Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you? Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong lost culture
Speaker 1: tired as hose of the mic, hose that the mic
Speaker 1: gonna come down? Maybe this is what we did. They
Speaker 1: have been coming down for days. When will they finally
Speaker 1: reach the bottom? Girl? Well, I think we we hit
Speaker 1: our bottom this morning. So let's full disclose. The last
Speaker 1: five six days have been a blitz and it's and
Speaker 1: it's been so lovely and so wonderful. But then yesterday
Speaker 1: we did finally sort of indulge ourselves in it. Maybe
Speaker 1: watching The Hours with a bunch of people in a
Speaker 1: cay hole. Basically what happened at the end of the
Speaker 1: Fire Island trip was we put on the film The
Speaker 1: Hour starting to call him in an Oscar winning performance.
Speaker 1: Get into that later, uh, And of course Miss Julianne
Speaker 1: Moore and the one the only Meryl Street, I don't forget,
Speaker 1: Tony Color, don't forget. And Claire Janes as Ed Harrod
Speaker 1: absolutely at Harrison Daniels really say that. Now, Um, what
Speaker 1: happens is you sort of get to the point in
Speaker 1: the Fire Island vacation, which we really ended up taking
Speaker 1: this weekend. We took the point the vacation sort of
Speaker 1: a preview of what's going to happen next month when
Speaker 1: we really go and sort of found ourselves sort of
Speaker 1: sitting around um with nothing to do except just indulge
Speaker 1: in the hours the two thousand to film. That is fine,
Speaker 1: Oh well, we don't have time to get into this.
Speaker 1: First of all, I've I've struggled today, You've struggled today.
Speaker 1: We've both struggled in different ways. One of the most
Speaker 1: emotional periods of my young life. Actually a very emotional day,
Speaker 1: and I think we are ending it in the th
Speaker 1: h e E the most Maga and the stallion the way.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. First of all, we want to
Speaker 1: say a huge thank you to everyone that's streamed Fire
Speaker 1: Island and is streaming Fire Island and you're literally bulling
Speaker 1: us over with emotions seriously, and this is not a joke.
Speaker 1: A lot of what we've said is so far has
Speaker 1: been sort of like a quote unquote joke. And sometimes
Speaker 1: when you listen to this podcast, a lot of times
Speaker 1: will be quote unquote joking, which something comedians do when
Speaker 1: they want to like not be too serious. So this
Speaker 1: part of the podcast is more serious when I say
Speaker 1: thank you for streaming Fire Island, You've been so kind,
Speaker 1: You've been so kind, Thank you so much for all
Speaker 1: the nice messages. Really, I mean, I feel so so blast.
Speaker 1: We live under a lucky starm We live under a
Speaker 1: lucky star, which I feel like I've been saying a
Speaker 1: lot and sort of, Um, what what kids get when
Speaker 1: they've been good is a treat as a treat, and
Speaker 1: so what what is heaven't today is we have sort
Speaker 1: of gathered into the studio Bowen and myself and our guests,
Speaker 1: and our guests who I believe is the cherry on
Speaker 1: top of the Fire Island Sunday, wouldn't you say? Bo?
Speaker 1: I think? Are not my words but the lovely SNL
Speaker 1: network twitter account has pointed out how our guest was
Speaker 1: the breakout star of the movie and share the screen
Speaker 1: with me in the past on Nanel sketch. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: I had known that I was going to be meeting
Speaker 1: one of my sister and that would have done it
Speaker 1: so different. You would have been so much nicer on
Speaker 1: set that way. I think the big, big bad wolf,
Speaker 1: the big bad wolf, big beautiful beautiful woman. You are
Speaker 1: such a big beautiful woman, Bo. You are a big
Speaker 1: beautiful woman. I think our guest is the biggest, most beautiful,
Speaker 1: most woman woman. And you know what happens to cherries,
Speaker 1: they get popped absolutely, so oh my god, coy laugh,
Speaker 1: our coy little guest is truly a talent, a superstar,
Speaker 1: a charismatic force of nature, charisma, pure talent, pure beauty person.
Speaker 1: And we are literally, um, we we've well. Iconically, we
Speaker 1: went to go see them in Hades Talent on Broadway
Speaker 1: and we told him we had to take a and
Speaker 1: they said, oh girl, I'm not in the show today,
Speaker 1: but let me knock knees and they did the show
Speaker 1: just for us. And iconically we were going to go
Speaker 1: see them in Diana and the Musical. But we all
Speaker 1: got o Macron. I did, I did, at least you did,
Speaker 1: and then I proceeded to get macron and then all
Speaker 1: of New York City got a Macron and so I
Speaker 1: think they did shut down the show really unfortunately, yes,
Speaker 1: and that was track, but none of that stopped this
Speaker 1: bitch from zeal Our Hearts and the Show and the
Speaker 1: Scenes A Viral Island directed by Andrewan, written by Jil
Speaker 1: Kim Booster, starring Bowen Yang Can I just say a
Speaker 1: new favorite line in the film, and then I've rewounded
Speaker 1: many many times today. What is it? Maybe they killed him.
Speaker 1: Maybe they killed him. We don't even know if anything happened.
Speaker 1: Maybe they killed him. It's so fun. And I have
Speaker 1: a little smile in that moment, which was very real,
Speaker 1: very real, And that's sort of how you know that
Speaker 1: the good energy and I'm I'm I'm getting tacked all
Speaker 1: right now. Um, that's how you know. The energy was
Speaker 1: really good and really real, and it was true sister life.
Speaker 1: It was sister support, sister life, sister energy. We're all
Speaker 1: getting tactile right now as we welcome true stardom into
Speaker 1: your ears. Everyone give it up for Thomas. Do what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Wow, and we're off to the racist. Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us on this podcast last that's what you
Speaker 1: have just iconically said. You don't really listen to it
Speaker 1: because you're my girls. I was like, why do I
Speaker 1: have to listen to them to catch up with those girl?
Speaker 1: You're probably yes, Wait, how is your okay? You you
Speaker 1: came for a day trip on the island yesterday. Your thoughts?
Speaker 1: What was the journey back? Like, what was the overall
Speaker 1: thought on the day honestly, I live for a day
Speaker 1: trip bed. You know, you get in, you do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do, and you get the home. Because I
Speaker 1: love my bed. Yeah, there's nothing like my bed. It's
Speaker 1: all other beds are so overrated. Describe it, describe, But
Speaker 1: what's your bed? Like? What's your bed? Situation? Client path?
Speaker 1: Unbelieving you are those things? Side that's soft and pussy
Speaker 1: like me, honestly, So what are we saying? Like? Is
Speaker 1: that a foam topper? I really want to know what
Speaker 1: it gives? It gives down alternatives, down, alternative in the
Speaker 1: pillow alternatives. What are what color the sheets right now?
Speaker 1: Right now? Is dark purple? And like I'm a run
Speaker 1: in the dark purple? Yeah, like majestic like tone on
Speaker 1: tone purple purple? Is your is your room giving colors?
Speaker 1: It gives um like lights in the corners and fairy light? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you still wait? Are you still in Starting Island
Speaker 1: right now? No, I'm in a little stublet right now.
Speaker 1: I left my grandma's apartment and found my own place
Speaker 1: for the for the time being. From staten to hear,
Speaker 1: from st to write the fun I'm sleeping in this
Speaker 1: It's actually be kind of the Honestly, I had an
Speaker 1: appartment Greenpoint that was this size. You'd have to pay
Speaker 1: six in this location at least a thousand dollars. O
Speaker 1: my god, bitch, it's been so great to reconnect with
Speaker 1: you and see you again. I haven't missed your ass.
Speaker 1: I really have missed job. Like I felt like there
Speaker 1: was a pizza ma hot missing. Yeah, and now it
Speaker 1: felt like I feel like I got my growth bag.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I literally once we
Speaker 1: left Fish at the end of the wrap and we
Speaker 1: all did wrap together, and that was a tier feunit moment.
