WEBVTT - Why Did Easter Island's Civilization Collapse?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you should know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry's over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wellcome those big stone heads behind you. We must be

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<v Speaker 1>on Easter Island. Yeah we are, Chuck. We just started

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<v Speaker 1>every show like that will role play. Who are you

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<v Speaker 1>right now? I don't know I was. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what that was. He started off as me, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it went into Barney Fife or something right, Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Barney Fife on holiday to Eastern Island, or

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<v Speaker 1>Rapa Nui. Mr Limpett yeah, boy, that ages or Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken the Ghost of Mr Chicken another good one. I'd say.

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<v Speaker 1>S of our listeners are like, who is Barney five?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was Mr Limpett? It was Mr Chicken. Go look

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<v Speaker 1>it up. You'll be delighted. Yeah, man, don yeah. He

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<v Speaker 1>He also did great turns on Scooby Doo oh sure

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<v Speaker 1>in three Company. Yeah. Man, he had a great career.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that guy. R I p don knots is

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<v Speaker 1>he not with us? Oh? Yeah yeah. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>died like in the last five, six, ten years. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you never know, man, you know some of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, sure, like a Vagoda. People thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was dead for years. It was like a part of

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture that he was dead. He just died this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the way. Yeah, it's very sad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, fine, here we go. I think that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good Is that the ultimate compliment or the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate sign of disrespect that when he passed, everyone's like

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were already dead. Disrespect. Okay, Um, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on East Tryland, that's where we were, That's right, which

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<v Speaker 1>means the big rappa in Polynesian. Yeah in Rapa Nui language.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? Are you alluding to Joe versus

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<v Speaker 1>the volcano? Okay, that's the pony wos. Yeah, the big

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<v Speaker 1>Wou was the volcano. I just thought you were playing

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<v Speaker 1>on that. No. I was looking high and low for

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<v Speaker 1>what rapa Nui translates into English, and all I could

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<v Speaker 1>see where jackass As you said that it translates to

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Island. Like, that's not what I mean? Internet? Um

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<v Speaker 1>did you punch the Internet? But it turned out it

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<v Speaker 1>was just my last Um. No, the the closest I

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<v Speaker 1>found was that rapa Nui means big Rappa r A

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<v Speaker 1>p A no idea what rappa means? Did you see

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<v Speaker 1>the movie rap? No? Kevin Reynolds movie? Is that? Who

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<v Speaker 1>made it? Yeah? I think he wrote and directed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he directed it. I'm pretty sure he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>it too. And who is he? What do I know

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<v Speaker 1>that name? Oh, he's done all sorts of stuff, the

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<v Speaker 1>water World. No, that's Kevin Um. Well, no, he was

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<v Speaker 1>in it, but I think he directed to um. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Reynolds and Kevin Costner's UM careers were very much intertwined.

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<v Speaker 1>May I think got confused a lot. He's done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great stuff. But we you didn't see Revenue. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it's a a story, fictional story wrapped in

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<v Speaker 1>the events of probably the decline of the island would

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<v Speaker 1>be my guest. Yes, civil war, strife, possibly cannibalism. What's interesting, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that that fictional story wrapped in the true life events. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out the true life events are probably fictional

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah. This actually and maybe I should give

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<v Speaker 1>our own article a break because most people have been

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<v Speaker 1>telling the same story for years, which is basically the

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<v Speaker 1>story that author Jared Diamond told in his book In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five called collapse. Right, he popularized it. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the first one to come up with this interpretation. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's he's the one that really he's the gun

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<v Speaker 1>germs and the old guy, right, one of one of

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<v Speaker 1>my heroes. You wrote one of the greatest things I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever read, um, the worst mistake in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the human race. But like a one word book, but her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think of something. But that's better

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<v Speaker 1>than anything I could have thought of. No, he was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he made the case that moving from hunting

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<v Speaker 1>and gathering to agriculture was the worst mistake humans have

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<v Speaker 1>ever made. Great, it's all over the internet if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go read it. Really great easy read. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and life changing change my life? Is that why you

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<v Speaker 1>stalk buffalo today? By hand? Raise my own crops? You

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<v Speaker 1>come home, You're like, you mean skin that thing? I

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<v Speaker 1>need a pelt. She's like, I just got done skinning

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<v Speaker 1>the last one from me yesterday. Uh, you skin it

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<v Speaker 1>and you go okay. Um, where were we We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Kevin Reynolds rep New Week and there we

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<v Speaker 1>were saying that um. And by the way, Kevin Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>did direct water World. It did Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Kevin Costner movies with the Postman too. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he did Fandango. That was a good one. Um, he's

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<v Speaker 1>done a bunch of stuff, all right. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I remember where I was, which is, um, we should

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<v Speaker 1>take it easy on our article a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little annoyed that this article didn't say theorized

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. It kind of just said, like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happened, and and it was really judgy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the thing that it bought into is an extremely

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<v Speaker 1>judgy interpretation of things, and it bought it as fact.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the judgest article on the whole site. Well what

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<v Speaker 1>about the one I sent you earlier today? Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you deal with brown Nosers? Yeah? An article on

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<v Speaker 1>our site called how the Deal with Brown Nosers? Four pages? Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for advice, go check it out. Good

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<v Speaker 1>miss me, um, weird times my friend. Uh so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little annoyed that it kind of treated

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<v Speaker 1>us all as absolute scientific fact when it certainly isn't. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems like one of those things that like

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<v Speaker 1>someone said it, someone else wrote a popular book, and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone's like, oh, well, that's what happened, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's really unusual for anthropology and archaeology. Frankly, Jared Diamond

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<v Speaker 1>should have known better. Um, he's really taken a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of heat. Um, his star was pretty high at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He had like a neat geo show. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote guns, Germs and Steel. He wrote this book Collapse,

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<v Speaker 1>How civilizations decide to choose or choose to succeed or fail,

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<v Speaker 1>And like even the wording in that title, like how

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<v Speaker 1>is a society chooses to fail? You know, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>judging in and of itself. So his he he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>you know fell There are a lot of um plays

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<v Speaker 1>on the word collapse and Jared Diamond collapsing as a result.

