WEBVTT - Ep. 54: Sense of Urgency for Must-Win Week 17 | Jags A.M. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Jobs. Welcome into Jagsam today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind Nannie Stevens, John Osier, and Brian sexsoner with

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<v Speaker 2>me here today as we get ready to go over

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty tough holiday weekend for Jags fans, as Jags

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<v Speaker 2>lost their fourth game in a row to the Bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>and after the game, Trevor Lawrence pretty much at a

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<v Speaker 2>loss for words.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really embarrassing and frustrating. And you put a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of work in to do that, and to look like

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<v Speaker 3>you don't even practice. I mean, that's what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 3>which is, you know, it's got a call like you

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<v Speaker 3>see it sometimes. I mean, it's it's bad all the

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<v Speaker 3>way around. So we gotta find ways to get better.

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta get out of our own way. It just

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<v Speaker 3>feels like everything's so different right now. I just do

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<v Speaker 3>simple things, you know, make the simple place. Just get

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<v Speaker 3>back to doing what we what we've done this season

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<v Speaker 3>at points and when we were playing well and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we know we have we have what it takes, but

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we haven't the last month. So at the

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<v Speaker 3>most important times, we got to play better and we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into our big things here today. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the first big thing is this team is reeling right now.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a winless December thus far, they lost four games,

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<v Speaker 2>and as you heard Trevor say, feels like the team

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<v Speaker 2>looks like they don't practice. Now he hasn't practiced because

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<v Speaker 2>of injuries, but the rest of the team has. Doug

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<v Speaker 2>Peterson tried to figure out exactly what Turyor's trying to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and when.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't practice, maybe he feels that way, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And I can I can see that right when when

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<v Speaker 4>when your quarterback doesn't get the reps he needs during

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<v Speaker 4>the week and you're trying to get the mental reps

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<v Speaker 4>for him, and he's also working on you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>concussion protocol and then getting cleared from that. So there,

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<v Speaker 4>I can see where he would say something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>But listen, you guys are you guys are in practice.

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<v Speaker 4>You see the the way the way we go and

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<v Speaker 4>what we've done, and you know, the guys are working

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<v Speaker 4>hard and and but you know we've got some new

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<v Speaker 4>faces on offense that yeah, they they've they've gotta they've

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<v Speaker 4>gotta you know, they've got to pay attention to if

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing kills and alerts and different things at the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, wants to get us into They've got to

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<v Speaker 4>pay attention, They've got to focus and lock in.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, those are some strong words from Trevor about what

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<v Speaker 2>the team's been looking like lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the disconnect here?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look for me, I was glad to see him

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<v Speaker 5>express that frustration out loud. He has since his rookie

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<v Speaker 5>season when things were way off the rails, always been

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<v Speaker 5>the guy who says the right thing and keeps the

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<v Speaker 5>focus on the team. To be honest with you, John,

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking for sort of a Patrick Mahomes moment,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, that one at the end of that Bills

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<v Speaker 5>game that the Chiefs lost, that Air had a few

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<v Speaker 5>weeks ago where he went nuts on the sideline and

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<v Speaker 5>was so angry about his team. I get it. People

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<v Speaker 5>express their frustration in different ways, but to me, this

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<v Speaker 5>was just as far as Trevor has gone down that

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<v Speaker 5>road of pointing out the deficiencies and not seeming to

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<v Speaker 5>worry too much about who cared about what he said.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's important because it's his team. This

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<v Speaker 5>is on him. He's the leader, and if he's frustrated

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<v Speaker 5>in expressing it to the media, you know he's doing

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<v Speaker 5>it to his teammates and that gives them a chance

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<v Speaker 5>to make the correction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was his version of you know what

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<v Speaker 6>Mahomes did at the end of the game. Look, he's

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<v Speaker 6>not without fault, the pocket stuff, the losing the fumbles.

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<v Speaker 6>At some point that has to stop or minimize. It's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna happen. But a lot of the miscommunications with receivers.

