1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: Rob Gene. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: It was a story that came out today or was 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: it earlier today? Yeah, about Chador Sanders. And this was 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: interesting for all the people who bought us just Shador 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Sanders jerseys, Browns jerseys. 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: You mean Barry Sanders, Yeah, Barry Sanders Sanders. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: Uh. 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: After reading this story, I'm figuring that they could wear 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: the jersey with their Baller Big Baller brand. 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: That's neverloss. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: Those two go together now loggy at least appairly, that's 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: what it sounded like for me. 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: Yet it's not looking good if you're a shaduor Sanders 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: fan right now, because, as you guys know, it's been 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 4: well reported that he ended up being the QB three 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: in Cleveland right after they traded away Kenny Pickett. Dylan 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: Gabriel was instilled at the backup. Schaduur was at number three, 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: which meant that they could prevent him from going to 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: the practice squad and getting claimed for another team. But 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: more than anything, the reason why you have a guy 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: your third string quarterback historically is so that he can 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: run your scout team. 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: He's gonna get reps upon reps upon reps. 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: It might not be your system, but he's getting live 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 4: reps in practice that he wouldn't ordinarily get as the backup. Well, 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: on Thursday, reporters in Cleveland notice that hey, this week 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: they're preparing for the Baltimore Ravens and newcomer Bailey Zappi, 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: he's only been here about two weeks, is running the scout. 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: Team Bailey's and Queam Zappi. 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: According to at least one reporter, shaduor Sander did not 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: take a single rep in any team drill whatsoever. Well, 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: once that became a talking point, reporters asked Bill Musgrave 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: about it, and here's how he justified Shador not getting 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: scouting reps. 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say it's a little bit, it's a little 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 5: bit different, and it's it's exciting because those guys do 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 5: take pride in getting the defense ready. They want to 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: do a good job of replicating the opponent's offense, and 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 5: at the same time, they want to try to relate 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 5: any play that they get to our game plan for 48 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 5: that week too, so they can feel like they can 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 5: get a little double duty there. 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 6: All right, there's the explanation. Does it make sense to you, 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 6: because none of it makes sense to me. But you know, 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 6: I haven't really understood what they've been doing since the 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 6: beginning of this. I mean, I do, well, would you 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 6: like to go? 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: Well, I just they they're telling you without telling you 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: that they don't view him as a starting quarterback in 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean, what else could it be if 58 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: you really thought you had something, even a diamond in 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: a row of why wouldn't you give him some reps? 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: They wouldn't give him reps during the preseason right camp, 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: they wouldn't give the reps there with the first team. 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: They didn't give him reps during training camp. Like, like what, 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense? It does it hurt you to 64 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: give somebody reps? Is at the end of the world. 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: To give them some first team reps with the first team. 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. To hold on to a guy 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: that obviously you don't believe really is going to be 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL. 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 7: See, that's why I jump in and say, and I 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 7: totally get what you're saying, Like because just on the optics, 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 7: if you fail from Mars and I told you what 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 7: was happening, you'd be like, oh, they must not like 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 7: the guy. But what makes it strength? A few things 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 7: make it strength For me? Still round, like why won't 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 7: they release them? And maybe it's coming, maybe you know 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 7: two three, four weeks from now he does? 77 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: Who knows? But maybe can I give you one reason? 78 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: You hold on to him and wait for somebody to 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: get hurt, like a quarterback or some situation, and then 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: he becomes a little more valuable. 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 7: Well, you're making him unvaluable while you keep you keep 82 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 7: demoting him, you know what I mean. 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: And he's not this Alex Third, which wasn't. 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: But there's always some one man's chicken is another man's gumbo. 85 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like you know what I'm saying, Like, he's 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: still the unknown, right, but I holding onto that one 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: preseason game that dangle out there. 88 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: For you ignore the other one. 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 7: Yes, uh So one reason why I say that is 90 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up from an outside looking 91 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 7: in everything we're we hear he's supposed to be doing 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 7: as far as he's good in practice. We had the 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 7: coach come out, Oh man Keve Svanski, Oh he's he's 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 7: just a great guy. I love this kid. GM's come out. 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 7: Some of the older Vets have come out braved about right. 