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<v Speaker 1>So now he goes in that geo and knocks on

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<v Speaker 1>the door and like everyone's like, light up, No, if

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<v Speaker 1>we turn it off, 'll see that, right. But Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the point is is that there is a a set

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<v Speaker 1>of fact related to Rappannui to Easter Island that when

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<v Speaker 1>you put together, form a mystery, a mystery that's basically

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<v Speaker 1>been around since the first Europeans set foot fann Easter

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<v Speaker 1>Island then came back and brought news of this place

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the world. People have puzzled over

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<v Speaker 1>what happened there, and Um the problem is, is the

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<v Speaker 1>oral traditions that came along or that that came from

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<v Speaker 1>Rapanui from Easter Island, Um came along in like the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighties, a good hundred and fifty years after Europeans

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<v Speaker 1>came and christianized everybody, when the population had been down

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<v Speaker 1>to like a hundred people. And even today anthropologists and

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<v Speaker 1>archaeologists say like, we don't really trust the oral tradition

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<v Speaker 1>from Rapanui at all, Like it's not a they don't

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a trustworthy source of information, even like in

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<v Speaker 1>a folkloric way. We're saying, like the basics of it

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<v Speaker 1>might not even be correct. So they're having to go back,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very weird. That's a very unusual position to

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<v Speaker 1>be in UM, both for the people from the indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>culture and the people who are trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what happened UM. But so the challenges to take what

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<v Speaker 1>we do know for a fact about Rapa Nui and

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<v Speaker 1>then interpret it correctly and not in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>like this is it. This is the end all, be

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<v Speaker 1>all explanations, which seems to be this weird thing that

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<v Speaker 1>rapa Nui has over academics who should know better. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. And the part about Jared Diamond, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason he felt so hard is that his interpretation, or

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<v Speaker 1>the interpretation that he glomped onto and like popularized in

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<v Speaker 1>his book was really really judge, really judgey, really like

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<v Speaker 1>these people screwed up with their stupid faith and some

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<v Speaker 1>wacky tiki god and um and look what brought him.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we all need to learn the lesson because

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<v Speaker 1>we're going down the same road and that's just not

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<v Speaker 1>thought and you're not supposed to do that, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't we do it this way? We'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you the story as has been theorized and popularized

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<v Speaker 1>for many years, and then we'll hold off till the

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<v Speaker 1>end for some new insights. They give away too much. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so just judge, I was judge? No,

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<v Speaker 1>okay uh. Just because you say the word judge doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make you judge, is that right? I think? So? Okay uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And also just want to tease us. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>very special listener mail later too. How about that? Lots

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons to stick around, all right, so you keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying these words like Easter Island and Rapa Nui like

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<v Speaker 1>they're the same thing, because they are. Rapa Nui also

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<v Speaker 1>called East the Pasqua, which means Easter Island in Spanish. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, Easter Island. It's actually named, of course, when

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter what your islands called. When the Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>or the British or the Spaniards would come a call

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<v Speaker 1>and they would say, oh no, no, no, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call. It doesn't matter what you say. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it Easter Island. Because I'm a Dutch admiral name uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob rogue Vine, And um, it's Easter when I landed

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<v Speaker 1>here in seventeen two, So what a great name. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's Easter Island. Rogue Vine also gets credit for discovering

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Island. Um. Actually he was looking for an island

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<v Speaker 1>that was Easter Island that had been described by a

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<v Speaker 1>pirate named Edward Davis in seven Davis didn't come ashore,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, even rogue Vine was convinced that Easter Island

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<v Speaker 1>was the island that Davis had described. Did he say

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<v Speaker 1>they're large stone heads? No, he didn't. He didn't mention

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<v Speaker 1>the heads at all. Well, of course, weird Easter Island

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm sure everybody knows this, but we should say

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<v Speaker 1>right away that they are very well known and most

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<v Speaker 1>well known for their mo i m o ai. These

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<v Speaker 1>um beautiful, enormous carved stone statues, not just stone heads

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<v Speaker 1>and that whole boy, it's annoying the internet thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>still pops up like once a year when people like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>there were bodies too. It's not just heads. They've discovered

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<v Speaker 1>their bodies are buried underground, like they've known that since

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<v Speaker 1>like the early nineteen hundreds. But its this, it's this

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<v Speaker 1>weird look up snopes, like, it's this weird internet thing

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<v Speaker 1>where every couple of years, the same stinking article gets

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<v Speaker 1>shared the shows all these archaeologists like have dug down

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<v Speaker 1>and discovered their bodies beneath the earth, even though we've

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<v Speaker 1>known this forever. So anyway, these beautiful, beautiful statues, which

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about in greater detail, but let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about the how the original island was,

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<v Speaker 1>uh well what it was like. They're who these people were,

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<v Speaker 1>the originally calling yeah, the Wapoos, which to the island

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<v Speaker 1>is Rappa Newi towards and the inhabitants of the island

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<v Speaker 1>are called the Rapa Nui clean simple, I love it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the rap and we they think we're probably a

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<v Speaker 1>single family. Um that was headed up by a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who was considered the first chief of the island um

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Hotu Matua or the great parent. Hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what just occurred to me. Vagoda was the

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<v Speaker 1>leader of the Yeah, all right, God, was there a

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<v Speaker 1>better movie than that one. It's one of my faiths.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it a lot. Yeah, it's Kevin reynolds masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>So Hotu Matua is originally the first chief of um

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<v Speaker 1>A Repnue, and he allegedly came with just his family.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know exactly what they were doing out in

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<v Speaker 1>their canoes, but they had seaworthy canoes because they hailed

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<v Speaker 1>from Polynesia and they were great, great sailors, very experienced

