1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day BAQ podcast. Good morning, It's Tuesday, 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: the seventeenth of March. I'm Caroline hepkea in London and. 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: I'm Stephen Carolin Brussels. Coming up today, Iran baum's oil 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: and gas fields across the Gulf, as US President Trump's 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: calls for help are met with caution and rejection. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 4: A trillion dollar forecast. 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: Nvidia's Jensen Wong makes an eye catching projection for next. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Year plus as US doocs of their best day since February. 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: Are global markets too complacent about the risks of war? 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 4: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: Iran has stepped up attacks on energy infrastructure across the 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: Middle East, once again pushing the price of oil higher. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: Operations were suspended at the Shan Natural Gas Field and 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: the United Arab Emirates after a drone strike, while an 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: Iraqi oil field and key Emarati Port were also targeted 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: by Irain in drones and missiles. That's his US Treasury 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Secretary Scott Bess and tild CNBC that they are allowing 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: around to continue shipping crewed via the Strait of Hormuz. 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: Rebecca Babin is a senior energy trader at CIBC Private 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: Wealth Group. 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 5: On the one hand, we're getting some signs that there's easing, 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 5: whether it's through traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, a 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: trickle but directionally better than the direction it was going. 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 5: We also get some rhetoric that there may be an 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 5: off ramp emerging in the background, while at the same 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: time we still see energy infrastructure targeted. So there's this 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 5: potion poll that's constantly kind of dragging the market higher 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 5: and lower each day, just based on the sheer amount 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 5: of headlines that are hitting. 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: Rebecca Babin was speaking as Goldman Sachs warned that the 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: largest oil market shock in history will have a greater 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: impact on products such as jet fuel and diesel than 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: on crude. While crude prices have surged by more than 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 3: forty percent since the first attacks, at fuel prices across 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: parts of Asia have doubled. 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: In some cases. 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: Energy consumers from India to Japan are confronting shortages. 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump has reiterated his calls for other 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: countries to help secure the Strait of Hormuz, saying they 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: should be jumping to help us because we've helped them 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: for years stay out of wars. However, US allies in 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: Europe and Asia have so far appeared unenthusiastic about the prospect. 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: European Union fine ministers meeting in Brussels yesterday said that 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: they did not want to escalate the conflict. Meanwhile, UK 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Kis Starmer said Britain is working with security 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: partners to draft a viable collective plan to reopen the Strait. 48 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: While taking the necessary action to defend. 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 6: Ourselves and our allies, we will not be drawn into 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 6: the wider war. 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Starmer was speaking as Britain explores whether to contribute autonomous 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: mine hunting drones to US efforts. Few hours later, President 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Trump took aim at the Prime minister. 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 7: So I was very upset with not upset. I was 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 7: not happy with the UK. I think they'll be involved, Yeah, maybe, 56 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 7: but they should be involved enthusiastically. We've been protecting these 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 7: countries for years with NATO. Whose NATO is US. You 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 7: can ask Putin. Putin fears US, he has a ver 59 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 7: He has no fear of Europe whatsoever. 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: The US President said that more than seven thousand targets 61 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: have been struck and warned that he could expand strikes 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: on kaj Island to include oil infrastructure. According to figures 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: from governments and non governmental organizations, at least four thousand 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: people have now died in the conflict. 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: President Trump has asked to delay his summers with Chinese 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: leader she's Ingping as the war up ends his other priorities. 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: He says it's important for him to remain in Washington 68 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: to oversee the conflict in the Middle East. Bloomberg's chief 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: North Asia correspondent Steven Engel says that's likely the best 70 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: outcome for China too. 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 8: All cards are off the table. If Donald Trump's number 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 8: one goal right now is to get his allies, and 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 8: he included China on board to help calm the situation 74 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 8: in the Straits of Hormuz. If he is on camera, 75 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 8: was she jimping in Beijing? And he asked she are 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 8: you going to support the peace efforts in the Strait 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 8: of Hormones? 78 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: What's she jimping going to say? 