1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you know Jack Jack Warris? Did you 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: know Jeck Warris? Drive Time? Ryan Sextextra John Oh, say 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: it actually Jeff Warris Drive Time starts right now. Don't 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: count this team out yet. And um, and I think 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: they'll tell you the same thing. We we can't afford 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: a rebuilding year and and that's not our mindset. Our 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: mindset is to put um the best team out there 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: to play, to compete in the win. And UM, we 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: feel like these guys, the guys in this locker room. Um, 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, nobody has seen him play together, nobody has 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: seen him play a game. So, like I said, we're 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna know where we measure up. We played a very 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: talented uh Indianapolis Colts on Week one, and then we 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: follow up with a Final four team with the Tennessee Titans, 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: so we'll know pretty pretty quick where we measure up 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: with some of the top teams in the league. The 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: chance is coming for us and everyone to see what 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars team is actually going to look like. And 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: it is only six days away. Week one of the 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: regular season, starting off here on a Monday morning, Welcome 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: into Jaguars Drive Time. It is Dave one Dave Probable 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: spoke with us on Saturday and we learned all kinds 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: of news about the final roster. We're here to break 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: it down for you and John Osier prior to my calculations. 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: Today is day one of the regular season. We have 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: about sixty four more shows. Are you excited for day 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: one of our program? Jacks Driven? I couldn't be more excited, Slam. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter if I'm excited or night. It's here, 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: the trains leaving. Are you ready? All right, let's go 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: ahead and get into big things. Big Thing one is 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: one and fifteen. Sports Illustrated came out with their regular 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: season predictions and the Jaguars were predicted to finish last 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And when on Game, Want Want Wall, however, 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: be what Dave Cobble to the top of the show. 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: We don't know what this team's gonna look like, and 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: really no one does because no one has seen a 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: preseason game for a many one in the NFL. So 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: about those polls will get much more into that Big 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Thing too is my way. Dave Cobble and company cannot 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: afford another rebuilding here. You heard it here first. Sean 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: Kan has given Dave Cobwell and Doug Brown the keys 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: to build this team the way they want to build it. 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: No more Tom Coughlin here. It is just up to 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: Dave Cobble and Doug Brown, and the two of them 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: have made their expectations very clear. You know, our only 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: message was that let's keep the fifty three guys that 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: deserve to be on this team. And you know, uh 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Shod gave us a directive to put the best team 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: out there. Um and we feel like we did that 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: with the players that we have. So um, we had 51 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: to do two things in this this season and put 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: the best team out there A and be get our 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: salary cap under control. And um, those are two tough 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: things to do initially at the same time. But we 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: feel like we did a pretty good job. And big 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: thing three is now or never. Here we go Day one. 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Gardnerment Shoe quarterbacks steps up to the plate. Now or 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: never for Gardner Minsho hit a home run and forced 59 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguar now not spend for their wealthy draft capital 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: and draft a quarterback next year. Now, this quarterback room 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: has only two guys and they both look very different. 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Each guy's individually different um and and to be honest 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: with you, both their skill sets are a little bit different. 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: But he you know, and I know Coach Gruden's talked 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: about it, Coach McNew has talked about it. Jake has 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: been very impressive, um, and he's uh, you know, for 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. And you guys have been all have been 68 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: out there and watching him throw and watching him practice 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: him and uh, he actually made the decision relatively easy 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: for us. That's Dave Coward guarding the Jaguars signing Jake 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Luton to stay in that quarterback groom as the backup 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: quarterback to Gardner Minshew. Not a surprise any of us 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: that have been out on the field. Jake Lutlin definitely 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: looks like a very talented quarterback. Possibly a surprise to 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: people not paying attention to the team as closely. All right, 76 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, let's go up to big thing one. You're 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: the one who told me about this sports illustrative pole 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: one in fifteen. Not much of a surprise, especially last 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: week with all of the news. What are we thinking 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: of this? Well, you're you're thinking that this is what 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the league sees you as as a 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: complete rebuild, and so I went back and I looked 83 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: at the last two one and fifteen teams in the NFL, 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven Miami Dolphins, I looked at 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: the two thousand, eight oh and sixteen Detroit Lions, um 86 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: and then I looked at the the two and fourteen 87 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers and the two and fourteen Jackson Bill Jaguars 88 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: in the two thousand and twelve But I think this 89 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: roster has better overall elements. And I mean that that 90 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Detroit team that went I went sixteen at Calvin Johnson 91 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: for goodness, six you know, one of the best receivers 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: to ever play the game. So you know there was 93 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: some talent here and there and around the place, but 94 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: one in fifteen means nothing. It's just their words on 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: paper at this moment in time. But that's the perception 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: of the Jaguars franchise from the rest of the league. 