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<v Speaker 1>and hardy at sea. Yes, so I mean and they

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<v Speaker 1>this would have been a longstanding edition trying out setting

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<v Speaker 1>out for new unknown islands because they believe that Polynesians

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<v Speaker 1>are descended from Southeast Asians who somewhere between thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years ago left Southeast Asia started moving eastward um

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<v Speaker 1>toward the western coast of South America in that general direction,

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<v Speaker 1>and would come across an island, stay there, popular populated,

0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>move on to another one populated, And that's how Polynesia

0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.200
<v Speaker 1>got populated. Rapa Nui I believe is the easternmost island

0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.800
<v Speaker 1>in Polynesia. So they think that that was settled last. Yeah,

0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.200
<v Speaker 1>go to Google Earth if you're in front of your

0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.640
<v Speaker 1>computer and just type in Easter Island and then it'll

0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:48.160
<v Speaker 1>pop up this little triangular shaped island and uh then

0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.960
<v Speaker 1>just start zooming out and keep zooming out and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of blue. And it's amazing to think

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<v Speaker 1>that people got there in a canoe. Yeah, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like through eight thousand or thirty five hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>from from Tahiti, right, Yeah, like miles from right but

0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Chile is not where they came from, so they would

0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.760
<v Speaker 1>have traveled by canoe. But that's the closest land that

0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.600
<v Speaker 1>right is still away. It's amazing, Yeah, our remote, but

0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>they traveled like three thousand thirty miles in a canoe.

0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable to get from one one island to another, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably less. I think there's probably islands between Tahiti and

0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Easter Island. But even still they traveled a very substantial distance.

0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.400
<v Speaker 1>And then they clearly were intending to either make it

0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to another island or to colonize Rapanui because they brought

0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.760
<v Speaker 1>with them supplies, right, they brought with them plants to plant,

0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.320
<v Speaker 1>like the Tarot route, which is like, I believe a

0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.800
<v Speaker 1>cousin of the sweet potato. It's like a purple sweet potato.

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<v Speaker 1>That is correct, uh, Nanners and Tarot and this whole

0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.640
<v Speaker 1>sweet potato thing too. Was there was somebody who put

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<v Speaker 1>out there that thor hired All, Yeah, maybe they came

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<v Speaker 1>from South America because that's that's where the sweet potato

0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.840
<v Speaker 1>comes from. And then other people have since said, no,

0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of evidence that suggests us not true. Right, well, Thorie, Yeah,

0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.640
<v Speaker 1>thor hired All said, hey, they're sweet potatoes here. Sweet

0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:24.840
<v Speaker 1>potatoes are indigenous to South America, therefore they're from South America. Yeah,

0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.720
<v Speaker 1>he didn't really put a lot of thought into that.

0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.320
<v Speaker 1>And well, he was an explorer, you know, that's what

0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he did. He explored. He built a raft contiki and

0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:37.120
<v Speaker 1>saled it himself from South America to Eastern Island back

0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in the fifties. I mean it was cool, but he

0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.360
<v Speaker 1>was a doer, a little more than a thinker. Right,

0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And I believe they've concluded that the sweet potato actually

0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:51.280
<v Speaker 1>originated in Southeast Asia, which just lends support even more. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so they came here, they settled this island,

0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.960
<v Speaker 1>they landed on. The shore it's tiny, it is. It's

0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.520
<v Speaker 1>about three times the size of Manhattan. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four square miles. Like I said, it's triangular. And

0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it was created, like a lot of the islands, um

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<v Speaker 1>from volcanic eruptions, which also come to play with these statues,

0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.320
<v Speaker 1>as we will see. Yea and uh. When they landed,

0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:21.840
<v Speaker 1>his family said, well, we're family, but we better get

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<v Speaker 1>to populating the place. So here's some wine, here's some

0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.680
<v Speaker 1>taro root, let's get to it. Right. The island they

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<v Speaker 1>landed on, though, was potentially, they think, much different than

0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the island that we know today. Um, if you go

0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.280
<v Speaker 1>there today, it's it's you're gonna see some white sandy

0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.280
<v Speaker 1>beaches and not a lot of trees. Um. They believed

0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.760
<v Speaker 1>that there could have been as many a sixteen million

0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.800
<v Speaker 1>palm trees at first, just like rife with palm trees. Yeah,

0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.440
<v Speaker 1>like so many of the islands, like god damn with

0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the palm trees whenever another one grows. Yeah, And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the most Uh, it wasn't the friendliest. I mean

0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I say friendly. It was friendly, but it wasn't hospitable. Yeah,

0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.479
<v Speaker 1>that's the word. There wasn't like just food everywhere, and

0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like tons of seafood. Like apparently the waters around there

0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.880
<v Speaker 1>are lower nutrients, so no coral reefs, and that means

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of fish. So you had some lizards,

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<v Speaker 1>you had some molluski, had some insects, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>if you went fishing, you had to go deep sea fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>like away from the island. But again like get a dolphin,

0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:33.680
<v Speaker 1>right dolphin, that's um, which which they could do because

0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:38.439
<v Speaker 1>they had really great canoes. Um. But they they it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was, it was in ordeal. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of vegetables basically, and a lot of those they planted, so, um,

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.320
<v Speaker 1>they're living this way. This article says they settled about

0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:58.199
<v Speaker 1>four sea right um, which was what years ago I

0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:02.760
<v Speaker 1>saw elsewhere from are reliable sources. Most people think it

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<v Speaker 1>was about a thousand years ago instead of six hundred,

0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.840
<v Speaker 1>so about one thousand. See, they settled the island and

0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the population starts to grow pretty quickly. Apparently having six

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<v Speaker 1>toes was a fairly normal trait among Rapa Nui originally

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<v Speaker 1>because they might be in bread sure um and uh,

0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.960
<v Speaker 1>everything was going kind of honky dorry. They started they

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<v Speaker 1>started ostensibly slashing and burning trees to clear land for fields,

0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:36.880
<v Speaker 1>um and uh they made they made their way. Yeah.

