1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Jobs. Welcome into Jagsam today. 2 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: I'm kind Nannie Stevens, John Osier, and Brian sexsoner with 3 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: me here today as we get ready to go over 4 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: a pretty tough holiday weekend for Jags fans, as Jags 5 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: lost their fourth game in a row to the Bucks, 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: and after the game, Trevor Lawrence pretty much at a 7 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: loss for words. 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: It's really embarrassing and frustrating. And you put a lot 9 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: of work in to do that, and to look like 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: you don't even practice. I mean, that's what it looks like, 11 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: which is, you know, it's got a call like you 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: see it sometimes. I mean, it's it's bad all the 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: way around. So we gotta find ways to get better. 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: We gotta get out of our own way. It just 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: feels like everything's so different right now. I just do 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: simple things, you know, make the simple place. Just get 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: back to doing what we what we've done this season 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: at points and when we were playing well and you know, 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: we know we have we have what it takes, but 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: I mean we haven't the last month. So at the 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: most important times, we got to play better and we're not. 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: So let's get into our big things here today. Because 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: the first big thing is this team is reeling right now. 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: They had a winless December thus far, they lost four games, 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: and as you heard Trevor say, feels like the team 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: looks like they don't practice. Now he hasn't practiced because 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: of injuries, but the rest of the team has. Doug 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Peterson tried to figure out exactly what Turyor's trying to say, 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 2: and when. 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: He doesn't practice, maybe he feels that way, you know, 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: And I can I can see that right when when 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 4: when your quarterback doesn't get the reps he needs during 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: the week and you're trying to get the mental reps 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: for him, and he's also working on you know, the 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: concussion protocol and then getting cleared from that. So there, 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: I can see where he would say something like that. 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: But listen, you guys are you guys are in practice. 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: You see the the way the way we go and 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: what we've done, and you know, the guys are working 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: hard and and but you know we've got some new 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: faces on offense that yeah, they they've they've gotta they've 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: gotta you know, they've got to pay attention to if 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: we're doing kills and alerts and different things at the quarterback. 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: You know, wants to get us into They've got to 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 4: pay attention, They've got to focus and lock in. 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: Brian, those are some strong words from Trevor about what 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: the team's been looking like lately. 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: Where's the disconnect here? 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 5: Well, look for me, I was glad to see him 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: express that frustration out loud. He has since his rookie 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 5: season when things were way off the rails, always been 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 5: the guy who says the right thing and keeps the 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 5: focus on the team. To be honest with you, John, 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: I was looking for sort of a Patrick Mahomes moment, 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: you know, that one at the end of that Bills 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 5: game that the Chiefs lost, that Air had a few 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 5: weeks ago where he went nuts on the sideline and 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: was so angry about his team. I get it. People 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: express their frustration in different ways, but to me, this 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 5: was just as far as Trevor has gone down that 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: road of pointing out the deficiencies and not seeming to 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: worry too much about who cared about what he said. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 5: And I think it's important because it's his team. This 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 5: is on him. He's the leader, and if he's frustrated 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: in expressing it to the media, you know he's doing 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 5: it to his teammates and that gives them a chance 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 5: to make the correction. 68 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 6: I think it was his version of you know what 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 6: Mahomes did at the end of the game. Look, he's 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 6: not without fault, the pocket stuff, the losing the fumbles. 72 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 6: At some point that has to stop or minimize. It's 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 6: gonna happen. But a lot of the miscommunications with receivers. 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 6: There's so much to dig into with Trevor's performance, but 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 6: so much of it not practicing. All that stuff feels 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 6: like it's adding up a little bit. I wish I 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 6: had one sentence that could sum up the lead of 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 6: this section. Reeling they are, but again it's still not irvy, 79 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 6: It's still in first place. 80 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well silver lining, they are reeling for sure. Let's 81 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: go to our second big thing, which is another one. 