1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie and this is key On your 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: favorite Okay storytime host and we've got great stories coming 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: right up. 4 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: from the sponsors that keep this show alive. My sister 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: went to our cousin's wedding. They refuse to accommodate her needs. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: Well that I'm not coming to the wedding. 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: My little sister, twenty eight female got married tonight. I 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: was not invited, which is perfectly fine since I can't 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: stand the side of the family and I did an 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: invite her to my wedding two years ago. All right, However, 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: my sister and father were both invited. The story focuses 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: on the treatment of my sister. Background. My sister thirty 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: five has a rare form of muscular dystrophy. She is 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: in a power chair and has been since she was two. 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: All she's very obviously physically impaired, has been since birth, 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: and can't even do simple tasks like stretch out her 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: arms all the way. She lives on her own, but 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: has around o'clock here in terms of a nurse at 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: night and an aid during the day. Everyone and her 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: family knows this. By the way, this comes from Depressed 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: Moulan and if you want to submit your own stories, 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: go to the Odd slash Okay story Times. Subredda and 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm Savannah, I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and we are ready 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: to give some good advice in a little goofy way, 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: but we don't have. 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: All the answers. 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: We'd only tell you what we would do, So let 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: us know what you would do down the commons as 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: a pie sus. Around two months ago, my sister got 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: her RSVP in the mail and noticed that she did 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: not receive a plus one. She reached out and to 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: her inquire if there was a way she could bring 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: her boyfriend as her aid. All right. Aunt responded that 35 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: the bride doesn't know the boyfriend, so that's out of 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: the question. My sister understood and asked if there was 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: a preference on who she brings. She has aids that 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: have been with her almost since birth, so the whole 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: family knows them. Our aunt informed her that she doesn't 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: get a plus one at all and that our dad 41 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: can take care of her. 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, to be like, yeah, no, the people that 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: you need to help you can't be there because we didn't. 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: We just have like it's our wedding. We don't want it. 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: We don't want to people that we don't know. Then 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: I can't come. Also, why are you not invite? Didn't 47 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: he say why she wasn't invited? They don't just said 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: each other. 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she didn't invite her to her wedding two 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: years ago. 51 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: That's crazy, we just didn't invite. 52 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: My sister told her that unfortunately, that wouldn't work as 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: our dad can't do all of her needs, example bathroom. 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: That's true. 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Our aunt got snippy with her and told her that 58 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: she thought her dad gets paid by the state to 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: help her. Now he does, but only for a few 60 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: hours one day a week, in between her aid leaving 61 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: and nurse coming on shift. Eventually, our aunt relented, but 62 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: only if my sister and her aid share a plate, 63 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: as they didn't plan for this in their invite list. 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: So weird what we have to share? I have to 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: share a plate. 66 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: My special sister has to share a plate. 67 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: Ridiculous. 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Already feeling like an inconvenience, my sister readily agreed since 69 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: she just wanted to see my cousin get married. Fast 70 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: forward to the wedding, ceremony goes fine, My sister stayed 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: towards the back so she wouldn't be in the way. 72 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: Then she goes to find their places for dinner. Her 73 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: aid has a place setting and nametag, all of that, 74 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 2: My sister nothing. They didn't even set a napkin out 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: for her or make room at the table for her wheelchair. 76 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: That's crappy. Yeah, to give the aid food. So now 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: they're not even sharing food. Aid is the only one 78 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: who gets to eat and sister can't even be at 79 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: the table. Yeah what then why even invite her? Just say, oh, 80 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 3: we don't have enough room. 81 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see why you don't like her, obie. 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: Then my grandmother came up to tell her that she 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: had to share her food, which she already knew, but 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: then got mad when her aid laughed and snapped, I'm serious, 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: you need to share. Fortunately, the food was good and 86 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: there was plenty, so sharing was fine. Now this is 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: the family that would make snide comments during my childhood 88 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: about my parents being divorced and us being poor and classless. 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: God, these people sound like real joys. 90 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: They constantly flaun how much money they have. But Penny 91 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: pinched so badly for this wedding that they were unwilling 92 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: to let a physically disabled person bring her required accommodation, 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: a person she needs to even be able to eat. 94 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: Needless to say, she left early and was hurt. That's 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: so sad. 96 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, these people are clearly awful if 97 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: this is how they're treating your sister. 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: The fact that she physically cannot be able to do 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: anything by herself, and then they're like, you're not allowed 100 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: to bring anyone. 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I kill It feels like they didn't want 102 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: her to come. It feels like they invited her because 103 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: they didn't want to be Then. 104 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: She said she was like, oh, I can't come, and 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: they were like, oh, fine, then bring the aid. 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. They're being weird. 107 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: Another way, they cut costs, ordered a cake from someone 108 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: other than the caterer, and apparently didn't plan on when 109 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: to pick it up because when they tried to get 110 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: it and drive it to the venue themselves, the baker 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: closed hours before and they had to call and beg 112 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: them to give them the cake. It was also only 113 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: two teared and not enough for everyone. Update. My grandmother 114 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: texted this to my sister last night. I left shortly 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: after you after a different cousin dragged me out on 116 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: the dance floor for a few minutes. Honestly, that loud 117 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: music hurts my ears and it's impossible to carry on 118 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: a conversation. However, the younger crowd loved it, and that's 119 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: all that matters. You look stunning. The wedding was way 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: over budget, so Aunt redacted had to tighten up on 121 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: a number of items, dessert being one of them. She 122 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: made all of those desserts a there's note besides the 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: cake yours was another. Instead of hiring a florist for 124 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 2: ten k, she spent about one thousand dollars at Trader 125 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: Joe's and then a friend came to the house and 126 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: made the arrangements with help from others. All the signs 127 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: were designed and made by her. I'm sorry about the 128 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: meal situation. I'm sure when the caterine contract was signed, 129 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: it was assumed Dad would be with you. Why is 130 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: the grandma sending you this, I don't know. 131 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: It's just excusing, like excuses, just excusing the behavior of 132 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 3: the bride and the aunt. 133 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: I don't need it. 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: I know, I know what happened, I know how you 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: treated me like cool. 136 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: Some fun points our dad was apparently at a different table, 137 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: so he wouldn't have been able to help her anyway. 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: I just wanted to isolate her. 139 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: It's so strange. They like didn't even accommodate to have 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: her there at all. 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like didn't get her boyfriend, almost didn't let her 142 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: bring an aid, didn't give her food or a seat 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: at the table. Yeah, They're like, she's already would giving ada. 144 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: And then was like, well, your dad can take care 145 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: of you, even though he's across the way at table 146 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: six when you're at table twenty three. I also used 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: to work for the catering company they use during college 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: and know that they always have extra meals ready just 149 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: in case. Additionally, my sister asked them months in advance, 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: long before the final count was due, that she would 151 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: be allowed to bring an aid. 152 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Uh. 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: My final thought is that I would be cutting off 154 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: this out of the family, and I'll be telling everyone 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: I know that this wedding sucked. 156 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: I like Scilla's comment it costs zero dollars to be considerate. 157 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they really could have just been nice, and they 158 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: could have even said, hey, like we might need you 159 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: to pay a little bit more if your aid is coming, 160 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: or literally anything else, any other things than just. 161 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: You don't get a seat. We hate you. Update number two. 162 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I asked my sister if anyone else reached out to her, 163 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: including our dad, who has always made excuses for first family. 164 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: And it's a big negative, Opie says, any more fun 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: drama today, sister, Nope, OP boring sister totally. Op want 166 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: me to start something? Ah? No, and the that's that's yep, 167 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: that's it. That's there we go. 168 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: It seems like the sister was like, you know, I 169 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: don't even care. I'm just here, just here. Do you 170 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: get married? That's aul. 171 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, it's I don't understand why that 172 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: even happened and what was behind the motives. 173 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: But uh, these people horrible people. All I know is 174 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: why OP doesn't like them. 175 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, makes for a very good reason. But that's the 176 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: end ofnet story. And we got another one in Camorana. 