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Speaker 1: Whoam and Dan and Tie Dan Urbnstein, welcome back, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back for Ballerhood, go back and listen to the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: Part one, which was our last episode, was dropped on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is I guess Team previews Part one, Big

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're doing some team previews. We're talking

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Speaker 1: got Indiana, We've got Illinois, Maryland, Northwestern and Purdue on

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Speaker 1: today's episode. So we split the conference right down the middle.

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Speaker 1: Nine and nine. Going to have the other nine on

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Speaker 1: our next episode. My friend, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: I live not terribly far from Northwestern. One of my

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Speaker 1: It's a very personal episode to me as well talking

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Speaker 1: to part one where we broke these teams up into tiers.

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Speaker 1: It's not a perfect representation of my upper tier and

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Speaker 1: makes the most sense to start defending champ not of

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Speaker 1: we talk about the Ohio State Buckeyes? Dan, Yes, Ohio

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Speaker 2: and Ohio State's offense fell off a bit. That was

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Speaker 2: It's what James Peoples and CJ. Donaldson are going to

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Speaker 2: like the transition won't be crazy. They are transitioning away

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Speaker 2: I think is where the concern is realistic, because basically

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Speaker 2: half of last season to win Games's fully dictated everything

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Speaker 2: Oh you're you're squinting and the the infinitesimally small crease

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's right. So we'll see Ohio State

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Speaker 1: Zariah Fisher plays opposite Dds. He's another good one, a

433
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Speaker 1: lot of experience. He's a senior. I'm hoping we see

434
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Speaker 1: Max Granville. He's my dude. He's the red shirt freshman

435
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: who I think could be the next big pass rusher

436
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: for Penn State. But there They've got enough along that

437
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 1: line where there will be plenty of guys that they

438
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: can rotate in and maintain I think the level of

439
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: excellence that they're used to, and it might even go

440
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: to the next level. Now with Jim Knowles coaching up

441
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Speaker 1: this defense, he has proven to be very, very good

442
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Speaker 1: at knowing his personnel, at being hyper focused on their attributes,

443
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: finding ways to put them in the best position to succeed,

444
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: and moreover, making in game adjustments to make the defense

445
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: better and not just be totally caught flat foot. I

446
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: mean every coordinator is in that boat at some point

447
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: or another, but Jim Knowles has been particularly good at

448
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: avoiding that. So from a Penn State standpoint, you got

449
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: to be thrilled. And by the way he's game planned

450
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: against the Big ten past couple of game planned against

451
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: the Big ten, and I think more importantly, and this

452
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: is something else I know we've talked about in the past.

453
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: He's a coordinator who knows how to use this arsenal. Yeah,

454
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: he knows how to use guys of this caliber, and

455
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Speaker 1: he knows how to get the most out of them,

456
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Speaker 1: which I think is the most exciting. Not to say

457
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Speaker 1: Tom Allen didn't, I mean, obviously top ten defense top

458
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: ten defense to Abdul Carter was the number three overall pick.

459
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Speaker 1: But I like Jim Knowles a little bit more. I'm

460
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Speaker 1: okay with this higher. You combine that with now what's

461
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Speaker 1: going to be year two under Andy Cotle Nicky, and

462
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: I think it becomes even clearer why Penn State is

463
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Speaker 1: such a title contender this year, or at least a

464
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Speaker 1: perceived title contender. Andy Cotle Nicky now having another year

465
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Speaker 1: with this team, a veteran offense, is I think going

466
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: to be really exciting. Now. The big question is the

467
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: receiver room, the pass catchers who are going to be

468
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Speaker 1: the past catchers. They haven't had pass catchers other than

469
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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, let's say, for the last two years.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah, receivers specifically lining up as a smaller than Tyler

471
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Speaker 2: Warren human it's been since Parker Washington.

472
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Speaker 1: Really not reliably so, you know, and they've had some

473
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Speaker 1: guys that have popped here kind of on occasion, and

474
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Speaker 1: you know, I like the Maury Evans who has since

475
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: gone elsewhere. I wasn't down on all of the personnel,

476
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: but they just they were never never able to get

477
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: enough out of that receiver room to really make it

478
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Speaker 1: a threat. So this year, obviously in the portal, they

479
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: went out and they tried to make it more an

480
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Speaker 1: emphasis three guys in particular, Kyroen Hudson who comes over

481
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Speaker 1: from USC, DeVante Ross more of a speedzeer, comes up

482
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Speaker 1: from Troy, and then Trevor Payne, who was more of

483
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: a later signing, comes down from Syracuse. Led Syracuse with

484
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: receiving yardage last season and had a pretty good year.

485
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: All those guys portaled in. They've also got Liam cliff

486
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: Clifford still in the roster, Tyzier Denmark still on the roster.

487
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: These are guys that you know, they were pretty excited

488
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: about that.

489
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: Andy kotel Nikki looked at and said, not good enough.

490
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Speaker 1: Not good enough, isn't good enough, It isn't good enough.

491
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Speaker 1: I mean they are role players. Certainly a guy like

492
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: Liam Clifford is a role player. Tyson or Denmark I

493
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: still think is a guy that they think they can

494
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: get something out of. But it just he's still young

495
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: and it hasn't materialized yet. So the question is going

496
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: to be can they get enough out of this receiver room.

497
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Speaker 1: Can they figure out a way to replace the lost

498
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Speaker 1: production of Tyler Warren who is now playing for the

499
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. You cannot build the plane out of him

500
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: like you could a year ago, so you got to

501
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: come up with something else. And I don't know if

502
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Speaker 1: that means we're going to see more of an emphasis

503
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: on the running attack because of Nick Singleton and k

504
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Tron Allen sticking around and aligned with four starters back

505
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: in front of them. I don't know if they're going

506
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: to try and turn the keys over more to a

507
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: guy like Drew Aller, provided he can build rapport with

508
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: some of those new weapons out wide, or maybe a

509
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: tight end and like a I don't know, Luke Reynolds,

510
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: we'll see. That to me is kind of the big

511
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: open question about this offense. I have a lot of

512
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: faith in cotal Nikki coming up with some innovative way

513
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: to involve his personnel in the best way possible. It

514
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: seems like he's very good at that, and we know

515
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: from his time at Kansas that he's actually pretty good

516
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: at building a good rushing attack. Last season, we started

517
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Speaker 1: to see throughout the course of the year more and

518
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: more of those home run plays, those chunk plays that

519
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: we saw in Nick Singleton's freshman year that went dormant

520
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: in his sophomore year. Under Mike Ersich, they started to

521
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: come back last year and that made the offense all

522
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: the better. So I'm curious to see if they're able

523
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Speaker 1: to kind of continue on that trajectory, find more ways

524
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Speaker 1: to put a guy like a Singleton or even k

525
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Speaker 1: Tron Allen in positions for those chunk plays, and frankly,

526
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Speaker 1: what they're going to do to make up for some

527
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Speaker 1: of that loss production. That's the big I think equation

528
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Speaker 1: that I am watching on offense right. Okay, but it's

529
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Speaker 1: all fair.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was a team that is a drive

531
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Speaker 2: away from competing for the national championship last year, and

532
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: you feel like they've upgraded a defensive coordinator and likely

533
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: upgraded at wide receiver, though it's not apparent that there

534
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: is like a receiver of the caliber of other teams

535
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: they are compared against.

536
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Speaker 1: It. They just somebody needs to step up. They got

537
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: to step up. Somebody's got to step up, somebody's got

538
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: to make big plays when it counts. Thankfully, we can

539
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: get into the schedule momentarily. Thankfully. I think it's a

540
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: schedule that's going to give them some time before they

541
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Speaker 1: get to that organ game at the end of September.

542
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: It's going to give them some time to maybe figure

543
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: out against the you know fi us of the world,

544
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: who who the playmakers could be should be as part

545
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: of this offense. But bigger picture, I must have read

546
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: five or six different previews, all of them have either

547
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Penn State or Texas as their national champion. And so

548
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: this is like the crescendo moment for Franklin man, like,

549
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: if not now, when is it going to happen? Is

550
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: it ever going to happen? I saw a couple other

551
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: rankings looking at position groups nationally of like the seven

552
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: position groups that we normally judge quarterback, running back, receiver, lines,

553
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: all three levels of the defense. Penn State's like top

554
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: five nationally in five of those seven, the only two

555
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: being wide receiver and I guess linebacker, which we tend

556
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: not to worry about too much on the Penn State side,

557
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: that there's always guys stepping in. Yeah, it's not just

558
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: the high level talent, but also the experience this year sure,

559
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: both with the players and with the staff that it

560
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: seems like it's a perfect storm of sorts for Penn

561
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: State to be in that conversation and there's a lot

562
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: of steam on this team. It creeps me out a

563
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: little bit that everybody's so high on them, but I

564
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: get it. You go through these you go through these

565
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: these two deeps, and you go through the roster, and

566
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: you go through what some of you know, the pundits

567
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: out there have had to say, and everybody sees I

568
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: think actively. There were some people who were trying not

569
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: to see it, but it kind of hits you clear

570
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: as day that this is a team that is going

571
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: to be in that conversation is going to be their

572
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: all year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, as the engineer of the Underthink Express,

574
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Penn State should be excellent. They need to pose a

575
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: threat to defenses, stretching the field. They need to find

576
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: somebody to not fully replace what Tyler Warren was, but

577
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: approach Tyler Warren, be some sort of facsimile of Tyler Warren.