97 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: And they're looking at they're looking at the division and 98 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: seeing three teams with quarterbacks and pass rushers and expectations 99 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and they're just they're saying, this is 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: the worst team in the league. And which is why 101 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: I think Dave came out so strongly and said we 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen them together. We haven't played a game yet. 103 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Don't give up on them. And I think there's some 104 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: things that some arrows pointing up for this franchise. The 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: draft capital that you mentioned, I mean they are in 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: great ship. The salary cap Dave mentioned he needed to 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: get fixed. It is fixed. They've got some dynamic young players, 108 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: some receivers, some path rushers. They have a young corner 109 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: they hope is everything you know that he is supposed 110 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: to be. They've got some nice young building blocks here. 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: One in fifteen is an indication of what they think 112 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: of you over all. Right, They're not looking They're just 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: looking at the roster. They're just looking at what they 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: think you can do this year. Um, the future is 115 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: very bright. The president maybe rocky, but you know, Dave 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: came out very strongly, and I think it was the 117 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: right thing to do and set the expectation for his team, 118 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: and that was, no matter what anyone else thinks of us, 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: We're not going to go into this season with the 120 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: mentality that we can't compete and we can't win. Yeah, John, 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: And it's it's pretty honest, especially since he mentioned, you know, 122 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: if this team is in a rebuilding year. I mean 123 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: Dave Colwell dug my own garnament to who else will 124 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: not be here? So I understand Jaguar stands with perception, 125 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: especially with Ronnie Harrison and the letter for net moves. 126 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: But John, what do you think of this poll and 127 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: do you agree that it was necessary for Dave Cobble 128 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: to come out and be passionate about that. Well, it's 129 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: the obvious choice, and it's the easy thing for National 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: people look at this and say, they lost Calais Campbell, 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: they lost Leonard Frenette, you know what, They lost all 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the guys that a lot of National people who don't 133 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: really dig into the league have heard of. So they 134 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: don't realize that Klais Campbell had been dipping something. They 135 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: don't realize that Leonard Fournett was not in above the 136 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: x as and I was running back. They don't realize 137 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: that Ronnie Harrison was probably the third best players position 138 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: on the team. They just see names. It's an easy 139 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: thing to paint this team one in fifteen. I don't 140 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: think it's a playoff team, but I don't think it's 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: an obscene argument to look at and say they could 142 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: be better than they were last year. When they were 143 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: six and ten, mainly because of one of my hot 144 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: takes coming up. So I'm not gonna blow that, but 145 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: I get that it's such an easy choice because you 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: go off offseason gains or losses. Prognosticators don't assume that 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: anybody on a current team can get better Chart Tay 148 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: or Josh Allen, Miles Jack. There's a lot of guys 149 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: on this team who could have significantly better years and 150 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: help them get at least out of that one in 151 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: fifteen range to a you know, single digit loss, six 152 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: and ten, seven and nine type thing. That's my ceiling form. 153 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: One in fifteen is not my basement. And yes, for 154 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell, yeah, absolutely definitely passionate on Saturday addressing this roster, 155 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: let's go to a big thing. Three Brian now or 156 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: never day one Gardner min who was walking into this 157 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: building in the regular season, and I know we've all 158 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: been impressed by Jake Luton. They signed Mike Glennon to 159 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: the practice squads. You're keeping two quarterbacks on the active roster, 160 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: but what do you think of getting one, getting rid 161 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: of Josh Dobbs and now having those two in the 162 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: quarterback room. They're very different types of quarterbacks. Well, Dobbs 163 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: is just a guy, right. I mean they traded a 164 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: pick form last year because they needed a guy, but 165 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: he was either here nor there. He was never in 166 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: consideration for even the backup job as I saw it 167 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: this year. You know, my overall look at why people 168 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: think that this football team is the worst in the NFL. 169 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: Just look at the quarterback room. You have last year's 170 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: sixth round pick and this year's sixth round pick. And 171 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: you're in a division where Philip Rivers is in Carola, 172 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: sorry in Indianapolis, and Deshaun Watson just got forty million 173 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: dollars a year and Ryan Tannehill got a big contract. 