Speaker 1: I literally like it had been like the weeks had
Speaker 1: gone by and I hadn't talked to Fish, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, am I abandoning Fish? Like I need
Speaker 1: to reach back out to fish. No, I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, we had to just swim on our own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are these are fish. I don't think I'm fish,
Speaker 1: but you two are fish because you're both Pisces, and
Speaker 1: you're both you're you're both serving fish, and we were
Speaker 1: sort of we're sort of but we but also we
Speaker 1: had to be Thomas and I as Keegan and Luke
Speaker 1: in the film The Kitty and Olydia we had to
Speaker 1: be one organ and we we melted right into each
Speaker 1: other right away. I did, bitch. We became the two
Speaker 1: fish in the pis sign. Yes, the two fish in
Speaker 1: the Pisces sign. Why don't I know? I believe there
Speaker 1: are I believe there are two. I think it is
Speaker 1: Pisces is you can It is a way to be
Speaker 1: like you want a sixty nine, You can say you
Speaker 1: want to Pisces. You in the Equinox stame room one time,
Speaker 1: literally we had just started shooting. This is like last
Speaker 1: year in the late summer. I'm at the Equonox and Williamsburg.
Speaker 1: I see Fish like sort of getting trade down Giving
Speaker 1: day and sort of like stalking in the halls looking
Speaker 1: fucking so hot. Truly, this is also one of the
Speaker 1: most beautiful individuals in the damn world. And I went over.
Speaker 1: I went over to Fish and I said, tread day,
Speaker 1: tread day all day? What's going on? What is on
Speaker 1: the menu for tonight? And he was like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be And then so we know where you're trolling. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like the girls who get it get it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I tend to get it. In the Equinox steamroom.
Speaker 1: I feel like I shouldn't even be saying that though,
Speaker 1: because that's like a brand advertisement page for Equinox. I
Speaker 1: bet this sales about to raise the funk up because
Speaker 1: I said that because I want to find I want
Speaker 1: to find Tomas in the steam room, um Columbus Circle
Speaker 1: location normally about what we're doing it, Williams. William is
Speaker 1: like the maybe one of the gayer ones that that
Speaker 1: is like crazy. Yeah, I definitely has that reputation for sure.
Speaker 1: I go to the one in Hollywood, the Equinox Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and you do see you do get the sense that
Speaker 1: there are eyes on you. Yeah. I kind of live
Speaker 1: for it though. Okay, so can you walk us through,
Speaker 1: like how do you dream scenario? How do you do it?
Speaker 1: Because neither of us have ever hoped never we said
Speaker 1: this is al we're saying. We we need you to
Speaker 1: be our sense I have fish, our fish. I Okay.
Speaker 1: My favorite reason why I like it is because there's
Speaker 1: no talking. And if you start talking to me and
Speaker 1: we in the theme room, I'm like it's over. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to have a conversation with I'm trying to
Speaker 1: talk to your dig Do people try to have a conversation, yes,
Speaker 1: And That's when I'm like, and now what do I know?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fine, let's get this going. Come on.
Speaker 1: That's Andrew's first movie. Spot is basically just like wordless,
Speaker 1: like dead ass? What a guy? That's Do you believe
Speaker 1: that our film has? Should our film have awards? Buzz?
Speaker 1: Should we started here on this pop culture puzz? Yes?
Speaker 1: Should we break the news that we have awards? Buzz?
Speaker 1: I think? I think honestly, if we don't get MTV
Speaker 1: Movie and TV Awards, numbs and indie spirit and glad
Speaker 1: and glad. You hear that shellby a Searchlight, Okay, start
Speaker 1: pushing come she will come through. She no isn't and icon.
Speaker 1: I think let's shout out. We had a publicist at
Speaker 1: Searchlight who was a felt icon, and we found out
Speaker 1: that she at drag Coon got Did you see what
Speaker 1: she has on her tooth? A little gold squiggle like
Speaker 1: a jewel on ath? She got a tooth to I
Speaker 1: didn't even hear about this. Did you know about tooth
Speaker 1: gems which all the like cunt bitches have tooth? Okay,
Speaker 1: but like but like because she was Shelby was saying,
Speaker 1: it's going to take two years. This is just like
Speaker 1: you have it on, you have it on, it gets
Speaker 1: glued on. Okay, that to me is unreal to say,
Speaker 1: I'm here at drag coon. Let me, let me get
Speaker 1: this thing on my tooth, not even a far back tooth.
Speaker 1: One of the tooths. Do you see when you smile?
Speaker 1: One of the main girls. It's one of the main
Speaker 1: girl in your mouth. There are main girls that you
Speaker 1: see when you smile. It's actually a little culture at
Speaker 1: number four. There are main girls that you see when
Speaker 1: you smile. And these are what we call the main girls. Really,
Speaker 1: it's one to three four. See the ones I'm pointing
Speaker 1: to four we call Prye, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte. And
Speaker 1: then we got over here, miss thing who went splat
Speaker 1: out the window. Yeah, that's the tooth that Shelby had
Speaker 1: had bedazzling one. I do right here on the girl who.
Speaker 1: But the only thing is when you're incisus. Yes, my
Speaker 1: incisive is giving vampire ding. It's just so hard. I
Speaker 1: feel like, because you know, I walk face, I feel
Speaker 1: like that is an immediate chop to be like, what
Speaker 1: do you have on your tooth? Bitch? Do you think
Speaker 1: it's an immedia chop? Because then they might be like,
Speaker 1: are you hiding something? Do you do you like, do
Speaker 1: you have the nose ring on when you when you
Speaker 1: walk face? I'm not supposed to. Are you supposed to?
Speaker 1: So for every for everyone that doesn't know Thomas walks
Speaker 1: face in actual balls period, how's the Miaki down Beach legendary?
Speaker 1: Season two legends? Here we go. Let let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. So, are you supposed to be presenting clean
Speaker 1: cunt face, like you know, relying on any accessor rosses. No,
Speaker 1: unless the category calls for an accessory, unless they're like
Speaker 1: bring it, bring it, like into the to the boardroom
Speaker 1: and you have to wear glasses exactly, give and give
Speaker 1: boardroom kind. But I feel like for the most part,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to give like fresh no accessory sort of thing,
Speaker 1: which is damn. I'm like, damn, but I want a tooth, Jym,
Speaker 1: you want a tooth? Jam. It's accessories a category. No, no,
Speaker 1: not a category, but it's access It's like a theme
Speaker 1: on face you think that you can do, but still
Speaker 1: they'll give you like a certain thing. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like you're saying, like like executive, I mean I've seen
Speaker 1: I've I've seen you walk face just only on Instagram,
Speaker 1: but it is like truly captivating. Have you seen have
Speaker 1: you seen? Yes, I've seen, I've seen fishes content. We
Speaker 1: have not been an advitag of. I want to come
Speaker 1: to a ball. Oh, it's come through Latex ball. That's
Speaker 1: that's the day of the Culture Awards. Is that night.
Speaker 1: It's a night when the are things to night? Oh wait,
Speaker 1: actually it might be like a dayball. Really. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: we'll have to get in from Providen. Girl, if you
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe it, the schedule keeps a scheduling. Girl is
Speaker 1: giving pride down. It's giving pride the most exhausting month
Speaker 1: of the year. It is June one six. I've never
Speaker 1: been the start she's giving marathon. Yeah, and I'm not
Speaker 1: a run. I'm I don't run. You really don't run
Speaker 1: in the gym when I spied you, No, girl, I'd
Speaker 1: like to, you know, let out, yeah, live, find out
Speaker 1: where the girl to go in. Yeah, stay in one
Speaker 1: spot in the gym so we can actually purvey and survey.
Speaker 1: But because you get to stay in one place technically
Speaker 1: and just like on a treadmill at least, and there's
Speaker 1: some scope out the place. Wait, that's actually a very
Speaker 1: good bitch. And did you know did you know too
Speaker 1: that you you you burned barely a little bit more
Speaker 1: calorie running than you do walk. You just walk at
Speaker 1: a brisk pace and it's basically the same calories and
Speaker 1: then you won't have to sweat. Yeah, yeah, Fish, he's
Speaker 1: so smart. Or your big sisters, your uncle, my uncle,
Speaker 1: em my crazy uncle. But I was telling, I was
Speaker 1: telling Jos. I was like, all right, I keep forgetting
Speaker 1: that you're because you have the old spirit down down
Speaker 1: but still with the youth. Damn you think. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at you all times. Tell me about so tell
Speaker 1: me about because we know. But the people want to know,
Speaker 1: like you went to La Guardia High School, popped off
Speaker 1: there because you have to study something. They're like, what's
Speaker 1: the two everything. I was a dance major, so I
Speaker 1: did like a block of dance and then all the
Speaker 1: academics after or like it would be switched depending on
Speaker 1: my year. My senior year, it was like all academics
Speaker 1: and then dance. So what I would normally do is
Speaker 1: skip all my academics and then just come for dancer.
