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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs.

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Speaker 3: I'm heck m Harrison, He's Danny McCray. That's Newish who.

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Speaker 4: Were starting the show. We got to start up.

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Speaker 2: We can build now.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I used to say the only

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Speaker 3: forty two. I acknowledge it's still very Church.

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Speaker 2: But that way it's still that. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: change at BC. I'm gonna have to change at BC.

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Speaker 2: I got come back, come back. All the had.

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Speaker 3: Know everything, you got, all of that, after all of

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Speaker 3: that BG I would have got. But this is the

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Speaker 3: Player's Lounge. Man and man, we got so much to

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Speaker 3: talk about. But y'all know me if I'm if I'm hosting,

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Speaker 3: I want to find out man house your weekends.

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Speaker 2: A lot of things going on d MA. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: start with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I'm good for the most part, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We had a nice little halftime performers

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Speaker 3: with NFL Flag. The EU teams got to play during

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Speaker 3: halftime of the first preseason game. So everything was good

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Speaker 3: right until I walked in here. Okay, and if anybody

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Speaker 3: who's watching, if you was watching last week, okay, the

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Speaker 3: angle is a little different because Barry Church stole my spot. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna forget this some context. I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna forget you stole my spot context on this spot.

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Speaker 2: How about you? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Brother? I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I moved the daughter into her dorm room, so yeah, yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: was it was good. It was good sitting up in

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Speaker 5: the church because they wanted to pray over the soccer teams.

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Speaker 4: Was in church and I'm gonna lie, man. I started crying,

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Speaker 4: started crying.

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Speaker 5: Man, you're dropping your first child off of school, and

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Speaker 5: you know, it's like, wow, here you are because you

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Speaker 5: never forget. Obviously, all three of you got a child,

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Speaker 5: so you never forget the first one. And just everything

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Speaker 5: there and how did I get from.

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Speaker 4: There to here?

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Speaker 2: Start crying on us.

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Speaker 4: No, I ain't gonna cry, but that's where I was.

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Speaker 4: But that's just what it was. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: wow wow.

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Speaker 5: So so that was my weekend and one hundred and

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Speaker 5: nine degrees driving from Tyler back to town.

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Speaker 4: It was getting burnt up on the steering wheel. Was hot.

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Speaker 4: But all good, man, all good.

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Speaker 3: So good, good deal. I love to hear it. Man,

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Speaker 3: b see what about you manas the weekend?

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Speaker 6: Everything, everything's amazing, man, family doing good. Kids start at

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Speaker 6: school next what tomorrow? Tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Get out that it's gonna get a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: Was gonna get better. You got what's your window? You

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Speaker 3: got a four or five hour win, so drop off

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Speaker 3: seven thirty. I don't gotta do nothing again to about

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Speaker 3: one ish, So one ish please make I'll.

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Speaker 4: Wenesday. So that's how you Wednesday?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you know what's going on with Marry Church.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell y'all for me. You know, I told

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Speaker 3: y'all man, my son broke his hip training about a

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Speaker 3: month ago.

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Speaker 2: Went to the doctor today, that thing is all healed up.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to go boy, so we trained back on

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Speaker 3: the tracks, you know what I mean, sophomore playing Boysit man,

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Speaker 3: we're looking forward to it, but hey, we got to

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Speaker 3: talk about some cowboy football. Dallas Cowboys played on Saturday

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Speaker 3: at four pm at eighteen and T Stadium, and man,

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of good things that came out

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Speaker 3: of that of that preseason game. But one of the

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Speaker 3: big things that everybody in Cowboy Nation is talking about

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Speaker 3: is number forty two Deuce Vonn and Neuie. Tell me

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Speaker 3: what you saw, man, Anything good came out of that,

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Speaker 3: especially the running back position that we've been talking about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at nauseam, I think what we saw in

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Speaker 5: We alway talking about all aux Noar. This, this gentleman

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Speaker 5: is not all Auxnar. And in so many ways, this

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Speaker 5: kid performed like he did at Kansas State. You know,

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Speaker 5: you had question marks and then you see him playing,

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, he's fine.

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Speaker 4: So he's going mad the football team.

