Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we talked that
Speaker 1: rushing attack.
Speaker 2: Man offensive line.
Speaker 1: Those boys that smelled like Bacon got after JD five
Speaker 1: with the first touchdown was awesome. We break down the
Speaker 1: running back room, We talked Bengals recap, who won, defense
Speaker 1: stood out, and then we preview the Baltimore Ravens game
Speaker 1: and the position battles that are goings aside the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster that all starts right now. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Command Center Podcast. I'm Locan Pulson here with Santana
Speaker 1: Moss and Fred Smooth.
Speaker 2: Hey doing Hey, feeling good dude?
Speaker 1: The legend of the game, Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes it was. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: It's really just an omage to the old people, you know.
Speaker 2: I just happen to be one of those old people.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. This, uh, the ownership wants to show
Speaker 2: homage the people. I think is mostly appreciated. I appreciate it. Really,
Speaker 2: it was really for my key is to enjoy I
Speaker 2: enjoyed it a good.
Speaker 3: Time through their leans, just damn seeing I especially because
Speaker 3: my youngest dead was there. She's never seen me play
Speaker 3: football like that, so for them for her to see
Speaker 3: me get appreciated.
Speaker 2: That meant a lot to him. Man, And it don't
Speaker 2: go without saying, that's cool.
Speaker 4: I was laughing because I came in the sweet looking
Speaker 4: for you, saw your kids and there and I'm like,
Speaker 4: and then I saw you with that flap like, oh
Speaker 4: there you go down?
Speaker 1: What did you so? I was saying, I was sitting
Speaker 1: right in front of him. Listen.
Speaker 2: You should see the look on Logan's face. He would not.
Speaker 2: He said, I look, I'm trying to look through it
Speaker 2: like that right here. Don't stop listen between Logan and London.
Speaker 2: It ain't It's only right though.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: You one of those guys.
Speaker 4: Man, it's all day every day, Like I swear, it's
Speaker 4: not a person I bump into and they were like,
Speaker 4: it's freend like that every day and I tell him,
Speaker 4: I say, look, man, I would love to see this
Speaker 4: guy do stand up because every day that's what I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm going through. And I'm listening to that.
Speaker 4: He brings new material. I don't know if he's sitting
Speaker 4: home on his couch daring and down. Dude comes with
Speaker 4: fire every day. So you know, I mean, bro, but
Speaker 4: you got to think about it, man, not only being
Speaker 4: a legend as a football player in this area, they
Speaker 4: just love to bump into you and hear you talks Mac.
Speaker 4: That's what everybody wants to see Fred for like when
Speaker 4: when they see you smooth.
Speaker 1: And you go from there.
Speaker 4: So it's just funny, man that everybody loves the fact
Speaker 4: that they know you're gonna give him something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's uh. I was talking to Kerry Campbell
Speaker 1: and Kendrick Olson and they were kind of talking about oh,
Speaker 1: like you know those smoodisms and they're the same ones then, yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. So you can tell he's running and
Speaker 1: everyone's all doing will pop up.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, the floor is the floor. I'm like, Michael,
Speaker 5: tell you know that, the floor. So yeah, it's one
Speaker 5: they're staying in circulation. But you know, I just like
Speaker 5: the lab and I like that. I like for people
Speaker 5: to lab. And I think I've always.
Speaker 1: Been doing a really good job of that, by the
Speaker 1: way now.
Speaker 3: And I think people always feel easy up to come
Speaker 3: to me because I have been the approachable player no
Speaker 3: matter what, we have a conversation with you, because people
Speaker 3: don't forget.
Speaker 1: They never forget these things. So we had like an
Speaker 1: appearance here like one of the last days of training camp,
Speaker 1: and we had to go over to the suite down
Speaker 1: right there, and I always get nervous going in there
Speaker 1: because I'm like, uh no, these people really want to
Speaker 1: talk to you. And Fred walks in two feet down.
Speaker 1: How were you, sir, bam do such a good job
Speaker 1: of that, Like you do such a good job of
Speaker 1: being like making people feel comfortable here. I am, Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know me. I'm friend smooth, Like it's very
Speaker 1: natural for you. Obviously you've had a lot of pride.
Speaker 3: I just like for people because they kind of feel
Speaker 3: intimidated when they see us. So I want to let
Speaker 3: them know I got two feet on the ground like
Speaker 3: you now you're doing Like once you break the ice,
Speaker 3: then they'll start to come and gather, and so I
Speaker 3: try to I'm good at breaking the ice very quickly.
Speaker 1: So, Tanny, you said you have to see him way
Speaker 1: with a flag? Right? Yeah, how would you rate his flag? Right?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one of his looks.
Speaker 3: Well, Hey, it's crazy because they caught me by surprise
Speaker 3: because I just asked, we're smooth, yeah, and then I.
Speaker 2: Looked they like the legend of the game, and that
Speaker 2: like what I'm like that is he okay?
Speaker 1: He said. Like. The other thing that got me was like,
Speaker 1: you know, usually kind of wave it so that it
Speaker 1: doesn't tangle up it up.
Speaker 3: Well, you know I did Danduake Macniculotte from the Heck South,
Speaker 3: Jim Dugg and class of a flag waving.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what's wild to me? The best,
Speaker 1: My favorite part of the night. You just finished waving
Speaker 1: and Jason was there with me on the sidel and
Speaker 1: he comes up to Jason's like, you've never seen anybody
Speaker 1: waving flag better than miss, Like like didn't even miss
Speaker 1: up being just straight out the gates.
Speaker 3: Listen, man, if you don't believe in yourself in you
Speaker 3: gotta Zoom's company.
Speaker 4: My part was my favorite part was just to know
Speaker 4: when the girl started talking.
Speaker 1: To me, Oh yeah, it's like you wanted to hear
Speaker 1: he will I say, dog this dude here, What other.
Speaker 3: Place can you hear thousands of people say your name?
Speaker 3: If that's the only one place that can happen at
Speaker 3: So sometime when I get that urge to get that
Speaker 3: is that fix?
Speaker 2: You cannot get the euphoria that that brings.
Speaker 3: I remember when we was playing and I would make
Speaker 3: a play and it was six seventy thousand at this time,
Speaker 3: and the groundould starting to shake a little bit. I
Speaker 3: was just a little tear with you, and that was like,
Speaker 3: I need moneys, I need to make more plane, so
Speaker 3: just to go out in front of the crowd of
Speaker 3: him and to most people, they think they're moving, but
Speaker 3: the people that know, they know, so.
Speaker 1: I just I love it. It was kind of funny
Speaker 1: that right when she started talking to you, and I'm like, dude, man,
Speaker 1: oh god, all right, So yeah, congrat spread. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: You definitely deserve it. Got a couple of housekeeping things.
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter Logan Pulse in the NFL Ye check
Speaker 1: it out, posting.
Speaker 3: One of the hottest twitters right now going excuse me
Speaker 3: Twitter for I mean a.
Speaker 1: X notice Twitter, that's right. And then we got thanks
Speaker 1: again for the People's points, People's Choice Podcast nominations. Really
Speaker 1: appreciate that we're there because of you guys and fred
Speaker 1: Man Taylor Swill. I'm a little disappointed drop that heat
Speaker 1: felt they felt us coming. Man.
Speaker 2: They hated precisely at the right time. Have you ever
Speaker 2: been hated all precisely at the right time?
Speaker 1: Because I hate I think we all have.
Speaker 2: Actually yes, Now you got to just take your when
Speaker 2: they come in. That fine, Like I told you, we
Speaker 2: haven't lost together.
