1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: There's Nation Radio. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson, 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: ESPN nine seventy where we bring you wall to wall 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: coverage of everything Steelers here this time of year. We 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: started eight am with Bob Labriola and shirtless Tom up 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: from him bringing you the recap of the previous day's stuff, 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: and then at ten o'clock, no, nine o'clock, I'm sorry, 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: days all run together, but at nine o'clock you get 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: Craig Wolfley and Max Starks until noon. Then it's West 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: Euler picking things up at noon till one o'clock. Then 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: he is joined by Arthur Motes from one to three, 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: and then well then you get me and myself and 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I hear from three to six and the 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Steelers just wrapping up practice session number five of this 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: training camp. But the first one in pads. Looks like 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is addressing reporters over there as we speak. 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: Usually I would have would have been over that's your 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: style usually, but with me, it's a big crowd around that. 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: A lot of stuff, you know, a lot, I'm sure 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: a lot of questions about how he liked the physicality, 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: who stood out, and all that kind of stuff. That's 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: what we're here for. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially first padded practice. I'm sure he's gonna have 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: a little a little more energy than usual, not that 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: he's ever lacking, and uh, you know, obviously the Trice thing, 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure came up, but we'll get the recap of 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: what he said. Of course. 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: The questions, and they always come from more inexperienced or 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: younger reporters, is you know, how does this guy looking? 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 2: How's that guy look? He doesn't really, I mean. 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: He's not answering that. 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: He's not divulging that kind of information. He's not going 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: to single any young guy out as having being good 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: or bad at this point. 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure that's just not the way to phrase the 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: question correct, right, right, Yeah. 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: You know, there are other ways you can get a 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: little more clarity on some situations there. But yeah, I know, 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: I can kind of guess half the time what the 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: questions are going to be in those kind of situations. 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlin's a politician when it comes to uhl 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: if he wants to send a message in certain situations, 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: like yeah, if he thought today's physicality wasn't it wasn't 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: physical enough up. Yeah, he would bring that statement. He 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: would come in there hot and you know, make sure 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: that they all knew that. And you know, sometimes you 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: send that message not only through the through the media, 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: but then you also do it in private once they 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: get everybody back in there. But I didn't, I didn't 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: see that today. 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if that's the approach. I'm sure he'd be. 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: I would assume he's happy with the tempo and the 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: physicality and things are going on here. 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm watching some of these these little one on ones 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: at the offensive linemen are going through here today, Matt. 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: They're a little more physical today. 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed that. 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: You get the pads off, But I was just watching 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Kendrick Green go against Isaac Samalo. 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 3: They don't have the ridiculous chess protector out there. 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: This is all about get off, you know, getting ready 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: for that get off. So these guys are you know, 65 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: they're putting the work in. 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: No, they are. And there was some double team stuff 67 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: going on over here with some of the lesser known 68 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: linemen putting the work in. I was getting a kick 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: out of some of the friar moose stuff. He was 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: standing eight yards away from someone whipping the ball at him, 71 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: and he's catching them one handed, and then he turns 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: his back to him and he's doing you know, like 73 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: over the shoulder type stuff. You know. So a lot 74 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: of these guys will work on one little thing. You know, 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: Deontay was real close to a coach whipping the ball 76 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: at him. He's just working on quick hands, you know. 77 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: So they'll spend this ten fifteen to twenty minutes just 78 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: kind of working on one or two things that either 79 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: aren't happy with or it's just their turn to work 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: on or whatever, you know. And so interesting stuff after practice. 81 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: So and if you're here, stick around for a while. 82 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: I mean, even if you're not an autograph seeker or 83 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: anything like that, you will catch some things in these 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: little pow wows across the field. 85 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Tomlin's saying he doesn't have any more information 86 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: on the injury suffered by Corey Trice in practice. I'm 87 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: sure they won't until maybe quick you send him out 88 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: for an MRI I and see, uh, you know, get 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: a little evaluation on that. But yeah, not a good situation, no, 90 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Corey Trice. 91 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I fear the worst and by no meaning, 92 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: by no means of my downplaying at the young man 93 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: was pretty down trotten. But in terms of the corner room, 94 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: if he were to go on i R for the year, 95 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: it wouldn't be the worst situation in the world. You know, 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: you bring him back next year. It happened very early 97 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: in camp. They have a lot of outside corners. It's 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: something I think. I was excited to watch them. Don't 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: get me wrong, but I mean, you knew injuries were 100 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: gonna happen. 101 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you build the team the way you 102 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: know you do, and yeah, build that depth. 103 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: You know. 104 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with Corey Trice. 105 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: One thing was interesting in him as we keep going 106 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: back the special teamers, I was curious how much work 107 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: he would get. I mean, as a seventh round pick, 108 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: you'd think a lot with you know, trying to be 109 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: the Pierre role on special teams things like that. And 110 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: I just haven't seen enough to know, you know, do 111 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: they like him or not there, but I guess we 112 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: probably won't. 113 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that defensive back room, I had an 114 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: opportunity to talk to Levi earlier in this camp and 115 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: we tried to play it back earlier this week, and 116 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: I messed that up, so we came out. 117 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: It came out, sounded a lot like her Big. 118 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: It sounded more like Nick Kurby than it did than 119 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: it did Levi Wallace. So let's let's go ahead and 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: get the playback here on Levi Wallace and what he 121 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: had to say earlier in training camp about that defensive 122 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: back room and just the overall turnover that they've had 123 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: in that group. 124 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: There was something here from Steelers Lash Radio. 125 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: When you get through, you get into this camp, you've 126 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: been here one year already, is a little more familiar, 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: a little more like, Okay, I know exactly. 128 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: What I'm doing here now. 129 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: Uh. 130 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: In regards to what just everything, you know, where to 131 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: find stuff on campus where they. 132 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 6: Came, Yeah for sure, I mean I came a day earlier. 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 6: Just good things set up, so I'm not rushing. Uh. 134 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's once you've been in a place one time, 135 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 6: you have more familiar and those really help the young 136 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 6: guys find stuff and figure out what things we have 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 6: to offer them as far as resources and massages, needling, 138 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, stuff like that. It's different rooms, 139 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 6: a bunch of different stuff on campus, a lot of 140 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 6: guys on about and so I just try to be 141 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 6: a letter in that aspect for sure. 142 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: What's what's that dynamic in life? This year? 143 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: You get to pick I mean, you get basically a 144 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: whole new room with like you and James basically because 145 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: it is. 146 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: The in the quarterback room. Who's a different dynamic there. 