177 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: My mother saved her brothers from financial ruin. Now they're 178 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: stealing from her. 179 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: Why why are you doing that? 180 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: I Female twenty eight was born and raised in the USA, 181 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: and my mother, female sixties, is from a small European country. 182 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: She is one of eight six blains and the only 183 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: one to immigrate to the USA. 184 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: She's from Vatican City. 185 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: My parents, through hard work, built a very successful life 186 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: by any standard, despite inheriting nothing from their parents. My 187 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: whole immediate family spent a lot of time traveling back 188 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: and forth from the USA to my mom's home country 189 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, but now it is mostly 190 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: just me and my mom who traveled there. This tale 191 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: begins over twenty five to thirty years ago when one 192 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: of my mother's brothers, let's call him Jonathan Mail sixty ish, 193 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: was struggling financially. My mom offered Jonathan a very low 194 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: interest loan to help him. There's a thing about bride 195 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: in her home country that prevents them from accepting gifts 196 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: of that nature, and it was a large amount of money. 197 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: Think like two hundred thousand dollars. 198 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm going to Monaco. 199 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: Yikes. 200 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from content Flight sixty three 201 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: eighty six, And if you want to submit your own stories, 202 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: go to the art slash showcase story times separate it. 203 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: Where this was actually submitting. 204 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: I'm Savannah, I'm Keon, I'm Carly, and we are here 205 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: to talk about some good things, maybe some bad things. 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: Give a little bit of advice. 207 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: Maybe make you laugh, I don't know, maybe make you cry. 208 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: It's true, we can also do that. But the thing is, 209 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: I will say, we only know what we know. We 210 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: don't know what you know. But you know how we 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: do know is if you go and type what you 212 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: know down in the comments, then we'll know you know 213 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: you know bah Asopie says. Fast forward to just over 214 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: twenty years ago, when my grandfather passed away and his 215 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: property was inherited by the various siblings. Oh yeah, the 216 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: youngest son male fifties, who we will call Row, inherited 217 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: half of the family farm and Jonathan inherited the other half. 218 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Shortly after, Jonathan went through a messy divorce and as 219 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: part of the settlement, had to give his ex wife 220 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: a house to raise their son. 221 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: In what a world, Ben, It's like not I don't 222 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: need alimony, I don't need child support, I need a house. 223 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: He was not in a financial position to purchase a 224 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: house at the time, and so was considering selling the 225 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: family farm in order to keep the farm in the family. 226 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: My parents purchased the house and land from Jonathan so 227 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: my grandmother could remain living in the house for ease 228 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: we will call the purchase price two hundred and fifty 229 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. This sale included one hundred and fifty thousand 230 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: dollars cash and the forgiveness of the remaining one hundred 231 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: thousand dollars on the loan mentioned before. Over the following 232 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: ten years, my family completed vast renovations on the house, 233 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: including replacing the roof, adding an extension for a modern bathroom, 234 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: overhauling the yard, renovating the kitchen, and redoing all the 235 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: flooring and painting. Sadly, my grandmother passed away during this time, 236 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: so we rented the house out to a local family. 237 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: We jump again to two years ago. Jonathan is in 238 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: a much better financial situation and is nearing retirement. He 239 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: wants to retire to the country and fix his sights 240 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: on the family farm, which he wants to buy back. 241 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: He offers two hundred fifty thousand dollars to my parents 242 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: for it. In the area this house is located, derelict 243 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: houses of the same size and acreage are listed for 244 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: nearly three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, So in summary, 245 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: he offered the same amount that my parents bought it 246 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: from him ten years earlier, before the renovations were completed. 247 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: My parents countered with perhaps meeting in the middle between 248 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: the two hundred and fifty thousand and the nearly four 249 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars that the house was currently worth. Jonathan declined, 250 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: stating that he had only the two hundred fifty thousand 251 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: dollars to offer, and that we should sell it to 252 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: him for that amount so it can be brought back 253 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: to the family. 254 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: Hey, buddy, we did a bunch of renovations that cost 255 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: more than what was the original price. The values skyrocketed. 256 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Will cut you a deal. We're not taking that two 257 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: hundred fifty ky. Sorry, make it make sense. 258 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Ignoring the obvious insult, my mother countered she would sell 259 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: it to him for the two hundred and fifty K 260 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: on the condition that she could carve out an acre 261 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: plot near the road so she could one day build 262 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: a house of her own there. Jonathan was very pushy 263 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: that we'd do the sale quickly. During the process of 264 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: getting the sale agreement drawn up, we learned that a 265 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: huge section of the land had not been registered with 266 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: the government correctly during this sale ten years before, so 267 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: it was technically still in Jonathan's name. His response to 268 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: this was, well, if it's in my name, then that's that. 269 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: This guy's gross. This guy the word is conniving. 270 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: He refused to go through with the sale, stating that 271 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: he wanted all or nothing as he didn't want to 272 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: have neighbors looking in his windows. This will be important later. 273 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: My mother refused to sell as there was no way 274 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: she would sell the whole lot land and house for 275 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty K. Jonathan threw a fit over 276 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: not getting his way and ran to Row, who owns 277 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: the half of the farm which abutes with the house 278 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: farm directly. Roe had been watching over the house and 279 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: keeping the yard nice while we were away. Jonathan convinced 280 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: Roe to tell my mother that he would no longer 281 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: be able to take care of the house if we 282 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: refused to sell it to Jonathan. Things turned nasty during 283 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: this conversation and it ended with my mother crying, but 284 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: she stood her ground. How dare you make your mom cry? 285 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: You little? 286 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's again weasel, conniving and she wheels 287 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: are cute, but you know what I mean. This guy 288 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: doesn't care. He'll do anything he needs to do to 289 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: get what he wants. 290 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: We hired someone to take care of the yard while 291 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: we were away. We also hired a lawyer to get 292 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: the land put officially into our name, as at this 293 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: point it seemed as though Jonathan was going to try 294 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: to take it instead of buying it. Roe and Jonathan 295 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: have refused to speak face to face with my mother 296 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: since then. A trailer home appeared on Roe's side of 297 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: the fence. Basically, we learned that Jonathan is living there, 298 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: not full time, but sometimes. It is about one hundred 299 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: feet from the farmhouse. The back windows look almost directly 300 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: into the front windows of the farmhouse. Refer back to 301 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: when this man said he didn't want neighbors looking in 302 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: his windows. We finally got the land officially into our 303 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: name after no small hassole. Eight months ago. My mother, 304 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: my fiance, and I traveled back and brought with us 305 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: a CCTV system my father wanted to install at the house. 306 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: The first morning we woke up, we looked out the 307 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: front windows to see a whole herd of cows out 308 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: on our fields. My mother immediately messaged Row, inquiring what 309 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: his cattle were doing on our land. She stated that 310 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: he was to remove them immediately as it was trespassing, 311 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: but that she was willing to discuss allowing him to 312 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: lease the land and if he is interested. Roe gave 313 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: no reply. 314 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. This is how this is, This 315 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: is how we fight. Oh no, we're gonna see who 316 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: pushes the line more. And we're starting off with You 317 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: think they would start off small, but they're starting off 318 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: really big with the cows. It's like usually like the 319 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: third option they do or the third thing they do. 320 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: We're starting off big here, all right. What's the saying? 321 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: Is like singing till the cows come home? Or something? 322 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: Is that? 323 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: It? 324 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: Is it singing something til the cows come home? 325 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: Moving till the cows come home. 326 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: After my fiance returned to the States due to work, 327 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: Roe's wife reached out to my mother via text, stating 328 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: that for the mental health of Row, all future communications 329 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: would go through her, and also requesting to lease the lamb. 330 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh we're playing telephone now. You mean the person, the 331 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: person who's trying to do psychological and I guess in 332 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: this case cow warfare. Oh, he's just taking a toll 333 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: on him. Wow. 334 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: All right. She insisted on a legal lease for ten 335 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: years in an attempt to mend bridges. My mother had 336 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: a lawyer draw up a lead which clearly stated what 337 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: the land was to be used for farmland and nothing else. 338 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: After the lease was drawn up, Roe refused to sign it, 339 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: and he also refuses to communicate. So what do we 340 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: do here? 341 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: We get more cows put on his side of the 342 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: fence and we go ha ha, I thought with that 343 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: it was so annoying. 