Speaker 1: Because I was like, which I have, Like I'm about
Speaker 1: to be a stought. I don't need to know global history,
Speaker 1: basic no shade, river valleys, etcetera. Mesopotamia. You've answered every
Speaker 1: question of girl, I'm done. I don't need to know
Speaker 1: that the mitochondria is the motherfucking powerhouse that all girl,
Speaker 1: I don't care. It sounds like is the powerhouse of
Speaker 1: the cell. Wow, the twenty four year old jumped out
Speaker 1: that proximity to high school. That's honestly, that sentence alone
Speaker 1: is absolutely the mitochondria. It's actually really culture number seventeen.
Speaker 1: The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. Is a
Speaker 1: cunt sentence that's on period And that's so. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: basically because you go to the fame high school, l
Speaker 1: Guardia High School, are they like sort of lacks of
Speaker 1: dais agal with the academics of it all because they
Speaker 1: know they have the talent in the house. Are they
Speaker 1: in the whip? I mean, like yes and no. Like
Speaker 1: I think I had a really good relationship with my
Speaker 1: teachers and also the principal bitch, so I remember, like
Speaker 1: it got to a point where I literally just be
Speaker 1: like and I still talked to the teachers from there,
Speaker 1: like I would just be like, can you just can
Speaker 1: you pass this so I can get the up out
Speaker 1: of here. It was giving, It was giving teachers, but
Speaker 1: like they are now my girls, you Knowah, So yeah,
Speaker 1: what was the vibe like, because I've always I feel
Speaker 1: like it's the school that everyone is so curious about
Speaker 1: and I'm sure like you probably get so annoyed like
Speaker 1: being asked about it, But like, is the vibe like
Speaker 1: everyone's trying to be a star, of course, right, but
Speaker 1: like is it like every big person. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine going to a school like that,
Speaker 1: well where everyone's super super super so talented. It's definitely
Speaker 1: giving talent. Everyone was so talented, and I think especially
Speaker 1: because I was a dance major and now going into
Speaker 1: film and TV, it's kind of like like people are like, wait,
Speaker 1: what you know, it's kind of like questionable for a
Speaker 1: dancer to be like, you know, but that happens all
Speaker 1: the time, I think so. But I mean, like everyone
Speaker 1: who came from the Guardia was a drama major, right,
Speaker 1: NICKI Minaj Drama major? Yeah, remember drama major. Azelia Azelia
Speaker 1: vocal ma Azelia sings down trumpet major Like like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: gave instrumental, It gave instrumental. Yeah, well, I honestly, and
Speaker 1: this was It was like that at n YU two
Speaker 1: because I was a writing major and Tish and I
Speaker 1: tried I to dip my toe into some acting stuff
Speaker 1: and some people were supportive, but other people were very like,
Speaker 1: why don't you do your thing? Like like they felt threatened.
Speaker 1: I think that someone from one pursuit would want to
Speaker 1: do another thing, or like everyone should stick to their
Speaker 1: own thing because it is competitive and that does kind
Speaker 1: of come from the environment. Yeah, but like we multi
Speaker 1: hyper a guy, so might as well do it all
Speaker 1: if we can. We can your multi hyphen it in
Speaker 1: that you sing, act dance. You know what the funk
Speaker 1: Mitochondria is good to me. It's giving, it's giving quadruple threats,
Speaker 1: single act. Mitochondria's let's sail. You did like science? I
Speaker 1: know it. I mean like, but no, bit it definitely
Speaker 1: depends like an AP class. No, it's not giving extra work. No,
Speaker 1: you would be a good biologist. You think this you
Speaker 1: would look at because you certainly serving body giving biology down. Man,
Speaker 1: let me get it to these memories. Remember when we
Speaker 1: would take photos in the beginning, and then me and
Speaker 1: Tom Moss were sort of like crotch the butt and
Speaker 1: then she she was like, it's getting dick. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: oh my god, wait was this on the beach that
Speaker 1: photo shoot? I think it was on the giving to
Speaker 1: it was giving top this thing fish, you packing rude,
Speaker 1: no shade? This is shade. If I'm packing no shade
Speaker 1: and giving talk. It was definitely. Yeah, that was that was.
Speaker 1: That was day one. Remember, Yeah, It's so funny to
Speaker 1: watch the movie and then be like, just how out
Speaker 1: of order it all is. That day when we're all
Speaker 1: laying out and I've got the sunscreen on my stomach
Speaker 1: and We're talking about what happened the night before. That
Speaker 1: was the first day. I remember being so nervous that day.
Speaker 1: Really talk about how you felt in the beginning. Definitely,
Speaker 1: like I mean, you know, it was uncharted territory for
Speaker 1: me to be like stepping into like starring in a movie,
Speaker 1: coming from like Broadway. Um, so it was just it
Speaker 1: was nerve wracking. But it was also I felt very safe,
Speaker 1: which is not something that I think I can say
Speaker 1: for a lot of places like I felt. And I
Speaker 1: think it was because you know, we were all queer
Speaker 1: and we all come from the same family that I
Speaker 1: really felt like, oh I can be myself. And Andrew
Speaker 1: was so supportive and like we we all just like
Speaker 1: really clicked really well. So it felt really good that
Speaker 1: like I felt safe, bitch. I felt like I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, I can do this, and I am
Speaker 1: capable of doing this, and so let me just do this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is so obvious to say, but I've been saying it,
Speaker 1: which is that, like the thing that I think makes
Speaker 1: it read that we are this family unit is that
Speaker 1: Andrew did set us down before the table reading was
Speaker 1: like everybody share a story about either going to Fire
Speaker 1: Island or like your favorite vacation memory. And I think
Speaker 1: that like locked it in for all of us, like
Speaker 1: we all like I don't know, there was just one
Speaker 1: pass of that question just like made it all congeal
Speaker 1: and like all of us were able to go into it.
Speaker 1: I think, like I don't. I don't think there was
Speaker 1: that much of a growth. I think it pretty quickly
Speaker 1: started out like okay, like let's do this. We're a unit.
Speaker 1: I think that what's what's really fun about it is
Speaker 1: like it did feel like, well, it's really all about chemistry, right,
Speaker 1: which is like not something you can explain just either
Speaker 1: is or it is not. And the thing about the
Speaker 1: five or six of us counting Margaret, is like it
Speaker 1: is giving very different individuals, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: and when you throw it all together, it seems to work.
Speaker 1: I think also because everyone has a lot of respect
Speaker 1: for each other and like everyone is their own vibe. Um.
Speaker 1: But I do remember, like like when knowing that we
Speaker 1: were about to be Flatsam and Jetsam to spending all
Speaker 1: day yesterday in the pool, that was I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do this every time I go to
Speaker 1: a pool party. So you want to know what I
Speaker 1: was doing while that was happening, Girl, getting numbers? Girl,
Speaker 1: I hooked up upstairs? You did? Oh someone I met there?
Speaker 1: And you know I needed it at the time. Yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: it was a brief moment, it was, but fab And
Speaker 1: also I was just feeling like so like I don't
Speaker 1: know because you know what it is, like we were
Speaker 1: just talking about before you got in here, like when
Speaker 1: you go to that island. Like even though like we
Speaker 1: come from it now of a place of like we've
Speaker 1: experienced it, we've done it. We even did a movie
Speaker 1: that examined a lot of the themes about it, you
Speaker 1: still feel a certain type of way when you go there,
Speaker 1: like we're talking like our anxieties are still there. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, it's so weird to
Speaker 1: come back even after the movies come out and still
Speaker 1: feel the same way I did like six years ago,
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, I feel a little inadequate.
