WEBVTT - Draft Show: X-Factors Before Indy 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.840 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:12.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:18.040 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.160 incenter news and trafted analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:28.880 of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. And now 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:35.239 your hosts Brian brought us Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:42.040 David Hellman. It's a Friday edition of the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.040 dot Com Draft Show, presented by Miller Ltte. As we 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.200 are back from the s WBC studios at the Star 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.600 in Frisco. We have braved the frozen tundra of the 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.400 Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex and made it to the Star 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.920 in Frisco at day late, Brian, but they be too 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:59.880 late to talk about the draft. No, it's always good 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.840 to talk about the draft. And you know, with with 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.840 the combine on the horizon, you speak of frigid and 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.280 cold and all those things. I know Jeff Kavanaugh can 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.280 tell us a few stories about combine cold. Yeah. I 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.600 don't want a little different, No, I don't want to 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.840 talk about it though. A little cold, right, A little different, Yeah, 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.319 it's different. Yeah, it's I live twenties, so if it's 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.600 cold outside, I'll wear a long sleeve T shirt and 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.120 a hoodie. Yeah that's what I own. That's about it. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.000 So that's what I took to Indie because I was like, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.559 oh it's cold, I'll let me grab my cold things, 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.720 my long sleeve T shirts and my hoodies. Negative eight 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.559 windchill does not care about your hoodie or your T shirt. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.120 Yeah at all, blows right through that rudder room jacket 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.200 that you've got on helme and tried to quit. He did, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.760 tried to quit life day walking down the street in 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.680 India after drinking and he sat down on the sidewalking rid. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.839 What are you doing? He said, I'm done. I can't 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.760 do it. He just wanted to stay. Is like sleep 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.360 in the face, No, no, no. It was freezing, bitter, bitter, 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.480 bitter cold. And if you know, everybody who's gone to 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.280 the Combine knows how to get around without going outside 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.320 where our hotel hell was. We had to walk up 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.520 past the Capitola done and Dave sat down on the 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.800 curb and started crying, laugh laughing and crying at the 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.560 same time. And I like, I grabbed as he had 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.440 his backpack and I grabbed his like strap and I'm like, 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.200 come on, man, we gotta go. He's like, no, I 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.840 can't go further. I can't just go. Just leave me. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.760 They'll pick me up in the morning. I'm like, no, Dave, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.640 you gotta go. You gotta get going. But uh, yeah, 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.600 the the Slippery Noodle and all those places they missed 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.760 us up there in Indie. I think this gracious. I've 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.120 I've heard a lot of draft stories from you guys 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.840 over the years, including the one where Jeff was freezing 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.240 the first time around, and I learned from that. I've 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.679 just a ton of clothes to andy. The first time, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.160 we stayed at a hotel that was literally across the 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.480 street from Lucas Oil Stadium, and Jeff took an uber 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.000 from across the street around to the entrance to where 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:54.160 he had to go. Yeah, it was on the other 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.679 side of State. It was on the other strip. It 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.680 was really confused. But I got into the uber and 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:58.920 he's like where too, And I was like to the 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.960 stadium and he was like there and I was like 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.520 other side and I was like, yeah, I only have 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.040 a hoodie. Take me to the other side. Please. I 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.480 think we're in the same area this time, Dave and 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.480 I move it or we'll we'll be flying out on Sunday, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.840 getting there Monday for Dave and I think it's the 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.480 same thing. I think we're on one side of Lucas 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.880 Oil and then the convention centers across from Lucas Oil. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.240 I've coached Dave up well where to stay at Indy 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.600 and he knows. I appreciate the fact that he's carried 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.399 the baton about getting stuff organized and no one were 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:35.920 to stay. And yeah, it's a it's a pretty simplistic walk, though, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.680 I'll tell you what those there's times where if you've 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.240 had a few a few drinks after a long day 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.760 and you're walking home, that that cold will sober you 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.000 up a little bit. You walk, yeah, get you going 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:47.880 the right. Oh yeah. It should be a lot of fun. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.040 And we'll of course have coverage throughout next week from 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.480 the Combine and Dave and Jeff will be holding it 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.920 down here from back at the Star in Frisco. But 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.200 Dave not here today, so I've slid back over into 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.280 the host chair for the temporary time being. But I 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.720 like the way that he's been starting these draft shows 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.600 and by naming the last player that you've watched or 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.040 somebody that stuck out to you since the last showed 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.920 that we had, So, Brian, who was the last guy 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.680 that you took some time? Yeah, last night, around twelve 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.920 twenty eight, I took a look at a young man 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.880 named John Ridgeway from Arkansas, the defensive tackle. I think 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.279 he's a fourth round player. Myself hater, but this guy 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.760 is when you watch him, he's a true two gap 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.280 knows he plays head up and he's a really powerful guy. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.920 Though six five three twenty is what the measurables I've 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.320 got right now on him. But he will line up. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.040 I mean he will breathe the same air as the center. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.320 I mean he's that close to the center's face and 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.400 all that. So I do like his power. I do 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.320 like the way he's able to hold guys along the 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.640 line of scrimmage. I think that the thing about him 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.560 is he's good playing the run. I just don't think 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.839 you're gonna get very much from him as a pass rusher. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.080 I think you're gonna get a guy that's gonna push 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.080 real hard and try and drive guys back and and 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.960 hopefully take up blocks for everybody else. That's kind of 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.080 what the vibe I got watching him play. I took 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.000 a peek at that Mississippi and Mississippi State game of him. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.760 But this guy could have a long career. I think 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.320 playing is at one technique or a nose guy in 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.359 this league just getting taking up blocks, uh, you know, 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.240 getting off him. If you run at him, he's going 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.640 to kind of disengage his guy and and make the tackle. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.599 He's a really a physical player too, as a physical tackler. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.400 Like I say, there were a couple of times Mississippi 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.400 State try to run on side of him and like 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.200 he slammed the ball carrier down on the ground. So yeah, 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.480 I kind of feel like, though, there's your there's your 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.280 one technique or nose depending on what scheme you play. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.720 But a pretty good player with the power he has. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.560 I kind of like the story that he has too. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.440 He was a transfer from Illinois State, Illinois State two 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.640 star recruit out of high school. He was recruited as 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.480 an offensive tackle. Yeah, so he's still very raw at 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.239 the position. Did you see any of that in the film? 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.240 Is there something fundamentally? No? I mean to me, when 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.839 you know, when you when you have guys that play 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.600 with power and or to just you know, they just 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.920 mal people. That's you know, that's kind of like either 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.760 you're an offensive lineman your defensive tackle. I didn't see 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.080 anything that led me to believe that there was any 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.680 any steep learning curve or anything like that. If you're 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.400 going to play football and be mean, push that guy, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.400 get to that John John Ridgeways your guy. If I 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.600 can say, if you want that one technique or that 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.280 knows that just is just gonna he's gonna eat up 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.040 blocks the way he plays. But again, he's not going 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.760 to give you anything inside. But we've had a couple 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.679 of these guys in this draft that are big body 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.000 guys that are really tight, kind of two down players, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.359 and he kind of fits in that mode. Have you 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.200 seen him yet, Jeff, I've not. Nope. Last night I 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:43.800 decided to power through the linebackers, all the linebackers because 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.080 I knew we were going to talk about them some today. Nice. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.520 So I've watched all of the linebackers. So there's fifty 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.479 three on my list. You've watched fifty, watched sixty. I 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:56.960 went a little deeper than some USFL guys get the draft. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:02.240 I've seen twelve linebackers good. Last one was Channing Tindall Georgia. Yeah, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.200 he's not a full time starter because Georgia has too 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.160 many good linebackers. So like normally it's they start off 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.760 with Nikobe Dean and Quay Walker, and then they have 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.440 another single digit linebacker who's their past rush guy over here, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:21.960 and then Channing Tindall and the kid it's dealing with 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.480 the off the field stuff. Oh well, even without him, 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.160 there's another one. Okay's over there that looks pretty busy 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:33.560 edge or is he actually a linebacker? What's with all 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.160 the questions? I'm sorry, that's my default. Anytime I don't 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.560 know something's call the questions. Channing Tindall's fun though. He 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.320 is a heat seeker. He's like six two two thirty 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.400 and he is Georgia. He is ball snapped me, run 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.880 me break things, and he runs really really fast. Jeff, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.120 did you see some stiffness in his game at all? 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.320 That the attorney part. I mean we were talking about 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.800 the missile downhill player. Totally agree with you on that. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.320 I just didn't know if there was when you watched 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.080 him cover or there was a little bit of how 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.280 well can he really turn? Yeah? I think he is, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.320 Like I have him as a third round ish yeah, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.800 three four cheater grade, because I think that he's probably 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.840 a two down player. And even as a two down player, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.960 there's probably some growth you have to have in terms 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.840 of awareness process trigger. But as far as hey, the 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.360 running back is going to run a sweep, yeah, there 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.400 is zero chance that running back is going to beat 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.800 Channing Tendal to the sideline. You are going to see 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.880 him and you were going to feel him. You know what, Kyle, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:33.120 It's funny Jeff talked about trigger. When you watch Georgia play, 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.559 if you don't react quick enough, it's very noticeable. Yeah, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:41.360 because Nikobe Deean will run. Yeah, everybody else, all those 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.600 guys will run. I mean, like you said, if you 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.839 if And I think the thing with Tendall was there 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.360 was a couple of one or two plays I noticed 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.800 where he was a little slow reacting to the development 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.000 of the play. But so I said, that's something you 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.199 got to keep an eye on again, the stiffness and 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.400 then the instincts to quickly get out of But once, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.000 I mean you're right, once this guy got going, it 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.320 was I mean, it was a blur. All those Georgia 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.720 kids play like their blurs. It kind of reminds me 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.080 of that LSU team a couple of years ago, and 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.160 a team that where you looked up and down the 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.680 depth chart and you're saying, okay, that's a first round 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.720 or first round or second, second, third, third, and then ultimately, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.800 of course they had what what was it fourteen guys 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.600 drafted that did that year some of these some were 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.920 reserves in that back end. Of course, both teams national champions, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.480 So that's going to happen when you have a team 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.920 as stacked as that. Georgie's got some really good players. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.720 Fun to stay. Nolan Smith is the stand up edge 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:36.120 linebacker number three. Not draft eligible, right, I've seen, Well 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:37.920 he's eligible. I don't know if he's declared, but he 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.040 is set number four. You're right, yeah, Yeah. They get 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.320 a lot of linebackers at Georgia and they play all 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.400 over the place. And when we go through him, which 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.120 I think it's part of the show to third segment, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.480 other ones to talk about, yep, like me some Kuay Walker. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.839 He's a fun prospect. I watched Walker Tuesday after the show. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.599 Did you like the fact that that big body is 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.520 wearing that number seven? It looked good on him. Yes 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:04.880 it did, yeah, yes, and lean yeah. So we haven't 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.080 had a chance to really talk about the way that 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.280 the first round really plays out in front of the Cowboys. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.040 Of course, picking at number twenty four, and there's a 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.000 lot of things that can happen between now and Draft 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.760 Day in late April, but with the combine coming up, 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.200 I kind of wanted to get a pre combine feel 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.400 of what you think will happen in front of the Cowboys. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.320 We talked a little bit about the NFC East, the Giants, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.040 the Eagles, the of course the Commanders almost said football 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.959 team because that's what I have written down as, but 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.000 they are the Washington Commanders. Now, what do you feel 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.240 like this is going to happen? Are there any big 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.800 surprises in store? Are there going to be any teams 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.280 outside of twenty four trading up in front of the 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.200 Cowboys to maybe go get a quarterback, a wide receiver, 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.720 offensive tackle, etc. That could affect the Cowboys? And what 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.600 would happen at twenty four. I think this is going 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.520 to be one of the hardest drafts to predict that 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.960 we've had in a long time. Like I can name 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.760 you six or seven guys that are probably gonna go 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.920 in the top ten to twelve. But when you're talking 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:10.000 about drafting at twenty four, I think in a normal draft, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.160 I don't want to get too cocky here, but I 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.200 bet we could nail like eighteen nineteen of the names. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.000 Sure they're gonna go before you. Yeah, And in this one, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.320 I feel like it's more like you could name ten 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.080 to twelve of the names, and then you don't know, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.400 like I know three offensive tackles, I know a safety, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.760 I know two corners, I know two edge guys, maybe 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.800 three or four. But even those, the order, like the 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.120 wide receiver order they come off the board, no idea 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.800 the edge order outside of Aiden Hutchinson and Cavon Thibadeau. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.079 No idea like does somebody take Trayvon Walker in the 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.679 top ten? Maybe? Yea? Does somebody take David Ojabo in 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:57.880 the top ten? Possibly? Maybe did our George karloftis top 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.200 ten to fifteen? Maybe would one of those guys be 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.240 staring down the barrel of you at twenty four? Maybe? Yeah, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.319 it's going to be. It's going to be a really 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:12.120 interesting one because there's not the blue chip prospects at 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.640 the top, and so then it's coming down to which 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.280 guy do I prefer because of what I'm going to 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.880 ask him to do. Yeah, And so this thing could 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.920 go so many different ways where I could see the 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.080 Cowboys getting on the clock and their best player could 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.680 be a wide receiver and offensive tackle and offensive garden, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.480 offensive center, an edge player, linebacker, a corner. It could 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.440 be almost anything, which is great for a team that 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.600 could use most positions. So I just think it's gonna 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:39.920 be a really tough one to call. I think if 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.640 you look at the division, I think the Giants make 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.240 their two picks at five and seven. I think the 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.440 Commanders make their pick at eleven, and now here comes 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.920 the wildcard of Philadelphia. With all those three picks in 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.720 front of you, and depending on if Philadelphia gets into 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.080 this quarterback trading market, if that's the case, you could 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.040 have somebody else, particularly maybe Seattle pick in there. You know, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.800 with the Russell Wilson deal, maybe you would have the 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.720 Texans in there picking in that spot as well. So 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.040 I kind of feel like that, with everything in front 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.160 of you, the only team that I would worry about 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.439 as far as moving around and maybe making some things 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.520 difficult or bringing somebody in there, that you don't want 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.960 would be the Eagles. That would be the team that 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.560 I would kind of keep it on. And a lot 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.120 of it has to do because of the three first 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.640 round picks. But again, if they get involved in this 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.360 quarterback derby that we might have once free agency starts, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.000 I kind of feel like that that's the team that 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.000 might might put a different team in front of you. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.760 Totally agree with Jeff, though. I think the opening that 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.080 you have, and the Cowboys have been a really patient 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.680 team the last couple of years. They've allowed the board 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.520 to come to them. You know, I think when it 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.720 comes time and we're all sitting here in the draft 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.160 and the picks made, we're all going to probably say, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.520 that's a pretty damn good pick. Sure, that's a pretty 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.520 damn good pick. I don't think there's anything that would 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.560 really just totally just take a sideways, you know, on 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.040 what the Cowboys might do, because again, I think just 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.200 sitting there and allowing the board to come to them 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.920 will probably be a pretty good thing for them. I 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.680 think I had that same conversation with a friend of 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.120 mine who's big into the draft as well, and really, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.280 the only thing you could really look at that would 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.920 be frustrating on draft day if the Cowboys were to 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.800 go and reach on a player and go grab a 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.120 guy who's maybe a late second or an early third 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.240 in your board. Yeah, you still feel like at some 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.040 point those guys in front of you are going to fall. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.120 Those those mid first round picks, late first round picks 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.480 that you do feel like are in that category. I mean, 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.480 we've put lists out there, We've talked about the Lendard 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.200 bombs and the brains of the world. If those guys 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.280 don't fall to you, you're still gonna get a good point. Yeah, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.400 you're still a great play. Yeah, I did it. I 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.560 found one h And these are just mock drafts, right, 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.960 but you're just look at the other day, right, Yeah. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.160 I look at pretty much all of them, just to 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.560 see different scenarios and like, oh, who does that mean made? 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.640 Who does that mean made it? And one of them 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.520 I went on first glance, I was like, oh no, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.760 it's the mock draft of doom. Yeah, like Linderbaum and Green, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.880 my offensive lineman were gone, Zion Johnson was gone, even 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.480 offensive lineman was gone. Nakobe Deane and Devin Lloyd were gone. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.560 The corners were gone, the edge guys you would want 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.560 were gone, and I was like, holy cow, there is 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.720 a Doom's day. And then I look back at it 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.520 and I was like, oh, wait, zero wide receivers were picked. Yeah. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.480 So even in a scenario where you try to wipe 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.600 yourself out, it's like, oh, you can have your first 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.600 pick of receivers in the draft. And I think Trent 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.040 McDuffie the Washington Corner was available, so it's like, oh, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.000 you did have to You had guys fall in your lap. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.680 No matter what, if you're willing to accept your gift, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.480 one will fall to you. I kind of feel like, 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.000 though that to me, if I got totally wiped out, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.280 I think there's two names that might be there. Jeff 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.440 mentioned mccot to test your love for Ed Ingram. No, 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.560 I love ed Ingram in the second round, okay, I 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.040 do he's outside you know me, I have twenty first 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.520 round grades. Yeah, so he's outside of that group. I 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.120 will say this though about let me say this at Ingram, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.120 I said in the second round, there, I guarantee you 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.040 I could have I could have McDuffie on that board, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.520 or I could have Das Hill on that board, and 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.960 I would be totally okay with that. I'd I'd be 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.120 totally okay with either one of those guys if I 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.720 got completely wiped out where the receiver here remained the same. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.800 You didn't do anything with the MARII Cooper, So it's Cooper, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.640 it's CD and it's like whoever else you want to 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.840 sign ancer name here? Yeah, so I'm okay there, But 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.960 let me see what's going on. Do you lose curse? 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.240 You know? Do you you know? Do you do you 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.440 want to do you want to upgrade at corner because 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.320 you might move on from Anthony Brown because you say, hey, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.400 that's a five million dollars savings right there. I wonder 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.320 if this team would because if you haven't watched every 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.960 show that we've done, Trent McDuffie is Washington Corner. That's 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.520 really good. Yeah, Like he's a first round player and 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.680 I'd be really happy to take him at twenty four. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.800 I wonder if this team would see that's ten. Yeah, 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.800 that's what I'm saying, Jeff, because I don't know, I 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.080 wouldn't fit the mold. Well. When we did Jeff and 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.200 and Dana and I did a show, you know, plug 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.520 and play. We do it every Wednesday night. Seven three 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.640 Central and on my YouTube YouTube channel to slash get 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.520 it out there. Well, this is my last day on 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.320 terrestrial radio. Yeah, I'm graderations to be a digital man. 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.400 So yeah, it's cutting the cord. Yeah, if you want 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.920 to hear me talking sports, it's on YouTube YouTube dot 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.159 com Slash Jeff Kevin. But the but we talked about 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.280 this the other day about that, and I was I 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.560 was visiting with some scouts and they're saying, listen, everybody's 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.080 fallen in love with McDuffie and he's a really good player, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.520 but he might measure smaller than the five eleven you're 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.760 working with right now, like five nine and seven eight. Yes, 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.720 under five ten is because he's five eleven even one 0:17:55.960 --> 0:18:00.199 eighty nine. And that's that's what people are saying. It's like, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:06.360 don't be surprised if that measurement comes under exactly. And 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.280 you know, you still watch the tape. But then you know, 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.159 we love the player. The NFL might not love the 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.000 player like we do. Sure, and then so that to me, 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.680 if you are you willing, is you know the one 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.640 thing that Washington has done is they've put a lot 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:26.000 they've put secondary guys into this, into these the NFL 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.960 and done a good job with it. They've also that 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.440 scheme is really really difficult from what I understand, to 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.240 teach and to learn. So you have to have a 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:39.120 football intelligence smart stuff like that that you know, those 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:40.600 are the kinds of things. I mean, you show me 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.399 a guy that can cover and a guy that's smart. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.119 I have if I get wiped out and that guy's available, 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.440 or dacks Hill is available, one of those things, I 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.400 turned that card in and I worry about getting ready 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.119 for the next the next pick that's super wipeout area, 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:56.960 would either of you be okay with If it was 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.640 Jordan Davis three, I would have I would be okay 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.680 with that. Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem. That's kind 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.720 of my thought process. And you look at some of 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.600 the last couple of drafts. I mean, the Steelers picked 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.359 the twenty four last year. They that's where they got 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.200 Naja Harris at the running back position. So you could 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.199 kind of say that's that's a good player, but not 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.280 a position the Cowboys would be looking for. Caesar Ruiz 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.680 was the Saints pick at twenty four two years ago exactly, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.280 So I think you're going to get some really good 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.480 players Brandon IUK went after Ruise in that draft. Patrick Queen, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.120 linebacker out of LSU, did the same thing. Jeff Gladney 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.119 out of TCU. Look in the twenties, what happens is 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.600 you stop fiddle farting. Yeah, in the teams you're fiddle farting. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.119 You're looking at hey, is that the last good edge? 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.520 Is that man corners a premier position? We do? We 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.960 need to pluck this last corner we got at twenty four. 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.480 You watch the fiddle farts happen, and then you just 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.040 take what's over? Which good player did you? Guys just 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:51.959