344 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: We were not able to get the CCTV cameras installed 345 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: while we were there, so my mother arranged a fly 346 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: back four months later. There are strict rules about CCTV 347 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: in this country about what you are and are not 348 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: allowed to record. We followed the rules exactly, blacking out 349 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: anything on the other side of the property line and 350 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: making sure the only things in frame were on our property. 351 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: Directly after my mom returned, but before the cameras were installed, 352 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Roe reached out, interested in perhaps least seeing the land again. 353 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: My mom agreed, thinking that they were finally on the 354 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: path to reconciliation. However, a few days later, after the 355 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: cameras went up, they sent her a message which contained 356 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: very little except the rules about CCTV cameras. It was 357 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: becoming increasingly clear from the wording of some of the 358 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: messages coming from Row that Jonathan was behind them. My 359 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: mother invited Roe over to the house to see the 360 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: cameras on the monitors and make sure that nothing besides 361 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: our own land was on them. Row decline to come 362 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: look at the cameras. He also declined to lease the land. 363 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: What do you want? 364 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: You know what? You should just row? Row row your 365 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: boat gently down the stream. 366 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: You know what? Row, go go row, say ya go. 367 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: At this point I would just be like, Okay, the 368 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: land's out yours anymore. We're done. You keep your side, 369 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: We keep our side, and that's that. You're not get anything. 370 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: You're not getting anything else out of us. This is insane. 371 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: I would also get where are the lawyers? Can we 372 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: draw this? Can we drop the lawyers? I'm tired of 373 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: dealing with these hooligans. 374 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Another message was sent indicating that we should not contact 375 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: Road due to his mental health. That was never actually explained, 376 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: like what what is his mental health? He just doesn't 377 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: feel like communicating now? So now his mental health is declined? 378 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: Right, eh? I want to do it? 379 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: What mental health issue do you have that we now 380 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: have to go through your wife in order to make 381 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: decisions for you. Things have remained steadist quo. Since then, 382 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: Jonathan's trailer house is perched right on the property line, 383 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: and he's put up a huge privacy fence that prevents 384 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: anyone from seeing the trailer from the road but does 385 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: little to stop the looking in each other's windows issue. 386 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: He's also plopped the ugliest tank right up on the 387 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: fence as close to the property line as he can get. 388 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: Two things have changed in the last few days to 389 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: prompt my post. First, we learned that the trailer house 390 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: is one hundred percent illegal. They did not get permission 391 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: from the government to place it there, and the land 392 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: is not properly zoned for US AID medential space. The 393 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: government here is very serious about their permission to build things. 394 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: Even so, my mother was adamant about not reporting them 395 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: because they are family. 396 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: And families making your mental state go insane and doing 397 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: petty things like what they're doing at this point, that's 398 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: not family. Those are enemies because people don't care, they're 399 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: playing mind games. Family wouldn't do that. I would literally say, hey, 400 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: you know that's illegal, right and if you don't move it, 401 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell the government. Don't care if you want to. 402 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: Your actions have consequences. You're a grown adult. 403 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: That's true. You could just like threaten them, not actually 404 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: do it, but be like, hey, you know that's illegal, 405 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: Like I know you're coming. You know about us saying 406 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: the sus TV isn't legal, blahlah blah, But actually we 407 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: did everything by the book. You did not, so you 408 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: would actually be charged in this situation. Secondly, Roe's wife 409 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: sent a text message to my mother today, completely unprompted. 410 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: The gist of it was, we know you are back 411 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: in town. We don't want to see you. Don't stop by. 412 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: We have to protect ourselves and secure our mental health. 413 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: Don't contact us again. I mean, what do you even 414 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: do in this situation? Would you report them or no? 415 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously i'd report them, but Mom is trying to 416 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: be very motherly in what they're What they're doing here 417 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: is absurd. I'd be like, Mom, stop it. Why are 418 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: we letting let them do this? They should have this 419 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: should have never happened in the first place. This is 420 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: really annoying. It's going to keep going if you keep 421 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: letting them not have any consequences to their actions, Like 422 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: show them who's in charge, Like they have their land, 423 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: but they're not getting decide this, Let them stop. Please, 424 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: this is like it's such a headache for everyone. 425 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I really don't even know what you 426 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: want at this point. Do you want the land, you 427 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: don't want the land. You want to lease thelmand, you 428 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: don't want to lease the land. You want the house, 429 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: you don't want the house. 430 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: They're playing mental games? 431 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: What do you want? 432 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you do have mental health issues, because I 433 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: have no idea what you're trying to communicate to me. 434 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: So now I have three options as I see it. 435 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: One do nothing worst option Two give them the invitations 436 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 2: to my wedding like I was planning to in an 437 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: attempt to mend bridges. Or three report them to the 438 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: government for an illegal house. If it were anyone but 439 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: family treating my mother in such a way, I wouldn't hesitate. 440 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: But they are technically family, so I don't know that. 441 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: Third options seem pretty like out of all the three 442 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: options seem pretty reasonable. I mean, you could try number two, 443 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna listen to reason. I say, 444 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: if it's what they want, I. 445 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Know that it's your family, But if they're treating you 446 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: like this and making everyone like run like a chicken, 447 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: with this head cut off, like, you know, is it 448 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: really worth it or should you just I don't know, 449 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: cut contact and be done with it? 450 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: Uh OPI the easiest option is three. I mean, this 451 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: is so annoying. Does I get the family thing? But 452 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 1: family would it wouldn't treat you like this to start with, so, 453 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: or treat you guys, or treat your mother, treat their 454 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: own mother like this. It's crazy. 455 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: Personally, I am not a fan of the first option. 456 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: It feels very passive. The second option I think might 457 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: be morally the best, as I can see how the 458 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: rift between my mom and her brothers affects her. She's 459 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: genuinely upset about the whole situation, but also won't let 460 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: them take advantage of her. I am partial to option 461 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: number three, as I believe strongly in the f around 462 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: and find out and play stupid games when stupid prize 463 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: is mentality, But it also might make me an a hole, 464 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: so I hesitate. 465 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, they're they're the ones being a holes. Unfortunately, 466 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: you're not doing You're doing the legal thing. They're doing 467 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: something illegal. This isn't this is very dumb. At this point, 468 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: you shouldn't like I would tell them I would warn them. 469 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, if you don't cut the crap, you're 470 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna be facing some serious problems. And they're like, uh huh, 471 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: try it, then do it. These guys are so annoying 472 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: this it's insane. And that's the end of this story. 473 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: We're going on to the next one. Hey, it's keon 474 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: the Silly's goose. We're going to get back to the stories. 475 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. My 476 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: sister had a meltdown at the wedding. She swore we 477 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: were all talking about her. 478 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: Girl, don't you be swearing. It's a wedding. 479 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: Hello, female thirty here. I just wanted to tell a story. 480 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: I honestly do not believe I'm in the wrong, but 481 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: I still just wanted to tell it. So I have 482 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: three sisters, one older than me and two younger, so 483 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: total of four. We have a total of four here, 484 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: good math, whew. Older sis Jennifer is thirty four, I'm thirty. 485 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: Sis after me, Mary is twenty eight, and the youngest 486 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: is Elizabeth, who is twenty six. Some backstory Jennifer. We 487 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: do not know if she's bipolar or schizophrenic because she's 488 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: never been diagnosed, but she acts like it, and it's 489 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: been like this for all of our lives. People tiptoeing 490 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: around her, trying not to say the wrong thing to 491 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: set her off. About a year, Jennifer didn't like the 492 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: apartment she lived in, so she wanted to move out. 493 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: She realized she had an eviction on her record from 494 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: a previous apartment, so she asked my two younger sisters 495 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: and myself and my mother, we all bought a house 496 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: together three years ago, if she could move in with us. So, 497 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: of course, her being our sister and my mother's child, 498 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna let her and our nephew come 499 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: with us. We're family, we help each other. And by 500 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from user Frosty Horror thirty two 501 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: sixty three. And if you want submit your own stories, 502 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: go to the r slash okay story time subreddit just 503 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: where this story is from. It's one of our own. Woo, 504 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: and we're reading it. Let us know if you're here 505 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: or were reading your story. But I'm key On, I'm Savannah, 506 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. Goofley, 507 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: look at Savannah and I we're Goofy goobers, and I'm 508 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: just not apparently you're a goober. You're stinky goober, not goofy. 