1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody's second hour of the 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show underway out here in Bedminster, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: New Jersey, at the Trump Golf Course. Here the live 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: golf tournament underway. Clay Travis saying he's ready to take 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: on Tiger Woods, ready to take on the best of 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: the best out there on the course. We just finished 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: an hour long discussion with number forty five former President 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump, so much in that if you're just 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: joining us now, please go to the Clay, Clay and 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Buck podcast. Go to Clay and Buck dot com. We'll 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: have clips up there, posts of it you need to hear. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: He talked, We talked about China, Taiwan, the economy, Biden, 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: the midterms, Will he run again? Is he worried about 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: the d J under Biden bringing a charge against him? 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: And it was an hour long conversation. Clay, we covered 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of territory. I mean, if you had to 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: pick one, it was there one thing for you that 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: stuck out where you just said then both of us 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: certainly had the response of this guy is still super sharp, 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: still super energetic, and he's in the game. We know 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: that's just a question of when he's gonna announce, what 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: he's going to announce, and how he wants to play. 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: It's percent running, okay. I think anyone who argues otherwise 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: is crazy. So all of you out there, Trump is 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: going to run in twenty twenty four. He hasn't officially 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: announced that. We've been telling you that. Our expectation is 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: that that's going to happen. I will say the things 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: that maybe stood out to me the most. I think 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: he's genuinely troubled by the status that Joe Biden is in. 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, Buck, we talk about this, and I don't 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: think it gets discussed enough. You can be a Republican, 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: you can be a Democrat, you can be an independent. 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: A weak feeble American president is all full no matter 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: what your political persuasions are. And you don't see the video, obviously, 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: there's not a video in here. You don't see the 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: face to face reaction. But I think what stood out 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: to me, Buck was he legitimately seems pained over Joe 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: Biden's deterioration and the fact that he's the president of 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: the United States. Just from the perspective of being an American, 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: not even just on it. Hey, I disagree with all 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: this policy choices that he is so enfeebled. You could 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: tell based on Trump's just physical responses when it's there, 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: it pains him. And I think that doesn't get talked 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: about enough. There are a lot of people in that 46 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: same boat, a lot of listeners right now who feel 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: that way. Trump is in his seventies, He's seen plenty 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: of contemporaries, plenty of people who are, you know, a 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: few years ahead of him, as Joe Biden is reached 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: that point where it's time to spend more time with 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: the family, it's time to certainly not be the commander 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: in chief. And I think that you know, he said 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to doesn't to be mean about it, 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: and I think there's this and we say the same thing. 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be pointing out that somebody. I mean, 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: we should all be so lucky that we get and 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: are still, you know, firing on all cylinders and healthy 58 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: and everything else, and we're all very happy that former 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that President Biden is doing well past COVID 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: and all that, but he's not up for being president 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: of the United States, And it's obvious that's a that's 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: a different thing, right, someone being healthy enough to walk 63 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: around the garden and spend time with the grandkids, that's great. 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: That's something we all celebrate and want for every American 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: being the commander in chief in a time of real 66 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: national peril. We need somebody who is ready for that 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: job in a way, that's obviously not the case with 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. On the economy as well, you could tell 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the President just feels like, how I'm sorry, Former President 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Tromp feels like the current White House has just made 71 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: such a mess of things. On the energy from we 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: went full energy independent in terms of domestic production under 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, which is a remarkable Also, remember back 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: what was it in the in the seventies and eighties. 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: I think they're talking about peak oil and there are 76 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: people saying we're going to reach a peak oil. And 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: then there was the shale revolution in this country. Enormous 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: wealth for the United States that came from shale technology 79 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: using fracking, sorry fracking technology to get at the oil shale. 