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: Anger, lads? The sou Much was supposed to be a 80 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: key moment where the two countries would set out a 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: new economic relationship. The US present demanded China join his 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: efforts to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. China's State on 83 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: Global Times newspaper dismissed the idea as Trump's attempt to 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: spread the risk of quote a war that Washington started 85 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: and can't finish. 86 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: European natural gas prices will be forty percent higher than 87 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: previously projected for twenty twenty six, that's according to a 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: report from HSBC, and they'll stay high in twenty twenty seven. 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: The bank expects the closure of the Straight of Homous 90 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: to set off a supply shortage, which will leave European 91 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: countries paying a significant premium. The forecast stands in stark 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: contrast to US natural gas futures, which have barely budged. 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: Ireland's Finance Minister Simon Harris says the EU is discussing 94 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: what tools to use to mitigate the economic impact. 95 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 6: We are prepared in Ireland to act, but we're trying 96 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 6: to make sure that the course of action we take 97 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 6: is the correct one, because while we're talking about energy today, 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 6: should this conflict go on for a prolonged period of time, 99 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 6: of course the economic impact is beyond energy, inflationary impact 100 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 6: on growth, impact on the Eurozone. So we do need 101 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 6: to try and make sure we get the best possible 102 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 6: data across the Eurozone in the days ahead. 103 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: Simon Harris, who is also Ireland's Deputy Prime Minister, added 104 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: that it builds the case for energy and dependence. Ireland's 105 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: Prime Minister, Mijol Martin, will be one of the first 106 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: world leaders to meet the US President Donald Trump since 107 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: the attacks on Ivonne when he visits the White House 108 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: today for a Saint Patrick's Day ceremony. 109 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: Private credit default rates are on the rise. Those the 110 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: findings of new research illustrating the impact of tech disruption. 111 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: Boom Brooks two out of bio has. 112 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 9: More elevated leverage and looming maturity walls could push default 113 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 9: rates to near peak levels unseen since the pandemic. That's 114 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 9: the view of a team of analysts at Morgan Stanley, 115 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 9: who say things are only set to get worse as 116 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 9: AI becomes more advanced. Global credit markets have recently come 117 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 9: under pressure as investors assess potential software driven revenue stream 118 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 9: interference and after years of predictable earnings and higher margins. 119 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 9: Morgan Stanley says software is the largest sector in business 120 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 9: development portfolios, but now angst around the area is pushing 121 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 9: redemption requests higher as managers mull their next moves. In 122 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 9: London Tea at a bio Bloomberg Radio. 123 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: Answer, Rachel Reeves has vowed that the UK will adopt 124 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: artificial intelligence faster than any other Group of Seven nation, 125 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: as she hailed the technology as a key plank of 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: her bid to spur economic growth for Rosy when Parts 127 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: has more. 128 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 10: Britain's Chancellor will use the annual Mace Lecture today to 129 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 10: set out her economic vision, highlighting AI, regional growth and 130 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 10: closer tized with the European Union as the biggest opportunities 131 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 10: for growth. She'll say that Britain cannot affords to standstill 132 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 10: and she wants the technologies of the future invented, built 133 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 10: and deployed here in this country. Separately, the Department of Science, 134 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 10: Innovation and Technology says the UK will spend more than 135 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 10: a billion pounds on quantum computing research over the next 136 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 10: four years, boosting a technology that's increasingly considered critical to 137 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 10: national security. In London, i'm une parts of Bloomberg Radio. 138 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: Nvidia is predicting that its flagship AI processors will help 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: to generate a trillion dollars in sales through twenty twenty seven, 140 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: CEO Jensen Wong made the four past during his speech 141 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: to the company's annual product events. 142 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: And in video. 143 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 11: As you know today, we're the only platform in the 144 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 11: world today that runs every single domain of AI across 145 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 11: every single one of these AI models in language and biology, 146 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 11: and computer graphics, computer vision and speech, and videos. Architecture 147 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 11: is fungible for all of that, and we're incredible for 148 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 11: all of that and videos. 149 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: Jensen Wong also announced plans to push deeper into central 150 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: processing units and introduce new semiconductors. The company is competing 151 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: with increasingly skeptical investors, though, who want more evidence that 152 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: its success will last. Following the news and video, shares 153 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: rose as much as four point eight percent before pairing 154 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: gains closing up one point six percent in New York. 155 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: So those are our top stories for you today. In 156 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: the markets, Brain crude futures currently trading just shive one 157 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: hundred and five dollars a bowl, up by point three percent, 158 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: this despite a retreat on Monday Goldman Sachs as we've 159 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: heard seeing jet fuel diesel prices as being more affected 160 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: than crude. Remember, the global benchmark is are nearly seventy 161 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: percent so far this year, so very elevated volatility in 162 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: oil markets, but weirdly that doesn't seem to be translating 163 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: into stocks. Lots of questions about why global ecuties on 164 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: the Your Country World Index are actually up a tenth 165 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: of one percent and up in some markets in Asia. 166 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: Stop futures for the US in Europe though deeply in 167 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: the red, down six tents of one percent. Teny Treasury 168 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: yields up three basis points. This morning, the RBA hiked 169 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: interest rates, which is interesting at the start over a 170 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: lot of central bank rate decisions that the RBA hiking 171 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: to four point one percent today. 172 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: Those are the markets. 173 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: In a moment, we'll discuss why stock markets could be 174 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: too complacent on events in the Middle East, plus why 175 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: the Irish Phucks annuals in Patrick's day trip to the 176 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: White Eyed Looks were politically proc arius than ever. But 177 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: first let's bring you up to date with the latest 178 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: from the Middle East. On the eighteenth day of the war, 179 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: a Middle East managing editor, Honor Aunt, joins us. Now 180 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: for more, Honor, we have this use of around attacking 181 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: a natural gas field in the UAE. Its latest strike 182 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: in a series on energy infrastructure. How much disruption are 183 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: these attacks causing. 184 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: And we need to look at the latest attack in 185 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: the UEE on the Shot gas field in terms of 186 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: what it represents in terms of the change in the 187 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: kind and type of attacks that Iran is staging. This 188 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: is the first time there has been an attack on 189 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: an upstream acid in the ue Upstream acid means an 190 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: asset that produces oil or gas, so this marks a 191 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: first in the ue and it becomes the second large 192 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: gas production site or gas production facility that can go 193 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: offline as a result of Iran after Qatar already stopped 194 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: producing LEG at a key facility during the first week 195 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: of the war. So that original stoppage in Katar represents 196 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: a huge amount of global LEG output. Qatar is one 197 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: of the top three producers of the field in the world, 198 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: and now we have this field attack in Abu Dhabi 199 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: or near abudab and that accounts for about a fifth 200 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: of the national gas output. We don't know if output 201 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: has come to stop as a result of this morning's attack, 202 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: but if it does, then that's definitely a huge blow 203 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: to gas supply in the region. 204 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I mean, just Ine, we've seen prices 205 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: up by something like sixty percent for that gas prices, 206 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: so that would be a very big development. President Trump 207 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: has again appealed for help to reopen the Straight of Hormuz. 208 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: His allies, including those in Europe, don't seem very convinced 209 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: that's true. 210 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: What President Trump said yesterday was slightly different than his 211 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: comments in the preceding two days. He claimed that there 212 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: are numerous countries that are willing to and will help 213 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: will heed his call for help to reopen the Strait 214 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: of Hormus. We don't quite know which countries he was 215 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: referring to, he said, Mark Rubio, his Secretary of State, 216 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: will announce them later. But we have seen the president 217 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: of Finland saying that NATO countries should take Trump's call seriously, 218 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: and those countries that can help should do so. So 219 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: there are some signs that there may be countries who 220 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: might respond positively to Trump's call for help. But on 221 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: the other hand, we have seen some of the major partners, 222 00:12:53,360 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: such as the UK, Japan, Australia and others, they denying 223 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: that they want to take part in this mission, although 224 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: the UK did signal that, you know, they just don't 225 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: want to take part in the wider war, so there 226 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: might be some nuance there, but we did see in 227 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: all out positive response. 