0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.280
<v Speaker 1>They were very spiritual people. They believed in the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of mana, a sense of mana, which is uh, this

0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.440
<v Speaker 1>spiritual and political authority. And they uh they instilled this

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<v Speaker 1>through their arts, through cave drawings and through these statues

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.359
<v Speaker 1>which still haven't really gotten to and through carvings, music, dance,

0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was a big deal. At meant

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to them, right. So they the Repanuians followed

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional Polynesian um structure of governance, which was there

0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.399
<v Speaker 1>was a different clans right um and then there was

0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:16.399
<v Speaker 1>one head chief, one tribal leader um that was in

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.480
<v Speaker 1>charge of everybody, right basically like a vogoda. Who else

0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.080
<v Speaker 1>would you want? And the authority of that chief came

0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:27.280
<v Speaker 1>from de sease ancestors, other chiefs that had lived and

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<v Speaker 1>died and were now venerated as basically idol, supernatural idols

0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.119
<v Speaker 1>by the people who lived on the island. And this

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:39.719
<v Speaker 1>power came through the came from these ancestors to the

0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.200
<v Speaker 1>living chiefs in the form of this manner the spiritual

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.680
<v Speaker 1>power and one of the most um but one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most focused, laser focused ways Manna was emanated was

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<v Speaker 1>better way to cook? All right? These mo i, which

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<v Speaker 1>you refer to as heads because you believe that internet

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Speaker 1>mean well, it's not so much that it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to the body. Yes, proportionately speaking, it's almost all ahead,

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.399
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Which some people think that one of the

0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>reasons is because they were meant to be a fallast. Yeah,

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and of course that's taken as literal fact by the

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 1>how stuff Works article. That's right. All right, So um,

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>these uh moai, these beautiful statues that it's not something

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that you will only find on Easter Island. If you

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>go to Hawaii or Tahiti, you will see similar type things. Uh.

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 1>And this was, like you said, this was like the

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<v Speaker 1>purest expression of that mana and how they felt about

0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>their ancestors. I think that what they how they understood

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it was that the man of this divine energy or

0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>divine power literally transmitted through the um. Moi man, I'm

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna have trouble with that the whole time. So it's

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of vowels together. Moi, it is m a

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>O m o ai. I think that's a mistake you're making.

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>You're thinking a moi, you're thinking maori. Right? Maybe not? Yes,

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you're exactly correct. And um. So these things were built.

0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a volcano. They're called Reino Ra Roku and uh.

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>In the pits of this volcano they have this volcanic ash,

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>this rock that's very lightweight. Even though these things still

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 1>weigh a lot, doesn't weigh as much as you know,

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>like granite would let's say lightweight rock. It's very porous,

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:18.959
<v Speaker 1>it's malleable, it's very hard, and it's originally it's tinted

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.919
<v Speaker 1>in like orange and ochre and um. At first, they

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>would start around you know, twelve a D or what

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>do you say now? But even that is um kind

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 1>of a nod to that whole thing. Uh. Instead, I

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>think in scientists just say years ago okay, oh I

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like that, so they'd be like eight hundred years ago

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that's clean, or or they say X years before present,

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>so y bp okay, that's not as clean, but I

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 1>still like it. Yeah, um I'm done with hye bp

0:23:56.240 --> 0:24:00.479
<v Speaker 1>yeah you know me so um terrible. Uh. They started

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>off kind of small. They were not as big as

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they would eventually get because they were just kind of

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>learning and teaching themselves how to do this. Uh. They

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>were they were still large though, but um, they weren't

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 1>as large as like later on they would find something

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 1>that they couldn't even move and we'll get to this,

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>but they would eventually move these things. But like L

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Gigante was the largest one they found, and that was

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>like almost seventy two ft tall. Yeah. Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>up to a hundred and sixty five tons is how

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 1>much they estimate L Gigante ways yeah, but the the

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>initial ones that they started with were much much smaller,

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and so like let's go with ten feet or so

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and five or six tons Yeah, even that's still nothing

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to sneeze at though, you know, correct, um, no matter

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>how big your head is. So um l L gigante

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>specifically though, it is representative of I think one of

0:24:54.840 --> 0:25:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the late um the late moi be because it's still there.

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>It's still left in its volcanic kit. It was never

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>even excavated. Fully. Yeah, it's just laying there, I think,

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>um horizontally to the ground. Because you know that, like

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>they would go in and be like, this area is

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be the moi, and they would carve it out.

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>They carve out the outline of it, and then they'd

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>start carving down around it and start carving out the features,

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>carve out beneath it um or if it was standing up,

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>they would carve out around it and then just leave

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a little pedestal yeah, called the keel. Uh. This article

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>says it was flat, but as we'll see later, that

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>may or may not be true. And then they would

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>separate it from its keel and then bring it down

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the mountains somehow, maybe rope something like that to their aho,

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>which would be the platform on which the mo i

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>would eventually stand, and they would line them up on

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the island's perimeter facing in into the island, not out

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to the sea. Yeah, which it says here, possibly they

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>were you know, guarding, watchfully guarding the islands. I would

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>think that they would be looking out towards the sea

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>if that were the case. I don't know who knows, um,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that that point though, where they were brought

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>down the mountain and brought to their ahu. I mean,

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>like this this island was again it's three times the

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>size of Manhattan. That was not a just a quick

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>thing necessarily. And that's actually like a huge mystery. How

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>did they get these things that? Again some like the

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>small ones weighed six tons um. Big ones weighed you know,

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>scores of tons. How many How did they get these

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>things from one place to another? Um, especially considering that

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>all they had were palm trees. Palm trees are not

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the sturdiest trees on the on the planet, and the

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of rope you can make from like palm is

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>not the strongest rope. So um, it's been a longstanding