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: And so now we have a situation where it looks 81 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: like the economy is going to be getting worse and 82 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: the other part of this that's such a shockman here 83 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Larry Cudlow, who was obviously in the Trump administration as 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: a senior economic advisor, who's on Fox before, and this 85 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: was kind of our reaction yesterday as well, Clay. On 86 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: the day the recession is official, the Biden White House 87 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: does things that not only are meant to block out 88 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: the recognition of the recession, but are also an opposition 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: to what you would do based upon the indicators the 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: economy's giving you. Of course, with inflation, spend a whole 91 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: bunch of money. Spend a whole bunch of money in 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: green energy. Can we play that Larry Cudlow clip where 93 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: he just says, this doesn't even make any sense. In 94 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: the space of forty eight hours, you have these two 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: huge bills. Okay, so there is no deficit reduction. There's 96 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: a massive tax increase which is going to do great 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: harm to businesses and work in folks. And finally you 98 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: have this huge volume of spending, which I mean, I 99 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: thought there was an agreement in Washington that too much 100 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: spending causes higher inflation. Tax hikes are going to cause 101 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: a worse recession. If you guys can figure out the 102 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: economic logic of this. Please come on my show and 103 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: explain it to me, because I don't get it. I've 104 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: only been doing this for about fifty years, So you're 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to help me out on this. The Cudlow's 106 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: a savvy player on this stuff, Clay, and he's just 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: pointing out it's almost like they're trying to make it worse. 108 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: It's infuriating. And we have managed, in this Biden experience, 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: to both create the highest inflation and forty years and 110 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: simultaneously enter into a recession, and a lot of the 111 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: things that you have to do to fix both of 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: them are sometimes contradictory, which we talked about on Wednesday. 113 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: When you make the decision to have to raise interest 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: rates three quarters of a basis points, that's usually contrary 115 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: to what you would do during a recession. And then 116 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: you're also and I'm so fired up because this news 117 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: broke Wednesday evening that Joe Mancham was going to be 118 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: signing on for this hundreds of billions of dollars in 119 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: additional spending. Buck When you actually break this down, it's 120 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: not only that he made those choices, it's that he's 121 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: actually said and so has virtually every Democrat. I just 122 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: want you to hear a few of these. Bill Clinton said, 123 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: what a recession is? This has cut three guys. Two thousand. 124 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton explains a recession, Well, is two quarters in 125 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: a row negative growth. I don't think we're going to 126 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: have that. Okay. So that's Bill Clinton saying what a 127 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: recession is. And then you had Joe Mansion. So that 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: was Bill Clinton in two thousand. You had Joe Mansion 129 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: back in two and ten saying the exact opposite of 130 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: the choice he just made. And before I get to 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion, let me also play Obama. Obama says, hey, 132 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: you don't raise taxes in a recession. It's common knowledge. 133 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Listen to Obama back in two thousand and nine. You 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: don't raise taxes in a recession. The last thing you 135 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: want to do is to raise taxes in the middle 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: of a recession. And then Joe Mansion buck on top 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: of it. All these people are doing the exact opposite 138 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: of what conventional economic wisdom is. Here's Mansion saying, now, 139 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: you don't raise taxes at all during a recession. This 140 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: is Joe Mansion two ten. I don't think during a 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: time of recession, you mess with any of the taxes 142 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: or increase any taxes. I can't look to people in 143 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: West Virginia in the eye and ask them to pay 144 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: a penny more until I know we're running this government efficient. 145 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I just want to know what they curiating, but what 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: they promised Joe Mansion or how they managed to get Now, look, 147 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: he he is a Democrat, and there's a reason for that. 148 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: He does believe clearly in spending more and taxing more. 149 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: But at this phase in the Biden presidency, this isn't 150 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, the first month where it's all, oh, we'll 151 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: just do whatever and see where the chips fall. They 152 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: have seen what the policies have done. The American people 153 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: are feeling that paying the effects. By the way, one 154 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: of the more interesting moments, I think, as well of 155 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: many with our last hour with President Trump, was when 156 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: we're talking to him about the picture of the economy. 