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence had a tough performance against the Bucks, and 83 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: he left that game with another injury as an ac 84 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: sprain to his right his throwing shoulder, and that's his 85 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: fourth injury so far this season. Doug Peterson talked about 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: the violent nature of the game and how he's going 87 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: to deal with his hurt quarterback. 88 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: My injuries are going to happen and especially to the 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 4: quarterback position. You know, all the all the injuries that 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: that he has sustained are all you know, all all hits, 91 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: you know, all contact stuff, and and it's it's part 92 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: of it, you know, And that's that's his style, and 93 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: that's his aggressiveness and and you know, he's he's been 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: fortunate enough to bounce back from all of them. So 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 4: you know, we'll see as he goes this week where 96 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: he's at. But you know, we've been fortunate that he's 97 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: been able to be available every every week so far. 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: John, we don't know what exactly Trevor's availability is going 99 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: to practice this week, but you have to imagine he'll 100 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: be limited in some respect. Is this going to get 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: much better if he's not out there practicing, Well. 102 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 6: I mean, that's I guess that's the only concern I 103 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 6: would have. If he's practicing during the week, or it 104 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 6: would practice a little bit, then I have no problem 105 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: with gutting it through and then playing. The problem is, 106 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 6: in the last couple of times he has played without practice, 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 6: it hasn't looked good, and there's been miscommunications. I don't 108 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 6: know if they're on him, if they're on receivers. My senses. 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 6: Some of the interceptions, they were more on receivers. But 110 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 6: if that's causing lack of communication in the offense, then 111 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 6: you do wonder if he doesn't practice at all this week, 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 6: do you again roll him out and start him. I 113 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 6: probably would because he's still the guy, and I still 114 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 6: think he gives you the best chance to win. But 115 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 6: the non practice would give me more pause than I 116 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 6: have felt on this issue so far. 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, he had three turnovers on Sunday, and he didn't 118 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 5: practice last week with the head, had three turnovers in 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: Cleveland the week he did in practice with the ankle. 120 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you don't have to really extrapolate too far 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: to realize that Trevor Lee Lawrence needs time to practice. Now, Maibe, 122 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 5: you're want to look deeper into it. You can say 123 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 5: that he would be better without practice if as on 124 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 5: that Thursday night in New Orleans, he had Christian Kirk 125 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: and he had Zay Jones, and he had his offensive 126 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: line at full strength. That's the trouble is he's out 127 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 5: there throwing to Elijah Cooks, Parker Washington, Tim Jones. The 128 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 5: time he isn't there. The familiarity isn't there. They don't 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: get time on the practice field. So there's I mean, 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 5: it's a huge variable. But John, if you're gonna roll 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 5: him out there coming off a concussion in Tampa, if 132 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: he's able to play at all, I don't know why 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 5: you wouldn't put him out there and give him a 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: chance to get you over the hump. And you know, 135 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 5: the playoff scenarios roll out interesting. You know, if the 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: Jaguars don't win this weekend, the other two teams do, 137 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 5: it's really dicey for them to even make the playoffs. 138 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: So my guess is they're gonna find a way to 139 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 5: get him on the field. 140 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: Our final big thing today is time for a change 141 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: because so obviously it's not just the quarterback that's having issues. 142 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: There's issues everywhere, coaching staff, players, both sides of the ball, 143 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: special teams, and Doug was asked if you know he 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: should shake things up a little bit, make a big change, 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: start doing the play calling again. 146 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: That's what he had to say. 147 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: We've got to do a better job at taking care 148 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: of the football. It's not about the plays, it's not 149 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: about all that. You know, We've got to tackle better 150 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: and we got to take care of the football. Bottom line, 151 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: we do those two things. Those give us a chance 152 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: to win football games. If we don't, then then we're 153 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: gonna be sitting here, you know, talking about this again. 154 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: So to me, that's that's the glaring, the glaring differences 155 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 4: right now between between winning and losing. 