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<v Speaker 6>There's so much to dig into with Trevor's performance, but

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<v Speaker 6>so much of it not practicing. All that stuff feels

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<v Speaker 6>like it's adding up a little bit. I wish I

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<v Speaker 6>had one sentence that could sum up the lead of

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<v Speaker 6>this section. Reeling they are, but again it's still not irvy,

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<v Speaker 6>It's still in first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well silver lining, they are reeling for sure. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to our second big thing, which is another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence had a tough performance against the Bucks, and

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<v Speaker 2>he left that game with another injury as an ac

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<v Speaker 2>sprain to his right his throwing shoulder, and that's his

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<v Speaker 2>fourth injury so far this season. Doug Peterson talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the violent nature of the game and how he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with his hurt quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>My injuries are going to happen and especially to the

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback position. You know, all the all the injuries that

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<v Speaker 4>that he has sustained are all you know, all all hits,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, all contact stuff, and and it's it's part

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<v Speaker 4>of it, you know, And that's that's his style, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's his aggressiveness and and you know, he's he's been

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<v Speaker 4>fortunate enough to bounce back from all of them. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we'll see as he goes this week where

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<v Speaker 4>he's at. But you know, we've been fortunate that he's

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<v Speaker 4>been able to be available every every week so far.

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<v Speaker 2>John, we don't know what exactly Trevor's availability is going

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<v Speaker 2>to practice this week, but you have to imagine he'll

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<v Speaker 2>be limited in some respect. Is this going to get

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<v Speaker 2>much better if he's not out there practicing, Well.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's I guess that's the only concern I

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<v Speaker 6>would have. If he's practicing during the week, or it

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<v Speaker 6>would practice a little bit, then I have no problem

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<v Speaker 6>with gutting it through and then playing. The problem is,

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<v Speaker 6>in the last couple of times he has played without practice,

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<v Speaker 6>it hasn't looked good, and there's been miscommunications. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know if they're on him, if they're on receivers. My senses.

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<v Speaker 6>Some of the interceptions, they were more on receivers. But

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<v Speaker 6>if that's causing lack of communication in the offense, then

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<v Speaker 6>you do wonder if he doesn't practice at all this week,

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<v Speaker 6>do you again roll him out and start him. I

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<v Speaker 6>probably would because he's still the guy, and I still

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<v Speaker 6>think he gives you the best chance to win. But

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<v Speaker 6>the non practice would give me more pause than I

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<v Speaker 6>have felt on this issue so far.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he had three turnovers on Sunday, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>practice last week with the head, had three turnovers in

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<v Speaker 5>Cleveland the week he did in practice with the ankle.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you don't have to really extrapolate too far

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<v Speaker 5>to realize that Trevor Lee Lawrence needs time to practice. Now, Maibe,

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<v Speaker 5>you're want to look deeper into it. You can say

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<v Speaker 5>that he would be better without practice if as on

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<v Speaker 5>that Thursday night in New Orleans, he had Christian Kirk

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<v Speaker 5>and he had Zay Jones, and he had his offensive

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<v Speaker 5>line at full strength. That's the trouble is he's out

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<v Speaker 5>there throwing to Elijah Cooks, Parker Washington, Tim Jones. The

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<v Speaker 5>time he isn't there. The familiarity isn't there. They don't

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<v Speaker 5>get time on the practice field. So there's I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a huge variable. But John, if you're gonna roll

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<v Speaker 5>him out there coming off a concussion in Tampa, if

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<v Speaker 5>he's able to play at all, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 5>you wouldn't put him out there and give him a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to get you over the hump. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the playoff scenarios roll out interesting. You know, if the

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<v Speaker 5>Jaguars don't win this weekend, the other two teams do,

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<v Speaker 5>it's really dicey for them to even make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>So my guess is they're gonna find a way to

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<v Speaker 5>get him on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Our final big thing today is time for a change

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<v Speaker 2>because so obviously it's not just the quarterback that's having issues.

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<v Speaker 2>There's issues everywhere, coaching staff, players, both sides of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>special teams, and Doug was asked if you know he

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<v Speaker 2>should shake things up a little bit, make a big change,

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<v Speaker 2>start doing the play calling again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got to do a better job at taking care

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<v Speaker 4>of the football. It's not about the plays, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>about all that. You know, We've got to tackle better

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<v Speaker 4>and we got to take care of the football. Bottom line,

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<v Speaker 4>we do those two things. Those give us a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to win football games. If we don't, then then we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be sitting here, you know, talking about this again.