578
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: Maybe that's one guy, that's two guys. You mentioned what

579
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: Luke Reynolds and was a Khalil Dinkins, Clil Dickens.

580
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: It's more of a blocker. But like Andrew Olesh was

581
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: their big recruit at the tight end position in freshman

582
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: from my neck of the woods here in lehah Valley. Yeah,

583
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: so you know how they incorporate all those guys at

584
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: the tight end position will be pretty interesting to watch.

585
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean look to oversimplify it, it's how do

586
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: they look different on the exact same drive that didn't

587
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: work out against Notre Dame. Now, where are the threats

588
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: on offense? Nobody has any questions about the running game,

589
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: this offensive line, Drew Aller's arm talent, nobody's any questions

590
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: about their recruiting and development on defense, and that Jim

591
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Knowles is going me be a good defensive coordinator, but

592
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: at a certain point, hopefully for Penn State's sake. It's

593
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: during the season and not during the playoff. They're gonna

594
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: be down three, they're gonna be down five, and then

595
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: you need to drive the field. And is this year's

596
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: Excelsior our nickname for having a set of plays in

597
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: crunch time that you can depend on. Is this year's

598
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: Excelsior better than previous year's excel seors? And there's no excuse.

599
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: There's just Drew Aller's experience.

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Speaker 1: He's good.

601
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: The running backs are there, so people are gonna have

602
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: to focus on play action. The offensive line is there,

603
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: the defense should keep teams under twenty points every week.

604
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: That's it. It's put up or shut up. It's putting

605
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: shut up, it really is.

606
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: The schedule is great for the most part. I mean,

607
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: they're on the road against what Iowa and Ohio State,

608
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: but they get Oregon at home and they have sort

609
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: of a tune up time to get you know, the

610
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: wheels grease before then four or five weeks that's late September.

611
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: That'll be a white out. That'll be a night game,

612
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: a night whiteout, which is pretty great for Penn State people.

613
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, they have Indiana in a tricky spot. I

614
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: think is that the week after Ohio State.

615
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sandwich game between Ohio State and Michigan State.

616
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's Michigan State on the road for the

617
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: land Grant. Like, I don't know, man, it's this year.

618
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: It's this year.

619
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: Is James Franklin again. James Franklin is James Franklin once again,

620
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: a really good coach who does every single thing really

621
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: really well in building a team, in coaching a team,

622
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: but comes up just short of a team who out

623
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: recruits him in Ohio State and out muscles him in

624
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh's Michigan who they don't have.

625
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: This here the two other things that I wanted to

626
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: point out, and then we can move on here on

627
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Speaker 1: Drew Aller, who we've mentioned just in passing as part

628
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: of this preview. Drew was very good last season, and

629
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: Drew definitely took a step forward under the new offense.

630
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: It just so happened he played his worst game on

631
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: the biggest stage, and I'm curious to see now how

632
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: he continues developing because to your point, the arm talent's undeniable. Clearly,

633
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: he showed that he's coachable and that he can't improve.

634
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: We saw that last year, but there were still some

635
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: of those moments throughout the course of the year. It

636
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: wasn't just in the playoff where he gets a little

637
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: bit Yippi, where I think he wore his heart on

638
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: his sleeve a little too much. I think he is

639
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: still growing into this, and so I do think even

640
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: though there was some steam on him maybe going pro

641
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: last year, given the supporting cast that he has this

642
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: year and given what this team could do, I think

643
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: it was the right call for him to come back.

644
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: There's definitely plenty in his game yet that could still

645
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: be polished up before he decides to go to the

646
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: next level. So I'm glad to see that he is back.

647
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: And let me just take a knee for a second,

648
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: please do and admire how ridiculous it is that they

649
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: got both Nick Singleton and k Tron Allen to come back.

650
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: These are two guys, both of whom, by the way,

651
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: could challenge for the Penn State all time leading rushing record.

652
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: And they're in the same backfield, which is a bonker

653
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: stat that my friend Brett, our friend Brett Sianka from

654
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Pick six People's pointed out in his publication. Just crazy

655
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: that that's even possible. But this is the kind of

656
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: offense that we're looking at this year for Penn State,

657
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: and it's there. It's James Franklin's Phil Collins moment. He's

658
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: been waiting for this moment for all his life. Yes,

659
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: she's cheated on me with five different guys, but I

660
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: think this time it's going to be different. This time

661
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: is going to be different. I've got him at eleven

662
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and one. I think they beat your Oregon Ducks. I

663
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: think they lose on the road to Ohio State. I

664
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: think they get revenge on Ohio State in the Big

665
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: Ten title.

666
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's a reasonable way to approach this.

667
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Aler wasn't great in the Oregon game either.

668
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: He made some incredible throws, but there was a backbreaking pick,

669
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: missed a couple of big throws, big moment throws. So

670
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: I think it's good for him to come back the

671
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: year it.

672
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: Should be the year. Yep, all right, we agree. Let's

673
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: go to your America's Yeah, of course, of course. Oregon's

674
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Ducks thirteen to one last season, nine to zero conference.

675
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: They also have an over under of ten and a

676
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: half this season, as do both Penn State and Ohio State.

677
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: Oregon notably won the Big Ten in their first season,

678
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: lost to Ohio State the playoff game, which well we

679
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: can get into that in a little bit here. Didn't

680
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: start out super well, no, Oregon, it really didn't. It

681
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: got a little bit better, but I'm much better the

682
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: starting point for Oregon and this team is undeniably solid.

683
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Undeniably solid. It's one of the best front sevens in

684
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: college football. They're really really good A one the defensive line.

685
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: I think that's going to dictate a lot. I look

686
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: at this schedule, they're like seventeen that aren't gonna be

687
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: able to handle any of that. They're just there. They're

688
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: gonna be outmatched. Then you mix in an offensive line

689
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: that's got some new faces but a lot of experience

690
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: that comes from elsewhere. Isaiah world Is the big left

691
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: tackle from Nevadi is a really good example. I think

692
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: the line looks really solid. I think on some level

693
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: Oregon kind of has some of the same questions as

694
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Penn State receiver room. Receiver room, maybe not to the

695
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: same depths as Penn State, given where they've been. But

696
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: Evan Stewart goes down presumably for the year. Is it

697
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: a Pateeller tendon? Is that that's the rumor.

698
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly the length of time, but I

699
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: think that is not the worst assumption that it's going

700
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: to be a long time.

701
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: So, you know, I like to Corey Moore, but I

702
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: think there is a bigger question about the receiver room

703
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: and if guys like Malik Benson from Florida State in Alabama,

704
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: if he can step up and be more of a presence.

705
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: There is a question. I think in the secondary, you

706
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: got some new faces back there. My guy Dylan Thieneman

707
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: is one of them who I think is a superstar,

708
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: but they got to pull that together pretty quickly in

709
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: the back. And of course there's a question of Dante Moore,

710
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: like I don't think you're going to get Dylan Gabriel

711
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: production in year one under Dante Moore. But I also

712
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: think the ceiling longer term under Dante Moore is probably higher.

713
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a better quarterback or can be a

714
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: better quarterback than Dylan Gabriel. So you factor all those

715
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: things together, it's no secret that Oregon is going to

716
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: be one of the teams that clearly is in the

717
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: conversation for the conference for the playoff. Notably, they do

718
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: not play Ohio State or Michigan on this schedule, which

719
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: is great. They do get Penn State, Iowa, and Washington

720
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: on the road, So there is ammo on this thing.

721
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: Where are you at with the Oregon relative to the

722
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Oregon we saw in twenty twenty four.

723
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: So Oregon twenty twenty four, they you look at how

724
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: they spent, You look at who they brought in along

725
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: the defensive line, in the secondary, obviously Dylan Gabriel, obviously

726
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: Evan Stewart. They felt last year was that year and

727
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 2: they still I haven't lost a regular season Big Ten game,

728
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: but they lost to a Big Ten team in the playoff,

729
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: and it looked like they were poised to go further

730
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: in the playoff based on what they did during the

731
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: regular season and in the Big Ten championship game, and

732
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: they didn't. So they are banking right now on talent.