156 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: Brian Doug was very emphatic that when things go wrong, 157 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: everybody points to the finger, but he feels like those 158 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: two things are the main issues for them right now. 159 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 5: To agree with that, yeah, I mean, all you do 160 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 5: is watch the game on Sunday and you saw those things, 161 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: you know, roll out the week before. They have ten 162 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 5: turnovers in these four losses, only five takeaways. And how 163 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 5: many times on third down and short has there been 164 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: a mistackle been allowed the quarterback or the other team 165 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: to keep his offense on the field and make plays. 166 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: You know. 167 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 5: Look, I can tell you stories about Tom Kaughlin and 168 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: John about Tony Dungeye. The great coaches believed in familiarity. 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 5: They wanted these players to know exactly what they were 170 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 5: supposed to do. You go shaking things up and changing things, 171 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 5: little things, fine, big things like who's calling the plays. 172 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 5: I wouldn't do it at this point of the year. 173 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: And let's be honest, John, Doug has had a hand 174 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 5: in the play calling from the start of the season. 175 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 5: This has not just been all right, throw it to 176 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: Press Taylor. These two men know each other so well. 177 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: There's such an intricacy between their relationship. This is not 178 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: the time where you go, all right, well, I'm gonna 179 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: do it all by myself. You want to keep things 180 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 5: familiar for this team so that they don't panic because 181 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 5: major reactions by a coach in process that creates the 182 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: knee jerk feeling like, well, here we go. I guess 183 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: everything's on the table now. You do that kind of 184 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: stuff in the offseason. 185 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 6: It's always play calling in the NFL. So I'd like 186 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 6: to say, because people love to criticize that, I have 187 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 6: not talked to Doug privately about the difference between between 188 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 6: him and Press. I think after fifteen games, if he 189 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 6: thought there was a huge difference, a huge difference in 190 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 6: quality of play calling, he would have quote taken it back. 191 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 6: I think he looks at it and says, the offensive 192 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 6: line isn't run blocking very well. When you don't run block, 193 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 6: when you don't have the option to run, it limits 194 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: you as a play caller, no matter who you are. 195 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: And when you look at that fundamental. He didn't say 196 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 6: that on Monday or on Tuesday, but if you look 197 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 6: at that fundamental, if you look at the lack of tackling, 198 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 6: and if you look at the turnovers, I think if 199 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 6: those three things were you know, if there're two's, now, 200 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 6: if they were sixes, I think you'd be winning games. 201 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: I think that's what he's going. 202 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: To focus on. 203 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: Well, look, we got the perfect example of why it's 204 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 5: not play calling, and that was the twelve yard laws 205 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 5: on Calvin Ridley reverse. Were Tim Jones, who's in the game, 206 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 5: blocks or misses a block entirely on Yah Yah Dabby 207 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: the pass rusher who drops Calvin for the big loss? 208 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: Was that Press Taylor that missed that block? No, it wasn't. 209 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: It seems you want to yell at the television and 210 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 5: say that's a horrible play call. Well not if it worked. 211 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 5: It worked, and they obviously thought it was going to 212 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 5: based on what they saw. 213 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 6: The no issues plays that don't work stink bright. 214 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, w it's one. They showed it over and over 215 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: and over and you see Tim Jones just with on 216 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 5: the block. That's execution. That's what Doug is talking about 217 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: when everybody wants to say, why would you call that play? 218 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 5: And well, look watch it and see what really happened. 219 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: There was a press Taylor's fall. It was Tim Jones 220 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 5: who missed the block. Those sorts of things drive you crazy, 221 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: and you can't just react to all the outside noise. 222 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 5: They've got to stick with what they know and what 223 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 5: they do and try to do it better. 