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Speaker 1: I may play a Disney heroin, but if you cross me,

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Speaker 1: I'll kick your fucking ass.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Type A with a side of dass and

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of coffee. I'm a Type A, but

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Speaker 2: I'm a sea cut that would be better. Sorry, I'm

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Speaker 2: not your sea cover. Not.

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Speaker 3: I am more, more, better, more, a little bit more

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Speaker 3: better more.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending

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Speaker 1: to have it all together and embrace the journey of

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Speaker 1: becoming a little more better.

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Speaker 2: Every day, or at least trying to. That's most from Marrow,

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Speaker 2: and that's Stephanie Beatrice. Hey, guys, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: How are you I I just told you your hair

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Speaker 1: looked great? Is that because you were shooting yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Because I was shooting last night till like one thirty

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Speaker 2: in the morning, and so fresh curls. I do enjoy

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Speaker 2: the way they're doing your hair on the show. Thank you. Yeah, welcome.

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Speaker 2: Not allmine. There's a lot of fake hair in there.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it looks great. It's it was somebody's at some point.

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Speaker 2: It is real hair. Yes, you're right, it is real hair. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, if you haven't watched Melissa's

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Speaker 1: show yet, it is on NBC.

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Speaker 2: It's on the following day on Peacock.

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Speaker 1: It is so good. It's so funny, it's so smart.

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Speaker 1: It's also like delectable, like juicy. I guess is a

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Speaker 1: way to say it, like if you like if you

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Speaker 1: like things like if you like funny, sexy, good fashion.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fun to look at. It's like a

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Speaker 1: gorgeous looking show. And there's like sort of these like

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Speaker 1: fun narratory elements to it where like not the I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say like the point of view necessarily changes, although

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Speaker 1: you get and character's point of view specifically per each episode,

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Speaker 1: you get like a little more about them. It's very

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Speaker 1: it's giving like it there's a lot of secrets, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: everybody's hair is so big because it's full of secrets.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's hair is so big because it's full of secrets.

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Speaker 2: I stole that from Mean Girls. I love it and

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Speaker 2: thank you friend. Yeah, it's a fun, escapist show. It's yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: I'm through all the episodes airs I believe Sunday nights,

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Speaker 1: but you can always catch it the next day on

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Speaker 1: Peacock and it's on Peacock.

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Speaker 2: I very much look forward to your live texts while

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Speaker 2: you're watching it.

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Speaker 1: I text it because I refuse to use X because

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Speaker 1: you know, Mesku is an idiot.

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Speaker 2: The reasons for obviously we missed that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I do miss the live tweets, so I personally live

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Speaker 1: tweet you.

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Speaker 2: When I'm watching the show so great, which is also

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Speaker 2: annoying because I know she knows what's going to happen

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait, is this the person who did this?

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Speaker 2: And now are they cheating with this person? She's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think we'd give it away that, and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 2: it's really fun. So if you're looking for something fun

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Speaker 2: to watch, I highly recommend, and not just because she's

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Speaker 3: It more better.

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about today? We are talking about

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Speaker 2: something that's gonna get you so excited. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: getting better at appreciating reality TV.

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Speaker 1: This is how you know that our producer is indulging

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Speaker 1: me because I do really love reality TV. I was

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Speaker 2: I'm like a smart person, and I don't need you

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Speaker 2: that I'm consuming, I don't need in my my show friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love all forms of this genre and I will

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Speaker 1: call it that. God damn it, I will because listen,

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Speaker 1: if you don't watch it, then perhaps this isn't the

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Speaker 1: episode for you, Melissa.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm going to really try hard not to

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Speaker 2: Well, it was like the early aughts and it was

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Speaker 2: We're just a bunch of in reality shows and we're

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Speaker 2: Real World. I remember my mind was blown. Puck I

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Speaker 2: Remember that, guys. The Real World. The first season of.

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Speaker 1: The Real World was absolutely like nothing you've ever seen

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Speaker 1: It didn't affect me in that way, but I do remember.

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Speaker 2: I do remember feeling like, God, this is a lot

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Speaker 2: And that's like it starts his life. He would have

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Speaker 2: Listen to this. I will say, if Enzel's old enough

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Speaker 1: He's also old enough to hear you read aloud to

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Speaker 2: How would you handle that? How would you whoa? What

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Speaker 2: to Wait a minute, I have to back up.

433
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: You don't know, un believable, unbelievable. You don't know what

434
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: scandabal is. No, Melissa Quick, it's real.

435
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: It's a real Housewives thing.