Speaker 1: I feel a little inferior, like to like or not
Speaker 1: paid attention to it, like that's what the movie is.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's sad, if that that
Speaker 1: like I haven't progressed past it, or that I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh no, this is just this is just like how
Speaker 1: I experienced. I don't know. I think it's more than
Speaker 1: you think. Yes, it's so universal. I think all three
Speaker 1: of us experienced one. I feel like it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I felt the exact same way yesterday. I was like,
Speaker 1: I think especially because I'm sober now and I'm like
Speaker 1: going to the island of the potty, Yeah, it still
Speaker 1: feels like and that's why I was like so happy
Speaker 1: I had you to just like Kikey in the pool, yes,
Speaker 1: because it was really like I felt, I felt like
Speaker 1: no shade scared. I was like, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it felt good to like, you know, be with my girls.
Speaker 1: You know, you really always do present like an air
Speaker 1: of confidence and an air of like security with yourself,
Speaker 1: but still like I often feel like maybe people think
Speaker 1: that about me too, and like I'm often way more
Speaker 1: socially anxious than I put on like all the time.
Speaker 1: Like even talking about talking about that first day, even
Speaker 1: having known bow and Angel, like I still walked into
Speaker 1: that being like scared of ship. And there you come
Speaker 1: in like way younger than us, like probably, I mean
Speaker 1: you obviously knew who Bowen was. Maybe you knew like Joel,
Speaker 1: probably knew Margaret, you know what I mean. That had
Speaker 1: to be an intimidating thing, and you come in with
Speaker 1: like the star qualities, you know. But and then I
Speaker 1: remember you expressed that you were feeling like imposter syndrome,
Speaker 1: and I remember I reached out to you because I
Speaker 1: was like, you would never know and everyone is so
Speaker 1: fucking psyched that you're here. And like then the movie
Speaker 1: comes out now and everyone's like tomasts and absolutely and
Speaker 1: I forgot how excited I was for everyone to meet love.
Speaker 1: It's giving, it's getting chosen. There's that little video of
Speaker 1: the three of us, like that there was the last
Speaker 1: sort of it's giving chosen cho That was giving chosen
Speaker 1: for sure, but no, like this level will never flop.
Speaker 1: This level never flop truly, do you remember? Okay, so
Speaker 1: besides the little Zac sketch, the Pride, the Pride sketch,
Speaker 1: I remember the moment that I like Thomas and I
Speaker 1: like Matt, which was in the van on the weight
Speaker 1: of the table. Yes, you were. You were on the iPad.
Speaker 1: Thomas had a little iPad with the keyboard, and they
Speaker 1: were like, this makes me feel cut and just like
Speaker 1: giving studious cut girl, like start paperwork. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I was doing. Yeah, yeah, I was like
Speaker 1: probably looking at the scripts. I just lived with like
Speaker 1: you know, a laptop iPad. Yeah, just as like executive client.
Speaker 1: You know. I felt like yeah, behind, But it was
Speaker 1: a moment you're like, oh my god, this person like
Speaker 1: wow in their own stardom, but it's just exciting to have,
Speaker 1: like on the movie quote unquote. It was just like, oh, perfectly,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be some way time with this person. This
Speaker 1: is so so cool. Well what were you feeling like when,
Speaker 1: because because for us it was like we have to
Speaker 1: be literally half of one person. And remember Andrew said
Speaker 1: to us, like, I really don't want almost any shots
Speaker 1: where you're not both in the same shot, like pretty
Speaker 1: much on top of each other. So were you feeling
Speaker 1: nervous about medi me? Honestly, no, I feel it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like, but I was also like no, like
Speaker 1: I feel like whoever is going to be and I'm
Speaker 1: very happy it ended up being you who because we
Speaker 1: messed so well. Literally, I was like, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: show up and show out, bitch, and we're gonna key
Speaker 1: and that's what we did, honestly, because I guess like
Speaker 1: I feel like in my life, I know what it's
Speaker 1: like to have like a real sister, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like this is the one right here. So
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's meet this bit. And
Speaker 1: then you came in. It was just immediate and I
Speaker 1: remember what we we like this and this always makes
Speaker 1: me nervous, Like tell me if this makes you feel nervous,
Speaker 1: like whenever, like you're interested scenario like, um, listen to me.
Speaker 1: Scenario where you have were like telling those stories about
Speaker 1: Fine Island and stuff and like sharing our experiences. And
Speaker 1: then then he got us up on our feet to
Speaker 1: block a scene. The first blocking I'm always having a panick.
Speaker 1: I hate rehearsal. I feel like I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I come from Broadway. I felt I
Speaker 1: felt so good doing that. I felt like that was
Speaker 1: for me, the thing that messed it all together, because
Speaker 1: that was the first time I think, and y'all get tactile. Right.
Speaker 1: The time that we get that, we all like kind
Speaker 1: of we got to touch absolute down. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: we never stopped. Literally we went home together. You did
Speaker 1: no fist day. I came up with two new bits,
Speaker 1: basically me whatever mean to us to each other. Were
Speaker 1: just like quoting old bits, but we added to new
Speaker 1: ones to the next, which is for the first one
Speaker 1: is to to just like to just give like full
Speaker 1: jaw drop like gape as as a reaction with someone
Speaker 1: else does. The second thing is to add this sound
Speaker 1: to the end of any sentence, like like like you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to instead of like a tongue pop
Speaker 1: or something, you go wow, like it's giving, like it's
Speaker 1: giving stars born down at the end of anything. But
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the mouth of gape though, is
Speaker 1: really the mouth gap is good? I mean, my favorite
Speaker 1: thing you do is disassociated associates, it dissociates, the asteroid dissociates. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: on the podcast the associating, We're gonna ask that you
Speaker 1: kindly not dissociate for this next question. All right, So
Speaker 1: this is what the question is giving. And this is
Speaker 1: sort of the big central question of our podcast, Last
Speaker 1: Culture sty Culture Podcast hosted by Matt Rogers and Bone Yangak.
Speaker 1: We ask you and every guest that comes through here,
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culture was
Speaker 1: for you? So this is as you're growing up, you're young, Thomas,
Speaker 1: you are coming of age in the world, and something
Speaker 1: when you experience in pop culture or in culture around
Speaker 1: you that you look back and you feel like that
Speaker 1: was formative. Okay, I have it. I want to see
Speaker 1: if you guys think guess it from like a little thing? Okay,
Speaker 1: I just think Gemma is fat? Are you about to
Speaker 1: say talk about the cultural importance of Tiffany. I feel
Speaker 1: like Tiffany New York Pollardy was and icon still still
Speaker 1: is an icon. I just buy Pumpkin by Pumpkin, slap me,
Speaker 1: bit do it? Do it? Scarves me? Because Bowen will
Speaker 1: scream it so loud out of nowhere. I would do
Speaker 1: it on made it to the movie. Did you can
Speaker 1: hear it? We're all yelling at right, like all yelling Juett.
Speaker 1: That was Tiffany Pollard is in the movie. Tiffany has
Speaker 1: had a cultural impact, not just on you, but on
Speaker 1: the film. So do you know from was it from
Speaker 1: favor from the jump? It was Flavor of Love? The
Speaker 1: first season she was on, and she came back and
Speaker 1: it was like, like a guest, I just want to
Speaker 1: say that I'm back and I feel sorry for these girls.
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for these girls whatever what it was like,
Speaker 1: ship up tasty, you don't this is in a soup
Speaker 1: kitchen or whatever the funk she would say. She was
Speaker 1: like Luther Vey Dross. So many good lines, truly, and
Speaker 1: and even after it's the lines after Flavor of Love
Speaker 1: and I Live New York that are underappreciated, to which
Speaker 1: like such as like break a leg? What did you say?
Speaker 1: Did you say to me? I said, break a leg.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna That's what I'm gonna do. Okay, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: she's telling me to break my legs. I just say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break your leg. Break a leg is what
Speaker 1: we say to something we want to wish them luck,
Speaker 1: just the scene of her going I'm covering. So what
Speaker 1: is it about her? What is it? Unabashed power? Do
Speaker 1: you remember when you first saw Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: like her her like unapologetic authenticity. Tiffany New York Pollard
Speaker 1: is Tiffany New York Pollard. Yeah, people cannot be and
Speaker 1: people love her for it, you know, kind of like
Speaker 1: which was which was going to be my second one?
