1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're black. We're back bread ambition, ambition, ambition. 2 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Hey marew how you doing girl? 3 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to the farm. I'm I'm doing good. I'm 4 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: just a working woman in America. My employer doesn't provide 5 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: me a nice place to pump, so I got a 6 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: pump on the are y'all. Oh, So if you hear 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: little mechanisms in the background, just know that it is 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: mother nature creating. 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: I love that women be literally so dope that you 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: produce your own food for the babies. You don't know why. 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: And they questioned it, like last night, my in laws 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: came because they've been helping out with the baby, and anyway, 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: the conversation of how big he has gotten came up 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: and what are you feeding him? You must be doing 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: more than milk. I'm like, actually no, and you know, 16 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: he's four months now. So people start trying to like 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: test to see how I feel about solids. I'm like, 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: do not try to tell me that, but just a 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: little bit of oat milk and his bottle, the mill 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: his bottle. Yeah, No, you can't give him water because 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: he has a hiccups. Nope, you sure can't. 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because how do babies how old do babies have 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: to be before they can get water? 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the advice is six months and beyond, 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: but even no, no, even after six months, their primary 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: their their liquid should be breast milk, I think, or 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: like formula. Yeah. Yeah, And it's so funny because like 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: I had a kid not that long ago, and even 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm just like reminding myself google it real quick. What 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: is the women again? What can I feed him? And when? 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: Because not me in the dark at like three am, 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: stuffing an uncrustable down my gullet because I'm starving, because 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: breastfeeding makes you hell hungry and thirsty. Yeah, holding an 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: infant who I don't know yet has if a peanut 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: allergy or not, and I'm just like I'm gonna eat 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: this real fast. I'm trying not to touch you. 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, because peanut allergies are not just ingested, 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: it's like literally like in your like in the air. 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: Okay, there's just so many ways to soild. 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I tell you, My sister, like she sent me this 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: video and she was like, this is how I feel. 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: It was this video of this woman describing being a 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: working mom. She said, first shift is your actual job, 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: which wears you all the way out and you are depleted. 45 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: But oh no, no, there's second shift, which are your 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: children or child And she said, so now you have 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: to and she's like, second shift it's the most important shift. Meanwhile, 48 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: you're already depleted navigating taking on this job of like 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: raising and did you eat? And then someone said, oh, 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: you forgot about third shift if you're partnered, because you 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: know they want to hug and dinner and you good. 52 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: She was like, I I can't imagine first, second, and 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: third shift every single day. I'm not gonna lie. I 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons why I delayed trying to 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: start a family is because I taught preschool for so 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: long and I could not imagine loving on the babies 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: as much as I did, and then somehow going home 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: and having anything left over. I can imagine it. 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're kind of describing like I know, 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: you said working moms. But my husband, you know, he 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: has to he has such a long day because he's 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: a communterer. He commutes to the city. And I think 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: that in the first years of parenthood it's and you know, 64 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: I put myself in the category too. We're pretty hard 65 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: on dads. Making fun of them. You know, they don't 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: do enough. And it's true because like, society has not 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: prepared a lot of these men to be an equal partner, 68 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: and it's up to us to beat it into them 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: so the next generation can be different. Congrats to anyone 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: who marries my boys, You're welcome. But anyway, but like, 71 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: but I have to sit and acknowledge, like, you know, 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: he gets such a short end of the stick. I'm 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, you know, I work at home. I could 74 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: take a quick nap if I need to. Enrique, he 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: gets up at five thirty two, and usually Rio, my oldest, 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: is sneaking into our bed around between one and three am. 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: And he doesn't just come in and snuggle up, and like, oh, 78 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: I just want to be next to mommy and daddy. 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: He roasts my husband, like physically roasts him, like kicks him, 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: and it's only him, not me. He leaves me alone. 81 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: But I just hear them fighting like an old married 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: couple over the sheets, over the pillow because he wants 83 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: to have the same pillow. And then he's kicking daddy 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like and and Regue is livid. But it's 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: a three year old. But he is such a little asshole. 86 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: Why can I say that? Yeah, And like in kicking 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Enrique and he can't sleep and he's not feeling. We're 88 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: both like sharing a cold right now. So I know 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: at some point he went to the couch last night. 90 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: But when I woke up, when I got up to 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: get him up because he wasn't hearing his alarm, he 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: was back in the bed, So I don't know what happened. 93 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: They must have made up. But then he's got to 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: commute an hour and a half to Manhattan do that 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: work all day. He leaves at five thirty because he's 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: been doing like this overtime because you know whatever, things 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: are crazy, and then he'll get home six thirty seven, 98 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: and then I'm like, hey, can you do you know? 99 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: Can you do this? 100 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Da da dad? 101 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: You know? And then he handles bedtime for Rio and 102 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: maybe we talk to each other. We're like see yeah 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: at like nine o'clock, back to school time, back to 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: work time. For him, it's been really hard, like on 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: a relationship. I'm just looking at him sometimes and I'm like, you, like, 106 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: we married each other, you like you like me? Right? 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: You like think about me? He's like, but we're both 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: just in it, like you're just you know, and I 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: think so, I yeah, I just want to acknowledge that 110 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: he has got a really, really tough day and having 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: help is essential, you know, and having his parents finally, 112 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: but providing childcare, you know, has definitely helped. But yeah, 113 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: we're I. 114 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Just did myself. The women like single moms, oh my god, 115 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: Like what does that even mean? What does it mean? 116 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: How does it mean? 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Well? And if you like just not having to do 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: it alone, you know, it takes it really does. Find 119 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: your village, make your village. Yeah, these day and age, 120 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: you got to. I had to make my village. I 121 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: don't have a bunch of family near here, so that 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: has my neighbors. Like I've mentioned my neighbors before, but 123 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: Auntie Lynn down the street has come many a morning 124 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: to come watch the baby for me so I can take, 125 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: you know, my eldest to daycare, just because you know, 126 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't get lucky with him being awake, 127 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: he was zonked out. I didn't make come up, you know. 128 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: So my neighbors, family, friends, et cetera. There's just so much. 129 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: It's like you're talking about just the physical components, you know, 130 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and we've of course you talked about the financial components, 131 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: but there's like the emotional component. So I always feel 132 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: so bad, like when I do something and I leave 133 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: the kids in a worse state than how my sister 134 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: found them, and I'm like, okay, by, So I'll give 135 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: you an example. I went to like this toy store 136 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: and like the kids. You know, every kid goes through 137 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: your dinosaur phase where they love dinosaurs. So I was 138 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: at the toy store and they had this big like 139 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: t rex. It was like as tall as me, and 140 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, like making all the noises 141 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. So I had my friend with me and 142 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: I told her, oh, record me walking up to it 143 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: and petting it. So I said it to my sister 144 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: so she could show the kids, like look at Auntie 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: edto taming the t rex. This is q it goes well. 146 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: So I can tell that Amelia Mimi, she is six, 147 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: must have my sister's phone. So I sent the video 148 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: and she she sent me a voice note because these 149 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: kids don't do everything. She calls me Auntie Otto because 150 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: my African name is Adoci. Auntie Otto, where are you? 151 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: What is that? And I was like, it's a dinosaur. 