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 7: But I'm saying, so check it might even mad at that. 97 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: Check. They've said that we. 98 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 7: Saw him in the preseason game when he actually had 99 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 7: players who might be in the NFL. 100 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: He looked good, in fact, he looked really good. 101 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 7: Then we saw him with a bunch of guys who 102 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 7: are about to be working at All State Insurance in 103 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 7: a minute, and he looked bad, which a lot of 104 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 7: guys might. And so my thing is, and he's done 105 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 7: what he's supposed to do to be in a position now. 106 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 7: The way things work, we know in the NFL, Dylan 107 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 7: Gabriel is our third round pick, and they're too close 108 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 7: neck and neck. We're going with our third round pick. 109 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 7: I'm not even mad at that. No, if you're neck 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 7: and neck, that's what they're what I'm saying. 111 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: If you really believe that he's better I've given you 112 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: plenty of examples. You could skip over Dylan Gabriel if 113 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: you door's real. 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. He would have had to been 115 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 7: headed up, shoulders above him. 116 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: He wasn't. 117 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel looked really good his game out there in 118 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 7: the preseason. So if I picked you, I feel you're 119 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 7: a little older, maybe a little more mature, and you 120 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 7: and you looked good out there, then you're gonna get 121 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 7: that spot. I'm not even mad, but collectively, I just 122 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 7: don't get what that quarterback room is doing. Again, go back, 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 7: you give de Sean Watson all the money and all 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 7: the bagage to boom. That doesn't work out, Okay, Then 125 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 7: you go and draft for Kenny Pickins, which was like, okay, 126 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 7: that's your saying that that mean got right? I mean trade, 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, trade for Kenny Pickins. You're like, that's the 128 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 7: guy you're going to get. 129 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: But what happened They got dead draft capital back because 130 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback got injured, right, so now you had an 131 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: extra quarterback. 132 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: And then they were like, whoa, all right, if we 133 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: have uh, if. 134 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Flacco and we got the young guy, whatever, 135 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: now we can get our fifth round pick back right, and. 136 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett was hurt. 137 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 7: He didn't even play right, But you're speaking proactive like later, 138 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, in real time, they got Kenny Pickett like 139 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 7: that's our guy, Like that was the first guy. 140 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: Then once he got hurt and then he didn't play. 141 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: But I'm saying you brought him in as if that 142 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: was the answer. No, he was going to know that guy, 143 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't answer. And if he. 144 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 7: Played enough, and when they saw him, they said, once 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 7: he gets back injury, we got our guys. 146 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: He didn't play. He didn't play. 147 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 7: You know, I'm saying if he would have done enough 148 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 7: that they saw practice in the film once, they would 149 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 7: be like, that's our guess. 150 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: They decided where they're going, which is to me. 151 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, They're like, we're not throwing a toweling on 152 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: the season. Okay, coaches and GM's their future rides on 153 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: on the team as well. They had a bad year 154 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: last year. The worst thing they could do is put 155 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback out there. Get their heads handed to them. 156 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hear about DeShawn Watson getting healthy and 157 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: all that and the elephant in the room is that 158 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: you see video of DeShawn Watson moving around now and 159 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: eventually he is going to play with all the money 160 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: they still owe him. So that's why I think in 161 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: reality they're they're doing what they're doing saying the Shawn's 162 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: going to play, and maybe that's after Joe Flacco holds 163 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: it down for this year and they hold on to 164 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Shador until somebody comes knocking. That's what I think because 165 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't see you're playing for the Browns, but I 166 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: don't see it and I. 167 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 7: Hear you because they have so many quarterbacks. Now, they 168 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 7: got this other guy, zippy Zippity do dies zippity a. 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: Now's it? My? 170 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 7: Oh my, what a wonderful day your son. 171 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks coming your way, zippity dude. 172 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: So they got blue birreing the whole sauce should into fists. 173 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Okay, what's that? Could you find that? A? 174 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: Well? 175 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: What is that? I guess that is a funky flashback Friday. Man. 176 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 7: My whole point is that cored that Brown's culture quarterback room. 177 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 7: They don't know what they're doing. And I told you 178 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 7: that anytime they think they're about to do something, you 179 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 7: need to do the opposite because they had a quarterback 180 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 7: since Bernie Czar. 181 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Whatever they about, whatever you 182 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: know we should do. Actually did want a playoffs and 183 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: they know they did. They got away from him, which 184 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: is again what they shouldn't have done. 185 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: They blew it. They made a mistake. 186 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 7: They stayed blowing it like it's birthday candle. They always 187 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 7: blowing them out. K K Cake Cake, what is that 188 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 7: with you? 189 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: What is this power one oh six? What is this 190 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: real ninety two three? What is this hot ninety seven? 191 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: Whenever I hear cake I can't help. 192 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 7: But because we know where you are when you hear 193 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: that song, mentally, yes, it puts you back in the 194 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 7: magic city mode, which maybe that that what you need. 195 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 8: Get you cheered up, don't get fired, you need. 196 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 7: You need three home runs in a in a game 197 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 7: from Aaron Aaron Judge. 