733
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 2: They are banking on Jimmy's and Joe's. They are banking

734
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: on red shirt freshmen. They are banking on obviously, transfers

735
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: coming in along the offensive line. Bear Alexanders added to

736
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: the defensive line as sort of a flyer after it

737
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: didn't really work out at USC or Georgia. But he'll

738
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to improve draft stock and finish his

739
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: career in a better way.

740
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: Obviously. I think it connects with Dan Lanning from his

741
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: time at Georgia. They are banking on unproven talent. A receiver.

742
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: They have the archetypes of receivers you would like. Right,

743
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: there's a tall guy, there's a fast guy, there's a

744
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: short guy. There's a blue chip five stars. There's like

745
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: that blue.

746
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: Geam the old nes ice hockey game where you could

747
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: just pick the body types. Right, You've got all of them.

748
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a five star from three years ago who

749
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: hasn't really worked out yet. There's four stars all over

750
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: the place, but in terms of proven guys, there's not

751
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: a ton and that's a big question when you have

752
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback who is unproven as well. Dante mor Is

753
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: in his third year as a college football player, so

754
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: that's at least nice. He had a year to learn

755
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: the system.

756
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: That's nice.

757
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: I think you're right about it. Seems like he has

758
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: the talent to be an extremely high end national quarterback.

759
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: Got to show it.

760
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 2: He's got to show it behind a new offensive line.

761
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 2: It's a center and I think possibly a left guard

762
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: who they have who could be starting, but it could

763
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: be just the center in Pancho la Laulu.

764
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: If I got that right, better you than me.

765
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm definitely botching that one. Running back room is in

766
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: good shape. Mkai Hughes comes in from Tulane. He should

767
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: be very, very good. He looks like a Greek god.

768
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: At the moment.

769
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: They've recruited defensive line crazy crazy, well, not especially worried

770
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: about it, and they have one of probably the best

771
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: three edge rushers in the country and Mateo uyan Delala

772
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: coming back. They're pretty good at linebacker. They're going to

773
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: be working in some younger, inexperienced guys second day, you

774
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: like Dylan Thieneman. They've got a bunch of corners that

775
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: are green but seem to have a high ceiling. And

776
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: we'll see at the other safety spot. So there are

777
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: a lot of questions for this Oregon team. They've recruited crazy,

778
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: crazy well. They are deep with potential, but they're trying

779
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: to win national championship, and I think that's going to

780
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: be sort of a bridge too far this season. I

781
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: think there are times where they're going to look excellent,

782
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: where they might look like the best team in the country,

783
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: where they go to state college and beat them by

784
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: thirteen points and then lose something stupid. All of that

785
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: is on the table. I'm not banking on it, but

786
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: I think the potential is there to look like absolute

787
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: world leaders one week and then crater back down to

788
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Earth another week. And so I don't have them in

789
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game. I don't have them losing

790
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: more than two. I think it's very hard to find

791
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: two losses or more than two losses, and even two

792
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: losses might be tricky because what you're counting on is

793
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: a team with a They're being a gulf of talent

794
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: between Oregon and another team and that other team being

795
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: able to overcome it. And so it's really just Penn

796
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: State that roster for roster can hang with Oregon on

797
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: this schedule, But what happens with too many variables is

798
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 2: you just have that seventeen to fourteen loss. Dan Lanning

799
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: has been pretty good in close games. Sometimes those Washington

800
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: games weren't great.

801
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I'll just say, let's not talk about the Washington games.

802
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Bonnicks got hurt in one of them. Let's be clear.

803
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: Sure, but Org is it a good place. Org is

804
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: it a really really really good place. And if something

805
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: happens to a quarterback here there, Oregon has time to

806
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: figure things out. And by the time they get to November,

807
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: these aren't gonna be new players anymore.

808
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: Right.

809
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys have played rotation minutes at

810
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: defensive line. They have a coaching consistency with will Stein

811
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: on offense and Toash the POI calling the defense and

812
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: Chris Hampton back there. Like, there's a lot to really

813
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: really like about this Oregon team. They just can't craft

814
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: the bed against the team like Ohio State if they

815
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: end up in that position again.

816
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: No, that's it. I mean the schedule I think is advantageous,

817
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty good to the earlier point.

818
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at this thing and there are

819
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: teams that just will not be able to match up

820
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: with what they've got on defense. They're front seven, and yeah,

821
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: there's some new names and new faces I think in

822
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: the back seven, but taking in totality, the front seven

823
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: is going to be ferocious. And there are teams on

824
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: here like Rutgers. You think Rutgers is going to be

825
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: able to do anything against that. I don't even Iowa.

826
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: I like Iowa. I like Iowa a lot. We'll talk

827
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: about them on the next episode. I think there's a

828
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: lot to like about Iowa. But you know, even some

829
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: of the higher end, like mid tier teams are really

830
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: going to have their hands full trying to move the

831
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: ball in these guys because they're so good upfront. So

832
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: if that is your starting point, even if you have

833
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: other new names elsewhere, even if it's on the other

834
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: side of the ball on offense, just having that bed

835
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: rock of a defensive line that's going to dictate the

836
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: point of attack when you've you know, knock out the

837
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: ball when you're playing defense. That is such a huge

838
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: card that you can play that's going to come I

839
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: think more often than not into back in your favor.

840
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: And look and the important thing too, is when you

841
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: look at where this roster is, look at where the

842
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: coaches and people behind the program decided they needed to

843
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: spend money in the portal. It wasn't at receiver.

844
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. That's a good point.

845
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't if they have a backup tight end coming

846
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: in from Louisville. Like they needed help in the secondary,

847
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: especially at safety. They felt like they could use at

848
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: least depth along the defensive line. They didn't go after

849
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: it at linebacker. They feel pretty good about this roster.

850
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: It seems that this is an eleven win roster. And

851
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: once you get there, and once you get to the playoff,

852
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: you know, if it comes together and you're eleven to one,

853
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: anything can happen.

854
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: We'll put together playoff predictions a little bit later on

855
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: in the preview game for for us here, once we

856
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: get through all of the conferences and preview all of

857
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: the teams, and at that point we'll give you predictions.

858
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: I suspect that Oregon's going to be one of those

859
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: playoff teams. But don't want to put words in your mouth.

860
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: We'll get there when we get there, should again be

861
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: a very very good team, just might be a bit

862
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: of a step back. And I think if so, that's

863
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: not necessarily a black guy. That's sort of just reality.

864
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: Let's move on and let's talk about your This is

865
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: not my your Michigan Wolverines. Now, yeah, Michigan was eight

866
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: and five a year ago. They've got eight and a

867
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: half over under this season. They also are one of

868
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: the teams that you and I tend to disagree the

869
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: most on. This is true. You've got Michigan fourth in

870
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: the conference. I think I've got them all the way

871
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: down at seventh. But the margin, the margin between four

872
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: and seven, with the way that we talked it through

873
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: on part one, was very very thin. This is not

874
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: to say Michigan's going to be a bad team. This

875
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: is just to say that, you know, the way things

876
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: work out. I favored some of those other teams fishing higher.

877
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: Beat Ohio State and Alabama to finish your season, and

878
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: ty Shania twainsia with that. Don't impress him much. I

879
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: didn't say it didn't impress me. It actually impressed me

880
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: a lot.

881
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I still have in the place. I still can't figure

882
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: out how the hell they beat Ohio State. So I

883
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: got to give them a lot of credit for that

884
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: timely interception at a very good part of the field,

885
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: I guess, But man, that that upset to me. We

886
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: did the episode this offseason talking through like an upset bracket.

887
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Didn't that one win? I think that one w course,

888
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: it was preposterous that they would win that game, but

889
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: they did, and kudos to them for figuring out a

890
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: way to do it on the road. Clearly, last season

891
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: was not a typical Michigan season, and it was just

892
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: so easy to dunk on the offense. They had zero

893
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: passing attack. It made the running game very predictable and telegraphed.

894
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: No, they had a one player passing attack. He played

895
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: tight end, and the hope was that he was healthy

896
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: and he could always get open. He could always make catches.

897
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: But beyond that, you're right, But what I like about.

898
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: This team and what I think we saw in full

899
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: display clearly in that Ohio State game. To quote the

900
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: wise profit doctor Iam Malcolm, non know if you've got

901
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: the sound Dan do you have the sound I think

902
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: I do. Do you want me to play it? First? Play?

903
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: Right now? I'm simply saying that life finds a way.

904
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: Sharon Moore found away, Dan found a way to get

905
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: to seven wins, true, found a way to beat usc

906
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: in the regular season, to beat Alabama in the bowl obviously,

907
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: to beat Ohio State in the biggest game of the year.

908
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: Building off of that, now Michigan's got some real I

909
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: think win that it's back. This is a team that

910
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: undeniably is better now than they were a year ago.