Speaker 3: It's fine, all right, But listen, when I was sitting
Speaker 3: at home going through my Instagram, see these two brothers,
Speaker 3: Taylor swil you're gonna do what the week I looked,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I gave you smooth, like come on now
Speaker 3: we if we voting, And it.
Speaker 1: Was like a cultural moment like it was everywhere.
Speaker 2: Women are all around a miracle.
Speaker 3: Paul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what there Kelsey and the Swift home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess what I've seen Our dreams just crumble
Speaker 3: right there. I said, you know what, I'd have got
Speaker 3: my eye black before. I ain't black, So you gotta
Speaker 3: be more like me. I ain't have my hoes up high.
Speaker 3: Surprise me.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what gonna do? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and look it up, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not gonna It's a good question for the fans, obviously,
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is one of the most famous people in
Speaker 1: the world. Is there someone we could have on this
Speaker 1: podcast that's a Commander fan?
Speaker 2: Get what Commanders fan?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I know they ain't gonna be on the level of Tap.
Speaker 4: Not even a Commander's fan, because you got to think
Speaker 4: about it, she's not really technically a fan.
Speaker 1: She's in the family.
Speaker 2: She married.
Speaker 1: It is. So we just got to get a.
Speaker 3: Person that we can say that's from this area or
Speaker 3: all right, all right, good or nearby.
Speaker 1: Little bit.
Speaker 3: You know what about Michael Phillips, No, the fish Philips
Speaker 3: can't do.
Speaker 1: It, dude, I mean he's not He's Baltimore, Baltimore and me,
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean he dude, Like she's a
Speaker 1: she's a megastar. Yeah, Like we gotta be thinking bigger
Speaker 1: than that.
Speaker 4: All right, we got mega stuff. We gotta bring Joey
Speaker 4: and back to the Wizards until.
Speaker 1: Down. You know, Jordan's magic magic would be a magic
Speaker 1: but he parted.
Speaker 3: Likely they'll be like he obligated. We need, like somebody,
Speaker 3: feel like I'm gonna do it because I won't need
Speaker 3: Martin Lawrence from the d m V.
Speaker 1: But the other one was the Herd Junior Nascars.
Speaker 2: We got, Damn.
Speaker 4: I feel like we had him on a couple of shows,
Speaker 4: so I don't know, like if they would look at
Speaker 4: it as well.
Speaker 1: He's done shows before.
Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey, the old guy, Jeffrey Wright, the actor Jeffrey Wright.
Speaker 1: Who else would be? I mean Joe bur He today,
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, Barenthal.
Speaker 1: But but just leave a comment if there's something that
Speaker 1: you think we could have on the show.
Speaker 2: Could make us compete against.
Speaker 1: How would he his wife? Do you know?
Speaker 2: I don't know him person, I've been around him.
Speaker 1: I don't know Obama. I met him. I met him
Speaker 1: once and because he was in d C.
Speaker 4: He actually did one of his his You know how
Speaker 4: they have like the whole presidential thing when they're getting
Speaker 4: ready to run for president, they have like they have
Speaker 4: little parties here and there, like the families who your
Speaker 4: fund raises.
Speaker 1: Me and Sean.
Speaker 4: Springs did want and he was the he was the
Speaker 4: governor in Chicago, Yes, yeah, And he literally sat there,
Speaker 4: had a square, taught us about Chicago playing us that
Speaker 4: season and we ended up beating Chicago.
Speaker 3: And I remember men smooth men men's uh Springs Men.
Speaker 3: Springs was sitting there telling him he was gonna take
Speaker 3: him down. I mean he he knew extras and those like.
Speaker 3: It was like in the back of this, I would
Speaker 3: love to just be a cricket in the room.
Speaker 2: The CEO bluefoot in that type of environment, because this
Speaker 2: is that was an environment, that's his environment. Sean was
Speaker 2: in a suit.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know how.
Speaker 2: I came up most definitely.
Speaker 1: Fresh at the mall. He was suited and booted.
Speaker 3: I was in that thing, and some I think I
Speaker 3: had some what you call those true religions on us.
Speaker 1: I look, yeah, So leave a comment let us know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a bad one, Fred, So maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get there with that. And then we have a
Speaker 1: live show at the Muni this Friday, August twenty second.
Speaker 1: Start the football season off with us. Make sure you
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Speaker 3: How you gotta do is put your phone on photo,
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Speaker 1: All Right, now we've got some review to do, a
Speaker 1: little bit of news. So coming out of the preseason game,
Speaker 1: obviously the rushing attack was tremendous, really impressive, but also
Speaker 1: there's news about Brian Robinson Jr. And so people say, hey, Logan,
Speaker 1: what do you know what's going on? I know what
Speaker 1: coach Dan Quinns knows. We have it written down here.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to read it. This is what we know.
Speaker 1: Ap and I met with Brian yesterday Sunday and told
Speaker 1: him that we would hold him out of the game tonight.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of moving parts this time of year.
Speaker 1: These things take place. I'll give you an update once
Speaker 1: there's one to share with you. Yeah. So again, like
Speaker 1: I've been a part of teams where similar stuff has happened.
Speaker 1: Similar stuff has happened to me too in pieces games,
Speaker 1: or they helped me out of games because they don't
Speaker 1: want to get hurt, because they want to cut you
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm not saying that's what's happening. Here. But
Speaker 1: this is not totally uncommon.
Speaker 3: This is football one on one, Busney's one on one.
Speaker 3: I have seen this so much. It doesn't nothing shocks me.
Speaker 3: And I don't know just because we at the least and.
Speaker 1: We kind of numb to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is not really uh what we would
Speaker 2: Kyle be new.
Speaker 1: This is what I can say.
Speaker 3: I and this is why coach just continue to be
Speaker 3: dick guy his communication to the team.
Speaker 1: I say, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: We don't like to turn on ESPN and found out
Speaker 3: what's going on in that building. Like I love a
Speaker 3: coach that stands right in front and say this is
Speaker 3: what happened, because we don't need a coach to be
Speaker 3: nice to us. We need a coach to be honest
Speaker 3: to us. And when you honest like that, it frees
Speaker 3: us up to be who we gonna be. So when
Speaker 3: you stand up there and say this is what's going on,
Speaker 3: your trust?
Speaker 2: You got?
Speaker 1: I got you trust? Yeah? Yeah, And I think it's
Speaker 1: a right professional human way to handle it. So good
Speaker 1: for them. But he robbed, didn't play, and that's what
Speaker 1: we know about it, so not a lot. But what
Speaker 1: we did know is that Sea Rod played Bill Crosskey
Speaker 1: Merritt played and those guys played pretty darn good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like what is it so looking at the running
Speaker 1: back room just at a high level from the game,
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about the implications for the season. What
Speaker 1: did you think of those guys last same I thought.
Speaker 4: I thought that even going into the game, were just
Speaker 4: knowing that they was going to sit be robbed. I said, one,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to jump out there and
Speaker 4: just talk about what how well they ran the ball.
Speaker 1: Just thought the.
Speaker 4: Guys up front man this game, offensive line and some
Speaker 4: clear lanes that it was undoubtedly that they had to
Speaker 4: go out there for that way. Because these guys went
Speaker 4: out there and put on a great performance.
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you on that.
Speaker 3: When then I think the thing you brought up is
Speaker 3: Rob is like they just say, why have two SUVs
Speaker 3: in my front yard? I don't need two SUV's. If
Speaker 3: Rob is an SUV and I got Bill Meyer is
Speaker 3: a sports car, I got two different cars. So then
Speaker 3: you got and then you got your boy Zach, then
Speaker 3: I got. So it's it's different. Everybody do a different
Speaker 3: job a different way. And I like the way that
Speaker 3: Rodriguez has trimmed up like.