224 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: I will say it might be on the fan side 225 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: with this one because I don't want to see the 226 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 2: end around reverses anymore either, because I don't think the 227 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: percentage of them, I haven't seen many of them work. 228 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: I see them run it a lot, but I haven't 229 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: seen a lot of it work. So we'll have to 230 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: see if they use that again. Coming up this week 231 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: against the Panthers, we're gonna go over the injury report 232 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: cause we've got a few more names on there and 233 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 2: one name that might be coming back right here in 234 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: jags Am. Welcome back to Jagzam for the by Field's 235 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: Auto Group, Jacksonville. You can step up to luxury at 236 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: Fields Auto dot Com. We're all t We're also brought 237 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: to you by dream Finders' Homes, so they've been proud 238 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: to call themselves the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 239 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: Visit dreamfinders' homes dot com for all of the available 240 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: inventory and go Jags. Welcome back to Jags am here 241 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: on this Wednesday, so we get ready for the final 242 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: game in December. We're trying to make this not a 243 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: winless December, not a winless month. They're own four right now. 244 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: They have one more game that's gonna be against the 245 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers this week, and it's looked on the schedule 246 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: like it was gonna be a pretty easy matchup. But 247 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't think any of us thought we were gonna 248 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: be at this point where now you don't feel one 249 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: hundred confident going into this game. 250 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: Well, and the injury list is certainly a big part 251 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 5: of that, but also the fact that the Panthers are 252 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: playing well. You know, they beat the Falcons two weeks ago, 253 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 5: and last week was arguably Bryce Young's best game as 254 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 5: a pro in that loss, thirty three thirty was the 255 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 5: final to the Green Bay Packers. So you've got a 256 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 5: team coming down here who's playing with a rookie quarterback 257 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 5: and an interim head coach against a team that has 258 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 5: to win to get into the playoffs. Where have we 259 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 5: heard that scenario before? 260 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're I mean, at this point, the Panthers are 261 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 6: just having fun. You know, they know there's a change 262 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 6: coming at the end of the season. They're loose. They've 263 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 6: done a nice job started recovering from the malays of 264 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 6: the first three months, but it's a broken record at 265 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 6: this point. The storyline is more about what the Jaguars 266 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 6: are gonna do. Are they going to show up? Frankly, 267 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 6: Sunday was as listless of performance as I've seen out 268 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 6: of this team, and I don't know how long with 269 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 6: everything on the line, that really surprised me. So can 270 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 6: they show up? And Doug Peterson after the game sense 271 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 6: of urgency That is far more concerned to me than 272 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: anything the Panthers do. 273 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 5: No knocking the Panthers. 274 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 6: I just think it's about how the Jaguars play and frankly, 275 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 6: do they show. 276 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: Up right, because if they come out with the effort 277 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: we saw on Tampa, that's not gonna be good. Also, 278 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: we've got to mention we've talked about Trevor's added on 279 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: his fourth injury so far this season, but there's a 280 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: lot of injured players and Daniel Thomas has been added 281 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: to that. He went to IR because of a forearm injury. 282 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: Broke his left arm, so he'll be out for the 283 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: foreseeable future. Cam Robinson is going to be activated. He 284 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: was activated Tuesday, so his windows available and Doug Peterson 285 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: talked and said, if everything looks good, they're hopefully gonna 286 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 2: get Cammed back this Sunday against Carolina. And something I 287 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: was looking at too, is a little bit John. We 288 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: were discussing Tyson Campbell and Andre Cisco. They both missed 289 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: time with those soft tissue injuries, and we didn't see 290 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: them much in the second half. 291 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: So how hurt are they? And you know, if they 292 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: are needed to play a full game. 293 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 6: Where they can be able to do that, you would 294 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: think not playing a second half on Sunday. Soft tissue 295 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 6: is something that can be aggravated through fatigue. So, hey, 296 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 6: we're down twenty nothing, We're not playing very well. Nobody 297 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 6: else showed up anyway, So why have these guys get hurt? 298 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 6: That feels to me like that At the same time, 299 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 6: they've both dealt with this for a Tyson, it feels 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 6: like all season Cisco the last few weeks. Could they 301 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 6: make it through a whole game if they're putting strain 302 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 6: on those soft tissue spots. I don't know that I 303 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: would assume they would have played further had the score 304 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 6: been closer on Sunday. 305 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 5: I don't know that we'll know that getting Cam Robinson 306 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 5: back would be a huge left right. I mean, what 307 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 5: he brings in terms of his personality, you can't deny 308 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 5: when he got into the line up there, they started 309 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: playing better football. So you'd like to have him back, 310 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: especially because Walker Little is still struggling with the hamstring injury. 