WEBVTT - Tech News: A Bad PR Week for AI

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. He there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio and how the Tech Area.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the tech News for Tuesday, February twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>two twenty three, and we're going to start this episode

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<v Speaker 1>off with a news segment that I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>call Blame the Robots. So the Washington Post published an

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<v Speaker 1>article by pranschu Verma titled AI is starting to pick

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<v Speaker 1>who gets laid off, which is perhaps a bit sensationalized

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<v Speaker 1>once you read the actual story, but maybe only a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit sensationalized. All right, So here's how this all unfolds.

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<v Speaker 1>There are software packages and various services and algorithms that

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<v Speaker 1>some hiring managers rely upon in order to do kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a pass filter across job applicants in order to

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<v Speaker 1>narrow down the search. There are companies that offer that

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<v Speaker 1>very service, and it starts to make sense if you're

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<v Speaker 1>hiring at a company that gets a lot of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say that you're a popular company, you have

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<v Speaker 1>fairly rare job openings, and you get lots, like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of applicants per job that you list, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably need some help whittling down the applicant list to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a manageable pool of potential hires, right like

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<v Speaker 1>you need something to separate the cream from everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not easy to do, especially at really high volumes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so these services and software packages essentially reduce applicants

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<v Speaker 1>down to data points and they kind of have to.

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<v Speaker 1>And depending on how tough that filter is, folks can

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<v Speaker 1>get weeded out. Sometimes a lot of folks. May you

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<v Speaker 1>get down to, like less than a dozen applicants out

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands has to be pretty brutal. Well, this article

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<v Speaker 1>postulates that we could see the reverse come into play

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<v Speaker 1>as well, that a company might lean on similar software

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<v Speaker 1>and services to identify the people who contribute the least

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<v Speaker 1>to the company or perform at a level that's considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be below their peers. Therefore, they could be candidates

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<v Speaker 1>for layoffs when the corporate overlords deemed that it is

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<v Speaker 1>time to reduce headcount in these troubling times. And therein

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<v Speaker 1>lies the story, right that an algorithm might determine that

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<v Speaker 1>you are expendable instead of your human boss. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am aware that I'm making an assumption here that your

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<v Speaker 1>boss is in fact human, some program, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>freaking robot has determined that you're getting laid off. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds positively dystopia, doesn't it. And with big tech companies

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<v Speaker 1>laying off thousands of folks over this year and the

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<v Speaker 1>previous year, it's easy to imagine managers shrugging off the

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility of telling someone they no longer have a job

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<v Speaker 1>by leaving it to the old zeros and ones of

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<v Speaker 1>a presumably objective and emotionless system. But this in turn

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<v Speaker 1>brings up other problems. As I have mentioned in tons

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<v Speaker 1>of episodes, one of the many problems we have in

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<v Speaker 1>AI systems can come down to unintended bias within the

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<v Speaker 1>system itself. So if the system is biased, it could

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<v Speaker 1>end up targeting employees of specific ethnicities or backgrounds. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Vermat makes this argument in the Washington Post article. He

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<v Speaker 1>says that if the algorithm were to, say, determine that

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<v Speaker 1>people of color have a higher incidence rate of leaving

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs, that a person of color is more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to leave their job than say, they're white colleagues, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then the system might naturally start to target employees who

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be people of color for the purposes of layoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you're getting into very dangerous legal and ethical territory.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as if you're targeting these specific people because of

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<v Speaker 1>their race. Also, I'm not sure how well an algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>can actually judge a person's contributions. Presumably stuff from employee

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<v Speaker 1>reviews and such would play a big part, But in

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<v Speaker 1>highly collaborative work, a person could act as the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of lynch pen that keeps a team working really well together,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they themselves don't have the highest numbers on

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the deliverables are. So in my opinion, relying on

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<v Speaker 1>AI to make or even guide decisions regarding layoffs is

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<v Speaker 1>really a bad move all around. It can make sense

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<v Speaker 1>in the applicant phase, but in layoffs I would say

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<v Speaker 1>avoid it. It doesn't look good for the company. It

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<v Speaker 1>could ultimately lead to choices that will harm the overall

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<v Speaker 1>organization in the long run. In this article, Verma mentions

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<v Speaker 1>that while folks at Google wondered if perhaps they had

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<v Speaker 1>been laid off due to an algorithm choosing them because