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<v Speaker 4>So to me, that's that's the glaring, the glaring differences

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<v Speaker 4>right now between between winning and losing.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Doug was very emphatic that when things go wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody points to the finger, but he feels like those

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<v Speaker 2>two things are the main issues for them right now.

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<v Speaker 5>To agree with that, yeah, I mean, all you do

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<v Speaker 5>is watch the game on Sunday and you saw those things,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, roll out the week before. They have ten

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<v Speaker 5>turnovers in these four losses, only five takeaways. And how

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<v Speaker 5>many times on third down and short has there been

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<v Speaker 5>a mistackle been allowed the quarterback or the other team

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<v Speaker 5>to keep his offense on the field and make plays.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I can tell you stories about Tom Kaughlin and

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<v Speaker 5>John about Tony Dungeye. The great coaches believed in familiarity.

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<v Speaker 5>They wanted these players to know exactly what they were

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to do. You go shaking things up and changing things,

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<v Speaker 5>little things, fine, big things like who's calling the plays.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't do it at this point of the year.

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<v Speaker 5>And let's be honest, John, Doug has had a hand

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<v Speaker 5>in the play calling from the start of the season.

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<v Speaker 5>This has not just been all right, throw it to

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<v Speaker 5>Press Taylor. These two men know each other so well.

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<v Speaker 5>There's such an intricacy between their relationship. This is not

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<v Speaker 5>the time where you go, all right, well, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>do it all by myself. You want to keep things

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<v Speaker 5>familiar for this team so that they don't panic because

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<v Speaker 5>major reactions by a coach in process that creates the

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<v Speaker 5>knee jerk feeling like, well, here we go. I guess

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<v Speaker 5>everything's on the table now. You do that kind of

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<v Speaker 5>stuff in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 6>It's always play calling in the NFL. So I'd like

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<v Speaker 6>to say, because people love to criticize that, I have

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<v Speaker 6>not talked to Doug privately about the difference between between

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<v Speaker 6>him and Press. I think after fifteen games, if he

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<v Speaker 6>thought there was a huge difference, a huge difference in

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<v Speaker 6>quality of play calling, he would have quote taken it back.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he looks at it and says, the offensive

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<v Speaker 6>line isn't run blocking very well. When you don't run block,

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<v Speaker 6>when you don't have the option to run, it limits

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<v Speaker 6>you as a play caller, no matter who you are.

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<v Speaker 6>And when you look at that fundamental. He didn't say

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<v Speaker 6>that on Monday or on Tuesday, but if you look

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<v Speaker 6>at that fundamental, if you look at the lack of tackling,

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<v Speaker 6>and if you look at the turnovers, I think if

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<v Speaker 6>those three things were you know, if there're two's, now,

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<v Speaker 6>if they were sixes, I think you'd be winning games.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's what he's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To focus on.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, we got the perfect example of why it's

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<v Speaker 5>not play calling, and that was the twelve yard laws

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<v Speaker 5>on Calvin Ridley reverse. Were Tim Jones, who's in the game,

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<v Speaker 5>blocks or misses a block entirely on Yah Yah Dabby

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<v Speaker 5>the pass rusher who drops Calvin for the big loss?

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<v Speaker 5>Was that Press Taylor that missed that block? No, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems you want to yell at the television and

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<v Speaker 5>say that's a horrible play call. Well not if it worked.

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<v Speaker 5>It worked, and they obviously thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 5>based on what they saw.

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<v Speaker 6>The no issues plays that don't work stink bright.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, w it's one. They showed it over and over

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<v Speaker 5>and over and you see Tim Jones just with on

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<v Speaker 5>the block. That's execution. That's what Doug is talking about

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<v Speaker 5>when everybody wants to say, why would you call that play?

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<v Speaker 5>And well, look watch it and see what really happened.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a press Taylor's fall. It was Tim Jones

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<v Speaker 5>who missed the block. Those sorts of things drive you crazy,

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<v Speaker 5>and you can't just react to all the outside noise.