147 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm a vet, you know what I mean. 148 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 6: I've been in league for a while now, so I 149 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 6: have a little respect, you know what I mean, Not 150 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 6: as much as Pat Peek, but I'm obviously the guys 151 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 6: just liketing. I've been here for a while playing football 152 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 6: at high level, and so it's good to be in 153 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 6: a place that it's not my first year here, you 154 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 6: know what I mean. 155 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 7: So guys can come and ask me. 156 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 6: Football questions, and I want guys, you know, they can 157 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 6: come ask me about life questions too. 158 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: You know. 159 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 6: Being just a veteran in this in this position, in 160 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 6: this league, I work ethic, how I recover, you know, 161 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 6: things like that. You know, I try to make myself 162 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 6: available for guys in that regards because I know what 163 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 6: it's like to come into the league. It feels like 164 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 6: it was yesterday, but it was five six years ago. 165 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 6: So you know, I just try to tell guys, you know, 166 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 6: don't be shy, you know, ask questions so you don't 167 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 6: have to guess and try to let it out. 168 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: What's what are you getting a lot of questions? 169 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 7: It depends on today, you know what I mean. 170 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 6: You know, it's different questions, you know what I mean, 171 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 6: it's recerfect questions, playbook questions, what's your. 172 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 7: Before practice, your team? You know what I mean. 173 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 6: So it's just just different things that I know i'd 174 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: have the same questions about, you know, and I had 175 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 6: good leadership when I was in Buffalo or maca employer, 176 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 6: and so when you have guys look out to, it 177 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 6: definitely sets this him up the right way. And then 178 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 6: I can ask Pat Pete, you know, who's gonna be 179 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 6: the league for thirteen years and now it's just unbelievable 180 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 6: still playing on a high level. You know, it's like 181 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 6: he's pooring to me. I'm porn in the young guys, 182 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 6: and so it just continue things. So when you have 183 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 6: good leadership in a room like that, definitely that's the 184 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 6: all room. 185 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: It's gotta be like a kind of a cool dynamic 186 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: to you know, you have a guy like path to 187 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: lean on yourself and then if our guys talking, you know, 188 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: are leaning on you and it's just kind of grows. 189 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: Is it. 190 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 6: Has it been organic or yeah you have to try 191 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 6: to force it or no, no, you never force it, 192 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 6: especially now when you're you play the same position. 193 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 194 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 6: He's one of the guys that has tons of respect 195 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 6: from everybody in the league. You know, he's been playing 196 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 6: at a high level. But I told a lot of 197 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: people the most important thing is is the nanity is 198 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 6: off the field. I mean it's so approachable, it's so easy. 199 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 7: To talk to you. 200 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 6: I mean we both share a passionate golf, so that's 201 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 6: super fun. But definitely playing I'm playing a little bit 202 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 6: here coming up soon, and so set that you could 203 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 6: just talk to about anything. Who's married, he has a 204 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 6: beautiful family. God just respect that way. And then he 205 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 6: just comes to work and he's just all dropping nuggets 206 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 6: and so if you don't pay attention to you're missing. 207 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 7: And so just having a guy like that in the 208 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 7: room is super dope. 209 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: I feel like he's a Hall of Famer. 210 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 6: Come on, I know, absolutely no questions about it. Look 211 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 6: at his work on and off the field. I mean 212 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 6: he's a legend. 213 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: It's gonna be cool too to have a guy in 214 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 4: your room that has that kind of not just respect here, 215 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: but respect every year. 216 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 217 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I know for me it was you know, 218 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 6: Todae Gus White, who's also a really good corner all 219 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 6: park corner that I had the chance to look up 220 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: to in Buffalo for a few years, and I know 221 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 6: he'd be a hollering him as well, and so i'd 222 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 6: A'm glassed to be a part of some some good 223 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 6: DB's lives, you know what I mean. They've been able 224 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 6: to pour into me and it's made me the corner 225 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 6: that the m to day. So I look forward to 226 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 6: the season with Pat just his leadership and just asking 227 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 6: him questions about what he sees and you know, studying 228 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 6: the game like how he studies it. And hopefully I 229 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 6: can be in the same position one day. 230 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: What have you seen from the two young guys or 231 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: two rookies. 232 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 6: I mean, they're doing a great job. I mean we 233 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 6: just started stay four now, you know what I mean. 234 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: And so. 235 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's hard in OTAs when you're coming in, 236 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 6: you get drafted and you see all the other guys 237 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 6: come in and everybody knows to playbook and you're still 238 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 6: trying to learn it. And so this time we would 239 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 6: get real settled down and it's just nothing but football, 240 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 6: so you can talk about football all day, no outside distractions. 241 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 6: And so they're doing a good job just coming into 242 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 6: it and just be the last day without paths and 243 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 6: then put the paths on, kind of have those you know, 244 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 6: adjustments that we have to make, you know, and it's 245 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: football is tiring, especially when you go away for camp. 246 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 6: But you know you can lean on your brothers. And 247 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: so I tell them tolen me and ask me a bunch 248 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 6: of questions, and I try to pour into them. 249 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 7: And you know, I'm starting. 250 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 6: To just give them goals eaching every day and like, 251 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 6: all right, let's let's work on work on one thing today, 252 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 6: and they what kind of goals you have for yourself, 253 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: And if they don't have any, I'll give them one, 254 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 255 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 7: Kind of just built the leadership with them, knowing that 256 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 7: I want the best for them, you know what I mean. 257 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 6: And I think I keep telling people it's it's one 258 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 6: of the most unique environments because you're competing for a job, 259 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 6: but at the same time you're building chemistry. And I 260 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 6: know one day football ends, you know what I mean. 261 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 6: And it's about the relationships that you build on and 262 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 6: off the field. And so I wish anybody that I 263 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 6: played for or play around the best in life next 264 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 6: summer field. 265 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: That's all about trusting your own skills as well, right, 266 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yeah, you know you're good. 267 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, And at the same time, like we 268 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 6: would play two different two different skills set. You got 269 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 6: these big corners who play a little differently than I play, 270 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And then they want to 271 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 6: ask about like how I cover, and I'm like, yo, listen, 272 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 6: if I had your length, i'd probably play it like this. 273 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 6: Absolutely I'm not, and I didn't think I was until 274 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 6: these two giants came into the room and I'm like, yo, 275 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 6: y'all are huge, So I would just do them nut 276 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 6: Like if I if I had your skill set, I 277 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 6: would play it like this, you know what I mean. 278 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 6: And not to say we're two different corners, but they 279 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 6: just have a little bit more, you know. Each and 280 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 6: every year you get different athletes coming into the league, 281 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 6: it seems like the corner's just getting bigger and bigger. 282 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 6: And I'm like, man, look back in my day, I mean, 283 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 6: I came out with like Denzel war Jay, you're Alexander. 284 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 6: You know, a lot more slimmer guys who can just 285 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 6: really run. And so it's just the game is changing 286 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 6: a little bit and so this is a little give 287 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 6: and take, and so I know more of those guys 288 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 6: are comfortable to be able to come into their own 289 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 6: just fim. 290 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: They should be picking your brains, are like your technician, right. 