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 1>mystery of how they did this. Yeah, And here's one

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>prevailing theory that from many years and a lot of

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>people still believe this is how they moved them. Was

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that they would finish the statue. Uh, like we said,

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 1>cut it from the keel, uh, lower it down with

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>ropes from the area in the volcano, and then uh

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>put it on these palm logs and use those as

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like a conveyor system, essentially rolling these things along very

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>slowly over great distances, even though, like you said, to

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>small island, to the whole one of these things was

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>no easy task. Right. So that's the prevailing theory, and

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it's actually been tested um more than once. Um an

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>archaeologist named Joe and von Tilburg who um said, you

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>know what if you took one of these things and

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you laid it on its back on top of some logs,

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>like basically make a sled out of logs facing say

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in north south direction, uh, and then you roll them

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>over logs that are in east west alignment right perpendicular

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>to it. That that could probably work. And they tested

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>out her theory and apparently it took twelve people to

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.679
<v Speaker 1>move like a six or eight ton uh MOI a

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty feet took him two minutes. Yeah, so

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that is a theory. Um. There's this other guy that

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.479
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about a little bit later who

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>has some theories that just smack diamond right in the face.

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>His name is Carl LiPo or Lippo l I p

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>O of a cal State Long Beach. Um, go bananas lugs. No, No,

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that's San Jose State, right, cal State Long Beach, the Longshoreman.

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear from them, the cal State Long Beach

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Port Authority. I like that. Uh so Terry Hunt of

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the University of Hawaii. No, well we're yeah, yeah, Carl

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Lippo and Terry Hunt, right, yeah, these two dudes, um

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>who have their own theories about the other stuff. Like

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, but they said and tested, they said, you

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>know what, these things they had broader shoulder I'm sorry,

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>broader bases than shoulders, and it wasn't exactly flat on

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the bottom. You could actually walk these dudes. Stand them upright,

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>get three ropes, get people on the side on each

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>side of this, and one person in the back holding

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it up and just kind of rock it back and

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>forth and it sort of waddles forward. It's amazing to see.

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>There's this really cool there's a National Geographic video on

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>YouTube that um shows all these different ways that they

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>were tried, all these different theories tried out done with

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the anima action figures or something. Yeah, well you can

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>see the real thing too. Right at the end, they

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>show these guys trying out the real thing. And this

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>thing is like walking down the road. It's really neat um.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And it actually jibes with the Rapa Nui oral tradition

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that the the moai walked to their aho their pedestals. Yeah,

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>they actually said we tied rope and walked them. Well,

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>supposedly they whoever had a lot of manna, was in

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>charge of making these things walk, and they did it

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>with their manna. But that the idea that you could

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>make these things walk with some rope and the I

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and and tying into you know, the oral tradition that

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>they walked him, that's pretty fascinating, agreed. Uh. And in

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>their real tests they only used eighteen people, so that

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 1>ties in with their theories about how many people lived there,

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>which we'll get too later. But a few ropes eighteen

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>people and they maneuver to ten foot five time replica

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>a few hundred yards. Uh. People poo poo this and say,

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, not all these bases were larger than

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the shoulders first of all, and second of all, you

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>basically carved a runway to do this, and it wasn't

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like that for them. They were taking this over terrain.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>There's no way you could have walked these dudes, let's see.

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>But maybe they did both, you know, well, there's there's

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>plenty of other theories this. Um. This Czechoslaw Slovakian engineer

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>named Pavel Pavel great name, right, Yes, the magicians so

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>nice you had to right he said that, um, and

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the same magician because I assume he's gonna say magic,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>yeah right, I don't think so. No, No, that's Eric

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>van Dakin who said that it was UFOs that did it. Um. No,

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Pavel Pavlo said it was kind of like it was

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>similar to that walking thing, but rather than the thing

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>actually like kind of wobbling down the road, he uh

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>postulated a um, a twisting motion. Right, so it's it's

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of like walking, but no part of the base

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>actually leaves the ground, just like one part twist four

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you twist the other side forward and it

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>slowly makes its way forward kind of the same. Um.

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And then there's a big debate over okay, if you

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>had him on a sled that was rolling over logs.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Were they standing up or were they laying down? Um.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>The key thing to remember whenever you're talking about, or

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>hearing somebody else more importantly talk about Rapa Nui is

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that no one knows for certain anything. No, but they're

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>making their that's not assumptions, but they're theories, hypotheses at

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>bestes at best, and and they're they're all their interpretations

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of the few facts that we do know. Right And

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and one of the one of the things that has

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>long been debated to is um the idea of the

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>population collapse that must have happened on Rapa Nui. Right.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So when Admiral rogue Vine showed up, uh he he

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>he was the first European to see the um the

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>moi in person, and he's like, these things are amazing,

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they're huge. But I estimate there's something like maybe three

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand people living on this island. So something must have

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>led to this population declined, because it would have taken

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand or twenty thousand people to build and construct

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and move these things down the volcano, construct their ahu,

0:32:55.800 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>their pedestals and get them up there. Um. So what

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>happened to the Rapa Nui and it from the moment

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he got back to Europe and shared this story about

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Easter Island. This mystery has plagued archaeology in the West.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>What led to this population decline among the Rapa Nui?