157 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: They keep saying unemployment at three point five percent, but 158 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: there are millions of jobs that actually have not come back, 159 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: or millions of people in the labor for US that 160 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: have not come back online since the since the pandemics started, 161 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: and so it's not really a clear picture and I 162 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: can just say this. I have come across so many 163 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: businesses and individuals working for them, running them, who say, 164 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: we just can't get workers. So what is going on here? 165 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: There's clearly something unhealthy in the economy beyond just the 166 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: high prices, the inflation, and to think that raising taxes 167 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: on corporations, raising taxes, they keep saying anybody less than 168 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand, So they're going to raise taxes on 169 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: individuals too. They're going to unleash the irs on people. 170 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: This is what they're doing where we're going into a recession. 171 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: It is I remember Buck, when we talked about the 172 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: report that Joe Mansion wasn't going to participate in any 173 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's economic agenda. That news came out what 174 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: three weeks ago, something like that, and then it occurs 175 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: that they have been negotiating quietly behind the scenes. And 176 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: this was what I was kind of afraid of. I mean, 177 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: we had this conversation early on. I said, if Democrats 178 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: look and know that they're one hundred percent going to 179 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: lose the House, and I think at this point it 180 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: would be stunning if they don't lose the House. We 181 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: don't know about the Senate. We need we need to 182 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: start looking at real estate in Costa Rico or Palau 183 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: or something, because things will really go even worse. So 184 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: they know this may be their last opportunity to control 185 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: Congress and have the White House maybe for a decade 186 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: or more. And so what do you do? Then you 187 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: go for broke? And to me, what mansion statement effectively 188 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: let it be known is I don't think he's any 189 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: way he can run now. I think he's basically retiring 190 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: because I know we got a lot of people listening 191 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: to us in West Virginia, he only won by three 192 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: points in mid term election of twenty eighteen. Trump won 193 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: West Virginia by nearly forty points. I think I don't 194 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: see any way possible that he gets re elected in 195 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. You think there are a lot of goodies 196 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: in this package that are going to sack West Virginia though, 197 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way, that's how he would probably 198 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: justify it, right if he might be one of these 199 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: senators who is a pork barrel player, you know, maybe 200 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: a guy that's getting it for his constituents at the 201 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: expense of, honestly the rest of the country, which may 202 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: very well be the calculation that he made here. It's 203 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: remarkable that this guy's been able to hang on as 204 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: long as he has. He has been a survivor. There's 205 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: no doubt in terms of his political career. I think 206 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: his political career is over. I really do, Buck and 207 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't see any way that he is going to 208 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: be able to get reelected. And to his credit, a 209 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: lot of his decisions had been accurate so far in 210 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: the Biden administration. I think this is a tremendous miscalculation 211 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: by him. I think he saw the blowback that came out. 212 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: And it's not only that he did it, it's the way. Look, 213 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: I think, why do you do it? Why do you 214 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: do it? Let me ask? I think he's riding off 215 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: into the sunset. I think in the back of his 216 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: mind he may be thinking, I could be a vice 217 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: president in twenty twenty four. This gives me viability for 218 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: a larger office. But I think he probably looked at 219 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: him polling and saying, there's no way I can win 220 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: as a Democrat. This is my sayonara, and he's set. 221 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: When he's seventy five seventy six himself, I think maybe 222 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: he's ready for retirement, and he's going to counsel this 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: as a big win and it gives him viability if 224 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: there is potentially something out there, and maybe he wants 225 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: to run for president in twenty twenty four. I don't 226 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: know you're gonna run for the Senate and win, So 227 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what he thinks in his mind. You 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: know what's a politician. Let's be honest, buck, You and 229 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I get to interact with a lot of politicians, right. Yeah, 230 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: he hasn't come on this show, and we've wanted to 231 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: get him on the show. He wanted to come on 232 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: the show. I would love to have him on because 233 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear his explanation, his rationale, because I 234 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: think he's somewhat reasonable, but I think he blew it here. 235 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: If we could other than Fauci, and you know that 236 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: you would have to hit the bleep button with me 237 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: if he came on the show, other than Fauci, If 238 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: you could get anybody from from anywhere in the political 239 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: spectrum to come on, who would it be? It would 240 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: be Joe Biden because I think if he's talked with 241 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: us for an hour or his presidence, he would be 242 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: over like we just you just heard Trump in this 243 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: room with us for an hour. You can agree or 244 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: disagree with many different things that Trump has done in 245 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: his political career. Joe Biden buck kind of painting the 246 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: picture here. We're sitting in a long conference room table, 247 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden sitting at this table with us, just like 248 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: Trump did for an hour. If he were here right now, 249 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Let's say we had him for the third hour of 250 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: the program. We had Trump hour one, we had Joe 251 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: Biden hour three. I think by the time that hour ended, 252 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Democrats would be saying, we have to put the twenty 253 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: fifth Amendment in place. Joe Biden can't. Hey, equal Tom, 254 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: we should put out that. We should put out the president. 255 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Biden wants to come on the show anytime he's more, 256 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: We'll have a chat with him. And I would be fascinating. 257 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: I think Umi and Pelosi, I think you MEI and 258 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: Pelosi for an hour would be just from a radio perspective, amazing, 259 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: amazing listening. And we don't run from these opportunities, like, look, 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: we offered Fauci, come on for an houri As Fauci, 261 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: like we'll make it fun for him. But I don't. 262 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: I just don't think that he'll I don't think they're afraid. 263 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: They're afraid to come on, And so my answer would 264 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: be Biden, because I really think he's not physically or mentally. 265 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: I was in my head when I ask you that question. 266 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: I was discounting bid one because obviously, but I did 267 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: say if we could get anybody, but also he just 268 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: can't do it. I just can't be physically ky. So 269 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: it actually as a radio exercise, it would be interesting 270 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: because you would just see the lack of energy, the 271 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: deterioration happening. Because this takes a lot. You and I 272 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: do a lot of TV, writing other things. Radio you 273 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: can't hide, man, if you're not with it, if you're 274 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: not sharp, there's there's no cut to the quick break 275 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: and have some other deaths come on and do all 276 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: your work for you. Look, if you're looking at the 277 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: latest inflation number as while thinking that we have roughly 278 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: thirty more months to endure the current White House, the 279 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: current administration, you're not alone. You're right to think about 280 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: how to protective value of your long term savings. My 281 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: plan is to buy more gold. 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Subscribe to 300 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: the podcast. You can hear the whole first hour with 301 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: President Trump answering. As Buck laid out earlier this hour 302 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: basically every issue under the sun. I mean, I can't 303 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: think of hardly anything we could have asked him that 304 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: we didn't. Once the Trump train gets going, there are 305 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot of stops on the way, a lot of 306 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: topics that you hit no, no, you know, he's he's 307 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: a force of nature. And the number of two two 308 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: two eight eight two. You can load those up. We'll 309 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: take some calls here in the second and the third 310 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: hour of the program. Also wanted to mention Don Junior 311 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: came by. Trump's entire family basically is out here at 312 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: the live golf event, including a bunch of his grandkids. 313 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: And obviously during commercial breaks, you guys don't know exactly 314 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: what's going on, but Trump's grandkids came in and it's 315 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: interesting to see a president of the the United States off 316 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: the mic, not under you know, a television camera, interacting 317 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: with his kids and his grandkids. And it was just 318 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: it was a cool scene as as that was all 319 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: going on and kind of paying the picture for you 320 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: outside of this former residence where we are basically broadcasting, 321 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: inside of the Bedminster golf course, massive crowds of people, 322 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: as we said, or outside this house as they realized 323 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: that the president was being interviewed you and as he 324 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: is moving around in this course, you can kind of 325 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: see people reacting chasing after him, but he's got the 326 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: whole family out here, and it is going to be 327 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: I think now quite the scene as they have a 328 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: shotgun start about twelve minutes ago they got underway here 329 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: again open up the phone lines eight hundred two eight 330 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: two two eight eight two will continue to roll you 331 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: into the Friday edition of the program and into your weekend. 