Speaker 1: If I could pick two? Yeah? You actually there's you
Speaker 1: think and there is like a d NA like a
Speaker 1: line of one percent. How are you doing? Maybe? Is
Speaker 1: that okay? Okay, okay, okay? Is that is that the
Speaker 1: spiritual spiritual grandfather of I think? Ye? So that was
Speaker 1: Thomas's number one. I kind of think, is I should
Speaker 1: make Yeah, w I d your clothing that is called
Speaker 1: you Really Are? That's Machina Armold. I love you really
Speaker 1: are girl. I mean it is just like a perfect example. Okay.
Speaker 1: Let's first off, I thinking about must ensemble and I
Speaker 1: was doing it yesterday and I was like, that was
Speaker 1: so funny, like just knowing fish in real life. And
Speaker 1: then the trade of the stage girl was really he
Speaker 1: definitely gives yeah, I think and honestly, no shade. I
Speaker 1: think the reason why I can do that is because
Speaker 1: I had to at one point for life, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to, yes. But now I'm at this point,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm so happy that this movie is
Speaker 1: out because I feel like I can use it to like, yes,
Speaker 1: really just create my own path. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to be doing that ship no more. No, it's not
Speaker 1: giving trod day but just giving Cunt. Yeah, I understand,
Speaker 1: it's giving fish down, fish down. I feel like Kegan
Speaker 1: is like something I don't know, Like I love that
Speaker 1: this movie is and I keep saying, this is like
Speaker 1: represents like a complete queer person. In a way, Kegan
Speaker 1: is like this complete queer person where like they never
Speaker 1: have to it's explain themselves. They just show instead of
Speaker 1: they tell, Like both Luke and Keegan are people who
Speaker 1: it's immediately clear what the relationship is. It's immediately clear
Speaker 1: like how these people are the same and different. And
Speaker 1: then but I think that's really nice that you say
Speaker 1: that that you can point to the move and go,
Speaker 1: this is like closer to who I am. I think
Speaker 1: it's like the gift of it all that I could
Speaker 1: be like And I think I'm so happy that I
Speaker 1: was able to like be myself and Keegan. You know,
Speaker 1: so when you when you've got the script, obviously it's
Speaker 1: not and this is gonna be one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's like people forget like that, like that had
Speaker 1: to be brought to it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: something else before you came. I really want to know
Speaker 1: what the role was supposed to be. Well, you tell
Speaker 1: us because the audition side, so you get you see
Speaker 1: it on the page, and then what is Keegan giving
Speaker 1: on the page? I literally saw it and I was like, bitch,
Speaker 1: I say this, I don't even like, oh, I'm literally
Speaker 1: just gonna be me. I like that like the easiest
Speaker 1: thing to do instead of like having to create a character.
Speaker 1: I was like, bitch, I'm just going to be like myself, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it was so easy to
Speaker 1: just like show up, you know, and not to tie
Speaker 1: it back. But that's New York. That's like she's herself exactly.
Speaker 1: I would let Geman know that she is a fat cunt.
Speaker 1: And the shoes that she brought she gave for me
Speaker 1: were not something that I would particularly were for myself.
Speaker 1: They were made in type of shoes and she should
Speaker 1: have put them back on the rack. If that was
Speaker 1: the case, Um, she does not possess the vernacular that
Speaker 1: she thinks. She to her several times and why and
Speaker 1: she is nothing. She is nothing of the sword, and
Speaker 1: that she is nothing of the sword. True? It is
Speaker 1: you did right. You would win many awards. You've been
Speaker 1: win many awards. Off the off, the off, the top, off,
Speaker 1: the dop, off the do you dream your dream? Yes,
Speaker 1: yes you do. Y'all Wait, new York? Was we went?
Speaker 1: I went today high school? This is the ninth grade.
Speaker 1: And the two different people were like, have you been?
Speaker 1: Do you know New York? This girl on Flavor of Love?
Speaker 1: You guys have to like like and this is all
Speaker 1: of us like in high school being like who is
Speaker 1: New York? Ceris New York? It was like when Britney
Speaker 1: Spears got famous. Third grade, it was like, yeah, one
Speaker 1: day there was New York. It was like a star
Speaker 1: is born. Vibes. It was something girl, tell me something? Girl,
Speaker 1: is you happy? And damn, there's that silky basement. It's
Speaker 1: you know, it's been a long weekend. I'm a little
Speaker 1: horse bitch. One of the funniest things about life is
Speaker 1: that you're on that low harmony and sometimes I'm on
Speaker 1: the high army. I know that. I feel like that
Speaker 1: track you're saying, you know, the bottom bunk and a
Speaker 1: top bunk. Yeah, it's giving bottom. Nowadays it's giving bottom
Speaker 1: over there. I mean I think. So I'm trying to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, step into my versatility. Right, that's good. It's
Speaker 1: hard though, it is no Sha. When I was your age,
Speaker 1: I was terrified of it, like yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you were not. I've always been sort of like, I
Speaker 1: mean whatever, yeah, whatever. But I think, okay now that
Speaker 1: can I can we get real now? The thing that
Speaker 1: I'm hearing is that enemas are back. What do you
Speaker 1: mean For the longest time, I thought enemas were not.
Speaker 1: We're not okay because they tend arized you too much. Well,
Speaker 1: I think abuse of an enema doing it too much.
Speaker 1: That moderation is good. If you keep punching bean bag, bitch,
Speaker 1: it's gonna turn to flatt It's just gonna turn to
Speaker 1: flat flat the bean bag. We're gonna start talking about
Speaker 1: the side preference. This is this is a new this
Speaker 1: is a new phenomenon. Have you heard about this? Fish
Speaker 1: like a switch? It's not a switch. So so It's
Speaker 1: not like it's not like BDSM or anything. It's like
Speaker 1: dumb sub anything. It's um uh, it's side where it's
Speaker 1: like you just are basically don't want to do pettrade
Speaker 1: of stuff, which like to me, I'm always like nine times,
Speaker 1: not nine times out a time, but like five times
Speaker 1: out of time. I'm like, I we don't have to
Speaker 1: do all that. Honestly, I think I'm into that too.
Speaker 1: I think I might be. I might be versed for
Speaker 1: the first time in my life in terms of being
Speaker 1: a bottom in a side. Yeah. My thing back when
Speaker 1: I first first in my early ties, I would side
Speaker 1: my way all around the city. Wait what what I said?
Speaker 1: In my early twenties, I would side my way all
Speaker 1: around the city. But y'all, we're doing a bit with
Speaker 1: sounds and stuff. Some things are more important. No wait,
Speaker 1: speaking of sounds. Okay, wait quickly, Okay, this is the
Speaker 1: sometimes trio YouTube Andrews, Andrew and Joel are like, we
Speaker 1: didn't know they were going to do choreo. That's not
Speaker 1: really true, Joe, Joel maybe didn't know Andrew Andrew, but
Speaker 1: I think you guys marked it and like that early
Speaker 1: like past and then I think you guys showed up
Speaker 1: to set with and then maybe added on as you went.
Speaker 1: Is that Joel didn't know it was about to be
Speaker 1: as elaborate as it was. Yeah, we were giving choreography down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we had our harmonies together. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: giving full production. It really was. That was really fun.
