodgers beat the Mets, same time
Speaker 1: as w NBA Final Game five, the decider.
Speaker 2: There we go, Liberty, there we go refs. I should say,
Speaker 2: good job Liberty and refs.
Speaker 1: That were off. You don't think that should have been
Speaker 1: a foul?
Speaker 2: I was very men. Yeah. Yeah, for the closing play
Speaker 2: in the WNBA finals, yeah, I wouldn't have blown that whistle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Breonna Stuart saves herself because she missed two free throws
Speaker 1: eighty three percent free throw shooter. She misses, to remember
Speaker 1: she missed one earlier in the series that cost them.
Speaker 1: She gets a reprieve. She hits two. It goes to overtime,
Speaker 1: and the Liberty are your WNBA champions for the first
Speaker 1: time ever and they're an original.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: So what percentage of time did you spend on each
Speaker 1: of these? Would you say?
Speaker 2: Oh, great question. I mean I watched the bulk of
Speaker 2: that WNBA game. I kind of was into the WNBA game,
Speaker 2: but that was a consequence that was also easier where
Speaker 2: it started before the others, right, and it's a shorter game.
Speaker 1: I'm saying though, when it went it was down the
Speaker 1: stretch of regulation in overtime, and you still had baseball.
Speaker 1: Baseball was kind of done. The Dodgers were crushing them,
Speaker 1: Mets were still feisty, don't get me wrong, But then
Speaker 1: there was the football game. Where was your attention? Not
Speaker 1: more on the WNBA game. WNBA was center screen volume up,
Speaker 1: me too. We owe it all to Caiton Clark. Sorry, Angel,
Speaker 1: It's true. Okay, Jets last night, this was pretty fascinating.
Speaker 1: Steelers go up three to nothing on a Boswell forty
Speaker 1: six yard field goal. Then it's a bunch of trade
Speaker 1: offs there. Jets get the ball nine plays, eighty two yards,
Speaker 1: five point forty one off the clock, haul from thirteen
Speaker 1: seven to three. Jets late first quarter and Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: now in the next sort of drive or there was.
Speaker 1: They traded a couple three and outs, but on one
Speaker 1: of those three and ounts, he threw two horrific passes,
Speaker 1: two horrific passes, to the point where out loud, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what is Mike. Mike Tomlin is giving
Speaker 1: this game to the Jets, right, He can't be this bad,
Speaker 1: I know, Mike Tomlin's trying to figure out what he
Speaker 1: has at quarterback. My god, Literally, within a span of
Speaker 1: one game, I went from that sentiment to Wow, this's
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, guys and knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's incredible. It's incredible, kind of ragged about it.
Speaker 2: Posted incredible. Man like this guy, It's always Steeler's magic man.
Speaker 2: It just continues.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Wilson. He ends up throwing this deep ball
Speaker 1: to Pickings for forty four. It ends up being seven
Speaker 1: to six Jets. This is still the first half. Then
Speaker 1: Rogers to Breese for fifty seven to the three. Three
Speaker 1: plays later, Rogers to Tyler Conklin from one out. When
Speaker 1: Ulbrick dropped the challenge flag before he could throw it
Speaker 1: to challenge the second doll, Breese all run and Rogers,
Speaker 1: like you know, the great guy that he is, like,
Speaker 1: throws it back in just this arrogant fashion at him.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, Aaron, stop it. Thirteen to six the Jets.
Speaker 1: And by the way, then they call leverage on mink
Speaker 1: of Fitzpatrick on the extra point, so it went to
Speaker 1: the one. Then they went for two. That goes to
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, so it was fifteen to six jets. Can
Speaker 1: I just say real quick on that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was a garbage call, but like, that's
Speaker 2: really hard to call if you're the rest.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you bring this up. Chris collins Worth.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I got a tweet from somebody
Speaker 1: yesterday's like, are Chris collins Worth and Russell Wilson dating?
Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth and Tariko also were losing their minds,
Speaker 1: right because the who's a Terry McCauley is the sort
Speaker 1: of ref consultant, the official consultant there. They were all
Speaker 1: losing their minds. They called this leverage on Minka Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: You can't the officials should not be burdened with determining
Speaker 1: the force with which he touched those blairs.
Speaker 2: That's a call every time. What are they talking about?
Speaker 2: This is the WNBA foul all over again, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know there was touching going on it.
Speaker 1: Oh, just because it's Meka Fitzpatrick and he's awesome. You
Speaker 1: were not gonna call that, like, come on anyway, fifteen
Speaker 1: to six they call it and correct. So, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't care what any of them say. And here's
Speaker 1: the key to the whole game. So the Jets are
Speaker 1: up nine with the ball. Jets are up nine with
Speaker 1: the ball, they have a double dip opportunity. This whole
Speaker 1: game is in the Jets control and Aaron Rodgers on
Speaker 1: second and fourth their own thirty six Rogers is picked
Speaker 1: by Beanie Bishop Junior, which led to a short four
Speaker 1: play fifty four yard Steeler drive that took forty eight
Speaker 1: seconds Wilson to Pickens for eleven, fifteen to thirteen. We
Speaker 1: go to the half, and you could sense from there
Speaker 1: right like the whole game had shifted, by the way,
Speaker 1: at fifteen to six, the Steelers would score the next
Speaker 1: thirty one points unanswered, and that was the first of them.
Speaker 1: We go to the second half, Steelers get a field goal,
Speaker 1: make it sixteen to fifteen, and then the Jets second
Speaker 1: and ten at their own twenty three Rogers pass bounces
Speaker 1: off Garrett Wilson picked by Beanie Bishop again forty one
Speaker 1: yard return to the Jets one yard line. By the way,
Speaker 1: Xavier Newman had to be stabilized and carted off on
Speaker 1: that play. He did have a feeling in his extremities
Speaker 1: before we got off this broadcast, So that was good
Speaker 1: to hear Wilson in from one twenty three to fifteen
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh halfway through the third quarter. Then the Jets would
Speaker 1: have a fourth in one of the Pittsburgh thirty two.