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Speaker 5: And it was just kind of interesting being in the

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Speaker 5: media tent and people with well, you know, you can't

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Speaker 5: have turping, and you can't have you can't have Duce Vaughn.

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Speaker 5: Why not, and just even reading Calvin Watkin's like, well,

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Speaker 2: Do you do?

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Speaker 5: It's turfing in Trump said turping on the bubble. How's

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Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl returner on a bubble. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen. They're going to keep both, which

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Speaker 5: is also why McCarthy wanted to see Turpin in a

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Speaker 4: Let me see what else you can do.

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Speaker 5: So to me, when you start talking about you know,

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Speaker 4: Be working for his job?

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Speaker 5: Somebody like send me for Hoko, who's not a special

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Speaker 5: team's god. So if you ask yourself, go into a

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Speaker 5: football season, who's gonna help you on Sundays?

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Speaker 4: Who's giving you more players? Turpin, simme foco.

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Speaker 5: He's pretty simple, right, interpret and you go back to

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Speaker 5: duzawand gonna be on the football team.

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Speaker 4: They like it. Hey, coach likes it. Likes he's gonna

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Speaker 4: tell some jersey he might sell more forty two jerseys.

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Speaker 3: Safety's running backs, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: You know, and I'm coming out of that for too,

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Speaker 4: Mean, you can't four two at the running backspy forty three.

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Speaker 2: But that was wrong with that. We'll see, we'll see,

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Speaker 6: But nah, you know, coming from that game, of course,

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Speaker 6: we're talking about due fun and you know, I think

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Speaker 6: he showed a lot of us that he belongs in

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Speaker 6: this league. You know, he belongs with still question marks

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Speaker 6: on him out there as far as I'm concerned because

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Speaker 6: of those, because when we look at it, all right,

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Speaker 6: when we look at what he was doing, Yes, does

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Speaker 6: he have great vision.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he can hit.

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Speaker 6: The hole and he's extremely elusive back there, so he

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Speaker 4: But to me, when I look.

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Speaker 6: At it, I mean, it was one preseason game and

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Speaker 6: he was going against if we're being honest, he's going

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Speaker 6: to me, I just need a bigger sample size. You know,

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Speaker 6: maybe next game he goes out there and he plays

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Speaker 6: competition that he went out there against, he played well.

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Speaker 6: He was elusive, he made plays out there, and like

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Speaker 6: news said, he's gonna make this team. To me, I'm

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Speaker 6: with Calvin Waker's a little bit of Calvin Clarence Hill

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Speaker 6: a little bit when it comes down to Watkins where

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Speaker 6: it's Turpin or Douce whan Ill, because to me that

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Speaker 6: that's who roster spots taken up by almost the same

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Speaker 2: I mean, so it's up in the air. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: Little bit, just because the semi for Hoko thing is

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Speaker 3: be in trouble one because I don't think that Turping

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Speaker 3: use him the same anymore. After I watched him. Deuce

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Speaker 3: is are running back all right. He's gonna be in

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Speaker 3: few gadgets, but they can run. They can line him

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Speaker 3: read option. They can do all that stuff with Deuce

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Speaker 3: his ability to be elusive. I'm just I said this

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Speaker 3: to you on Saturday night. I said, listen, what they

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Speaker 3: thought Clyde Edwards Hilaire was supposed to be when he

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Speaker 3: did in college is what I saw in the one

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Speaker 3: he played that game. So you see him make those

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Speaker 3: strides towards r B two, not RB three, And it

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Speaker 3: doesn't concern you at all as far as blocking third

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Speaker 2: Didn't say RB two. I push.

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Speaker 3: What I saw from him. So when I watched and

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Speaker 3: this is ls you think. When I saw Clyde Edwards

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Speaker 3: Hilaire play in college, what I expected to see him

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Speaker 3: I saw duce Von do.

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Speaker 2: Be elusive, still run with some power.

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Speaker 3: So it's still not you can't like we saw him

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Speaker 3: get picked up at practice, You're not gonna see him

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Speaker 3: got to try to tackle the guy, right. And when

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Speaker 3: you add the element end of like okay, now we're

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Speaker 3: going live, you can see that he has a little

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Speaker 3: bit more elusivity than what you had.