Speaker 1: Pavilion Beach, that fake pavilion. Everyone is gagged that that
Speaker 1: was a set that in the Ice Palace. And when
Speaker 1: you watched the movie for real, like when it goes
Speaker 1: from the Ice Palace inside to the Ice Palace outside,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that's not basically shot that on
Speaker 1: Fire Island? Is it crazy that that was the last
Speaker 1: day that we wrapped on the the out the exterior
Speaker 1: stuff at the Ice Palace. Oh my god, like god,
Speaker 1: like the order is so strange to me, and yet
Speaker 1: I don't pick up on it at all. That's direction, bitch,
Speaker 1: that's andrew period. You can't tell it. What was something
Speaker 1: Andrew On said to you and directed you in a
Speaker 1: way that you feel you will never forget. It was
Speaker 1: the scene where Joel comes back to the house where
Speaker 1: the after party is. It's right after I pick you
Speaker 1: up off the floor and we go again and then
Speaker 1: and then you we've lost Luke. We've lost Luke. And
Speaker 1: I remember him coming up to me and being like,
Speaker 1: just imagine that, like you've lost your sister, like you've
Speaker 1: lost your best friend at the party, and I was like,
Speaker 1: work it was. I think it was like, Andrew does
Speaker 1: this really beautiful thing of like like easily putting you
Speaker 1: into the pocket, and it was exactly what I needed
Speaker 1: to be, like this is now coming from a height
Speaker 1: end Molly role and now like I'm really seriously looking
Speaker 1: for my sister because the bitch might be falling out.
Speaker 1: I think that was like the time where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you. It really works because in that scene, there's
Speaker 1: an inflection in your voice where you're like, but we
Speaker 1: have to get him home, Like why is this even
Speaker 1: a conversation? Like of course, like yeah, like Luke is
Speaker 1: a messy flop and like it might not surprise you,
Speaker 1: but like I'm concerned. You know, you have to care
Speaker 1: for this person because you're my sister. And fish fish,
Speaker 1: grab my hand, my head, this fish bound to swim. HeiG, girl,
Speaker 1: what's what? What? What's the note that Andrew gave you?
Speaker 1: Andrew there was you know what I really appreciated about
Speaker 1: Andrew with Me is that he always let me have fun.
Speaker 1: Like Andrew with with Me, I like, he always let
Speaker 1: me get my improvs in like he I think appreciated
Speaker 1: the fact that I was like, you know, looking at
Speaker 1: the script and like, you know, trying to I think
Speaker 1: he likes my sense of humor, even though he doesn't
Speaker 1: always Fee's super comfortable going back at it with me
Speaker 1: in terms of bits. I think I can overpower him
Speaker 1: sometimes in a way that's like I feel it is funny,
Speaker 1: and he always I think he got a sense from
Speaker 1: me anyway that I operate best from a place of
Speaker 1: joy and not stressed, and like he was always really
Speaker 1: really complimentary and sweet and actually in the first few weeks,
Speaker 1: I think I was telling you, I was like, he's
Speaker 1: not giving me a lot of notes in the beginning.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know why I'm not getting
Speaker 1: more notes. But I think that he was just letting
Speaker 1: me play in a way where with Luke, it's like
Speaker 1: it was fun to color him in because you know,
Speaker 1: because in the script we are just kind of kind
Speaker 1: of like together the whole time. That can sort of
Speaker 1: blend in that I feel like that when we got
Speaker 1: did get together and started to find our own characters.
Speaker 1: Like he was really cool about letting us fill all
Speaker 1: that in with our personalities because it's giving. I think
Speaker 1: the reason that Luke and Keegan are such good friends
Speaker 1: is because you just meet someone that energetically is on
Speaker 1: the same level. They're ready to give chaos or relax in,
Speaker 1: relaxation or ever at the same time. It feels like
Speaker 1: they energetically are always like on the same level, whereas
Speaker 1: like they are different people. So I just think, like
Speaker 1: the space he gave me, and then during my tough scenes,
Speaker 1: like he was very soft spoken and never never like
Speaker 1: he know, he did let me get extra takes. I
Speaker 1: told him, I was like, can we please just not
Speaker 1: move on until I know that, until I know that?
Speaker 1: That was my last take, Like, don't be like we
Speaker 1: gotta move on, Like I kind of can't stand that.
Speaker 1: What about for you because you had the heavy lifting.
Speaker 1: Well for me, it was the on the ferry um
Speaker 1: when I'm like emotional, uh, when I leave the island,
Speaker 1: like I kept he like sent me songs like in
Speaker 1: the week leading up to he was like he was,
Speaker 1: but he's so good at like sending you something. I
Speaker 1: don't know over some songs that he sent you. He
Speaker 1: sent me, Um, oh god, that that that that artist
Speaker 1: that he mentioned last week. Um Frampton, Frampton, Frampton, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. It was such a good song. And then
Speaker 1: but then what he said to me, are you ready
Speaker 1: for this? He said to me, I like, I did
Speaker 1: a couple takes where I was just kind of like
Speaker 1: moping and I was like truly sobbing, and like, I
Speaker 1: think he wanted me to dial it back a little bit.
Speaker 1: And so he's like, he was like, I want you
Speaker 1: to look behind you, look back at the island and
Speaker 1: more in the person that like went there, and now
Speaker 1: you're a completely different person. And the person who went before,
Speaker 1: like the person who went to the island the other
Speaker 1: way like earlier in the week is gone. Is that
Speaker 1: I hope that that person happened Maybe this time was
Speaker 1: going to be different. Yes, Like that that person is out,
Speaker 1: is gone from you. You cannot identify with that person anymore.
Speaker 1: You don't know who you are after this. And I
Speaker 1: was like okay, and that truly I'll do it. I know,
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, damn it. Andrews so fucking
Speaker 1: good at that, And there was only like two takes
Speaker 1: and I think because I think he knew like that,
Speaker 1: you don't. You can only do so many if you're
Speaker 1: like the persons crying if you cry, r y and
Speaker 1: e if you cry. You know what's funny though, Like
Speaker 1: what something I've been realizing about, like that that type
Speaker 1: of stuff is like because I did way bigger emotional
Speaker 1: takes on that ship too, and like sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: it's like too much when an actor too emotional. And
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lewis on set of I love that for you
Speaker 1: because she gave me advice one time we were about
Speaker 1: to block a scene where and she was like, now me,
Speaker 1: as Jennifer, I feel like I'm getting I'm going to
Speaker 1: get emotional during this, but I want you to know
Speaker 1: if if I start crying, we have to start over
Speaker 1: because my character would not cry. And she said, she said,
Speaker 1: in scenes like this, you don't cry, they cry. She
Speaker 1: was like, she was like, it's more powerful and more
Speaker 1: affecting for the audience to know you are struggling with
Speaker 1: containing an emotion than showing an emotion. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, not only is that is that really smart?
Speaker 1: But also it's easier for your energy, you know, what
Speaker 1: I mean, because you could be giving so much and
Speaker 1: then like you find out that you know, something was
Speaker 1: funked up with the camera, you gotta keep going. It's
Speaker 1: like so much more. You have to manage so much
Speaker 1: more than you think that's smart theater. Well, speaking of
Speaker 1: like when we saw you in Hades Town, like that
Speaker 1: looked incredibly physically demanded, like and doing swing like, so
Speaker 1: do you come from being a swing like what is
Speaker 1: that vibe? No? That was the first time I've ever swung,
Speaker 1: the first time ever um And honestly, the fact that
Speaker 1: it was we're still in Covida Lands, bitch, it was crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I had to. I wasn't supposed to be a
Speaker 1: cover for a fate that literally got like handed to
Speaker 1: me the day before, which is giving pussy cunt. I mean,
Speaker 1: I gave pussy cunt down and it was just it
Speaker 1: was a whirlwind and I'm really happy I did it
Speaker 1: because I know that I can do it and I
Speaker 1: will never do it again. Yeah, because you don't have
Speaker 1: to prove it to anyone or yourself for exactly whatever.
Speaker 1: And the rate is a little bit higher now. The glop,
Speaker 1: the gloup that everyone in the cast is gonna go.
Speaker 1: I mean already several people have already booked trip. Yeah
Speaker 1: not me, girl out of here. I'm not gonna book
Speaker 1: it ever, We're going to make sure of it. Wait,
Speaker 1: we need to talk about Wendy on. Thomas and I
Speaker 1: kind of we talked about this yesterday, didn't we on
Speaker 1: She's an icon? I did not know that was going
Speaker 1: to be the ringtone. And at the top of the movie, wait,
Speaker 1: that's you but me, but people think it's you, Matt.