509 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: We don't know everything, guys, We only know what we'd do. 510 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: So let us know what you do in the comments 511 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: down below, pretty please. So continuing back, prior to her 512 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: moving in, I already warned my sisters if Jennifer comes here, 513 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to watch her because she tends to 514 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: act bi polar and moody for no reason and then 515 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: just goes back to normal like nothing's ever happened. But 516 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: we still said come on in. Skip to Wednesday. Me 517 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: and Mary are sitting at the table enjoying our night. 518 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Jennifer starts acting moody and goes into the room. We 519 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: don't pay her no mind. Her son, five years old 520 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: and who is autistic, comes out of the room, runs 521 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: up the stairs, waves at us, starts laughing, and runs away. 522 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: Mary is like, was that the baby? And I was like, yes, 523 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: but he ran away. I don't know about you or 524 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's kind of creepy. 525 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: I want to know what time this was, Like, was 526 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: this baby supposed to be asleep or what? 527 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: Like? He isid He and then runs away. 528 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: I feel like, where are you going? 529 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: That's creepy to me. Okay. Jennifer, sitting in the room, 530 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: pops her head out and says, yeah, he came to 531 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: check up on you guys because he knows y'all was 532 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: talking about us. Me and Mary look at each other like, 533 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: what the f is she talking about. She takes her son, 534 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: pulls him in the room, and closes the door. We 535 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: don't see her for the rest of the night. So 536 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: skip to Saturday. My mother was invited to a family 537 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: friend's wedding, and of course we're invited to The theme 538 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: was pink and purple. We're all taking pictures. We take 539 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: two separate cars. Jennifer and my mother get it in 540 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: the same car and leave me, Mary, Elizabeth, and Elizabeth's boyfriend. 541 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: We get in my other sister's car and go another 542 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: way because we got to pick up Mary's girlfriend. We 543 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: get to the wedding. My mom and Jennifer went for 544 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: the actual wedding. The rest of us showed up for 545 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: the reception. Everything is beautiful. Everybody's dancing and they're doing 546 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: raffle tickets, food is being served, you know, normal wedding stuff. 547 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: Skip a couple hours we're all kind of just chilling 548 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: at the table. I tell the whole table I'm about 549 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: to step outside to the car for a minute. We 550 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't all leave together because it'll look like some type 551 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: of way if a whole table just disappears. Everyone agrees, 552 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: except for my mom. She said she's gonna come with 553 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: me because she invited another friend from work here. So 554 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: we get outside, we meet my mom's friend. My mom 555 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: tells us she's going to send my sisters back, so 556 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: we all hang out for a minute. So we all 557 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: head back into the party, but before we fully go in, 558 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Elizabeth's boyfriend says he has to use the bathroom. Mary says, 559 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: I have to use the bathroom too, So I'm there, like, 560 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: let's just all go to the bathroom first and then 561 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: we'll all go back and then dance. Since Elizabeth walked 562 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: in the bathroom first, she saw Jennifer already in the 563 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: bathroom stall with her son using the bathroom, so she says, hey, girl, 564 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: look at you up in here. Jennifer looks at us 565 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: through the bathroom stall with an attitude. I come out 566 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: of the stall. That's when Jennifer stepped in front of 567 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: me and says were you talking about California? And I'm 568 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: so confused because I'm like, what are you talking about? 569 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: And she's like, I heard you talking about me going 570 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: to California. Side note, she's a chef and she went 571 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: a competition to go cook in California. We knew about 572 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: this day's prior, no one ever talked about it at 573 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: the wedding. I say, uh, what are you talking about. 574 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: She looks at me with a full on attitude and says, 575 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: I heard you talking crap about me going to California. 576 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: I say, I don't even know what you're talking about. 577 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: I never said anything. I walk around her and go 578 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: wash my hands in my mind. The conversation is over. 579 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: Elizabeth comes to me and was like, is she okay? 580 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: Elizabeth says, no, nobody was talking about that. So we 581 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: head back into the wedding party. We walk in the party, 582 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: Elizabeth and her boyfriend and I go back to the table. 583 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: The whole family's at the table. My mother's friend ends 584 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: up sitting next to me the only pictures of her 585 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: new baby grandchild on her phone. When my younger sisters 586 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: and I and their partners came back to the party, 587 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: Jennifer was mugging me from the time I walked in 588 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: until I sat down at the table. Jennifer walks all 589 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: the way from the dance floor and come sits at 590 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: the table right across from me and is just staring 591 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: at me. From the corner of my eyes, I can 592 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: see Jennifer literally just staring. Oh freak, she's mugging me, 593 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: not saying anything. The rest of the family comes back 594 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: to the table. I feel Jennifer's eyes on me. So 595 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: this time I looked at her and was like, are 596 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: you staring at me? She flat out says yes with 597 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: a smart but attitude and a roll of her neck. 598 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: Ew Yes, yes, aos. 599 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: So I say, what is the problem? Are you bipolar? 600 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: That probably wasn't the best thing to say. 601 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that was the best thing to say either. 602 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: Well, what are you bipolar? Because you're staring at me? 603 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what's the problem California. She says, Well, 604 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: you keep talking crap about me. I stand up and say, okay, 605 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: how about I meet you back at the house since 606 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: you got a problem. She stands up too with this, 607 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: we can go outside. I said, We're at a wedding. 608 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that here. I get up, and I 609 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: start walking towards the bride and her family so I 610 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: can see my goodbyes. I guess at this point, Jennifer 611 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: is at the backyard yelling because I walked away. So 612 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: my mom and my other sisters are trying to get 613 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: her to go outside because she's so dramatic. So I 614 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: walk up to the bride. I'm telling her, hey, I'm 615 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: about to leave, and I wanted to take pictures with 616 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: the wedding party and say goodbye to everybody, so that's 617 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: what I do. I didn't even notice Elizabeth was following me. 618 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: She takes a picture for me while I'm posing with 619 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: the bride and her daughter. We say our goodbyes and 620 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: we walk back out of the car. Me and Elizabeth 621 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: are walking to the car and she's like, I think 622 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: she's losing her crap. We were never talking about her. 623 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: So we get in the car. I drive us to 624 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: the front of the hotel. I see my sister Jennifer 625 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: walking barefooted crying. Mary's literally behind her, and my mom 626 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: is just in the middle trying to calm both of 627 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: them down. Elizabeth's boyfriend is there too, and Elizabeth jumps 628 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: out of the car to see what's going on? I 629 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: tell her I'm not getting out of the car. I'm 630 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: not about to embarrass myself at this wedding. So once 631 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: everybody cools down after like ten minutes, I tell Mary, 632 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: can you just get in the car. Once Mary calms down, me, 633 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: her and Elizabeth's boyfriend, we all get in the car 634 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: and pull off. Elizabeth stays behind with my mom is 635 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: trying to explain to Jennifer that nobody was talking about her. 636 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Maybe she wants to go get checked because Elizabeth is 637 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: a nurse. I tell Jennifer meet me at the house. 638 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: We go drop Mary's girlfriend off, and now it's just 639 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: the three of us in the car. We are still 640 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: trying to go back over what the heck just happened. 641 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: We all come up with the same explanation. We don't 642 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: know why she's acting like this. This crap is just random. 643 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: So we get back to the house and I call 644 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: this to come outside and talk with us. Long story short, 645 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: She tells us Jennifer was saying that we were all 646 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: whispering about her at the wedding, which again was never true, 647 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: being that I was the one cheering her on and 648 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: taking pictures for her. So we all get out of 649 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: the car, and now we're walking up to the house. 650 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: As soon as we walk in, I see Jennifer sitting 651 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: on the couch. She had her head down but not 652 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: wanting to acknowledge me. So I'm walking in. I head 653 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: straight down the stairs and my mom is like, are 654 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: you okay? And I was like, no, I'm still upset. 655 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: I look right at Jennifer and told her she better 656 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: hope I go in this room and calm down. I'm 657 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: in my room for a while, letting things settle. Eventually, 658 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Jennifer opens the door of the room she's in upstairs 659 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: and says, you're a fat witch. That's why you never 660 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: left the nest. That's why you've never had your own place. 661 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: You're still living at home? 662 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 2: So are you? 663 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: You're literally living here? 664 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Where are you comes? Yeah, I'm sorry. Where 665 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: are you living right now? 666 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: You literally went and moved out and got even and 667 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: then had to come back home. 668 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: Is that? Do you think you were better than me? 669 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's put Yeah, you know, let's compare. That's fair, 670 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So I just start going in, like, which 671 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: didn't you get evicted twice from your old place because 672 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: of your mouth and now from this place because of 673 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: your effing mouth with me. Yeah, that really set her off. 674 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, you want to talk about me tonight? You 675 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: were literally dressed like a little house on the prairie 676 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: and I was still cheering you on. 677 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 2: This is such a sister fight. 