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Speaker 2: Saw out there practice.

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Speaker 3: And I think that is gonna bowl well for him

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Speaker 3: now you know, see me, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Sydney got.

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Speaker 6: But if he's not RB two, all right, If he's

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Speaker 6: not you know, solidified as that running back too, he's not,

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Speaker 6: So is he just gonna be a gadget guy RB three?

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Speaker 4: So how many touches is RB three get? And he

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Speaker 4: will put RB three in there?

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Speaker 3: For if they said we're gonna run the ball as

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Speaker 3: much as McCarthy said, he's gonna run the ball, and

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Speaker 3: depending on how it starts with the offensive line, I

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Speaker 3: think we'll be running the ball a lot. So, putting

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Speaker 3: in context the game on Saturday, there were twenty two rushes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just say.

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Speaker 3: In a normal game, if you have twenty two touches,

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Speaker 3: the majority of those are gonna be taken by Tony

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Speaker 3: Pollard getting seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Eight he is seventeen eighteens.

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Speaker 3: Then you're distributing those in between Duce and Ronald Rico

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Speaker 3: dall or whoever else. Hold on, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 3: hold on, listen. I think that's fairy. But just like

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Speaker 3: Tony poul and Zeke, if you got a guy that's

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Speaker 3: getting the game doing what deuce deal if he plays

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Speaker 3: against he comes out in week one and he plays

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Speaker 3: like he played on Saturday. All right, you're gonna tell

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Speaker 3: me we're gonna sit here and say nah, because he's

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Speaker 3: RB three, he can only get two carris. So you're

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Speaker 3: gonna say, we're gonna put this guy in the game

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Speaker 3: and see what he can do. Because he's he's obviously

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Speaker 5: But that's why a Duce Vaughan is gonna make this

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Speaker 3: We all agreement that duce Von stock is I'll get

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Speaker 4: He's off all he's off. He has made the team.

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Speaker 3: And you are saying that Urping is for sure on

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Speaker 2: He made the Pro Bowl even with the fumbling issues.

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Speaker 4: Little made the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Fossil is Fossil has juice. Fossil's got juice. But right now,

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Speaker 5: if you don't have Turping there, who's doing it?

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Speaker 3: They kicked them if they kicked the ball to deuce

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Speaker 2: What he can do.

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Speaker 3: But those are the type of as we said, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Won, he could catch the ball, he could get so

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Speaker 5: but I put the turps on for me, Turples on

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 5: But but to me, Turping and vond to me, these

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 3: If you put duce Von out there the return kicks

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Speaker 5: And give Will McLay and the scouting scouting department credit

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Speaker 4: Who fits what it is you do? This young man,

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Speaker 5: Right culture, he's got the right attitude, Texas native cowboy fan,

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Speaker 5: Once again, who do you look at that you say

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Speaker 5: Jabrill Cox is a guy who I could see not

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Speaker 5: But I don't anticipate Mike playing a lot of starters,

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Speaker 3: You can see that they know what they're doing, that

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Speaker 3: He looked great, all right, And like I said, it's

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Speaker 3: So he looked, he looked good. I think him, Lady

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Speaker 5: For UK translator does the thing that translated from Auctionar

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Speaker 3: For you being a former safety, we've talked about your

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Speaker 6: As you see on the preseason game. Well, the more

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Speaker 3: he's a guy that came in last season with the

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Speaker 3: neck injury. They were not really expecting a lot from him.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of playing time out of him last season,

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Speaker 3: but especially in camp and in the preseason. Man, you

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Speaker 3: see why dan Quinn was high on this guy with

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Speaker 3: just his broad athletic ability.

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Speaker 5: I go back to Michael Parsons who said, I'm challenging

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Speaker 5: guys to come meet meet the challenge that lie backer room.

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Speaker 5: You know, you still have Parsons in it. So here's

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Speaker 5: Parsons and that thing is gone down here and it's

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Speaker 5: just kind of rolling out. He got Lake Vandersh's talking

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Speaker 5: super Bowl and he's looking good out here.