Speaker 1: They would advance that, but then Zerline would have his
Speaker 1: field goal attempt blocked by Dean Lowry, so would stay
Speaker 1: twenty three to fifteen. Pittsburg would turn right around. Eleven
Speaker 1: plays seventy five yards Wilson and Jefferson from four out
Speaker 1: thirty to fifteen, and then the Jets on fourth and
Speaker 1: five at the Pittsburgh twenty five Rogers pass was batted
Speaker 1: down Pittsburgh then, so is seven fifty three left in
Speaker 1: the game. It's thirty to fifteen. Todd Wishnev my buddy
Speaker 1: has total passing attempts in this game over forty and
Speaker 1: a half, over forty and a half. At this point
Speaker 1: there are forty with seven fifty three left in the
Speaker 1: game and the Steelers up fifteen. So you figure to yourself, well,
Speaker 1: eventually the Steelers will get stopped, and you know Rogers
Speaker 1: will have to throw the ball around the yard. Guess
Speaker 1: what Steelers never get stopped? Thirteen plays seventy five yards.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson never throws the ball. The Jets defense knows
Speaker 1: all they're gonna get are runs and they cannot stop it.
Speaker 1: It's like a nineteen eighty two Rigo drill. They could
Speaker 1: not stop it, and wish Nev impossibly loses his prop bet.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Hush him. Thirty seven to fifteen. Pittsburgh. By
Speaker 1: the way, nause In from ten Rogers was twenty four
Speaker 1: to thirty nine for two seventy six in defeat in
Speaker 1: this game. We'll get to Pittsburgh a little later on
Speaker 1: because I gotta praise Mike Tomlin a little more later.
Speaker 1: With this Russell Wilson thing. The Patriots. You see this
Speaker 1: London game. This was another one of these games. The
Speaker 1: Patriots were spotted ten points. It was ten to nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling my Patriots plus six, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm a genius. I'm so smart.
Speaker 1: I never score. I mean what they would score a
Speaker 1: garbage touchdown in the end, right, thirty two points in
Speaker 1: a row for the Jaguars. Pardon me, they may. They
Speaker 1: would get twenty five points in a row to make
Speaker 1: it twenty five to twenty five to ten. The Patriots
Speaker 1: would get a straight drive out of nowhere late made
Speaker 1: a Henry for thirty two, Kaishan Boute for thirty three,
Speaker 1: and then a kJ Osmore for twenty two to cut
Speaker 1: the lead two point try would fail to cut the
Speaker 1: lead of twenty five to sixteen, and then would actually
Speaker 1: get the ball back with the back door open, but
Speaker 1: then fourth and twenty six at their own ten incomplete
Speaker 1: by the way, Bigsby would score from there for the
Speaker 1: final score thirty two to sixteen. So it's another one
Speaker 1: of these strange games where a team like the Titans, right,
Speaker 1: same thing, a team got spotted points and then they
Speaker 1: just laid down like sleeping.
Speaker 2: Dogs the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was one of men, Jared Girodmeo after
Speaker 1: the game, calling his own team soft May twenty six
Speaker 1: of thirty seven for two seventy six. But so much
Speaker 1: of that was that one drive.
Speaker 2: At the end.
Speaker 1: It was a one seventy one to thirty eight rushing
Speaker 1: advantage for Jacksonville over New England. So this is the
Speaker 1: Jets at New England. I still have to make it
Speaker 1: Jets like a sizeable amount. I say, Jets minus six
Speaker 1: and a half. Is that too much?
Speaker 2: That is not too much? Shut up? To seven. Now,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I always think I'm gonna be wrong
Speaker 2: the other way. The two in five Jets against the
Speaker 2: one in six Patriots. Gosh, there's only one way I
Speaker 2: could bet that game. And I don't think I can
Speaker 2: bring myself to I can't do it, Againtriots.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it again. And by the way, Drawd Mayo, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he thinks that's going to accomplish
Speaker 1: by calling his team soft? Does he think? Does he
Speaker 1: think his players were like, Oh, I'm so glad he
Speaker 1: called me out. I gotta try now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I were talking about it a bit
Speaker 2: during a break. But some of these, like star linebacker
Speaker 2: turned coaches, I get a little scared of, Like like
Speaker 2: Drod Mayo expects his defense to be as good as
Speaker 2: he was when he was a player, and it's like,
Speaker 2: don you were really good, man, Like you were really good.
Speaker 1: This was when Magic Johnson used to say about why
Speaker 1: he hated being a coach. He's like, well, I realized they're.
Speaker 2: Not me right exactly, Like, yeah, that's gotta be tough.
Speaker 2: It has to be.
Speaker 1: We got probably could have told Magic back going into it,
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story. H we'll come back more.
Speaker 1: We get a whole bunch more to get to at
Speaker 1: hour number two, looking for value guessing lines right here
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Speaker 2: The numbers told the story always doing. It's one of
Speaker 2: those idiots who believe in analytics.
Speaker 3: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander.
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Speaker 1: It's Kelly Midland, producer number nine, so much more than
Speaker 1: a producer. We're trying to look for value in week
Speaker 1: eight lines. I'm not sure if I've found any yet.
Speaker 2: I've made a few bets, but we haven't gotten any
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 1: Games, which is a contrast to the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks where I've liked everything which served me well twice,
Speaker 1: but not so much this past week. We get tweets
Speaker 1: at beating the book trip tepper Gil By any chance,
Speaker 1: do you know of fashion status who can give capre
Speaker 1: panted Michael McDaniel Mike McDaniel makeover if he's going to
Speaker 1: coach this poorly. Maybe a fashion reboot is the perfect
Speaker 1: smoke screen. I believe I called this one Kelly that
Speaker 1: as soon as the Dolphins were bad, people would turn
Speaker 1: on him with his quirkiness. I should say Robert Valori
Speaker 1: is not happy with me, he said, Gil, I was
Speaker 1: there talk about Cleveland. That's a bunch of bs. When
Speaker 1: it happened, yes, there was some cheers. Obviously he's not
Speaker 1: the most loved brown ever. But when the cart came
Speaker 1: out he got placed on it. Of course we cheered.
Speaker 1: I believe that is standard protocol. We'll good for you guys,
Speaker 1: as it should be. I'm just going by what Jamison
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett said. That's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Bobby knuckles, Oh, Bobby knuckles at the ROBEO. Gill's power
Speaker 1: ranking drops again as we find out he has a
Speaker 1: fracture in his funny bone, officially listed on the injury report.
Speaker 1: The PayPal Everywhere commercial with Will Ferrell is a joy
Speaker 1: and hilarious.
Speaker 2: See it's not that funny, he says, I'm on team
Speaker 2: Kelly Bidlin here.
Speaker 1: Did you think it was hilarious?