198 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 8: Caution, what was that? 199 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: Got some new drops for you? 200 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 8: Rob Caution? 201 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: Who's that? Karen? Don't worry about it? Your SII acting crazy? 202 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 8: Don't get fired? 203 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: You want to hear my new favorite one? 204 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 8: Sexist? What you say about the w NBA row sexist? 205 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: What did you watch the women's finals of the US Open? 206 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Trying to sabotage my career. What is this they're listening 207 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: back at headquarters of women? What about the United States 208 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: Women's National team? 209 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 8: Sexist? 210 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: What about laundry night at the w n. 211 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 8: B A sexist? Don't get fired? 212 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 7: Mayback music? Oh my gosh, you guys are nuts. Steven 213 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 7: Brown's They're terrible. Didn't know what they're doing it. 214 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I think they know exactly exactly what they're doing, which 215 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: is Chadors not in our plans. Will hold on to him. 216 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: Maybe some team will come calling and they have some 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: quarterback issue and they go, hey, you know Chador, Yeah, 218 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: let's let's give him a shot. Hey, we'll give you 219 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: this or that or whatever. Just the idea that Bailey 220 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Zappi's getting more reps than him. 221 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: Rogerie, do you know anything about it? Is he fast? Bailey? 222 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying, is he he might be faster than 223 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: Shador because I'm saying the Lamar Jackson. 224 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm thinking. He's just being meeting. We 225 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: go back to Shador. We just need to be jack. 226 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: In general, he mentioned it. It's a tipical. This doesn't 227 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: happen on other teams. Other teams do not have multiple guys, 228 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: and everybody doesn't have Lamar Jackson. Dang it, we gotta 229 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: get ready for Lamar Jackson. Okay, Door Sanders will play 230 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: He's and they was gonna say something. I don't want 231 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 4: Alex hit to drop on me. The new one, No, 232 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: the old one. Okay, we're about I mean. 233 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: They already got a black quarterback, like, did you push 234 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: the door back there? 235 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 8: Racist? 236 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: He is racist. He's racist. 237 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 7: That's gotta be racist to Door is not the stereotypes 238 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 7: of all black dudes are fast Mexican. Not all black 239 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 7: dudes are fast. Okay, Rob, sure Door ain't taken off. 240 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 7: All right, let's get out of there, so we keep 241 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 7: our Robbed by the way. Fun fact you know Rob, 242 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 7: you knows as a baseball fan. The reason why in 243 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 7: Major League all the. 244 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: Wesley snipe see or him and slow motion because they 245 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: said he was really slow as a runner. Really yep, 246 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: he ain't Tom Cruise, Nope. They said he was extremely slow. 247 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: So they if we played it in full speed and 248 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: he wouldn't look good. Everything in slow motion, so. 249 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: He looked like he look good in a white man 250 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: can't jump, but he wasn't running. It was just a 251 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: short racist. He wasn't racist. He was good at men 252 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: can't jump. It was good in those movies, those sports. 253 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: But that is snipe. 254 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 7: He's up underrated like nineteen eighty eight to ninety six run. 255 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 3: Oh no he did. He had a good run. But 256 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: the irs thing I think right here, and people don't. 257 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 7: People do not like Nicholas Cage's been doing one hundred 258 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 7: movies a year, still trying to play off his taxes. 259 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 260 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 261 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 262 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 263 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Hey what's up everybody? 264 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 9: It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Arrington and I 265 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 9: couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called Up 266 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 9: on Game? 267 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: What is Up on Game? 268 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 9: You ass along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. 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Hutschman 274 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 9: Zada and Plexico Burrs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 275 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 9: or wherever you get your podcast from. 276 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 3: We got a big fight happening tomorrow. 277 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 7: The cool thing about it, Canelo and Crawford, is that 278 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 7: we've been talking about the fights we don't want to 279 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 7: see that have landed on Netflix, but this one is 280 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 7: actually on Netflix. So I think a lot of people 281 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 7: are gonna be able to take advantage of that and 282 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 7: enjoy Robberie. 283 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: Ya know you're all in on this one, right, No, 284 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: he can't wait. 285 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pumped up. I'm gonna watch a big fight party, 286 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: probably at the end loss. I gotta clean up. After 287 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: eighty inch TV said we'll not be shut that down. 288 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: I was trying to sell on my eighty inch TV 289 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: set up man up. His wife was like, Nope, you're 290 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 4: not bringing that. This is how I know you ain't 291 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: married to a Mexican. I know you ever woke up dead, Kevin. 