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Speaker 4: So I think these guys are all.

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Speaker 2: It's all.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to be the one right not making

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Speaker 5: play it because you don't want me the want to

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Speaker 5: get talked about.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you want to incurred a wrath of

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Speaker 5: Michael Parson, you know, who could be a little bit bully,

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Speaker 5: you know at times about what he's expecting here. So

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Speaker 5: I think they've got a standard and you see everybody

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Speaker 5: trying to meet that standard in that room. And give

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Speaker 5: credit to coach Scott McCurley, give him some credit here

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Speaker 5: about what we're seeing so far that I can't say

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Speaker 5: that it translated, which was.

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Speaker 4: My biggest concern.

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Speaker 5: I'm seeing all this stuff here Okay, well we see

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Speaker 5: it at at and T Stadium.

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Speaker 4: So far we've seen it.

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Speaker 5: I love the fact that they've got one more week

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Speaker 5: in California. Now go take what you have. For the

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Speaker 5: guys who check the boxes that were playing and you know,

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Speaker 5: go trending up, can he do it again? And for

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Speaker 5: the guys who may have trended down, can you fix it?

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Speaker 5: I think this is another key week here for backup players.

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Speaker 5: And that's what Cowboy fans have to really get into.

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Speaker 5: They know pretty much the guys they want to get out.

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Speaker 5: Parsons is gonna be fine, is gonna be fine? Can

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Speaker 5: these other guys who at some point in this season

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Speaker 5: are going to have to help this football team. Can

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Speaker 5: they get him out there? Get him going? And I

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Speaker 5: think that's where Mike McCarthy hasn't got enough credit hacking

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Speaker 5: for just his ability to develop these young players. And

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Speaker 5: we're seeing dudes who come in here and they're getting

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Speaker 5: it done, which is to me, that's exciting. That's exciting

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Speaker 5: because in the salary cat world, knowing you're gonna have

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Speaker 5: to pay some folks around here, it's about to be

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Speaker 5: what you know it was. It predos A eighty twenty

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Speaker 5: it's about to be ninety five to five.

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Speaker 3: Here, and this is an easy subject for you, LSU linebacker, So.

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen.

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Speaker 3: He started okay against the starters, and he was a

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Speaker 3: standout guy. You look at the first eight players of

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Speaker 3: the game. I think he made tackles on four or

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Speaker 3: five of them. It was a round the ball on

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Speaker 3: the rest of them. All right. I think what happens

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Speaker 3: is some people may have forgotten that the moon Clark

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Speaker 3: was the guy.

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Speaker 2: LSU. He was the guy.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about like Michael Parsons and saying, live

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Speaker 3: up to the standard. The standard for Damon Clark has

501
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Speaker 3: always been high, right, and then he comes in last

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Speaker 3: year where he probably expected to play a little bit

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Speaker 3: more and do a little better, and now he's like,

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Speaker 3: I got my full year. I finna show these dudes

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Speaker 3: what I can do, like I should be starting. And

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Speaker 3: you could tell that like that was his mindset when

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Speaker 3: he was out there in the game. The dude was

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Speaker 3: all over the place and this is etn he was tackling,

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Speaker 3: this is he was out there. He was out there balling.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, make sure everbody's lined up

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Speaker 3: in the rights. But he was doing everything that he

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Speaker 3: needed to do. And it was exciting to see because

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Speaker 3: I say this, I met him at Brady James House

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Speaker 3: and he was telling me, Hey, man, I was like, so,

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Speaker 3: what's different about here in l s U. He was like, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, L s U. It's college. It was the thing.

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Speaker 3: We could do whatever we want to. That's fine. We

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Speaker 3: were going to go out there. We're still gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to play to our best. I've gotten here and

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Speaker 3: I've stopped drinking, I've stopped doing all the extra stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm just focused on football. And then you see him

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Speaker 3: go out there and the words, I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you you're right the man that he was an LSU

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Speaker 3: because I'm saying you watched an old L s U

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Speaker 3: tape when he was there.

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Speaker 2: He was the guy on defense.

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Speaker 4: And it has to be this way?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Get ready pay Mike Parsons.