332 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: We got to see if you and the president. I 333 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: want to see who could hit it from the teas 334 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: further play, you know, because he's he's he's a surprising 335 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: if you never stood next. He's like six two, he's 336 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: a pretty big guy. He's got some height. I have 337 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: a thirty year advantage on him. So if I can't 338 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: out drive someone thirty years young, but he's got all 339 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: that experience, he's a way better golfer. I would like 340 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: to think that I could outdrive him if I just 341 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: crip and rip. Here's the challenge. 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Welcome back Clayan Buck out here 362 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: in Bedminster, New Jersey after our hour long sit down 363 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: with President Trump. Clayanbuck dot com. If you want to 364 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: listen to it covered so much ground there and also 365 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: want to hear from you if you have some reaction 366 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: to that Trump interview or anything else we're talking about today, 367 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: but specifically Trump interview. We'd love to hear eight hundred 368 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: two eight to eight eight two in Clay. One of 369 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: the issues, as we were speaking to Number forty five himself, 370 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: is you look at the ways that things are not 371 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: moving in the right direction in the country. He mentioned 372 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: the border we need. We could have spent an hour, 373 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: honestly just talking about the situation of the US Mexico 374 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: border and how that's such a complete and utter mess 375 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: these days. The economy obviously is not where it should be, 376 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: and that's not just our opinion, this is the opinion 377 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: of what seventy five percent of Americans right now. Something 378 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: along those lines. But on crime as well, you know, 379 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: there has been a slow recognition that the most the 380 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: most radical progressive DA's the Soros back das You've got 381 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: former dam Budan and San Francisco got removed, and now 382 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: you've got Gascone who could get removed in LA. They've 383 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: crossed that hurle in July to get the recall going. 384 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: You have Larry Krasner in Philadelphia and other Soros back DA. 385 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: I think, well, you have Kim Fox in Chicago um, 386 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: Marilyn Moseby, I think in Baltimore, I think she has 387 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: some other problems these days, legal issues. Point being, there 388 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: are a lot of prosecutors that everyone's realized, well they're 389 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: they're just what they're doing is reckless. But it's a 390 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: lot more than just that. It's the entire system, right, 391 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: It's it's the way, it's the way that the police. 392 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: And we had a fantastic interview with Raphael Mangual about 393 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: he was He was so good. I mean because this 394 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: he you know, we try to always bring people on 395 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: if they're a specific subject matter expert with deep expertise 396 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: on this. And he's at the Manhattan Institute. He's got 397 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: a book Criminal It was a criminal Injustice, I believe, 398 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: um and uh, And he was talking about how the 399 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: whole system, they're all these breakdowns. It's been a change 400 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: that's intentional, and Democrats have been pushing this. This is 401 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: not from both sides of the aisle. Which brings me 402 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: to this New York Post piece. Recidivism rates for New 403 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: York cities burglars and thieves soar amid bail reform. This 404 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: is based on NYPD NYPD data. Clay roughly one in 405 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: five criminals who have been arrested for burglary or theft 406 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: were arrested for an additional felony charge within sixty days 407 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: after being put back on the streets. I mean, this 408 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest problems that we've seen. Is one, 409 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: people are not being punished by the criminal justice system 410 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: for repeated infractions in a way that's going to make 411 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: them not want to keep doing this. And also generally, 412 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: when their interaction with their criminal justice system, this true 413 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: New York's all over the country is so minimal, they 414 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: actually end up often going on. People that are breaking 415 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: law go on to commit much more serious crimes, which 416 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: is why we see you know, somebody broad daylight shooting 417 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: as a you know that was a car jacking, the 418 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: win bad or something. You find those person's been arrested 419 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: fifteen times for shoplifting, burglary, all these things. Buck, here's 420 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: an easy way to think about it for everybody out 421 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: there listening. You just ran through a lot of big 422 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: city DA names. How often did you even know the 423 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: name of the DA in the nineties and the two thousands, 424 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: My own city, that's it, that's right, other than your 425 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: own city. And you even had to be kind of 426 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: plugged in in your own city to know the DA 427 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: those names. We all know Gascone in La Krasner, as 428 