Speaker 2: How I bull like? I find myself chuckling like it's
Speaker 2: one of those like I can't help it. That's why
Speaker 2: I first, That's why I first brought it up the
Speaker 2: way I did with it.
Speaker 1: Darn right. I'm on the injury report for that one
Speaker 1: three Jack aged three one three one. Will Ferrell TV
Speaker 1: commercials totally not funny. Thank you for Jack. Too many
Speaker 1: trained seals out they're clapping on command. Keeps him in
Speaker 1: the spotlight. Dissecting commercials sounds like an amazing podcast. What
Speaker 1: about Delicious and Antonio as Megapod guests hashtag ratings? See
Speaker 1: if we can get them booth on it. Good friend,
Speaker 1: chillionaire Will Ferrell needs some janky cell phones in his
Speaker 1: commercials for laughs.
Speaker 2: See that's a call back as a callback to another
Speaker 2: one of our commercial takedowns. I don't even remember what
Speaker 2: it was, T mobile or something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, Jesse Welch. Once again, it was
Speaker 1: another great Megapod. Just wanted to say I appreciated the
Speaker 1: shout out for the Thursday no touchdown scorer play. However,
Speaker 1: I can confirm that there was indeed a touchdown score.
Speaker 1: Yes there was. Todd Hoyer cheering an injury is deplorable,
Speaker 1: but changing the narrative that somehow the fans of the
Speaker 1: villains in this whole thing because of a few jerks
Speaker 1: in the stands. Here is something given the circumstances that
Speaker 1: we all well know, Todd, no one's changing the damn narrative.
Speaker 1: Let's hold two thoughts in our heads at the same time,
Speaker 1: for God's sakes, Todd, Come on, no one's changing the narrative.
Speaker 1: We're just saying just because one thing is true doesn't
Speaker 1: mean the other should happen. Torch d Hey tuning into
Speaker 1: ang late this morning, and he wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: someone blamed you for the World Series matchup. It is
Speaker 1: totally my fault. It is totally my fault. I've already
Speaker 1: blamed myself. But thank you, George d.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 1: That's me and Charlie d Usa number one, he says.
Speaker 1: The Jets get Riddick finally signed. Maybe this is balance
Speaker 1: that will the balance that will revive their season. That
Speaker 1: with the second week of Adams Rogers chemistry, that's a
Speaker 1: good positive spin on it.
Speaker 2: That's a way to look at that. Glasses half full.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, I want to keep rolling. Yes,
Speaker 1: please early window falcons at Bucks. Such your way of
Speaker 1: saying we better get to keep rolling.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of games.
Speaker 1: Get whatever bucks play tonight. They play the Ravens tonight.
Speaker 1: First of the two, Atlanta loses to Seattle. Seattle down
Speaker 1: ten to nothing on a Kenneth Walker the third twenty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass to make it a touchdown run to
Speaker 1: make it ten to nothing Seattle. Early second quarter, Atlanta
Speaker 1: came right back bejon in from five on a nine
Speaker 1: play seventy yard drive ten to seven Seattle. Later Seattle
Speaker 1: six play sixty eight yards Geno to dk for thirty
Speaker 1: one touchdown, seventeen to seven. At the half. Third quarter,
Speaker 1: here come the Falcons. Fourteen play seventy nine yards Cousins
Speaker 1: to Drake London for five on fourth and one, seventeen
Speaker 1: to fourteen, and you're thinking, maybe this is going to
Speaker 1: be a competitive football game.
Speaker 2: Maybe not.
Speaker 1: Seattle nine plays sixty three yards Gino to Walker for
Speaker 1: seventeen touchdown twenty four to fourteen Seattle.
Speaker 2: And then Atlanta down.
Speaker 1: Ten, third and nine at the Seattle forty eight Cousins
Speaker 1: sacked by Boye Mafe, fumbles Derek Hall sixty four yards
Speaker 1: scoop and score thirty one to fourteen. Next time Cousins
Speaker 1: had the ball fourth and one at the Seattle thirty
Speaker 1: eight pick by Julian Love that led to a Myers
Speaker 1: fifty nine yard field goal to make it thirty four
Speaker 1: to fourteen. There is your ball game, Seattle getting it
Speaker 1: done DK. By the way, DK Metcalf was carted off
Speaker 1: in this game. They're hoping for the best though with DK.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the early. Early reports is
Speaker 2: that it's not too bad.
Speaker 1: But well boy, there was one more Cousins pick by
Speaker 1: the way to Kobe Bryant later in this game Cousins
Speaker 1: twenty four to thirty five for two thirty two, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: two picks who sacked three times, but the turnovers were
Speaker 1: everything here Atlanta at Tampa Bay sight unseen with the Bucks.
Speaker 1: I'll make the Bucks a three and a half point favorite. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in the hook.
Speaker 2: So this is one that I got in front of
Speaker 2: a bit two and a half. You know, we haven't
Speaker 2: seen the Bucks play tonight, but I took a little
Speaker 2: bit of Bucks at two and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: There are some threes flipping out there now, but it
Speaker 2: is two and a half for the most part.
Speaker 1: Bucceteers good football team. They were my tenth in power Rings.
Speaker 1: By the way, poweringk is gonna have to change this
Speaker 1: week with the Niners. But I mean, if you look
Speaker 1: at the what the Bucks have done it with their
Speaker 1: four and two record, they should be five and one, right,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have lost that game to Atlanta earlier. They've
Speaker 1: beaten some good football teams too. It's a good I
Speaker 1: think the Buccaneers are better than the Falcons two and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean there's a I don't have a bet
Speaker 2: in that game tonight. Would I be shocked if the
Speaker 2: Bucks got just destroyed by by Lamar Jackson the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I kind of hope they do. For this spread here, well,
Speaker 1: I was say, not like I wouldn't be shocked if
Speaker 1: that happened, but you could easily see two and a
Speaker 1: half three pop again.
Speaker 2: But if the Bucks go on win this game, it's
Speaker 2: probably over three at that point. So it's got more
Speaker 2: where you added at Next, Packers at Jags.