911
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: There are a lot of new faces on both sides

912
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 1: of the ball, yeah, which we got to talk through.

913
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: But this is a team that again is going to

914
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: be loaded by a defense, or let's say led by

915
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: a defense that's loaded in the front seven. It seems

916
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: to be that way, Yeah, And ultimately we're gonna have

917
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: to determine the ceiling based on how long it takes

918
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: the offense to get sorted out. That's the general vibe

919
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: I think of this Michigan team. Agree, let's start with quarterback.

920
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: Though last season the musical chairs at quarterback were very,

921
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: very difficult to watch. I would imagine if you're a

922
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: Michigan fan because it just was not happening with any

923
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: of them. You had one guy who got hurt, you know,

924
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: the guy couldn't throw. It just seemed like it was

925
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: never going to come together and it was frustrating to watch.

926
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: This year. Now they went out, they get Bryce Underwood.

927
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood's top overall recruit. He's an in state kid.

928
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: For a moment, looked like he was going elsewhere. They

929
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: flipped him back to Michigan, and now he is all

930
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: the rage. The comparison that we heard when we had

931
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: Brandan Hoffman on this show was Vince Young, okay, which

932
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: is a pretty high bartic clear. That's a pretty high

933
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: bart of clear.

934
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: I think it was more physically what he could be

935
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: because he's so physically.

936
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: Even still yeah, even still. If the biggest source of

937
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: optimism I think this year for Michigan has to be

938
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood. He's basically gotten all the first team reps.

939
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: You've seen the pictures of him out there. He's a

940
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: full on man. And if Vince Young is a comparison,

941
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: even if it's just on the physical side of things,

942
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: You'll take that give it worth. Coming from Alex Orgie

943
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: and Davis Warren, You'll take a Vince Young prototype. Sure,

944
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: why do you feel so good about this team? Because

945
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: I've got him at eight and four, which I don't

946
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: think is bad given the schedule and given the circumstances.

947
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: But you've got Michigan as your fourth best team in

948
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: the Big Ten.

949
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: Why it's just sort of process of elimination. I think

950
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: the defense is going to be very good, especially upfront,

951
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: like you talked about, with not a ton of experience

952
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: along the defensive line. But they've recruited there, well, they've

953
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: portaled in there. Well, there's experience at linebacker, not a

954
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: ton of experience in the secondary.

955
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: I think it's j R.

956
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: Hill had sort of up and down year at corner.

957
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: Rod Moore comes back, he was hurt last year, and

958
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't know there's continuity on defense enough to the

959
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: point where I feel better about Michigan's defense than either

960
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: side of the ball of teams like I mean, for you, Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana,

961
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I'm just comparing against who else

962
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: could fit into that spot. Offensively, new look offensive line.

963
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: You'll bring in some portal guys at running back and receiver.

964
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be humongous difference makers

965
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: at receiver, but I think it'll be an upgrade. I'm

966
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: not counting on a ton from Bryce Underwood now if

967
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: he starts the season at quarterback. I think it's unfair

968
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: to do that to true freshmen. We see this year

969
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: in and year out, like even the good ones, even

970
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: the really good ones, Trevor Lawrence, whoever, whoever you want

971
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: to say, Sam Howell at North Carolina. Sam Howell had

972
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: growing pains and he had an I think a roster

973
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: around him that was better, a rushing attack that was

974
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: probably better, and going to give him more time and

975
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 2: room to maneuver?

976
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Michigan?

977
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: What is this offense going to look like under a

978
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: new coordinator in Chip Lindsay? Right, So you have like

979
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: the preferred smash ball hardball of Sharon Moore coupled with

980
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: a dual threat in Bryce Underwood who is has no

981
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: experience and you don't have the depth that say experience

982
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: a tight end or along the offensive line, how are

983
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: you going to marry a more green, questionable offensive line

984
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: with a preferred style of play. It can either go

985
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: really really well that you're sticking with your vision through

986
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: thick and thin, or you're stubborn and you're not putting

987
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: your players in the best position to win given their

988
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: skill set. That's the challenge that Chip Lindsay has right now.

989
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: So we're talking about new questions for the offensive line,

990
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: new questions for quarterback, new questions for skill talent, and

991
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: yet and yet they still feel pretty good all things considered,

992
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: because of this defense, that they can win a bunch

993
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: of games ugly, that they can complete third and sevens

994
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: to tight ends, which they couldn't always do last year.

995
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: That if those offensive linemen, and I think there's a

996
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: couple portal additions they've recruited offensive line, which of course

997
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: they have really well, that they can start to dictate.

998
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll happen at Oklahoma that's on

999
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: the road. I don't think it's going to happen there.

1000
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: But I think come October one, if the offensive line

1001
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: comes together, which I think it should be able to

1002
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: do with some sort of mix of experienced, youth and portal,

1003
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: then things open up for Michigan. You get a little

1004
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: more experience at quarterback, whether or not it's mikey Kean,

1005
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: who didn't play in the spring some sort of undisclosed

1006
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 2: upper body injury we've all had undisclosed upper body injuries.

1007
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: Ty.

1008
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: I just think it's unfair to put it on Bryce

1009
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: Underwood be like, Yep, we're paying you all this money

1010
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: and we need you to play like a third year

1011
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. So I don't have them competing with the

1012
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: best of the conference, but I still feel like they're

1013
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 2: in a gray area between the best of the conference

1014
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: and teams that are just not fielding a side of

1015
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: the ball that are immediately obvious to me.

1016
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: That are as good as what Michigan's defense could be.

1017
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean, on the point of the offensive line, I

1018
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: think it's a really good one. And the quarterback play

1019
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: obviously gets a lot of the attention from last year

1020
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: because it just was no passing game, But statistically the

1021
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: running games sort of took a step back too, and

1022
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: that was a function of the offensive line. The offensive

1023
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: line didn't just collapse out of nowhere. This was basically

1024
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: an entirely new unit last year because the previous guys

1025
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: went like six guys went to the NFL from the

1026
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: offensive line. So the running running game takes a step back,

1027
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: the passing offense non existent. That I think has set

1028
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: the stage now for where we find ourselves in twenty

1029
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: twenty five, which is new offensive coordinator Chip Lindsay, who's

1030
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: going to try to blend some of the power stuff

1031
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: with the spread stuff. New quarterback in Bryce Underwood. Draw

1032
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: whatever comparison you want the risk to me though, In

1033
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: addition to all of those new names, this is a

1034
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: schedule that if the offense can't get going quickly enough,

1035
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: granted the defense is still in place. I don't think

1036
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: a three and four start is totally off the table,

1037
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: walk me through it. I mean road games at Oklahoma,

1038
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: at Nebraska, and at USC are all losable. I think

1039
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: Washington is also a losable game, though that one is

1040
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: at home they lost last year. Yeah, lost that one

1041
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: last year. That takes you through like the first seven

1042
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: games of the season. If you go beyond that, you've

1043
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: got a Michigan State game, which is a rivalry. They

1044
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: should be better than Michigan State, and Michigan State played

1045
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: them tight last year. The very next week again is

1046
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: that Michigan State game after Washington, so who knows, and

1047
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: then I think they probably lose later in the year

1048
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: to Ohio State. I think this is the year Ohio

1049
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: State gets one up on them. So that's where I

1050
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: come down on this team. I don't know exactly how

1051
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: it ends up stacking up. I'm not expecting the three

1052
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: and four start. I'm just saying, given what they've got here,

1053
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: I could probably make a case for it. I still

1054
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: think it's an eight and four team. I think it's

1055
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: an eight and fourteen that's way better on offense. I

1056
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: don't yet think they're a real contender for the conference,

1057
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: but you could absolutely convince me that they're, you know, fourth,

1058
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: fifth best team in the conference. I would have no

1059
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: trouble believing that.

1060
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: I do kind of hate the idea of a true

1061
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: freshman starting as much as you know, like you're you're

1062
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: paying for Bryce under went to play football, though, right,

1063
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: if you're a Michigan booster, if you're the Michigan pro

1064
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: like I don't love that, I'd much rather him start

1065
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: sometime in October and give this to mikey Keen immediately.

1066
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: Well give him mental reps.

1067
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: Listen, No, he's he's the guy they're rolling with and

1068
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: the guy they're excited about. And if you've got a

1069
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: talent like that, we're also not there in practice seeing

1070
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: what this guy should do. And based on those reports,

1071
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: everybody is pretty convinced that Bryce Underwood is the truth.

1072
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: So we'll see what he can do. But he's going

1073
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: to have his work cut out for him because I

1074
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's an easy start to the schedule. No,

1075
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: not at all. No.