678 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: Sistyistysty. 679 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you look like a little house on the prairie. 680 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: God mine was. See if if it was me and Sinny, 681 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: I'd be like, you literally look like a big toe. 682 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: She'd be like, okay, you get a thump thumppa. Yeah, 683 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: you're like okay, oh and then she and then she'd 684 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: be like, and your banks suck, and I'd be like, 685 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: don't come on my banks. She always says, I want 686 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: to surf on your banks when they don't look good, 687 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 2: because they'll be like over here when I wake up 688 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: and I Facetimer and they're like this. And then she's like, 689 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: I want to surf Savannah's bangs, And I'm like, stop, 690 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: you're hurting me. 691 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Out of everybody at the wedding, the person who is 692 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: your biggest supporter, you decide to turn on them after 693 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: some time, I'm telling people she has to leave. I 694 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: politely tell them this is my house. She has ten 695 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: minutes to leave, so I'm sitting in my room. She 696 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: ends up coming downstairs into the room she's renting out 697 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: to pack her stuff. So I'm sitting there and I'm 698 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: seeing her pack her stuff and go up the stairs. 699 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: Me being the petty person I am, I walked right 700 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: up the stairs behind her and watched her leave. Everybody's like, girl, 701 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: don't you do nothing? And I'm like, no, I need 702 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: to make sure the trash is being taken out. She 703 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: didn't say, not one word, but now here is the punter. 704 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: She walks all the way to her car. At this point, 705 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm standing in the screen door, so as I'm staying 706 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 1: in the screen door watching her, she's flipping me off, 707 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: calling me all types of fat witches. And I'm like, yeah, 708 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: I'm a fat witch who's gonna sleep in her own 709 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: bed tonight, a fat witch who has never been evicted, 710 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: a fat witch who doesn't have to ask anybody else 711 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: for handouts. 712 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 2: It's sad because she also has a five year old child, 713 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: and she like doesn't I don't know, she doesn't want 714 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: to get help. And that's just if I had a child. 715 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: I feel like that's what. 716 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, what pride do you have left? You know? Yeah, 717 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: if this is all about really like pride and like 718 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: this is insane. Jennifer gets in her car while yelling 719 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: and pulls off. I guess Elizabeth followed her to whatever 720 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: hotel she went to and gave her money because I 721 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: told her I wasn't putting it on crap. You know, 722 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: if you don't want help, don't bite the hand that 723 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: feeds as well, Like we're helping you. You came to 724 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: us for help. I think you need help, but I 725 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: guess what, I'm not giving it to you anymore. 726 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 2: Kim Foyd with the not the ant leaners Staten Island treatment. 727 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: I love Jersey Shore. 728 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: Shut up. 729 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: Where she goes. You could stay get jay Be, or 730 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: you can stay jay Be, or you can stay in 731 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: get jay Be. 732 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 4: And none of them are from New Jersey. 733 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: Wait what they're not from Jersey. 734 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm not from Jersey. 735 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 4: They're from New York. 736 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well not all of them. I know Harry 737 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: Spaghetti Island is Vinnie and Angelina. 738 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them aren't from Staten Island or 739 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: New Jersey. It's like random New York state places. 740 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: They just went to the Jersey Shore. 741 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just brought him to a house. 742 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: It doesn't represent. 743 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: Us, that's all that says. I don't know. Man, sister 744 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: started it, hope he's gonna finish it. And Alexisman here says, 745 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but again, if someone with bipolar or schizophrenia 746 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: who is not medicated, there's no reasoning with them. Just 747 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: let it go before the situation becomes dangerous. See what 748 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm worried about is her kid. 749 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: You know, her kid's watching all of this happen. And 750 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 2: also her kid is also special needs because the kid 751 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 2: is also autistic. 752 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: So like, uh, if yeah, you can, you can tell 753 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: her everything. And if she's the type of person who 754 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: doesn't want to help or can't face the truth, can't 755 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: do much like you guys have been saying. So let's 756 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: go ahead and fish up the story. So now today Monday, 757 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: while we're at work, Jennifer went back to the house 758 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: and moved all her stuff out. My mom is telling 759 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: me she also doesn't care because it's like you're low 760 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: ki a burden. We're trying to help you, yet you're 761 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: getting mad at us. And then there was Mother's Day, 762 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: which was yesterday. I guess she got mad at my 763 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: mom because my mom didn't wish her Happy Mother's Day, 764 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: which is a lie. My mother texted her and called her, 765 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: and I politely told her, our mother is not obligated 766 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: to tell your butt nothing. 767 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 3: Be happy. 768 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: She's even kinder to you than the rest of us. 769 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: We all went out to eat and had a good time, 770 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: and we didn't have that burning of a shadow over us. 771 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. 772 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she just sounds like a nightmare. But it's 773 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 2: also she's not mentally stable, and it's so hard to 774 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: find reason and to find the sanity when someone is 775 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: not mentally stable. And okay, cause they they don't listen 776 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: to reason, they don't know what reason is, and so 777 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 2: you can just it's literally you're yelling at a wall 778 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: right now, You're yelling at a brick wall. And nothing's 779 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 2: going to change. They're going to keep doing their things. 780 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: It's just they have to be the ones to want 781 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 2: to make, you know, the change in their lives. 782 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: They also just can't, like especially with Jennifer, it seems 783 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: like she can never be like, no, you guys are right, 784 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm wrong, that's my fault. I'm sorry, Like I wasn't. 785 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: I was like I thought I heard something. It was like, no, 786 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: I heard it, and that I'm gonna take my I'm 787 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 1: gonna stick with my side, and I'm got to get 788 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: like it's all you guys are out to get me 789 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: vice versa. I'm all out to at you and I'm 790 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: not like we're not the same team. I'm just it's 791 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: sad to hear and sad to see. But I mean, 792 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: you can only lay out the olive branch or you know, 793 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: lay out give out your help as much as you can. 794 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: But if they don't want it, unfortunately, that's how it's 795 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna be. 796 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: It stings because like I I we we all thought 797 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: like at one point like that my older sister was 798 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: maybe like bipolar something in or had something, because like 799 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: she'll get into these like like you piss her off, 800 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: it's like you're done, everyone's done. You cannot cross her 801 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: like and she goes for the throat every time like 802 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: nothing you Like, it's hard because like we are such 803 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: like a joking family. We always joke, but like we 804 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: can't joke with her because she'll take it so far 805 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: and it's like oh my god, and so like we 806 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 2: just have to be like more careful, like with her, 807 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: but I don't know. I don't know she's I don't 808 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: think she's on anything, truthfully. 809 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 3: But she's doing well. 810 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: Though it's not like she's like absolutely insane, like this 811 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: woman like she knows right from Wang, she white from Wang. 812 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 3: She's she's cool. 813 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: She's my sister's great. It's just I always I just 814 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 2: noticed as she got older, like she kind of has 815 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: that like tendency. But I don't know. She seems like 816 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: she's doing well. Banaday story. 817 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 3: My son introduced me to his new girlfriend and her 818 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: baby might be mine. 819 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: WHOA, What a. 820 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 3: Big reveal there is. There was no cheating involved whatsoever. 821 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 3: I forty five male, would never do that to my 822 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 3: own son, twenty eight male. He's only been seeing his 823 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 3: new girlfriend, thirty five female for about four months from 824 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 3: what he's told me. But she and I dated two 825 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 3: years ago, but it ended because I was going to 826 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 3: be traveling for work for months and we just lost contact. 827 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from recently gave away and 828 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 3: if you want to smit your own stories, go to 829 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 3: the r slash Okay story time. I'm Sophia, I'm Savannah, 830 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm ke On, and we're here to give good of 831 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: Ice scoofy, But we don't have all the answers. We 832 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: alena what we'd do, So let us know what you 833 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 3: would do. In the comments, and Opie says she has 834 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: a one and a half year old son. That is 835 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: very likely my child. My son told me the father 836 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: isn't involved, but hasn't given him any other details other 837 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 3: than it's just her raising the kid. 838 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, how has this never come up for her? 839 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: For him? 840 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 841 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: For you? 842 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 843 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? 