Speaker 1: Packers beat the Texans, but don't cover much of the
Speaker 1: chagrin of many of us. Green Bay third and three
Speaker 1: at the at midfield. Third and three at midfield, Love
Speaker 1: picked off a deflection by nevill Hewitt. Houston set up
Speaker 1: at the green Bay eleven, they had to settle for a
Speaker 1: fairbar in twenty three yardfield will only three to nothing Houston,
Speaker 1: even though they got the ball at the eleven yard
Speaker 1: line Houston, green Bay. The next time they would get
Speaker 1: the ball, actually two times later, they would get the
Speaker 1: ball thirteen plays, ninety two yards love to Tucker Kraft
Speaker 1: for fourteen and the Packers led at early second quarter
Speaker 1: seven to three. Then Houston would have a three and out,
Speaker 1: but Tommy Townsend's punt hit Corey Ballentine and MJ. Stewart
Speaker 1: recovered it. So they were set up at the green
Speaker 1: Bay eleven again two plays later, mixing in from two,
Speaker 1: this time ten to seven Texans. So think about it,
Speaker 1: all ten of their points at this point, well, actually
Speaker 1: the first field goal, Yeah, all ten of them were
Speaker 1: set up by green Bay turnovers. Each time at the
Speaker 1: eleven yard line they get a field goal in a
Speaker 1: touchdown ten to seven Houston. Then green Bay would go
Speaker 1: six play seventy yards love to Dantevian Wicks for thirty
Speaker 1: touchdown fourteen to ten. Packers. Eight fifty one left second
Speaker 1: quarter Fairbairn field goal fifty two yard would make at
Speaker 1: fourteen to thirteen, and then the next time green Bay
Speaker 1: would get the ball after the field goal. In suing drive,
Speaker 1: first play love picked by Kaylin Bullock, Houston set up
Speaker 1: at their own forty five. They go five plays fifty
Speaker 1: five yards, mix it in from four set up by
Speaker 1: Nixon for thirty two earlier on the drive nineteen fourteen,
Speaker 1: Houston two point trive fails. That's the halftime score. Third quarter,
Speaker 1: green Bay's first touch of the ball nine play, seventy
Speaker 1: one yard They love to Jacobs for eight touchdown. They
Speaker 1: retake the lead twenty one to nineteen. By the way,
Speaker 1: that is Josh Jacob's first career receiving touchdown.
Speaker 2: Incredible. It is two hundred and eleventh catch. That's wild.
Speaker 2: I did not know that when they scored, when he scored,
Speaker 2: and they said I had no idea.
Speaker 1: They couldn't wait to unleash.
Speaker 2: That's then.
Speaker 1: And then okay, so what is it? Twenty one to nineteen.
Speaker 1: Fair barn would get a thirty five yard field goal
Speaker 1: way later here with one forty four left in the game,
Speaker 1: to make it twenty two to twenty one, and then
Speaker 1: green Bay would get it into Brandon McManus field goal
Speaker 1: range that got rid of Brandon Narvis and or at
Speaker 1: least they pushed him to the side for a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and McManus forty five yardfield goal good, but a timeout
Speaker 1: called by Demico Ryans try to ice him. He has
Speaker 1: to make it again, and he does. Winner, green Bay
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty two. But like I said, they
Speaker 1: did not cover the spread. Love twenty four of thirty
Speaker 1: three for two to twenty. The Packers held the Texans
Speaker 1: to one hundred and ninety seven total yards, and they
Speaker 1: were minus three in turnovers and still with a turnover,
Speaker 1: still managed to win. Obviously held Houston's offense in check,
Speaker 1: but couldn't get the cover. This is one of these
Speaker 1: final scores that if you just know the final score
Speaker 1: will be totally misleading. Green Bay dominated this football game,
Speaker 1: it is, but the.
Speaker 2: Like Love's a tough quarterback right now, right because he
Speaker 2: is man, he is good. But he turned it over
Speaker 2: a lot, and they are costly turn it over.
Speaker 1: See, I shouldn't say they dominated, but they created their
Speaker 1: own issues. Houston really was lucky to beat Houston. It's
Speaker 1: a fortunate cover for those who are.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, but what you said is right. I just
Speaker 2: think Love with with going forward. It's a it's a
Speaker 2: team that has so much talent. I don't I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much my trust level, how much
Speaker 2: it can get there with fully with this team.
Speaker 1: They're at Jacksonville. Jacksonville who we had talked about, beat
Speaker 1: New England in London. There's on their back to back
Speaker 1: London games. Lawrence Trevor Lawrence was fifteen of twenty for
Speaker 1: one ninety three tank bigsby twenty six for one, eighteen
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns, and again they out rushed New England
Speaker 1: one seventy one to thirty eight. Some of those rushing
Speaker 1: yards were from Ernest Johnson from our Atlanta studios.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of tweets. I say it every
Speaker 2: time they say it, I say it trying to trying
Speaker 2: to replicate you. And then every time I just think, nah,
Speaker 2: we just skill was here right now it's not good enough.
Speaker 1: I think green Bay minus three and a half am
Speaker 1: I low?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is four and a half five right yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Nothing nothing there.
Speaker 1: For me, like hopeful a hopeful guest.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville is like Jacksonville's tough to figure out too with
Speaker 2: like you know, the was it two wins in a
Speaker 2: row right in London, and you can sit there and say, man,
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas and take Bigsby like you found these guys
Speaker 2: out of know where. They look good.
Speaker 1: But if green Bay won that by three touchdowns, would
Speaker 1: would you be surprised? If Jacksonville won, would you be shot?
Speaker 2: It's a game I will be staying away from.
Speaker 1: Next all right?
Speaker 2: Next up we have the cold set Texans.
Speaker 1: All right, Definitely c J. Stroud is hampered without Nico Collins.
Speaker 1: He only completed ten forward passes in this game against
Speaker 1: green Bay, ten of twenty one for eighty six yards.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Did I transcribe that correctly?
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon twenty five for one to fifteen and two touchdowns. Again,
Speaker 1: only one hundred and ninety seven total yards. Should be
Speaker 1: pointed out that green Bay only had two seventy seven too,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like they got completely rolled. But plus
Speaker 1: three in turnovers made all the difference in that game,
Speaker 1: even though they lose. Nonetheless, Indianapolis at Houston, we talked
Speaker 1: about Indianapolis beating the Dolphins. They're better off with Flacco,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be ar Houston minus six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is you're about dead on right now. I'm
Speaker 2: just checking you updated six six and a half is
Speaker 2: what we're seeing out there right now on Texans. I
Speaker 2: bet this at five and a half on the opener
Speaker 2: and hit it pretty aggressively. This is Texans, I hear you.