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: But not a real one, because she knows extinct and 153 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: live and everything. I said, what kind of dinosaur do 154 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: you think it is? She wrote back, t rex. That 155 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: sounded great. I'm like, yeah, Auntieodo did a cool thing. 156 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm out here petting t rexes. Call my sisters just 157 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: for a chit chat. I had noise in the background. 158 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: A million and her are going back and forth because 159 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to eat dinner, you know, like because 160 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: just why yeah, yes, and so I say, put me 161 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: on speaker. Why did I do this? I said, Mimi, 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: you know how you want to go see t Rex? 163 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: You know the only kids who eat dinner can go 164 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: see t Rex. Why did I say that? Mandy the 165 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: howl that that girl released, I mean, oh, all her is? 166 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean, because she really didn't want to eat. 167 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: And then she and then but she did want to 168 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: see t Rex. So she was so upset. 169 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: I was like, so now, because she knows it's impossible, 170 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: she's never gonna eat, which means she's never gonna see 171 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: the t rex, which means her world is destroyed. I 172 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: why she being punished for not eating? I guess a 173 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: good auntie to motivate her to eat. 174 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: Karen was like, meanwhile, though you could tell seasoned mama 175 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: versus like a because you know, a new bee. It's like, 176 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, what have you done? 177 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: Here? 178 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: Go care a girl? 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm so sorry. 180 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to come by? She's a girl, should 181 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: be all right anyway. So it's like, but there's a 182 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: lot of noise in the background. She's like, that's my 183 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: dramatic child. 184 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 185 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: You know, but I just I felt so terrible, and 186 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, how do y'all manage it? Damn? Damn? 187 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, the temper tantrums that are they happy? Are 188 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: they sad? Do they have friends at school? You know, like, 189 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: are they adjusted? Did they sleep well? Are they the 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: level of worry that comes with like having this little 191 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: person that you need to take care of. Shot you know, 192 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, no, for for real, it's just show up today. 193 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: Does that mean? You know, it's just be real, let's 194 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: be having one hundred Because that thought passes my mind 195 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: every day and I have to do my whole exercise like, oh, 196 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: it's a thought, it can't hurt me. It's a leaf 197 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: floating down a stream. Just go to Dunkin Donuts and 198 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: pretend that that thought didn't just like that's what they're 199 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: you know, So yeah, it's fucking hard. Actually, you know what, 200 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: I even go take a nap now that you've maybe 201 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: said I did it again, just like I'm sorry. I 202 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: don't want to nip slip on the on the podcast. 203 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm almost sadden. 204 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: If you got to go to the video, you could 205 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: have caught that. 206 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm just joking, did I It's not cute when they're 207 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: all gorged and you don't want to know what it 208 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: looks like after you pump. 209 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: It's not cute. But I just think that, like sometimes 210 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: when people talk about kids, they only it's not only 211 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: so much of it just surrounds like how much would 212 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: have cost me, which obviously a lot, but there are 213 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: other things to consider, you know, Like I think about that, like, 214 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, as I've been dipping my baby tow into dating, 215 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm going to be forty four, and 216 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: so that means the men in my range, the likelihood is, 217 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: I would say eighty to ninety percent of them are 218 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: going to have kids of different varying ages. And that's 219 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: what I found, which that doesn't bother me, because girl, 220 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: I'm about to be forty four, like even though you 221 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: have to Superman exactly, but also too like a lot 222 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: of them their kids are like in their twenties or 223 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, like ten left and twelve or above. So 224 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I've just been kind of asking mysel so how young 225 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: is too young? Like there's definitely been people who are like, Okay, 226 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: I've got like a two or three year old, and 227 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that seems pretty fresh, and also too, 228 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: I just know how much energy you need to expend 229 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: for that, and not that I'm like, well I want 230 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: attention because it's not even that serious. It's really more 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: so like honestly, your focus needs to be there. So 232 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: I've just been navigating like what, you know, like what 233 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: how young? So I'll give you the dep of this 234 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: guy who's kind of like interested. Hopefully he doesn't listen. 235 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: Hey he's got like he did used the surrogate to 236 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: have a baby. 237 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: And checking the pump. Sorry, that's right, he used. 238 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: The surrogate to have a baby. And so his baby's 239 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: really young, like you know, but intentionally so, but also 240 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: very well off, has a nanny, you know. So then 241 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, then it's different, is it? So you 242 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So these are kind of things 243 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: that have just kind of come up where it's not 244 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: just the financial component. There's also this emotional opponent because 245 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: if you have a chilli old that's really really young, 246 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: I've just been thinking like, well, I don't want to 247 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: take take away, you know. The preschool teacher in me 248 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: is like, I want you to focus on the baby, 249 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: and I have to worry about like me and like 250 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: what I, you know, would like to do. And I'm like, 251 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: if the baby's gonna need you, the baby has a cold, 252 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: the baby has pink, I do that, you know. So 253 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: that's that's just has come. 254 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: Up a lot. Foolish to not know that, not foolish, 255 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: but naive to not think of that. And I know 256 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: people give this show a lot of shit, as they 257 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: should because some of it is so just bad. But 258 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: I still watch It's the Sex and the City sequel 259 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: on HBO. I know, did you ever watch the original? 260 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: You're like not very into TV? I did. 261 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: I did watch the original, not not all the episodes, 262 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, because I didn't have HBO who had money? 263 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: But right, yeah, so I use my sister as max account, 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: you know, because we all share and yeah, so her 265 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: and Aiden the main character Carrie and her just for 266 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: if you don't watch the show, because it was Hella 267 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 2: Hella White for you know, and it has tried to 268 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: change and some hilarious ways hilariously bad. Anyway, she gets 269 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: back with her former flame who and they're both in 270 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: their sixties or fifties now and he has like teenage 271 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: children and spoiler alert, spoiler alert if you have not 272 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: watched the season finale, just mute the next thirty seconds 273 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: he ends up. They end up breaking up, like and 274 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: basically like he's like, give me five years. I need 275 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: to be with my teenagers because his teenager like went 276 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: and crashed a car and you know, really needed him now. 277 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: And there was a really bad scene when Aidan was 278 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: crying in the car. It just was not really well acted. 279 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: But anyway, and so they end up breaking up and 280 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: he's like, just give me five years. I'll see you 281 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: in five years. It was so weird, but just to 282 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: your point, like that was, you know, that's a real 283 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: thing when you're there's real life, if they're caretaking for, 284 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, a parent, you know, even. 285 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: It's just funny you say that. I'm like turn ten 286 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: in my noser, but I'm like, actually, someone actually did 287 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: say that to me. They live out of state, and 288 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, I won't be really free to 289 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: move back to jury for five years, so not like, hey, 290 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: wait for me for five years, Like we we can date, 291 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: but it's gonna look like long distance basically, well relatively 292 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: speak because they're not that far away. It's a few hours, 293 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: but still you know that's a consideration. But I'm like 294 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: child who was living with me anyway, So I'm like, 295 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: so I'm like, yeah, you're like great, but these are 296 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: things that come up with I'm like, oh yeah, just 297 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: a dating as like an adult adult adult. Not that 298 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't dating as an adult before, but it's just 299 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: so different now because I found that like a lot 300 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: of guys are actually finding like guess in their forties. 301 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: They're like, I wanna I wanna settle down. I'm like, oh, 302 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: were you at twenty five, twenty where were you at 303 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: thirty two? The very own serious not everybody want to 304 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: get serious. And now that I'm like I'm actually like 305 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: just kind of like light, they're like, I don't want 306 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: to hear about that. 307 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: Raz yeah, it's crazy, like so that others could run. 308 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to date light. Everybody was like, partner up 309 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: and then get married. 310 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, where they were just biding their time 311 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: until you know, older single women came on the market 312 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: for whatever reason and did I want commitment or weren't 313 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: looking for like something serious. 314 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: But I feel like as soon as you want commitment, 315 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: they don't want commitment. But when you're like, I'm actually good, 316 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: They're like, but wait, I would like to I would 317 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: like some some commitment, please, more commitment, please? 318 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: Oh goodness. Well, I love that we're in such different, 319 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, unique places in our like in our lives. 320 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: I could not be more what's the word that Bell 321 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: uses in the intro of Beauty and the Beast provincial. 322 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, I am. I am so many women's like 323 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: nightmare just like kids and pumping on the podcast and 324 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. I'm here to tell you 325 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: it's great. I have so much fun. I love my life. 326 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: But at the same time as not, I'll just love 327 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: that you're in a different place in your life. And 328 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: since you brought up dating, let's get it. And I 329 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: feel like I deserve a treat because I just coump 330 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: five ounces, Bay Bay, this is too bottle. 331 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: You know what that means. 332 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: So give me a treat. How's your dating live, what's happening, 333 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: what's the latest? 334 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe act like I don't be talking her behind 335 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: the scenes. She was like, how hasn't had. 336 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: An update in a while. We always have to like 337 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: end the phone call because I'm like, save it for 338 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: the podcast. 339 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: Waw I I mean I started dating a little not 340 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: too long ago, you know, like at first I started 341 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: off on the apps and I was like, I told 342 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, I told you all. I did a Black 343 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: People Meet, which I was like, all your uncles is 344 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: on there, follow them, and your daddy's talking about Hagar Hagarl, 345 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Hey Hagarl, Like it's really bad, Like, well, I'll say 346 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: this Black people Meet, you know, like it's if you 347 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: want volume, go ahead all the way. I mean, the 348 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: volume is unmatched. I mean they're literally hundreds of message 349 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. And then you know, 350 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm cute, but girl, it's if you want volume and 351 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: you need yourself esteem to be boosted up, just like 352 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: the But it's the men there, it's most of them. 353 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: It's just weird because one they don't know to take pictures. 354 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, sir, why do you have a picture of 355 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: with a mask on our masks? Sir? Who are you 356 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: protecting yourself against? I'm like so many COVID pictures. I'm like, 357 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: let's see your face, Jesus, I have the. 358 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: Grossest sick cough right now that I want to laugh 359 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: so hard. 360 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, there's been a handful of people. There 361 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: was one guy, I'll tell you for example. He seemed normal. 362 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: He actually was good looking. He was in his fifties, 363 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: which is typically a little older than But I was like, 364 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like my range because I'm going to 365 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: be forty four, my range is like thirty eight at 366 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: the youngest, because thirty eight is like really young to me, 367 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: but depends up until maybe like fifty five fifty six. 368 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't mind. I prefer older than younger for me 369 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: in the stage I am now, whereas before I felt 370 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: like I preferred like younger, closer. 371 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: To my age. Not quite still I got her group back. 372 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm just honestly, because I feel like I'm 373 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: not I'm in thirty eight is really pushing it. You'd 374 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: have to be somebody special. I prefer, quite honestly, like 375 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: the youngest really ideally forty and me being forty three now, 376 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, but like I could go to fifty fifty five, 377 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: fifty six, I much rather pushed upwards. So anyway, so 378 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: there's one guy, let's call him Bob. So Bob seemed great. 379 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: He used to play pro football. I was like, okay, 380 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: and you could tell he's great physique although he's in 381 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: his fifty still really great. Shame dad of an older child. 382 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: He's a teacher. I'm jad like, one child is off 383 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: to college, one child is like middle schoolish ages, you know, 384 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: seems like a great dad. Blah blah blah. We had 385 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: one conversation that was like mind blowing, such a great, awesome, 386 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: like really just like you know, like super smart. I mean, 387 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: like all the things you could talk about. I was like, wow, 388 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I remember literally at one point I looked at the phone. 389 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: I said, wow, yeah, spoke too soon. So I go 390 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: away on my trip. Bob is texting like, oh, I 391 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: hope you're saved d you know, like and then his 392 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: text get progressively for lack of a bread word, fresher, 393 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: Oh no. It started off with me being like, oh, 394 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, like what are you guys doing today? Like, Oh, 395 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna go and make chocolate at them. You know, 396 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: we're taking like a chocolate making class. I hope you 397 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: say some chocolate for me. 398 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: And I'm like, hmmm, I. 399 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: See where he's headed. But I was like, okay, I 400 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: let that slide, and then it just got progressively fresher 401 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: and fresher and fresher where he just basically like outright 402 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: asked for some and I was like, wow, sir, I've 403 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: literally never mentioned, huh. 404 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: Some like picks or like girl and he knows you're 405 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: in a different country. 406 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I'm talking about like, I'm like, literally 407 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: I want some. That was text, not picks, girl sex. 408 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: I just was like and I literally said somewhat and 409 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: he said, oops, maybe too soon. Then I just stopped responding. 410 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I know. 411 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: I just was like, we're having him on the website 412 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: that shall not being named, or where'd y'all meet? 413 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, that was black people meet, and so 414 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, one, normal one. 415 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: I show a lot of horny old men. 416 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what I was giving. And I 417 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: was just like, but what really shocked me is that 418 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: the phone conversation was clearly that he was smart, passionate 419 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: about like he's a coach, you know, a teacher. I 420 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, like you know, like this 421 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: is so the conversation was so great, there was nothing, 422 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: there was no I'm and here's the thing, I don't 423 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: mind being flirtatious, but I'm like, sir, i've never met you, 424 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: I've never laid eyes on you. We're not I'm not. 425 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: So I initially just ignored him, and my friend Linda 426 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you should at least set the boundary 427 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: just so he knows moving forward. And I just messaged 428 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: him and it was like, hey, you know, although I 429 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: enjoyed flirting, I'm just not into overtly sexual conversation with 430 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: somebody who I do not now you know. 431 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: Okay. He was like say like, oh no, go ahead 432 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: and go ahead no. 433 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: And he was like, okay, might have a good life. 434 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: Basically he's embarrassed. No, but girl, I was like, moving 435 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: on because you're way. 436 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: Too mature for him. He thought you were just gonna 437 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: let him have an easy out. 438 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: Girl as his big girl in age at fifty five. 439 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: And I was just like, well, I mean there's been 440 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: like you know, I mean not that a ton of 441 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: people slide on my dms but certainly there are people 442 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: who I knew before who I did not know held interest, 443 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: you know. 444 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: And so I'm just like, I catch, I'm you're talking 445 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: about your rich auntie life. But that's also too, that's 446 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: something like like my sisters worry about that, Like I don't. 447 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: I want. Of course, all your friends went to with 448 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: somebody rich, and I'm just like, that's not a prerequisite 449 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: for me, you know, Like no, My my rule has 450 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: always been from when I was preschool teacher Tiffany to now, 451 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: is that you should be able to financially take care 452 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: of yourself and your responsibilities. However that looked. If you 453 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: could do that on fifty thousand, okay, if you need 454 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand, okay, that's your business. Like you should 455 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: be able to say, hey, this is my life, and 456 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: I could take care of my responsibilities and you live 457 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: within the means of what your responsibilities can provide. That's 458 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: my only rule. I don't have like a number of 459 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: what somebody can make, you know, because I don't need 460 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: anyone to take care of mine. And if ever I 461 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: decide to partner again, if you got yours and I 462 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: got mine, then together life is easier, you know, that's 463 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: like my. 464 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: Rule of a project. Yeah, I do to fix anyone, 465 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: are you No? 466 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I just think like someone can come complete. I want 467 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: somebody who's really good at communicating. There's somebody I like 468 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: more than everybody else. He's really good at communicating. We 469 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: practice something called radical transparency, which is if it comes up, 470 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: it comes out. There's nothing that we can't talk about, 471 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: which I really like. But I'm not ready for partnership now, 472 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: you know. And it seems like that's the direction he's 473 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: kind of like leaning into. He listens to the podcast. 474 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, hey, when I tell my husband 475 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: that he's thinks he's to put on deodorant, he doesn't 476 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: view that as radical candor, but I do. I'm like, 477 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: he's like, you're mean, I'm radically candid. But when you 478 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: hand me the baby and the baby smells like pits all, 479 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna need sorry, that's a that's a married ladies like. 480 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: No, but I used to love that because honestly, like 481 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: Girall was like that. He'd be like, is that true now? 482 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: But you know that's married live. That's a level of 483 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, and then you want that like you should 484 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: be able to but like I like this radical transparency 485 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: because I can share I'm not ready for this, or 486 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm afraid or I'm scared, or I still very much 487 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: love Darrell and I'm never gonna love you though I 488 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: can say those things, you know, where I'm just like 489 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not ready for partnership because quite honestly, 490 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this love I 491 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: have for Jirelle, you know, like I don't know where 492 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: to safely put it so I can be open to 493 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: like something else. So I'm not open as a results fully, 494 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: you know, like certainly companionship and things are nice, but 495 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm just like I don't want to I don't want 496 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: to release this, like and I know there's a healthy 497 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: way actually have therapy tomorrow. I know there's there has 498 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: to be a healthy way. Like It's almost like when 499 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: I bought the condo, I did not step foot in 500 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: that kindo for two months because the thought of leaving 501 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: this home that I built with Jerel was too much. 502 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: And so it wasn't until I had to like in 503 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: my mind place this house in the safe space, like 504 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: this is always going to be your house, this is 505 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: the family house. This house is not going anywhere. This 506 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: condo is not your home home. This is another home, 507 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, you know, because one day I 508 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: want to live in a penthouse. One day I want 509 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: to buy like some land. So this is one This 510 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: is I rationalize in my head. The condo is not 511 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: a replacement for home. It is part of a series 512 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: of different types of living environments that you're going to 513 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: live in. And so as a result, once I kind 514 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: of was able to absorb that, like this is not 515 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: replacing house, then I was able to go there, you know, 516 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: after almost three months of buying it and saying, okay, 517 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: I could see myself being here because one day I'll 518 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: be someplace else. But I have not figured out how 519 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: to do that with my love with Jarell. You know, 520 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: I haven't figured that out, Like what do I you know, 521 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's what therapy is for, because right now he 522 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: still occupies all of the space for like romantic love, 523 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, or most of it, And so to allow 524 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: somebody else in in that way, at least in a 525 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: way that's like really hardcore, like a partner or whatever, 526 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: or potentially even a husband. One day it's like, well 527 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: what do I do? Am I pushing out this love 528 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: and I know that's not true, but your heart doesn't 529 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: tell you that, so I haven't figured that out. So 530 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: as a result, I don't want a partner, certainly like 531 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: today it's a companionship. But I don't want a partner 532 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: until I can safely keep this love and create the 533 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: most beautiful box for it and to safely keep it. 534 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: So until I feel that that, I'm not ready, you 535 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: know for that. Although it's so crazy because like all 536 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: these the men who are not you know, trying to 537 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: have sex on the first date, are wanting partnership, you know, 538 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, eh, I mean they all know 539 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm always candid about with them about like my husband 540 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: passed away two years ago. But yeah, they're all wanting partnership. 541 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: But I'm just like, maybe one day, but as it 542 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: is right now, I'm just not ready to move into 543 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: the condo yet, you know. 544 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think it's also important to 545 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: have that radical transparency with yourself so you know how 546 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: you feel going into it. It's gonna make your whole 547 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: dating I feel like journey or whatever that looks like 548 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: for you a lot less painful. Yeah, because you're not 549 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: like setting yourself up to attract these guys who are 550 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: like looking to get wiped up. 551 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: Where I am I stracking them? 552 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: And you deserve to just have some fun. What's the fun. 553 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: Have you been on a fun date? 554 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 555 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: Let me see, let me she give some hope. 556 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: Well, just this weekend, I mean to me, I love 557 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: like experiential. I mean like I'm not really I mean 558 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: certainly dinners and things like that. That's cool, but like, well, 559 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: also well this weekend the date we went to the shore, 560 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: which is really nice. 561 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: Like the minutes you canceled on our anniversary, I knew 562 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: a man without I knew, I said, I bet she 563 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: has because she hasn't seen sneak, not a sneak healing. 