436
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: No, it's a vander Pump Rules thing Van was on

437
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: for like thirteen seasons. It's Tom Standibal cheating on Ariana

438
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: Maddox with her quote unquote best friend, not really her

439
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 1: best friend at all.

440
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I kind of knew about this through sosi

441
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: social media.

442
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: Listen, so like Andy says, so no, so no social no, no, Sosh.

443
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: I think when that happened, he cheated on her in

444
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: their house that they shared together.

445
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: They'd been together. Was that on the show or was

446
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: it just like it came out on the show. It

447
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: was on the show, like they got that shit on camera,

448
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: Like what did he see? Idiot?

449
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: Basically they got it on camera. I mean, I think

450
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: he wanted to get caught. Also, I think he just

451
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: thought he was like up above it a little bit

452
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: because he'd been on the show for so long. It

453
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: was like, I think twelve seasons they were on the show.

454
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: He was like delusional about it.

455
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: I think so.

456
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's delusional in many a way, but I

457
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: feel like he was. It was like so close to

458
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: the camera, Like it was so close that it But

459
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: then when she found out, when it all came out,

460
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: she had this amazing scene where she I mean, it

461
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: was just coming from her guts. I'd never seen anything

462
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: like it. She was just like I would have gone

463
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: to the end with you, Like I would have been

464
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: with you ride or die. Like it was gnarly watching

465
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: her just destroy him on camera, and like it was

466
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: also really validating and and like everybody in America just

467
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: like got behind her because like everybody you haven't been

468
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: cheated on, you know somebody that has, or you've been wronged,

469
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: and you wish that you could just fucking stick it

470
00:25:59,680 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: to them.

471
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: And she did in that moment, and it was he

472
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: said all the things, all the things that we hours

473
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: later or days later, while in the middle of the night,

474
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: were like, damn, I wish you would have said this.

475
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: She did that. She did the thing, and then she

476
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: got reunion shows to do it again. Oh shit, and

477
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: the and the girl was there and the girl that

478
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: he cheated with.

479
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: And that's part of it, is like you get to

480
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: watch these people have these experiences and and you do.

481
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: You get to sit on your couch and judge them

482
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: and judge them and be like that is terrible, that

483
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: Cason is horrible.

484
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: I would never do that. I guess That's where I

485
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: struggle though, Like you said, just no girl, you know me,

486
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: I do it plenty. No more like like the reunion

487
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: show you just brought up, and that he was there

488
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: and she was there, and the woman that he cheated

489
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: on her with was there. I my. What immediately happens

490
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: to me is I go, oh, they were either they

491
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: were like manipulated into all being there and this is

492
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: like producers behind the scene being like slimy and swarmy

493
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: or like or what they they they're all like they

494
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: know exactly what's going on and they and they want

495
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: to be there because they want to milk this as

496
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: much Like like my brain gets really cynical and like

497
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: of like what are all the moves and the motivations

498
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: of why people why they're doing this, and then it

499
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: like takes the fun out of it for me. I see,

500
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: I see, I see. Yeah yeah, because you're like the

501
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: human rights like I'm getting to be fed manipulated, manipulated thing,

502
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: whether it's the producers or the people involved.

503
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: Like that's really fascinating. I mean only because we're actors.

504
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: Too, Like it's really cynical.

505
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: It Well, what I think is fascinating about this is

506
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: because we're actors, so.

507
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: Like we do I mean, manipulate is a nasty word.

508
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, like you know the machine, so you're going

509
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: like I see this machine, right, but like.

510
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: But we do it too, Like we our stuff is

511
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: structured in a way that's like listen, I'm not saying

512
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: we're like you know the old Pixar movies that like

513
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: make you cry within like ten minutes watching them. I'm

514
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: not saying we're doing that.

515
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, we are making moves we are

516
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: like you know, whether it's like the writing or like

517
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: showing you know, two people accidentally bumping elbows, or the

518
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: music that's behind something to like make you feel a

519
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: certain way, or like the lighting on someone's.

520
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: Face, you know, the audience on a ride, and you're

521
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: saying that they are basically doing the same thing they are.

522
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: They're just doing it very clunkily, very like right. Maybe

523
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: my cynicism is part of that. I'm like, that's part

524
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: of it. You're like, this is bad, it could be better.

525
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: This is bad and it could be better, and you

526
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: should get some writers and take some acting classes and

527
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: like actually do the fucking thing, because it's I don't

528
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: want them to take riting acting classes.

529
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: I want them to be their cringey selves so that

530
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: I have to watch it behind my hands, like slightly

531
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: open like this, because it does make me cringe. I

532
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: will say that makes me so cringey, and I hate.