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<v Speaker 1>there didn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to

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<v Speaker 1>the layoffs, the company denies making use of anything of

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<v Speaker 1>the sort. There's kind of a distinct lack of cases

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<v Speaker 1>where we know that an algorithm definitively played a part

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<v Speaker 1>in layoffs. However, Verma in the article also cites a

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<v Speaker 1>survey that showed ninety eight percent of HR managers there

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<v Speaker 1>were three hundred of them participating in the survey, had

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<v Speaker 1>said that they plan to rely on software and algorithms

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<v Speaker 1>to help make such decisions about layoffs this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>even if you were to argue it hasn't happened yet,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's going to happen real soon. My

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<v Speaker 1>guess is we'll see some high cases where some company

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<v Speaker 1>relies too heavily on algorithms and it'll come back to

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<v Speaker 1>haunt them, perhaps only in PR, but it will be

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<v Speaker 1>a big blowback, and then maybe then we'll start to

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<v Speaker 1>see people form best practices around the whole thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>still think it feels a bit like shirking responsibility in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, If the top brass decides that layoffs are necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>then they are obligated to make each and every layoff

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<v Speaker 1>decision transparent and honest, I think they owe their employees

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<v Speaker 1>as much. And it's really infuriating because you'll see managers

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<v Speaker 1>who get a directive saying you have to apply this

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<v Speaker 1>artificial bell curve to the employees who are reporting to you.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard a story about that just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, where a director actually essentially was fired for

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<v Speaker 1>refusing to follow that because it arbitrarily requires managers to

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<v Speaker 1>assign people as low performers even if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any low performers on your team, and that just again

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<v Speaker 1>seems inherently unfair. I feel like relying on AI to

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<v Speaker 1>make these choices also is inherently unfair and can miss

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<v Speaker 1>some really important factors that may not reduce down to

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<v Speaker 1>pure data. But we've got a lot of other AI

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<v Speaker 1>news to get through today. A lot of it is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. And our next story comes from

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt University. The Peabody College at Vendorbilt, and that college's

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<v Speaker 1>Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion send out a message

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<v Speaker 1>to students in the wake of the terrible shooting at

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State University. And clearly this was a delicate task

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<v Speaker 1>that needed empathy and support. I needed a message that

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<v Speaker 1>showed that Vanderbilt's staff have students and their welfare at

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<v Speaker 1>the top. Of their priority list, so of course they

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<v Speaker 1>use chat GPT to help craft the message. This pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much sent me spiraling, y'all, because passing the buck to

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<v Speaker 1>AI to handle things that are this important, things that

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<v Speaker 1>intrinsically involve a very human connection, it just feels beyond

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<v Speaker 1>shortsighted and crass to me. At best, you could say

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<v Speaker 1>this was a poor decision, but at worst it implies

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<v Speaker 1>that leadership has little to no regard for students and

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<v Speaker 1>instead we'll just lean on the robots to handle the

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<v Speaker 1>tough stuff. Anyway, the end of the message contained the

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<v Speaker 1>line paraphrased from open ais Chat GBTAI Language Model Personal Communication,

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<v Speaker 1>and at least the word paraphrase indicates that there was

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<v Speaker 1>human involvement in taking the generated message and shaping it

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<v Speaker 1>properly for students. So it was a collaborative effort, you

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<v Speaker 1>could say. But still, the fact that staff tapped AI

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place to help with such a sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>matter doesn't look good. It looks like people who want

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid the hard stuff, and hard stuff isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>human connection stuff, the stuff that has incredible impact on

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<v Speaker 1>emotion and mental health, whether it's layoffs or counseling people

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of a violent act like the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Michigan. That is the wrong way

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<v Speaker 1>to use AI, in my opinion. That is inherently the

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<v Speaker 1>realm of humanity and to off source that to AI's

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<v Speaker 1>it shows such a huge disregard for the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are ultimately the recipients of those messages that I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's unconscionable. Now the Associate Dean and Assistant Dean who

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<v Speaker 1>are part of this process have both stepped back from

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<v Speaker 1>that office of equity, diversity and inclusion, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>for the best, but yeah, this was a really bad

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<v Speaker 1>use case for AI. Last week, the representatives from around

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<v Speaker 1>the world attended the Summit on Responsible Artificial Intelligence in

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<v Speaker 1>the Military Domain or re aim our AIM and we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how incorporating AI into military processes and hardware

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<v Speaker 1>raises really difficult questions regarding safety, accountability, escalation, and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Reps from many countries, including the United States and China,

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<v Speaker 1>but excluding Russia, which wasn't invited and Ukraine did not attend.