Speaker 1: He's he looks good.
Speaker 3: He's running with a spring in his step. And like
Speaker 3: you said, those guys up front, they won that battle.
Speaker 3: They pushed guys around. They open holes for whoever touched
Speaker 3: the ball. And we talking first Green, Sixth Street, and
Speaker 3: third Steed.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, like you talk about the
Speaker 1: guys up front, I think Cliff also did a really
Speaker 1: good job of, like with some of the game playing stuff,
Speaker 1: like running that influenced trap. I know that's the player
Speaker 1: that's kind of souping the NFL at the moment. That's
Speaker 1: the one where Sea Red has that big explosive play.
Speaker 1: They run the countertrait right, it's out of a three
Speaker 1: by one, so three receivers to the left, they're just
Speaker 1: turn into the right. Yeah, they have to match the formation,
Speaker 1: the corners, the run support player. It should be an
Speaker 1: advantage for us. And obviously, you know Chris Paul Andrew
Speaker 1: Wiley did a great job getting out in front. John
Speaker 1: Bates is a great block on that place. Dude. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: he's looking like he's again like just mature it. This
Speaker 1: is one of those things, man, I try to tell
Speaker 1: fans all the time. It's like they come to one
Speaker 1: practice they see one thing and it's like, man, you know, Conny, dude,
Speaker 1: it's a growing time.
Speaker 3: And let grandma cook That's how they stole it, dude,
Speaker 3: d Let Grandma cook Man be patient.
Speaker 1: Because his movement skills are silly.
Speaker 3: He's at he's very at the letty and quit. First
Speaker 3: run actually was Deebo Sammons. Yeah, let's be honest. And
Speaker 3: it just shows me where the head of the Cincinnati
Speaker 3: Bengals defense he is. I told y'all he's an alert guy.
Speaker 3: Debo's alert guy. Learned him at the huddle, alert him moving. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't let him run across the floor.
Speaker 1: They didn't alert him though, they.
Speaker 2: Didn't learn him, not one. And guess what he did,
Speaker 2: turned the corn turn.
Speaker 1: He looked fast.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, that's what we've been saying all the while,
Speaker 4: like people get so caught up into the being in
Speaker 4: shorts and oh.
Speaker 1: I don't see what what they see in d Bo.
Speaker 4: We ain't see none yet because you're not going to
Speaker 4: see what d boat until somebody. And that's what he did.
Speaker 4: As soon as he got the ball. You know, I
Speaker 4: looked at a friend of mine, I'm like, this is
Speaker 4: what he brings. The element that he brings it the game.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things too where it's like
Speaker 1: the physicality, the explosive and I think fans have a
Speaker 1: hard time categorizing him because he's not a true like
Speaker 1: outside wide right and so he's athlete. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: final way to get him touches on choice routes, on
Speaker 1: jet sweeps, you know, design hands offs. I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of it. But you know,
Speaker 1: going back to the backs, like it was cool, just
Speaker 1: like I really like se Rod, like his his story
Speaker 1: last year especially was great because like he got cut,
Speaker 1: he got.
Speaker 2: He kept he kept holding on.
Speaker 1: Kept holding on, and then he came into training camp,
Speaker 1: like you said, fred in really good shape. He like
Speaker 1: in the Burgundy and Gold scrimmage last week, man, he
Speaker 1: was one of the more impressive players. The physicality, the
Speaker 1: past protection, he's just stuck with it. And my journey
Speaker 1: was really similar to that, like we'll not take no
Speaker 1: full it's and it's awesome. It shows a stick to
Speaker 1: it in this it shows a professionalism and it was
Speaker 1: great to see him kind of get And again I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's going to start. I don't. I have
Speaker 1: no idea what's gonna happen, but to take advantage of
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all you can do in the preseason.
Speaker 3: Like I said, some dreams are going to end next weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 3: some dreams just thrown. Yeah, And it's all about who
Speaker 3: willing to say no, I'm not I'm not giving up
Speaker 3: this spot.
Speaker 1: And that's what he's saying.
Speaker 3: And you know, when it comes to this, being slotted
Speaker 3: sometimes have to do with how much money do you.
Speaker 2: Make compared to how much money the guy behind you make?
Speaker 1: No, I think. And then so obviously ce Rod, I
Speaker 1: think his outing was great. I think he had six
Speaker 1: carries or what do you have six carries for sixty
Speaker 1: two yards? Yeah, so that's a really that's a heck
Speaker 1: of a night. And then the guy that just keeps
Speaker 1: popping up, honestly is Bill Crosskey maror Man.
Speaker 2: Dollar Bill, dollar Bill.
Speaker 1: That you call him?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, dollar dollar, dollar bill.
Speaker 3: May I like that listening a little bit the thing
Speaker 3: about dollar Bill by stocking him, by stocking dollar Bill,
Speaker 3: because one I like unique situations. And when I say unique,
Speaker 3: his unique situation is I didn't get to play my
Speaker 3: senior year all. Guess what I did when they say
Speaker 3: I couldn't play on the team. I practiced with the team.
Speaker 3: Then I got to play in the All Star Game
Speaker 3: and went got MVP of it. Low tread milege on
Speaker 3: your tire. It reminds me similar to what happened to
Speaker 3: Tom Brady. Tom Brady was not a full start in Michigan.
Speaker 3: He was high drew, he was not a food so
Speaker 3: when he got to New England, they didn't know what
Speaker 3: they had. I think it's one of them unique and
Speaker 3: I love unique situation. This guy got birthed, I mean burst,
Speaker 3: low center of gravity, run behind his past. He's explosive,
Speaker 3: I like everything. He breaks your tape and he likes
Speaker 3: to answer the challenge with a smile on his face.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: No, I love it, man.
Speaker 4: I think one of the things that kind of led
Speaker 4: them to kind of, you know, to going in the
Speaker 4: direction that the end is because you have that kind
Speaker 4: of talent in the backfield, and he's young, and he
Speaker 4: gives you something that you've kind of been looking for
Speaker 4: in your backfield, you know what I mean. So when
Speaker 4: you have that, you have, like I said, you have
Speaker 4: guys that come on kind of like fit the same mold.
Speaker 4: You want to say I got to make a room,
Speaker 4: and it's not you know, it's not. I guess you
Speaker 4: can say anything bad for the one guy who they
Speaker 4: have to you know who, who's who's going to be
Speaker 4: probably going to demand that left out. When you have
Speaker 4: a talent, like like you call them dollar Bill, and
Speaker 4: you have the other guys out there which you are younger,
Speaker 4: and you see a bright future with your team with him,
Speaker 4: you have to go out there and and you know, do.
Speaker 1: What you do.
Speaker 3: I think I got to give me a shirt with
Speaker 3: a dollar bill on it with a face George Washington.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to George Washington, hair on dollar bill.
Speaker 1: And I think I want to give you credit because
Speaker 1: I think you said maybe Tennis of it, like Isaiah Pacheco, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but when you see him in person,
Speaker 1: he's got that kind of high knee.
Speaker 2: High knee.
Speaker 3: Then it's that one vicious cutting. It ain't like you
Speaker 3: needs a pity patter. It's a one stamp and go.
Speaker 3: And I was like, this dude runs aggressive because it's
Speaker 3: two type of running backs. It's running backs that father
Speaker 3: the ground, meaning they feed him by touching them and
Speaker 3: the glide. Then it's the guy that tear ground up.