533
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: Things that make me cringe. I do too. You want,

534
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: but you want, but you but these are your favorite ones,

535
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: But I don't watch them all I just pay. I

536
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: selectively choose.

537
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: I selectively choose the ones that are going to make

538
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: me cringe and enjoy it in equal amounts.

539
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: It is like it's equal amounts.

540
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: Okay, So, because I know you don't watch them, I

541
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: want to know. I'm going to read you awful list

542
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: of very popular reality television shows just because I know

543
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: you don't watch any of them. And you can say

544
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: yay or nay if you or like yes or I've

545
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: seen it or whatever. Okay, the Bachelor. You've watched The Bachelor.

546
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: I feel like I watched early seasons of the Bachelor. Yeah,

547
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: but again, I felt like the women were being so

548
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: manipulated and and there was something about a guy picking

549
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: from all these women. Oh, it's gross. It was too

550
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: cringey for me. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. Yeah, I don't

551
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: watch it anymore because they've bloated it to like fifty

552
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: episodes a season, and I can't and it's not good

553
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: at that. I mean, I'm exaggerating, but I'll watch I'll

554
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: watch sixty something episodes of Love Island because it's freaking hilarious.

555
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: But The Bachelor's boring. Okay. The Millionaire Matchmaker. Did you

556
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: ever watch that? I actually was very into The Millionaire.

557
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: I really liked it. Patty Sanger, Yes, I thought she

558
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: was so funny and weird. I thought she was so

559
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: funny and weird, but like also was weirdly good at

560
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: it and yeah, like kind of telling people like I

561
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: kind of loved when she whenever she was like you

562
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: need to get real about yourself, like when she would

563
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: read people, that was the best. When you would read

564
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: po like your expectations are unrealistic, like really want to

565
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: settle down, like thank you. Yeah, I appreciated that. I

566
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: was like more of that, just that as a show.

567
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: Just that Love is Blind. Have you watched that? No?

568
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: I had the one where they're like behind the walls, Yes,

569
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: and there it's like love connection, isn't that? Like yeah,

570
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: kind of like love connection connection. I remember seeing Love

571
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: Connection when I was a kid. I think my parents

572
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: watched it and like, well not unlike that, Love Is

573
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: Blind is full of maniacs. Ninety day Fiance. No. Laura

574
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Ash loves the show. Okay, Love Island, I've watched it.

575
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it, I

576
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: love it. I have not I have been curious about

577
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: Love Island. Is that just like a bunch of hot

578
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: people on an island and they're hooking up and what

579
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: is the point? Who do they win? Any point? Is love? Melissa?

580
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: The point? You're looking for love with a bunch of

581
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: really attractive, hot people who are pay into themselves and

582
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: all narcissists.

583
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: You would love it. I mean, they're not all narcisses.

584
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: Some of them are really really sweet and some.

585
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: Of them are ding dumb dumbs. Be sweet. Here's the thing.

586
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: Some narcisses can be Oh.

587
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: You're right, can be sweet some people. Some of them

588
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: are like actually really kind people at heart. And I

589
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: would start with the first season of the British one

590
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: because it is what are they so funny?

591
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: Do? Is it like if they fall in love they win?

592
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: Do they win money? Ye? Win anything.

593
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: One of the best parts of it is that every week,

594
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: well in the UK, it shows like there's like five

595
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: episodes a week or something crazy, Oh my god, and

596
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: you can call in and vote under your favorite couple,

597
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: and so like every week a couple gets voted like

598
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: people get voted off. It's fantastic people get voted off

599
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: the island. It's not a real island. It's like a villa. Okay, Oh,

600
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: it's just fantastic. It's like all the hormones and all

601
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: the drama and all the filler.

602
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: It's wonderful.

603
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: The first season, I think they were still letting them

604
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: drink alcohol, which was a real issue, which is makes

605
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: for a fantastic TV RuPaul's Drag Race.

606
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I have watched RuPaul's Drag Race, not as much as

607
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: I would like to, but earlier seasons I think I did.

608
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: When I was watching a bit more. I really really

609
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: really loved some of the first seasons. But sometimes it's

610
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: like I do like the perform like like the performance

611
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: kind of base reality shows.

612
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: The performance stuff is very fun, but sometimes it's hard

613
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: because you'll see someone that's like especially early on, it

614
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: was like you'd see someone that was so talented, so great,

615
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: but like maybe wasn't good at sewing, and there'd be

616
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: a sewing challenge and it was like, well, well shit,

617
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: like now what, or like someone there was like a

618
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: like a special costume whatever challenge and like you can

619
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: tell like maybe that queen doesn't quite have as much

620
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: expendable income, and that felt unfair. It feels like they

621
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: should give them a budget or something like here's your

622
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: they should not be paying for their.

623
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: Own Well, yeah, I mean.

624
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: I never watched The Voice or X Factor or anything

625
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: like that.

626
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: Did you, Oh? I did. I was big into American

627
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Idol in the beginning. I remember when Kelly Clarkson won,

628
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: I was, and then I was very into the Voice,

629
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: and I loved the Voice because at that point, I think,

630
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: which is why why it succeeded and why many people

631
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: went from American Idol to that was American Idol eventually

632
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: started to feel like it was about like the look

633
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: and the package and the whole thing, and that's why

634
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: they were picking some people over other people, like especially

635
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, and like some of the women sometimes

636
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just started to feel like that,

637
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: like who's got the star power? Not like more then

638
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: the Voice. When the Voice first started, it was like, Oh,

639
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: this feels very pure because I'm getting at them at all.

640
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: That's why they call it the Voice. Yeah, they're all

641
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: turned around, and that's why the turned around literally never

642
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: want they like and yeah, and if they're like, oh shit,

643
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: this person's good, they hit their button and turn around

644
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: and then they get to see what they look like. Interesting.

645
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: There's some voices that like completely don't match like what

646
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: a person like, or yeah, you know, somebody with a

647
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: huge voice will be like kind of scrawny and small

648
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: or you know cool, Okay, yeah, and so I got Yeah,

649
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: David and I used to watch that religiously, like in

650
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: the beginning, Oh that's cute. What about Amazing Race? Did

651
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: you ever watch that? I wanted to be on a race?

652
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: Remember when they were like I feel like celebrities were

653
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: doing or like actors were doing Amazing Race at one

654
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: point and I was like, fuck, yeah, I would fucking

655
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: do that.

656
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: You and David actually would make a really good Amazing

657
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Race team.

658
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: I know you would, we would. Brad made it.

659
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: I think Brad made it to like a couple like

660
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: close to the Amazing Race. He wasn't on it, but

661
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: I think he got like really close to the end

662
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: like that show.

663
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: Just I mean, you're traveling, you're seeing different things, like

664
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: and then yeah, but you're running. You have to run,

665
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: but you're running. I don't want to run. I'm not

666
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: a good run. Yeah, but it's I could take three

667
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: polities classes back to back, but put me on a track.

668
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: M M. Yeah. Those shows had fun, though, those like

669
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: competition kind of shows I can get into the physical

670
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: competition is. I also loved watching I did like watching

671
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: The Conflict on America. Amazing race between Like that's the

672
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: best part too, That's the best, the best when they're

673
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: there like in the middle of like yes and you're

674
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: like screaming from your couch. You're like, shut up, she

675
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: is obviously smarter than you. Listen to her.

676
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Or they're like in the middle of Amsterdam screaming at

677
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: each other on the street.

678
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: People are like, what is going on? The best, the best?

679
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: What about?

680
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: I never watched hold On, I have he's got this,

681
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: I have dog hair in my mouth. Fear Factor, Actually,

682
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: don't cut it, fear Factor.

683
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: Did you ever watch that when they had to like

684
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: eat weird shit and stuff? Oh god, I can't. I

685
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: feel like I did watch it in the very beginning

686
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: and I quickly was like I cannot again. That was

687
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: one of those shows where I was just like, now

688
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: we're just like manipulating and torturing people for fun, like

689
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: like this, this feels very uh Gladiator The Rate of Days, Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

690
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: that's it. That's it. Coliseum, The Twitch Great British Bakeoff,

691
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: one of the most calming shows. I freaking love that show.

692
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten into this show because I was a

693
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: huge top chef person and I love is It Cake?

694
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: If I could please be a guest on is It Cake?

695
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: A Cake? Just I keep I I think I've as

696
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: my manager like three times? Can you can you please

697
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: book me on music? Can't book me on? Is it Carol?

698
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: British Bakoff is so sweet? But I just for some

699
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: reason just haven't gotten into British Bakoff. But it was

700
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: and I feel like I should a lot of people

701
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: some joy and calm and yeah, there is something about

702
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: bakers right that is so I'm like the equal parts

703
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: uh soothed by them and also just like so fucking

704
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: impressed by them because I'm such a like exacting scientific process.

705
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: You would love every every episode of British big Off.