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<v Speaker 5>They've got to stick with what they know and what

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<v Speaker 5>they do and try to do it better.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say it might be on the fan side

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<v Speaker 2>with this one because I don't want to see the

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<v Speaker 2>end around reverses anymore either, because I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of them, I haven't seen many of them work.

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<v Speaker 2>I see them run it a lot, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of it work. So we'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>see if they use that again. Coming up this week

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<v Speaker 2>against the Panthers, we're gonna go over the injury report

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<v Speaker 2>cause we've got a few more names on there and

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<v Speaker 2>on this Wednesday, so we get ready for the final

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<v Speaker 2>game in December. We're trying to make this not a

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<v Speaker 2>winless December, not a winless month. They're own four right now.

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<v Speaker 2>They have one more game that's gonna be against the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers this week, and it's looked on the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>like it was gonna be a pretty easy matchup. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think any of us thought we were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be at this point where now you don't feel one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred confident going into this game.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and the injury list is certainly a big part

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<v Speaker 5>of that, but also the fact that the Panthers are

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<v Speaker 5>playing well. You know, they beat the Falcons two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 5>and last week was arguably Bryce Young's best game as

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<v Speaker 5>a pro in that loss, thirty three thirty was the

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<v Speaker 5>final to the Green Bay Packers. So you've got a

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<v Speaker 5>team coming down here who's playing with a rookie quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>and an interim head coach against a team that has

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<v Speaker 5>to win to get into the playoffs. Where have we

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<v Speaker 5>heard that scenario before?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're I mean, at this point, the Panthers are

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<v Speaker 6>just having fun. You know, they know there's a change

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<v Speaker 6>coming at the end of the season. They're loose. They've

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<v Speaker 6>done a nice job started recovering from the malays of

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<v Speaker 6>the first three months, but it's a broken record at

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<v Speaker 6>this point. The storyline is more about what the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 6>are gonna do. Are they going to show up? Frankly,

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<v Speaker 6>Sunday was as listless of performance as I've seen out

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<v Speaker 6>of this team, and I don't know how long with

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<v Speaker 6>everything on the line, that really surprised me. So can

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<v Speaker 6>they show up? And Doug Peterson after the game sense

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<v Speaker 6>of urgency That is far more concerned to me than

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<v Speaker 6>anything the Panthers do.

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<v Speaker 5>No knocking the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think it's about how the Jaguars play and frankly,

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<v Speaker 6>do they show.

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<v Speaker 2>Up right, because if they come out with the effort

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<v Speaker 2>we saw on Tampa, that's not gonna be good. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to mention we've talked about Trevor's added on

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<v Speaker 2>his fourth injury so far this season, but there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of injured players and Daniel Thomas has been added

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<v Speaker 2>to that. He went to IR because of a forearm injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Broke his left arm, so he'll be out for the

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<v Speaker 2>foreseeable future. Cam Robinson is going to be activated. He

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<v Speaker 2>was activated Tuesday, so his windows available and Doug Peterson

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<v Speaker 2>talked and said, if everything looks good, they're hopefully gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get Cammed back this Sunday against Carolina. And something I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at too, is a little bit John. We

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<v Speaker 2>were discussing Tyson Campbell and Andre Cisco. They both missed

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<v Speaker 2>time with those soft tissue injuries, and we didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>them much in the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>So how hurt are they? And you know, if they

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<v Speaker 1>are needed to play a full game.

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<v Speaker 6>Where they can be able to do that, you would

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<v Speaker 6>think not playing a second half on Sunday. Soft tissue

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<v Speaker 6>is something that can be aggravated through fatigue. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>we're down twenty nothing, We're not playing very well. Nobody

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<v Speaker 6>else showed up anyway, So why have these guys get hurt?