291 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 7: I try to be. 292 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 6: I try to be each and every day, and they 293 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 6: see it on film and so it mean it's like 294 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 6: they're asking me questions. You know, if I wasn't that good, 295 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 6: you know, maybe they wouldn't be asking me as many questions. 296 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: So I'm always I feel free to just give away 297 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: knowledge because one day I won't be in the league 298 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 6: and those guys still be playing, and I want them 299 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 6: on TV and be like, yo, look, I remember I 300 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 6: taught them that back in the day, and he surpassed 301 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 6: me now. And so it's just good to see guys 302 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 6: just coming in the league. They're just hungry for information 303 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 6: and knowledge. 304 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: That was Steelers cornerback Levi Wallace when we went on 305 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: a long, long journey there through That was we did 306 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: that on Saturday maybe Sunday, I can't remember whichever day 307 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: it was. 308 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: Sunday, yeah, and it was sounded like Sunday. 309 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the last day of that they were unpadded practice. 310 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: That's why there's some questions about that. But I did 311 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: want to play that back because it was germane to 312 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: the I mean, that room has really undergone a lot 313 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: of change. 314 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: A ton of change. And I'm gonna get back to 315 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: the corners and one one second here, but he he 316 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: mentioned about handing out knowledge and people tapping his brain. 317 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: That was really going on here during that interview with Solamalu. 318 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Kendrick Green was in there working hard, really 319 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: asking Solomlu tips, and I was paying a lot of 320 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: attention to that offensive line powwow here on the thirty 321 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: five yard line, and Green and Solomlu were really interacting. 322 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: You could see he was soaking up the knowledge of 323 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: the veteran, you know, and you've seen a lot of 324 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: that on this team, and Wallace is a perfect example. 325 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing is he talks about how much 326 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: then he is learning from Patrick Peterson M h okay. 327 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of levels there. Speaking of corners, 328 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: looks like porters down here with all the reporters, you know, 329 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: chatting it up as well. 330 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: So probably talking about that play with George. 331 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: Pickens, I'm sure. And then he had an interception shortly after, 332 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: too correct. Yeah, they got a good battle going on, 333 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: which is great to him in the similar body types, 334 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: similar age, that type of thing. And you know you 335 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: mentioned the corner room. It is a nice spacing of 336 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: Peterson's age to Wallace's age to Porter's age, you know, right, and. 337 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: You've got James Pierre there, You've got Gray Trice is 338 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: another young guy. Chandon Sullivan's a guy who's been around 339 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: the league a little bit. 340 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: Right, and he comes over with Peterson from the same defense, 341 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: right right, you know. 342 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I mean that's all. That's all part 343 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: of this Duke Dawson's and other guys, you know, four 344 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: years in the league. So they've got some guys there. 345 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: Who Dawson's done a few good things too. Over Yeah, 346 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: absolutely creating camp. 347 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: So some different guys there in that room that. 348 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: They call him Elijah Riley of safety or a corner. 349 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: They list him just as a dB. 350 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, what room he went to? 351 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to. I want to talk to him 352 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: and ask him that does he consider himself more of 353 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: a safe because he's they did use him at safety 354 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: last year. He's six foot, two hundred and five pounds, 355 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: so he's you know, he's not. But he does a 356 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: lot of spot it does a lot of different stuff 357 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: and those that you know, that's just that that position 358 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: in general in the NFL today, the guy who's kind 359 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: of getting some push here is Kenny Robinson out of 360 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: West Virginia, the third year guy. 361 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: I need to ask Wess about him tonight. I think 362 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: Wes is going to join us this evening. I'm gonna 363 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: talk about definitely get his opinion on the guy, because boy, 364 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: he is benefiting from the Caz and Minka situations. 365 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Casey not practicing again today with that 366 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: ankle issue and make a Fitzpatrick still excuse from camp here, 367 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: so we'll see what's going on with that. But Robinson, 368 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: after a couple of picks on Sunday, sees himself out 369 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: there getting some first team reps. And that's that's how again, 370 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: that's how you get the coaches attention. 371 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of the goal line drills. I saw 372 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: him get his hands on the football and getting you know, 373 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: getting an opportunity. I mean, hecka the first preseason game, 374 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: he might play two thirds of snaps and maybe even 375 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: the opening snap, right, right, So somebody's got to do it. 376 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: Somebody has to do it. And you know, if you're 377 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: a young guy like that, that's a great way to 378 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: to show that you you belong here, is to get 379 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: your hands on a couple of balls and hang into 380 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: I hang on to them. I know, Mike Tomlin stresses 381 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: that with these guys. You know, hey, let's let's make 382 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: a play, intercept the ball. Yeah, make some plays. If 383 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: you make plays, you're gonna you're gonna find a way 384 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: to maybe stick around a little bit. 385 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: No, we have no way of knowing, and we're not 386 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: gonna go watch the all twenty two of practice or anything. 387 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he's making his share of mistakes 388 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: as well, but as they all do, make them twice. 389 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: You make them twice as what doesn't say, And if 390 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: you're making big plays in the meantime, well, we're gonna 391 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: throw you back out there, you know. So that's great. 392 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: Coaches can live with mistakes if you're making if you're 393 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: taking the ball away. 394 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: Especially if it's a mistake. Training camp and not again 395 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: correct the ravens of week ten or whatever. Right, you know, 396 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: of course, get those mistakes out of your system. They're 397 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: all gonna be everyone's gonna make them. No one's gonna 398 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: be perfect on those. 399 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's why you have training camp. Nobody's 400 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: perfect out here. Although I must say again, can you 401 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: pick it's been pretty darn good. 402 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: Pretty darn good, no doubt about it. Throwing the football 403 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: well too. I want to mention too, Trubisky spend quite 404 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: a bit of time after practice today throwing just on 405 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: his own deep stuff. 406 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, getting that extra work. And things are kind 407 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: of winding down here a little bit. Is we put 408 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: practice number five in the books here at Saint Vincent College. 409 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: But Matt and I are going to take another break 410 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy and 411 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: we'll be back with more live from Saint Vincent College 412 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: right after this. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He 413 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson, and this is the drive on Steelers 414 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy and Matt I wanted 415 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: to touch on something here bringing on because we get more 416 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: into Trinka and we didn't discuss this at all off 417 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: the air, but people might I've heard a lot of 418 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: people saying, well, you know, the Steelers, they're gonna have 419 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: a tough time in their division, blah blah blah, and 420 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: the division's really tough. 421 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: I tend to agree with that tough time. But I 422 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: agree that's very tough. 423 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: Okay, it's very tough. Here's what's not tough. I'm looking 424 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: here at the over undertotals from Vegas. 425 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: Okay, the wind totals. 426 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: They don't set these looking to lose money on them. 427 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: They're exceptionally accurate. 