292 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: Hey, this is this is how you know I'm actually 293 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: lying because I would never have done. 294 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: You say all that, but no, but we're very excited 295 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: about this fight. Right to fight that people say the 296 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 4: fight can save boxing. Right, it ain't same, but Yeah, 297 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: here's my question for you guys leading into this fighter. 298 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: We talked about it months ago when it was first 299 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: even speculating before he's even announced. We talked about this, 300 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: and my belief coming into it was I I never thought, 301 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: as much as Crawford wanted this fight, it was ever 302 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: going to happen because I believed that Canelo Alvarez has 303 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: nothing to gain in this one other than a boatload 304 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: of money. Obviously, he'll do anything with a lot of money. 305 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: But if you just look at his resume and his history, 306 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: you go down the list, and the guy's already beaten 307 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: Glovekin twice. He's being Covid lab, he's being the American, 308 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: he's been Miguel Koto like. He's run through divisions over 309 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: and over and over. He challenged himself by going up 310 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: a division he shouldn't have, which is something that Crawford's 311 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: going to do here because he wanted to test himself 312 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: against the bigger man, the better man, so on and 313 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: so forth. And my question has always been, he's already 314 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: the top draw on the sport, he's already making a 315 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: ton of money. 316 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: His legacy is basically cemented. What does he have to gain. 317 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: By taking on a guy who is at a minimum 318 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: two way classes lighter, and with all due respect to 319 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: Bud Crawford, I think he's a great fighter. His only 320 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: real notable fight that anybody ever talks about is the 321 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: one against Spence, because as great as he is, he 322 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: doesn't have that same mark key fight that everyone knows 323 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: and talks about. So my question was why would he 324 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: take this fight? Because if he wins, he's supposed to win. 325 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: He's the bigger guys, the more experienced guy. But if 326 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: he loses, then that changes everything. 327 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: It is And I'm just gonna do we know the 328 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: persons like what they're getting because now people are motivated 329 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: by these big paydays and money Because I'm with you, 330 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Rob G, like, like, it only hurts you if you lose, 331 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: like winning, well are you supposed to win? 332 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: Right? 333 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: So you don't get anything out of it other than 334 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the financial terms, Rob G. So I just wonder what 335 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: the payday is to make him say, yeah, I gotta 336 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: take this fight. 337 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: I disagree. 338 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 7: I think it's exactly the opposite. I think this is 339 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 7: a separation between him and Floyd. I think this is 340 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 7: where he can say Floyd, I am emulating his business model, right, 341 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 7: I got with the zone. I'm doing all these big fights. 342 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 7: I'm kind of handling my own career like Floyd. And 343 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 7: now I do think Floyd has become the blueprint for 344 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 7: a lot of backs in that regarding really and a 345 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 7: lot of other sports as well. But I think he 346 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 7: is saying when people say, and even though it's you know, 347 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 7: ten twelve year difference, whatever the age is, but they 348 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 7: can say the best of the generation, people are gonna 349 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 7: say Floyd, but people can maybe say Canelo, because why 350 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 7: what's the thing we say about Floyd? He didn't fight anybody, 351 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 7: or he didn't fight him at the right times. He waited, 352 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 7: And I think Canelo has that in his favor. You 353 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 7: just listed off some of those some really good fights 354 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 7: he fought Floyd, he fought others, you know, and now 355 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 7: he's fighting the only other person someone could say he's 356 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 7: been the best during his reign. And so to me, 357 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 7: this is a differentiator. You know what else, He had 358 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 7: a chance to fight Jake Paul, Remember that was coming out, 359 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 7: and everybody's like, oh man, why Canelly could have made 360 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 7: crazy money? N scratch that. I want to fight a 361 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 7: real fighter who's still in his prime. Is still one 362 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 7: of the best. The guy people say, you know, if 363 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 7: you look out of eye, I don't know. 364 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: It's close. 365 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 7: And so I think he's trying to say I have 366 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 7: respect for the sport integrity. With the sport integrity, I 367 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 7: have been a fighter. I fought everybody, and I want 368 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 7: to now continue to fight the best and maybe I 369 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 7: can try to save the sport. If it doesn't happen, 370 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 7: at least you can't say I didn't try. And then 371 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 7: that can be a differentiator, right, because that's if he's 372 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 7: gonna make stupid money. 373 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: But if Rob do you got the money? 374 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is reported on the Sporting News. So according 375 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: to this report, Canelo is going to make anywhere between 376 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 4: one hundred hundred and fifty million dollars for this fight, dude, 377 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: and by comparison, and this goes to show you about 378 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: how it's a one sided affair in terms of marketability. 379 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 4: Bud Crawford said on a podcast he's only making about 380 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: ten million for this fight. 381 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 7: That's that's what he said. He's doing that for family, 382 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 7: so they don' sweat him. Yeah, could it be like 383 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 7: that one hundred and fifty. 384 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: To two To your point, the Spence fight that everyone 385 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: was so excited about that we went to that fight 386 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 4: only got made because Bud Crawford said, Spence, you're the 387 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: big dog, You're the guy that wants to see you 388 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: take the majority. I want the opportunity to fight you. 389 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 4: Because he didn't have any Marquis fights before he was 390 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: fighting on ESPN. He wasn't getting papid. He why he 391 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: is for eight, nine, ten years. But that money sound 392 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: low though, doesn't it? 393 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 7: The only thing I'll say he may have And y'all 394 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 7: know how these goes, all these incentives, he may have 395 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 7: some all the incentives. If the fight goes over fifty 396 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 7: million viewed at the same time, you get ba hey 397 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 7: on the back end between the ticket sales and the 398 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 7: promotion sale by like he'll so he might end up 399 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 7: at the end of it all making thirty million dollars. 400 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: You know. 401 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 7: I'm just here is what you're peeing paid ten million 402 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: straight cash. However on the backup, you know. 403 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: And then we'll mention too. Canelo was promised a minimum 404 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: of four hundred million dollars by Turkey the Shah or 405 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: if he for a four fight deal or a five 406 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 4: fight deal, so minimum no matter who he fights. He 407 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: fought Williams School. Rob, if Williams School delivered a pizza 408 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: to your house, you have no idea who he was. No, 409 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: you got eighty million dollars for that fight, I would say, 410 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: skull brother all that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 411 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 4: So money, the money was going to be there regardless, 412 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: So why take this fight? 413 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 7: That's what I think. That's why. And here's the other 414 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 7: part of this. Guess what if he were to lose 415 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: the Crawford There's not a single person that would be like, 416 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 7: that's a bad loss. You might be shocked, like I 417 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 7: thought he would win because he's heavier. It's not a 418 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 7: bad loss. And some people I talk today, they're all 419 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 7: about Crawford. They think that he's gonna win because Crawford 420 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 7: has been too Rob G's point, I'm not gonna act 421 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 7: like I watched every one of his fights, but I've 422 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 7: watched definitely a the vast majority, and I watched him 423 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 7: like I feel like the only his dude is incredible 424 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 7: technician power, you know, uh focus, I mean defensively, counter 425 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 7: also can be an off. I'm like, dude, this dude 426 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 7: is amazing, and I think this is his shot. That's 427 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 7: why for him it'sus huge to finally be on the 428 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 7: main stage, if you will, not just being a great 429 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 7: guy who never got the big shot. But I think 430 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 7: for for again going back to Canelo, even if he loses, 431 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 7: he loses to Crawford, they both win because guess whoever 432 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 7: want to see the rematch? Everybody as long as Canelo 433 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 7: don't drop him in the first round, some crazy you know, 434 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 7: he just overpowered him. This thing goes past eight rounds, 435 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 7: It doesn't matter who wins, and it's a good fight, 436 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 7: and they're fighting each other. This is gonna be a 437 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 7: good win for both of them and for Crawford, especially 438 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 7: this ten million guaranteed part. 439 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: And then obviously we. 440 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 7: Know the back end that might go to twenty five 441 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 7: the next time with more on the back end. 442 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: Does the fact that Crawford is already thirty seven? How 443 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: much is that we get to this because Canalo even 444 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: though Canelo's much more experienced, much more thirty thirty five 445 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: two years younger. So is this Crawford saying, Hey, I'm 446 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: already on my way out the door. Yeah, I mean 447 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: this is my last best chance to get sure from Crawford. 448 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: That makes total sense, right? 449 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I didn't I thought you were asking the skill. No, 450 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 7: this is him absolutely, I've got to get me a 451 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 7: paydat So okay. 452 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: So then quickly with whether it no, what're up against it? 453 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: Why is this different where you're saying, hey, Alpharez is 454 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: fighting Crawford and you know the knock on Floyd when 455 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: you fight everybody too late, it's basically the same ages 456 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 4: as when Floyd fought Manny and they'll knock on that 457 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: was well, you know, he fought him when he was 458 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 4: laid and his shoulder was messed up. The idea, why 459 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: is that not a conversation with this fight? 460 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: A great question. 461 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 7: I answered that it's because we didn't clamor for this 462 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 7: individual fight for five six years, that specific fight waiting 463 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 7: for millions of years. 464 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: Or is it just that there aren't any good fights 465 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: out there? You know what I mean? Like like there 466 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: aren't any good fights. Like the biggest headlines for boxing 467 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: have been Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fighting at sixty. 468 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: Think about that. I covered boxing. 