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 5: You know, maybe a week of rehabilitation and time on 312 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 5: the practice field, you at least I would expect that 313 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: Cisco and Tyson are gonna make it. 314 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: Go for it. 315 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: I mean, the way the scenarios roll out, if the 316 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 5: Jaguars don't win on Sunday and both the Texans who 317 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: are playing in Nashville and the Colts, who are hosting 318 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 5: the Raiders win, you're out right. I mean, the scenario 319 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: has become very there. There's sixteen things that have to 320 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: happen for the Jaguars, including them winning in Nashville at 321 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: the end of the season, for them to even make 322 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: it as a wildcard team. So this is as much 323 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 5: of a must win as they have faced all season long. 324 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: So I would imagine as many guys on that list 325 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: as can strap on whatever brace or tape and try 326 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: and go. We'll go and try and do it. 327 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: All right, Stay well, let's coming back. 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You 337 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: can that assist students in pursuing post secondary education. 338 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: And career goals. 339 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: Four game skid crisis. I mean, you know, our goals 340 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: are still in front of us. Nothing's changed there. But 341 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: somewhere somewhere we've got to you know, uh, we got 342 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: to stop this, you know, damn from from bust. 343 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 5: And wide open this. 344 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Door. 345 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: That crisis mode, according to Doug whatever you wanna call it. 346 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: But is it panic mode? Is it crisis mode? Or 347 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: do you just need to beat the panthers? Is that 348 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: as simple as this is? Or will that fix things? 349 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: Or is it time to panic right now? 350 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 5: Brand Well, it's never time to panic. I mean, that 351 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: doesn't do anybody any good. But I do like the 352 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: word desperation, and I use that word because that was 353 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 5: what the folks in San Francisco were describing when the 354 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 5: Niners came east and just beat the Jaguars handling. They 355 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 5: had lost three in a row. It looked like they 356 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 5: were sliding out of the playoff picture in the NFC 357 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: and they needed something to turn their season around. So 358 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 5: they came in here, played with an edge, played with 359 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: sense of urgency, desperation, whatever it is. There needs to 360 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 5: be a heightened awareness of what's at stake, and that 361 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 5: is lose and you're likely not going to make the playoffs. 362 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 5: And for a team it was eight and three and 363 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: had a chance to compete for home field advantage throughout 364 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 5: the playoffs, to just skid out of it entirely, well, 365 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 5: that calls for desperation, right not panic, but it calls 366 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: for having you back against the wall and to come 367 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: out swing. That's just the way I see it. 368 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe the Panthers doesn't fix everything, but winning certainly 369 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 6: enables you to come out of the season with a 370 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 6: better feeling. This team hasn't won back to back division 371 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 6: titles in twenty four years, so you get a chance 372 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 6: to make history. And once the season's over, if you 373 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 6: get these last two you finished ten and seven, you 374 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: if you're well on the playoffs, then all of a sudden, 375 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 6: you're a tough team that overcame this late season obstacle. 376 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: You can still change your narrative. 377 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 5: I guess. I guess I'd like to see. 378 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 6: I don't care much about desperation or anything like that. 379 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: I'd like to see some maturity. 380 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I thought this team for twelve 381 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 6: weeks was a scrappy team that played well, played maturely, 382 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 6: made big plays at the end of games to win. 383 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 6: I thought that defined them, and they haven't been. You know, 384 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: I don't think the first three games this losing streak 385 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 6: were just sayly a tragedy. You lost to Cincinnati, Cleveland. 386 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 6: They're good. The Ravens are really good. All of those 387 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 6: you could sort of get. Sunday, they didn't look like 388 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: a mature team, and I thought they were. I would 389 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: like them to prove me wrong or right or whatever, 390 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 6: but show me that they're mature again on Sunday. They 391 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 6: didn't look it on Sunday. 392 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: That was tough. 393 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: Whenever it's an effort thing, right, you want to see 394 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: you want to assume they're past that. At this point, 395 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: I think maybe the only other time I really remember is, 396 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: you know, when they're in that Texans game where everything 397 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: went wrong in the first quarter and a half and 398 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: then it was like they kind of just wrote it off. 399 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what Tempa looked like. 400 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: It looks like they got hit in the mouth right 401 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: in the beginning and they just didn't really find a 402 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 2: way to wild themselves back into it. And that's part 403 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: of being mature. That's part of the National Football League. 