174 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: I mean, people are looking at your quarterback room and 175 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: they're saying, well, look, Josh Allen, d J Charts Chanal 176 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: to all these players, but what do you have at quarterback? 177 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: It brings us to the seminal question of this season. 178 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Is Gardner Minshew capable of being the man? I don't 179 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: know now. My personal opinion is I don't think he is, 180 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: but he gets the chance to prove that this season. 181 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: So that's why one in fifteen doesn't matter. Because if 182 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: Minshoe is as good as he was last year. Well, 183 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: the the Jaguars aren't one in fifteen. If he's better, 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: then they can be better than that. If he's not well, 185 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, then you're in a position where next year 186 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: you go and fix it. I think this is such 187 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: a massive story. And look at what he has to do. 188 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: The expectation right, the pressure with David Doug everyone assumes 189 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: that they are in the last year of their contract. 190 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Here if they don't produce a winner on the field 191 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: this year, covid uh the Trevor Lawrence issue that will 192 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: now be hanging like a cloud all season long. He's 193 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: got a massive mountain to climb. But as I wrote 194 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: in Quick Thoughts last week, that's kind of the way 195 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: he likes it. So it will be a very interesting story. 196 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: But if you want to know why people have low 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: expectations for your team, look no further than the quarterback room. Yeah, 198 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: not to mention the bullet point of having to deal 199 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: with the coronavirus pandemic as the starting quarterback, but John, 200 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: we talk about it, and it's it's kind of funny 201 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: when you hear the perception of taking for Trevor. If 202 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Gardner Minsho plays up to the level that we saw 203 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: him last season and does not improve it all. He's 204 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: probably gonna win three or four games and you're not 205 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: going to be the worst team in the NFL. So 206 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is good enough that you're not going to 207 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: be tanking for Trevor and we all expect him to 208 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: be better than he was last season. Yeah, I do. 209 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with Brian. I don't know if he's 210 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: a franchise guy. I don't know if he has the 211 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: arm strength. I don't know if he's tall enough to 212 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: see the field in that way which quarterbacks tell you matters. Um. 213 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: I get that he overcame some things last year, but 214 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: he also was very shaky at times last year. But 215 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: what he is, and we've all seen it, when the 216 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: chips are down, so to speak, when it's big playtime, 217 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: he has a tendency to make those so and he's 218 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: a leader. This team is not gonna quit on him, 219 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: and that helps late in games. You know they are 220 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: not gonna quit if things start bad, which could get 221 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: you out of that two and fourteen range. Um, that's 222 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: no man's land. That's where you don't want to be. 223 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: That's the danger of it. But I'm with Brian Gardner 224 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Minshew has a chance here to do what he's been 225 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: doing for the last five years, prove everybody wrong, overcome 226 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: all the odds. He's climbed a lot of mountains. This 227 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: is everest. I think it's worth pointing out here. Also, 228 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: he Leonard Fournette has gone. That was a dependable running game, 229 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: no matter what you thought of Leonard's upside. Last year, 230 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: he produced almost eleven yards rushing um and he was 231 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: a reliable thread out of the backfield with seventy six 232 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: catches and nearly sevent yards. That's gone now, right, so 233 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: defenses could stack the line is scrimmaged in the past. 234 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Now they don't have to. That's gonna make Gardner's job 235 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult. And the other side of 236 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: the coin is maybe Caleb and Chason comes on early 237 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: and is what we expect him to become. But you 238 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: don't have a Gonquay over there, so the past rush 239 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: isn't gonna be quite what we thought it might be. 240 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: And the coverage on the back end, there's a rookie 241 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: on one side, so you know that's gonna be a 242 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: little bit. I guess what I'm saying is Gardener is 243 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: really gonna have to pull this sled up the mountain. Now. 244 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be their best player on offense 245 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: if they're going to go where he wants to go. 246 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: It's not He's not going to be able to rely 247 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: on a lot of things early on this season. Maybe 248 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: they evolve, you know, that's what Dave was talking about. 249 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: You hasn't seen these guys together. They think they've put 250 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: them to, you know, to a roster together that Jake 251 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: Gruden and Ben McAdoo and those guys on the offense 252 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: can work with. Um. I'm just anticipating it's gonna be 253 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: tough sledding early on because people are gonna make Gardner 254 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: Minshew beat them all. Kinds of questions, long, long list, 255 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: but hopefully we find out some answers to Week one 256 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: against the Colts. 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We're all able to keep two of 287 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: those two of the three, and I got a call 288 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: on Ronnie and I was able to get value for 289 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: the guy that may have been possibly to add band 290 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: out because of the other guys. Andrew Winger and Brandon 291 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Watson are are special teams guys and they've really played 292 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: a free safety. So it was really more about the 293 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: guys we have and getting value for Ronnie and um 294 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: putting him in a position where he can go and 295 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: compete for a starting job. We're back Jack's Drive Time 296 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Monday Morning, brought to you by Jet Holwans. That was 297 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Dave Probable breaking down the Ronnie Harrison trade to the 298 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, bringing back Brian and John Oo's You're to 299 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: talk about this quickly. Johnny heard what Big Cobble just 300 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: sat right there. We saw what Ronnie Harrison was tweeting 301 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: out on social media yesterday. And it's crazy to think 302 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: from when they drafted Ryne to this position right now. 303 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: But they're very confident in the safeties they have right 304 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: now on this roster. This is this is a non 305 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: story to me. Whatever Ronnie Harrison says, it's they're better 306 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: without him. It's fine, you know, talk about Leonard for 307 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Nett a little bit. They lost one guy last week 308 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt, and they lost in dock Way. Maybe 309 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: Leonard a little bit. They'll be fine without Ronnie Harrison. 310 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't care what he tweets. Move on, you know, actually, 311 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: get off my lawn. There's there's a bit of us 312 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: against the world here, and Dave was playing that card 313 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: gently with the don't give up these guys, because it 314 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: wasn't like he said, well, no one believes in us 315 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: but us. You know, players will start talking about that 316 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: this week and they'll get asked about one in fifteen 317 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: and they'll circle the wagons. But when Ronnie Harrison goes 318 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: out and tweets like that, and and Leonard didn't write. 319 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: Leonard was gracious on that, and Gockway was gracious on that. 320 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: But again, you wonder why people think you're one in 321 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: fifteen material the quarterback room right, the fact that you 322 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: trade in Gockway, you release for Net and you trade Harrison, 323 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: and again perception of all of that, and then there's 324 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: a perception that no one wants to be in Jacksonville. 325 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, unique and gock Way, they go back to 326 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. There's all that stuff and none of it 327 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: matters right now. Absolutely none of it matters at this point. 328 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: It's about who's in the locker room. What's the game 329 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: plan that the coaches are able to put together week 330 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: to week to bring this young team that's never played 331 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: together together and to get it done. It is an 332 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: uphill battle. We talked about were Gardner Minshew, but also 333 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: for this roster because they are fighting a very negative 334 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: perception of the Jacksonville Jaguars as we start the season. 335 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: That might be something that they put on their shoulder 336 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: and whereas a chip, it might help them as they 337 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: rally week to week. I couldn't agree more. Already have 338 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder and this most likely it 339 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: is just adding to it. As we get into some 340 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: Bernie Wood fired grill hot takes going into week one 341 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: of the regular season we have let's go, Branny Sexson. 342 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: We're going back to you. What is your hot taking? Well, look, 343 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: I think what you want about this roster. It isn't 344 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: very experienced and they don't have a lot of depth 345 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: with what sixteen rookies. Um, but this is not as 346 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: bad as that team in you had you had a 347 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: very thin offensive line. I mean Brad Nest was a 348 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: season veteran. He was your best player on the offensive line. 349 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: You know you had chatted Henny really is the guy 350 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: that you could point to and move forward with, you know, 351 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: as your quarterback. UM and Blank Gabbard and and Maurice Jones. 352 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: Drew was here, but he wasn't you know, he was done. 353 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: His knee had had blown up. They didn't have the 354 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: pass rush they had Paul paz lesni uh. I mean 355 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: they had something they could work with their um. But 356 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: this roster has more exciting young talent. Not nearly enough. 