1076
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: I like Michigan this year. I do like Michigan. I

1077
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: don't love them. I'm exceedingly curious to see what their

1078
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 2: plan is against Oklahoma. And was that week two Week

1079
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: two on the road pens Who's starting? It depends you

1080
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: know what kind of leash does Bryce Underwood have? How

1081
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: open is that playbook?

1082
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: You know? How?

1083
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: And sort of trusted? Is he to take shots downfield?

1084
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1085
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: Like, who are you counting on to take shots downfield too?

1086
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: Donovan McCully left the Indiana program after a month last year.

1087
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: Good tall guy? Who are those guys?

1088
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: Tall guy? He's a tall guy. He's like six'.

1089
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: Five, yeah you can fact check me on, that by the,

1090
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: way after this show has gotten some heights.

1091
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: WRONG i think he's six' four is the number that

1092
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: comes to. My close. Tall enough, moving on YOU and

1093
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: i flip Flopped on Indiana. AND illinois I think I

1094
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: had illinois a little. Bit higher You had indiana a little.

1095
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: Bit higher let's Start, with, illinois Though because illinois is

1096
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: another one of those, teams where if you've been paying

1097
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: any attention to some of the way too early top

1098
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: twenty five poles had been floating around for the last,

1099
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: Six months illinois is one of. Those teams my first

1100
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: memory of that this offseason was seeing a POLL that

1101
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: I think ari Put Out ari wassman from on three

1102
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: where He had, illinois thirteenth and THEN afterwards i saw

1103
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: a bunch of other People putting illinois in the. Top

1104
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: fifteen kind of sat up in my chair a. Little

1105
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: bit not to Say that illinois isn't a, good Team

1106
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: but illinois is not a Team that i'm used to seeing. That.

1107
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: High right they did win ten games, last year ten,

1108
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: and three first time since two thousand and One Under.

1109
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: Ron turner it was a. Good year they went five

1110
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: to one and one. Score games they came from behind

1111
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of all of, those wins so

1112
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: they were battle tested at least down. The stretch the

1113
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: caveat is that Our Friend bill CONNOLLY from espn his

1114
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: second order wins stat Said that illinois was about two

1115
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: games worse than, Its record so the implication there if

1116
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: you don't. Speak metrics The way DAN and i tend

1117
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: to the implication is that there was some fools Gold

1118
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: with illinois, last season which you know if you. WATCHED

1119
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: them i think. That's fair but this, Year now illinois

1120
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: basically brings back the whole team and they've got a

1121
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: couple of starters that come OVER from i Think it's

1122
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: wisconsin's defense. As well ye peeled a couple of those.

1123
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: Guys off there was a heavy emphasis this offseason and

1124
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 1: keeping the guys on the roster that, they had which

1125
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: they did successfully and is what sets up this. Whole

1126
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: thing this is probably the best Team that beilama has

1127
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: had in his team at his Time. At illinois it's

1128
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: probably not, Even close so there's a lot to. Like

1129
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: there they're over, under though is just seven and. A

1130
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: half so there's an obvious point of conflict how people

1131
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: Are viewing illinois bigger picture in the national conversation versus

1132
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: how our friends in the desert Are viewing illinois putting

1133
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: a seven and a half number on. These guys which

1134
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: side of that number do you come?

1135
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: DOWN on i STILL think i would take THE over

1136
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: i think they're an eight and four. Type Program the edule,

1137
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: is tricky but. Not crazy They have duke early on

1138
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 2: in the. Season too they, very.

1139
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Quiet important Game in, week two. Can't, wait yeah it should.

1140
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: Be great the Case for illinois is the amount of

1141
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: experience that they, bring back the season Nature Of luke

1142
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 2: altmeyer that he was just he took such an impressive leap.

1143
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: Last year the connection he had with, those receivers there's

1144
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: no reason he can't forge that same connection with this.

1145
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: Year's receivers as Good, As zakari Franklin And pat, bryant

1146
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: were somebody had to throw them. The Ball So luke

1147
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: altmeyer did a. Great job he was great in. Big

1148
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 2: moments he led drives at the end, of game winning

1149
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: drives at the end. Of games they won. Close games

1150
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 2: you'd much rather win close games than lose. Close games

1151
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: there's a big, take THAT like, i say winning is,

1152
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: a skill winning is a Skill that illinois possessed. Last

1153
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: year they won close games late and they did, it

1154
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: consistently and. THAT'S great i don't say that to like

1155
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: pat them on. The head there are a number of

1156
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: coaches who came nowhere Near What brett bielahma and his

1157
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: staff were able to do at the end of close games. Last,

1158
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: year defensively they return a ton, of talent even though

1159
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: they're rebuilding sort of what they are. Up front that,

1160
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: you know against the pass they. Were good they weren't

1161
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: a good third. Down team they weren't a good third.

1162
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: Down team the pass rush. Was, nonexistent, Yeah right but

1163
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: you look at this year's team and, you're right like

1164
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: the entire back seven is back.

1165
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 1: And new guys.

1166
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: Up front so if the pass rush couldn't get, much

1167
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: worse it'll get better if these guys are a little.

1168
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: Bit better and that this is another year of experienced

1169
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: guys Playing against big, ten opponents, Right, that like there's

1170
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: not a lot of teams in the country who can

1171
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: boast the type of Seniority that illinois brings to. The

1172
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: table the Case, against ILLINOIS which, i outlined do we

1173
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: have to?

1174
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: A flawfinder i'm going to introduce. My, flawfinder okay what's.

1175
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: The kiss.

1176
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: They had to beat a number of very average to

1177
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: not so good teams in those close games. Last year

1178
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: they needed every minute of games against take, your pick Right,

1179
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: against purdue one of the worst teams we've seen in the.

1180
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: Modern era and so that is troubling to me that

1181
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: there were this many close games against teams, like that

1182
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: and that, they needed, you know every second of. The Game,

1183
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: against nebraska who struggled tremendously, last year they won a

1184
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: lot of those games because of that specific firepower, out

1185
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: Wide Specifically. Pat bryant and, he's gone and so year,

1186
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: over year do you keep finding somebody with that type?

1187
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: Of ceiling hopefully schedule's just tougher, this, Year ty the

1188
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: schedule is just tougher than where it was. Last SEASON

1189
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: and i think a lot of the teams on this

1190
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: schedule are built in a way that can take advantage

1191
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: of perhaps another lackluster, rush defense perhaps, you know not

1192
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: being able to stretch, the field perhaps not being as

1193
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: deep at. Running back of the they get healthier, running back.

1194
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: They lose, josh, McCrae like it's a lot To ask

1195
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: illinois to get nine or ten wins again without adding

1196
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: obvious playmakers that are gravitational on either side of the

1197
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: ball or are just. PROBLEMS consistently I think illinois is

1198
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: like what do, we call like the hall Of the

1199
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: Hall of good is Not the hall? Of, fame right

1200
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: there's a Lot of hall of good to. THIS team

1201
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: I just i don't know to win ten games two

1202
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: years in. A row I think i want to use

1203
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: the word stacked MORE than i feel inclined to do.

1204
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: Right NOW and i love using the. Word stacked ty

1205
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: you know that.

1206
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Of, course look the engine for the offense is, the

1207
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: line which is going to bring back five guys as

1208
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: Well As, luke altmeyer who had a good year. Last

1209
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: year definitely took, a leap and he's. A gamer i

1210
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: still don't fully understand, his hair but that's a. Separate

1211
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: conversation it'll be interesting to see how they use him

1212
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: this year because to, Your Point Pat Bryant's kari franklin gone.

1213
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Out wide they're not going to be able to snap

1214
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: their fingers and just replace sixteen. Hundred yards so the

1215
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom is they're going to lean more on the.

1216
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Ground game you. Did meet you didn't mention losing McCrae.

1217
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: To Georgia But caden fagan, Still There aiden, waltha, There Yeah,

1218
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: khalil valentine they're in the backfield. As well The best

1219
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: bilama teams have played this style, of football which is

1220
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: really dependent on the ground, Of pound so even if

1221
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: there is something of, A shift i'm not too worried

1222
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: about them being able to adapt and. Play it they

1223
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: just got to. Stay healthy to be honest, with you

1224
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: there are some real durability concerns about the guys that

1225
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: got in, the backfield and if we start seeing guys,

1226
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: go down if that eats into how they want to

1227
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: play this year because of, limitations elsewhere THAT'S where i

1228
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: think it could. Get interesting this is me splitting. Hairs

1229
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: though I've got illinois a nine or ten win team,

1230
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: this YEAR and i did not expect to be that

1231
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: high ON the lioni. THIS year i do Think The

1232
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: ohio state, game's loss that one's. At home BUT as

1233
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: i look up and down, THE schedule i see a

1234
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: bunch of teams on HERE that i think they. Can

1235
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: HANDLE and, i think truly in this day and age

1236
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: in the, portal era like having guys that have been

1237
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,959
Speaker 1: on the roster that are familiar with the system having.