404 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: As we talk every single week, you have to want 405 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: to win every week of the way. It's not going 406 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: to happen for you, all right, our other this or 407 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: that this week is we touched a little bit on 408 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: touched a little bit on this earlier, but for Lawrence 409 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: is hurt with his fourth injury, and as we've discussed 410 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: on those weeks, he doesn't practice and he plays not 411 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: the best of outcomes. So is this another instance where 412 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: you need to win this game? Do you roll out 413 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: of injury Trebor Lawrence, or do you try to roll 414 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: with DJ bethor and get him healthy for hopefully or 415 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: game after that, or what do you do? 416 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: You just have to play whoever? 417 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 6: I wish I knew, I mean, and I always struggle 418 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 6: with injury related questions because I don't know how hurt 419 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: the player is. If his arm is affected to where 420 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 6: he's not thrown effectively, then I don't see how you 421 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 6: can play him guts and moxie, which he has shown 422 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 6: hasn't been enough the last two times he's played. I 423 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 6: don't think he played awfully against Cleveland. There was some 424 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: turnovers there. That's a really good pass defense. I didn't 425 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 6: necessarily think that was an awful game, as much as 426 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: it was some circumstances. The other day was bad, but 427 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 6: I didn't I don't really know how many the interceptions 428 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 6: were his fault, Brian, So. 429 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: I guess I lean back to what I said earlier. 430 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 6: If he can't practice effectively, if it doesn't look like 431 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 6: they're developing chemistry on the field which we won't see. 432 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Then I don't see how you can play them, except. 433 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: That he's probably still your best chance to win, all right, 434 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 5: So I just talked about Cisco and Tyson and you 435 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: know whoever could strap on a brace and tape it 436 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 5: up and play. Because this game is essentially your season. 437 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 5: You don't win, your playoff chances go to minimal. So 438 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 5: I'd play him, right unless I put myself in a 439 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 5: situation where I need my quarterback to have surgery on 440 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 5: a shoulder like Anthony Richardson did. Right, No, it's not 441 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 5: worth that. You know, this is a season of adversity 442 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: and things get away from you, and don't. I don't 443 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 5: mortgage my future for my present. I just I don't. 444 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: And so if if the doctors tell me he's clear 445 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: to play, and he likely will be okay coming out 446 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: of the game, all right. But if I'm worried about 447 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 5: that shoulder and surgery in January and not having him 448 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 5: in the off season to get ready, then I'm thinking 449 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 5: really really hard about putting c. J. Bethort in because 450 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 5: he's going to be the guy on the practice field 451 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 5: all week getting the reps and the coach just said 452 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 5: that that's important, right, timing and accuracy and all those things. 453 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: What I mean, I don't know. 454 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 5: It's there's so much at stake you have to do it. 455 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: But you know, I was the guy last week who asked, Doug, 456 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 5: are you sure you don't want to give this, you know, 457 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 5: to just name C. J. Bethord your starter. I just 458 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 5: didn't see where a guy who missed all week of 459 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: practice with a concussion made sense to play. That's a 460 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 5: low hanging fruit. Now it's easy to look back, although 461 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 5: I did ask the question last week. Now I guess 462 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 5: as long as I'm told that that he's not going 463 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 5: to significantly injure it. All right, let's go. Let's see 464 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: what you can do. 465 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: We'll hear from Trevor Lawrence a little bit later today 466 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: and we'll also see if he practice today, So that'll 467 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: give us a little more insight as we look forward 468 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: to the rest of the week. 469 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Stay with us here on Jagsam Jags fans. 470 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: If you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home, check 471 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: out zip chair dot com to browse all customizable options. 472 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. Also, this week's game 473 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: against the Panthers is brought to you by Johnson and Johnson, 474 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: the makers of acub brand contact lenses making vision possible. 