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>What happened on Easter Island. It's one of the great

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.480
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0:34:48.040 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>squares Space. So chuckers were back, um and again just

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to go over Jacob Rogevine admiral landed on the island.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>By the way. First thing he did was killed twelve

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Repnuians who apparently, no, I didn't see anywhere we're posing

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>any threat whatsoever. Well, that's what you do to say

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>we mean business. And I'm sure they were thinking could

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>have killed a couple of us, And we get the picture,

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 1>even one that would have done it one and then

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 1>make eye contact for an extended period of time does

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>the same thing as killing a dozen people, or just

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>fire your boomstick in the air. Um. So rogue Vine

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 1>shows up and it's like something really bad happened here.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>The people have built I think it's something like almost

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred moai on the island, um, but only a

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>couple of hundred are on there. A who and we

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't say they're a who. Um. Actually, these platforms, according

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 1>to revenue tradition, were burial grounds, the burial the tombs

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>for the um chiefs that the Moai represent, so very

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>much the same way. It's very much the same way

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>that like the Egyptians UM built uh statues or edifices

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that were likenesses of the person who was buried there.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>This is basically the same thing. Yeah, their ancestors. Uh wow,

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>let's said Rice, you did said it right right? So

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>he so he shows up and he's like, there's hundreds

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>of these things. A lot of them are abandoned en

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>route from the mountain down to the Ahu. Some of

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>them are left in the pit um. This place doesn't

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.479
<v Speaker 1>have any trees and there's only three thousand people living here.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Something really bad took place, and everyone wants to know what. Yeah,

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>so that's um. Like we said, Jared Diamond did not

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>invent this, but the theory that he popularized in two

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand five was that what they did was they basically

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>decimated the island's resources because they used all these palm trees.

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>They burned them down, they cleared pass they built huts,

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they built canoes, they used them to roll the the

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>moi with. Yeah, so they basically took away and didn't

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>understand what the outcome of this would be. So they

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>took all these trees out, made these pathways, and then

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>what happened was the there were no roots to keep

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>and we I think the we do want on erosion

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>or yeah, so if you don't have tree roots, just

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the rain is just gonna wash away all the top soil,

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the land's gonna erode. You're not gonna be able to

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 1>plant anything. And they were relying because, like we said earlier,

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have like tons and tons of fish and

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>food everywhere, so they were relying on the vegetation for

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>their food food source, plus the few animals that they

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>did rely on, like uh, lizards, birds. When they cut

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>down the trees, they were um ruining the those animals habitats,

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>so they affected their food supply and that they stripped

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the land and couldn't grow crops. But they also got

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>rid of the birds and the lizards that we're living

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>on the island as well. That's right. So the populations

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>declining because of essentially starvation, people then begin to turn

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>on one another. The head chief they split into a

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of different factions. Uh, I don't think a couple

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>like several factions and then started fighting each other for

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the small bits of land that we're still fertile. Right. Yeah,

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the the chief definitely lost control of the island, um,

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 1>and apparently warfare broke out, which is evidenced by these

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>things called matta supposedly evidenced. Right. So these are like

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>very very sharp obsidian spears that Rogue Vine even mentions

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 1>in his chronicle, um, that are supposedly implements of war.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And if you scour Rapanui, you're gonna find these things everywhere.

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 1>So but not the very sharp there's. Right. So there's

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>evidence of like these spear like implements all over the island,

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 1>which further suggests that there was a lot of warfare there.

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>And then um also this motif pops up, this birdman motif. Yeah,

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I love this. So a birdman cult popped up in

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.720
<v Speaker 1>the power vacuum that formed when the chief lost control

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in the face of this ecological crisis, and the birdman

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>cult actually um created like a parallel government government I

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>guess based on this uh this god Makimaki. Yeah, so

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a power vacuum. Birdman cult forms because they need to,

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, feel the leadership void. Uh. There was an

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 1>idea that if the first person it was basically a

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>contest um, whoever finds the first egg of this turn

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>um of the year, gets to be the birdman, the

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>leader of the bird men. Right, And so they would

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>go scrounging around, climbing up the volcanoes in the in

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the mountainous areas. So okay that this article says that

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw elsewhere that they went down the cliff, swam

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to it offshore island and rated some turn nests. Yeah,

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>well they're way egg. Yeah, they're looking for the Sudi

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Turn Egg. It's a great band name. Yeah, that's not bad.

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe Birdman Cult. That's a good one with the

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.399
<v Speaker 1>album title Sudi Turn You know the cult, the band

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the Cult, they were originally called Southern Death Cult. Yeah,

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Uh so whoever, like I said, found this

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>would be the the leader of the cult. Yeah. And um,

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 1>second prize said a steake knives. Third prize, you're fired. Actually,

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>second prize was you would stab yourself with a spear supposedly.

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Supposedly again, not a lot of evidence to suggest, no,

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.240
<v Speaker 1>but this how stuff works article takes it as fact.

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 1>That's right, and it sounds like something like a six

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>year old telling the story you through into and if

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you if you didn't find the first day, you had

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to stab yourself with your own spear. So the Birdman

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>cult supposedly in this prevailing theory and I don't even

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>know if I can say prevailing anymore. And this one

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>theory put forward was um, they were responsible for building

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>back up the population and the culture of Easter Island. Uh.

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>They started seeing all these cave drawings of birds and things,

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 1>which kind of makes sense, and life on Easter Island

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>was starting to pick back up again supposedly when the

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Dutch came in seventeen twenty two. Yeah, so all of this,

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>this this collapse um that led to famine and warfare

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>and cannibalism supposedly supposedly, um, all took place right before

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the Europeans showed up. Um. And then as the Europeans

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>came first, it was the Dutch in seventeen twenty two,

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the Spanish showed up in seventeen seventy two, Captain Cook

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>James Cook. Uh, he showed up in seventeen seventy four.

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:08.919
<v Speaker 1>And as when when James Cook showed up, um. After that,

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the missionaries started to come I think the Spanish actually

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>annexed Easter Island. Yeah, in a very sneaky way. They said, oh,

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>look at this, this is a writing tool, and this

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>is something you can write on. You should practice by

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>just doing whatever you can do with this right here

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>on this dotted line. And they said, oh, well, thank you.