Speaker 2: They're struggling. Different team, different offense without Nico Collins. This
Speaker 2: Colts team I have.
Speaker 1: Colts aren't good.
Speaker 2: I have no trust in. I think this is a
Speaker 2: Houston get home, get right spot against a bad Colds team,
Speaker 2: especially if.
Speaker 1: It's your guyar. Yeah, call him by way, should stop
Speaker 1: calling him your guyar auto care.
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny for the whole season. Yeah, never
Speaker 2: not funny.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely with you on the Bucks. If that's two
Speaker 1: and a half, yeah for sure. We'll come back looking
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Speaker 1: I want to point out, I says, man, with this
Speaker 1: break intol the World Series, it's almost as if it
Speaker 1: would be a perfect time for MLB to announce the
Speaker 1: regular season awards.
Speaker 2: Great tweet by Jesse.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true, very true. Yet you know you'll be, uh,
Speaker 1: you'll be thinking about turkey and stuffing by the time
Speaker 1: he's come around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that Bengals lined up to three at trafficks.
Speaker 1: The Bengals line is three.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are three point favorites now against the Eagles. Okay,
Speaker 1: when I guessed one and a half, I was worried
Speaker 1: that I had the wrong team favored. Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: you're telling me it's the Bengals minus three. Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: let's dissect that a little bit. Why why do you
Speaker 1: think that's the case.
Speaker 2: Just the Philadelphia struggles, I guess, is what is being
Speaker 2: looked at the most.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the Bengals just they just beat the Browns
Speaker 1: without their start say what you will again, right, without
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback. Let me just say this about Deshan
Speaker 1: the last full game of football. So his first half
Speaker 1: this week and his second half last week, I think
Speaker 1: he was twenty six of twenty eight or something like that. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make up for all the other stuff. They're
Speaker 1: the worst third down team in football all there.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: They were horrific. But I'm just saying, like the Bengals
Speaker 1: didn't do anything spectacular.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm with you. I I can only look Eagles.
Speaker 2: There no interesting all right, first game of the late
Speaker 2: window for a five Eastern Saints at Chargers.
Speaker 1: All right, Saint's gonna come off the extra rest here
Speaker 1: and the Chargers are gonna have short rest. So this
Speaker 1: is a big rest advantage for the Saints. But it
Speaker 1: is still Spencer Rattler, Spencer Rattler who comes off the
Speaker 1: horrific loss to Denver on Thursday night. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If it was left to me, I would make this
Speaker 1: one thing, but I already know what the Charges. We
Speaker 1: do this every week. Now. The market likes the Chargers
Speaker 1: better than I did.
Speaker 2: It's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Chargers have got to be based on
Speaker 1: that by the deduction here, they got to be like
Speaker 1: a six point favorite or something, even though we haven't
Speaker 1: haven't played yet, it.
Speaker 2: Is seven and a half most places. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I just saw a circle who just went to eight
Speaker 2: and a half on this game. Okay eight and a half?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, if they play badly tonight, how far does that
Speaker 1: line sink? But I get I mean, the Saints were terrible.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: It's question, but.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's I mean, maybe maybe this has been the
Speaker 1: week where I think my guesses are wrong on one
Speaker 1: side and I find out that they're wrong on the
Speaker 1: completely different side of things.
Speaker 2: Cool. Just wait, Oh there's more. Okay, what's next?
Speaker 1: Not that I'm rushing to bet the Saints here, I
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 2: Say that Bills and Seahawks. Oh you're singing it with
Speaker 2: a twinkle in your eyes. That's it. This is it?
Speaker 1: Ye, Buffalo, as we talked about, beat the Titans after
Speaker 1: spotting him ten points, then they just rolled them Alan
Speaker 1: twenty one of thirty three for three, twenty three, Keon
Speaker 1: Coleman four for one to twenty five. Cooper in his
Speaker 1: debut Amari four for sixty six in a touchdown, they
Speaker 1: are plus two and turnovers. And then Seattle in their
Speaker 1: win over Atlanta GINO eighteen for twenty eight for two
Speaker 1: oh seven, DK four for ninety nine, they were plus
Speaker 1: three and turnovers in that game. All Right, my guess
Speaker 1: was I split the difference between. Here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: think Buffalo's good, right, Buffalo's at the bottom, towards the
Speaker 1: bottom of my top ten. Seattle's right on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in. This is a home game for the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: so I gave Buffalo their due respect. I mean it's
Speaker 1: I split the difference. I said, Seattle minus one and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: Bill's minus three. Wow, But I am way off. Best
Speaker 2: part about this one, Gil, I bet it. You bet
Speaker 2: which I bet? Buffalo?
Speaker 1: I laid three, you laid three one.
Speaker 2: I don't know which way this is gonna move, but
Speaker 2: I was okay with Land three because that Seattle team,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I've got them figured
Speaker 2: out a bit. I'm sure that will come back to
Speaker 2: bite me in the butt. But uh, I liked them yesterday.
Speaker 2: Because Atlanta has no pass rush, they get to sit
Speaker 2: back there and do whatever they want against no pass rush.
Speaker 2: I think the Bills are gonna be a little bit
Speaker 2: different if DK, if Metcalf misses this game, like that
Speaker 2: is huge. So I laid the three. Okay, I was
Speaker 2: surprised you had this.
Speaker 1: Guess I'll take Seattle plus three.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think this might be the
Speaker 2: first time I can remember me. You might be heads up.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is like, again, I got
Speaker 1: the Bills one and eight or something like that. But
Speaker 1: and so I just thought I was adjusting it properly
Speaker 1: for home field to give the Bills the respect. But
Speaker 1: you're making the Bills. So are you saying that if
Speaker 1: the Bills were at home against the Seahawks they would
Speaker 1: be nine point favorites?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I don't know if i'd I don't
Speaker 2: know if i'd give that much to a home field.
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, make it seven and a half, right, yeah? Really, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I think they'd be I think they should be in
Speaker 2: that area.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't come on really, Yeah, okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Next all right, Next up, we have Panthers at Broncos. Pah,
Speaker 2: there's a Broncos. Oh god, Okay, gotta say this.
Speaker 1: About the Panthers game yesterday and Washington, so we haven't
Speaker 1: gone through that game, Carolin, How this game got out
Speaker 1: of hand forty to seven. The Taco Holders beat care Carolina.
Speaker 1: Carolina had a third to nine at the Washington twenty five.