475 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: Probably based in Jacksonville. You can visit jjvision dot com. 476 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 7: I mean, it's him not over and that's the thing. 477 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 7: Own it, feel it. I'm hurting. 478 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm hurting. 479 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 7: You had tomorrow's Christmas and I love my family, we'll 480 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 7: have a good time, but you know this hurts. I'm 481 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 7: gonna be watching film on what I need to do better, 482 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 7: and if there's a game or it was something that 483 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 7: they did different, then I'm gonna be attack like that 484 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 7: something me. I got to own that. Get better. 485 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: Move on. 486 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Josh Allenson, he's watching film on Christmas, said it wasn't 487 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 2: his best performance. And when he says other people need 488 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: to be accountable, he had to hold himself accountable. 489 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: That's certainly what you want to hear. 490 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: And Josh is one of the people that isn't shy 491 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: from being honest about those sorts of things. So that's 492 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: good leadership on the defensive side of the ball. But 493 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: it's got to come for more people than just your captains, right, 494 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: It's got to be everybody you know. 495 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: At eight and three it looked like this was going 496 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 5: to be a team to contend with. And you could 497 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 5: talk about injuries and we certainly have and that that's 498 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: cost them. But at this point, John, based on the 499 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 5: performance last Sunday, it's about a couple of guys who 500 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: aren't injured stepping up and leading the way by making plays. 501 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 5: Josh is certainly one of those guys. There are others, 502 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 5: you know, Calvin Ridley is a guy. Evan Ingram, right, 503 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 5: there is a guy. You got to make all those 504 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 5: plays if you're going to be the Panthers on Sunday. 505 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, Doug, after the game, I talked a little bit 506 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 6: about pride of not committing these turnovers, of doing it, 507 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 6: attention to attention to detail, all these things. I think 508 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 6: it's a look in the mirror week, you know, I 509 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 6: I s feel a way about this team. They should 510 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 6: beat the Panthers. You're playing at home, everything's on the line. 511 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: You have something to play for. The adage in the 512 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 6: NFL usually is if a team's got something to play for, 513 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 6: another team doesn't. The team has something to play for wins. 514 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 6: But if you're playing like you did last Sunday, you're 515 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 6: not gonna win, right, So you know. I know we 516 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 6: have a show to do tomorrow, and I'll sit here 517 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 6: and try to analyze it. I don't have that much 518 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 6: more to say about this team until I see him 519 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 6: go out and play with more urgency than they did 520 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 6: in Tampa. 521 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: Look at the mirror is a great way to describe it. 522 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: Another ways, poking the chest, you know, I mean to 523 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 5: be able to say to the guy next to you, Hey, 524 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 5: you got to play better this week. Do you understand 525 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 5: what's on the line this week? And I'm sure Doug 526 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 5: will lay out the playoffs and narrows for them and 527 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 5: the important this game. I referenced earlier, we've seen a 528 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 5: team with an interim coach and a rookie quarterback. We 529 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 5: watched the Jaguars with Darryl Bevell and Trevor Lawrence again 530 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 5: beat the Colts. I was remember him going. I guess 531 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: apparently the story afterwards was he was poking guys in 532 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 5: the chest in the locker room saying we're gonna play well, 533 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 5: We're not gonna just lay down. And they did. They 534 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 5: beat a Colts team that just had to win to 535 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 5: get into the playoffs, and then that Colts team didn't 536 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 5: recover the next year. Things just went out of control 537 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 5: for them. You don't want that to be a scenario 538 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 5: where you lose to a two win Panthers team and 539 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 5: find yourself outside of the playoffs and then go on 540 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: the road and have to play a Tennessee team that 541 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: you know will be ready to go with Mike Rabel. 542 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 5: You don't want that. That could be very bad. So 543 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 5: what you want to do is have everybody in the 544 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 5: locker room looking at themselves and then saying to the 545 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 5: guy next to them, I'm doing this. What are you 546 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: doing this week? This is not an opportunity for us 547 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 5: to do anything and go play our best football and win. 548 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: Opportunity, opportunity to prove who you are. 549 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: And certainly they'll need their best effort after the last 550 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: four losses in a row tomorrow and jagsam will go 551 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: over uh that fully that matchup against the Panthers this weekend. 552 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning.