WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Depth Everywhere 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:07.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:11.040 Cowboys. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:18.040 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:23.560 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.200 Danny McCrae, Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.880 Hello and welcome to the Players Lounge, sponsored by Tostitos, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.960 the official chip and dip of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.240 You're not rocking with the best. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:46.280 I'm heck m Harrison, He's Danny McCray. That's Newish who. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.800 Were starting the show. We got to start up. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:00.680 We can build now. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.480 I'll tell you what I used to say the only 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.280 forty two. I acknowledge it's still very Church. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.480 But that way it's still that. I'm gonna have to 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.319 change at BC. I'm gonna have to change at BC. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.639 I got come back, come back. All the had. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.200 Know everything, you got, all of that, after all of 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.280 that BG I would have got. But this is the 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.240 Player's Lounge. Man and man, we got so much to 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.040 talk about. But y'all know me if I'm if I'm hosting, 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:30.800 I want to find out man house your weekends. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.280 A lot of things going on d MA. I'm gonna 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:32.880 start with you. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.640 Yeah, listen, I'm good for the most part, you know 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.840 what I'm saying. We had a nice little halftime performers 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.160 with NFL Flag. The EU teams got to play during 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.559 halftime of the first preseason game. So everything was good 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.520 right until I walked in here. Okay, and if anybody 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.760 who's watching, if you was watching last week, okay, the 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.960 angle is a little different because Barry Church stole my spot. Okay, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.800 and I'm not gonna forget this some context. I'm not 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.640 gonna forget you stole my spot context on this spot. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.559 How about you? How are you? 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:58.400 Brother? I'm good. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.120 I moved the daughter into her dorm room, so yeah, yeah, man, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.560 was it was good. It was good sitting up in 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.680 the church because they wanted to pray over the soccer teams. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.799 Was in church and I'm gonna lie, man. I started crying, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.040 started crying. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.760 Man, you're dropping your first child off of school, and 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.280 you know, it's like, wow, here you are because you 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.679 never forget. Obviously, all three of you got a child, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.440 so you never forget the first one. And just everything 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.120 there and how did I get from. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:23.440 There to here? 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:24.560 Start crying on us. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.160 No, I ain't gonna cry, but that's where I was. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.320 But that's just what it was. It's like, you know, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:30.160 wow wow. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.440 So so that was my weekend and one hundred and 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.440 nine degrees driving from Tyler back to town. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.800 It was getting burnt up on the steering wheel. Was hot. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.600 But all good, man, all good. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.280 So good, good deal. I love to hear it. Man, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:43.840 b see what about you manas the weekend? 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.120 Everything, everything's amazing, man, family doing good. Kids start at 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.800 school next what tomorrow? Tomorrow? 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:55.320 Get out that it's gonna get a little bit better. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.239 Was gonna get better. You got what's your window? You 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.800 got a four or five hour win, so drop off 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.000 seven thirty. I don't gotta do nothing again to about 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:08.040 one ish, So one ish please make I'll. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.000 Wenesday. So that's how you Wednesday? 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.040 Yeah, that's how you know what's going on with Marry Church. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.160 I'm gonna tell y'all for me. You know, I told 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.280 y'all man, my son broke his hip training about a 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:21.760 month ago. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.359 Went to the doctor today, that thing is all healed up. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.880 We wanted to go boy, so we trained back on 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.880 the tracks, you know what I mean, sophomore playing Boysit man, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.280 we're looking forward to it, but hey, we got to 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.760 talk about some cowboy football. Dallas Cowboys played on Saturday 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.560 at four pm at eighteen and T Stadium, and man, 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.520 there are a lot of good things that came out 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.280 of that of that preseason game. But one of the 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.000 big things that everybody in Cowboy Nation is talking about 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:52.200 is number forty two Deuce Vonn and Neuie. Tell me 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.280 what you saw, man, Anything good came out of that, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.680 especially the running back position that we've been talking about. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.320 I mean, at nauseam, I think what we saw in 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:01.600 camp translated to the field. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.200 We alway talking about all aux Noar. This, this gentleman 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:09.160 is not all Auxnar. And in so many ways, this 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.080 kid performed like he did at Kansas State. You know, 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.160 you had question marks and then you see him playing, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.520 Oh okay, he's fine. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.000 So he's going mad the football team. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.760 And it was just kind of interesting being in the 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.480 media tent and people with well, you know, you can't 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.120 have turping, and you can't have you can't have Duce Vaughn. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:29.320 Why not, and just even reading Calvin Watkin's like, well, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:30.000 you know, what. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:30.240 Do you do? 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.000 It's turfing in Trump said turping on the bubble. How's 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.960 a Pro Bowl returner on a bubble. It's not gonna happen. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.200 It's not gonna happen. They're going to keep both, which 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.960 is also why McCarthy wanted to see Turpin in a 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:42.720 receiver role. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.000 Let me see what else you can do. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.359 So to me, when you start talking about you know, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.080 who's the dude should. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:48.520 Be working for his job? 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.080 Somebody like send me for Hoko, who's not a special 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.240 team's god. So if you ask yourself, go into a 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.240 football season, who's gonna help you on Sundays? 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.720 Who's giving you more players? Turpin, simme foco. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.800 He's pretty simple, right, interpret and you go back to 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.599 duzawand gonna be on the football team. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.440 They like it. Hey, coach likes it. Likes he's gonna 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:16.279 tell some jersey he might sell more forty two jerseys. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.880 Safety's running backs, you know what I mean? 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.360 You know, and I'm coming out of that for too, 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:22.800 because I. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.960 Mean, you can't four two at the running backspy forty three. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.240 But that was wrong with that. We'll see, we'll see, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:32.640 we'll see. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.320 But nah, you know, coming from that game, of course, 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.200 we're talking about due fun and you know, I think 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.960 he showed a lot of us that he belongs in 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.880 this league. You know, he belongs with still question marks 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.760 on him out there as far as I'm concerned because 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.520 of those, because when we look at it, all right, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.360 when we look at what he was doing, Yes, does 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:48.279 he have great vision. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.280 Of course, he can hit. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.919 The hole and he's extremely elusive back there, so he 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.240 had some home run potential. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:54.800 But to me, when I look. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.520 At it, I mean, it was one preseason game and 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.400 he was going against if we're being honest, he's going 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.479 against guys that or just came out of college just 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.800 like he did. He wasn't going against the first team 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.960 you know, Jacksonville defense out there. He was going against 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.640 threes and fours out there, and he looked impressive. So 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.800 to me, I just need a bigger sample size. You know, 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.920 maybe next game he goes out there and he plays 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:14.440 in the first quarter, he plays in a you know, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.480 earlier in that first half, to see what he can 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.800 do against a little bit better competition. But for the 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.200 competition that he went out there against, he played well. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.120 He was elusive, he made plays out there, and like 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.120 news said, he's gonna make this team. To me, I'm 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.440 with Calvin Waker's a little bit of Calvin Clarence Hill 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.640 a little bit when it comes down to Watkins where 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:35.120 it's Turpin or Douce whan Ill, because to me that 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.440 that's who roster spots taken up by almost the same 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.240 individual gadget type guy. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.880 I mean, so it's up in the air. I'm gonna 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:44.479 go against you a. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.320 Little bit, just because the semi for Hoko thing is 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.960 really giving Turping a spot. To me last week, I'm 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.200 sitting there and I'm saying, you know what if if 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.040 Simmi Fooko go out there and he plays, but if 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.560 he went out there and he showed it he could 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.520 do something in the game, then I think Turpin will 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.800 be in trouble one because I don't think that Turping 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.520 and Deuce are the same. I don't think you can 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.880 use him the same anymore. After I watched him. Deuce 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.200 is are running back all right. He's gonna be in 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.920 the backfield and he's gonna be It's gonna be a 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.960 few gadgets, but they can run. They can line him 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.280 up and run the read rezone. They can run the 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.120 read option. They can do all that stuff with Deuce 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.280 his ability to be elusive. I'm just I said this 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.040 to you on Saturday night. I said, listen, what they 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.080 thought Clyde Edwards Hilaire was supposed to be when he 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.680 got into the league, being able to do what he 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.760 did in college is what I saw in the one 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.280 preseason game. Albeit what I saw from Duce Vaughan when 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.440 he played that game. So you see him make those 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:41.280 strides towards r B two, not RB three, And it 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.880 doesn't concern you at all as far as blocking third 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.120 down even no, no, no, I. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:50.320 Didn't say RB two. I push. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.520 What I saw from him. So when I watched and 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.080 this is ls you think. When I saw Clyde Edwards 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.840 Hilaire play in college, what I expected to see him 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.240 do when he got to the Kansas City was what 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.160 I saw duce Von do. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.680 Be elusive, still run with some power. 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.440 So it's still not you can't like we saw him 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.640 get picked up at practice, You're not gonna see him 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.480 get picked up like that in the game because you 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.680 got to try to tackle the guy, right. And when 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.920 you add the element end of like okay, now we're 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.680 going live, you can see that he has a little 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.760 bit more elusivity than what you had. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:19.560 Saw out there practice. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.560 And I think that is gonna bowl well for him 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.120 now you know, see me, I don't know. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.120 I don't know what Sydney got. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.720 But if he's not RB two, all right, If he's 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.600 not you know, solidified as that running back too, he's not, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.559 So is he just gonna be a gadget guy RB three? 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.439 So how many touches is RB three get? And he 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:39.440 will put RB three in there? 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.120 For if they said we're gonna run the ball as 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.800 much as McCarthy said, he's gonna run the ball, and 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.160 depending on how it starts with the offensive line, I 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.160 think we'll be running the ball a lot. So, putting 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.280 in context the game on Saturday, there were twenty two rushes. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:53.880 Okay, so let's just say. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.040 In a normal game, if you have twenty two touches, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.360 the majority of those are gonna be taken by Tony 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:00.800 Pollard getting seventeen. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:01.760 Eight he is seventeen eighteens. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:06.320 Then you're distributing those in between Duce and Ronald Rico 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.520 dall or whoever else. Hold on, hold on, hold on, 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.720 hold on, listen. I think that's fairy. But just like 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.880 Tony poul and Zeke, if you got a guy that's 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.600 getting the game doing what deuce deal if he plays 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.120 against he comes out in week one and he plays 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.280 like he played on Saturday. All right, you're gonna tell 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.160 me we're gonna sit here and say nah, because he's 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.400 RB three, he can only get two carris. So you're 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:28.760 gonna say, we're gonna put this guy in the game 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.120 and see what he can do. Because he's he's obviously 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.800 a difference maker change of pace to our one change 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.400 of pace guy. But he's one of tho guys you 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:36.760 get out there on Beef and he said, okay, he's 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.160 hide behind the offensive line. He's hard to see. We 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.400 can run screens with him, we can run gadget plays 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.760 with him. Oh yeah, and he can run it between 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.880 the tackles. They put him down there to score on 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.320 the four yard line and. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.160 He makes a move. He does it. I mean almost 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.160 textbook to run that he had it. It was a 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:53.600 great run. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.080 But now, and let me just say this as far 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:59.160 as the offensive coordinator, now, Mike McCarthy in his mind, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.480 when you're putting toge other a deuce package, and I 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.480 think what you're alluding to is a RB three, you 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.840 keep a guy like that just for four or five plays, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.760 what else is he gonna do? But if you have 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.080 a package like that, what would that package entail. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.280 For some of the some of the screenplays they ran 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.520 out there were pretty cool and McCarty. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.520 Thumpa's like they can't. He's like, they're trying to find it. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.360 So there'll be packages in there for him, I think 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.120 obviously Tony Powler's one. I think duce right now is 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:30.959 three at two. You're looking for Malik Davis, ric O'dowdell, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.079 Ronald Jones, who's gonna miss two games because of a suspension, 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.760 and then he's missing camp right now, and you know, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.559 my man holds onto the ball goes under the end zone. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.280 Then it was a nice it was a nice play. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:42.480 He showed some explosives. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.120 But I think so so so, I think they're going 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.679 to have a tough choice basically between Rico dal and 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.160 Elik Davis at this point time. And so I think 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.839 there's gonna be some guys cut that they bring back. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.720 Take for instance, Semi for Hoko, who can be cut. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.760 Let's say it's between Davis or down one of those guys. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.880 Because they know the system other team systems, they won't 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.760 necessarily know. I can see them bringing those guys back 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.679 because this is what they've done in the past. And 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.959 if Will Greer happens to not make the football team, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.160 I can see Will Greer being a guy that doesn't 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:13.880 get picked up by anyone because they say, maybe he 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.719 doesn't know enough of our system and we have who 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.280 we want to be our number three guy, and the 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.040 Cowboys can bring about this practice squad's gonna be a 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.520 very interesting place and they're gonna have to make those decisions. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.280 That's why the Seattle game is so big because who 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.760 plays well again that you start to say, and you guys, notice, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.040 we can't hide him. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.160 Oh yeah, yeah, right, we can't. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.320 Right, we can't let him get out there. So that's 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.360 that's the interesting thing with some of these positions where 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.320 you're like, well, we like this guy, you like that guy, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.000 who is it? You get cut and you say we 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.640 can get back, like Cooper Rush last year. Cooper Rush 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.160 will not be cut again. You know they're gonna keep him, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.760 but that's what they did last year. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:48.600 Who can we let go? 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.760 And maybe another team doesn't want it because they're like, man, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:52.000 he's not gonna. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.480 Really know our system, our package. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.360 But that's why a Duce Vaughan is gonna make this 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.280 team and a Turpe's gonna make this team because if 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.520 you put those two out there right, you're not getting 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:00.880 him back. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.520 We all agreement that duce Von stock is I'll get 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.520 that shooting through. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.200 He's off all he's off. He has made the team. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.040 And you are saying that Urping is for sure on 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.760 this team because he made the Pro Bowl last year. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.400 He made the Pro Bowl even with the fumbling issues. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.440 Let me get yeah, little fumble light is there. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:21.840 Little made the Pro Bowl. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.920 Fossil is Fossil has juice. Fossil's got juice. But right now, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.040 if you don't have Turping there, who's doing it? 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.240 They kicked them if they kicked the ball to deuce 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.720 if they I mean because they punter fumbled the snap. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.079 So it was like one of those rugby kicks. He 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.400 didn't really get an opportunity to get out there and show. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:40.680 What he can do. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.240 But those are the type of as we said, Okay, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.560 let's get him back there on part return and see 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.200 if he has that same type of juice when you 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.800 get him the ball in his hands then and can 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.920 he secured the ball one because remember Cole Beasley used 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:54.760 get put back there because he could just. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.640 Won, he could catch the ball, he could get so 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.120 but also with Turping, there was a little friendly fire 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:05.400 there that led to the the fumble. So but but 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:10.560 but I put the turps on for me, Turples on 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.040 this football team. And one of the things that we 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.360 got to talk to him at camp out a little 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.280 bit was, I think it was twenty two some odd 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.480 football games when not that he had played between Cowboys, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.520 you know, the preseason and the NFL season going off 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.200 the uf USFLA he didn't really he was tired. So 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.760 he's had an off season. I'm looking forward for the 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.040 bounce back against Seattle. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:34.440 I do. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.120 But but to me, Turping and vond to me, these 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.440 are not question marks. For some media members as we're 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.160 talking about this team, they're like, man, I don't know 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.920 if you keep both of them. Yeah, you're keeping them both, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.920 because if you put either one of them out there, 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:45.480 they're gone. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:46.120 I'm just telling you. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.200 If you put duce Von out there the return kicks 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.280 or return punts and they let him get the ball 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.040 in his hands and he shows that he could do something, 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.440 then I think you should be worried about turping. One 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.560 thing about it, and when I saw duce Von, he 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.680 is instant energy for your offense. He just provided a 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.520 spark immediately. Just the way he runs, I mean elusive. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.520 He had two guys running to each I don't know 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.720 if you saw that. I mean, come on, man, I 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.079 mean tell me. I'm sure Funds heard this whole life. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.040 His low center of gravity makes it very hard for 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.080 guys to be able to tackle him. But I just 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.400 think that one thing about him is what the Cowboys 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.640 offense has been needing, especially just an instant energy guy, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.200 and he gives that immediately to this offense. But switching 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.240 gears here and going back over to the other side. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.800 Another position that and I think we got some players 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.240 over there is in the linebacker room, and we talked 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.480 about this defense being elite in them taking the next step, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.360 and we knew that the linebackers would have to come 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.440 front and center to represent this dominance on defense. Man, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.880 we've got some players over there, And I started with 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.600 the Marvin Overshaw the young man. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.760 And give Will McLay and the scouting scouting department credit 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.080 when they have drafted a young man who fits what 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.080 they want. So many times he want to draft players 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.600 based on you know whatever whatever, But who fit you 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:05.720 know the size of measurables? 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.120 Who fits what it is you do? This young man, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:08.680 he's the. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:13.840 Right culture, he's got the right attitude, Texas native cowboy fan, 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.680 wants to be here, wants to play the special teams, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.600 knows his role. So you can't get enough young guys 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.120 like that. So he's going to make this football team. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.480 Once again, who do you look at that you say 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.600 may not make it right now? 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.760 A linebacker court based off this game. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.960 Jabrill Cox is a guy who I could see not 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.480 making the fifty three, but they say we want you 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.400 on the practice squad. And unless he makes him plays, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:42.720 because I go back to this, if you put a 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.560 guy out there, who's gonna take him right now? Jabril 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.360 hasn't got enough tape right now, that's going to say 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.480 to somebody we need him. And that's Seattle's big. Let's 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.360 tell you got right now. Seattle's big for a couple 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:54.880 of guys where you just say, okay, I gotta show 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.880 him something because you only have one more game after that. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.920 But I don't anticipate Mike playing a lot of starters, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.640 So I think there's gonna be opportunity for some other 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.440 guys to show their wars against some first team guys. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.840 If Pete Carroll decides that this game is going to 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.880 be a dress rehearsal for him in Seattle, and so 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:11.560 that's gonna be pretty key. If you can see some 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.920 of these backup players play against Seattle's once and bother 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.240 by the way, I think is gonna be even better 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.520 football team than they were last year. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.000 I thought they came on strong at. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.680 The end, but you think about thirty five. Thirty five played, 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:22.480 he played well. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.080 You can see that they know what they're doing, that 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.000 they're being coached right right, because you can see them 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.280 reading guardpools. You can see them making sure they were 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:31.920 setting the edge. Then you could see the speed to 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.000 chase guys down to make sure they make the tackles. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.400 I say they I'm sorry, I'm gonna get that guy 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.200 later overside. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:39.640 Listen. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.560 He looked great, all right, And like I said, it's 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.760 only it's only one week, but I think that Jacksonville 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.040 still has some talent out there. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.680 And then I know at the beginning of the game 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.800 they started us to win. Yeah they will. 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.720 So he looked, he looked good. I think him, Lady 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.360 Vanderisch and Damon Clark. I think that is a linebacker 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.040 crew that you're wrecking with right there, right because they're 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.080 not just one trick ponies, right They can run, they 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.600 can hit, and you can see him getting covers. Those 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.679