228 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: Honor and our managing editor for the Middle East. We'll 229 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: have to leave it there. Thank you very much for 230 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: bringing us up to date. 231 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: Stay with us. 232 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: More from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up after this now. 233 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: Oil prices remain well above one hundred dollars about this morning, 234 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 2: but equity markets rose in the US yesterday and in 235 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: Asia today as investors focus on an upbeat forecast from 236 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: chip maker and Vidia. Our Markets Live Executive editor Mark 237 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: Hudmore joins us now for more. Mark, good morning. Can 238 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: you explain what's going on there? We're eighteen days into 239 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: this war that is causing major disruption to energy supplies, 240 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: but stock markets don't seem to be that concerned, at 241 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: least they're not showing it. 242 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 12: It's interesting to say that you'd be probably quite surprised 243 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 12: to hear that the MSCI All Country World Index is 244 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 12: having its worst month in three and a half years. 245 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 12: So it's worse months in September twenty twenty two, which 246 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 12: was a really bleak year for stock markets. I think 247 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 12: it fell twenty seven percent of that decline, so stock 248 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 12: are having a terrible month. The reason that you may 249 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 12: be missing the pain is that US stock markets aren't 250 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 12: down much. They're only down a little bit, and that 251 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 12: kind of speaks to the problem what's been holding up 252 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 12: the US stock market. If you look at kind of 253 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 12: the performer so far this month, technology, software, and financials, Well, 254 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 12: what was the problem before this month started? Before the conflict, 255 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 12: we were worried about private credit wearing it financials and 256 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 12: we're worried about the SaaS apocalypse, the effect on software 257 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 12: as a service industry. So software and financials were short 258 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 12: and they're the outperformers this month, and that speaks the 259 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 12: fact that because the conflict, people are just cutting risk, 260 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 12: cutting positioning. So the theme going into March where US 261 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 12: stock markets under forming in particular financials and software, with 262 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 12: Asian European markets booming. What we're seeing this month is 263 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 12: Asian European markets getting hit generally quite badly, European markets 264 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 12: particular so far, with US stock markets holding up. Okay, 265 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 12: as people close those short positions. So I would say, yeah, 266 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 12: worse month of three and a half years means that 267 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 12: equities are reacting, but I do think they can react 268 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 12: a lot more. I think as the first wave is 269 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 12: just people cutting risk, they're not yet trading very barishly, 270 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 12: yet they will do absolutely I think, you know, I 271 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 12: remain very bearish in stocks. I think, yes, it's the 272 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 12: worst month three and a half years, but it can 273 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 12: get a lot worse. 274 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: So what could cause equity markets to wake up to 275 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: this so that we would see signs of it getting 276 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: a lot worse. 277 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, stock stocks people are not inclined to sell 278 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 12: down because the macro backdrop is so strong. In terms 279 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 12: of that, before this conflict, you had just a massive 280 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 12: capex bubble, which means loads of private sector injection of 281 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 12: money into the economy. You have massive fiscal stimulus all 282 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 12: over the world from Japan, Europe, US, China, so basically 283 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 12: every part of the world is kind of spending money 284 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 12: and yet growth is okay, and we got relatively easy 285 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 12: monetary policy relative to inflation. So literally this is the 286 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 12: golden era from stock markets. As the kind of the 287 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 12: going into the conflict, the macrobotrip was incredibly strong, which 288 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 12: means that stock investors don't want to sell down their 289 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,359 Speaker 12: lungs while they retain hope that maybe there's a resolution 290 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 12: in the conflict. Now not a geopolitical expert, but I 291 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 12: see no chance of the straight opening properly anytime soon, 292 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 12: which is why I think, you know, those people who 293 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 12: are cleaning onto THO positions will have to capitulate at 294 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 12: some point. But I understand why they're kind of staying 295 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 12: relatively stubborn and why you know, the losses of about 296 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 12: five percent in the global index so far this month 297 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 12: aren't more dramatic given the scale the shock out there. 298 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 12: What is going to trigger them? Well, you know, essentially 299 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 12: as the conflict goes on day to day, they increase, 300 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 12: you have to give up hope there's a growth impact. 301 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 12: But also it's what's happening on the yield side. We're 302 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 12: just seeing, you know, rates continue to drift higher. 303 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 7: Now. 304 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 12: I think it's hard for them to go much higher 305 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 12: as we start migrating into the growth impact, which is 306 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 12: going to be the next lens. But certainly it's the 307 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 12: squeezhiger and yields that's starting to hurt stocks much more acutely. 