564 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: In a minute, I'm gonna get shafted. I wish you 565 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: had given me the chance to like give me you know, 566 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: I would have said, yes. 567 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: I went in the shore, which is about forty five 568 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: been a drive from where I live, and there's a 569 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: restaurant there that's like one of my favorites. It's like 570 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: so delicious and great. And then like we bought a 571 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: blanket because it was too chilly for the water but 572 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: warm enough to like lay on the beach, So just 573 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: sat on the beach to listen to music, talking which 574 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: is so great, for like an hour or so, and 575 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: then we walked around and then down the shore. There's 576 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: one of my favorite ice cream places called Day. If 577 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: you're ever in like the Asbury Park, Neptune, whatever area, 578 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: Ocean Grove, there's this ice cream place, this family owned 579 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: and operated ice cream place called Days, like Days of 580 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: the Week. The best ice cream I have ever had 581 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: in my life. So we walked around, got that ice cream. 582 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: He'd never had it before. We were just like, but 583 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: the shore is because where I live, you know, I 584 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: live in the city, which is like high strung and 585 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: hyper and the shore as soon as we hit it, 586 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: it was so calm. The energy it was like it 587 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: went from hyperactive to like literally zero. So it was 588 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: just like such a that was such a nice immersive date, 589 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, like going to the shore, sitting on the beach, 590 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: eating at a really the restaurant was, you know, not 591 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: some super fancy restaurant, but just this cute, beechy kind 592 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: of restaurant, having ice cream. Literally just walking the neighborhood. 593 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: We went to like an antique shop and like like, look, 594 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking for stuff for the condo. So that was 595 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: really nice. I'll tell you my very first date that 596 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: I had after Drill passed away was with this guy 597 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: and he was really nice, but I was so nervous 598 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just nervous. I also was really anxious 599 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: about being out. But we went bowling, which was cool. 600 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember this one right. And then afterwards, 601 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna date anyone in Newark. 602 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like I wanted to come, which is 603 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: crazy because we were on the train and so this 604 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: guy who I was dating, who I went on a 605 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: date with, you know, he didn't know. I told him 606 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: my name is Tiffany, I'm a teacher. You know. He 607 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: didn't know anything else. And so but we were on 608 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the train and I saw a woman and I know 609 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: the look of budgeties as you and I looked at her. 610 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: So she looked at me like, you know, with the 611 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: initial excitement like I about to say something, and then 612 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: she looked at him standing next to me. But she 613 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: gave me to look like, oh wait, okay, okay, girl, 614 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: I love Yeah she did. I tell you the dates 615 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: that have been on that has happened multiple times and 616 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: I love black women are top tier. Okay, because one 617 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: time it was out walking with like this guy that 618 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm like currently like this gues's going out with more 619 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: regularly now, and this girl was like, oh my god, 620 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: oh girl, my bad, you're doing something. By when I 621 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: tell you, she was like, look me my business. She 622 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: literally said, you doing so I'll never forget that because 623 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: the way she looked me was like, oh so, but yeah, So, 624 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's been interesting. I mean so far, Like 625 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, the people I've met, I've been pretty nice. 626 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: But like I said, I child, I don't know. I'm 627 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: just I figure out my life. No, you know, but 628 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: we're here for such a short period of time. I 629 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: remind myself this all the time, that, like, especially whenever 630 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: I go to visit Darrell's gravesite. He is in a 631 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: historic cemetery and there are literally tombstones I say, seventeen whatever, 632 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: like eighteen, you know, And so I think to myself 633 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: all the time that these like people have stood here 634 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: hundreds of years before me, experiencing the same emotions I'm experiencing, 635 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: and that although life seems long, it's really just like 636 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: a flash in the bucket and the entirety. Like nothing 637 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: taught me that more than going to Egypt thousands of 638 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: years ago someone touched the same pyramid that I'm touching, 639 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: and that as big as my life feels like to me, 640 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: it is a flash in the bucket. It goes by 641 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: so quickly. So I can live my life aligned with 642 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: what everybody wants me to do, or date this rich person, 643 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: or I can just try and say, like, girl, I 644 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just a dagon day. I'm not gonna 645 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: be on my deathbed. Why did I go out with Jimbo? 646 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Like nobody cares. 647 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: I just love you and your advice and your mixed cliches. 648 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: The flashing the bucket, what is it, flo I have 649 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: become drop in the bucket. When I tell you, I 650 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: have become my dad, he is a king. 651 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know. I almost was like I 652 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: give for it, but I'm glad. 653 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: I will always Oh my god, Rodney j why are 654 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: you coming out of my mouth? Like yo? He loved 655 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: to be like, oh my gosh. 656 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: The flash in the bucket. 657 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense. But I'm honestly just navigating. 658 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: That's it. 659 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to put one foot in front of 660 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: the other and like and be honest, that's my big thing. 661 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: As long as I'm honest. Adults can choose what they 662 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: want to do, you know, And. 663 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: So older I get, the more I'm just like Buddhism 664 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: is just like, I'm gonna study it more because a 665 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: lot of these principles, like the cycle, the bigger than anything, 666 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: like all these teachings is a whole part of it. 667 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: But I agree, and it helps. It's it's that perspective. 668 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: I think we all need that reminder on a daily 669 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: the big things are not that big. Yeah, you know. 670 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great book. Don't swam, don't sweat the 671 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: small stuff. It's a really great book. 672 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: What's your dad's name? Well, RONDI Jr? 673 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: Take a break? 674 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: Can we right back with our boothster breaks? Ye? 675 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Yes, and we're black and back and brown. It's time 676 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: wait right, wait wait wait wait boost a break? Okay, 677 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: it's time to boost up, break up, boost up, break up, 678 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: boost up, break up? Boost Are you gonna boost? Are 679 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: you gonna break? What you're gonna do? What you're gonna do? 680 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: You want to go for a second, what do you 681 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: want to do? Mane? 682 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I just switched my break I just chose to 683 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: break something because that just clicked to me what I 684 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: was thinking about earlier. And I'm gonna need a minute. 685 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: I can Okay, I'll go first. 686 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: You say you want to go first, Yeah, I can 687 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: go first. Okay, I was up to you. 688 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay. I want to take a break from ozempic. 689 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: Have you heard about oh oh oh oh? It went 690 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: from being the commercial that always came on when I 691 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: was watching CBS, I call it the Gael Show in 692 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: the morning, to like this epic drug. You guys have 693 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: heard of ozempic. You probably know about it, but little 694 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: did I know. A couple of years ago, my doctor 695 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: tried to prescribe or did prescribe me ozempic. Really yeah, 696 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: because I was struggling, I think, like a lot of 697 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: new moms, to like lose the weight, and some of 698 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: my some of my levels were not great and like 699 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 2: my labs or whatever, like they weren't bad, but they 700 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: were just starting to, like, you know, change for the 701 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: first time. And I was like, okay, really got you know, 702 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: I want to lose some more weight and anyway, so yeah, 703 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: and I had gone to an endochronologist to get my 704 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: hormones checked and the endocrinologists who like prescribed me ozempic. 