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<v Speaker 6>That feels to me like that At the same time,

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<v Speaker 6>they've both dealt with this for a Tyson, it feels

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<v Speaker 6>like all season Cisco the last few weeks. Could they

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<v Speaker 6>make it through a whole game if they're putting strain

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<v Speaker 6>on those soft tissue spots. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 6>would assume they would have played further had the score

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<v Speaker 6>been closer on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that we'll know that getting Cam Robinson

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<v Speaker 5>back would be a huge left right. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 5>he brings in terms of his personality, you can't deny

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<v Speaker 5>when he got into the line up there, they started

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<v Speaker 5>playing better football. So you'd like to have him back,

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<v Speaker 5>especially because Walker Little is still struggling with the hamstring injury.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, maybe a week of rehabilitation and time on

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<v Speaker 5>the practice field, you at least I would expect that

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<v Speaker 5>Cisco and Tyson are gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the way the scenarios roll out, if the

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<v Speaker 5>Jaguars don't win on Sunday and both the Texans who

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<v Speaker 5>are playing in Nashville and the Colts, who are hosting

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<v Speaker 5>the Raiders win, you're out right. I mean, the scenario

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<v Speaker 5>has become very there. There's sixteen things that have to

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<v Speaker 5>happen for the Jaguars, including them winning in Nashville at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the season, for them to even make

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<v Speaker 5>it as a wildcard team. So this is as much

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<v Speaker 5>of a must win as they have faced all season long.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would imagine as many guys on that list

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<v Speaker 5>as can strap on whatever brace or tape and try

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<v Speaker 5>and go. We'll go and try and do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Four game skid crisis. I mean, you know, our goals

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<v Speaker 4>are still in front of us. Nothing's changed there. But

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere somewhere we've got to you know, uh, we got

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<v Speaker 4>to stop this, you know, damn from from bust.

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<v Speaker 5>And wide open this.

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<v Speaker 1>Door.

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<v Speaker 2>That crisis mode, according to Doug whatever you wanna call it.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it panic mode? Is it crisis mode? Or

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<v Speaker 2>do you just need to beat the panthers? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as this is? Or will that fix things?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it time to panic right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Brand Well, it's never time to panic. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't do anybody any good. But I do like the

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<v Speaker 5>word desperation, and I use that word because that was

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<v Speaker 5>what the folks in San Francisco were describing when the

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<v Speaker 5>Niners came east and just beat the Jaguars handling. They

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<v Speaker 5>had lost three in a row. It looked like they

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<v Speaker 5>were sliding out of the playoff picture in the NFC

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<v Speaker 5>and they needed something to turn their season around. So

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<v Speaker 5>they came in here, played with an edge, played with

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<v Speaker 5>sense of urgency, desperation, whatever it is. There needs to

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<v Speaker 5>be a heightened awareness of what's at stake, and that

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<v Speaker 5>is lose and you're likely not going to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>And for a team it was eight and three and

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<v Speaker 5>had a chance to compete for home field advantage throughout

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<v Speaker 5>the playoffs, to just skid out of it entirely, well,

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<v Speaker 5>that calls for desperation, right not panic, but it calls

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<v Speaker 5>for having you back against the wall and to come

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<v Speaker 5>out swing. That's just the way I see it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, maybe the Panthers doesn't fix everything, but winning certainly

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<v Speaker 6>enables you to come out of the season with a

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<v Speaker 6>better feeling. This team hasn't won back to back division

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<v Speaker 6>titles in twenty four years, so you get a chance

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<v Speaker 6>to make history. And once the season's over, if you

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<v Speaker 6>get these last two you finished ten and seven, you

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<v Speaker 6>if you're well on the playoffs, then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 6>you're a tough team that overcame this late season obstacle.

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<v Speaker 1>You can still change your narrative.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess. I guess I'd like to see.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't care much about desperation or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see some maturity.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, I thought this team for twelve

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<v Speaker 6>weeks was a scrappy team that played well, played maturely,

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<v Speaker 6>made big plays at the end of games to win.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that defined them, and they haven't been. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think the first three games this losing streak

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<v Speaker 6>were just sayly a tragedy. You lost to Cincinnati, Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 6>They're good. The Ravens are really good. All of those

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<v Speaker 6>you could sort of get. Sunday, they didn't look like

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<v Speaker 6>a mature team, and I thought they were. I would

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<v Speaker 6>like them to prove me wrong or right or whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>but show me that they're mature again on Sunday. They