Speaker 1: To start things, they were matriculating the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: Dalton picked six Dante Fowler Junior's sixty seven yards to
Speaker 1: the house seven and nothing, Skins Carolina three and out
Speaker 1: Washington Daniels for forty six yards to start the drive. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the play where he hurt
Speaker 1: his ribs, but that's how he started the drive. Forty
Speaker 1: six yards led to a cyber twenty three yard field
Speaker 1: goal to make it ten to nothing. But Daniels went
Speaker 1: to the locker room at that point for X rays,
Speaker 1: never to return. And the reason he never returned because
Speaker 1: there's no reason to return. Next possession for Carolina. Dalton
Speaker 1: picked by Emmanuel Forbes Junior. That's why they drafted him
Speaker 1: for He's supposed to be a turnover machine. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen that, but he gets one there. Washington set up
Speaker 1: at the Carolina forty five with Marcus Mariota now is
Speaker 1: their quarterback I look out to Recols pronounces the Hawaiian
Speaker 1: tea there for Mariota Carolina. By the way, it's a
Speaker 1: three and half for Washington with Carolina three and out
Speaker 1: because Frankie Luvu doing his thing with a sack. Washington
Speaker 1: up ten to nothing, four plays fifty nine yards. The
Speaker 1: PI defensive PI a big thing here, Robinson in from
Speaker 1: eight seventeen to nothing. Skins Carolina fourth and one at
Speaker 1: their own forty Hubbard hit for a two yard loss
Speaker 1: by Dante Fowler Junior that led to a field goal
Speaker 1: twenty to nothing. Then the next time Washington touched the
Speaker 1: ball eight plays ninety two yards to mclauren for eighteen,
Speaker 1: to McLaurin for fifteen incomparable to Diami for twenty three,
Speaker 1: to Ertz for twelve. Twenty seven and nothing at the half.
Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers are the most no account football team
Speaker 1: I have seen in the last five years. Yep, oh
Speaker 1: my god, are they bad. By the way, Skins would
Speaker 1: get up Mariota to Ben Sinnett touchdown to make it
Speaker 1: thirty four to nothing, and then it was thirty seven
Speaker 1: and nothing anyway, forty to seven because they would get
Speaker 1: a garbage touchdown, Carolina would from a Chuba Hubbard Bryce
Speaker 1: got in. Bryce's line was interesting two for two for
Speaker 1: minus four yards. See that Dalton was eleven of sixteen
Speaker 1: for ninety three. It was a four to twenty one
Speaker 1: to one eighty total yards disadvantage for Carolina. They're at Denver.
Speaker 1: Denver's got to be a sid I'm probably low. The
Speaker 1: more I talk, the more I talked about this, the
Speaker 1: more I'm working myself up into this is crazy. I
Speaker 1: only have it at six and a half. It's got
Speaker 1: to be higher than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on the other side. It is seven and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: That's I like that line better. Actually, Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: the actual line and.
Speaker 2: I might be teasing Denver. Yeah, that feels it's actually
Speaker 2: been really interested in this game. Watched the total movement.
Speaker 2: It has been getting bet up, bet up better, and
Speaker 2: then it's hit forty four a couple places and under
Speaker 2: money has clearly come in.
Speaker 1: You don't think that's that Seattle thing. You don't think
Speaker 1: You don't think Mike McDonald will scheme up something for
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I'm sure he'll try to. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he has the pieces right now. I think he's
Speaker 1: got the pieces. All right, that's interesting. All right, So
Speaker 1: Denver is higher than a seven point favorite. I think
Speaker 1: that's probably more accurate.
Speaker 2: All right. Four to twenty five. Eastern Chiefs at Raiders,
Speaker 2: Chiefs Niners.
Speaker 1: That's it. Chiefs Final undefeated, twenty eight to eighteen. They
Speaker 1: beat the Niners. They start out the game by forcing
Speaker 1: a three and out. That was the Niners sixth Only
Speaker 1: they're sixth, three and out of the entire year for
Speaker 1: the Niners. Again, Casey tried to fake fourth and two
Speaker 1: at their own forty four. It failed, and you're like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? San Francisco first play after that,
Speaker 1: party picked by Justin Reid. This was not a good
Speaker 1: game for brock Purty, as much as we praised him
Speaker 1: on some of these other games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an awful game.
Speaker 1: He was not forced a lot here. Casey second and
Speaker 1: fifteen after that at their own twenty at the San
Speaker 1: Francisco twenty four, Mahomes was picked by Khalia Davis, who
Speaker 1: tipped it to himself. Anyways, it was a bit of
Speaker 1: a turnover fest early three to nothing San Francisco. Later
Speaker 1: then Casey went seven play seventy yards hunt in from
Speaker 1: one seven to three, then Iyu could dropped a short
Speaker 1: third down conversion, so Ayuk wasn't helping party on that one.
Speaker 1: Nicole Hardman then returned to the wishnowskip on fifty five yards.
Speaker 1: That's set up a short field. Kansas City seven plays
Speaker 1: thirty yards hunt in from six fourteen to three Chiefs.
Speaker 1: It'd be fourteen to six at the half, but not
Speaker 1: before Brandon Ayuk suffered a gruesome leg injury on a
Speaker 1: fifteen yard catch. ACL appears to be shot and Brandon
Speaker 1: Ayuk will be out for the season for the Niners,
Speaker 1: who already I've said what has been three weeks now,
Speaker 1: I've said it. I don't know if Christian McCaffrey's ever
Speaker 1: playing again. I really don't. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: They're floating those fake reports I saw this morning like
Speaker 2: he could be back for week ten, but like, what
Speaker 2: does that even mean? Could be back for week ten.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this about McCaffrey, Like, as Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: experienced yesterday, there's nothing worse than rupturing your achilles, And
Speaker 1: when you rupture one, you're scared to rupture the other.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine having the bilateral thing happening at the
Speaker 1: same time, and you're living in fear of what could
Speaker 1: happen to your achilles'. That's it's almost worse.
Speaker 2: Than it actually happening in the end, the.
Speaker 1: Fear of it. Third quarter Kansas City third and eight
Speaker 1: at their own thirty one Mahomes pick by Diamador Lenoir,
Speaker 1: San Francisco set up at Kansas City twenty three.
Speaker 2: They got it in pertty in from one.
Speaker 1: Instead of going for two, they opted for an extra
Speaker 1: point and carl and unders Carlson missed it fourteen to twelve.