357 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: But if you just want to talk about young players 358 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: like DJ Chark and Lavisca Chernault, Um, you want to 359 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: talk about the two young tackles. Cam Robinson has an 360 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: excellent camp um and Juwan Taylor. Uh. We we're not 361 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: gonna get to see Josh Oliver, but you know what 362 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: we did see of he was like, Wow, look at 363 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: that guy. He really made strides. Josh Allen, Calebon, Chason, 364 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: Miles Jack. Uh, you've got some exciting young players. They've 365 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: got more to build on in now. That team won 366 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: four of its final eight games after starting oh and eight. 367 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: They finished four in twelve. Whether this team does that 368 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: or not, better or worse, I'm just looking at the 369 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: players and I think this roster has more exciting, young, 370 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: promising talent. Again, some arrows up draft capital, salary cap 371 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: opportunities in and some young talent to build around. You 372 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: just need more. I couldn't agree more. You have some 373 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: names that definitely stand out when you break it down 374 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: like that, and John Osier, you and Ryan were on 375 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: the same page. You wanted the same hot take. You're 376 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: going a little more specific with this season. Yeah, I 377 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: couldn't agree more with Brian. You also throw Miles Jack 378 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: And there's so many impact players on this I shouldn't 379 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: say so many, so many more than that team, but 380 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: specifically to me, the offensive line this year, if this 381 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: team is going to surprise people, if it's going to 382 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: be better than the haters think it's going to be 383 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line and that and that's ironic because that 384 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: was the most criticized area, but it is the most 385 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: experienced area. It's an area where everybody is coming back 386 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: from last year. If you look at it, Brandon Linder 387 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: seventh year, Andrew Norwell, seventh year in the league, Camera 388 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: Robinson fourth year in the league, a j Can six. 389 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: That's a veteran bunch, and they brought it back for continuity. 390 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: They brought it back because they believe it's a strength. 391 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars observers look at this unit and all they see 392 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: is the criticism in the last few years. If it 393 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: is a strength that they believe it is, well, that's 394 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: a lot to build around, and then it helps all 395 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: these other young offensive players. I don't know if it's 396 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: a strength, but it has to be the way this 397 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: team's built. Yeah, Johnny, you've gotta think the coaching staff 398 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: and the locker room as a whole think it's a strength. 399 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: Because that's what we've been hearing the entire offseason, starting 400 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: with the common is that they really were going to 401 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: address the offensive line much in the draft because they 402 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: feel good about where it is right now, so we'll 403 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: see when that goes to the test. Sunday, Mine Bernie 404 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: Wood fire Grill hot take is all about defensive side 405 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: in the ball and specifically middle linebacker Joe Schobert's. The 406 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: potential success of the defense lies on his shoulders. And 407 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Of course, Lynn, it does 408 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: because he's the middle linebacker, always does, but now more 409 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: than ever, especially with this team, with all the shifting 410 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: we saw in the defensive line during training camp, you 411 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: know now have a young secondary, even more so than 412 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: we thought a couple of weeks ago. You have Miles 413 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: moving to the weak side. And there's no reason that 414 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: Joe Schoberg can't get this done. He hasn't shown us 415 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: anything but that during training camp. But you look at 416 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the middle linebacker what he normally has to do with 417 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: the team. You look at this roster, in the rookies, 418 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: in the age difference, the potential and the weight on 419 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: Joe Schobert's shoulders. I think if he has a good year, 420 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: this defense has a good year. Brian. I know we've 421 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: seen a lot out of him, but it's a lot 422 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: to ask out of a guy that just got here. 423 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: Here's what you're asking him to do to be a 424 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: great tackler. I don't care whether he has forced fumbles 425 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: or interceptions or fumble recoveries. All I want for him 426 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: is a hundred and twenty five tackles right. That means 427 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: he will have been roaming near the line of scrimmage 428 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: and making plays. The other guy, Miles Jack is going 429 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: to be the guy with the tip ball interception returned 430 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: for a touchdown, scoop and score kind of stuff. He's 431 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: put into that position where he can really use his 432 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: incredible athleticism. What I want from Scholberg five tackles. Everything 433 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: else is a bonus. Just give me those. Yeah. More so, 434 