Speaker 3: He's definitely a tear ground He's a tear ground up guy.
Speaker 3: Put it like this, if he was a deer, we
Speaker 3: could track him in the woods, Like, no problem, we
Speaker 3: could track him.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm seeing to a name many cut you off.
Speaker 4: When you're watching these guys, you can you can almost
Speaker 4: see the training camp in them. Like I'm watching them
Speaker 4: run and I'm like them legs are kind of like
Speaker 4: beat up, but it's training camp legs like, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: they ain't they bursting, but they ain't giving us that
Speaker 4: week one burst.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see. So for them to go
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: And look that good, knowing that they just went through
Speaker 3: the vigorous practices, you know, it was great to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they are just feel like I have
Speaker 1: to say, is with Bill Crossky Marrit He's done a
Speaker 1: great job in camp, he's done a great job in
Speaker 1: the preseason. But I think he's just an important reminder
Speaker 1: that he's a rookie still and they're still a little
Speaker 1: bit of development that needs to happen, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like there's a couple of runs in
Speaker 1: there where you're like, oh, don't bounce that that's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with young players. So I I'm kind of I
Speaker 1: feel like I got to protect him a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, because fans are like, Oh, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the next so and so, so and so. But it's like
Speaker 1: he's a good player. Yeah, he's got he still got
Speaker 1: some growing to do, and I just feel like we
Speaker 1: just got to.
Speaker 2: I also want to tell fans this because I hear this.
Speaker 3: I love sports radio, but sometime i'm I do sports radio,
Speaker 3: but sometime I can get Nash all right, I'm so
Speaker 3: tired of here. He's a seven round draft pick. We
Speaker 3: don't expecting that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: This league is not about where you get drafted.
Speaker 3: I'm so you cannot pick somebody's value by what around
Speaker 3: they went in. My value is about who's on my
Speaker 3: team and what can I bring to my team. And
Speaker 3: it don't matter when I got drafted, because I hear
Speaker 3: it all the time. We can't expect nothing from him
Speaker 3: still around here, Yes we can, because I haven't expected
Speaker 3: something from undrafted free agents.
Speaker 2: It don't matter how you get here, is matter how
Speaker 2: you stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's definitely making a good impression. I think
Speaker 1: the other guy that I mean, I just love watching
Speaker 1: him practice. I love his process, I love his professionalism
Speaker 1: is Jeremy McNichols. Yeah, Like he just is like a
Speaker 1: pros pro man, you know, like in past protection he
Speaker 1: runs hard plays teams like and and and Cliff said this, like,
Speaker 1: so you're talking about the depth of the running back room.
Speaker 1: He's like, all six or seven guys in there have
Speaker 1: a place in the league, right. They all have dynamic trades,
Speaker 1: all have things that do really well guys when they
Speaker 1: have their opportunity to play at a high level. It's
Speaker 1: a deep group and we just got to see how
Speaker 1: it shakes out. I think that is the So first off,
Speaker 1: that's very kind. Like when a coach says, hey, man,
Speaker 1: like we've got six dudes that'll play, that deserve to
Speaker 1: play in the league. I think that speaks to.
Speaker 3: It goes a long way because he's out of coaches
Speaker 3: out there, they listening, and you know, I always tell
Speaker 3: people everybody injury away from being on a rosters that
Speaker 3: they had no idea they think they was gonna be on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I mean I look at McNichols, and I
Speaker 1: mean he's had a he's had a very he's been.
Speaker 1: He's been himself. You know, he's done nothing I think too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very consistent. And and you look at that room and I
Speaker 1: think you said this, Fred, like you get just those
Speaker 1: three guys right there that are kind of similar versions
Speaker 1: like yeah, but they each have like a like if
Speaker 1: you look at the matting rating, they're all pretty close.
Speaker 1: But Sea Roy's got the power, Bill's got the birds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you look at uh Heckler and his ability,
Speaker 1: he got the wheelball. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But they all play special teams. Listen, they all play team.
Speaker 3: It was only one guy in the running bed room.
Speaker 3: They didn't play special team.
Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to again, even the back
Speaker 1: like Kaz Allen and Felton, like both those tweeners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they catch the football. Well, they played teams. So
Speaker 1: it's a really interesting, really deep group. Maybe he doesn't
Speaker 1: have like.
Speaker 3: The high ends the high yeah, but I think you
Speaker 3: make up for it with dolphins with committee too.
Speaker 1: You win my committee. The committee things excellent for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's the running backs. The other thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to just talk about here real quick is Deebo Samuel's role.
Speaker 1: We got a little taste of it we talked about
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, it seems like. So just as
Speaker 1: an example, like if if the running backs directly get
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen carries in the game, yeah right,
Speaker 1: or seventeen carries, Debo's getting.
Speaker 2: He gotta get touches. He gotta get touches.
Speaker 4: We had to get a huge volume of touches, Like
Speaker 4: you got to say to yourself going into the game,
Speaker 4: I gotta give him at least fifteen attempts. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: and no matter how attempt don't have a pass.
Speaker 1: Run yeah, run attempts. Yeah, because he's your joker.
Speaker 2: He's your joker.
Speaker 3: And guess what everything he could do fail to and
Speaker 3: kas Allen can do like from play slot receiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's a more proven and yeah, he's.
Speaker 3: A more different it's a different it's a different level
Speaker 3: a vehicle, but the same type of vehicle.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm excited to see what he does.
Speaker 1: And then I think the using me said the Debo
Speaker 1: was the joker. The ultimate joker to me is JD five.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, he's some something to be answer to, like.
Speaker 1: Because he's gonna get touches in the run, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: look like if we just talk about the touchdown real quick,
Speaker 1: like they're in man coverage. They're in drop eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so nobody was open, so oh yeah, they drop eight.
Speaker 1: So it's there's a plug, there's a middle high safety.
Speaker 1: There's a plug player in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: He works for his progression. And like I said this
Speaker 1: on another show I did, but like everyone's been freaking
Speaker 1: out about the man coverage and practice, like, if you
Speaker 1: play man coverage, you will get beat like your box
Speaker 1: to him, No, don't.
Speaker 2: You ever do that to a running quarterback.
Speaker 1: And so he just by him being on the field,
Speaker 1: he's gonna regulate what you run like. And guess what.
Speaker 3: The older he gets, right, the older he gets, the
Speaker 3: more he not gonna have to sickond guess how they're
Speaker 3: attacking him.
Speaker 2: And every time it never feels.
Speaker 3: I remember I played against Mike Vick when we were
Speaker 3: young peerless Price wide receiver. They had these group of
Speaker 3: wiree receivers. Me and Chat were like, don't you worry
Speaker 3: about that. We got there. They were like we going
Speaker 3: man to man like that might be a mistake. Coach,
Speaker 3: why you think that?
Speaker 1: Friend?
Speaker 3: Like because we playing Michael vic He was like, as
Speaker 3: long as y'all take the wire receivers out. We're gonna
Speaker 3: put everybody uh in the box for Warick done. And
Speaker 3: this in a game, I said, okay, do what you want.
Speaker 3: I remember running on the gold route with peerless turn
Speaker 3: around and Mike Vick running right beside. This is why
Speaker 3: I say don't play man against because if we were
Speaker 3: playing zone, I could have probably helped make that tackle
Speaker 3: game tackle ten years ago. So you you're gonna play
Speaker 3: the price when you won player against the quarterback that
Speaker 3: know how to breathe coverages to a guy that could
Speaker 3: take off in the drop of a dime like that,
Speaker 3: he will break the wheel of your defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So obviously that was kind of I think the
Speaker 1: bright spot of the off of the offensive game plan
Speaker 1: was the offensive line. I'm glad you brought that uptown
Speaker 1: of the run game and obviously Jane Daniel scoring. Now
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the defense. Anything you
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of just high level. We'll start with
Speaker 1: the defense.