469 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: For years at heyday, yeah, and during the Heyday and 470 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: when I was with the Free Press in Detroit and 471 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: I was in Vegas all the time, all these big 472 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: fights and you just don't have the same feel because 473 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: they just aren't that many good fights that you're looking 474 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: forward to. And then the ones that when Mayweather, even 475 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: when he was winning, they were so boring and all 476 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: tomato cans, and you just said to yourself, I think 477 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: I told you we used to watch it at the barbershop. 478 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: I stopped for free, Like you know, I was like, 479 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: I can't watch another one of these. 480 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: That's how bad. You weren't missing anything because you knew 481 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: the outcome. 482 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 7: They're gonna give it everything they have for the first 483 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 7: round and a half, get Floyd once or twice, and 484 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 7: then Floyd's gonna go defense mode and just science him 485 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 7: to death for the for the next ten to eleven rounds. 486 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 487 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 488 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 489 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: listen live. 490 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 4: We talked about this quickly yesterday talking about the Jalen 491 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: Hurts Mahomes rivalry conversation. Patrockholmes has never lost three games 492 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 4: in a row in his career period. 493 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Point blank crazy. 494 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: If they lose on Sunday, it will be his third 495 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: straight loss as a starting quarterback. Two of those will 496 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: have been to Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles. Well. 497 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: Rob Grunkowsi, super Bowl champion Fox NFL analyst was on 498 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 4: the Upp and Adams Podcast earlier this week on FanDuel, 499 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: and he discussed what's gone wrong, especially recently with the 500 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs. 501 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: Take a listen. 502 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 10: The Philadelphia he Goles open the floodgates last year in 503 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 10: the Super Bowl versus the Kansas City Chiefs, like, Hey, 504 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 10: we're not afraid of this super you know of the 505 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 10: super team Kansas City Chiefs that are very very well known. 506 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 10: I feel like a lot of teams like last year 507 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 10: had that fear. Oh I can't swing on the Chiefs, 508 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 10: you know, we can't give them our best shot because 509 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 10: they're so well known and everyone is you know, is 510 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 10: talking about them. So the Kansas City the Philadelphia Eagles 511 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 10: punch them in the face. The Chiefs didn't know how 512 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 10: to react to that because no one else was doing 513 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 10: that while going into this year. Now the Los Angeles 514 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 10: Chargers punched them in the face. The Chiefs were like, whoa, 515 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 10: They're coming at us. How do we react? Well, they 516 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 10: didn't know how to react because no one was doing 517 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 10: that before. So the Philadelphia Eagles opened that floodgate of hey, 518 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 10: if you punch these guys in the face, you take 519 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 10: it to him, you come out swinging, They're gonna fold 520 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 10: and they're not gonna be the team that you've been 521 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 10: seeing all last year. 522 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 7: I absolutely disagree. I think it's the opposite. I think 523 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 7: for now, maybe four or five years, they get the best. 524 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 7: They get everybody's best punch. This is most teams super 525 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 7: Bowl rob everybody doesn't make it to the postseasons. 526 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: Some teams who do barely making it not that great. 527 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 7: I think every team every week they come in, they're 528 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 7: getting what each team has. And sometimes you might get 529 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 7: a decent punch. It might be a Floyd Mayweather where 530 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 7: you punch me up a few times in the first round, 531 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 7: then I come back and dominate you the second half 532 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 7: of the fight. Or sometimes people just ain't got to 533 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 7: punch at all, and I'm Muhammad ad Lee dodging that thing. 534 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 7: So to me, they've been able to take everybody's punch 535 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 7: for years now, whether it was they were an explosive 536 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 7: team and they were scoring a bunch of points, whether 537 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 7: they're more decon dunk the last couple of years tall 538 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 7: the way to the Super Bowl. Now they get smacked 539 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 7: up by the Eagles. I think the Eagles just absolutely 540 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 7: dominated the front line on both sides of the ball. 541 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 7: They had the bigger, stronger, faster, hungrier guys. We already 542 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 7: know the Kansas City Chiefs offensive line was terrible. Mahomes 543 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 7: was running for his life, they were injured, they were 544 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 7: missing players. So I just think that's what you got. 545 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 7: The Eagles were just a flat out better team studgs 546 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 7: on both sides of the front line, offensively and defensively. 547 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 7: So that's how I see that. And also a couple 548 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 7: of years ago, all the way to the Super Bowl win, 549 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 7: the Chiefs went every game down ten at some point 550 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 7: and still came back every game. Every game in a 551 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 7: superw Dave, we got down ten most teams, Oh man, 552 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 7: maybe you come back from one, maybe two. Every single 553 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 7: game they were down ten, including the Super Bowl, and 554 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 7: they came back and won. I think they know how 555 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 7: to find a way back. So I don't agree with 556 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 7: Gronk on that one, just because again history has shown 557 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 7: they've taken people's punches and come back and one and 558 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 7: two and again the last year fifteen to two you 559 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 7: don't think everybody else was trying to Mike Tyson them 560 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 7: and knock them out throughout the season. They just withstood 561 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 7: those punches until they finally went into the Ultimate Bully 562 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 7: and the Eagles. 