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: you said, in Philadelphia, Coast to coast, we are aware 429 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg in the choices that he's making as the DA. 430 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: In New York City, DA's are so out of control 431 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: and crime has skyrocketed to such an extent that many 432 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: of us out there can just roll the names of 433 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: DA's off our tongues because they're doing such an awful job. 434 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: And I would submit to you that being a DA 435 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: is a lot like being an umpire or a referee 436 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: in sports. If we're talking about your name, you probably 437 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: did something that is a bad job, because I can't 438 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: even remember in the nineties and the two thousands, even 439 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: the early two tens buck where you could run so 440 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: many DA's names off the tip of your tongue like 441 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: we can now. I mentioned Baltimore. Baltimore's city attorney, a 442 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: City States Attorney, Marilyn Mosby. She actually just finished. I 443 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: knew she'd been in the headlines recently. She finished last 444 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: in her reelection bid for for that that job. When 445 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: we talk. She's also facing federal trial in September on 446 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: mortgage fraud and perjury chart ideal, which if you have 447 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: seen the wire, remember they get there's a Baltimore politician 448 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: who they try to get on mortgage fraud, which mortgage 449 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: fraud can can be when it's when it's a serious 450 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: when when they decide to go after it's a pretty 451 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: serious crime. And as we said, in Baltimore in particular, 452 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: it's such a perfect window into where violent crime is 453 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: coming from. Buck you mentioned the number of recitivus, people 454 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: who commit crimes end up back out on the street. 455 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: One of the data points in that analysis that was 456 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: done for the Wall Street Journal of murders in Baltimore 457 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: showed the ninety out of one hundred and ten of 458 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: murders that had been committed in a particular area were 459 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: being committed by people who had already been in prison 460 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: for violent crime and shouldn't have been out. Not only 461 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: were they in prison, they were convicted, and if they 462 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: had been in prison, you could have eliminated all of 463 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: those murders, which goes to your point because you worked 464 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: with the NYPD sum it's a tiny, tiny percentage of 465 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: people who are flagrantly violating the law and making cities 466 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: unsafe for white, Black, Asian and Hispanic people everywhere. We 467 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: get far less than one percent of particular neighborhoods where 468 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: crimes are high, and way less than one percent of 469 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: the people who live there. We just have to go 470 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: get the bad guys and keep them in jail, but 471 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: just getting rid of the most far left progressive prosecutors. 472 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: So that's Gascone, the ones we've been naming Gascone, Budan Mosby, 473 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: Kim Fox up in Chicago. Remember she was the one 474 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: who not only Fox has a particular legacy, she not 475 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: only made the Jesse's small Let case go away, tried 476 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: to seal it, yeah, so that nobody could ever reopen 477 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: it or look at it again. Tried to just make 478 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing go away for her buddy Jesse Smalltt 479 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: was horrible corruption, It was so obvious what had gone 480 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: on there. But getting rid of these individual bad actors. 481 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: And this is really the point. This is why I 482 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: think the New York Post analysis of the NYPD crime 483 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: data on recidivism is so interesting. It's not just the 484 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: individuals who they're the implementors of this. The whole ending 485 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: of mass incarceration ideology needs to be rejected. People need 486 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: to understand that this, oh, we need to stop locking 487 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: people up for thirty years for marijuana possession. That's actually 488 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: not what was happening. I'm not saying there weren't incidents 489 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: here and there where the criminal justice system got it 490 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: wrong or went after somebody or you know, punish somebody 491 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: too severely. Clearly, that's a thing and that should be addressed. 492 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: But instead of looking at those individual cases, the ideology 493 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: turned to the left wing progressive belief system was we 494 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: just need to lock up fewer people. In Philadelphia, they 495 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: they dropped the overall prison population and a few in 496 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: the course of a few years. I think it was 497 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: about forty per you know, you look at Pennsylvania State 498 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: prisons that that Philadelphia was sending people to, they had 499 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: a huge reduction in them in the prisoner population. And 500 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: what we've seen is but that's not because there was 501 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: a huge reduction in crime, folks. So instead of dealing 502 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: with this sensibly, they just decided to act like if 503 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: we let people out, everything will be better. It's pretty crazy. 