428 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: They're exceptionally accurate. They usually nail it pretty close to the. 429 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: Over the course of the last month. Some of them 430 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 3: may have drifted zero point five or whatever. They correct 431 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: themselves too, right, and as people get signed in, injuries 432 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: and all that too, they're fluid, so dead. 433 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: Last right now is the Arizona Cardinals four and a 434 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: half over under four and a half, next to the 435 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: Buccaneers at six and a half, the Rams at six 436 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: and a half, the Colts at six and a half, 437 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: the Texans at six and a half, and the Commanders 438 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: at six and a half. 439 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 3: And these guys take into strength of schedule. I mean, 440 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 3: they really dig into these numbers, they don't just pull 441 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: them out the air. 442 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: Then you have the Bears, the Panthers, the Patriots, the Titans, 443 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: the Raiders, the Packers, and the Giants at seven and 444 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: a half. 445 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: Okay, seventeen game schedule, of course. 446 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: Right now, I bring this up because that basically gets 447 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: you one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen. 448 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: They got thirteen teams at seven and a half or 449 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: under or lower. Of those thirteen teams, Vegas Fields is 450 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: going to be the worst teams in the league. The 451 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: Steelers play the Cardinals, there's one who at four and 452 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: a half. They play the Rams who are at six 453 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah, they play the cultsure at six 454 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: and a half. They play the Texans that are six 455 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: and a half. They play the Patriots that are seven 456 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: and a half. They play the Titans who are seven 457 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: and a half. They play the Raiders who are seven 458 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: and a half, They play the Packers who are seven 459 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: and a half. 460 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: That's eight eight, that is eight. 461 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: Eight of your seventeen games are against the thirteen teams 462 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: that Las Vegas Fields are going to be the worst 463 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: teams in the league. 464 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I mean, the division is hard. I mean, 465 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that was your point at all. I mean, 466 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: it's just the rest of the schedule is very kind, 467 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: very light, absolutely very. 468 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Light in terms of you know, again, you're not playing 469 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: the heavyweights out there like they've done in previous years. 470 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: If you can go in those eight games, you're not. 471 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: Gonna win all eight, No you're not. But if you 472 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: go six and two, right, I would think that's probably 473 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: the way it's best spelled. I mean, I think that's 474 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: the expectations. You win six of those. 475 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: Okay, you win six of those, I'll say you go 476 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: two and four in the division. 477 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: I like two in the division. Yeah, okay, that's eight. 478 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: That's eight. 479 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 3: And then there's other games. 480 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: And you've got the Seahawks who are at eight and 481 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: a half, the same as the Steelers. You've got the 482 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: Jaguars at nine and a half right now, but that's 483 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: that's year. You get the Lions who are nine and 484 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: a half. Okay, that's in Pittsburgh. 485 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: Okay, do they then play the lines? 486 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, looking here, the forty nine Ers are ten and 487 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: a half, but that's opening week in Pittsburgh. Uh, they're 488 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: they're you know, those are three games. 489 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: The other three games, yeah, yeah, and win one of that, 490 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 3: win one of those. 491 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: Now you're at nine, right, and you're in contention for 492 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 493 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: No, I think that's fair. 494 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: They go three and three in the division in really 495 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: good shape. Absolutely, especially that's what everybody in the AFC 496 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: North was three and three against each other last year. 497 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: That's the entire year. 498 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: Everyone everyone split, right, and that could easily happen again 499 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: without a dot. 500 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: That's in fact, if I were the betting a betting man, 501 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: that's what I would bet on. 502 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. 503 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: Nobody dominates this division. 504 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: No, no, really, that's absolutely the case, and much like 505 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: last year, I would not be shocked if the Bengals 506 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: start very slow. I don't know what, especially when they 507 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: have to start four to six weeks with that. 508 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: Now I know. 509 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it keeps getting a little longer and a 510 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: little longer. And we've been doing this long enough that 511 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: you know, when the regular season starts rolling around, like, 512 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: he'll probably be ready. It looks good, and then a 513 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 3: couple of days, well maybe he'll miss week one, you know, 514 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: like it always gets pushed a week or two. 515 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 2: Now, I'm sure he's going to push the playing week well, 516 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: of course we saw what it looked like last year 517 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: when he didn't play the entire preseason and then playing 518 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: Week one, they played Cleveland. 519 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: Right again, I don't know what their opening schedule is. 520 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: It's Cleveland, okay, And so I could see them starting slow, 521 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: which is big, and I would put them as the 522 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: not consensus, but I would put them as the favorite. 523 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: Their vision, they're the best team and they're the best 524 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: game at least on paper, you know, but you drop 525 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: thinks so. 526 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: In the division early it could be could be a problem. 527 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: You've vented in this many times. But a huge thing 528 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: that hurt the Steelers last year was conference record, the 529 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: tie breakers or the tie breaker right absolutely, because. 530 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: You lost to the Jets, you lost to the Dolphins, 531 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: you lost to the Rue England, New England. Those are 532 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: the games that that really cost you a playoffs. But 533 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: win one of those yearly outside of the division, you're 534 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: at ten wins. But b you've knocked one of those 535 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: other teams out of contention and you win, you win 536 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: the tie breaker against that team. 537 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and outside of Jacksonville and the division, I think 538 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 3: I would have the Steelers favor. I mean, they should 539 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: be favored in all the other AFC games. I mean 540 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: if they played right. 541 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: Now, I mean the Raiders aren't a contender. 542 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are really bad. 543 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: The Titans aren't. 544 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: What's the Raiders over underwent seven and a half? I 545 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: would go on, that'd be one of my favorite Pettit's 546 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: are under on. 547 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: That is plus one thirty right now to. 548 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: Go, I mean, Jimmy's gonna play twelve games, right, yeah. 549 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: And that's the other side of this thing. You get 550 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: a little bit of a So right now, it's minus 551 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: one thirty for Cardinals over four and a half, largely 552 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: because that's such a low number. It's rare, I mean 553 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: to be able to get under, right, But the Rams 554 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: are minus one ten both ways. Six and a half 555 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: is like, okay, that's telling me that every they're getting. 556 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 3: They're getting equal money on both both. 557 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: Sides the culture six and a half. It's minus one 558 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: thirty five for the over, plus one fifteen for the under. 559 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: So you get better payback if you go under. Yeah, 560 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: so more people are betting the over right now. 561 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: The Texans are plus one ten on the overside of that. 562 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 3: I know so little about betting, I wonder how strong 563 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: it has to go to get from six and a 564 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: half to seven wins. If people are betting the over 565 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: so much. 566 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like it would have to move 567 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: pretty pretty heavily. Yeah. Yeah, I'm still surprised that the 568 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: Steelers are at eight and a half. 569 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: And we even said that those eight teams, including the Packers, 570 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 3: who I think are decent, some of those are you know, 571 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: seven and a half winners, they're not the bottom. Fela. 572 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: Let's say they do we six and two against those teams, 573 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: but it's not insane to say they go seven to 574 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: one or eight, no, right, I mean yeah again, I mean. 575 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: They swept the NFC South last year. That Jags game 576 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: could be big, but it's here again because that's in Pittsburgh. 