Speaker 3: Yes, the big nasties up front wise, all the rest
Speaker 3: of these guys, they was on Joe Burrow in.
Speaker 1: That goal line stands too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kawn Martin making it kun might be stepping to
Speaker 3: I'm ready for the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4: Tell you that coming out of him, it looks like
Speaker 4: everything just slow, slow, slow for him now, like its
Speaker 4: just nothing's moving fast.
Speaker 1: He had we had an end game interview with him,
Speaker 1: and he said, like he feels super comfortable because this
Speaker 1: is the position he played coming into college and his
Speaker 1: first couple of years of college. He actually thinks of
Speaker 1: himself as a safety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, most definitely, and he should like his mental
Speaker 3: is meeting his physical and.
Speaker 2: Now he's ready.
Speaker 3: But when I seen that defensive line, the things they
Speaker 3: was doing the Borrow, like, I only wonder how Cincinnati
Speaker 3: fans feel because they had to be watching that game, like,
Speaker 3: what are we doing? Well, he's doing, get down, get down,
Speaker 3: get out of the game.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed what they did, flipping him on his.
Speaker 3: Neck like they was on full attack of Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: and so they want we won the trench warfare yesterday
Speaker 3: and I was when we was on the field. Now,
Speaker 3: we always talk about how big Ken Lawy is. We
Speaker 3: talk about it. He's a big ol' Hall, big old Hall.
Speaker 3: But that a Marus meals dude.
Speaker 1: Jason and I were just talking about that because he
Speaker 1: was on the sideline with me for the game. He
Speaker 1: looks so he's just like it looks real. He's a
Speaker 1: different cut of human being.
Speaker 3: The dude six eight, three fifth and I say three
Speaker 3: fifty is being nice.
Speaker 1: I think he's like three seventy. But he's also skinny.
Speaker 1: He's like he's not like fat. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: he's just a huge So like I was watching the
Speaker 1: past rush and I think Holmes had a really good game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's trying to bowl MARYU Smims. Wow, and it
Speaker 1: looks like Amarus Smims go to take a little name.
Speaker 1: But and Holmes had a great game. He he bullied
Speaker 1: the center, bullied the guard. But like you got gotta
Speaker 1: read the scouting report.
Speaker 2: I've been say wrong guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think our defense played well.
Speaker 4: I think what stood out to me just you know,
Speaker 4: I was looking for the young guy Aimos to be
Speaker 4: out there tweaked the ham Yeah, and you know, coach
Speaker 4: said that they actually want him to. He wanted to play,
Speaker 4: but they had to hold the mica like, bro, you
Speaker 4: don't have to go out there so much.
Speaker 1: But still the secondary looked it together.
Speaker 4: You see those guys communicating, getting to their different you know,
Speaker 4: I guess you can say coverages and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: And just I saw them playing together up front and
Speaker 4: in the back end.
Speaker 1: That's what you want to see, especially in the preseason.
Speaker 4: Like I take more so you know, when I'm watching
Speaker 4: these games, I'm not watching for who's you know, you're
Speaker 4: going to see guys flash, But I'm watching for what
Speaker 4: are we doing as a team as a unity, how
Speaker 4: we're playing together. And like I say, I'm paying more
Speaker 4: to the defenses because being a receiver, that's what we
Speaker 4: have to worry about. And so I'm always watching our
Speaker 4: defense to see if I was a receiver, what would
Speaker 4: I see?
Speaker 3: Where would I see they win weakness? Where would I
Speaker 3: find the weakness?
Speaker 4: And we all knew last year the run game was
Speaker 4: that we couldn't stop nobody running. And you saw it
Speaker 4: up front at times, you know what I mean, you
Speaker 4: didn't want to believe it, but you saw it. What
Speaker 4: I saw this so far in the preseason and just yesterday,
Speaker 4: to me, I mean, just just raise my eyebrows to
Speaker 4: see the d line playing, to see the linebacker play
Speaker 4: behind it. But not only that, when they wasn't, you know,
Speaker 4: running the football, what did we do in the back
Speaker 4: end while those guys was rushing the pass like it
Speaker 4: was times when Burrough went throw the ball now and
Speaker 4: couldn't do it, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 4: what that's the bright spot. We want to watch the defense,
Speaker 4: how it will they played together, and how that if
Speaker 4: that was a regular game, they would have been off
Speaker 4: the field three.
Speaker 3: And Outogamen did a good job on that was.
Speaker 1: A perfect chase. Was perfect, come dude, So I said this.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Jason about this. So we were
Speaker 1: standing directly even with the ref like, I'm here, the
Speaker 1: refs pritann Is, but he's like up on the sideline
Speaker 1: right there. So the ball comes by, I'm right here
Speaker 1: right there's a little bit of a bump, but nothing
Speaker 1: that I would have called. And yeah, none of the
Speaker 1: ref throws the flag. And I was like, that's weird.
Speaker 1: There's nothing he could have possibly seen. They go to
Speaker 1: the jumbo tron and there's like a little poll and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, that must have been what he's called.
Speaker 1: I am telling you from where we were standing, there
Speaker 1: is no way he could have seen it. So like
Speaker 1: for me, it felt kind of like.
Speaker 3: And enjoyed seeing get up to the challenge. This is
Speaker 3: the best way I receiving football.
Speaker 1: And so like that that penalty obviously gives him three yards.
Speaker 1: He sends the drive and uh.
Speaker 2: We still almost got a three in that did they
Speaker 2: have to go forward on fourth down?
Speaker 4: But you also have to think about this too, and
Speaker 4: this is like only I think it only happens to us,
Speaker 4: And like I said, this preseason and those things could
Speaker 4: be called. But if that's not Burrow, we don't get
Speaker 4: that horse callar call because it went really really a
Speaker 4: horse callers.
Speaker 1: He got him on the shoulder first, then he.
Speaker 3: Put his hand on his back, which technically I don't
Speaker 3: think I saw him going to call inside the show.
Speaker 3: The pad went in the shirt of the pocket anyway,
Speaker 3: So that one. Then the fumber one when the ball
Speaker 3: is not in your hand but you still push it
Speaker 3: out fumble.
Speaker 1: That's a fumble. So that's that's us. And then the
Speaker 1: one that you call you talking about that bump. I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this preseason?
Speaker 2: And are we home? Are we home? People don't do
Speaker 2: home cooking no more they do.
Speaker 4: No, it's only us man they do.
Speaker 3: You know sometime when you walk in the person house,
Speaker 3: you can just smell food in there. With that you
Speaker 3: mean cooking them days over it. You don't see nothing
Speaker 3: had those days. We never get the home cooking man
Speaker 3: he got. All we see is somebody on our ring
Speaker 3: dropping that bag out and taking out running.
Speaker 1: That's all we see. Oh my god. Yeah. Freddie talked
Speaker 1: about Trents warfare specifically. One guy that stuck out to
Speaker 1: me was kenlt Man, like in that goal line stand,
Speaker 1: like his ability to get his hands on people's shoulder pads,
Speaker 1: get them extended, he controls them and like he literally
Speaker 1: like threw a guard like direct, like headfirst into the ground,
Speaker 1: like and I was like, who is this guy? Who
Speaker 1: is this? I like?