705 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: And it was this shot that I put in my 706 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: stomach and I tried it. I think I had like 707 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: a six week supply and she was very excited because 708 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: my insurance covered it because it was newer and not 709 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: a lot of insurances, did I guess at the time anyway, 710 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: So this was a couple a couple of years ago, 711 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: maybe three years ago, two or three tried it. I 712 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 2: really hated it, like made mad, It made me nauseous, 713 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: and I hated the act of like shooting myself in 714 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: the stomach. I read that, And then now cut to 715 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: a couple few years later, and people are losing their 716 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 2: minds over this weight loss drug. And if you haven't yet, 717 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: there's a really great episode of the New York Times 718 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: podcast The Daily about ozempic and it really just like 719 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: lays the foundation for how did we get here where 720 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: it's become this viral you know drug and every and 721 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: I should have known we reached a tipping point because 722 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: when my mom visited like a few I don't know, 723 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: like early last year or whatever, she was like, is 724 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: that ozempic in your fridge? Because that's where I stored 725 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: it you're supposed to store in the fridge. She's like, 726 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: can I have some? And I'm like, mom, should we 727 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: be sharing needles like this? 728 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: Like this? 729 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: You know, it was just weird and I can see 730 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: the hunger in people's eyes, like, oh, this is a 731 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: miracle pill and this is miracle drug. Whatever, It's not 732 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: a pill, it's a shot. But I was listening and 733 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: the more I was listening to this episode, I was like, 734 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,959 Speaker 2: I'm really glad that I did not choose that path 735 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: for myself, because what's really frustrating to me is I 736 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: feel like I have just arrived at this base in 737 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: my life where I feel healthy in the body that 738 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: I have now, which is larger and looks different than 739 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: I did, you know, five, six, ten years ago. But 740 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: I feel and am healthy and I am happy, and 741 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm part of this new I feel like 742 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: for millennial old old elder millennials, this new wave where 743 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: it's about really loving ourselves the way that we are 744 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: and looking for health, looking for you know, healthfulness and 745 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: that's not attached to a number on the scale and 746 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: having a good mentality around that as long as you 747 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: feel good and you're healthy and things are fine, just 748 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: at the time when I feel like this freaking drug 749 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 2: has landed like a nuclear bomb into all of this 750 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I feel like a lot 751 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: of people are, you know, shifting and like, oh, but 752 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: this this is gonna be the thing. It's like another 753 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: It's another miracle diet. It's another beach body, It's another 754 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: like Atkins. It's another fucking key Sorry Keto, but for real, 755 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: f Keto. You know these diet things, it's this other 756 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: thing that people are going to try. Are you really 757 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: gonna put a shot in your stomach for the rest 758 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: of your life? Like, because if you stop doing that, 759 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: it stops working. Yes, you know. I heard. If you 760 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: stop shooting yourself in the stomach with this you know medicine, 761 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: it will stop working. And so the same reasons why 762 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 2: you struggled before are still going to be there. So 763 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: I feel like it's just not like a long term solution. 764 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: And I just and I had to know myself because 765 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: I started to even wonder, I bet I can get 766 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: back in touch with that end chronologists and see if 767 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: she could hook me up with more hook me up 768 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: like as a like it's fentanyl. No, but like you know, 769 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 2: get some more and try it again after my after 770 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: I just had my my new baby, because I genuinely 771 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: do have some weight loss goals with this one. But 772 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to 773 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: go down that path for my own self because I 774 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: have been on every like up and down of weight 775 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: like many women in this country are, and I just 776 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: know the answers are probably for me not gonna lie 777 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 2: in you know another uh yeah, another drug or another diet, 778 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: another plan like that. And yeah, it just makes me 779 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: sad because I feel like I'm there is so much. 780 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: Especially at that Beyonce concert, I just felt so like 781 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: Seene and their dancers. I still think about that one 782 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: dancer with the crop short blonde hair and like with 783 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: all that body, and I was like, her body looks 784 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: like my body, and it's and you know, just and 785 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: we're getting to this place and it feels like this 786 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 2: drug and all the conversations around it are just bringing 787 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: us back too and like you know, not having like 788 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: feeling like feeling like we need to do something to 789 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: change ourselves. So that's my that's my break this week. 790 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: No, it's I didn't know that it was an injectable 791 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: and I had heard that you have to keep taking it, 792 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: Like I wonder, like what how has like the market 793 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: share that you know, like what's the financial ramifications of 794 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: like this this drug? I'm sure like that. Do you 795 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: know who makes it? 796 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 2: Like Procter and Gamba's No, what's it called Novo disc 797 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: or No, it's one of those. It's a big pharmaceutical. 798 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: It's like called Novo. 799 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: I wonder how like if they if they are privately owned, 800 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: which I'm sure like and what they're to have their 801 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: stock prices rose as a result. This is the type 802 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: of thing quite honestly, this whole thing around like ozampic 803 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: and things like that. Like if you are in the market, 804 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: these are the types of things that you listen for 805 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: and you know, you're like, huh, this is something that 806 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: this is how people kind of choose like where they 807 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: might invest in, where they might place their money, you know, 808 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: depending on like you know, because not everybody wants to 809 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: invest in something like this, but I'm just putting that 810 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: out there. It's like a financial spend. But yeah, and 811 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: then to for you to have to use it forever 812 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: and ever, and that's that's a lot, Like I mean, 813 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: as someone who was like, h you know, I you know, 814 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: I'd been pretty much skinny my whole life until I 815 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: was in and I put on like, you know, a 816 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: decent amout like thirty pounds or so. 817 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: And person skinning is another person's like or one person's 818 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm not skinny anymore is another person's like gold, you 819 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Because there's no version of you 820 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: that I've ever known where you haven't looked fucking amazing. 821 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 2: And I've been like, dang, I wish I could be 822 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: that size, you know what I mean, Like it's just 823 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: crazy what we do to ourselves. But I was with ourselves. 824 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: I just you know, I just felt uncomfortable, you know, 825 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: like with the way like it was feeling and sitting 826 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, and so like now that I'm down to like, 827 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: I guess what I would call like why regular normal weight? Like, 828 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: so just for transparency, because I'm not hung up on numbers. 829 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: So I'm five seven and then my peak it was 830 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: a little over. 831 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: Two hundred times I am triggered by numbers. Okay, so 832 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 2: I will not share your numbers. 833 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, I won't Okay, I'm silent. 834 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: But now it's okay, I'm really I have got a 835 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: lot of like I've been like traumatized by this whole 836 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: my whole life. Yeah, numbers triggered. 837 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: Okay, we know, Okay, good to know. So anyway, I 838 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: just lost a good amount of weight and I feel like, 839 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: for the most part, good about where I am now. 840 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, y'all know, I've been walking. 