563 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what Gronk is saying is and I 564 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: think even with the record that they're not that team. 565 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: They're not that team that you thought you couldn't be, 566 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Like a lot of teams had them in that spot, 567 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: couldn't finish the deal. They don't look as powerful as 568 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: they did. It's not the same Patrick Mahomes that you're 569 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: afraid of that he's gonna do something. There's something like 570 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: like the like, uh, the armor has been beaten down 571 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. 572 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: I think that's really what he was saying. 573 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: I hear your point on what teams have done and 574 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: they get up for the Chiefs and all that, but 575 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: I do believe like the Chiefs are wounded, and I 576 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: think that you saw last year when they played a 577 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: really good team. 578 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: They look mortal. 579 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: They did like like you know, we talked about it, yeah, 580 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: like like a lot of people. I mean, I did 581 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: pick them, but was I surprised that how bad they 582 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: looked and how bad they got throttled. That was different, 583 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's what Gronk is talking about, because 584 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: they did get punched in their mouth in that game 585 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: by the Eagles. 586 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: But it was more than that. It was that the 587 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: Eagles were a really good team. 588 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: And they keep skating getting by and a team shooting 589 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: themselves in the foot and making a key turnover or 590 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: missing a field goal. You know, so you look and go, well, 591 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: don't matter. All they got to do is win. And 592 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: that's that I gave you. Was remarkable, It really was. 593 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: With percentage of throws over twenty five yards and the 594 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: other teams that were right there in the same way, 595 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: they were three and fifteen where they should be because 596 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: they can't advance the ball down place right, and yet 597 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 1: they were exact out there were fifteen and three like 598 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: it just didn't even. It doesn't compute, like all those 599 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: teams should be down at the bottom right. If you 600 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: can't convert those things, you can't stretch the field. You 601 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: have to become one dimensional as far as Dnking and 602 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: duncan and there's no big play over the top, you 603 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: know that can change the game in a minute. 604 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: It was very interesting to me. 605 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 7: I just think but again, that's to me. We've known 606 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 7: for years now. We have seen the Chiefs. They're the 607 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 7: tea you know, they're like the Lakers when the Lakers 608 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 7: are rolling, or the Warriors. My team sucks. We ain't 609 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 7: going to postseings. But dangett, the Warriors are in town. 610 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 7: I'm going to the game. We gotta beat them. This 611 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 7: is our NBA Finals. Here comes Shaq and Kobe. We 612 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: have no shot, but danget, I'm going to the game. 613 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 7: Be fun if we can beat them. This is our 614 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 7: NBA Finals. 615 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: This is to me. 616 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 7: Teams for years we can beat Tom Brady, the Patriots, Dange. 617 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 7: We had a good season. It was fun, you know. 618 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 7: And so I think they've been People have been trying 619 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 7: to punch them in the off. They just can't because 620 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 7: they have a variety of ways to win. They've won 621 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 7: historically putting up a bunch of points. Not the last 622 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 7: couple of years. They're just dink and dunky and get 623 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 7: all the way to Super Bowl. Win, won a couple 624 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 7: of years ago, last year, get right back there. So 625 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 7: I just think I don't agree with this point. I 626 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 7: think they've taken everybody's punches and they keep finding a 627 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 7: way to keep marching along and they just got beat 628 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 7: by a better team, the Eagles. 629 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 3: I just don't think they're the same. 630 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: Rob You gotta know, I actually agree with Gronk a 631 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: little bit on this one, and that's because situations obviously, 632 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: like Buffalo and Baltimore, they're different, right because they're the 633 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 4: only two teams, I guess you would say the Burrows 634 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: Bengals as well, where they would play them and they 635 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: would be like, hey, not only are we eye level, 636 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 4: we're a better team than you. 637 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: And it just something would go. 638 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: Sideways, or Patrick Muwans would happen and a. 639 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: Missfield goal whatever, or Jay Flowers at the one one, 640 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: things that didn't ordinarily happen right like that. 641 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: That changed again. 642 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: But these other teams, like my Raiders, like the Broncos, 643 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: like the Chargers, on certain occasions, they would get into 644 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: these points where even if they got ahead, rather than 645 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: trying to win the game, they'd be like, we just 646 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 4: got to hang on, had to hang on. We got 647 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: them right, they're up ten, there's nine minutes left. We 648 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 4: hang on, we play field position, we're gonna win this game. 649 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: And they get tight because they're waiting for that Chiefs 650 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: Avalanche to come like, hey, we've got to hold on. 651 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 4: And you guys know this, as you guys been covering 652 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: sports forever, not just in football, but a sport. When 653 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: you're playing not to lose instead of trying. 