577 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: That's a tough AFC game. I mean you look at 578 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: some of a lot of those games you know that 579 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: might say, well, you know that game against the A 580 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: team like the the the Titans, Well yeah, but that's 581 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. The game against the Patriots, Yeah, it's in Pittsburgh. 582 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: You know, these the toughest ones are in Pittsburgh. And 583 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: they go you to Houston, you go to Arizona. 584 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: Arizona, they also have very favorable rest advantages as well. 585 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: You know, like they're not playing uh, they're not playing 586 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: anyone's coming off a bye this year, right, I mean 587 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: that's rare too. You know, they're not getting hit real 588 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: hard with like Thursday short week stuff things of that nature, 589 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: so their rest situation is pretty good. 590 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 591 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: I mean you're going that you're going to Indianapolis and 592 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: two Los Angeles to play the Rams, and two to 593 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: Houston to play the Texas. Well, those are three of 594 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: the worst teams in the league. 595 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and absolutely things will change. 596 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: You can lose to those teams. 597 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, Anthony Richardson, C J. Stroud Maybe one of 598 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: those looks like a phenom, but maybe Burrows not there 599 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: when you play them, or you know what I mean, 600 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: absolutely right. 601 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: I just think that's you know, when people are looking 602 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: at the Steelers schedule, they're overlooking that. 603 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: I agree. 604 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: I mean that the non division schedule could not set 605 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: up any nicer and could in terms of the teams 606 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: that you play this year. 607 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: And we knew before the schedule release that the teams 608 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: they were playing were favorable, but you don't know when 609 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: you don't travel all that stuff. And for the most part, 610 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: the release stuff, the actual you know, the dates and 611 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: where and all those things worked that quite well. 612 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: The really tough part is like the last four games. 613 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta put money in the bank, right, 614 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: you absolutely do. 615 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you better have nine or you know, even ten 616 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: wins going into that spot. 617 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: Which, needless to say, you don't know how healthy you'll 618 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: be right in that last month as well. 619 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: Those teams will be right right right. You know, Lamar 620 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: Jackson hasn't played a game in December the last two years. 621 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly what's Watson going to look like and all 622 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: those things, So of course there's a ton of variables. 623 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: You know, none of us can tell the future. But 624 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 3: I love their schedule. 625 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that. You know, if I were, 626 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: if I were a betting man, eight and a half 627 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: would be I would hammer that. 628 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: I would too, to be very honest, It's one of 629 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: my favorite bets. Of all those teams I mentioned, Raiders under, 630 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: I think is one I like a lot. But I 631 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: mean it's Steelers over, whether I had any affiliation with 632 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 3: the team or not, is one that I like a lot. 633 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 634 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at some of these other ones to 635 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: see if anything stands out to me here, Jaguars over 636 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: nine and a half. I don't know. If I could 637 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: go there. 638 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: I would go over as supposed to under. I think 639 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 3: they have a chance to win six or five in 640 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: the division. 641 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: That's the thing. Yeah, there's they're like the opposite of 642 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: the Steelers because they'll play because they're playing a first 643 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: place schedule. 644 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: Oh they got Kansas City, Buffalo and the Bengals in Bengals. 645 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the division schedule. 646 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: Is is wonderful. Yeah, I mean they have a very 647 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: clear path to win the division, which is exactly what 648 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: you like? What was what I was thinking? I like 649 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: Atlanta's over what do they add to they at eight? 650 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: The Falcons are eight and a half? 651 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean that division has an extremely easy schedule. 652 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: Somebody has to win it, and I think people I 653 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: think Atlanta has come a long way. 654 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just looking at some of these others. 655 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: Saints in Atlanta, of the two easyes schedules. 656 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: In the league, pairs under seven and a half. 657 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: I think people are getting too excited about it. 658 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't see that. Yeah, that might 659 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: be putting the cart before the horse a little bit. 660 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: That might be the worst defense in the League of 661 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: Rams are pretty bad. I mean, there's a couple of 662 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: bad ones, but that's they dedicate everything to offense. 663 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: This year Colts Colts under six and a half if 664 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: they don't have Jonathan Taylor. 665 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: That's messy. 666 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that could that could turn your whole 667 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: locker room, Like, why are we not paying this dude? 668 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: Right? 669 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: So I was on vacation or I didn't quite understand 670 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 3: what happened with that, And I guess what happened was 671 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: they threatened because he complained about some sort of back issue, that. 672 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna put you on the non football injury Listen, 673 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: you don't get paid exactly. 674 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: And I say, that's the one card that the NFL 675 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: has with those dudes, that they can throw you on 676 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: that list and basically you're not getting paid. And my 677 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: initial thoughts were, you want to talk about destroying a 678 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: locker room with a new coach, a new quarterback. I mean, 679 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: that is not good business practice. If you're seeing him 680 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: walk in the halls and lifting and working out, and 681 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're like, hey, we're just not 682 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: gonna pay him because he's complaining, you know, And. 683 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: Then Zack Moss who's their number two back. He got 684 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: hurt yesterday, his arm yesterday. Yeah, like he's gonna be 685 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: out for a while. 686 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: Taylor's one of the few backs that I would be 687 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: on the phone with with the team if there's a 688 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: chance you could get him at a reasonable right at 689 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: his age, I mean, coming off an injury. It's as 690 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: probably the lowest stock as he'll be for a while. 691 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: There's a handful of teams, Miami, the Chiefs, Bills, teams 692 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: like that I would be calling. 693 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ravens. 694 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, especially with Dobbin's contract looming. 695 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: If you're a Steeler fan, you don't want to see that. 696 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: No, I don't want him in the division at all. Frankly, 697 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: if the Bengals knew this a week ago, I would 698 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: have cut mix in and called made a trade for Taylor. Yeah, 699 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: and much cheaper, younger, better, better, better. 700 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 701 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Now that's the move that you make. 702 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: But Steelers running backs when out there doing some work too, by. 703 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: The way, out there doing some pass catching. 704 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: Work on his hands are really really good. And I 705 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: bring this up often, but they're huge, they're huge, and 706 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: his arms are insanely long. But he was making catches 707 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: behind his back with this drill. I mean, his hands 708 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: are tremendous, and I know he caught a lot of 709 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: passes as a rookie, but they were dump off varieties 710 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: from Ben. You've seen this a lot. I mean they 711 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: run fades with him here and things in the end zone. 712 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: I mean as a rookie, I mean his his receiving 713 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: cornucopia acumen has not yet been shown to the public. 714 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: Well that's the one. So two years ago and he 715 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: was a rookie. It was still in COVID and uh 716 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: we we got him after practice one day and I 717 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: mentioned to him that that he had a one handed 718 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: catch down the side in practice and I said, hey. 719 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: That was They were happening a lot. 720 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: They were happening a lot of over his head. And 721 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: I said to him, like, hey, that was you know 722 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: that one handed catch you had, you know that was 723 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: that was pretty sweet. He goes, oh you saw that, Like, yeah, 724 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: we were watching. He said where were you watching from? 725 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: And I said, we were on the balcony up above 726 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: the practice field watching. So I thought that was the 727 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: boosters up there, and it kind of and we went 728 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: a little viral. I'm like, no, we weren't the boosters. 