Speaker 4: I like the fact too, when you when you're talking
Speaker 4: about that before we see the actual outcome of what
Speaker 4: he's going to be this playing weekend and week out.
Speaker 3: It's something that he said earlier, this this camp. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if it was a camp.
Speaker 1: I heard it. I heard it from either JP Feely
Speaker 1: or one knows.
Speaker 4: They was reporting talking to them and they were saying
Speaker 4: that they was already kind of gave him him the
Speaker 4: nod of hey man, you know, how does it feel
Speaker 4: to be you know, you know, really put some of
Speaker 4: your best word.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm not there yet.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm looking forward to showing now that with
Speaker 4: this opportunit only that they given me here, I'm for
Speaker 4: the play on my best football because I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1: So to have a guy that's.
Speaker 4: Mentally focused on being able to be that guy that
Speaker 4: the team thinks of him, man, that's what I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward to.
Speaker 1: And just now you've seen it in the game showing
Speaker 1: and I know it's so early still to kind of
Speaker 1: give him this, but like everyone was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: you paid him a lot of money, is that the
Speaker 1: right thing to do? Like seeing him now, it's like
Speaker 1: he's here.
Speaker 3: Favorite dollars you cannot buy size and the griss and violence, silence,
Speaker 3: control violence, you can't do it.
Speaker 1: And his and like we had a drawn paying for
Speaker 1: the interview for the big one hundred cast of the game,
Speaker 1: and it was good. I mean he was almost got
Speaker 1: hit by the camera truck on the side, almost got hit.
Speaker 1: Monday Night.
Speaker 3: The one thing you know about the Monday Night crew,
Speaker 3: all the balls and whistles will be out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But Durrand, who's played with a lot of good
Speaker 1: football players, is like he has done stuff that I've
Speaker 1: never seen before practice. He is a physical freak and
Speaker 1: you can see some of that, Like he was only
Speaker 1: in I think for eight plays, nine plays, but his
Speaker 1: ability to flash yes and bull and play with power.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if this coaching staff can continue to draw
Speaker 1: that out of him and put him in good positions
Speaker 1: to be successful, I think we.
Speaker 3: Brought him in here to to walk off the bus
Speaker 3: in one city and that's Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: To put that work on it, put the hands on him.
Speaker 3: Listen, Philadelphia, the people decide kings. They believe inside, they
Speaker 3: believe in turning them a COUI vect into a guard,
Speaker 3: Like I thought this guy was gonna be lined up,
Speaker 3: and then I seen drum pain in the game and
Speaker 3: the rum pain was playing the d tackle and he
Speaker 3: was playing on the side of him. I said, Oh,
Speaker 3: so they gonna match him up mostly between a guard
Speaker 3: and the inside shade of a tackle.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be hell on him. Yeah. And then you
Speaker 1: talk about trick like, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that powerful A powerful vegetarian. Powerful is he vegetarian?
Speaker 3: He's a veget He's an elementary.
Speaker 4: Like sometime you see him out, Dad, you be like,
Speaker 4: like the.
Speaker 3: Walking guy, Like it's the feet because his feet I
Speaker 3: think he wear like an eighteen. That boy running McDonald's
Speaker 3: out there all right down when I tell you, but
Speaker 3: when I tell you when he get out to that
Speaker 3: quarterback Arkansas guy, when I tell you about the Marcos.
Speaker 1: Heavy hands man, Yeah, you can just tell, like like
Speaker 1: when he puts his hands on offensive lineman like uh
Speaker 1: so Orlando Brown had a pass up against him. It's
Speaker 1: the horse collar. You could tell, like you could almost
Speaker 1: see his eyes on the on the field go like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know, I didn't know. And so like having
Speaker 1: that guy in the in the in the roller Dex
Speaker 1: and then Daurrance armstrong man for whatever reason, when you
Speaker 1: line him up over a guard or guard, he's like
Speaker 1: unblock of feast.
Speaker 2: I think it's his his quickness that they kidnp him.
Speaker 1: The guys have really opened things up for him. And
Speaker 1: he gets skinny in a half rate.
Speaker 2: You know how to turn his shoulders, yes, yeah, And.
Speaker 3: Once he turned his shoulder and start to reach out
Speaker 3: his his reach is what he uses to his advantage.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then like you still got the Jason
Speaker 3: Newton's you still got like.
Speaker 2: So many dudes in this past rush road.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And then like the flexibility that you
Speaker 1: have with frank you luvu, Like when he's playing that end,
Speaker 1: is he blitzing? Is the fire zone? Frankie had a
Speaker 1: couple of rushes on the back that were just like
Speaker 1: he just freaking murdered those running backs and he got
Speaker 1: jumped off side and got hit by the lineman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just tossed the line the damn tight end
Speaker 4: down like, yeah, you know what, don't touch me.
Speaker 3: I love to see him going down here, Like I
Speaker 3: love to see him going down here. Because one play
Speaker 3: Burrow held the cadence, so he showed him.
Speaker 1: He showed show.
Speaker 3: That's when they checked to uh the flair and uh
Speaker 3: Jaim Reeves played over the top.
Speaker 1: Made the great play by him.
Speaker 3: Jim jam Reeves is saying, you know what, I know
Speaker 3: him a special teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh like that tackle, Yes, it was unbelievable
Speaker 1: and that's what you want right there.
Speaker 3: And but guess guess who really made they play with
Speaker 3: Frankie lou because they know when he's going down here
Speaker 3: the Tasmanian Devil stopped saying nothing stopped, not but swap
Speaker 3: the paint.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so obviously we're really you can tell we're
Speaker 1: excited about what we saw and like went on the sideline.
Speaker 1: It sounds different, Like you always say you got to
Speaker 1: hear a defense, You got to hear they communicate so
Speaker 1: much better. They're so much more aggressive, and people like, oh,
Speaker 1: they gave up a touchdown, It's like, yeah, but they
Speaker 1: had a penalty and fourth down they had a kind
Speaker 1: of a ticky tack pass interference call.
Speaker 2: They did full I mean two for fourth downs they
Speaker 2: went for.
Speaker 1: Him, and so I just that group, the energy feels different, Yeah,
Speaker 1: feels exciting. And again like hopefully they stay healthy Tyler Owens,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Reeves, hopeing they can develop and find some roles.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it was fun to watch. It was
Speaker 1: fun to watch.
Speaker 4: And then, like you say, you know, we're looking at
Speaker 4: these preseason games and we don't get caught up into
Speaker 4: the you know, the wins and losses, continents, even the points.
Speaker 4: But when you see the guys that you're looking forward
Speaker 4: to seeing on Sundays go out there and perform at
Speaker 4: that level, it gives you something to look forward to.
Speaker 1: Like you just want to be like, hey, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to see the shade of what we've
Speaker 1: been seeing in practice. And I felt like they delivered
Speaker 1: and they clean it up. Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Is it perfect?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: And you did it against one of the best offenses
Speaker 2: in football.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They might be still trying to see where they are
Speaker 2: and what they doing.
Speaker 3: But you get no better than Joe Burrow, you get
Speaker 3: no better than Jamacha, you get no better than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And so that's our kind of defensive standout
Speaker 1: defense review. Uh, now, what's hold on?
Speaker 3: I gotta bring up one thing. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: love me some Kate Madrano.
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, he's actually playing some decent ball. He's playing
Speaker 1: some decent bob.