Speaker 1: People think it's me saying she's an icon because they
Speaker 1: couldn't because they're like, we might not be able to
Speaker 1: use actual Wendy's voice. Wait, so that's your voice? What
Speaker 1: I think that was Wendy down? Yeah, back and listen,
Speaker 1: that's that's some bone acts and you know what, And
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense with the story, like I
Speaker 1: would get like Howie to record, like to record like
Speaker 1: his ringtown. But there was a second Bowen where it's
Speaker 1: funny that you say people think it's me, because when
Speaker 1: I first heard you thought it No, I thought, did
Speaker 1: I do that? Because it sounded like my voice a
Speaker 1: little bit? And I don't think I gave them that
Speaker 1: a d R because it also comes out of the
Speaker 1: fanfare that the three of us did for the Searchlight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where I was like, did we continue to talk and
Speaker 1: they're using it like you doing the legend? Why that
Speaker 1: makes it to you because we often speak in that inflection, right,
Speaker 1: and so it makes sense. But I thought it was
Speaker 1: I thought that that was Wendy. Yeah. Yeah, But Tomas
Speaker 1: and I were talking about yesterday in the Island. We're like,
Speaker 1: we hope she's okay. Honestly, we always I've always looked
Speaker 1: out like one of the best for her. I'm also
Speaker 1: like just so sad that she's not on the air anymore.
Speaker 1: It's like, what kind of I need? I need the content, Wendy,
Speaker 1: I need your SoundBite. Girl. I don't think it's the end.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It might be giving ends. What makes
Speaker 1: you say it doesn't seem like she's doing well. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that she's in a conservatorship right now and
Speaker 1: all of her money is like frozen, right, And I
Speaker 1: do think she's like, you know, it's giving not the
Speaker 1: best right right? Oh gosh, I know if you're listening, well,
Speaker 1: she's our nominations leader at the last Culture Racist Culture Awards. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: she's an icon She's a legend and she is the
Speaker 1: moment now is the moment, has been, the moment, will
Speaker 1: be the moment, period, period, period. That's what she said, Dot,
Speaker 1: what was that? What was that? Okay, James, So I
Speaker 1: did that the other day at the premiere and I
Speaker 1: went what was that? And Peppermint was there and she
Speaker 1: goes what. I was like, Oh, I'm doing a bit.
Speaker 1: She goes, what's the bit? I was like, it goes
Speaker 1: what was that? And then she was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what you about. I was like, oh, pep Peppermint. Wait.
Speaker 1: Peppermint has some of the funniest lines in the film too. Yes,
Speaker 1: that and then so we brought sandwiches to the room,
Speaker 1: to the room. I love, I love, I love little
Speaker 1: snaps of dialogue from somewhere else that don't make sense
Speaker 1: are so funny on their own good But I think
Speaker 1: that tells a story. We brought sandwiches to the room,
Speaker 1: like abought sandwiches to the room, and it leaves it
Speaker 1: open for interpretation. Are are giving art art? One of
Speaker 1: the best laugh USA get me going thoughfied me on
Speaker 1: down down, Joy personified, Joy personified. Damn is that my
Speaker 1: drag name? Joy? Personified actually is an incredible dragon joy
Speaker 1: psif from the House of From the House from the
Speaker 1: House of? Are you do you want drag Race? Are
Speaker 1: you not about that? So? So, what are your feelings
Speaker 1: on this winter season? Well, I'm obsessed. I think it's
Speaker 1: like the smartest idea and I think, okay, my top
Speaker 1: no shade, Raja, I'm oh, well, I think she's getting
Speaker 1: piste off of it was so funny, bitch that last episode,
Speaker 1: want to leave because I'll stay up here? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think she was. She was reading them a little bit
Speaker 1: because she's like, wait, so for the third week in
Speaker 1: a row, you're actually going to send me to the
Speaker 1: side because you just praised me down. I think they
Speaker 1: kept that in for a reason. They could have cut
Speaker 1: that out, but they kept because I think that might
Speaker 1: develop into an actual storyline on the show, giving giving editing,
Speaker 1: so for the editors. So Raja is feeling like you're
Speaker 1: number one? I think yes, And I think the way
Speaker 1: that Monet is playing the game is really good. I
Speaker 1: think the way that she is playing the game is okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Jinx is like the top contender,
Speaker 1: But if I were on that motherfucking episode, I would
Speaker 1: be blocking Jinks that, which is obviously gold every time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every time. I mean she I think she's winning people's
Speaker 1: hearts the most. I was funny. I mean also, this
Speaker 1: improv challenge was it was I mean it was whenever
Speaker 1: a drag rate whenever drag Race does an improv challenge,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay here, but it was funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jinx was giving character when that ear fell. Like, wait,
Speaker 1: I have a question. Do you think that the editing
Speaker 1: of the show, because it's an all winner season, is
Speaker 1: like particularly making it so that there's no negative critique. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's why. I don't think they're going to negative negative
Speaker 1: critique anybody like hard. I mean he might, but I
Speaker 1: think it's like a way to be like if you say,
Speaker 1: like Evie, that look was not van of White at all.
Speaker 1: That sucks, then it's gonna make it seem like season
Speaker 1: eleven was a bad season, which which is which is back.
Speaker 1: It's gonna like really like cast this weird shadow in
Speaker 1: certain seasons that was a bad season because this winner
Speaker 1: is not good. I also would imagine that you're only
Speaker 1: getting them to even sign up if like a few
Speaker 1: things are being met, which is pay me money as
Speaker 1: as like a full on appearance thing. Don't eliminate me
Speaker 1: because that was that's humiliating. And also make sure that
Speaker 1: I look good like I'm a winner of the show,
Speaker 1: like that has to come with some degree of respect
Speaker 1: and like some dignity there, Like don't you can't be
Speaker 1: showing me the door after fifteen minutes of airtime, especially
Speaker 1: when you were a winner. And we now know how
Speaker 1: much money they all spend and how in the red
Speaker 1: they go to prepare for a season. You know, It's
Speaker 1: what's crazy is knowing someone like Coco Montrese like paid
Speaker 1: all Star money for her looks and only got one episode. Now,
Speaker 1: you know that is disrespectful to the girls that like
Speaker 1: our building your legacy. I honestly think this is how
Speaker 1: they should do all Star seasons going forward, even if
Speaker 1: we're not winners. Yes, keep them. Yeah, it's a good foreman,
Speaker 1: it's a great format. I feel that we are also
Speaker 1: coming upon the time. If I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: I think this is the time. So this is the
Speaker 1: segment of our podcast, Thomas where we get extra ficy
Speaker 1: and fresh because we for one minute rant against something
Speaker 1: on pop culture that we absolutely have zero time for
Speaker 1: absolutely done with and needs to be raped over the
Speaker 1: damn proverbial cola. Okay, okay, yeah, Matt, you got something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. The Nicole Kim
Speaker 1: in part of The Hours, because this does not a
Speaker 1: performance mix, and she delivered in that last scene at
Speaker 1: the trade station. If it's between Richmond and death, I
Speaker 1: choose death definitely. That was a monologue the house down.
Speaker 1: But was this an oscar? And I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I also don't think she's the lead actress of this movie. Yes,
Speaker 1: it sends me spending my energy in the Year of
Speaker 1: Our Lord to talk about something that happens twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: but that's what happened when I did Kennemy and last
Speaker 1: Night and watched The Hours with friends, is that it's
Speaker 1: top of mine today. So basically, I don't think, so, honey,
Speaker 1: that we're gonna sit there and have Meryl Streep having
Speaker 1: an expert panic attack on her plot line and then say, Hm,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in Nicole. I don't think, so, honey. I'm
Speaker 1: interested in Meryl at all times, always watching Ed Harris
Speaker 1: jump out a damn window. So spoiler alert, Well, guess
Speaker 1: what that was an incredible when Meryl screamed she watched
Speaker 1: hast that was how you act, Mama. And I feel
Speaker 1: like Nicole Kimman was giving no, she was giving hat,
Speaker 1: she was giving um British, but it was not giving Oscar. Also,
Speaker 1: I think she's in the movie for at fifteen to
Speaker 1: sixteen minutes. She definitely kissed her biological sister hard on
Speaker 1: the mouth, Oscar Win. I don't think so, honey, And
Speaker 1: that's one minute. Wow. Iconic shout out to Ryan O'Connell,
Speaker 1: who doesn't like talking about Nicole Kimman or the Oscar Wins.