729 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: But we're the media here watching that stuff. 730 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: But he's done a lot of it. I mean I 731 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: noticed more of it in his rookie year than the 732 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: late But just watching him do these drills, I mean 733 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: he has really good hands. 734 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd like to see them use that a little more. Uh, 735 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: Both backs Jalen Moore. 736 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: And McFarland too, is really being is being I know 737 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: it's a make or break year for him, but it 738 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: sure seems like they think it's going to be a 739 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: make year, not a break year. 740 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, and you saw today when they were they started 741 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: the inside run drills. You saw Nogee Harris in the 742 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: backfield with Anthony McFarland in the slots, and they used 743 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: him as the guy screaming across the formation. 744 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: Yep, Yep, you've seen. Uh, it's not trade secrets anymore. 745 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: I mean I even wrote this. There's a lot of 746 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: two back they call tony. I mean that's just kind 747 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: of a term across the league. With two backs on 748 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: the field, two running backs, not fullbacks. It's gonna be 749 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: something to get used to. And I'm not saying McFarland 750 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: has this team made, but seems that way to me. Yeah, 751 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: I mean they're using him a lot, and if there. 752 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: Turning that that that those other running backs just trying 753 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: to find something there. 754 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 755 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good sign for Anthony McFarland. He just 756 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: needs to do something on special teams. 757 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know what that is right now. I 758 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: mean his snapcounts the last two years are very very low, 759 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: just because he can't get a helmet on game day. 760 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: But they can find special teamers other places, or he 761 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: can at least run down on kickoffs or you know, 762 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: give you a little something there that would sure help. 763 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: But I think he's in the mix. 764 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: I think he is as well. We're going to take 765 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: another break. He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale, Lolly. 766 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio 767 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: and ESPN nine seventy. We are live from Saint Vincent 768 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: College here in beautiful Latrobe, Pennsylvania, where the Steelers just 769 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: wrapped up their fifth practice session, their first padded practice session. 770 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: We'll be back to bringing more of the coverage here. 771 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: We're here until six o'clock tonight. 772 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: Right after this, you're listening to the official voice out 773 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: Black and Gold Nation SNR. 774 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. Am Back, I am Dale lolly. He 775 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson and that guy over there there is 776 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson. 777 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he is enjoying himself. 778 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 2: He is having a heck of a good time here. 779 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Now he's he's getting study. He's got some people throwing 780 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: him stuff. He's everybody's grabbing it like he's walking trying 781 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: to get out of here, and people were handing them 782 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: their phone and he taking selfies with him. 783 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: He's been out there what at least half an hour, He's. 784 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: At least half an hour I mean practice. 785 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: And now he's talking to media, talking to some media here. 786 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: Practice ended forty five minutes ago and he's been over 787 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: there working the fans on the hillside like a true pro. 788 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: I think he's enjoying being a Pittsburgh Steeler quite a bit, 789 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: I would say so. And they're enjoying him too. 790 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 791 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: It brings a lot of the time I have. 792 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: You have to talk to anybody who has not enjoyed 793 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: being around Patrick Peterson, right, including. 794 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: Ourselves, right, And I say we had a really good 795 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: conversation with him. That was his reputation before he got 796 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: to town. I'm sure that has something to do with 797 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: him being in town. And also extremely talented and as 798 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: a mentorship, and there's a lot that he brings. 799 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 800 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: I remember I didn't see that one coming when they 801 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: signed him, you know, like I looked at some of 802 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: the corners and thought hey, But the second they did, 803 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: I thought, boy, he's kind of old. Is that really 804 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: the good move? And then you you dig into his 805 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: tape a little bit more and all the stuff he 806 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 3: brings off the field, and it's like, oh, that makes 807 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: all sense in world. They're gonna draft one too, you know. 808 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right right, They're not done, right, right. 809 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: Right, that's just step one of the corner. 810 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: Hed you bring in a guy like that, it's like, 811 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 2: you know again, much like for example, the Broncos bringing 812 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: in Peyton Manning at the end of his career. You 813 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: do it for what's above the neck, right, and the 814 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: intangibles that he brings to your locker room. 815 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Right. 816 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: I mean, the Cardinals bring in JJ Watt and all 817 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: the you know, keep area around a year, maybe longer 818 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: than they should have. Things like that. I mean that 819 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 3: that stuff really does matter. 820 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: The crazy thing is the Cardinals had that guy and 821 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: they let him want right good point shouldn't I they 822 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: should not have right before that the Browns let Joe 823 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: Hayden walk and they should have done that. 824 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another boneheit to move right, Yeah, it might 825 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: be another one of those who knows, there could be 826 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: one of those tuopid. I mean, Joe Hayden wasn't a 827 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: Steeler this time that year? 828 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: Was he he was not? 829 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 830 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that didn't happen until after a preseason game 831 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: number four, I believe if it was that. Yeah, yeah, 832 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: it was after the Carolina game or right at the 833 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: Carolina game, if I remember correctly. But speaking of another guy, 834 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: he's having himself a good time out here this year. 835 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: Can he picket? 836 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 837 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: He looks very comfortable, very comfortable. I think he's comfortable 838 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: in his own skin. He's out here, he's having fun 839 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: on a daily basis. He's taking good care of the football, 840 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: he's making all the throws. He's been a leader and 841 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 2: everything that you would expect your quarterback to be. And well, 842 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: he spoke to the media. 843 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: He's not bumbling anything or asking for help or what 844 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: are we doing this play? I mean, he was very 845 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 3: much in control. 846 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: Very much in control. And he spoke with the gathered 847 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: media earlier today before practice, and I thought we'd play 848 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: that back and hear what Picket had to say. 849 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 5: He's we've been at homelets since spring, so he had 850 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 5: the pads on. It kind of really won the full 851 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 5: offense and get true looks offensively in defensively. 852 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think guys were pretty excited for it. 853 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: A week done. 854 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 7: How comfortable do you feel with the way this team looks, 855 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 7: specifically the offense. 856 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot more comfortable in last season. 857 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: Obviously. 858 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 5: I think we did a really good job of spray 859 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 5: and on those things. I think it kind of show 860 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 5: it out there in the first week, but how smooth 861 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 5: we were running. There's no imas. Guys are where they 862 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 5: needed to be, and I thought it was pretty crisp. 863 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 5: You know, I'll been in for the first week, so 864 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 5: I'm excited to build on it. 865 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 7: Kenny, I know you don't. 866 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: You don't get hit or hit anybody, But how does 867 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 3: having the pads on effect maybe or help what you 868 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 3: do or what you see. 869 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 5: Or what you It's just a live feel in the pocket, 870 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 5: you know, guys are it's full go up front, it's 871 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: full go everywhere else. So it feels like a game 872 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 5: to me obviously, just not getting hit, but it's still 873 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 5: a live reps for me, which is. 874 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: Really good for me. 875 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 5: Who are you most excited to kind of build that 876 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: chemistry with it you haven't been. 877 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: Able to yet. 878 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 5: I'd probably say guys that I haven't worked with, like Darnell. 879 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 5: Like he's a guy that I haven't had a lot 880 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: of reps with, So continue to build that with him 881 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 5: and we'll get down the red zon nat. I think 882 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 5: he'll be huge, huge there, building off of what we 883 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 5: did in the spring. So he's a guy that I 884 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 5: want to continue to work with. 885 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 7: How's he done as smart as learning to play? 886 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's done a great job. Darnell is doing a 887 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 5: great job. He's working hard, He's got a lot of 888 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 5: stuff going in so I'm sure his mind is hundred 889 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 5: miles an hour, so it'll still down for him. 890 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm just. 891 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: Not having Also, can you one's the biggest difference you've 892 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: seen in George? 893 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: I'd probably say he's full route. 894 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: I mean he definitely worked on his routes, his releases, 895 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 5: the full route tree. 896 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 2: He has the Cristmas of his routes. He's locked in mentally. 897 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: He's doing a really good job learning the system and 898 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 5: playing different spots so we can move him around some more, 899 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 5: which is me great. 900 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 8: There was a play last week where he had a 901 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 8: bunch of yards after the catch and he said that 902 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 8: his speed is something that people maybe overlook. 903 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: Is that an element of his game that could take 904 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: some people by surprise. 905 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 5: I think, so I just want to hit him in 906 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 5: shot and let him just go. I mean, he has 907 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 5: he has the wheels, and I just want to, you know, 908 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 5: give him a good ball and let him go to 909 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 5: the rest. So you know, that's my job to put 910 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 5: it where it needs to be and then let him 911 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 5: go be him different circumstances. 912 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 8: You guys haven't made a secret you're planning to run 913 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 8: the ball, you know, but some people think that means 914 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 8: it's gonna be one dimensional. They're only going to do that. 915 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 8: How much do those things kind of work together? How 916 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 8: much can you use the run to set up the 917 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 8: pass and maybe take your shots. 918 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say we're a really balanced team. 919 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, even last year. 920 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 5: You know, after the bi week, I think our balance 921 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 5: was great. I think that's what really helped us. So, 922 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 5: you know, adding all those imperments of play action and 923 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 5: get me. 924 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 7: On the move of the bag the game. 925 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 5: Mean, there's a ton of things that we can do 926 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 5: to keep his balance. 927 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 7: I think we've done that. 928 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: So fun? 929 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 2: Do you full work a little bit? 930 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 5: Just how much fun is a day like it for 931 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 5: you guys today, finally getting. 932 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: Those Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. 933 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously we can't go out there and play 934 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 5: as quarterbacks and get hit, but seeing the excitement of 935 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 5: the guys and kind of rallying around it, it'll be 936 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 5: a competitive atmosphere, and so I'm decided to be a 937 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 5: part of it. 938 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think. Do you feel more 939 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: comfortable taking shots downfield than maybe you did this time 940 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 2: last year when you're. 941 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do? I do. 942 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, I have more ownership of 943 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 5: the offense. I understand the looks that I need to 944 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 5: see it. Take the shots down the field. I think 945 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 5: we saw a good amount of them last week, and 946 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 5: that's something we want to continue to do and build on. 947 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 5: You know, if the shots are there, we're gonna take them. 948 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 8: There was there's one play in seven shots the other 949 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 8: day I want to ask you about. You made a 950 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 8: little hand signal. You have to tell us everything, but 951 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 8: just what were you doing there? Changing the play or 952 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 8: changing detect? 953 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 5: It was a look, yeah, just protection and a little 954 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 5: bit of our out adjustment. Something that we want to 955 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 5: just continue to progress and put us in the best 956 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 5: play possible. 957 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 7: Is that something that you would have been able to 958 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 7: do last year? 959 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 8: Is that's something new that you feel you know, you 960 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 8: can better grasp the. 961 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 5: It was definitely available last year, but I have more 962 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 5: control and I feel more comfortable doing it. 963 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: You know. 964 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 5: Obviously been a week one last year's week one shot. 965 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 5: We got a little timing game, an element that. 966 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: You're obviously. 967 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, his feed obviously pops and getting him the wall 968 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 5: in space is huge and he's want to buy guys 969 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 5: and he's going to continue to do that. He's been 970 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 5: working really hard, so I'm really proud of the way 971 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 5: he's want to show up. 972 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 7: You know, he's the pros pro. 973 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 5: So you love playing with cow and decided to continue 974 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 5: to build that, you know, relationship together. 975 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: Here's your bet off for first skirmish. 976 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 5: With the palace been on for what Christopher's kind of skirmish? 977 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 978 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: Oh, that's good. 979 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 5: I mean there's there will be one early on. I'm 980 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 5: sure there always is. 981 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: But it's good. 982 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 2: It's competitive. 983 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 5: Everyone loves each other here, but we're all trying to 984 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 5: wizz that it happens. 985 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: Kenny, Is there a difference between college open and NFL 986 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: UP and what. 987 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: Is the difference? 988 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean being able to throw guys open in 989 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 5: the NFL versus having guys open in college. I think 990 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 5: it's something that you gotta you know, it's really timing 991 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 5: and understanding your receivers and that's something that you know, 992 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 5: we spent a lot of time with together here, so 993 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 5: you know, I feel definitely comfortable of doing that with 994 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 5: our guys. 995 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: Was that the process last year trying to figure out 996 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: the difference. 997 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 7: I feel like I had to understand it of it, 998 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 7: But it's just it's different. 999 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 5: Guys are different, you know, every one runs routes differently, 1000 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 5: their speeds are different. And understanding that I think is 1001 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 5: the biggest the biggest key you. 1002 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: Can they want to ask you about. 1003 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: You know, your. 1004 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 8: Defense has been running that three safety look and at 1005 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 8: times are like rotating around as a quarterback. How much 1006 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 8: confusion or what's it like looking there and how does 1007 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 8: that kind of make you? 1008 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 7: It's great for me. 1009 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 5: I think our defense is one of the best in 1010 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 5: the league in terms of their disguises and the amount 1011 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 5: of looks that they throw are you? So you know, 1012 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 5: I'm working hard every every play on you know, deciphering 1013 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 5: what they're doing. So I think I'm only gonna get 1014 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 5: better at it. And you've got guys like you know, 1015 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 5: Minka and Pat py Kz, you know, those guys are 1016 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 5: those guys are smart guys and then they may be 1017 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 5: work in practice. 1018 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: So I love going against them. 1019 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 8: How challenging is that gonna be for an opposing quarterback 1020 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 8: when they see those three guys out there get back. 1021 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 7: It's a tough look. It's a tough look. 1022 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 5: It's you know, it's something post it's you gotta be 1023 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 5: disciplined posts Apps. So that's something I'm going to continue 1024 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: to work on it and build as the SKM goes good. 1025 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: Rebec can he Pickett earlier today with the media that 1026 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: obviously before practice today, but I thought it was still 1027 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: germane to to place backs of that and some of 1028 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: the stuff that he talked about there. We noticed that 1029 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,959 Speaker 2: that hand signal in seven Shots when we were watching 1030 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: it the other day where he he kind of looked 1031 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: over and gave a little hand signal to the receiver. 1032 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: I believe it was Pat Fryarmouth and he said he 1033 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: was changing a little making a little change in protection 1034 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: and then asking for you know, I think you know 1035 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: the sand was, Hey, Pat, you're singled up here. 1036 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: Let's uh, I like what I see? 1037 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, what's let's do? 1038 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: That been a lot of that. I mean, obviously some 1039 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 3: of it is part of the play design, but all 1040 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 3: all this that we talk about with coming out of 1041 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: the huddle and empty with a running back detached and 1042 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 3: then Kenny, I mean it's on Kenny's signal, you know, 1043 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: they'd move that guy or whatever. I'm sure his protection 1044 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 3: and whatnot will be much better. I'm sure solom all 1045 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 3: who will help with that. Regard second year with the Yeah, 1046 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 3: second year with your starting center as well. I mean, 1047 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: all these guys know each other better. I can't stress 1048 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 3: enough that it was the youngest by far, you know, 1049 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 3: total offense in the league last year. Another year for Pickens, 1050 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 3: all these guys, so they should be able to do 1051 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 3: a lot more pre snap mentally, all on the same page, 1052 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 3: you know, all that kind of stuff. 1053 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why again, going back to when I spoke 1054 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: with Matt Cannada last week, it's one of the things 1055 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: he's you know, he's stressing here, like look, it's not 1056 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 2: an excuse. The young guys aren't an excuse. But look 1057 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 2: at the look at the first year guys in that offense. 1058 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: Last year you had Picket, had Pickens, Jaylen Warren, right, Heyward, Hayward. 1059 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 2: That's four that played a lot, just rookies first year 1060 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: on the right, right on the offense. Last year then 1061 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 2: you had too often two new offensive linemen to that 1062 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: group who were starters, you know, half your offense basically. 1063 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 2: Uh And then you you know, look at the second 1064 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: year guys Fiarmouth and Nagee Harris and Dan Moore, like 1065 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: that's that's half of your offense basically it's on the 1066 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: field on a give on given plays. 1067 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: There's just very little continuity in terms of the whole offense. Right, 1068 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: Calvin Austin was the other one, and yeah, I played 1069 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 3: a lot of them, but I just didn't bring them up. 1070 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: So you know, there is a lot of new there 1071 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: and now they're not new anymore. 1072 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 3: And there's new this year, there's new every year. I mean, 1073 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,959 Speaker 3: your first round pick was a left tackle, you spent 1074 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 3: money on Solamalu, made a trade for Alan Robinson. But 1075 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 3: those last two aren't gonna have any issues right, I mean, 1076 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 3: I mean adding some older guys I think was done 1077 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 3: on purpose, maybe especially the receiver room. 1078 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to add some adults in. 1079 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: The room, professionals. Yeah, right right. 1080 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 2: And we've seen that taking place out here. There's a 1081 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 2: reason why Alan Robinson is rooming with U Pickens. 1082 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: Ok. 1083 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, here in training camp. There's a reason why you 1084 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 2: see Saam Malu out there. U they're talking about, right, 1085 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 2: he really is after every practice and well he looked 1086 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: good today. 1087 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 3: He does, he does, and you would think some of 1088 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 3: the third year guys like a friar mooth. Now he 1089 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: becomes a leader. I remember, like TJ's first couple of years, 1090 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: people didn't consider I mean, you certainly was a bad 1091 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: guy or by example more than vocally, right right, right, 1092 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 3: But you start coming to work every day and you're 1093 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: productive and you're one of the better tight ends in 1094 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 3: the league. You know, people start looking at you know 1095 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 3: you know you're not You don't stay young long in 1096 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 3: this league. 1097 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: And we saw it when we were watching the one 1098 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 2: on one drills over there, and I noted that that 1099 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 2: Nick Herbig after his two reps, immediately goes over and 1100 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: kneels down next to TJA. What you see there. What 1101 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 2: did you see? 1102 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 3: How was it? Yeah, big brother looking. 1103 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 2: For the looking for a little affirmation there, maybe right 1104 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 2: or wrong? 1105 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's just how this organization has 1106 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 3: been great with that for a year, I mean since 1107 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: Joe Green really and it goes a long long way. 1108 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: And you know those guys and you heard, you know, 1109 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 2: when we played back to Levi Wallace tape him talking 1110 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 2: about guys peppering him with questions. 1111 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and and and so he's certainly not 1112 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 3: the new guy anymore. He's one of the only holdover 1113 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: and him. 1114 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 2: Saying that, you know, he gives those two young cornerbacks 1115 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 2: and we'll see what's going on with Corey Trice here, 1116 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: but those two young cornerbacks, he gives them a goal 1117 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, here's your goal for the day. He 1118 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: asked him, if they have a goal, and if they 1119 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 2: don't have a goal, he gives them one. 1120 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: He doesn't have to do any of you know, spend 1121 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: trying to take his job in a way. Yeah, absolutely, 1122 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 3: but you're also teammates and you know, right he does 1123 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 3: not have to do that whatsoever. 1124 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: So you know, that's that's always worked that way in 1125 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 2: a Steelers locker room. I've always been amazed by it, 1126 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: you know, because these are young guys. You if you're 1127 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 2: a veteran guy, you see the writing on the wall 1128 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: with certain things you see. You know, when they draft 1129 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: a guy at your position, it has. 1130 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 3: To be an amazing feeling, you know, like they just 1131 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 3: took a first round pick and that's my spot and 1132 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: I've been started there for eight years or whatever. And yeah, 1133 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 3: I mean, some positions are different. It's not like you're 1134 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 3: only gonna play one wide receiver. But I mean just 1135 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 3: the writings. You don't use first round picks on guys 1136 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 3: that aren't gonna play. 1137 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and and so you know, just to be 1138 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 2: able to trust in your ability that I'm good, I'll 1139 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 2: hold this guy off, right, I'll give him what information 1140 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 2: I can here, but I'm gonna hold him off like that. 1141 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: That's amazing to me. 1142 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 3: And my hunches. If you're the other way, if I'm like, 1143 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make this guy's life as difficult as possible, 1144 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna help him in any way. 1145 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: And that happens what happened around the league a lot 1146 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 2: I've heard from guys around the league. 1147 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 3: But I bet that doesn't settle well with Cam and Tomlin. 1148 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 1: Of course. 1149 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 3: I mean that word gets out quick, you know, and 1150 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: then you might not be here much longer. 1151 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: And you might not be here much longer. We're going 1152 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 2: to be here for another. 1153 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 3: Hour, man, another hour. 1154 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 2: Hour two is in the books. He is Matt Williamson. 1155 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lully. You're listening to the Drive here 1156 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We are 1157 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 2: live from Saint Vincent College here in the press box 1158 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 2: above Chuck Nollfield, and we will be back with more 1159 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 2: right after this