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<v Speaker 1>They were invited, but clearly have other things going on

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. Anyway, these representatives all met to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the issues of AI in its role in military operations.

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<v Speaker 1>At the conclusion of the summit, all but one of

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<v Speaker 1>the representatives of the countries that attended signed an agree

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<v Speaker 1>to commit to developing AI military applications that quote do

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<v Speaker 1>not undermine international security, stability and accountability end quote. So

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<v Speaker 1>what was the one nation that abstained. That would be Israel. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>don't like heap tons of criticism on Israel, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are critics who say this entire meeting was largely for show,

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<v Speaker 1>because according to critics, there was nothing in the summit

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<v Speaker 1>or the agreement that is legally binding for any of

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<v Speaker 1>the countries involved. So, in other words, the critics are

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the reps are all like, yeah, yeah, totally

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<v Speaker 1>AI killing people would really be bad. Let's totally not

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but they would have no real accountability to

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<v Speaker 1>follow through on that promise. Further, the agreement did not

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<v Speaker 1>include certain AI assisted or controlled systems that are already

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<v Speaker 1>in use, like AI controlled drones, And so there's concern

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<v Speaker 1>that this agreement, while represents little more than just putting

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<v Speaker 1>on a show to say, yes, we're all aware of

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<v Speaker 1>this and it is a bad thing. Now, Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>heavily suspect that several countries, including the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>also China, will continue incorporating AI into military applications, including

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<v Speaker 1>weaponized AI. I would be absolutely shocked if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>continue down that pathway, because there's a very real fear

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<v Speaker 1>that if you don't do it, the other guy will,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there will be an AI gap. Now maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I only think that because I'm a child of the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and eighties and I saw how this very similar

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<v Speaker 1>scenario played out with nuclear armaments, because boy howdy, was

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<v Speaker 1>that a thing. So I would love for us to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the mistakes of the past. But I really am

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<v Speaker 1>skeptical that that's going to happen, because again, unless everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is hell accountable and agrees to not further that work,

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<v Speaker 1>someone is going to. And if someone's going to, then

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is going to because otherwise you are at a disadvantage. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>with all that doom and gloom out of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. When we come back, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got some more news items to talk about. We're back now.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have a couple more AI stories, but these

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<v Speaker 1>are not quite as apocalyptic as the ones we started

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<v Speaker 1>off with. The one is that Clark's world magazine, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been publishing fantasy and science fiction stories online since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, has temporarily stopped accepting submissions. Why

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently the magazine has received too many AI generated submissions,

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<v Speaker 1>and until they have access to better tools to detect

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of things, they have chosen to hold off

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<v Speaker 1>accepting anymore. That's both understandable and it stinks. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>I think the magazine made the wrong call here. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is the right call, but rather it stinks

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<v Speaker 1>because there are genuine authors and would be authors out

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<v Speaker 1>there who have great stories to tell, and they're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>an outlet closed off to them, at least for now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all thanks to AI generated stories. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>think in most cases the AI generated stuff has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a collaborator kind of relationship, because in my own

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<v Speaker 1>experience the stories generated by AI they aren't very good. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>grammatically they work, and you know, you get some interesting

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions and stuff, but the actual stories tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty mundane and uninteresting. I imagine that most folks who

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<v Speaker 1>are using AI are leaning on it for stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>generating initial ideas, maybe shaping a certain part of the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative at least any stories that are difficult to determine, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this was made by AI, right, if they haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>any massaging, it often is pretty easy to detect that

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<v Speaker 1>it's AI, or the very least, it's easy to detect

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a very good story and it wouldn't pass

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<v Speaker 1>the bar for publication. But still, here's another example of

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<v Speaker 1>how AI can end up harming creative types, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>from the unauthorized copying of their style or displacing them

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<v Speaker 1>from the creator community. Insider reports something that I think

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<v Speaker 1>most folks already have a pretty good handle on, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the emergence and reception to chat GPT probably

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<v Speaker 1>means we're going to see a whole bunch of copycats

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<v Speaker 1>in the very near future. And to be clear, chatbots

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<v Speaker 1>have been a thing for years. I'm sure you're all

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that. In fact, someone who is once in

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<v Speaker 1>the business of reporting on tech, a person whom I

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<v Speaker 1>know and respect and like very very much, ended up

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<v Speaker 1>working at a company that developed sophisticated chatbots. But these

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<v Speaker 1>were tools that were intended for narrow use cases, something

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<v Speaker 1>that would work well within the confines of a particular

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<v Speaker 1>company's services and processes. The stuff we're seeing now is

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<v Speaker 1>made to be more general purpose, and with that comes

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<v Speaker 1>the problems of reliability and accuracy as well as transparency.

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<v Speaker 1>It is easier, not easy, mind you, but easier to

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<v Speaker 1>build a reliable and accurate tool that works within an

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<v Speaker 1>enclosed system, like the customer service arm of a consumer

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<v Speaker 1>facing company. But it's another thing when it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>free range AI chat bot. And meanwhile, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>runs the company that made chat GPT has said repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>that he thinks chat GPT isn't that good, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least it is far from perfect. And yet we're currently

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<v Speaker 1>living through a buzzy, height heightened age of chat GPT

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<v Speaker 1>and its peers like like Barred from Google. Tech Runch

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<v Speaker 1>has a piece titled the AI photo app trend has

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<v Speaker 1>already fizzled, new data shows and you should totally check

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<v Speaker 1>out this article. The author of the piece, Sarah Perez,

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<v Speaker 1>lays out some of the data, including download numbers and revenue,

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<v Speaker 1>and she shows that while the text to image AI

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<v Speaker 1>tools initially made a really big splash when they started

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge, particularly late last year, excitement has dropped off

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<v Speaker 1>considerably since then. There's been a lot of backlash in

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<v Speaker 1>the space, ranging from artists who are understandably upset to

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<v Speaker 1>see their style co opted by AI, to users who

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<v Speaker 1>are concerned that the tools can create inappropriate images far

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<v Speaker 1>too readily, and that any restrictions that are designed to

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<v Speaker 1>limit that sort of stuff aren't always the best. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>those actually played a big part in cooling this trend,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it was just that folks were getting tired

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<v Speaker 1>of the shiny new thing and they had already moved on,

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<v Speaker 1>I am uncertain, but my guests is that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see the space continue to evolve, perhaps with fewer

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<v Speaker 1>players as this goes on, if some of them find

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<v Speaker 1>it too difficult to cover costs with the declining revenues.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think AI generated imagery is going to

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<v Speaker 1>just go away at this point. Now that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>one fun story, or at least in my opinion, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fun that relates to the AI generated imagery involves a

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<v Speaker 1>robot from Carnegie Mellon University. So it's a robot arm

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<v Speaker 1>that has the name Frieda, which yes, is both a

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<v Speaker 1>tribute to Frieda the artist, and is an acronym that

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<v Speaker 1>stands for Framework and Robotics Initiative for developing arts, and

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<v Speaker 1>it also generates images based on text prompts. Only in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, the images it makes are not digital images.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not computer generated images. They are real world paintings.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a robot that paints with actual brushes and

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<v Speaker 1>actual paint It creates works of art based off text

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<v Speaker 1>input and directions. According to tech Spot, it takes about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour from the point where the robot receives input

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of the text to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>it begins to paint, because it actually has to plot

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<v Speaker 1>out how it's going to physically paint this. How are

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<v Speaker 1>the brushstrokes going to go, how long are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to go, how much pressure is going to be used?

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<v Speaker 1>What style is it going to follow? And that's very

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<v Speaker 1>understandable because as we all know, there are different strokes

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<v Speaker 1>for different folks, because the world don't move to the

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<v Speaker 1>beat of just one drum. Shout out to me if

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<v Speaker 1>you get that reference. Anyway, The roboticists and engineers are

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<v Speaker 1>quick to say that Frieda isn't an artist. FRIEDA is

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<v Speaker 1>a collaborator. FRIEDA is not creative. FRIEDA just follows instructions

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<v Speaker 1>as best it can pay the subject of the art

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<v Speaker 1>in the style that was dictated by its collaborator. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought this was a neat take on AI

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<v Speaker 1>generated images. Somehow it feels different that because it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a physical painting. It's something that you could hold or

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<v Speaker 1>put into a frame and hang on a wall, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something you could rip apart in rage as