706
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: There's like challenges. There's like three challenges, and one of

707
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: them is the I can't remember what they call it,

708
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: but basically they get a bunch of ingredients at their

709
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: at their table and then they get the directions but

710
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: there's no measurements, so they just have to use their

711
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: like brain of like, okay, well I've made all these

712
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: things before, or I know how to make this and

713
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: I think.

714
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: It'll go kind of use it a palm of their

715
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: hand or like they I mean, they can use me

716
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: shrink spoons, but there's no like you just have everything

717
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: in your station, so you have to like science it out.

718
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: It's crazy, don't. I don't know how they do it.

719
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: I don't know how they do amazing. I would be

720
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: into that. The Real Housewives. I know, you haven't really

721
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: explored this world. I have not. I found The Real

722
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: Housewives of New Jersey very triggering for me because people,

723
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: you know what, the accents, what is it, the hairline,

724
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: all of it was my entire adolescence growing up. Somebody

725
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: always had a mom like that somebody or you were

726
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: at somebody's house that you didn't know that well and

727
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: all their relatives were there and they were screaming, and

728
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: you were just like, I don't know what to do

729
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: right now. Oh my god, this is amazing. That's amazing.

730
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I like the the you know, yeah, I don't. I mean,

731
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: I think I think most people from Jersey are like this.

732
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: I feel like you've even said it about me to

733
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: a degree. It's just like an in your face ness

734
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: and a brashness, and it's like and I feel like

735
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a lesser version of what I grew

736
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: up around. You know. It's just like closed face talking

737
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: and telling you what to do all the time. And

738
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: I get it, I hear you. I don't. I don't

739
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 2: think I would want to watch Real Housewives of Dallas

740
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: or Real Houses of Houston. Yeah, of Beverly Hills. Yes. Absolutely.

741
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: My husband went through a fee is where he was

742
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: got really into Atlanta and it was amazing as I

743
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: would come home and he'd just be on the couch

744
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of the day watching Real Housewives of Atlanta.

745
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I love him. So I think I've

746
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: seen probably the most of that Okay show and that

747
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: cast from Proximity. I don't even know how it started

748
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: or how he got into it, but heah sucked in.

749
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: That is so charm hilarious. Manny would do it. I

750
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: think there was like a little bit of like not

751
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: shame or like, but like it kind of felt like

752
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: he would do it when I wasn't home. He started

753
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: a little secret. Yeah that's really cute. That's really cute.

754
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: I mean I think people felt that way about vander

755
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 2: Pump I never watched vander Pump until all that stuff

756
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: with the cheating scandal went down, and then it was

757
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: actually know it was Peacock. Peacock put out a thing

758
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: on social media that was like, if you haven't watched

759
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: all thirteen seasons of this show, you can watch these

760
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: twelve episodes and know what's going on. And I was like, wow,

761
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: that's what That's smart marketing and they and it was true.

762
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: Like we started, my sister and my husband and I

763
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: all started watching it and we were like, all right, well,

764
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: so let's see what's going on here. You know, three

765
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: episodes in we were already like on season five, we

766
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: were like, this is grazy. I mean, it was crazy.

767
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: It was crazy. What about like sixteen and Pregnant? Did

768
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: you ever watch that? Absolutely not know. My sister loved that.

769
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: Honey Boo Boo Nope. That was a spin off of

770
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: Toddlers and.

771
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Tiara's Breadzella's Nope, Duck Dynasty, Uh.

772
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: Hell no, Jersey Short. I love to watch The Jersey

773
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 2: Shore the first season and when I say I hate watched,

774
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: I hate I hated it. Yeah, And then I was

775
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: like that annoying person constantly walking around being like you

776
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: know they're not actually from Jersey, right, they just go

777
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: on a shore in Jersey. They're all from Daden Island.

778
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: They're New Yorkers, New York come and get your girl.

779
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: Like one of the things that I found out taking

780
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: credit for these people they're from York.

781
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: That show only because I really only loved the first

782
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: season when they were all pure and like ridiculous and

783
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: so their alcohol use though, was alarming.

784
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: But I loved when they would get ready and be

785
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: like cabs he cabsy.

786
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: We used to do that all the time. Okay, uh,

787
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: I want to mention. And I don't think you've uh

788
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: wait before we finish. You've watched Queer Eye, You've watched

789
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: you've watched What Not to Wear? Right, yes, yes, what.