308 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, just look at europeon yields for that. We 309 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: also do have a very big week for central bank decisions. 310 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: We started with the RBA with a hike today when 311 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: might it become their problem? 312 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 12: I mean, it is there a problem already. The problem 313 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 12: is though, that they don't know exactly which problem it is. 314 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 12: Is it going to be the inflationary impulse or is 315 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 12: it going to last long enough for the demand destruction 316 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 12: for there to be risk of a global recession. You know, 317 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 12: that sounds like a bit of a panic mongery phrase 318 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 12: right now, and it would be if the if the 319 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 12: conflict's over soon. But you know, if the if the 320 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 12: conflict carries on for another couple of months, that's that's 321 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 12: a serious threat. We've got. We've got the risk of 322 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 12: a proper crisl in hands. I'm not saying we're heading 323 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 12: for a proper crisis, but we've got a we've got 324 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 12: a risk out there, and we at the moment, we 325 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 12: don't have an exit ramp. The incentives don't seem to 326 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 12: be there for the strait to be opened. So it 327 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 12: is the Center Banks problems, but it's not. It's not. 328 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 12: They're not clear which problem it is and what they 329 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 12: can do about it, which is why RBA was probably 330 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 12: the most exciting one out of the way. Most the 331 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 12: rest of them will be ultimately quite boring. That they're 332 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 12: monitoring their watching. You know, we'll trade them the short term. 333 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 12: The short term people will care about them, but ultimately 334 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 12: they'll all be forgotten what they said this week by 335 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 12: next week, because it all depends on the path of 336 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 12: the conflict. 337 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Mark, I should say, given that we are two 338 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: Irish people abroad, we're morally obliged to wish you to 339 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: the same happy Saint Patrick's Day on this March seventeenth. 340 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: What does Saint Patrick Day look like in Singapore? 341 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 12: It doesn't. It doesn't feel like the right mood to 342 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 12: wish happy Saint Patrick Day, doesn't. I will say that 343 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 12: it's they make a you know, a pretty good party 344 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 12: out of it here in Singapore. It's very impressive, I 345 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 12: will I think there's some commercial interests. Guinness seems to 346 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 12: have hijacked into a three week festival, which is impressive effort. 347 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 12: But yes, there's there's endless days of celebrating to Patrick's Day. 348 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 3: Here, Yes, indeed, And this is my first time doing 349 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: in Belgium, and they have the Fine Arts Institute for 350 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: the party here this evening, so looking forward to that. 351 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: But thank you very much to our Markets Live Executive 352 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: editor Mark Cudmore and Carolyn, this is something that we've 353 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: been reading about. The reporting from our colleagues in Dublin 354 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: this morning as well, Jennifer Duggan and Olivia Fletcher reporting 355 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: on the Thetics trip to the White House. We mentioned 356 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 3: it in the News World a little bit earlier as well. 357 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: It's this annual event, the handing over of the Bowl 358 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: of Shamrock to the US President. But it's an event 359 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: that not this time around. Perhaps isn't the soft power 360 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: that's in concern, but actually the risks involved, and that's 361 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: that they've been reporting on because of course Ireland's economic 362 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: ties to the US are very deep, and you know, 363 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: given the moment that where we are geopolitically in the world, 364 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: there's fraught with danger, is how our colleagues refer to it. 365 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think you're right. 366 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: In any other year you'd be talking about as the 367 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: Irish Independent did diaspora diplomacy. You know, I was in 368 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: Europe over the weekend in Madrid and there was a 369 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: huge parade Guinness sponsored of Saint Patrick's Day and it 370 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: is very impressive, this idea of soft power. But as 371 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: you say, the T shirt's going to be in the 372 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: White House at a time when President Trump, you knows, 373 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: thinking about trying to counsel delay his trip to China 374 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: in order to focus on the war in Iran. Will 375 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: there be any pressure on Ireland? We don't know, but yes, 376 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: it's this is difficult time, isn't it. 377 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 9: Yeah? 378 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: And if you're looking for some Irish culture this morning, 379 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: can I recommend listening to Dolores Kine, the Irish folk 380 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 3: singer who died yesterday, part of the best selling Irish 381 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: album in history, which is A Woman's Heart from nineteen 382 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: ninety two. 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