1238
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: Some stability we say it all, the time stability, is

1239
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: Currency and illinois is probably a really good test. Of that.

1240
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: This season great because they're gonna have a lot of

1241
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: guys back and guys who were part of those those

1242
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: games last season where they were in those tight spots

1243
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: against maybe teams that they shouldn't. Have been that builds

1244
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: character to win those games to come out on the

1245
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: other side. Of it we've talked about countless others here

1246
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: through previous season that we're not. As fortunate so winning is.

1247
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: A skill these guys were part of it, last season

1248
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: and now a lot of them. ARE back I. Like

1249
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: illinois I've. Got illinois WHAT did i? SAY fourth I

1250
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: think i've got them fourth in the conference, this. YEAR

1251
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: right i like what they've got. Coming back i'm curious

1252
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: to see what the. CEILING is i don't know if

1253
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: we fully know what it. Is yet.

1254
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: They just have more losable games on. This schedule that's.

1255
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: The difference. To me duke is, On there indiana's, ON

1256
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: there usc is, On there washington is, On there wisconsin's on.

1257
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: The road IT'S just i. DON'T know i think you need.

1258
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: Some of those breaks to win those, close games and

1259
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: to esport two years in a row is, a LOT

1260
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: and i think They're going can you imagine a universe

1261
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: in Which an illinois fan is bummed out that somebody

1262
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: said a worst case scenario or they're not super high,

1263
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: On them they're only gonna win.

1264
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: Eight games oh, MY god, I, mean dan for the

1265
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: vast majority of the time YOU and i have been doing,

1266
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: this show the drive for six was something that we Attributed.

1267
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: To illinois that was. The joke, so now given the

1268
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: fact that, they're Here now i'm talking about them fourth

1269
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: in a ginormous conference with. Eighteen teams they won ten

1270
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: games a, YEAR ago i am really inclined to go

1271
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: over seven and. A half i don't see five losses on.

1272
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: The schedule even if there is something of a, STEP

1273
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: back i feel. PRETTY good i LIKE what i.

1274
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: See the, Indiana game MUST. See, tv, ah well let's

1275
01:03:59,520 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: Go to.

1276
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: India, then okay that game Is in, week four by,

1277
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: the way and it Is, In. Bloomington indiana hoosiers eleven.

1278
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: And two, last year like the bell of, the ball

1279
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: everybody was Talking. About indiana whether you Are a big,

1280
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: ten fan A curious, indiana fan a curious college, football

1281
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: fan or a PISSED off, Sec fan indiana had a

1282
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: little something. For, everybody okay they again went to, the

1283
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: portal the difference this time being that they were actually

1284
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: Getting power conference starters to come in and play for,

1285
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: this team as opposed to a year ago where it

1286
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: was a lot of small school guys trying to get

1287
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: him to, come up see if we can get the

1288
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: most out. Of Him To kurt, SIGNETTI'S credit i think he.

1289
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Did that he absolutely. Did that that's the only way

1290
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: he can win eleven games to get into. The playoff

1291
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: there is enough starting experience on, THIS lineup i, think

1292
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: again to make. ANOTHER run i don't think, they will

1293
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: but there is enough here to at least give it.

1294
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: A go I Love. FERNANDO mendoza I love fernanda men on,

1295
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: THE record. I do i love. THE guy i think.

1296
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: He's incredible he's a, Big kid he's a legit. PRO

1297
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: prospect i like pairing him Up With, roman hemby who

1298
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: they bring Over from maryland to play. RUNNING back i

1299
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: think they did a good job improving the. Offensive line

1300
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: they've got their top two pass, catchers back a little

1301
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: thinner at, wide receiver but they STILL have i think

1302
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: a fair amount of. Upside there the offense looks loaded to,

1303
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: me AGAIN and i think there's a good chance that

1304
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: We see indiana and a bunch of weird shootouts. THIS

1305
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: season i don't think the defense is going to be,

1306
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: as good even though they've got stars at all. THREE

1307
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: levels i think the defense in all likelihood takes a

1308
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a, step back but sure the offense

1309
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: is in, a really really. Good spot the guys they,

1310
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: BROUGHT in, i think just relative to where they were

1311
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: at a, year ago that you should have fewer questions

1312
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: about their ability to contend on. This Level and i'm

1313
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: pretty EXCITED about i don't know what it means to

1314
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: lose a Guy Like latino sinceri off the staff turning

1315
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: things over TO, new OC but i like where. THEY'RE

1316
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: at i like the town that's.

1317
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: On hand to, be clear last year Starting QUARTERBACK curtis

1318
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: rk and this year starting Quarterback For nana mendoza already.

1319
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: Made products so he is not going to be tasked

1320
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: with the Replacement Fourteen oh sunsei is not going to be. Tasked,

1321
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: with okay welcome. To school here's where your, Dorm is

1322
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: here's what time, practice starts here's how you. Lift, weights

1323
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: right none of that, is applicable which is great in terms,

1324
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: of continuity and they should be in a really. GOOD

1325
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: place i didn't mean to, interrupt you, But, Continue.

1326
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: No no, YOU didn't I mean i think all. That's.

1327
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: True now the defense last year WAS actually i think

1328
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: more of the story even though it didn't get all.

1329
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: The headlines this is a defense that jumped up sixty

1330
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: three spots in the. Sp plus they finished as a

1331
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: top ten defense. This year they have three legit stars

1332
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: at all. Three levels They've Got mikhail kamara on, The

1333
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: Line aidan fisher. At Linebacker D'Angelo ponds is kind of

1334
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: like their. Shutdown corner they do need to replace pretty much, everybody,

1335
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: Else though and THAT'S where i come down on the

1336
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: Defense saying i'm not sure the defense. Is better it

1337
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: probably is. Marginally worse but if your starting point from

1338
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: last season was a top, ten defense if they were

1339
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: able to make that big, A stride i'm probably. Splitting

1340
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: hairshow it'll still be a pretty. Good unit they're gonna

1341
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: be solt.

1342
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: On defense they Portaled In key Guys. On defense we'll

1343
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: see what that. Works out you're right about the. Starting

1344
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: point they were among the best teams against the run.

1345
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: Last year they were among the best teams against the pass,

1346
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: last year which meant they were amongst the best defenses

1347
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: in the country in year one. Last year so the

1348
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: proof of concept. Is there defense obviously you're dependent, on talent,

1349
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: you know you dependent on space eaters you're depending on

1350
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: guys tackling in. A scrum you're dependent on, you know,

1351
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: Great coverage you're depending on safeties, reading things linebackers going

1352
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: sideline a sideline, Of course but again that's the. Starting

1353
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: point the starting point is confidence in what you were

1354
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: able to do in year one and getting buy in

1355
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: because guys Saw what indiana was able to accomplish with

1356
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: no time, and, so yes the schedule, Is harder yes

1357
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: the schedule wasn't in credible. Last year all of that.

1358
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: Is correct but if that's the starting point for, the

1359
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: defense that there's, buy in, there's portal there's development from,

1360
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: this staff and there's, you know Attitude From kurt signetti

1361
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: on down that like we're going to. Eat people that's

1362
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: what we're going. To see that's the other side of.

1363
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: This man he brought.

1364
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: A swagger my hunch Is That kurt signetti may not

1365
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: be the nicest guy to. Hang around it seems okay,

1366
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: to me, but Yeah But kurt signette definitely has a

1367
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: pretty hard edge to him and he came. IN there

1368
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: i think he established himself right away on the. Basketball

1369
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: court when He say purdue sucks something like that, Wasn't,

1370
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: wrong no it. Wasn't wrong he wasn't Wrong lest, So,

1371
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: anyway yeah he came in like a. Ball offire he

1372
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: coached his ass off last season and he got this

1373
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: team into the Playoffs Against. Notre, dame yeah it. Was incredible,

1374
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: first year the, first year excuse Me. For, kurtzig now

1375
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: the schedule's harder. This year of course you Mentioned the.

1376
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: Illinois game that's a big One in, week four but it's.

1377
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: At home they also are on the Road, at iowa

1378
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: on the road At Your, oregon ducks on the road

1379
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: At My Penn State. Nitney lyons so it's a different

1380
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: conversation than a year Ago, for indiana where everybody was

1381
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: dunking on. The schedule the schedule. Is harder not the

1382
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: hardest schedule in, the world but. IT'S harder i still

1383
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: think this is a nine, WIN team i. REALLY do

1384
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: i Think that week four Game against illinois is quietly. A,

1385
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: monster yeah that more people should be talking about. Even

1386
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: now should be a ton. Of fun but this is

1387
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: a nine.

1388
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 2: Win team it seems like a nine. Win team it

1389
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: seems like absolutely a nine win TEAM that i think

1390
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: culturally has already taken a.