504 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: It somehow became racist criminals behind bars. And that's why, 505 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: to me, a destructive argument of that one because you'll 506 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: hear if you're out there right now, and maybe you've 507 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: been in your daily life, maybe your kid, maybe one 508 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: of your friends comes out and says, well, the criminal 509 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: justice system is racist because there are too many minorities 510 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: behind bars. That's a common argument on the left. I 511 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: would just ask you to blow people's mind by saying, 512 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: why don't you argue that it's sexist because men are 513 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly put behind bars? Yet impact is a bad theory 514 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: to apply for criminal justice. But they'll say any context 515 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: that they'll say immediately, well, that's because men commit more crimes. 516 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: You just say exactly like criminals are the people who 517 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: get put behind bars. It's not a choice that's being made. 518 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: And that's why murder we've talked about is one of 519 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: the crime statistics that typically typically is reliable because there 520 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: is a dead body involved. You can argue about rug deals, 521 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: you can argue about a violent, even violent crime, but 522 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: murder is the one where when there's a dead body, 523 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: there's a pretty good sense somebody shot, pretty good sense 524 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: that it didn't happen by them by their own hand. 525 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: There's a crime, and if you look at the data, 526 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: the data is not reflective of the population. Men commit 527 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: almost all murders, almost all sexual assaults too. There are 528 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: a number of serious guy all armed robberies. How many 529 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: times have you seen an armed robbery recently committed by 530 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: a female? And it happens, but it's a very page 531 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: and nobody would accept the argument that the police are 532 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: are sexist because they're arresting men far too often. We 533 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: gotta go where the crime is, and we got to 534 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: arrest those guys, and they're mostly guys, and we got 535 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: to put them behind bars for full length of sentences. 536 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: And then we just like the nineties all over again. Buck, 537 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: we know the miracle starts to happen. Crime declines when 538 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: bad guys are behind bars. It's amazing. Yeah, it turns 539 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: out the stilling down there. 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Welcome back in Clay. Travis 559 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: buck Sexton show rolling you through the Friday edition of 560 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: the program live from Bedminster, and this is we just 561 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: talked in the first hour about Nancy Pelosi going to 562 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: China with President Trump, who was right here with us 563 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: for the first hour of the program. If you missed it, 564 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: here is what Chinese state affiliated media just tweeted in 565 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the last hour. If US fighter jets escort Pelosi's plane 566 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: into Taiwan. It is invasion. The PLA has the right 567 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: to forcibly dispel Pelosi's plane and the US fighter jets, 568 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: including firing warning shots and making technical tactical movement of obstruction. 569 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: If ineffective, then shoot them down. Trump mentioned that he 570 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: was concerned about China's relationship right now with Joe Biden 571 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: and also as a proxy the larger nation here, and 572 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: said World War three could be a danger in the 573 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 1: event of something occurring with Taiwan. Buck you were in 574 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: the CIA. He also said, we'll play you this audio 575 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: maybe in the third hour. That the challenge once the 576 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: news got out that Nancy Pelosi was going to go 577 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: to Taiwan is if you don't go, you look weak, 578 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: and if you do go, you further provoke. You don't 579 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: really have good options here. What do you think about 580 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: this Chinese state affiliated media putting this message out regarding 581 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Pelosi's potential trip to Taiwan. This is a particularly volatile moment. 582 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: The Chinese economy is doing terribly right now. You don't 583 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: hear a lot about that, but China internally now there's 584 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 1: a lot of dissatisfaction with where things are going, Shiji 585 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: and Pang has played his hand poorly. I think recently, 586 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: when you look at how China's doing coming out of COVID, 587 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: they're actually still going back into full on lockdowns. I 588 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: think even Wuhan, the original location, just went into another lockdown. 589 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: So why is all that time together? Well, because when 590 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: you're effectively a you're effectively running a mafia state. I 591 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: mean it's a communist party state, but really there are 592 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: about a thousand people in the Chinese Communist Party who 593 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: matter in the decision making process there, and the one 594 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: who matters by far more than anybody else is the dictator, 595 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: Shijin Ping. He's not doing well with control inside of 596 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: China people, there is dissatisfaction and on this issue, especially 597 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: given the backdrop of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, You've 598 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: got to think to yourself, everyone's been talking about Taiwan already. 