844 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 3: Did you guys like when Ope dated this girl? 845 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: Did you guys not like meet the family or anything? 846 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 3: Or was it never talked about? No, it showed apparently not. 847 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: How small is your town? 848 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 849 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh. 850 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 3: I was the one to connect the dots as soon 851 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 3: as I realized it was her. You can't imagine how 852 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 3: unbelievably awkward the first time meeting was. Thankfully it was 853 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 3: around other family members, but she was just as freaked 854 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 3: out as I was. This can't be a secret, though. 855 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: If this is my child, I need to know, And 856 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 3: as much as it pains me to put my son 857 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: in this messed up position, he needs to know too. 858 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: He's coming over later on so we could talk. I'm 859 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 3: beyond nervous. I really don't even know where to start 860 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: explaining something like this, Jim Opie in the comments, my 861 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 3: son told me they met through a dating app and 862 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 3: talked for a couple of weeks before they met up 863 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 3: in person. I know some people here are speculating that 864 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 3: she knew he was my son, but that's not it. 865 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 3: None of us knew about this whole connection until now. 866 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: We don't live in a small community. She's never noticed 867 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: we were related because we have the most common last name, 868 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 3: as common as smith. 869 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm again backtracking a little bit here. Did Opie say 870 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: they dated for two years? 871 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: No? 872 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 3: Two years ago? 873 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: Oh? 874 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so sign and girlfriend have been dating for four months. 875 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 3: Ope and girlfriend dated two years ago. 876 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: But we don't know how long. Okay, okay, okay. 877 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: They weren't serious yet, and she had a rule about 878 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 3: introducing any potential boyfriends until they've been together at least 879 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 3: a year. Oh pair to the kid, Oh oh oh 880 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 3: oh yeah, okay. I don't know anyone who has kids 881 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 3: introducing their partners after only casually dating four months. My 882 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: ex and I have the same rule about partners when 883 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 3: we broke up and common one. Hopefully he takes the 884 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: news as you intended it, Opie says, I don't expect 885 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: him to react rationally. It's such a messed up curveball 886 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 3: to throw right at him. But I hope eventually he's 887 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: able to understand this happened before they got together and 888 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 3: could process the news in a healthy manner. I mean, truly, 889 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 3: it's no one's faults, no cheating went on. 890 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: It's just a really, really, really small world. Yeah. 891 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: The thing I want to know is like, is this 892 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 3: your kid, because now you have two kids. 893 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: And if that is the case, I think don't want 894 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: to be the bearer of bad news. 895 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 3: But your son might be dating his half no brother's mom. 896 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: He's usually very level headed, but this is a huge 897 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 3: surprise none of us were prepared for. I'd understand if 898 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: his initial reaction isn't exactly the most positive good dad though, 899 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 3: I mean, weird situation, but like overall, very understanding father. 900 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 3: Common two. I would maybe try and confirm with a 901 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 3: girl alone for then take it from there. Opie says. 902 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 3: We've talked briefly about this after I made the connection. 903 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 3: She says he's mine, but according to her, she was 904 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 3: worried I might not want to be involved since I 905 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 3: was gone for work for who knows how long, so 906 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 3: we have confirmation this is Opie's son. 907 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,479 Speaker 1: So she said, I was worried about you going for work, 908 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: so I didn't the next best thing. I got your son. 909 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: I have your son, but I also got your son. 910 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: I thought you would be away for like a couple months, 911 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 3: so I didn't tell you for two years. 912 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: Oh boy, this is messy. 913 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I would want to know, yes, immediately, 914 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 3: that's not an excuse to keep this information from me. 915 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 3: But it's done now. I'd still like to get a 916 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: paternity test done just to be absolutely sure the math 917 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 3: ads up. But she could have also been seeing other people, 918 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 3: who knows. But that's why I want the test. So 919 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: there's zero doubt. You are taking this really well and 920 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 3: you're doing all the right steps. So props to EPI. 921 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 3: Coming three says this is a terrible situation to be 922 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 3: in and could have been prevented had she simply been 923 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 3: off honest and told you about the pregnancy. Oh Pie says, 924 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 3: I wish she told me from the very beginning. All 925 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 3: of this could have been avoided. And if her son 926 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 3: is in fact mine, then I could have been there 927 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 3: for him. His first year of life. Yes, the fact 928 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 3: that I was on the road definitely would have made 929 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 3: things very complicated, but I know I'd have figured out 930 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: some way to be there, even if it meant coming 931 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 3: back completely. Oh p again in the comments, all the 932 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 3: people that were telling me to wait and find out 933 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 3: if the boy's mind fail to understand. It isn't only 934 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 3: about that. It's also about the fact that she and 935 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 3: I dated for a while. Yet you have to tell 936 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 3: your son as a pete. 937 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not cool. 938 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: Which is not just about the baby? 939 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 2: Which one? 940 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: Which one? 941 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: Both of them? The one is two, all of him, 942 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 3: All of your sons, find them all. 943 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: Every son needs to know. 944 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 3: Rather than have it come out in the future after 945 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 3: he's invested years into the relationship and have him feel 946 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 3: lied to, I'd rather he go on knowing all the 947 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 3: facts so he can make his own choices. Yeah, they've 948 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 3: only been going out for four months. Let's nip this 949 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 3: in the bud and just let everyone know all the 950 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: facts they You gotta let it air out. 951 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 1: Now. 952 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 3: You gotta edit to update on this since many of 953 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 3: you have asked, Yes, my son knows everything now? Nice? 954 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 3: Oh good, everything's proceeding super smoothly. 955 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: How did he react? How did everyone react? I should 956 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: want to know? He went, oh Dad, oh. 957 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 3: Dad, you're always doing stuff like this. Oh Dad, good one. 958 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 3: You said, you're joking right, You're joking right. The conversation 959 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 3: was not easy at all. My son was very confused 960 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: and upset, as would anyone be. Honestly, I expected him 961 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 3: to yell at me, but the shock was too much 962 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 3: for him to get a strong reaction. He was still 963 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 3: very serious. I made sure he knew I'd understand if 964 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 3: this is too much for him. So whatever he needs 965 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 3: from me, I will try to do. As of right now, 966 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 3: he just needs some space. After our talk last night, 967 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 3: he messaged me about going over to her place so 968 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 3: we could hear this from her too. As far as 969 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 3: I know, they have had their own talk, but I'm 970 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 3: not sure about where they stand now. He didn't talk 971 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 3: to me all day until he sent me a message 972 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 3: earlier telling me he loves me, but he's gonna need 973 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 3: some time to himself, which I completely understand. It's not 974 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 3: gonna be something he'll easily get over. As far as paternity, well, 975 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: we still don't know anything about that. I have communicated 976 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: with her about finding a place where we can get 977 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 3: this test done and out of the way, so we'll 978 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 3: be doing that this week. It can't wait any longer 979 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 3: otherwise it's just gonna drive me crazy. And we've got 980 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 3: an update. Oh well, to be the one as well 981 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 3: as it could have gone. 982 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: Literally, you took the words right out of my mouth. 983 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 1: I think is the best case scenario. I think there's 984 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: no real bad guys here. No one really lied. This 985 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: is just like one of those. It's a small world. 986 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 3: It just so happened to end up like this. It 987 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: is how it is. It is what it is, how 988 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 3: it is where it is. 989 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: It's a small world, after all. 990 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 3: It really is a little too small. So yes, if 991 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 3: you saw the update, I accluted my son does now 992 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 3: know everything. He needed a little time to himself, and 993 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 3: they did decide in the end to mutually break up. 994 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 3: They both knew it wasn't worth complicating things more down 995 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 3: the line when they haven't been together that long. My 996 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 3: son did admit to me he was a little sad 997 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: about the relationship, but he's glad I told them before 998 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: his feelings for her grew to love. We didn't talk 999 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 3: much for almost a week because he was having a 1000 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 3: boy's trip with his close friends. Guys, guys, you will 1001 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 3: not believe what happened to me. This is total boy 1002 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,959 Speaker 3: trip talk. 1003 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, I have good news and bad news. Good news, 1004 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: I have a brother. Bad news. 1005 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 3: It was my girlfriend. It was my girlfriend and my 1006 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 3: dad have son on and those are correlated and connected. 1007 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 3: That's horrible. 1008 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: It's way a fun game. 1009 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 3: The good thing is we're talking again normally, which I 1010 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 3: am so grateful for. Seriously, it worried me how much 1011 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 3: this would affect my relationship with him. I'm happy he's 1012 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 3: been so open about his feelings. 1013 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 2: He tells me. 1014 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 3: It's still crazy how all this happened. He's accepted it, though, 1015 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 3: and might try dating again in another few weeks. It's 1016 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 3: not all perfect, but at least we're talking like we 1017 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 3: always do, though, and more than anything, I'm so happy 1018 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 3: he didn't hold what happened against me, since none of 1019 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 3: us knew about this until we had dinner. Now for 1020 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 3: the part I know lots of you wanted to hear about. 1021 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 3: We did the paternity test and the results good firm 1022 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 3: to her son is also mine. Oh you got two sons? Now, 1023 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 3: you got one baby son and one really old a 1024 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 3: son oh, on part of me just had a feeling 1025 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 3: he was anyway, but it didn't hurt to know for sure. 1026 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 3: We've been communicating more and I've taken the time to 1027 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 3: come over to see him almost every day. He's not 1028 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 3: wary of strangers. In fact, he's been pretty friendly, so 1029 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: that's really help with trying to bond with him. 1030 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: He got that from his brother. 1031 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 2: Ah. 1032 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 3: Not my first rodeo as a dad, obviously, but I 1033 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 3: still feel like I'm learning everything all over again after 1034 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 3: so long, and especially after missing so much time with 1035 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 3: him already. I've been able to hold him and play 1036 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 3: with him with his toys, which is a blast. The 1037 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 3: fact that I have another son that I'll get to 1038 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 3: experience many new milestones with always makes me smile. For 1039 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 3: anyone wondering about the ages, I think the girlfriend was 1040 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 3: in the middle of them. 1041 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta agree you. Yeah, I can repeat it. 1042 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: Oh he is forty five, his son is twenty eight, 1043 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 1: and the girlfriend slash everything in between is thirty five. 1044 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was like, Wow, I'm not a crazy 1045 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 3: age gp for either of them. Ah, but we got 1046 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,479 Speaker 3: a little bit left. I'm glad this all worked out 1047 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 3: as it should have. My son knows about his half 1048 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 3: brother now. He told me he'd like to meet him 1049 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 3: at some point in the future when it doesn't feel 1050 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 3: is weird. As I said, he's never met him before 1051 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 3: because they hadn't been dating long enough to introduce him. 1052 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 3: My son thinks it's kind of nice knowing he as 1053 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 3: a brother now again, though, he told me he's going 1054 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 3: to need more time to adjust before he's comfortable with 1055 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 3: officially meeting him, and I understand that completely. So yeah, 1056 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 3: it's been quite a ride so far, you can and 1057 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 3: how busy it's been with a new kiddo to bond 1058 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 3: with and raise. We're currently working with a lawyer to 1059 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 3: get all the legal things set right away. I want 1060 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 3: to make sure I have my rights as a father 1061 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 3: and get my time with my son if she ever 1062 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 3: changes her mind about being compliant and decides to shut 1063 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 3: me out of his life again. That's all I have 1064 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 3: as of right now in terms of an update. So 1065 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 3: I hope this answered some of your questions. And that's 1066 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 3: the end of the story. 1067 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,280 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite Riley's girlfriend. No is here. 1068 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 2: We're going to get back to the stories, but here's 1069 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 2: three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1070 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 3: I found a video on my fiance's phone and it 1071 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 3: ended our engagement. 1072 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: What was the video? 1073 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 3: I thirty five male have been together with my fiance 1074 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 3: twenty nine female. Let's call her Anna for a bit 1075 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 3: over four years and last Christmas I popped the question 1076 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 3: and she happily accepted. Life with her has been a bliss, 1077 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 3: especially after we got engaged. By the way, this comes 1078 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 3: from two to nine U three H two eight are 1079 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,720 Speaker 3: zero two four two And if you want to submit 1080 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 3: your own stories, go to there are sush Okay, Storytime, 1081 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 3: severed It. I'm Sophia, I'm key On, and we're here 1082 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 3: to give good advice. Goofy. But we don't have all 1083 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 3: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let 1084 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 3: us know what you would do in the comments, and 1085 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 3: Opie says, I've had a lot of cheating in my 1086 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 3: past relationships. I'm in therapy because of that and it's 1087 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 3: gotten better. Nevertheless, Anna, meeting up with guy friends is 1088 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 3: an issue with me. Anna knows this. Anna has known 1089 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 3: this from the beginning of our relationship, and she's been 1090 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 3: accommodating it. She has no problem making sure she only 1091 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 3: meets male friends. When one of her female friends is 1092 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 3: around or in a public setting so that I don't 1093 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 3: need to worry. I also promise to work on my 1094 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 3: issues in therapy because she never did anything to not 1095 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 3: deserve my trust, and she said she was happy to 1096 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 3: support me. It has gotten a lot better since Anna 1097 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 3: is straight. I of course never had any issues with 1098 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 3: her meeting female friends, which leads to her friend Natalie 1099 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 3: twenty eight, non binary. Natalie identifies as a non binary woman. 1100 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 3: Anne is a male to female gender adverse person, which 1101 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 3: I did not know until yesterday. From what I understand, 1102 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 3: they have not yet started any kind of transition. It 1103 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: got a long story short. Yesterday Anna was out with 1104 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 3: Natalie for some girls time together, as usual, and when 1105 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 3: she got home at night, she was pretty much wisted. 1106 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 3: I helped her undress and get into bed, and only 1107 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 3: after that I saw a notification pop up on her phone. 1108 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 3: It was from Natalie titled our video. And locked her 1109 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 3: phone and saw an explicit video of Natalie and Anna together, 1110 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 3: and the way they talked, especially about me, was equally 1111 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 3: as devastating as the mere fact that Anna was cheating 1112 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 3: on me. 1113 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh that's not cute at all, Nang. 1114 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 3: Something inside me broke at that instant, Anna is still sleeping, 1115 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 3: so I haven't talked to her yet, thinking about just 1116 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 3: grabbing some stuff and leaving. We had our first talk. 1117 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,439 Speaker 3: I woke up gently, and when she realized I was there, 1118 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 3: I asked her to open Natalie's message and explain it 1119 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 3: to me. She grabbed her phone and when she realized 1120 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 3: what the video was, she started with it's not what 1121 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 3: it seems. I can explain it. I felt a sudden 1122 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 3: surge of anger, so I ra my voice and left 1123 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 3: the room. She came after me and stammered that she 1124 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: was sorry that I wasn't supposed to find out. I 1125 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 3: also told her how hurtful the things she said in 1126 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 3: that video were, and she said she was wasted and 1127 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 3: that Natalie likes to do some power dynamic stuff. So 1128 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,720 Speaker 3: that means like you do multiple times? Yay, ult times. 1129 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes it so much better. Wow, this is 1130 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,919 Speaker 1: your really, you know what? Keep digging rising up? You're 1131 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: not You're digging up, not down? 1132 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 3: Are we in China? Because you've been digging for a while. 1133 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 1134 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 3: Then she bit her tongue, realizing what she had just admitted. 1135 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 3: So it looks like this has been going on for 1136 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 3: some time. When I asked her why, she just shrugged. 1137 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 3: Oh no. I told her to pack her things. She 1138 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 3: packed a double bag and left to go to a 1139 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 3: friend's place. 1140 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 1: Which friend, I wonder maybe starts going and I think. 1141 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 3: So I'm a mess. I'll try to meet up with 1142 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 3: a friend today to stop spiraling. And we've got an update. 1143 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 3: Three days later. Oh boy, oh boy, ay ya yai oh, Op, 1144 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 3: I want to get you a Yeah, I'm sorry, Op. 1145 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 3: That's tough. 1146 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: Op. You've had your trust time and time again shattered 1147 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: and I'm so sorry. This is not your fault. 1148 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. Stay in therapy, though, this is really tough. 1149 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 3: Three days later. Okay, So I met up with my 1150 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 3: now ex fiance Anna yesterday. We chose a cafe we 1151 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 3: both know, so a familiar environment but still public. Overall, 1152 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 3: I held up better than I would have expected. I 1153 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 3: neither yelled nor did I cry. We sat down and 1154 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 3: ordered some coffee, then looked at each other for a while, 1155 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: and finally I asked her if she had anything to say. 1156 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 3: She asked, well, what do you want to know? And 1157 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 3: I said everything? Do we really want to know everything? 1158 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: Though I don't think you need to know everything. I 1159 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: think you know you know more than enough. 1160 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 3: I think you already know everything. I don't think we 1161 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 3: need to know more. 1162 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what I got. 1163 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 3: This has been going on with Natalie since before our engagement, 1164 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 3: for about ten months. Why did you accept. 1165 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 1: The engagement because she liked it? 1166 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, she told me that while I'm absolutely fine for 1167 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 3: her spicy needs, she's always had a thing for a 1168 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 3: well endowed things. It purposely just happened when they were 1169 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 3: both wasted and walking home through a park. Natalie turned 1170 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 3: the bushes to pee and Anna could see it and 1171 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 3: liked what she saw. And when Natalie noticed it's post detailikes, 1172 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 3: things escalated from there. 1173 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know this, I know what Anna's doing. Yeah, 1174 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: She's just like, all right, since we're not even together anymore, 1175 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make it really sting. 