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>You just signed over the rights of the island to

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the Spanish. Right yeah, this scribble that you just put

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>down that works for us. And I think in the

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighties eight Chile um annexed Easter Island, and today

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Easter Islanders are Chilean citizens still. Um. But by this time,

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>by the late nineteenth century, the population of Easter Island,

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it dwindled down to like a hundred and ten people,

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>right yeah, thanks to the influence of what the Westerners brought. Well, okay,

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:03.919
<v Speaker 1>so that's basically the prevailing legend that we just went over,

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that they they overused the resources available to them in

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>this greed and competition. Um. The there there is apparently

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>evidence that there was a lot of competitiveness among the

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>carvers of the moi. Um. I guess the idea was

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that the bigger and better your moi, the more opportunity

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the mana had to flow from it, right um, which

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>meant the more powerful you were in practical terms on

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the island. Um. And that they were just using up

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>all of these resources heedlessly, carelessly, and they brought along

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this ecological collapse right um. And then you can throw

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in that they probably would have been totally wiped off

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the face of the earth had the Westerners not shown

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>up and stabilized their society further. Right So, I mean

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they christianized them. They taught them how to read, um,

0:43:56.719 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>they taught them how to raise cattle and lie of stock.

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>And today if you go to Rapa Nui there are

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>plenty of Rapa Nuians still living on the island today.

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the populations back to about two thousand, three thousand, right.

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>So um. All of that is the narrative that stood

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>for many many years until UM. I think about two

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>thousand ten, maybe two thousand eleven. There was a an

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>archaeologist and her name is Dr Marrow Mulrooney. UM. She's

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 1>from uh Honolulu. She works for the Bernice Pauahi Bishop Museum.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I have trouble with Polynesian words, um in Honolulu, and

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>she did a study at Rapa Nui um, and said,

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I think this interpretation is wrong. I don't think there

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>was a collapse, a population collapse at all. That's right. Uh.

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>This is published in the journal Antiquity. Uh, and some

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>other research as have gotten on board this train that

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>basically said, you know what, there, we're just going on this.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>There must have been ten people there just because someone said,

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>well there had to be look at these statues, right,

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and there really wasn't any archaeological evidence to prove anything,

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>no scientific evidence. So their theory is that no, the

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>population when the Dutch showed up two to three thousand

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>was kind of about right. That was a normal, stable population,

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 1>and that it hadn't been a bunch of people before that.

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>It had probably been about the same. Yeah. And that

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>LiPo guy that I talked about earlier, he was in

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>on this and um, he has demonstrated through evidence how

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>those mo I like I said, could have been moved, constructed,

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>built in, moved without twenty thousand people. Um. He said

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>they had plenty of food, they weren't starving like when

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the Dutch showed up. They even offered the Dutch food

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and said I would like your hats, not like, oh

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm starving. You gotta help us, Yeah, give

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 1>me food. So there's a lot of evidence there that

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>that you know that they were doing just fine basically. Right.

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>The thing was is that, I mean, like there was

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:12.359
<v Speaker 1>evidence that some sort of collapse had happened. It's just

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea that there was a population collapses, like you said,

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 1>based on rogue Vine's idea that there must have been

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>more people before. Right. Um, there, they're pretty much everyone

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>agrees that there was in an ecological collapse, that there

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>used to be way more trees and that this huge

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>loss of trees led to a loss of cropland of

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>arable soil. Um. But exactly how that happened is what's

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>really an issue. And it's a really big distinction because

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the Jared Diamond camp says that the Rapa Nui went

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>crazy and buck wild, building their idols to their gods

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and chopped down all the trees and shot themselves in

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the feet. Right. Uh. The newer interpretation, led by people

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>like mulrooney and Hunt and LiPo say we think it

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was rats. Actually yeah, so here's the idea. Uh, these

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>rats stow away on the canoes, they can reproduce at

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>what they say in this article furious rate. Uh, Polynesian

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>rat population can double in forty seven days in a

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>lab setting. There are no predators on the island, plenty

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of food these tree roots, so if they multiplied, they

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>said that there could have been as many as two

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to three million rats on this island. And you hit

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it on the head. They eat trees, they eat little

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>tree shoots, they eat tree seeds, so they keep trees

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that have been cut down from being replaced. That's right,

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So the rats are eating all this. There's also evidence

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that they were potentially eating these rats as a food source. Uh.

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>So it all is kind of lining up that it

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 1>was not necessarily a mystery of population decimation. But they

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 1>call it a success story that these people learn to

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.320
<v Speaker 1>adapt to their new environment, do things like eat rats

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and kind of maintain a stable population. Right. And then

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the the way, as a result of that

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>birdman cult taking over power, somebody figured out that if

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 1>you take um volcanic rock and just basically sprinkle it

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>like um, pretty decent sized chunks of it, but just

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>spread it out over former crop land, when the wind

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>blows from the sea, it's going to blow through these

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>rocks and it actually knocks some of the minerals out

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of the rocks and into the soil, and it does

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>just enough to make the soil nutrient rich again so

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that they could start growing crops once more. Right, so,

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 1>these people had some real ingenious adaptations. Like the rats

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>allegedly ostensibly came and kept the trees from growing back,

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 1>which denuded the island. So they started eating the rats

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.240
<v Speaker 1>because they couldn't fish anymore because they didn't have trees

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:56.359
<v Speaker 1>to build the canoes, So they ate the rats. They

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>figured out how to make the soil arable again, very

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>art so they could grow crops. So the normal, the

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>normal two thousand, three thousand person sized population learned to

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 1>sustain themselves even in the face of this ecological crisis. Right,

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>so that's a success. Oh yeah, that's that's the new

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>interpretation of it. I like it. Another couple of things

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that kind of lend to this theory is that, um,

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>remember earlier we're talking about the mata, these spearheads supposedly

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that they used when they turned on each other and

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>delved into civil war. Uh, they took a closer look

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.719
<v Speaker 1>at these these researchers and they said, you know what

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>if these are all supposed to be spearheads, they should

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 1>probably all look about the same. And these things that

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 1>we're finding don't look the same. They're all kinds of shapes.

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.720
<v Speaker 1>They're not sharp. Uh, they're actually kind of dulled and

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be very good for stabbing. Um. And what

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we think these are our tools for scraping, like brakes

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and hose and things that were left behind, and they

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>weren't They weren't meant to be spearheads at all. Yeah.