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Speaker 5: That's what You've got to get these younger players to

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Speaker 5: come in here and get them under contract at a

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Speaker 5: at a nice low price for a few years, because hey,

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Speaker 5: this Parsons is gonna cost Oh yeah, you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be h He's gonna back up the breaks truck.

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Speaker 4: This is quarter But he's gonna even get quarterback money.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know he's not giving them discount.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, BC, When you looked at the starting lineup on

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Speaker 3: defense for the Dallas Cowboys, you had Dante Fowler, had

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Speaker 3: Sam Williams, Williams. You had guys on our quote unquote

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Speaker 3: non starters going out there that are legitimate first you know,

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Speaker 3: first team guys that are clogging these reps and that

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you how deep that linebacker Rulemans. But the

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Speaker 3: job that they did on Saturday, what you think about

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Speaker 3: and will you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I think they played outstanding.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like Williams is, I think he's gonna

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Speaker 6: just continue to get better and better. He already has

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Speaker 6: a size, he already has the build and athletic ability

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Speaker 6: to be a dominant edge rusher out here. I think

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Speaker 6: he'll just continue to get better and better as he follows,

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Speaker 6: you know, like a Micah Parsons or a d Law

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Speaker 6: out there. And and like you said, the second team

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Speaker 6: for this defense right now could be a starting defense

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Speaker 6: for any other team in the National Football League. I mean,

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Speaker 6: when you got Dante Fowler, who has a you know,

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Speaker 6: a career year sack when he had thirteen sacks in

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Speaker 6: one year. You got Sam Williams coming off the edge.

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Speaker 6: Just imagine what you can do at that linebacker position.

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Speaker 6: When you got your dying package, you can have just

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Speaker 6: Themond Clark Overshan right there. I mean, it's gonna be outstanding.

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Speaker 6: I'm extremely excited to what this defense can bring to

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Speaker 6: the table.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take our first break, but when we come back,

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Speaker 3: Hey, we're about we're about to go into this and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about leverage and all that.

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Speaker 2: They saw enough I got the count was all pro guard.

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Speaker 3: Zach Martin reaches agreement, reworked his deal. It's now worth

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Speaker 3: up to eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 2: So he got his moneyball.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you knew it had to happen.

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Speaker 2: He got his moneyball.

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Speaker 3: And you know what you were talking about that at

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Speaker 3: the break, you were asking that question about the offensive line,

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Speaker 3: and I think what happened Zach Martin's absence and everybody

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Speaker 3: seeing what was going on at the right guard position,

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Speaker 3: it was like, enough is enough, let's play is playing

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Speaker 3: with this and let's get Zach back.

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Speaker 2: And to be like yeah, crazy enough.

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Speaker 5: So when you say reworked, but eighteen mil is not

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Speaker 5: the twenty, this this this this is doable.

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Speaker 4: Okay? Doable?

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Speaker 6: Is it thirteen and a half okay?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we scheduled to be a thirteen yeah, and fourteen.

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Speaker 5: So now it's an additional eight point five plus million.

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Speaker 5: So so now you're gonna get paid up north to

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Speaker 5: eighteen for the next two years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but look definitely that the line play on.

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Speaker 2: Gloss that.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, you gotta he better come in with a

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Speaker 4: bag of everybody. And thanks gosh, Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank.

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Speaker 5: You, because I'm sure you know somebody upside he went

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Speaker 5: up there, Shanhaimer the play calling, Hey, hey, what saying

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Speaker 5: is suing all that posturing?

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Speaker 4: Ain't nobody door got new?

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Speaker 2: We care talking about leverage, leverage. We're just gonna move on,

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Speaker 2: you know, future value current. Yeah, their phone called me.

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Speaker 4: You know this one. This was real simple this you

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Speaker 4: know what happened.

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Speaker 5: Game happened, game, the game happened, and it was yeah

658
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Speaker 5: about that. Somebody went up there to closed the door.

659
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: Got that leverage, you know, so what is he?

660
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: What do you want?

661
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: We wanted to let the young guys be. Okay, you

662
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: know what, Boss, We showed you, Boss. We let the

663
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: young guys play.