1176 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, what can I say that will make 1177 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 3: you just hurt the most? She's not in love with Natalie, 1178 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 3: so her reasoning was that it wasn't really cheating. 1179 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh wow, I hope you bought two coffees wonder. 1180 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, since there was no emotional component. Sure. She regularly 1181 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 3: deleted all chats with Natalie to not leave a trace. 1182 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 3: He knows this is exactly my trauma, but figured if 1183 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 3: I never found out, it wouldn't hurt me. She regrets 1184 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 3: that I got to hear the things she said on 1185 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 3: the video, but claims she didn't mean any of it 1186 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 3: and that it's stuff Natalie likes to hear. I don't 1187 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 3: give a flying hoot what Natalie likes to hear. Stop 1188 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 3: telling me. Natalie is apparently a lot more dominant than 1189 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 3: I am. Stop it. 1190 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting upset for you, op stop. I genuinely don't 1191 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: get upset from stories like this. It does happen from 1192 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: time to time, and these are one of those times 1193 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: I would be seething. 1194 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which is why Anna agreed to do certain things. 1195 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 3: But Natalie that she has refused to do with me. 1196 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's so good. 1197 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 3: Stop telling me. She doesn't really know why she did it. 1198 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 3: She says, the spicy sleep was really good, but it 1199 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,919 Speaker 3: wasn't like she was missing anything with me, so you don't. 1200 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: It's worse. She is literally why saying anything anything, last 1201 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: resort to just really really twist the knife. Yeah, and 1202 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: she's doing it. She's doing it to me. I don't 1203 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: even know this. I don't even know you. But I 1204 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: hate her. 1205 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 3: She says she really loves me and is really sorry 1206 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 3: for hurting me. Now, No, she isn't, especially for how 1207 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 3: I found out. I told her how I've been hurting 1208 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 3: and how I've been feeling these last few days, and 1209 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 3: I could see some remorse in her face. 1210 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: Don't do it, don't do it. 1211 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 3: In the end, she actually started crying and begging me 1212 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 3: for forgiveness. Instead of being emotional, I was stone cold good. 1213 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 3: Just looked at her and said something along the lines 1214 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 3: of I think it'd be better if you gave me 1215 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 3: the ring back now. She took it literally and gave 1216 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 3: me back the engagement ring. I then told her I 1217 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 3: would like her to move out because I can't live 1218 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 3: with her anymore. She begged me to reconsider, or at 1219 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 3: least to wait and give us some time, and suggested 1220 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 3: couples counseling. 1221 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I'll give you some time. 1222 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 3: Ready time, Oh okay, time to go. 1223 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1224 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 3: I said we could speak again in a week, but 1225 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 3: if we couldn't agree to try to mend things by then, 1226 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 3: we'd have to split up. She half heartedly agreed. I 1227 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 3: held up pretty well until she was gone, and I 1228 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 3: went to my friend who had been waiting nearby. Then 1229 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 3: I pretty much instantly burst into tears. 1230 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: No, no, you know what he sucks. Yeah, she does. 1231 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: But I'm good on you for holding it. I know 1232 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: I was really hard for you to hold it strong 1233 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: and stone cold face. Then you did it, and you 1234 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: did and you let your friends see you vulnerable. Yeah, 1235 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: shout out to your friend God. 1236 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 3: You have a support system. 1237 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1238 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: And before anyone asks, no, I do not have the 1239 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 3: slightest intention of getting back together with Anna. I know 1240 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,439 Speaker 3: it's over, and we've got an update a month later, 1241 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 3: So we're about to find out if Op sticks to. 1242 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: His word again. I have a sudden my piece. There's 1243 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: a special place down below for her saying all those things, 1244 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: knowing it definitely hurt you, and then still having the 1245 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: gall to say, we can try still, right, we can 1246 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: work on this. It's an US thing. Yeah, No, we 1247 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 1: did this. 1248 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 3: There's no us anymore. There is an update though, a 1249 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 3: month later. The day is following the meeting with Anna 1250 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 3: were a blur. I didn't get much sleep, and after 1251 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 3: a week Anna moved out of our apartment to stay 1252 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 3: with a friend. I didn't ask who we know? 1253 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Who we know who? 1254 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 3: I just needed space to breathe and process everything. One night, 1255 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 3: while scrolling Instagram, I was showing a picture Natalie had posted. 1256 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 3: It was a casual group photo, but in the background, 1257 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 3: too small to see, was Anna sitting far too close 1258 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 3: to a man I didn't recognize. I went through all 1259 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 3: of Natalie's pictures and found glimpses of Anna in the 1260 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 3: background almost a dozen times, with eight different guys, and 1261 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 3: in the last four it was always the same man. 1262 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 3: I messaged Natalie, which I know I shouldn't have, but 1263 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 3: they were surprisingly apologetic and asked to meet up. I 1264 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 3: talked to my friend and then my therapist, and I 1265 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 3: actually went through with it. I had my friend nearby 1266 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 3: on call, and we met in a public place. When 1267 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 3: I arrived, Natalie was already waiting and looked uncomfortable. They 1268 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 3: started out saying they were sorry. I got hurt. I 1269 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 3: showed them one of the Instagram photos and asked who 1270 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 3: that was. They looked astonished and hadn't noticed Anna was 1271 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 3: in the picture, and then said I might as well 1272 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 3: hear from them. Anna had apparently started cheating on me 1273 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 3: about two years ago. No way, they've been together for 1274 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 3: four No in the beginning, she only came to Natalie 1275 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 3: for advice, but then Natalie became her cover story. And 1276 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 3: since Natalie always had a thing for Anna, Anna would 1277 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 3: agree to hook up with Natalie. Is a thank you. 1278 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 3: That's disgusting. That's disgusting, Natalie, you have no spine. 1279 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Natalie's disgusting. Anna's really disgusting. Don't care. There's a special place, 1280 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: yea in down below, like I said. 1281 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 3: And then they dropped another bombshell. They said, Anna isn't 1282 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 3: just staying with a friend, but with a guy she's 1283 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 3: been seeing regularly for the last two months. While she's 1284 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 3: still hooked up with Natalie. She had been more or 1285 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 3: less exclusive with this other guy. That's not exclusive. You're 1286 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 3: not exclusive with this other guy. If you're hooking up 1287 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 3: with another person and you also have a fiance, that's 1288 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 3: not exclusive. Wrong language. 1289 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: There can't say things that I want to do. I 1290 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 1: wish there's justice for you. Op. Yeah, you deserve more 1291 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: than this. Oh you will? You know what. I'm so 1292 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 1: happy you did not marry that person. 1293 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 3: Pretty much in a relationship of some sort. It seems 1294 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 3: she got cold feet when I found out, But now 1295 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 3: that she sees we won't reconcile. She has pretty much 1296 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 3: moved in with him. After all was said, I told 1297 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 3: Natalie that technically I should thank them for letting me know, 1298 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 3: but seeing what they did to me, I'd say, we're 1299 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 3: evening and that I hoped our paths would never cross again. 1300 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Not even what are we doing? 1301 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1302 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 1: What is this? Oh? You should thank me for this, 1303 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: for this information, but I won't. Why would I thank you. 1304 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 3: I will not be doing that. They agreed and left. 1305 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 3: I blocked them on Instagram for my own sanity. Then 1306 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 3: I sent Anna a message consisting of one of the 1307 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 3: pictures from Natalie's Instagram with the words I know if you, 1308 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 3: and then I blocked Anna. Then I pretty much broke down. 1309 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 3: My friend got me home somehow, and I've been out 1310 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 3: only to go to the doctor to get a sick 1311 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 3: note so I can stay home for two weeks. Everything 1312 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 3: was a lie. Anna fell out of love with me 1313 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 3: a long time ago. 1314 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: Oh boy, this is one of the they're all bad, 1315 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: but this is one of the worst cheating stories we've read. 1316 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty bad. It's pretty bad. 1317 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: They're all bad, but this is like the knife was 1318 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: twisted so many times, it's pretty bad. I want to 1319 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: find this girl, you know what. I shouldn't find this girl. 1320 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to find this girl because she doesn't 1321 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: deserve my air. 1322 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 3: It's pretty dang bad. Update four, Just a small update. 1323 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 3: Anna texted me last night using some other phone number 1324 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 3: in reply to my last message. It was filled with 1325 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 3: the usual She's sorry about how I found out and 1326 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 3: how things went. It isn't what it looks like. She 1327 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 3: doesn't know what's wrong with her or why she did 1328 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 3: what she did. Because she loves me so much and 1329 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,919 Speaker 3: I'm the best man she's ever met. I don't care. 1330 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 1: They're just words. 1331 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 3: I didn't bother to reply. I just blocked that number. 1332 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 3: Then I wept myself to sleep. Oh another update. I've 1333 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 3: been away over the weekend and it's been not as 1334 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 3: bad as the rest of the week. I actually had 1335 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 3: some fun. I looked at a plot of land I 1336 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 3: am considering buying to build a tiny house on, and 1337 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 3: the woman selling it smile at me, and I think 1338 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 3: I smiled back without thinking anything. I might not be 1339 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 3: completely broken, but that's the end of that story.