790
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: About America's Next Top Model? I want to be on

791
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: America's Next Top Model. In the early season, it was

792
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 2: so toxic. Oh my god, it was the worst. I

793
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: hated it. And then and then I yeah, and then

794
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: I fell off really started like screaming at them and

795
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: like I was, I was, what is it is rooting

796
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: for you? Rooting for you? Oh my god? And they

797
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: used to like the way they used to scrutinize their

798
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: bodies off. It was awful, like awful, It was disturbing

799
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: and like it was disturbing and I and I think,

800
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: I feel like that might have even been the show

801
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: that made me like really turn away from that? Was it?

802
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: That was it? That was the one that broke me.

803
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: I was like, we haven't all We also haven't really,

804
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean we did a little, we talked in the beginning.

805
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: I was like, not documentaries, but there is a genre

806
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: of reality TV that is like more like documentary style,

807
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: like like the what we all watched Tiger King. Remember

808
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: when that came out and everybody and we watched it.

809
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: It felt like, yeah, there was a bunch of stuff

810
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: that I watched when I my sister actually turned me

811
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: on to all this stuff. There was one called it

812
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: was on PBS, was called Frontier House, and it was

813
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: three families in the late eighteen hundreds.

814
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: That all had to live.

815
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: I thought it was a for a few weeks and

816
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: then we looked it up and it was, oh, I.

817
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: Were living like they were in the late eighteen hundreds.

818
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: They were living they had no electricity, no running water,

819
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: no bathrooms. They had to plant their own food and

820
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: grow their own food. They had to there was a

821
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: family with like six kids, and by the end of

822
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: the show, by the end of the five months, like

823
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: they were like starving basically, and then meanwhile their neighbors

824
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: had like all of this jarred food that they had

825
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: saved and they weren't sharing.

826
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: The drama was crazy. There was also a show called

827
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: That Feels Icky, though it was kid starting.

828
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: The kid's part was first of all, I don't know

829
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: how they got away with stuff like that in the beginning,

830
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: because now I'm sure that there's all sorts of There

831
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: was another show called kid Nation.

832
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: Have you heard of the show? No? Kid Nation was

833
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: like Lord of the Flies meet Steakcare. Like it was

834
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: they had all they were all these little kids and

835
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: like I don't know how for for how long, but

836
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: they were by themselves. There were no parents, and what

837
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: they separated themselves into groups of I think it was

838
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: like the girls and the boys. The boys were running wild.

839
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 2: There was nobody was cleaning an everything was a disea.

840
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: The girls had like an organized system of like are

841
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: you clean on this day? You clean on? This is

842
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: who's gonna cook, and this is who's gonna eat like it,

843
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: but it was children mostly, it was little children like

844
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: and I don't think anything bad happened to any of them,

845
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: but like it.

846
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: Was not okay, but it's fascinating to us.

847
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them that I really love.

848
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: Like there's a bunch of other ones that I love.

849
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: They're like I can't remember the names of them, but

850
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: they'll be like Elizabethan Christmas or like a Dwardian house

851
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: or late you know. And there are all these scientists

852
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: that they're like scientists and writers that go and like

853
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: they they'll talk to camera, but then they'll like be

854
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: like butchering a calf and like making candles out of

855
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: tallow and stuff.

856
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: I love that shit. I would watch it. I'm surprised, well,

857
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: maybe it's coming. I'm surprised we're there's not an onslaught

858
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: of like homestead trad wise type they're coming. There is,

859
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: but they're on TikTok. They're on TikTok. I do love

860
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: speaking of homesteading, though I haven't watched all the seasons

861
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: because they're a little hard to find because I guess

862
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: maybe it's not a US show. But Alone, have you

863
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: ever watched Alone? No? What's that? Oh my god, it's

864
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: so good. It's like it's maybe seven or eight s vivalists.

865
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a hard word to say survivals,

866
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: vible survival that's like anyway, anyway, we know what you're

867
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: talking about. People that try to survive professional and like

868
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: they fucking know what they are doing. So they drop

869
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: them in the wilderness in all different places, but more

870
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: or less in the same area, so they're dealing with

871
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: the same climate and the same weather and the same resources.

872
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 2: I think they get to bring like like two tools

873
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: with them because it's like that book Hatchet. Did you

874
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: ever read Hatchet when you were a kid? Oh fucking

875
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: lom Hatchet? Oh my god. And so maybe they also

876
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: there's some things like like ten items that like the

877
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: show gives them and they get to pick like one

878
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: or two tools that you know, they specifically like these people.

879
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: And then it's like whoever lasts the longest and they,

880
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, they get up to like ninety days

881
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: in the wilderness. They build freaking houses what and little

882
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: like clay ovens. It's like fascinating. It's also so impressive

883
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: all the things they can do. And then I think

884
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: I also enjoy it because I'm like, well, if the

885
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: apocalypse ever happens. I'm also kind of learning some things.