Speaker 1: I responded to that, I don't think to that guest
Speaker 1: for last week or a couple weeks ago. But yeah,
Speaker 1: when you were watching this movie last night, did you
Speaker 1: think that it gave. I think that it gave. I
Speaker 1: think Meryl is giving you the most. Like Meryl does
Speaker 1: so much per scene, Like she goes through like a
Speaker 1: panic attack and then with Jeff Daniels and then she
Speaker 1: has to like bring it back or then her daughter
Speaker 1: comes in and she has to like confess all these
Speaker 1: truths to her. Like Meryl is doing the most juggling.
Speaker 1: Nicole gets to just sit there and like stare into
Speaker 1: the distance. It's a lot of stare It's the last two.
Speaker 1: And then Julianne has to like also stare up, but
Speaker 1: then has to like screaming her child. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: feel like it was it was giving. They wanted to
Speaker 1: give him a call the oscar. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: that happened sometimes. Anyway, I'm really happy that top of
Speaker 1: mind for me now years later when it really matters. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, I saw Top Gun Maverick, just just
Speaker 1: to talk about the top culture for a second. This
Speaker 1: movie was fine. The thing I like about Top Gun
Speaker 1: was that it was so gay. All those men were
Speaker 1: oiled up playing Top Gun, like Tom Cruise and like
Speaker 1: old o Ge, like oiled up on playing beach volleyball,
Speaker 1: and it's so gay. And they're like walking around the
Speaker 1: locker room being all oiled up and like being mad
Speaker 1: at each other because they want to be the best
Speaker 1: pilot this movie. There wasn't even any gay ship. It
Speaker 1: was like they cast all these hot guys like j Ellis,
Speaker 1: like Glenn Powell, like um Miles Teller, and I can't
Speaker 1: even see them, like I can't even see, like a towel.
Speaker 1: Come a little bit over the like bone right here
Speaker 1: the van. I can't even see any man like you're
Speaker 1: giving me what Tom Cruise at his big age talking
Speaker 1: to Jennifer Connolly like, actually, she pops off the sailboat
Speaker 1: and her her hair looks perfect after she got off
Speaker 1: a sailboat. Let me tell you something about getting off
Speaker 1: a sailboat. Your hair doesn't look perfect. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: But the best part about Top Gun Maverick was the
Speaker 1: song hold My Hand by Lady Gaga, which calls a
Speaker 1: C plus song. I didn't say that so funny to
Speaker 1: see you lie these little lies that we tell drag
Speaker 1: drag her. I'm a little monster down. I would not
Speaker 1: think she's gonna play hold my Hand on comic Are
Speaker 1: you going to caromatic fish? I want to want invited
Speaker 1: to please? Is there am? Yes, my promise you will
Speaker 1: be my fish? Heard him? The fish is blue blue,
Speaker 1: blue blue blue. Alright, girl, So now it's going to
Speaker 1: be that moment in the in the podcast episode Bowen Yang,
Speaker 1: we're using your I don't think so, honey. Are you
Speaker 1: ready bitch um? Yeah? Yeah, this doesn't bode well. No,
Speaker 1: I think I'm ready. I'm ready, alright, this is Bowen Yanks.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. On Fire Island, when you
Speaker 1: don't shut the damn door behind you when you go
Speaker 1: into a space, are you trying to let all the
Speaker 1: damn bugs in this? You're you're this is this is
Speaker 1: basically a greenhouse, and you're gonna have a little butterfly
Speaker 1: pavilion underneath my living room. The wrong kind of pavilions
Speaker 1: are like, not the pavilion where you go for show
Speaker 1: you in Sundays, or you do the glam racks. What
Speaker 1: was that that? I think it's called the glam racks.
Speaker 1: Glam racks getting something. I'm getting the I'm butchering the Navy.
Speaker 1: You guys do not know what I'm talking about. Glam racks.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I think that there's
Speaker 1: a door. Etiquette is not okay on Fire Island. Lacking
Speaker 1: when you're when you're fucking, you better shut the door.
Speaker 1: When you're shitting, shut the door. When you're visiting someone's
Speaker 1: house and you're barging in on them watching the hour,
Speaker 1: you better there's people who came yesterday did not and
Speaker 1: about a hundred army of mosquitoes cament and that's one minute. Listen, Um,
Speaker 1: It's true. Just because it's a relaxed atmosphere does not
Speaker 1: mean you leave the doors. William only open shut the door,
Speaker 1: Shut the damn door. I mean, that was an incredible
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, at so happy that you
Speaker 1: took it to task. You really did that one before
Speaker 1: we before we go, we have to just say to everyone.
Speaker 1: Our favorite tweet that's been tweeted was a picture of Conrad,
Speaker 1: Rick and Mora in the film and just shirt listen
Speaker 1: to film and just this caption how to get away
Speaker 1: with my whole, Get out, Get out with my whole. Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: so listen, miss fish. Do you haven't I don't think so, honey, topic,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think you're gonna absolutely be. I
Speaker 1: think you're going to be one of the best of
Speaker 1: all time. Well, let's see, this is Tomas matos Is.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Peppy you think you are? Why
Speaker 1: does say nobody say I don't think so honey? Exclamation
Speaker 1: point I don't think so honey. I'm gonna start saying, wait,
Speaker 1: question mark, I've done with peppy, bitch. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. Wherever I don't think, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think honey, bitch, And that is on period.
Speaker 1: You know what I think? Who decided to make period period?
Speaker 1: Why does anybody say I'm start saying I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, so my colon, I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: apostrophe bitch? And why is there a tea at the
Speaker 1: end of period period? It's not even a d I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. You know what else, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't bitch, and that is on period. And I
Speaker 1: can say that because I'm cutting bitch. I don't take
Speaker 1: so honey. Honestly, that was that was twisting and turning it,
Speaker 1: tussling with it, turning it into something new, brand new,
Speaker 1: licked it, snorted, fucked it, brought it in, vomited. That
Speaker 1: was our pop. Really was that? And this is period period?
Speaker 1: This is pop. I thought you were saying, I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey, period, like you don't think so honey, period,
Speaker 1: But but but you were but they were saying, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, I don't think so, honey. Period
Speaker 1: also the punctuation period, the period I dragged everything, universal
Speaker 1: ass wrap it up to must get me out of
Speaker 1: this box. It's giving the hottest box in the world.
Speaker 1: And so this has been an episode which is a
Speaker 1: glimpse into the fishdom that is the friendship between the
Speaker 1: three of us, and we're so thrilled and it's a
Speaker 1: friendship that will stand the test of time. Can we
Speaker 1: commit to this? Let's commit that. Because I missed y'all
Speaker 1: too much between rap and the premier, and I got
Speaker 1: a little sad earlier last week. I was like, this
Speaker 1: cannot be the last time we all see each other.
Speaker 1: There's too much joy. Absolutely not. I mean, it's for
Speaker 1: the entire cast and I I've been asked about a
Speaker 1: sequel numerous times already, which I'm so down. Fire Island down,
Speaker 1: cunt Okay. Put the press released out. Now, Fire Island
Speaker 1: to kunt Okay. It's coming. Someone said fire Island to
Speaker 1: Palm Springs. I thought it was funny that is called
Speaker 1: fire Island to Palm Springs. Fire Island too, Provincetown, Fire Island,
Speaker 1: two miconos, Fire Island too. I think we gotta micans
Speaker 1: think about Oh my god, that can be funny. This
Speaker 1: has been one of the fishiest episodes yet we brought you.
Speaker 1: Thank you Queena for joining us. Absolutely we had every
Speaker 1: episode and you can stream the film. Fire Island were
Speaker 1: episode with the song I'm so tired. I cannot say words.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many times I've gone over my words?
Speaker 1: It is in a situation I don't want to believe,
Speaker 1: just say because it's that's Oh God, let it bear
Speaker 1: anyone wait? Can we just do the part that we know?
Speaker 1: Sometimes I run, sometimes, sometimes I had Sometimes I was
Speaker 1: scared at you, but all I really wanted to hold
Speaker 1: your side, treat you right, be with you day baby.
Speaker 1: I need this. I found it. Found it by my
Speaker 1: boy