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<v Speaker 1>robots get another art commission and you don't. Now, finally

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<v Speaker 1>we're off of the AI stories and we can get

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<v Speaker 1>to everything else. So next up. Part of the big

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<v Speaker 1>news this week is Meta really shook things up on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday announcing that the company is introducing a subscription service

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<v Speaker 1>called Meta Verified. It's just in the testing phase now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the plan is to widely deploy it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll see if things go poorly in the test

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<v Speaker 1>markets that Meta is trying out at the moment. But essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>this subscription service is a verification tool. Users would have

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<v Speaker 1>to submit proof that they are who they claim to be,

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<v Speaker 1>using government issued ID for example, and in return for

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<v Speaker 1>twelve bucks a month or fifteen bucks a month if

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing it on iOS or Android, because Google and

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<v Speaker 1>Apple take their own cut of the fee. You then

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<v Speaker 1>get a little blue badge on Facebook and or Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>saying you're bona fide. On top of that, badge subscribers

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<v Speaker 1>will also have access to services that are meant to

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<v Speaker 1>protect against imposter accounts. They're supposed to get better customer support,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're supposed to get improved discoverability when folks are

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<v Speaker 1>actually searching for them, which am I opinion, is stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that should really be standard for all users, whether they're

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<v Speaker 1>paying a subscription or not. I think it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bullpucky to say one of the benefits to verification is

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<v Speaker 1>that meta will make sure other folks aren't trying to

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<v Speaker 1>impersonate you. I mean, arguably, this is a bigger problem

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<v Speaker 1>for notable folks like celebrities and brands. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking me, I'm talking real celebrities. I have no illusions

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm a celebrity, but I've still seen plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>instances of friends being impersonated as someone has either gained

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<v Speaker 1>access to their account or created a copy account in

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt to phish for data. Like this is still

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<v Speaker 1>something that affects the average person on these platforms. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just for the celebrities. But yeah, I'm that's facing

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<v Speaker 1>issues with the revenue for a lot of different reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not surprising that the company is now introducing

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<v Speaker 1>the subscription feature. It just feels like the quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>benefits of the service are things that really everyone on

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<v Speaker 1>the platform should have access to by default. Maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just being unreasonable here. Today Microsoft will attempt to defend

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<v Speaker 1>its planned acquisition of Activision Blizzard in the EU in

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting that's behind closed doors and Brussels. Previously, EU

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<v Speaker 1>regulators indicated that they would block the purchase, saying it

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<v Speaker 1>would result in less competition in the video game space

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<v Speaker 1>and allow Microsoft to engage in actively anti competitive practices,

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<v Speaker 1>such as preventing other platforms like Sony PlayStation from having

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<v Speaker 1>access to popular video game franchises like Call of Duty. Earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft Reps signed a deal with Nintendo Reps that legally

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<v Speaker 1>binds Microsoft to bring Call of Duty titles to Nintendo

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<v Speaker 1>platforms for ten years, and further that all titles will

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<v Speaker 1>be available on Nintendo platforms the same day that they

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<v Speaker 1>come out for Xbox platforms, with quote full feature and

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<v Speaker 1>content parity end quote between these versions, meaning Nintendo won't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be happy with a watered down version of

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<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty. It's going to get the real thing,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Xboxes. This puts pressure on Sony to make

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<v Speaker 1>a similar agreement or else Microsoft could argue before the

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<v Speaker 1>EU regulators that Microsoft has made attempts to ensure fairness

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<v Speaker 1>between the various console companies, but Sony isn't playing ball

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose in an effort to scuttle the deal, surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>at least to me, the Communications Workers of America the CWA,

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<v Speaker 1>a union organization here in the US, has also urged

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<v Speaker 1>the EU to approve the acquisition deal. They say that

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft has been more receptive to attempts at unionizing than

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<v Speaker 1>Activision Blizzard has, and that without Microsoft's oversight, employees and

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<v Speaker 1>Activision could find themselves facing tough managerial resistance to unionizing.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time you hear this, a decision has probably

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<v Speaker 1>been made one way or the other. But as I

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<v Speaker 1>write this episode, it has yet to be announced, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting is behind closed doors, so it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a little while before we find out what the results are.