886
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: I now know how to use moss to insulate a house.

887
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: If I can figure out how to assemble a bunch

888
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: of sticks together to they don't. Here's the thing though,

889
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: the steaks feel very high in that one. I want

890
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: my steaks like Christmas high, you know what I mean?

891
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: Like I don't want are really high. They are really high.

892
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: There's like, yeah, there's there's dangerous animal encounters, but then

893
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: there's also like if they fall and get cut or

894
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: like you know, eat something bad, don't cook their thing right,

895
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Like no, yeah, so the producers just let them like

896
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: shit their pants on the camera and they cap out.

897
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: They like they have a they have a walkie, And

898
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: then there's that whole like debate they do with themselves

899
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: where they sometimes they're trying different things, do I tap

900
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: in it? And then when they grab that walkie, they're

901
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: so defeated and they're so and sometimes they're like proud

902
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: of themselves or how far they got, and then sometimes

903
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: they are just failed. Like yeah, it's really interesting to

904
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: that part of it to go like how would I, like,

905
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: how would I handle that? It's psychologically, I feel like

906
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: psychology I did and I made it to this point,

907
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: or would I be like, I'm fucking And they also

908
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: say and like the reason it's called alone is like

909
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: that part too. Eventually, the loneliness of them, you know,

910
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: it's weird. Some there's always like one or two that

911
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: have the personality of like thriving in that, like truly

912
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: being alone in the wilderness, and then there are some

913
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: that are like I need to see a person, Like,

914
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't do this anymore. How long?

915
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: How long do you think you would last? Oh my god,

916
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: like alone in the wilderness. If I knew what I

917
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: was doing, maybe I feel like I would start to

918
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: crack after like two weeks. I was literally I'm like,

919
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: hold like six hours, six hours, maybe a week. I mean,

920
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I feel like that's even you could do

921
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: six ambitious six hours. I couldn't do overnight. Are you

922
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: giving me no? No? I know, right? Yeah? Probably realistically,

923
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: after like like three days, I would I would be like, fuck,

924
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: I need to see so, I need to talk to somebody.

925
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: I need person, I need someone's energy. I would just

926
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: be like laying on the floor staring at the sky.

927
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would get really depressed. I could

928
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: do it, if I if I could be in like,

929
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: wasn't there were you telling me about a reality show

930
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: like where you had to be the person was in

931
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: a room by themselves or was it isis? Was it? Yeah?

932
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: Some Japanese reality show where it was kind of like

933
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: Big Brother, but it was just one person and they

934
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: were naked. I see, I could do it. I could

935
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: do it. I don't want to be naked. I don't

936
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: want to be naked alone in a room. Just in

937
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: a way, I can't do it.

938
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: If I had if I had books, if I had paints,

939
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: if I could sing, I'm fine, I could do it.

940
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean I would miss my family for how long.

941
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: I don't even like being in my trailer, like you know,

942
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: when we're having to wait, like, oh my god, yeah

943
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: wait we're still waiting, you know, No, no, no, I

944
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: don't want to be I don't want to. I know.

945
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: I start wandering sometimes looking for people knocking on doors

946
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: when you guys do it. Yeah, yeah, don't you remember

947
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: me knocking on your door? Yes? I do. I do

948
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: remember that. I do remember that more better. I feel like,

949
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: in general, this is a genre that's not going anywhere.

950
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: I think the thing that I am realizing from this

951
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: conversation is that I might be skewing a little bit

952
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: more toward the stuff that is lately, at least like

953
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: that allows me to sit back and judge, and I

954
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: think maybe I want to look at I mean that

955
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: I'll love show sounds crazy good, Like I would never

956
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: have it.

957
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: I would never have even thought about that because the

958
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: stakes feel so high that it makes me nervous.

959
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: But maybe that's something that I actually would like. I

960
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: mean obviously, like I like my I like my Real Housewives,

961
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: and I like but the stakes get high on that too,

962
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, it's not like bad

963
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: like yeah, drama, I mean yeah, and I yeah, I'm

964
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: just making you want to watch anything. Like maybe I

965
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: feel like I like, no, I could be a little no. No,

966
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: I do, I you know, because I do feel like

967
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: left out of the You do feel left out of

968
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 2: the conversation when there's shows like Traders and Love Island

969
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 2: that you feel like everybody's talking about and you can't

970
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: connect with them because you don't watch it right. And

971
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: so I feel like I could be a little better

972
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: at like not being so fucking cynical. I really want

973
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: you to look up Kidnation and watch it with and

974
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: SOO and acts like I'll try to find a link

975
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: to it because I mean it just just to see,

976
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: like what do you think about this? How how look

977
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: at how these kids are behaving? Do you think that's okay?