Speaker 1: San Francisco would then that party would throw it. You know,
Speaker 1: he throw another pick where Bell did a heart out
Speaker 1: when he shouldn't have. Kansas City would turn that into
Speaker 1: a touchdown mak at twenty one to twelve, and the
Speaker 1: route was on. We'll get to the end of that
Speaker 1: game and the guess for Kansas City at the Raiders.
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Speaker 1: Don't be a favor. Can I sound like I'm a
Speaker 1: thousand years old? Just look at Michael Jordan's career stats. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got it. Story to tell you, Michael Jordan. It
Speaker 1: look how many times he played eighty two games?
Speaker 2: Oh it's a lot. Yes, I just want to point
Speaker 2: that out. It is what happened to these kids today.
Speaker 1: Uh, Friday Saturday night, I'm at the Aria. I guess
Speaker 1: who I'm standing next to Michael Jordan. Really? Yeah, Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan playing blackjack there and that the rh.
Speaker 2: Friday night, Saturday night.
Speaker 1: He how can I put?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 1: Doesn't have good energy?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, well I think I think he's serious about
Speaker 2: his betting, right he.
Speaker 1: Is, But he's you could just there's just a there's
Speaker 1: a there's a bubble around him that doesn't feel good
Speaker 1: to others who are around. Not that anyone's trying to
Speaker 1: talk to him, because people know kind of instinctively don't
Speaker 1: talk to mj kind of thing, but it's just there's
Speaker 1: this energy that isn't is a pleasant one. He doesn't
Speaker 1: look great either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's getting up there, but he is one
Speaker 2: of those though. We have a I don't know who
Speaker 2: else in this town is like this, but I've had
Speaker 2: this conversation with a couple betters of like, whatever that
Speaker 2: table was, I would pay to play at for at
Speaker 2: least a few heads. Oh yeah, like even if you know,
Speaker 2: if it was I don't know, five hundred whatever.
Speaker 1: It was, Rubbins shoulders with greatness.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to just to be there once was kind
Speaker 2: of cool. Yeah, hanging out at the Aria, man, that's
Speaker 2: not pretty cool. I want to see, though, Jordan walk
Speaker 2: into a casino, like what was the old The old legend,
Speaker 2: right is that he throws like five grand on twenty
Speaker 2: three red at the Roulette Wheel, like as soon as
Speaker 2: he walks in, right, Yeah, that's the old story. But
Speaker 2: I've never I've never I'd love to see that in action.
Speaker 1: Let me just pick up where we left off in
Speaker 1: this Kansas City San Francisco game, because the twenty the
Speaker 1: drive that made it fourteen to twelve to twenty one
Speaker 1: to twelve. Before we get to that, let me read
Speaker 1: these tweets because this is this is interesting. Bobby Getty's
Speaker 1: random thought. But the NFL is so weird. He says.
Speaker 1: If you told me four years ago that I was
Speaker 1: going to be more excited for a Darnald golf game
Speaker 1: than I would be for a Rogers Russell Wilson game,
Speaker 1: I would have thought you were insane. Also, go cards tonight,
Speaker 1: Shooter mcgamblin can't wait for the Dumble of the Week
Speaker 1: on the megapod this week, so many great candidates. Pierce
Speaker 1: kicking a field goal down eight, Laflora electing not to
Speaker 1: go for two. Yeah, I should have mentioned that when
Speaker 1: they went up twenty one to nineteen, he should have
Speaker 1: tried for two to make it twenty two to nineteen.
Speaker 1: He did not do that. Peterson passing on a field
Speaker 1: goal to go up eighteen. Honorable mention, Tomiko Ryans leaving
Speaker 1: too much time for the Packers Big oat X. I
Speaker 1: can't listen live today, but excited to catch up and
Speaker 1: hear Gil discuss which new Giant mansion coach Pierce is
Speaker 1: moving to after he gifted Raiders backers with that cover,
Speaker 1: a decision that can only be described as curious. And
Speaker 1: then Jeremiah Westgate, Gil, what is the purpose of guessing
Speaker 1: lines again, I forget what is the purpose of this
Speaker 1: thing called the NFL? Again, he says, as a Jets fan,
Speaker 1: I want to forget. Sadly, my loyalty to this team
Speaker 1: that does not love their fans back has negatively impacted
Speaker 1: my life over decades. Yeah yeah, Tom stephan, is Carolina
Speaker 1: approaching historically bad territory. I wonder what Aaron Shotts numbers
Speaker 1: would show on this. And then towards d says, I
Speaker 1: love the Eagles plus three against the Bengals. Both teams
Speaker 1: just played the Giants and those games look totally different.
Speaker 1: That's a very strange line.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm hesitant to go out and
Speaker 2: run it bend it though.
Speaker 1: Because the Bengals will scary you, for sure they will.
Speaker 1: And the Eagles they definitely seem like something.
Speaker 2: Is they got their problems too, Yeah, like there's there's
Speaker 2: dysfunction going.
Speaker 4: On in that.
Speaker 1: And you don't know how bad the Giants are. I mean,
Speaker 1: you sacked the opposing quarterbacks eight times, seven jones a total.
Speaker 2: That defensive front is good. I don't know about the
Speaker 2: rest of the team.
Speaker 1: Back to the Kansas City San Francisco game, So Kansas
Speaker 1: City makes a twenty one to twelve on this drive
Speaker 1: where Patrick Mahomes ends up having the longest run of
Speaker 1: his career thirty three yards, longest run of his career.
Speaker 1: He goes in from one twenty one to twelve early
Speaker 1: second quarter. Then San Francisco third and goal at the
Speaker 1: KC five party picked by Jade Nicks in the end zone.
Speaker 1: This was an unforgivable pass by Brock. Pretty unforgivable. You
Speaker 1: got to at least get points there. And then Kansas
Speaker 1: City twelve plays eighty yards and it was over hardman
Speaker 1: in from eighteen twenty eight to twelve. Twenty eight to
Speaker 1: eighteen was the final in this game. And this is
Speaker 1: Kansas City at Vegas. Talk about a big line. We
Speaker 1: don't get to guess these large lines often this year,
Speaker 1: but that's got to be ten.
Speaker 2: Right, This is ten. Nine and a half's out there
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: On the road. The six and oh Chiefs, the last
Speaker 1: unbeaten team. They went at fair and square. They didn't
Speaker 1: have to do the time of day thing, which could
Speaker 1: have come into effect yesterday, but it did not. Can't
Speaker 1: wait to get to the Niners. What's next?