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<v Speaker 1>Corporate employees at Amazon are looking at decreased compensation this

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<v Speaker 1>year like an actual pay now. The reason for that

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<v Speaker 1>is because some of their compensation is tied up in

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<v Speaker 1>stock units, so as part of their salary, Amazon corporate

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<v Speaker 1>workers get stock in Amazon. However, Amazon stock price has

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<v Speaker 1>taken some massive hits over the last year, and that

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<v Speaker 1>means that the stocks awarded to corporate employees are worth

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<v Speaker 1>much less than they were a year earlier. That's particularly

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<v Speaker 1>tough because when Amazon structures its salary deals, they are

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<v Speaker 1>at least partly based on the idea of the stock

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<v Speaker 1>having a value of around one hundred and seventy dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per share. So, in other words, that's part of the

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<v Speaker 1>justification of yes, your salary is X amount of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>instead of why, because you're also being compensated by stock

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<v Speaker 1>units that are considered to be worth one hundred seventy

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per share. However, at the time of recording, Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>stock is currently at ninety four dollars fifty eight cents

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<v Speaker 1>per share, so a little more than half of what

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<v Speaker 1>it was when these salary figures were first calculated. So

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<v Speaker 1>if the cash part of your salary is dependent upon

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the rest of your compensation is coming

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of stocks that were calculated at one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy bucks per share, it means you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>significantly less per year on top of that, the company

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<v Speaker 1>has been laying off thousands of employees. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if there were some managers over at Amazon who

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<v Speaker 1>were giving wistful glances toward chat GPT when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>time to communicate these issues to their team members. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a couple more stories to talk about, including

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<v Speaker 1>one that's going to get me all head up again.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break, and so are you. But we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back. Okay, here's where Jonathan gets upset for multiple reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So our next story is that torrent Freak

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<v Speaker 1>reports that filmmakers are demanding to know the identities of

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<v Speaker 1>certain reddit members who have been active in subreddits and

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<v Speaker 1>talked about content piracy like the illegal downloading and distribution

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<v Speaker 1>of films and such. Hey, y'all, here we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've been through this a few times because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the good old napster days. All right, So the

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<v Speaker 1>filmmakers want to hold pirates accountable and that is understandable, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't want their films to be pirated,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes sense, Like this is not just art,

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<v Speaker 1>its commerce, and to see people get access to something

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<v Speaker 1>without legitimately paying for it. That is a problem. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the arguments that filmmakers and studios make are at best facetious.

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<v Speaker 1>Now by that, I mean you'll hear filmmakers and studios

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<v Speaker 1>cite huge figures for damages, like millions and millions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>that these in damages that these companies and these filmmakers

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<v Speaker 1>experience due to piracy. But the truth of the matter is,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot say that with any kind of certainty. Those damages,

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<v Speaker 1>on the face of it, assume that the people who

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<v Speaker 1>pirated the content would have otherwise purchased a ticket, or

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to a service or whatever, and so piracy, based

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>on this argument, amounts to lost revenue. Thus the damages right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have sold x number of tickets, except that

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<v Speaker 1>this number of people pirated it, and therefore we're out

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<v Speaker 1>x number of dollars. Except you don't know that. You

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<v Speaker 1>do not know if the person who pirated something would

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<v Speaker 1>have otherwise sought a legitimate way to view the material.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know that you actually lost out on money.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that person would just have gone without seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>at all. So that's not I mean, you can't you

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<v Speaker 1>can't accuse people of not going to see a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like, I haven't gone to see Aunt Man in

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the Quantum Maniacs or whatever it is. But Marvel can't

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<v Speaker 1>come to me and say, hey, you failed to see

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<v Speaker 1>the movie at the theater, so we're going to find you.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make any sense. So you can't argue that

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<v Speaker 1>the pirates would have otherwise gone and paid legitimate money

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<v Speaker 1>to go and see stuff. Therefore the companies out of

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<v Speaker 1>money because maybe they wouldn't maybe they just wouldn't see

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it at all. So pirting a film or a series

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<v Speaker 1>is not the same thing as someone stealing like a

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>physical something like a TV from a big box store. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a physical item. There is only one of

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<v Speaker 1>that specific television in the world, and once it's gone

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<v Speaker 1>from an inventory, it is gone. It is not magically

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<v Speaker 1>replaced by a digital duplicate. Right. That is something where

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at that and say, yes, this amounts

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<v Speaker 1>to real losses. That's a lost sale, if not to