978
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: We're not okay?

979
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you might have to clear it with

980
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: your husband first.

981
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: Or like watch one first and then yeah, but I

982
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: think it's like valuable to watch just because I don't

983
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: know better than you know. They're also like like all

984
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: kids want to watch too is like, you know, like

985
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: little YouTube videos that are basically reality TV. Yeah. I

986
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: mean luckily my kids love shows and movies, and they'll

987
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: go through phases where that's all they watched. And so

988
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: just binged every like nine seasons of the Flash from

989
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: the CW. That's really sweet. That's really sweet. But then

990
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: in between, you know, when he doesn't have a show

991
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: to watch, it's you know, yeah, it's like and I'm like, oh,

992
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: well that's reality TV, like right, Like somebody somebody's like,

993
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: why do kids love to watch videos of like other

994
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: kids like opening presents? And then I heard the response

995
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: from someone else, go, why do we like to watch

996
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: people shop for houses on house Hunter and tell me

997
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: about it International house Hunter. Oh I love that show,

998
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And I was like, oh my god,

999
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: it is the same thing, Like that is the appeal,

1000
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: Like it's it's the same I do I did you

1001
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: judge them on International Househunters? Though?

1002
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: When they're like, oh, we only want to spend like

1003
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty dollars a month and we want

1004
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: four bedrooms a backyard, I'm like, get out of here.

1005
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: We want to be able to walk to the sand.

1006
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: Suck off. Yeah, get the fuck out of here, Get

1007
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: out of here. I can't relate. I can't relate. I

1008
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: cannot relate. Wait, before we go, our producers did a

1009
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: fun thing for us that I don't want to forget

1010
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: to fude. They asked, chat GBT, where is it? Oh

1011
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 2: my god, that's right. Our reality TV show taglines would

1012
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: be okay, wait, I wrote my own, Oh what would

1013
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: yours be? Yes? But I want to hear my chat

1014
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: GPT one. Okay, Well read me yours while I find it. Okay.

1015
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: I may play a Disney heroine, but if you cross me,

1016
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: I'll kick your fucking ass.

1017
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: That's so good, stupid, so stupid. Oh my god, that's okay.

1018
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: I want to hear the chat GPT one though. All right,

1019
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read you yours first. Okay. My voice is

1020
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: my weapon, and I'll use it to stand up for

1021
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: what's right. Okay, Oh okay. Well I liked the beginning

1022
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: part of it, but I wanted the end. I thought

1023
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: it was and I'll use it to crush you or something. Yeah.

1024
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: The end felt a little like I don't have to

1025
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: use chat GBT so far yours is a thousand times bad.

1026
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh I like this one. I'm like a

1027
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: cup of espresso, strong, dark and probably a little too

1028
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: much for you. Oh that's yours, that's yours, that's mine.

1029
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: That's oh because I have a similar one, which I

1030
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: don't know if what this says about you and me.

1031
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: So one of mine is I might be a little extra,

1032
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: but that's what makes me unforgettable. That's a little like wait,

1033
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: that's a little wait bland. I feel like that could

1034
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: be anybody. Wait here's uh? I feel like actually some

1035
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: of these are see this is I think people think

1036
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: I'm Amy Santiago in real life. These are Amy Santiago ones.

1037
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: I may love a good planner, but I'm not afraid

1038
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: to throw out the schedule when needed. I'm a Type

1039
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: A with a side of stass and a whole lot

1040
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: of coffee. I'm a Type A, but I'm a sea cup.

1041
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: That would be better. Sorry, I'm not here a sea

1042
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: cover or not I am, But I'm a sea cup.

1043
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: That's better. I like that one. That's better. That's better?

1044
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: See my god? Should I be writer? Should I start writing?

1045
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 2: You are stupid jokes? Yes, you're a writer. Oh my god. Okay,

1046
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to get better than I'm

1047
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: a Type A, but I'm a sea cup. So thanks

1048
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: for joining us this week. You guys, see you next time,

1049
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,920
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1050
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1051
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1052
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Speaker 1: future episode?

1053
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,920
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1054
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,080
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1055
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1056
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1058
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1059
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1060
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,680
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1061
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1062
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,720
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1063
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1064
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1065
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,840
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1066
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