664
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: But you saw, boss, this is this is we we

665
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 5: we This is as good a you're gonna get. And

666
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 5: this is this is the beauty of John Taylor, great

667
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 5: cowboy right always said.

668
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: Sports is fluid.

669
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, sports is fluid, and you know that Saturday made

670
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: it real fluid.

671
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: So all of a sudden, whatever they were thinking, lever,

672
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: we're here, we're not.

673
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I guess we really don't have to

674
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: talk about.

675
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: The Josh Ball Josh Josh Boll seventy five may not make.

676
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna look, so how do you how do.

677
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: You keep dousing? Turn seventy five?

678
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 5: Seventy five seventy five might be on the street street.

679
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: But as much as you credit this off, this this

680
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: this coaching staff for developing players, and they've given this

681
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: guy a lot of leeway Josh Ball to make the

682
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: squad with injury, Well, let's go. But it's specifically number

683
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: seven five, moving him from tackle back inside the guard.

684
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: It's just never has developed for him as a player.

685
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: And I'm telling y'all Saturday, when I was watching, I'm like, whoa,

686
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: you know, look, I know this guy is getting reps

687
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: and he's probably getting better through the reps and he's

688
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: getting but that ain't.

689
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: It, brother, I don't have it. And somebody somebody took

690
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: the cover. Somebody took the cover off the button.

691
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna smash that.

692
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 5: Enough, got Zach Marpain, Zach better bring him some bring

693
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: you a good old goodie bad thanks.

694
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: You watch that game and you know what you could

695
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: be and you know what could hold you back, and

696
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: then you make that phone call.

697
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 5: Well, look, well we know this when the draft, like

698
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 5: everybody don't make it. Yeah, that makes you right at

699
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: everybody to make it. Everyone deserves the opportunity to fail.

700
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, an opportunity to fail.

701
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: He may still make it, but right now, and maybe

702
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 5: they even a trade or what not, but.

703
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: Right now, clearly clearly.

704
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Balls who drave the mall.

705
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: We've seen enough people roll out of here who've gone

706
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 5: from the cowboys, who've gone on and played other places.

707
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: The government's gone on, got paid.

708
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: Remember Big Corey couldn't find the field here, ended up going.

709
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Gus was up there starting for the cold.

710
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: So we have seen guys leave here and go places,

711
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 5: and and even if they're just backup players, we've seen

712
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: them be able to go. And so don't starting is

713
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: one thing. But can he be on somebody squad in

714
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: the NFL as a backup player?

715
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Yes?

716
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: The offensive the offensive line left a lot to be desired.

717
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: I mean there was there were some things that was

718
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: happening that obviously they That's why Zach Martin.

719
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: There you go. They make those adjustments. What we're gonna do.

720
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna blow through this second break and go all

721
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: the way through.

722
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

723
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: But I want to talk to you because I know

724
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: your favorite subject Nwie is Jalen Tober JT Money did

725
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: his thing, made some plays and you can see the

726
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: confidence though, you can see the confidence in the player

727
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: that is. First year, his confidence was zero.

728
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 5: We talked about this on the show. Just a guy

729
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: who who could improve? Who could And he's done everything

730
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 5: you need to do. He's been here, he's gotten the coaches,

731
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: McCarthy shot and hiring, You've gone him, been around dock.

732
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: He's done his part. As much as we saw. Terror

733
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: still improved from that first year because it was he

734
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: had a tough first year. He improved it the second year.

735
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: So right now, Jalen Tolbert's on track to do that

736
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: mother guy.

737
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: So much you other guy sim boss man fat.

738
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: I just I just I just I'm just saying, guys,

739
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: two guys, I'm like, maybe we could see you know.

740
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 5: I was looking like, what can you do this year

741
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: with you know, with us? I was looking at Ball,

742
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 5: could he get better? I was looking at Tolbert could

743
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 5: he get better. He's looking at Kevin Jones. Could he

744
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: get better?

745
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: Right out? Only one of him's gotten better?