599 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 1: It seems to me like they want to force the 600 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: issue one way or the other. Of US policy and 601 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: strategic ambiguity, which you know, we made fun of a 602 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: lot of Obama isms. He talked about leading from behind. 603 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Under the Obama administration, they talked about strategic patience, right, 604 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: leading from behind in Libya, and then the strategic patience 605 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: with regard to the Pacific rim I believe it was, 606 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: and China, which is another way, a fancy way of saying, 607 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: wait around, right, well, strategic ambiguity is all well and 608 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: good until they decide to push and see, well, what 609 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: does that actually mean. It's worth noting that under the 610 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Budapest Memorandum the United States signed with Russia and the 611 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: United Kingdom, we were supposed to defend the territorial integrity 612 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: on paper of Ukraine. Didn't go well for Ukraine. It's 613 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: also buck you know this, Biden has stumbled all over 614 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: that strategic ambiguity line publicly as president, where they've had 615 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: to come back at least twice that I can think 616 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: of and say no, no, no. When Joe Biden said that, 617 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: he didn't actually mean it. We're not changing policy in CIA. 618 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: In your experience there, what do you think the reaction 619 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: is when that tweet from Chinese state government threatening Nancy 620 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: Pelosi goes out, how much of a five alarm fire 621 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: would that set off? What does the reaction look like? 622 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: We know so much of what the intelligence community does 623 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: is respond to the request of the policymaker and try 624 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: to get them the best information they can under the circumstances. Right, 625 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: So CIA doesn't tell Biden, hey, you know you better, 626 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: They actually get very angry about that. You never want 627 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: to have You're never going to have people who feel 628 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: like they're telling the top of the executive branch what 629 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: to do from anywhere the intellect, unless it's all these 630 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: damn COVID scientists who feel like they have to be 631 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: followed a little different with the health bureaucracy than the 632 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: way it is and the policy community on foreign policy stuff. 633 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: But my point in bringing up the Budapest memorandum is 634 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: just we are going to be forced at some point 635 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: to have a real gut check moment here as a country. 636 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: If China were to invade Taiwan, Are we sending in 637 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: a carrier group? Are we shooting Chinese planes out of 638 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: the sky? We're really going to do that? Because we 639 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: haven't said we would do that, We've said maybe we've 640 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: let it be implied that that could happen if China 641 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: decid to forcibly take Taiwan. Now, that would take a 642 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: period of time, there would be It's not something they 643 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: could do overnight at least doesn't seem that way. So 644 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: what would the US response actually be? And when you 645 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: see that our response in Ukraine has been to provide 646 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: weapons and munitions, Okay, would that be the US response 647 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: to Taiwan? Or are we actually going to start shooting 648 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: Chinese planes out of the sky and then war with China? 649 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: You realize you can only get away with the strategic 650 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: ambiguity point for so long before they're going to force 651 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: your hand. And that's what I think when President Trump 652 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: was talking about the fear of World War three based 653 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: upon the realities of China and Taiwan. Right now, we 654 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: can argue about whether our policy response to Russia has 655 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: actually severely weakened them economically or not. But we don't 656 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: even have that ability. I don't think with China. What 657 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: are we going to tell Apple you can no longer 658 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: make iPhones in China? You know, if you think about 659 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: already the supply chain issues that we have, Russia has 660 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: relationships globally with the United States. China is the engine 661 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: of many United States corporations. Our Apple and Nike and 662 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: all of these major multinational brands going to suddenly say 663 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: we're pulling all of our interests out of China. Are 664 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: they going to shut down every KFC, every McDonald's Starbucks. 665 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to do with Russia when it's 666 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: a relatively small part of the easier anyway larger global economy. 667 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't even think we have that leverage with China 668 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: to enforce any kind of economic policies that are stringent. 669 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: We'll come back with more on this in just a 670 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: few minutes. Teams stay with us Fleet, Travis, and Buck 671 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: Sexton on the front lines of truth.