Speaker 3: But I'm call him out on his one play after
Speaker 3: they got the sack on Burrow. I think at the
Speaker 3: one yard line. You know, they ran it uh downhill
Speaker 3: and won the lead. It might have been a zone
Speaker 3: and Kate jumped it, yeah, and probably could have got
Speaker 3: a safe a safety. But he literally, I don't know
Speaker 3: if he closed his eyes missed it. He missed that
Speaker 3: at tacking they got like four year old.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing with him, man, is he he
Speaker 1: has his his instincts off the are way better than
Speaker 1: I would have thought. He feels that ball. It's the
Speaker 1: He's actually takes on blocks better than I thought too.
Speaker 1: It's the moment of the tackle, it's the point of
Speaker 1: a take. It's like, can I get this? Because he
Speaker 1: had one later where like he he like kind of
Speaker 1: he was getting off the block and he kind of
Speaker 1: tripped and he kind of missed the tackle on top. Yeah, reaching, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I look at him like, if you can
Speaker 1: get him and clean it up, yeah, because his he
Speaker 1: can cover ground, he's got good instincts. In the past game,
Speaker 1: It's like, but I think that's a good call out
Speaker 1: because like he played, he started the game, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: Bobby wasn't playing, and I thought he did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job. But again, there's some stuff to clean up
Speaker 1: there for him. But heading into Baltimore, let's talk about
Speaker 1: this because we don't really know who's gonna play. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Another good tist.
Speaker 3: We just played one of the miss outfits. Now we're
Speaker 3: playing one of the byss. Let's be honest, all time
Speaker 3: preseason teams out time. They take it very seriously. And
Speaker 3: this is for the forty the forty seventh spot, fifty
Speaker 3: third spot. This is where your teams tell you who
Speaker 3: they are. What the y'all? This is perfect. All right,
Speaker 3: this is toos yo tools against my threes, my threes
Speaker 3: against Yo two lists who got the best backups right now?
Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna get him a challenge, and.
Speaker 3: I'm sure coach Queen is gonna crank them up and
Speaker 3: showed him to Hey, we need to take.
Speaker 1: This seriously, like very seriously. No. I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And I think this is gonna be because the thing
Speaker 1: you said at the top of the show, Fred is like,
Speaker 1: am I gonna be an NFL football player? And this
Speaker 1: is the game, And so I just kind of want
Speaker 1: to say, like a couple of battles if you're a
Speaker 1: fan at home, to keep an eye on, and I
Speaker 1: guess I'll hit this off. Like so for me, what
Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna be, we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about, but I don't think we're talking about
Speaker 1: anymore was basically that eighth offensive line spot. After Chris
Speaker 1: Paul played in this game, you feel like it's lot dude,
Speaker 1: he is playing well, man.
Speaker 2: Like this coaching staff has did wonders with him.
Speaker 1: And you see him like it's always you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about Dietrich Wise his strength, like Chris Paul's hand
Speaker 1: strength is wild to me, like his ability just to
Speaker 1: grab full grown men and be like, no, dog, you're good,
Speaker 1: You're gonna stay right here. And so the fact that
Speaker 1: he's now coupled that with an awareness how to target
Speaker 1: runs all that kind of stuff, like I thought that
Speaker 1: was gonna be something to be talking about. I guess
Speaker 1: you could say, who's the ninth guy? Is it Deeter?
Speaker 1: Is it good Jones?
Speaker 2: Like I think is who Elva has got the most versatility?
Speaker 1: They might be Deeter? Yeah, that they might be dead.
Speaker 1: And then it's also now with the expanded practice squads,
Speaker 1: like maybe one of those guys gets the practice squad, but.
Speaker 2: They go to change and bad guys that you can
Speaker 2: get to keep on pres squad.
Speaker 3: No, but the problem is they got to make it
Speaker 3: through waivers, and other teams are quick to know I'm
Speaker 3: bringing them in.
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact thing, so I'm gonna butcher this.
Speaker 1: But if you want to know specifically looking up a basically,
Speaker 1: you can carry like four veterans that are more than
Speaker 1: four years experience. You can carry five veterans that are
Speaker 1: one year experience. You can carry ten rookies. You know,
Speaker 1: and so you can fill all those spots, but they
Speaker 1: kind of have to fit in those, right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I guess another spot, Fred, maybe you could give
Speaker 1: some inside of this is this is maybe one of
Speaker 1: the more interesting position battles, and I'm hoping someone kind
Speaker 1: of grabs it. Here is the receiver spot. I could
Speaker 1: not tell you anybody who stood out.
Speaker 4: Brooks is the only one that even stood out.
Speaker 1: No, McCaffrey Brooks, No, I think McCaffrey probably draft this. Fine.
Speaker 4: McCaffrey is here to be got him because he's project
Speaker 4: I think six or seven six with a practice squad guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's the thing that I'm with this.
Speaker 4: I think I think two of those guys would be
Speaker 4: more more so practice squad guys.
Speaker 1: Anyway, person you mentioned McCaffrey, I got to give him
Speaker 1: a shout out because everyone like, we didn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of targets in the game. But that is true.
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of times where he's running go balls.
Speaker 1: He's burned this guy and you've got like Sam Hartman
Speaker 1: or Josh Johnson, and you know, if Jade Daniels is in,
Speaker 1: he gonna hen he's gonna rip that. Yeah, so like
Speaker 1: he was able to create some separation down the field.
Speaker 1: So I just want to give him his right job.
Speaker 1: You had a tackles on team.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is that six wide receiver, is
Speaker 3: it gonna have to be a maven On Spresch team?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 4: The fifth one probably will be counted as the fifth
Speaker 4: one because of Lane playing both, because he's a facial
Speaker 4: team guy period.
Speaker 1: But Lane he'll be more like a fourth guy. But
Speaker 1: I think now that we're talking through, I think Luke
Speaker 1: is in right he So so we got five and
Speaker 1: then it's the sixth. I don't know if anybody's.
Speaker 3: Say solidified Brooks. I say Brooks kind of you know,
Speaker 3: I like that brook more than a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: Or is it or is it Mitchell Tinsley? And I
Speaker 1: say that kind of a little tongue in cheek because
Speaker 1: is that guy from a different Yeah, like is he
Speaker 1: on a different roster?
Speaker 2: Okay, I gat to throw that carvebot.
Speaker 3: I if since he put him on a roster, you
Speaker 3: better you may make sure you want bringing that guy
Speaker 3: back over here. I think what Mitchell Tinsley did was
Speaker 3: put some heat on the Jermaine Burden.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's supposed to doing that.
Speaker 2: He to be the third guy. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 2: he gonna make a push there.
Speaker 3: But you right that that wild card receiver could be
Speaker 3: on somebody else's roster right now.
Speaker 1: It's because me, like, I think Brooks has done a
Speaker 1: great job. But is he but you trust him in
Speaker 1: a real game to practice squad, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of my barometer. Is anyone kJ Osborne
Speaker 1: had a couple of catches in the game, but is
Speaker 1: he has he asserted himself to Kobe Jones. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: these are guys that I think are good, Like they're
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're good football players obviously, And I
Speaker 1: hate talking about guys getting cut because it's it's terrible.
Speaker 6: What about the keyd from Miami? Which kid from Miami
Speaker 6: they played for the no the one that did so
Speaker 6: he didn't really play a ton in the game, you know,
Speaker 6: So I don't I don't know. But that's where that
Speaker 6: that that that's an interesting one to me because no
Speaker 6: one's really like saying is my spot correct?
Speaker 1: Outside of lane?
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you about your position, dude.
Speaker 1: I feel like this one's locked. This one's been locked
Speaker 1: for a while.
Speaker 2: I think I don't know because cut yank.