841 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: I just lately I've been considering going back to weight 842 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: training a little bit because I find that I yo, yo, 843 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: because walking is not no you know, you have to 844 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: like muscles underneath have to basically keep you where you are, 845 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, and so like. But the walking has been great. 846 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: You know, I've been doing that for like the last 847 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: two years, and it has mostly honestly been about mental 848 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: health to walking. And I was almost kind of like 849 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: the health component. I was like, oh, because I never 850 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: thought it was not my intention to lose weight with walking, 851 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: because who thinks you could lose weight where I did 852 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: not know that, you know. It was really just like 853 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: I need to walk because I cannot sit in this house. 854 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: Like I started walking after Jiroll passed away, just because 855 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: I had to. I was looking for peace, and I 856 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: was like, it's nature it's sunshine, it's outside, I get 857 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: to talk to a friend or maybe listen to a podcast, 858 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: and inadvertently I started to like lose some weight, and 859 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: I just said, okay, And even now when I walk, 860 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: it's really not for that. I'm just like, I still 861 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: walk my one to two hours when it's not raining 862 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: like today, because it brings so much peace to me. 863 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: And it's nice to know that. Because I had a 864 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: personal trainer for a brief moment, he was like, typically, 865 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: it's so good for your heart, you know, Like are 866 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: you gonna become ripped from walking? No, but he was 867 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: like your overall health, like it tremendously increases your overall health. 868 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 1: Like now I'm into like I'm such an old lady. 869 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: I just went to this place in Montclair called Fleet Feet. 870 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: This is like where like if you're like a runner 871 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: or a marathon or whatever, people go to get fit 872 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: for like for sneakers, like and so not that they're 873 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: not specialty sneakers, but they are really knowledgeable about depending 874 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: on what type of sport you do, which sneaker you 875 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: should get. So I like to go and so I 876 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: got my if you were to see my walking sneakers 877 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: You're like, you are now the thickest. So I don't 878 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: care because I have plants as fasciitis, which is just 879 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: flat feet. 880 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: So he's admitting for not admitting not but sharing not 881 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 2: because I feel like all these some a lot of 882 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: these like health concerns don't just affect overweight or you 883 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: know technically like heavy people. Yeah, regular people have these 884 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 2: types of things. 885 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I know I've been had flat feet girl 886 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: African place, it was flat first. I have flat feet 887 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: my well, because we never I never wore shoes like 888 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: I just like my dad has the flattest. Literally, when 889 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: I went to the foot doctor, he was like, oh 890 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: my god, you got pancakes. I was like, I feel 891 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: like you're not supposed to stick. 892 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: I have no art. 893 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: But as a result of that, that's what happened. I 894 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: have a hard time with heels because you know that 895 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 1: arch and then but like it was to the point 896 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: where I could not walk around the house without limping. 897 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: My foot hurts so much, and so I went to 898 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: the foot doctor. He said, you have plants or fasciitis 899 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: aka flat feet. He gave me the these insoles for 900 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: my shoes, which were so uncomfortable. I refuse. I started 901 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: wearing crocs. I got like house crocs because crocs have like, 902 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, like they have an arch built in. Plus 903 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: the phone feels so great. I started wearing Birkenstocks. I'm 904 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: so glad they were in style because Birkenstocks are actually 905 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: orthopedic shoes, Like the guy who made them was an 906 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: orthopedic like doctor. And so I love my birken socks. 907 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: And then I realized that if I'm going to do 908 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: all this walking now, I go and get like, like 909 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: they just I have a pair of New Balance and 910 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: a pair of A six, but they're specifically for like 911 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 1: the foam and the cushion and the walking. So I'm 912 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: just like, I'm such an old lady now, because you. 913 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 2: Know, like if they're smart about your feet. 914 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: They're not fashion. I'll just say that, like this is 915 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: just for if you catch me in the street and 916 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: you're like, what are those there? Mind your business? 917 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 2: Well, I've just gotten to a place where I to 918 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: give you a sense of my journey. For me to 919 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 2: take a walk just for the pure love of it, 920 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 2: which is what I've arrived at now, has taken so 921 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: long for me to take a walk and not think 922 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: I have to take this walk because I had a 923 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 2: sandwich for lunch, or I should take this walk because 924 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 2: I am gonna eat later, or I need to start 925 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: losing weight, like to make it like to have just 926 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 2: move your body for the joy of it, you know, 927 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 2: and for the way it makes you feel. That's where 928 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm finally at. And I'm just kidding. 929 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: I love that here, Yes, I love that, And it's not. 930 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 2: Easy for a lot of people, like the mental That's 931 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 2: the thing with the way that Ozempeic works. I really 932 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 2: encourage you to listen to that episode because it'll teach 933 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: you a lot about how it works. It actually blocks 934 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 2: in your brain the uh it makes you stay shaded 935 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 2: for longer, but it also breaks it also like stops 936 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 2: your brain from thinking about food in some way, like 937 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 2: thinking about eating and what you're gonna make and like 938 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: in advance, you know what I mean. 939 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: M hm. 940 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: And of course also it blocks a hormone that makes 941 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 2: you like have an app have more of an appetite. Okay, 942 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 2: you know, so it it like it dulls all that down, 943 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 2: similar to like how anti anxiety medication dulls doubts in 944 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 2: the you know what I mean? Okay, So It's fascinating 945 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 2: how it works, and I know it helps lots of 946 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: people because you know, and and if you're on the 947 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 2: brink of some really bad medical condition, you can be 948 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 2: and you need something where you can lose you know, 949 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 2: weight to get better. All for it, one thousand percent. 950 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think my break is just about the 951 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: impact to other people I know who are on similar 952 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: journeys to me in terms of like your self love 953 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 2: and your body and all that. To think that it 954 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 2: could potentially like set some of us back, it's just 955 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 2: kind of sad for me. I know it is. 956 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: And I'm saying, Wendy always thought you were so beautiful. 957 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: I know I am almost I always I trim my 958 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: own bangs, and I don't like. 959 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: Girl, you always serve it face no matter what, Girl. 960 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 2: I feel so beautiful now I walk out thousand You know. 961 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 2: I get hit on more sometimes when I leave the 962 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: house than I girl. 963 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: We were at Beyonce, Girl, the looks that Mandy was giddy. 964 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh and anohing one oh and another. 965 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 2: It was like, oh hey, yes, but anyway, thank you, 966 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 2: thank you. But yeah, it's it's really just about how 967 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: you feel about yourself. 968 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yes, that's true because you could be the 969 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: most beautiful women in the world. And if you don't 970 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: feel that about yourself then. 971 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: And I have been fifty pounds later looking at and 972 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 2: feeling like, oh I wish I could lose twenty And 973 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 2: now I'm looking back like what was I thinking? I'm 974 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: done with that bullshit. I want to be in this 975 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 2: moment right now. 976 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: I love it. 977 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 2: I look right now, yes, like that's the journey. That 978 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 2: is it. That was a long ass break. 