Speaker 2: All right? We got Bears at commanders, all right.
Speaker 1: If it is Jaden Daniels Bears coming off of bye here.
Speaker 1: If it is Jayden Daniels, I will say Washington. By
Speaker 1: the way, Daniels was two of two for six yards,
Speaker 1: three carries for fifty before he got hurt. Mariota eighteen
Speaker 1: for eighteen of twenty three for two oh five, McLaurin
Speaker 1: six for ninety eight a four to twenty one to
Speaker 1: one eighty total yards advantage over the Panthers. The Panthers
Speaker 1: are so bad that Marcus Mariota crushed him.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: If it's Daniels, I'll say Washington minus four because the
Speaker 1: Bears haven't beaten anybody yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I was wondering what was where this
Speaker 2: was going to move. This opened Washington like one, I believe,
Speaker 2: and we are now on the other side Bears anywhere
Speaker 2: between one to two point favorites.
Speaker 1: So that's the assumption that Daniels is not gonna play.
Speaker 2: I did. I played a little Bears yesterday on the
Speaker 2: opener gild, but that was really just a I think
Speaker 2: they're going.
Speaker 1: To protect this kid as much as right, like, if
Speaker 1: he does not play, it should be a Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a pick of my best.
Speaker 2: Even if he misses a week, right, even if it's just, hey,
Speaker 2: you know there's some bruising, whatever, let's keep him out
Speaker 2: a week. I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I I chose to view it as
Speaker 1: the RG three equivalent injury. If this is the worst
Speaker 1: thing that happens to Jade and Daniels were all gonna
Speaker 1: be okay.
Speaker 2: Now you also just put it well though, like they
Speaker 2: they're that Commander's team did not look very different once
Speaker 2: Mariota got in there yesterday. Yeah, that's kind of what
Speaker 2: I'm going with.
Speaker 1: They're going to be different with against a legitimate opponent,
Speaker 1: they'll look off the legit defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Sunday Night Football. This one sounded more
Speaker 2: fun a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Cowboys at forty nine Ers, Oh, rematch of the great
Speaker 1: NFC Championships of days gone by Perty yesterday. Seventeen of
Speaker 1: thirty one for two to twelve, no touchdowns, three picks,
Speaker 1: two of which were god awful. Eight carries twenty seven yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, Rock Purty. I sort of had memories of
Speaker 1: last year's Ravens game, and I thought to myself, does
Speaker 1: brock Perty have a big game problem. But I guess
Speaker 1: they got to the Super Bowl, so you can't say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it did come into my mind. Now they don't
Speaker 1: have a yuked. But by the way, Deebo was out
Speaker 1: for a lot of that game yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that? I mean illness?
Speaker 1: Right, And if they don't have debo, they are a
Speaker 1: different team. We've seen that in the past. Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I don't know if he's ever
Speaker 1: coming back, but they should take care of the boys.
Speaker 1: I'll say they're four and a half point.
Speaker 2: Favorites five and a half five.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, five and a half. I guess not
Speaker 1: four and a half right right on. Then here's the
Speaker 1: thing Niners are going to have to drop in the
Speaker 1: old power ring. Yeah, question is by how much they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to question is by how much. I don't
Speaker 1: think they'll go plummeting down line, but they will drop
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: You brought it up. You said it, said it well.
Speaker 2: With the Brock. We were impressed early in the year
Speaker 2: where it felt like he was playing a little bit
Speaker 2: more out of structure and making great plays.
Speaker 1: He was playing more out of structure.
Speaker 2: Yesterday and making bad plays. That's that's correct, That's what happened.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs defense is really good. All right, Monday night
Speaker 2: Football Giants ad Steelers, and just one Monday Night or
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 1: The Steelers are five and two. Let me just say
Speaker 1: this again. Also, I in the span of one football game,
Speaker 1: went from oh my god, what is Mike Tomlin thinking
Speaker 1: having Russell Wilson in this game? He looks terrible. Two
Speaker 1: By the end of this game, not even by the end,
Speaker 1: by like the fourth cour are saying like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is genius. Because Russell Wilson, at least, what is
Speaker 1: the problem with Justin fit Justin Fields can make plays
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson can't make anymore, There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: But Justin Fields doesn't like he doesn't throw as good
Speaker 1: of a deep ball, and sometimes doesn't even throw the
Speaker 1: deep ball right. And so Russell's a willingness. His willingness
Speaker 1: to do that a threat a.
Speaker 2: Load of pushing it downfield, especially when you have a
Speaker 2: guy like George Pickens who's gonna come down with most
Speaker 2: of them in a one on one situation.
Speaker 1: It looked like a sort of transformed team.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: It's the Jets. But the Jets defense was supposed to
Speaker 1: be great, right, No, not so much. Wilson sixteen of
Speaker 1: twenty nine for two sixty four in victory over the Jets. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: the Giants, once again against Philly, held to Oh I
Speaker 1: didn't say this. The Giants were held to one hundred
Speaker 1: and nineteen totally yards yesterday. Jones was fourteen of twenty
Speaker 1: one for ninety nine. He was sacked seven times. Giants
Speaker 1: quarterback sacked eight times. Pittsburgh minus five and a half.
Speaker 1: Same thing.
Speaker 2: This is up to six and a half? Six or
Speaker 2: six and a half? Steelers are this open? Five and
Speaker 2: a half? Is Mike tom or Mike Toumblin The Steelers
Speaker 2: about to go six and two? Dude, I don't I
Speaker 2: love the guy man as much as as much as
Speaker 2: we rip on that stat. Listen post game, he was
Speaker 2: kind of bragging about it too.
Speaker 1: I gotta say this man, he got me, He got me. Now.
Speaker 1: They still have a tough schedule, they do. They still
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of losses coming. But as long
Speaker 1: as they're banking these wins, he's gonna he's gonna beat
Speaker 1: me under.
Speaker 2: He dropped like that's what That's why they pay me
Speaker 2: as much as they do in post games. He said that.
Speaker 1: Now, on the other hand, if they if they have
Speaker 1: just one upset, like let's say they lose this game,
Speaker 1: suddenly that Steelers under stuff is back in business. It
Speaker 1: really is. But so far, man, that guy's been also
Speaker 2: That don't stop