746
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: Can I ask you some Okay, going into that game

747
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: on Saturday, your expectation for boss Man fact Kelvin Joseph

748
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: was what because now, because what you just said was

749
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: I was looking at him saying, okay, this could probably

750
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: maybe going into the game on Saturday, what was your expectation.

751
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: Of I was down on the left Oxun. I just

752
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: didn't have much.

753
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: But he didn't have a PPU Kelvin Joseph had. I

754
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: just the best thing he could do is hang out

755
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: with CJ. Goo and and just trying to have that role.

756
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 5: It's so so once again you start talking about turping Vaughn.

757
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 5: You got a better shot of letting Kelvin Joseph go

758
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 5: and bringing him back to your roster.

759
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: So to me, it's gonna be.

760
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: Guys like that.

761
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be guys like that.

762
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: You're not letting two guys go who are going to

763
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: get snatched up. You're gonna be looking at guys like

764
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 5: a Cynity, like a Kelvin Joseph, like a Josh Baul

765
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 5: that you can put him out there and you go

766
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 5: bring him back in because they've got wards that maybe

767
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 5: somebody else that's too many wards for me. I didn't

768
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: see enough on tape that I want. But there's just

769
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: been some things that camp, some of these guys like Tolbert,

770
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 5: what you saw at Oxnart, it translated, it did it translated,

771
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: And that's a really good thing because to me, right

772
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: now he's your number four, hands down, right now, he's

773
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 5: the four. And so if he's the four, that's where

774
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 5: a guy like said, send me in trouble man, because

775
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: Turf is gonna be in there.

776
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: So that's fine.

777
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: That is that's it Brooks.

778
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: While Brooks didn't have a game, we thought the way

779
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: it didn't translate from camp, but it Brooks brings them

780
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 5: something and he's playing special teams.

781
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: That may be his way on.

782
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: But for you, two guys that went undrafted, that had

783
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: to completely break your back to get on to the

784
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: active roster. And I'm sure when you're watching preseason games

785
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: you're looking for that underdog, you're looking for you in

786
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: a player. Basically, was there anyone that that everybody's kind

787
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: of flew under the radar that you said, you know, what.

788
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 3: This guy has a legitimate chance with all of these

789
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: talented players on this roster, to possibly make the roster.

790
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: You know, let's go back to can I go back

791
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: to Kevin Jones. I'm gonna go back to Kevin Jones

792
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: just for a second because I want to continue to

793
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: make sure I emphasize that I think Kevin Joseph can

794
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: play football in the National Football League. I think trying

795
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: to make him be the player that he was in

796
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: college at the cornerback position is it's gonna take a

797
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: lot longer than they have time to allow him to

798
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: try to stay on the roster for I really think

799
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: as I was watching him in the game, I didn't

800
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: even watch him at cornerback. I just watched him play gunner.

801
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: And I want to watch him run down on any

802
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: other special team that he was on.

803
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: I saw him get double teed, double team. I saw him.

804
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: Continue to fight through and make sure he was continuing

805
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: to be a difference maker on special teams. And I

806
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: think that for him and this is no shot at

807
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: his ability to play cornerback for him right now, I

808
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: think the most important thing for him is he need

809
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: to go in and say, hey, coach, I want to

810
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 3: be the best I can be on special teams. If

811
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: that means that y'all need to do whatever y'all got

812
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: to do to make sure that I can be more

813
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: focused and y'all can get more reps of me on

814
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: special teams, then that's what I want to do. I

815
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: think that is the pass away for you to be

816
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: on the roster, because if you keep trying what you

817
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: try to Jacksonville, right, it's like, okay, well we're gonna

818
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: play them at cornerback and then we'll see if we

819
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: lose something at special teams, and then you lose it both.

820
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: Now you have a real issue. And I say that

821
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: because I went through. I went through that exact thing.

822
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 3: I was starting safety. Jody had me on all special

823
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: teams and we was out there playing all of them

824
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: and finally they were like, hey, you go back to

825
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: special teams.

826
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 5: Could it be a situation where it's c J, Goodwin,

827
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 5: Kelvin Joseph as a choice that they make for the

828
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 5: fifty three?

829
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: Could be I don't see why you wouldn't pick CJ.