979 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 1: No, somebody needed to hear it. So mine is actually 980 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: mine is a light light and bright. So so every 981 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: once in a while I like to highlight especially women, know, 982 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: especially black women own businesses, and so I want to 983 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: highlight the lady who does my brows. Don't look at 984 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: them now because they have not been done in a while. 985 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: If you're watching the video bit, you know Farah. Her 986 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: business is called me let me pull it up. It's 987 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: called Secrets with an S two plush secrets to plush. 988 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: She's on ig. But the waightst woman, what does she do? She? 989 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, well, one, she can certainly tint, she can 990 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: use Hannah, she can do ombre. So these are like 991 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: more permanent kind of like but I can't get that 992 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: because I'm allergic. So she did a little tests behind 993 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: my ear, and so behind my ear was like, girl, 994 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: you tried it, so you also, you know, because I'm 995 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: allergic to black guy, which I told you all about 996 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: the story how my face blew up when I. 997 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: Died my hair. 998 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: So I told her, let's test. She's like, still allergic. 999 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, but she's died. You've had your eyebrows died. 1000 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 2: You're not talking about like threading or waxing. 1001 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, she does. So, so I only go 1002 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: for waxing because I can't get anything else because I'm allergic. 1003 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: But she does such a I have been going to 1004 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: the same lady since I was fourteen years old. Shout 1005 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: out to Lisa and Irvington, a little Asian lady who's like, hello, 1006 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: no baby, I'm like Lisa focused one herberos. 1007 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 2: Oh my damn. 1008 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 1: I know. She was like an auntie. She's like, no husband. 1009 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: And then when I got mad, okay baby soon, I'm 1010 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: like Lisa, I just literally come here for my eyebrows. 1011 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't care for the commentary, but from high school. 1012 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 2: And therapists and business commentary, right. 1013 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: And so Lisa, so yeah, so literally she was the 1014 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: first person when I was fourteen and then up until just. 1015 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 2: A year ago. 1016 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: But it was all the way in Plainfield at this 1017 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: place called Nails three thousand, the typical place you get 1018 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: your eyebrows and then nail salon. But it just was 1019 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 1: too far to go. And then my sister Kara was like, Hey, 1020 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: I got this groupon for this place in Belleville, New Jersey, 1021 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: and which is like not far from where I live 1022 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: at all, like literally like a five minute drive, and 1023 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 1: I went and Farah won. She's like the sweetest woman 1024 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: black woman, and one I love when someone, you know, 1025 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: when someone really knows they're like like she was like, oh, 1026 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: what if your brows, you know, one of your you 1027 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: have a like I guess this is my left side 1028 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: goes a little high. She's like, so in order for 1029 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: me to even out, I have to do this. And 1030 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: then like I said, my eyebrows are really thin, She's like, no, 1031 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: they're not to you actually have thick eyebrows. You just 1032 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: have fine hair. And I was like, I'd never cause 1033 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, you go to the nail salon. Lisa is 1034 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: just like strip shit by I get out of here 1035 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: and have a baby. You know like Farah was like 1036 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: literally drawing lines on like she's doing a mathematical equation 1037 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: on my face. She's talking me through it. Plus she's 1038 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: just really nice and kind. We're talking like business talk 1039 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: as black women, and she just me it's her. Salona's beautiful, 1040 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: and so she's just like, yeah, Secrets of Plush. If ever, 1041 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: if you are in the Jersey area, let's mob through 1042 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I need her to stay open. Okay, 1043 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: I need to stay open because I'm where else are 1044 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: I going to get my eyebrows done? Her daughter just lashes, 1045 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, she she's so all my Literally we all 1046 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: go now. Oh, my neighbors, my friend Rihanna, my friend, 1047 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: my other neighbor, my sisters, everyone, we have all switched over. 1048 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: Everyone goes there now because she does want such a 1049 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: good job. But she's also really really knowledgeable about all 1050 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: things eyebrows, and she's just really kind and she takes 1051 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: her time, and so Secrets with an as two Plush. 1052 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: She's at two seventy four Bellville Avenue, Bellville, New Jersey. 1053 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: If you go to her the but Janisa, tell me 1054 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: about you girl, And two I just love like I 1055 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: love to see black women she opened the salon. I think, 1056 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: like he's it right join the pandemic right after, and 1057 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: she's just like I want to make it work, and 1058 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: I want to see her do well, you know, and selfishly, 1059 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to find a new eyebrow lady, 1060 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: so I need her to be. 1061 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 2: A business brows. I mean, I don't do anything to 1062 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 2: my brows, but this is making me want to do something. 1063 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 2: She's just great, honestly, she just you know they don't 1064 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: like waxing, Well, you don't have to. I think. 1065 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't think she does threading though, but I mean, 1066 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: like that's something to ask, but like so much of 1067 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: a baby for threading. I know, you know, threading is. 1068 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 2: I know I did. 1069 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: I used to get threading and I was like, why 1070 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: you do hate yourself. 1071 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 2: So you're insane. 1072 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: It's so painful, so painful, like people used to. I 1073 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: did it maybe three times, and I thought I was 1074 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: going to be my paints with a level of pain. 1075 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I'm appreciating that. 1076 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 1: That was really my my boost. I want to boost 1077 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: another black woman in business who is really nice and 1078 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: kind and funny and smart, but also very knowledgeable and 1079 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: good at what she does. And her prices are like 1080 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: super like that's it? You sure? Yeah, secrets to Plush 1081 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: you can find them on ig They're located in Belleville's 1082 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: Tracy p r. Yeah. We literally all of us go 1083 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: get our eyebrows done there, all of us, my sisters. Yeah. 1084 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: So that was literally literally and I just want to 1085 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: give another black woman a little you know, from time 1086 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 1: to time, I would like to, like, you know, because 1087 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 1: there are so many businesses that I you know, give 1088 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: my business too, and I'm like, you know what, this 1089 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: black woman can use a little extra, you know, boost 1090 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, and so Farah is definitely one of them. 1091 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: So that was a hey girl, hey Farra girl. 1092 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: If the girls tell yous skin girlies like you, yeah, 1093 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 2: they actually know what they're doing. 1094 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: When I tell you, I have never broken out like 1095 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean very sensitive skin. I mean like I can't 1096 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: even do anything. I literally I have a rash on 1097 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: my lips right now because I tried a new chapstick. Wow, 1098 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: I know, Like that's how honestly, like I usually only 1099 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: use birch bees like as chapstick. Because trying a new one, 1100 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: I was a girl, just do it, m M. And 1101 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: now I'm rashy so I'm back to birds bees. Literally, 1102 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: I have my birth bees with me right now because 1103 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: I have been. I don't know why Muskin is super 1104 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: sensitive and like I said, pharahm super clean. I've never 1105 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: broken out with her, which is huge because it's a 1106 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: very easy place to break out. 1107 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 2: I love it. 1108 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: Well. 1109 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: Shout outs to Parah. Hey, if you're taking ozempic or 1110 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 2: rather weight loss drugs, I'm interested to hear what your 1111 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 2: experience has been. I just feel like, yeah, I'm gonna 1112 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 2: stay away from that. But in the meantime, come check 1113 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: us out on Friday for ba Q and A and thanks. 1114 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 1: Your questions you can ask them. 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