1391
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: Huge LEAP and i don't.

1392
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: Know there is something about this being year two, where

1393
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: yeah maybe it's not where it was, last year but

1394
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: nobody knew anything about what this team was going to

1395
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: be externally going into, the year and now are going

1396
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: To get they're going To give indiana, better, shots Right

1397
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: the indiana is going to hold it more attention in.

1398
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 2: The conference, but like how many of these teams beyond

1399
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: who did, You say Oregon And? Penn, state right how

1400
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: many of these teams are truly built so that you're

1401
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: confident that they're Better. Than indiana that's not something we

1402
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: could ever, Say, CONFIDENT no i Mean if indiana is. Merely,

1403
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: good yeah it's kind of Just that illinois game which

1404
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: they play, at home being the difference between nine and

1405
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: ten wins in.

1406
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: All, likelihood yeah in, All, likelihood yeah it's. Pretty good

1407
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: they're in a. GOOD spot, i mean talk about the

1408
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: modern experiment with using the portal to great a vail

1409
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: to reboot. A program, very quickly we'll Talk about purdue

1410
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: here in. A minute PERDUE is i don't think going

1411
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: to be able to Do what indiana did. Last year

1412
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: but whenever you'd take in fifty four, transfer first, that's

1413
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: true you're basically a shell of your. Former self it's

1414
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: an entirely, new team an entirely new cast. Of characters

1415
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: is there.

1416
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: One thing you specifically worry About with indiana that, YOU'RE

1417
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: like i want to see this be addressed beyond obviously

1418
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: there are, losses there anything that you saw Out of

1419
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: indiana last year where, you're, like yeah they're, really good

1420
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: but this was.

1421
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: AN issue i still at times question the explosivity in the,

1422
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: passing game which.

1423
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: They, were fine EXACTLY what i was going, To say

1424
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:34,480
Speaker 2: there was just sloppiness.

1425
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: At times. The, drops yeah they were fine statistically over the, long, haul.

1426
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah Totally but i'm thinking back to like some of

1427
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: the bigger games that We saw indiana, play in Notably

1428
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: That notre dame game in, the playoff and it was

1429
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: JUST like i was never that confident that they were

1430
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: going to be able to go downfield through, the, air

1431
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: right even though they had a good quarterback and they have,

1432
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: good receivers but it just didn't feel like a big

1433
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: enough threat to me that they were gonna be able

1434
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: to win. That Game so i'd point to that and

1435
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: also just all the new faces, on defense.

1436
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: And it was it was both a torn acl and

1437
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: like a semi like a broken thumb or Something for,

1438
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: curtis WORK if i, remember correctly because that's what he

1439
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 2: missed Time with he Missed the, washington game which they

1440
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: only won by, FOURTEEN points i Think With. Tavin jackson,

1441
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 2: but yeah you're. Not wrong if they're able to stretch

1442
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: the field. WHILE working i Think It's roman hemby coming

1443
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: in at running Back. FROM maryland i like.

1444
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: THAT move I like i like some of these guys that.

1445
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: THEY got i think they did a really really good

1446
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: job again tapping into the portal to get high level

1447
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: talent that can come in and play. Right Away For

1448
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: nanda mendoz Is Like fernando mendoza is. A stud he's

1449
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: an absolute stud and he's going to show it this

1450
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: year on a. Better team everybody's going to. See it

1451
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: if you didn't know, it before you're going to know. It.

1452
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: Now, YEAH no. I think I Think kurt signetty is.

1453
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 2: A businessman i think he just he gets people in

1454
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: that corporate mindset of just take care of business every.

1455
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: Single play he's the computer from.

1456
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: The bear he, just emotionless but he's looking at data

1457
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: and he knows what he needs to.

1458
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: DO next i don't KNOW if i fully understand. THAT

1459
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 2: reference i haven't watched the.

1460
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: Current season you should watch a. CURRENT season i was.

1461
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: So good does it have a plot? This time we just?

1462
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: FINISHED it i?

1463
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: Liked, It okay well here the only baron. Question Here

1464
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: It's fernando Mendoza cal bear coming Over. THAT bloomington.

1465
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: I am that's a pros pro There, In. Chicago, illinois

1466
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: yeah we got three teams. Left here We, got maryland We,

1467
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: got northwestern and We. Got, purdue okay. LET'S roll i

1468
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: can roll through all three if you want. ME to

1469
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: i can give you MORE respectful i want to Start with,

1470
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: maryland though, And hey maryland was four and eight. Last

1471
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: year they won one. Gaming conference who was? It against,

1472
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: oh gosh don't quiz usc usc, that's right and we.

1473
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: PREDICTED it I think i predicted it on, the show Did?

1474
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: You okay good. For you i'm PRETTY sure i did

1475
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: it with the? Points spread? Not, outright okay. That's something

1476
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: the over unders four and a half this season Of.

1477
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: The terrapins marylyn's not going to be good. This, year

1478
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: okay they're not gonna. Be good THE case i, am,

1479
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: making though, right now to the verballer hood is? Who,

1480
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: cares okay who, cares continue? Who cares if they're not?

1481
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: Any good that is not the point of. The season

1482
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: what is the point the point of? This season, vibes well.

1483
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: KIND of i don't know what the vibes are like

1484
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: with respect to the. Coaching, situation okay but this is

1485
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: a very. YOUNG team i looked at the. Projected lineup

1486
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: you can go out there and look at it. For

1487
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: yourself there's like six seniors on this projected. STARTING. LINEUP

1488
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: o i say whatever you Want about maryland, this YEAR

1489
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: but i think playing a very very young team always makes. You.

1490
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 1: Entertaining always it's not, Always, Pretty no but that brings

1491
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: me to, My Guy malik, washington CONTINUE who i incorrectly

1492
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: REFERRED to i Believe As malik williams of one of our.

1493
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: Previous episodes that's HOW much i. LIKE him i got his.

1494
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: Name out you were all, Tingled, up yeah for, a

1495
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: star true freshman from about a half hour just up.

1496
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: The road he was the number five quarterback in, this

1497
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: cycle in the era of the. Transfer portal you better

1498
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: damn we'll believe he's going to get reps, right away,

1499
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: you know if we're going to talk about It With.

1500
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: Bryce underwood this is again THE story i Think With

1501
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: malik washingtown and they also lost last year's. Start quarter

1502
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: he Also Lost Billy edwards Junior. To wisconsin who will

1503
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: talk about, next EPISODE but i think he's going to

1504
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: get reps. Right away he looks very dangerous to me as,

1505
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: a runner doesn't default to, the run but can. Do

1506
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 1: it the scouting reports basically say that he likes to

1507
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: stay in the pocket and get the job done as.

1508
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 1: A passer, so well, you know we'll see what he.

1509
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: Can do We've Got nolan ray at running back who's

1510
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: young and also. A Burner, dorian fleming the tight End From,

1511
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 1: georgia state looks promising. To Me jaliel farouk transferred Up.

1512
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: From oklahoma he might be one of the veterans on.

1513
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: This team he could be the wide. Receiver, one yeah

1514
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: BUT ultimately i think the youth of this team is

1515
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: what makes them pretty. Damn, Entertaining Also pep hamilton. Is

1516
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: Back pep hamilton. Is back yep back as now the

1517
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: offensive Coordinator from Maryland for he's going to step in

1518
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: as a quarterback coach. As well it's been over a

1519
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: decade since he was calling the Offense, for STANFORD and

1520
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: i think seven years since he was a passing game

1521
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: coordinator Up, at michigan so it's been a minute since

1522
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: he was doing stuff like this at the. College Level

1523
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: But pep hamilton's a name that, people know obviously given,

1524
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: his time but Back. At stanford this is also the

1525
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: best schedule In The. Big ten There's No, ohio state

1526
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: There's No, penn state There's. No oregon they do have

1527
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: the fly cross country and play a team LIKE a

1528
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: ucla in the middle of, the season but They got

1529
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: wisconsin on Here And. Rutgers Illinois obviously illinois is a,

1530
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: tough Game but michigan stayed on the road In The. Big,

1531
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: TWO like i just look at THIS and, i say

1532
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to do much better than this If.

1533
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: You're MARYLAND so i like the fact that they've got

1534
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: a roster here, that's young that they can work into,

1535
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: this thing a SCHEDULE that i think is relatively manageable and,

1536
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: bigger picture even if they're lowsy. THIS season i said

1537
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: this on the last. Episode two the game is not

1538
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: about getting to. Eight wins the game is not about

1539
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: getting the. Six wins the game this year is about

1540
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: finding young guys that pop because next year's schedule. Is,

1541
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: murder well who's going to be coaching. NEXT year i

1542
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: don't know his coaching, next year but, and truly if

1543
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: there's a, coaching change maybe half these. Guys leave but

1544
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: if you assume that it's going to be in state,

1545
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: next season the schedule gets really. Really difficult so they

1546
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: got to find some dudes they can build around now

1547
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: to make this. Thing better otherwise it's going to be

1548
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 1: a problem.