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: you just need a guy that you can rely on, 435 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: a steady eddie, always know what's new, blinding guys up. 436 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: That's definitely what Joe Schobert was brought him here to do. 437 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: Oh go for I want to go back real quick 438 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: to one thing on on John's and that is something 439 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: that I said a couple of weeks ago. If Cam 440 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: Robinson has a big season, this offensive line will have 441 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: a big season. He looks primed for it based on 442 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: what we saw John at training camp. If he comes 443 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: out to play and they don't have to worry about 444 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: left tackle. That makes the whole job a lot easier 445 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: and sounds to me as if they believe that Cam 446 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: Robinson is going to get that done this year. If 447 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: he's good, the offensive line has a better chance to 448 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: be good and this offense can function and that's what 449 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: they hope. Clearly, the way they built this team, they 450 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: think that's a strength and they think Cam Robinson gonna 451 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: be healthy. He's the He's the key to it all, 452 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: if you will. I don't think they take chances with 453 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: the roster if they don't feel comfortable with him. I 454 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: think they think they keep some guys and hold on 455 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: to some different players here and there. I think Cam 456 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: Robinson is going to be the key, just like you 457 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: trying to agree more. Cam Robinson's chance to show he 458 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: can be the left tackle for this season and all 459 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: seasons going forward. Right, let me come back to visit 460 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: the ozone mail back here on Jaguar's Drive time. 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Speaking of the 492 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: twitter sphere that we were talking about when we came 493 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: back from last break, all about Ronnie Harrison, Josh Allen 494 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: on the other side of the spectrum, it's great to 495 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: be at Jacksonville. Jaguar heat tweets a guy that we're 496 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: definitely depending on two lead in this locker room. He says, 497 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: at first, to be a leader, you gotta make place. 498 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: We'll see if he can get that done. Started Week 499 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: one Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts. As we visit the 500 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Ozel mail bag, let's go to Wyoming, shall we? John 501 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Stormy has something for you. How many weeks into the 502 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: season until we bench quarterback Gardner Minshew for struggles and 503 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: fully commit to tanking. My faith and management has finally 504 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: hit zero optimism for you Monday morning. Yeah, And I 505 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: understand the tanking theory because everybody's talking about it. But 506 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe that this is going to be a 507 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: case where Gardner Minshew gets an early hook, whatever that is. 508 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: I think they'll go with him this year until they 509 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: know definitively in their evaluation that he can't do it, 510 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: that he's hurting them or whatever, or that they've seen 511 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: enough to know they've seen too much. Um, I don't 512 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: see that happening. I would from a I guess selfish 513 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: point of view. I would love to see Jake Lewton 514 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: because I look at him and say, boy, there's a 515 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: lot of talent there. But this has to be a year, Bryan, 516 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: where they give Gardner Minshew every opportunity, and I think 517 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take a lot for him not 518 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: to be playing this year if he's healthy. I would agree, 519 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: you know. Doug said as much last week in his 520 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: news conference the day they released Leonard for Nette. He said, 521 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: I forget the tanking thing because if if they're in 522 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: a position to draft number one overall, I won't be 523 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: the coach. And then Dave said on Saturday when he 524 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: was talking about the roster that they don't have time 525 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: for rebuild, so they're at least spoken opinion is they 526 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: gotta win this year, and that's what most people think. Look, 527 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: they've gambled. They've gambled on Gardner Minshew. Whether that's a 528 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: good bet or not, we'll find out. They gambled with 529 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: sixteen rookies. Okay, they have rolled their dice, they have 530 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: put their cards down on the table, whatever gambling analogy 531 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: that you want to use. But they have gambled with 532 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, and they're not gonna pull It's not like 533 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: you can say, hey, look last year, we got six 534 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: wins out of a six round pick. Let's get six 535 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: wins out of the six round pick this year. They 536 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: are all in on Gardner Minshew. They're not pulling him 537 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: because if you pull him, you're pulling in for a 538 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: six round pick, or you're pulling him for Mike Glennan 539 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: or a Josh Dobbs kind of player. He's your best opportunity. 