Speaker 1: So this let me just say this. I think they
Speaker 1: were keeping four. This is just my thought, all right,
Speaker 1: And maybe because I'm a tight end, I always want
Speaker 1: to keep more right. So, but Earth's yeah Gates, yeah, Senate,
Speaker 1: and then Yankoff. He had two tackles on teams yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like really good tackles. I know. I know for a
Speaker 1: fact Yankoffs have rolls.
Speaker 4: Everybody eyebris and say hey, I'm gonna be here another.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is in my head because I know
Speaker 3: these coaches don't really sugar coat anything. I think yank
Speaker 3: I might go into the scene at the number three tighty.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean, that's something that's outside our pay
Speaker 1: grade obviously, and we trust and Quinn and the coaches listen.
Speaker 2: I just I feel it. I feel like he wasn't
Speaker 2: the jobs.
Speaker 1: Still, he's had a he's had a really good camps,
Speaker 1: a really good camp, and obviously he's a special team student.
Speaker 1: He is delivered in that ring.
Speaker 3: He the most twitchies of all of them outside of Zach.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Zach is subtle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zack is subtle and killing you with when you
Speaker 3: tried to try your granddaddy for the first time, and
Speaker 3: your granddaddy and got you on the cap you can't.
Speaker 3: That was Zach that got that old man screen and
Speaker 3: set the movie and the wasted movie yank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he can get in and out of cuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think the other one that I think
Speaker 1: is interesting too is like, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is decided in this game or if we're get
Speaker 1: into the regular season, is the nickel spot behind Mike Sandristo, right,
Speaker 1: because I think you see, I see a role for
Speaker 1: Tyler Owens as the big nickel. But Reeves has been
Speaker 1: playing like absolutely big Nicks psycho. Yeah, and he's been
Speaker 1: playing good in that role. So and I'm sure both
Speaker 1: those guys make the team.
Speaker 3: But like Jonathan Jones also got something to say about
Speaker 3: David Lausa, monogamy plays inside is a because he's a
Speaker 3: big cone.
Speaker 2: They can play inside.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if the guy we got from Baltimore
Speaker 4: plays the nickel, but he played he played safety will
Speaker 4: last Night twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, he did a really good job. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look hm up right now. You can keep talking
Speaker 1: on final damn.
Speaker 4: But he was bro every I mean what what excited
Speaker 4: me about his play is just you could tell when
Speaker 4: a guy can tackle and when you come from come from.
Speaker 1: Depp and make a tackle.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he was coming down here, played a lot
Speaker 3: of football.
Speaker 4: He came down here. He came out here a few
Speaker 4: times and made his presence felt and scene. So you know,
Speaker 4: he's the guy that jumped off the page to me
Speaker 4: and the preseason game that you never know might have
Speaker 4: a might earn a spot just from that performance.
Speaker 1: And kind of in that same vein as that linebacker
Speaker 1: from Utule one. Yeah, not came and Dronto what is
Speaker 1: his name? One? Right? Yeah, a bunch of time goodness.
Speaker 4: He took on a block all he ca Yeah, he
Speaker 4: took on a block, moved again again, he took He
Speaker 4: took a running back on in the first court the
Speaker 4: first second series, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I almost thought that was Wagner. I'm like,
Speaker 1: hold on boy that. I was really impressed with his
Speaker 1: ability to get downhill. You see some limitations and coverage,
Speaker 1: but the physicality.
Speaker 2: Rowley ran around there too. Do you know I played
Speaker 2: with Duke yeh Att.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah it was and he had this crazy
Speaker 1: like bleached mullet.
Speaker 3: No, no, got curly hairs, right, Yeah, I thought Duke
Speaker 3: Rowley ran around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think like they wanted to get more experience.
Speaker 1: And then you get those two young guys Caine and
Speaker 1: uh ca Ho playing really good balls, so that that
Speaker 1: room has really interesting me. And like every time I've
Speaker 1: done my pregame interview with Danny's always like I want
Speaker 1: to see the young linebackers, And now I'm starting to
Speaker 1: see why why yes? And so in a game where
Speaker 1: they're gonna play a lot like.
Speaker 3: And this is no better team than the Ravens. You
Speaker 3: want physicality, they got physicality. You won't size, they got size.
Speaker 3: You want intention to win, They have a pre intention
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 4: Do you think that us not having that time to
Speaker 4: practice against them is going to kind of do anything.
Speaker 1: I think it affixed the veterans more than because like
Speaker 1: they're so to me trump practice. We talked about them
Speaker 1: from an evaluation standpoint, from a preparation standpoint. As a player,
Speaker 1: I didn't like him, But from a coach Adams standpoint, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1: I don't think they play in the game, But but
Speaker 1: they're losing to practice, you know what I'm saying? Like
Speaker 1: that was the thing I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: I say this affect the veterans more because the veteran
Speaker 3: was gonna get most of the staffs in practice, and
Speaker 3: you know that was the pre layered preseason game for them.
Speaker 3: Now it's kind of like, let's see what they can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it's a whole switch of mode
Speaker 3: of thought, train of thought. If you know what, I'm
Speaker 3: special for a head coach because you thought you finna
Speaker 3: go swap some paint with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's like, all right, now we ain't.
Speaker 3: So now we got to make this game playing for
Speaker 3: the second screen guys and not the first screen guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And uh, I'm a little disappointed because I don't
Speaker 1: think Jade's gonna play. I really wanted to see him
Speaker 1: play some more. Not because he needs to play, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because I like watching him play. Well. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I just like, you know, it's just like a little
Speaker 1: kid you get to watch like good really good football,
Speaker 1: Like I want to see that. We meant I get
Speaker 1: in the third game.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I tried to watch Star Wars the other day,
Speaker 3: and every time I seen Luke skywalk, all I seen.
Speaker 1: Was Jayden face on it.
Speaker 3: I can't even I can't even watch no more. He
Speaker 3: is the Jedid to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like part of me is like I hope
Speaker 1: he plays because I want to watch him, but also
Speaker 1: I get if he doesn't play.
Speaker 2: Because I don't want to see Mike Green, that rookie.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's playing. Well, he's a ad dresser for Marshall Yoe.
Speaker 2: Yes, the one that took out Anthony Richison.
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, no, that was a day. But he had
Speaker 1: a good game.
Speaker 2: That was old Dale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, try to say that one. Yeah, yeah, that what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But Mike Green is yeah, so they got some dudes
Speaker 3: and this could be.
Speaker 2: Which we're not gonna see it. That's why I wanted
Speaker 2: them to practice against that.
Speaker 3: This could have been the best defensive backfield that we
Speaker 3: played against that with Wiggins, with Humphrees.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, it's disappointing, Like yeah, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't in the long in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. But I just I want to see
Speaker 1: Jay and Daniels play good teams.
Speaker 3: And Jazir Alexander, yeah, like and the safeties they get
Speaker 3: ye Hamilton that that that's why I want to see
Speaker 3: them practice against each other right there.
Speaker 2: I want to see them just before that reason.
Speaker 1: So we don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe they're not
Speaker 1: going to practice each other, Maybe the veterans play a
Speaker 1: little bit. Seems unlikely, but but we'll see. But yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of position battles to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: And we're really excited for that game. And because this
Speaker 1: is the this is the game that decides who's who's
Speaker 1: an NFL football Yeah, who's gonna make the fifty three
Speaker 1: who's gonna make that seventy man practice squad roster? But
Speaker 1: until then, until Friday at the Muni August twenty second,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do
Speaker 3: It for day show, fill my pop, mucking leave dream
Speaker 3: lean man,