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<v Speaker 6>didn't look it on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>That was tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever it's an effort thing, right, you want to see

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<v Speaker 2>you want to assume they're past that. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe the only other time I really remember is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when they're in that Texans game where everything

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<v Speaker 2>went wrong in the first quarter and a half and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was like they kind of just wrote it off.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of what Tempa looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like they got hit in the mouth right

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning and they just didn't really find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to wild themselves back into it. And that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of being mature. That's part of the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 2>As we talk every single week, you have to want

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<v Speaker 2>to win every week of the way. It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen for you, all right, our other this or

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<v Speaker 2>that this week is we touched a little bit on

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<v Speaker 2>touched a little bit on this earlier, but for Lawrence

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<v Speaker 2>is hurt with his fourth injury, and as we've discussed

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<v Speaker 2>on those weeks, he doesn't practice and he plays not

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<v Speaker 2>the best of outcomes. So is this another instance where

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<v Speaker 2>you need to win this game? Do you roll out

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<v Speaker 2>of injury Trebor Lawrence, or do you try to roll

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<v Speaker 2>with DJ bethor and get him healthy for hopefully or

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<v Speaker 2>game after that, or what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to play whoever?

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<v Speaker 6>I wish I knew, I mean, and I always struggle

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<v Speaker 6>with injury related questions because I don't know how hurt

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<v Speaker 6>the player is. If his arm is affected to where

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<v Speaker 6>he's not thrown effectively, then I don't see how you

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<v Speaker 6>can play him guts and moxie, which he has shown

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<v Speaker 6>hasn't been enough the last two times he's played. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think he played awfully against Cleveland. There was some

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<v Speaker 6>turnovers there. That's a really good pass defense. I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>necessarily think that was an awful game, as much as

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<v Speaker 6>it was some circumstances. The other day was bad, but

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't I don't really know how many the interceptions

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<v Speaker 6>were his fault, Brian, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I lean back to what I said earlier.

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<v Speaker 6>If he can't practice effectively, if it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 6>they're developing chemistry on the field which we won't see.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I don't see how you can play them, except.

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<v Speaker 5>That he's probably still your best chance to win, all right,

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<v Speaker 5>So I just talked about Cisco and Tyson and you

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<v Speaker 5>know whoever could strap on a brace and tape it

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<v Speaker 5>up and play. Because this game is essentially your season.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't win, your playoff chances go to minimal. So

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<v Speaker 5>I'd play him, right unless I put myself in a

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<v Speaker 5>situation where I need my quarterback to have surgery on

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<v Speaker 5>a shoulder like Anthony Richardson did. Right, No, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>worth that. You know, this is a season of adversity

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<v Speaker 5>and things get away from you, and don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>mortgage my future for my present. I just I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>And so if if the doctors tell me he's clear

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<v Speaker 5>to play, and he likely will be okay coming out

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<v Speaker 5>of the game, all right. But if I'm worried about

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<v Speaker 5>that shoulder and surgery in January and not having him

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<v Speaker 5>in the off season to get ready, then I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 5>really really hard about putting c. J. Bethort in because

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<v Speaker 5>he's going to be the guy on the practice field

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<v Speaker 5>all week getting the reps and the coach just said

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<v Speaker 5>that that's important, right, timing and accuracy and all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's there's so much at stake you have to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, I was the guy last week who asked, Doug,

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<v Speaker 5>are you sure you don't want to give this, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>to just name C. J. Bethord your starter. I just

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<v Speaker 5>didn't see where a guy who missed all week of

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<v Speaker 5>practice with a concussion made sense to play. That's a

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<v Speaker 5>low hanging fruit. Now it's easy to look back, although

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<v Speaker 5>I did ask the question last week. Now I guess

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<v Speaker 5>as long as I'm told that that he's not going

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<v Speaker 5>to significantly injure it. All right, let's go. Let's see

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<v Speaker 5>what you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll hear from Trevor Lawrence a little bit later today

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll also see if he practice today, So that'll

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<v Speaker 2>give us a little more insight as we look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to the rest of the week.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's him not over and that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Own it, feel it. I'm hurting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hurting.