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<v Speaker 1>the person who stole it, to person who would have

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>ultimately bought it. That you could say, and you could

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>point to that and say these are real damages. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot do that with digital media. The government accountability of this,

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<v Speaker 1>or the United States agrees with me, you cannot do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it amount to damages? Is there a loss of revenue? Undoubtedly, yes,

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>there is definitely a loss of revenue, but there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way to determine the extent of that. And because filmmakers

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and studios depend upon these inflated numbers that represent the

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote damages that they incurred as a result of

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>piracy to try and become like a bludgeon against pirates,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to cow people into avoiding piracy, it unfairly targets people

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>who may or may not have actually caused any damages

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<v Speaker 1>at all. You just don't know. That's the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that because you don't know, you cannot make firm claims

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of damages. And yet time and again we see filmmakers

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and studios do this. Now, that is part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I should also mention that Reddit is resisting these urges

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<v Speaker 1>to hand over user data. And just in case you

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>were curious, if you were to do something like I

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know, use a VPN and create a unique email

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>address and only use your VPN when you're accessing something

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>like Reddit, and you register for Reddit using the unique

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>email address, that isn't tied to anything else of yours.

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>That could be a way to avoid imperial entanglements. That

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<v Speaker 1>being said, now, I say that because I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>seeing companies go super hard against people. But I also

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>firmly believe piracy is wrong. Okay, I do not condone

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>piracy at all. I pay for the content I consume

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>or I go without. I even bought a cheap region

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>free DVD player so that I can import DVDs from

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the UK for series that just never get released over

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>here in the US. Mitchell and Webb. Look, I'm looking

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>at you, but I still end up buying the actual stuff.

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't just try and pirate it. I condemn piracy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also condemn an industry throwing its power around

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>making assertions that it simply cannot support with evidence, at

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the cost of people who may not have ever gone

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to see your quantum maniac ant movie. Okay, I'm done

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>with that. Finally, Hey, do you remember when you were

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<v Speaker 1>a kid and you've got that meant in the box

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>original iPhone, the two thousand and seven iPhone. Can you

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>remember how excited you were, but part of you thought,

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I shouldn't open this because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a collector's item. No. Well, of course not because you're

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>a sensible person. But it turns out if you had

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>been less sensible and chose not to use the thing

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you've got for the purpose that it was intended, you

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>could have made some crazy money. Why because at an

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>auction this past Sunday, and unopened original two thousand and

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>seven iPhone sold for more than sixty three thousand dollars.

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>When that phone came out, it cost five hundred ninety

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>nine bucks. Now, if we adjust that for inflation today,

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that would be the same amount as around eight hundred

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and sixty of today's dollars, so eight hundred sixty bucks.

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's sold for sixty three thousand dollars at auction.

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Actually it's sold for sixty three thousand, three hundred fifty

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>six dollars and forty cents at auction, which is really specific.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't typically see it go into the sense like that.

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was a winning bid that came from overseas

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was a currency conversion thing. But if we

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>adjust the iPhone for inflation, then the value of the

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>phone increased by nearly seventy four times. If we don't

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>adjust for inflation, the value increased by one hundred times.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>So why the heck didn't the person who owned this

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven iPhone ever open the box? Well, actually,

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>there is a sensible answer to this. You see, back

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>when the iPhone first came out in the US, and

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.919
<v Speaker 1>you may have forgotten about this, the Apple made an

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>exclusive deal with AT and T. It became the exclusive

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>carrier for the iPhone in the US. And the woman

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>who had received this particular iPhone as a gift way

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>back in two thousand and seven, a woman named Karen Green, Well,

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>she had a service contract with Verizon, and it would

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>have cost her a lot of money to cancel out

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of that contract and then start up with AT and T.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole hassle. I don't know how many people

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>have had to go through that process, but it can

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>sometimes be really frustrating. So the iPhone that she received

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work on Verizon, her carrier, So Green just never

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>opened the darn thing. Instead, she kept it and kept

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>it in good condition, and I'm sure she's very glad

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>she did. Now. I guess if there is a moral

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>to the story, it's if you do not want that

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>nice tech gift, that someone gave to you. Keep it unopened.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>You never know when it'll be worth sixty grand. Just

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't hold your breath about it. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it for the tech News for Tuesday, February twenty first,

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, twenty three. Hope you enjoyed this episode and

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