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>So this great evidence that there was an enormous amount

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of war, uh, it turns out to be um farm

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>tools in this new interpretation. Yeah. And then finally when

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the Europeans arrived, there was a population decline and they

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:17.399
<v Speaker 1>they say it's due to maybe STDs smallpox or yeah,

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the plague, smallpox and STDs. Right, because again, yeah, when

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>they when Rogovin showed up three thousand people and the

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighties down to it like a hundred, a hundred

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and ten um. Yeah, So that it's really important to

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>remember that all this new stuff that refutes diamond and

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and that um, the idea, the interpretation that he threw

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 1>his weight behind this is all interpretation as well. It's

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a new interpretation of very old facts. But um, it

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>swings the other way. It doesn't say these people created

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>what Diamond called eco side, you know where like they

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>killed their their ecosystem, they killed their environment, and they

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 1>s for it as a result. They say, no, they

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>had they were dealt a bad hand with these rats

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that came aboard and and spread and and prevented trees,

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>very important trees from growing. UM and they persevered. It's

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not a story of collapses, a story of continuity.

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>My favorite interpretation is Robert Crollwitch's from MPR from Radio

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Lab and he he kind of took a look at

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.839
<v Speaker 1>these new findings and said, I guess I see what

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that this is a success story, But is

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 1>it really like learning to make do? He's like, if

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you do want to take the rapa nui story and

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>apply it to um modern day ecology, which is what

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone tries to do, He's like, this is really scary

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>because it suggests that we'll keep going along in the

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.799
<v Speaker 1>face of like climate change getting worse and worse, but

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll get used to it more and more and we'll

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>make do. We'll just keep blimping along rather than doing

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>something about it, taking the bull by the horns and

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>moving forward to to progress rather than just muddling along.

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a good point, oh, kroll, which is full of

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>good points. Let's let's radio web guys. They've been doing

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>it right for years. Yeah. I still haven't met those dudes,

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 1>have you know? Never have I think our friends from

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff to blow in your mind? Yeah, yeah we haven't. No,

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of one of the neat things

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.359
<v Speaker 1>about the podcaster community is that you end up meeting

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people and becoming pals. Not not

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>them though, No, I've never like, I don't think they've

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 1>ever been at anything we've done. It's not that they've

0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>avoided us or have Oh I think they have, but

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of anonymously and bood oh, come on boot, that's

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 1>what krow, which sounds like. No, it would be uh,

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>very much more well produced than that, right, sound effects music.

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 1>It would be good. Uh. If you want to know

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 1>more about rap ANUEI type those words into the search

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 1>part how stuff worst dot com? Read that, and then

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 1>go do more research on the web to get the

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 1>full story. Yeah, come up with your own theory. Sure,

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it's the fun thing. To send it in. Yeah, I said,

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>search far in this somewhere says time for the listener man. Yeah,

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the very special listener mail that I promised, because if

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you remember, many years ago, we did a special two

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:19.239
<v Speaker 1>part episode on our travels through Guatemala with you and

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.919
<v Speaker 1>me and Jerry and some Yeah, we all went down

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:27.799
<v Speaker 1>there on special limitation from our friends at the Cooperative

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Cooperative for Education co ED out of Cincinnata. And um.

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 1>We used to talk about them a lot because the

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:41.280
<v Speaker 1>great work they do with their school book program and uh,

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean that they've just done some like their life's work,

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, helping out the children of Guatemala. It's a

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.879
<v Speaker 1>great program too, self sustainable. Well, they got a new

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 1>one we haven't talked about in a while. So we

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>heard from Anne dem c r pal down there and

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:56.320
<v Speaker 1>uh and then this all came about because Anne was

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.399
<v Speaker 1>a fan and listener. So she still listens. Huh yeah,

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>she says she is. I believe her. Yeah, So uh,

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>here it goes. They have a new program going called

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Thousand Girls Initiative, and it's very cool. What they're doing

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>is they're ramping up efforts to keep one thousand girls

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in Guatemala from dropping out of school. Uh. As we

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>learned when we went over there, keeping these kids in

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>school is a real challenge because parents are often like, no,

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you know your ten Now you need to stay home

0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and work because we need that. So keeping these uh,

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<v Speaker 1>especially young girls educated is a really valuable thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>uh they've made it their mission to keep a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>girls from dropping out by it's one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>investments you can make in the developing world's education. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes twelve years of education to break the cycle of poverty,

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<v Speaker 1>and Guatemala twelve years. But poor rural Guatemalan, which we

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<v Speaker 1>met plenty of down there, they have a one in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty chance of reaching that milestone. So uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's they have an uphill challenge ahead of them. So

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing now they have You can sponsor them.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make it. Uh. You can be a sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>and pledge to keep a girl from dropping out of school.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh seventy dollars a month, or if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do thirty five dollars a month, they will actually match

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<v Speaker 1>your donation with another sponsor to make sure that that

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<v Speaker 1>one student is able to continue her education. So either

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five bucks or seventy dollars a month. You can

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<v Speaker 1>literally keep a girl in school. How did they do it, Chuck, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to they have a very special link called

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Girls Initiative dot org and that's spelled out t

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<v Speaker 1>h o U s a Indie girls Initiative dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can actually pick out the student you sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one of the great things that co ED does.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put a real face and a real person,

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<v Speaker 1>send them seventy or thirty five bucks a month, and

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a really great thing that you're doing. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's from Anne and that's from co ED and they're

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<v Speaker 1>still doing great work and we just think they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>lovely people and we couldn't be more proud out of

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<v Speaker 1>their continued efforts. Yeah, thanks a lot, guys, thanks a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, thanks for keeping us updated. And uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go help them, what's that you are? Elegant, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>Thousand Girls Initiative dot org. Nice. Uh. And in the meantime,

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