654 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: To win is usually when you lose. And what the. 655 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles did in that Super Bowl is they came out, 656 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: they smacked them in the mouth and instead of saying, 657 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: all right, here comes the retaliation, here comes the haymaker 658 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: coming back. We're gonna hit him again, and we're gonna 659 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: hit him again, and we hit him again and then 660 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. And then that's the Chargers, not 661 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: as talented obviously upfront as Philadelphia, did the exact same thing. 662 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: Because when Patrick Mahos finally got going in the second 663 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: half of that game last Friday, justin Herbert in that offense, 664 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 4: they're not gonna run the ball. They came out on 665 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: the last drive and he throws the ball on first down, 666 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: and on second down they do a playack and he 667 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: runs for the first down. 668 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 7: They went ahead, won that game. They were gonna wait 669 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 7: and what's gonna come out. I'm glad you said that, 670 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 7: and congrats to them, and you're right. What we have 671 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 7: seen could change this year, but I'm all by the history. 672 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 7: What we have seen is everything you just mentioned is 673 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 7: not what happens in the postseason. Justin Herbert scrabbles, scrabbles, 674 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 7: runs for it like he did, and he gets tripped 675 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 7: up three yards short of the first down. They go 676 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 7: for it on fourth or something. Crazy, Chiefs get the ball, 677 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 7: they win. So everything you're saying is right, I hear you, 678 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 7: except for the Chiefs still find a way to win it. 679 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 7: Even in that game you just mentioned, Justin Herbert doesn't 680 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 7: get that first down, we all go the Chiefs are 681 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 7: about to find a way to win, and that's why 682 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 7: everybody was like, wow, finally look at Justin Herbert because 683 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 7: he had been two and seven against them beforehand. So 684 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 7: to me, I think it's almost like again Floyd Mayweather, 685 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 7: ignoring the fact that, like they've taken everybody's best shot. 686 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 7: I can't help it if I just, you know, sometimes 687 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 7: the fight's gonna be a little boring. But the fact 688 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 7: is I keep winning, and that's just what they've done. 689 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 7: And I think, aside from the Eagles, they never just 690 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 7: really gotten beat down like that. 691 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: That was telling, though, as as bad as it was, 692 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: and I told you all year you noticed that they 693 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: weren't gonna win a Super Bowl because I was like, dude, 694 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: they're getting away with it. They're winning games, but they 695 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: really haven't played what they need to do in order 696 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl. 697 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 7: This throw both of you, Robs. Their offensive line is good? 698 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 7: Is what happens in that game? You can still say 699 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 7: they can win. I'm just because Patrick mahone's running for 700 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 7: his life every play. If that offensive line is how 701 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 7: it had been historically. 702 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: What do you think? So you say no, Still, what 703 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: do you think, Roger? 704 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 4: If their offensive line was as good as they had 705 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: been like earlier in their line? 706 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, just what they normally have. 707 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: They still lose. But it's not that bad. It's a game, 708 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: and they lose. I'm with you, and the only reason why. 709 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 7: So I bring it up to say to you that's 710 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 7: where it gets interesting because if he's in that game, 711 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 7: oh my, and they're down ten, like I've stated, we 712 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 7: all go, oh shoot, hold on, here they come, because 713 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 7: that's all they need. But that offensive line was beaten, 714 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 7: battered and they just got That's cool. 715 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: But that's called football, like like, and that's why I 716 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: got smoked. 717 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: But they've taken advantage of other teams that don't have 718 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: staff or or they miss up an interception or drop 719 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: it or whatever, you know what I mean, Like we 720 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: could see here all day, Like there's plenty of opportunities. 721 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: That to me, the Chiefs got it, you know, had 722 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: something work in their favor, the offensive line when they 723 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: lost to Tampa Bay. Remember they got steamroll than that. 724 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Patrick has had a couple of really bad Super Bowls, like. 725 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 7: Oh he hasn't made spect Those are the games where 726 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 7: he would say, look at my highlight reel that ain't 727 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 7: Those aren't the games. 728 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: Even in this wins rob g At one point he 729 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: had like eight touchdowns and six picks in the Super Bowl. 730 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: You think he's what's his headens? 731 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 7: I think it's ten and seven is a tennant in 732 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 7: his career, in his career, you know what I mean, Like, no, listen, 733 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 7: and two of them were garbage time touch Jalen Hurts 734 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 7: is definitely looking like I'm the superrit even in the 735 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 7: Super 736 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: Bowl, the last one, remember that with the long touchdown 737 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: throw like in a blowout