540 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: No matter what this year, they're gonna stay with him. 541 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: They're also gambling on their guys. They're also gambling on 542 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: their guys. They want their guys in the building. They 543 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: don't want Twitter expert Ryan Harrison in the building. So 544 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: that's what they want. Guys who are pulling in in 545 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: the same direction and who aren't on Twitter. Yes, that's 546 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: a key. Twitter expert Ronnie Hairs and I like that one. John, 547 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Let's go to up the USA. Sean has something for us? 548 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: How has tight and Tyler Eiffort looked in practice looking 549 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: forward to seeing him on the field helping open up 550 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: the passing game. Well, this is sort of Brian's guy, 551 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: so I included it for him. He looked very good. 552 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: You know the key with him can you stay healthy? 553 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: It's it's almost Brian as if people assume following the Jaguars, 554 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to believe it that he's good. 555 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: It's almost too much to hope for because he's been 556 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: hurt so much. The tight end position has been hurt 557 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: so much. It's almost like you don't want to believe it. 558 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: You see the shiny Christmas president under the tree, you 559 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: know it's probably a bike, but you're scared to really 560 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: believe it's a bike, and you hope you open up 561 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: and you hope Tyler Eifford's their bike. Well, look, I've 562 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: always been a fan of the tight end position. You know, 563 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: those guys that have to do both right, who could 564 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: put their hand in the ground and block for the 565 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: running game and then get down the field and make plays. 566 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: But you know, over the years the position has changed. 567 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean Kyle Brady was one of those last guys 568 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: who could do that, and then Marcedes Lewis was a 569 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: much better blocker than a lot of people thought. This 570 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: guy could do it. He could put his hand in 571 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: the ground and be impactful in the running game, and 572 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: watching him, he's so. First of all, he's big. He's 573 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: a six ft six, two hundred and sixty pound guy, 574 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: long arms, big hands, prototypical tight end. He looks effortless running. 575 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: I said it's a hot take last week. If they're 576 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: in close games, Tyler Eiffort will be the difference. He's 577 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the guy who had thirteen touchdowns in his Pro Bowl season. 578 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: He is a capable, smart, athletic, talented guy. And you 579 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: saw James O'Shaughnessy, who's been a journeyman, start to make 580 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: great strides last year before he got hurt with Gardner Minshew. 581 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I can only imagine what a Pro Bowl 582 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: caliber talent like Eiffort will be able to do. He 583 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: will be one of Minshew's favorite targets. I guarantee it, 584 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: because Chart's gonna see a lot of attention down the field, 585 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: and I think Ninsho's gonna I'm not minshewed Iffort's going 586 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: to be able to get Minshew's eyes. If they get 587 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: the same production out of James O'Shaughnessy that they got 588 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: last year, that tight end room could definitely be successful 589 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: this season. Let's go to Deed to wrap this up. 590 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: Since we keep releasing non elite players, are there any 591 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: current Jaguars players that you would call elite? Well, this 592 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: question was in response to me basically saying they hadn't 593 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: let anybody go who was elite yet, and he certainly 594 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: didn't choose to let elite people go last week. Last 595 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: week you made the argument that yawns very close to elite. 596 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: They didn't let him go they couldn't work out a deal. 597 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think Josh Allen is a smidge away 598 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: from being elite. He has a real chance to be 599 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: elite by the end of this year, and I think 600 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: DJ Chark and Joan Taylor on their way. Brian's point 601 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: earlier is a really good one. There are so many 602 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: more potential foundation pieces here then there are when most 603 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: teams start a rebuild. There are there are pieces here. 604 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: You just want Gardener to be closer to being elite. 605 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: That's why everything looks so funny right now. You're not 606 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: sure what the quarterback is, but there are pieces on 607 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: this team that are getting close to being that sort 608 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: of status where maybe multi year Pro bowlers. That's a 609 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: good sign. So my philosophy us this, there are five 610 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: premium positions where you need elite players to be an 611 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: elite team. You need a quarterback and they don't have 612 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: that right now. You need a left tackle. You might 613 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: have one. I don't know if he's elite, elite elite, 614 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: but he's got the potential to be really really good 615 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: in Cam Robinson. You need a pass rusher, right they've 616 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: got that in Josh Allen. You need a wide receiver, 617 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: take your pick d J. H Art, maybe Leiviska chanlt Okay, 618 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: and then a corner. I think most people expect C. J. 619 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: Henderson has elite potential to be that upper echelon. That's 620 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: why they chose him nine overall. So at four of 621 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: the five premium positions, you either have an answer or 622 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: you have a possibility of an answer. 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