830
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: Your locker room gotto, your locker room got CJ. You

831
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: would have the most impact of the locker room by

832
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: him leaving than you would Kevin Joseph, I believe. And

833
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: the intriguing thing about Kelvin Joseph, it's just where he

834
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: was where he was drafted.

835
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: You know. I think if it was if it if

836
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: it didn't have anything to do with.

837
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: Where he was drafted, I think it's not even you're

838
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: not even thinking about this and having a conversation on

839
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: especially with guys like Eric Scott Junior, who you know

840
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: that that are obviously coming around and doing some really

841
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: good things. But and I was asking y'all that question

842
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: about guys that are going under the radar, Guys like

843
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: John Stevens, the tight end that you see that football.

844
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: You know, guys like Isaiah Land the defensive end that

845
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: are making plays may not be someone that you're thinking

846
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: about to say it's gonna make this squad, but you

847
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: see some of those guys actually making plays and doing

848
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: some pretty good work.

849
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough.

850
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 6: I'mnna be honest, but it's gonna be tough for the

851
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 6: under underdogs on the defensive side.

852
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: Of the football.

853
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 6: I mean, when you talk about depth everywhere, there's only

854
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 6: so many spots you can have on a team.

855
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: So it's just gonna be.

856
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 6: Extremely hard for those guys to scratch the service and

857
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 6: get in there. I mean, you look how deep we

858
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 6: are on the defensive line, the linebacker room now that

859
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 6: we see with Overshan coming in secondary, I mean, it's

860
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 6: it's gonna be extremely hard to make this football team,

861
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 6: especially from a guy that's you know, doesn't have the pedigree.

862
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: It just kind of showing up.

863
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: It's it's gonna be tough.

864
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 6: To crack this team as an undrafted guy, I think.

865
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: And then our situation, you have to go back and

866
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: remember its Church always says the depth of the position

867
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: when we got here was was really light. Okay, they

868
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: drafted what's who I saying the fourth it was me

869
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: and Church a Quasi was hurt coming into rookie Minnie

870
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: Camp and Mike Hamler got hurt, Pat Watkins was injured.

871
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: Like we had the dominoes fall in our favor, like

872
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 3: all the way through for us to get on the roster.

873
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: And I don't think you don't see that now it's

874
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: too deep.

875
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 6: They's too deep right now, deep and young They're too

876
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 6: deep and young man.

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Speaker 3: And obviously you know, look we still have two preseason

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Speaker 3: games left, and all of these count anything that you're

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Speaker 3: looking for here in these last two preseason games.

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Speaker 4: Kicks, man, you can't miss the extras.

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Speaker 5: You cannot miss the extra points. So to me, that's

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Speaker 5: something you got it. You have to look at here

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Speaker 5: the NFL. Too many games are coming down the field

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Speaker 5: goals here, and at a certain point time they've also

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Speaker 5: got to figure out what is his range?

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Speaker 4: Okay, is Maker was.

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Speaker 5: A guy that you could sit out there for a

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Speaker 5: fifty yard field goal. So that's your next thing with

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Speaker 5: this kid, is okay, can you make extra points? And

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Speaker 5: can we find out what is your range before they

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Speaker 5: go out and make some decision on trying to bring

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Speaker 5: a vetter.

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Speaker 3: Ninety nine problems in kickers still one of them.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that we are still.

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Speaker 3: Going through this with the kick of his Kay was

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Speaker 3: the guy that we had in OTA's He doesn't make

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Speaker 3: it through training camp and here we are, man, still

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Speaker 3: talking about the kicking position. Well, man, we got a

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Speaker 3: hard two thirty out on this, and so look, we'll

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Speaker 3: be back here on the Players Lounge at on Wednesday

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Speaker 3: at one o'clock. Nowise Scruggs is back in the building.

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Speaker 3: Danny McCrae is back in the building. The man over

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Speaker 3: there is Pocket's got the mumps is in the building.

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Speaker 2: BC is in the the camp man people know.

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Speaker 3: Man, we'll start, you'll finish this thing like we need

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Speaker 3: go the Cowboy. This has been the players, lads, We'll

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Speaker 3: see you rock bottom. This has been a production of

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