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<v Speaker 7>You had tomorrow's Christmas and I love my family, we'll

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<v Speaker 7>have a good time, but you know this hurts. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>gonna be watching film on what I need to do better,

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<v Speaker 7>and if there's a game or it was something that

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<v Speaker 7>they did different, then I'm gonna be attack like that

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<v Speaker 7>something me. I got to own that. Get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Allenson, he's watching film on Christmas, said it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>his best performance. And when he says other people need

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<v Speaker 2>to be accountable, he had to hold himself accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>That's certainly what you want to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>And Josh is one of the people that isn't shy

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<v Speaker 2>from being honest about those sorts of things. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>good leadership on the defensive side of the ball. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to come for more people than just your captains, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be everybody you know.

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<v Speaker 5>At eight and three it looked like this was going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a team to contend with. And you could

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<v Speaker 5>talk about injuries and we certainly have and that that's

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<v Speaker 5>cost them. But at this point, John, based on the

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<v Speaker 5>performance last Sunday, it's about a couple of guys who

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<v Speaker 5>aren't injured stepping up and leading the way by making plays.

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<v Speaker 5>Josh is certainly one of those guys. There are others,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Calvin Ridley is a guy. Evan Ingram, right,

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<v Speaker 5>there is a guy. You got to make all those

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<v Speaker 5>plays if you're going to be the Panthers on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Doug, after the game, I talked a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>about pride of not committing these turnovers, of doing it,

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<v Speaker 6>attention to attention to detail, all these things. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's a look in the mirror week, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>I s feel a way about this team. They should

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<v Speaker 6>beat the Panthers. You're playing at home, everything's on the line.

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<v Speaker 6>You have something to play for. The adage in the

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<v Speaker 6>NFL usually is if a team's got something to play for,

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<v Speaker 6>another team doesn't. The team has something to play for wins.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you're playing like you did last Sunday, you're

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna win, right, So you know. I know we

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<v Speaker 6>have a show to do tomorrow, and I'll sit here

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<v Speaker 6>and try to analyze it. I don't have that much

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<v Speaker 6>more to say about this team until I see him

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<v Speaker 6>go out and play with more urgency than they did

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<v Speaker 6>in Tampa.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at the mirror is a great way to describe it.

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<v Speaker 5>Another ways, poking the chest, you know, I mean to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to say to the guy next to you, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to play better this week. Do you understand

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<v Speaker 5>what's on the line this week? And I'm sure Doug

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<v Speaker 5>will lay out the playoffs and narrows for them and

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<v Speaker 5>the important this game. I referenced earlier, we've seen a

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<v Speaker 5>team with an interim coach and a rookie quarterback. We

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<v Speaker 5>watched the Jaguars with Darryl Bevell and Trevor Lawrence again

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<v Speaker 5>beat the Colts. I was remember him going. I guess

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<v Speaker 5>apparently the story afterwards was he was poking guys in

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<v Speaker 5>the chest in the locker room saying we're gonna play well,

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<v Speaker 5>We're not gonna just lay down. And they did. They

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<v Speaker 5>beat a Colts team that just had to win to

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<v Speaker 5>get into the playoffs, and then that Colts team didn't

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<v Speaker 5>recover the next year. Things just went out of control

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<v Speaker 5>for them. You don't want that to be a scenario

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<v Speaker 5>where you lose to a two win Panthers team and

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<v Speaker 5>find yourself outside of the playoffs and then go on

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<v Speaker 5>the road and have to play a Tennessee team that

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<v Speaker 5>you know will be ready to go with Mike Rabel.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want that. That could be very bad. So

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<v Speaker 5>what you want to do is have everybody in the

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<v Speaker 5>locker room looking at themselves and then saying to the

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<v Speaker 5>guy next to them, I'm doing this. What are you

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<v Speaker 5>doing this week? This is not an opportunity for us

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<v Speaker 5>to do anything and go play our best football and win.

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<v Speaker 1>Opportunity, opportunity to prove who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And certainly they'll need their best effort after the last

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<v Speaker 2>four losses in a row tomorrow and jagsam will go

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<v Speaker 2>over uh that fully that matchup against the Panthers this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you tomorrow morning.