1549
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 2: Next, year well there's also a new Ad, at, maryland

1550
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: yep so that changes. Some calculus this was it just

1551
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: was a team that trench wise was not there. Last

1552
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 2: year pop wise was inconsistent, on Offense And mike loxley

1553
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 2: talked about this extensively that he basically lost the, locker

1554
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: ROOM and i think he just was mentioning It at

1555
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: big ten media days that culturally they were. A mess

1556
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 2: and so now, You're, saying okay, they're young, they're green

1557
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: schedule's great all, Things, considered yeah but is this a

1558
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: team built to do the little things necessary to, win,

1559
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: six seven? Eight games and it doesn't seem to be.

1560
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: The case they're absolutely shelled in the portal and, so

1561
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: yes they are relying. On youth like, you mentioned so

1562
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: they could be entertaining. AT times i don't believe there's

1563
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: much in the non conference portion of, the schedule RIGHT

1564
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: It's fau towson. And, somebody yeah they can get to.

1565
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: Six wins they, you know they're winnable games on here

1566
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: if they figure out how to best use these guys

1567
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: and they're, just again are able, to do are built to,

1568
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: be boring are built to just get off the field on.

1569
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: Third DOWNS can i introduce a spoiler at? This? Point?

1570
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: Please do they're not getting the. Six wins six wins

1571
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: is not happening with.

1572
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: This team there is something About The big ten when

1573
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: you look at this conference and look it might Also.

1574
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: Include maryland let's, be clear it's always on the table

1575
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: for six offenses to be. Catastrophically embarrassing if THEY Beat

1576
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: fau Towson.

1577
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: In, northern illinois who's the third non. Conference opponent who's by,

1578
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: the way not Everybody Beats? Northern? Illinois tie where's? My

1579
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: button not talking? About? This CONTINUE if i pull those three,

1580
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: teams out if we assume that they're three and zero in,

1581
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: those games they have to pick off Three, of wisconsin

1582
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: which is on.

1583
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 2: The road catastrophically embarrassing offense at times Last.

1584
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: Year WASHINGTON which i think is going to be really

1585
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: good that games are As it's nebraska back in, BACK,

1586
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: weeks yep travel cross COUNTRY. TO ucla i guess they COULD.

1587
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: Beat ucla bad offense, last year BUT now i add a,

1588
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: NEW quarterback yep at Home against indiana really good on

1589
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: the Road, against rutgers they might be able To. Beat,

1590
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: rutgers okay so let's say generously. That's five Okay, AT

1591
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: illinois i don't think that's. A win Home. AGAINST michigan

1592
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: i don't think that's. A win michigan stayed on. The,

1593
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: road maybe so maybe five and seven if we want

1594
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: to be really generous. With THINGS but i can't go

1595
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: any higher. THAN that i just don't. Know it, that's

1596
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: fine but again that's not the point. For me that's

1597
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: NOT how i am Judging this. Maryland Team, michigan state by,

1598
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: the Way Has penn State and iowa's defenses in consecutive

1599
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: weeks before Finishing. Against, maryland, YEAH okay i mean that's

1600
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: just something to. Monitor continue i've got them at like

1601
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: five and, Seven tops That's where. I'm at i'm around five.

1602
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: And seven should we move On. To northwestern let's shout

1603
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: out to, our Boys The West, lot pirates who we

1604
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: had the pleasure of meeting. Last year we'll.

1605
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 2: See him again. This year i'll see him again this

1606
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: year hopefully For the. Oregon, game, yeah yeah when we

1607
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: went to See that Duke versus? Northwestern game are they

1608
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 2: playing the organ games in the? Portable stadium right in

1609
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: the Portable stadium SEPTEMBER for I Think Big noon saturday

1610
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: is going to.

1611
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: Be there. That's, amazing yeah the win total is three and.

1612
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: A half i like to look at teams with a

1613
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: three and a half win total and see if there's

1614
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: upside because they're the fun ones to. Bet. On yeah

1615
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: the schedule Is murder oh, my god it's. Real tough

1616
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: who did this? To them why did they do This? To?

1617
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: Northwestern why Oregon At, penn State at NEBRASKA at usc

1618
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,919
Speaker 1: Home against Michigan. At illinois they also open Up against

1619
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: tulane on.

1620
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: The road So That's jake rhet's laugh and too late, Apparently,

1621
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:21,520
Speaker 2: reportedly yeah.

1622
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: Why did they? Do this why did they? Do this

1623
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: it's a, shame TOO because i don't hate. THIS roster

1624
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: i really don't hate. THE roster i just think they're

1625
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: going to be overmatched by. That schedule it's. A, lot.

1626
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 2: Look So It's preston stone coming in and they're hoping

1627
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: to Get Like peyton ramsey Out Of. Preston stone, at worst. He's,

1628
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: competent okay. He's competent we think he broke, his leg

1629
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 2: wasn't the same coming back last year STARTING.

1630
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: For smu.

1631
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 2: Got benched but he should. Be competent he's at real. College,

1632
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: quarterback yes IT'S just i say. This again northwestern is

1633
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: where these transfers go.

1634
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: To, die yeah. IT'S tough i was trying to think

1635
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: when was the last time a transfer quarterback Hit? AT northwestern.

1636
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: I can't, I Mean payton ramsey, was okay he. Was,

1637
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: okay yes he was Always a big ten. Championship game

1638
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: he was. Okay enough but there just is not a

1639
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: track record for them turning these guys. Into ANYTHING and

1640
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: I Like preston stone a lot coming into, last Season

1641
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: so i'm very curious to see how it. Translates here

1642
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: BUT like i, LIKE him i think the line will.

1643
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: BE okay i think this is a team that's going

1644
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: to run the Ball With Cam Porter, joe HYMAN like

1645
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: i think they're gonna run THE clock i think they're gonna.

1646
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: Play defense that's what they did. Last year they were

1647
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty first nationally in their pace. Of

1648
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: play it is a slow brand. Of football it forces

1649
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: everyone to be more efficient if they want. To. Win

1650
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: right the lost eight games, last year so there were

1651
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: plenty of teams that were able to make. You WORK

1652
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,799
Speaker 1: but i think that taken in tandem with a, defensive

1653
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: line that should be. PRETTY good i think it's a

1654
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: solid defense that is able to hold hold most teams

1655
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: down and at least keep the offense in. The game

1656
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: the problem is just that all but three of the

1657
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: teams that are on this schedule are like significantly better

1658
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: THAN where I think. Northwestern's at those Three, Are, WESTERN,

1659
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: illinois ULM and I, think Perdue but i'm not sure.

1660
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: About, that look they have the hope of if, they're

1661
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: decent if they, are okay if they are, not terrible

1662
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: if you take your pick of descriptor they could sneak

1663
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: up on people because. Of situation their schedule is not

1664
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: the worst in terms of timing when they get certain

1665
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 2: teams and get certain winnable games that if somebody Is

1666
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: overlooking northwestern after They, play oregon after They Play, ohio

1667
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: state after They play iowa whatever or before like, look

1668
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: ahead leta it's not a full, sandwichie, schedule which by,

1669
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 2: the way here's a little. Sneak preview purdue's entire schedule

1670
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: is sandwichee and trappy for everybody. They, PLAY yes i

1671
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: have no idea produ's gonna, be good but they have

1672
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: the opportunity to be a. Poisonous sandwich northwestern has a

1673
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 2: couple of, those spots and so that's at least Something.

1674
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: For northwestern if they are boringly decent and just keep

1675
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: generating first downs on third and two and keep getting

1676
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: off the field because it's windy next to, the, lake

1677
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: right that they have. THE opportunity i think that type

1678
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: of team generally has a seven, win ceiling and that's

1679
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: being extremely generous for. This SCHEDULE so i, HAVE them

1680
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 2: i have them hitting the over.

1681
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: Over three and. A half, I mean I guess i

1682
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: still think it's more likely they go two and ten

1683
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: than four. And eight, But YEAH like i looked at

1684
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 1: this a bunch of times NOW because i like betting

1685
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: over on teams with low, wind, totals Right and i've

1686
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: done well at it over. THE years i just can't do.

1687
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: IT here, i mean keep, in mind Even when northwestern's,

1688
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 2: pretty good like we know they're, pretty good they're only

1689
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 2: getting most teams. Okayest shot well that's true. As well

1690
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: that's true. As well there's just something built Into the

1691
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,839
Speaker 2: northwestern brand that teams don't necessarily probably at, their detriment

1692
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: don't necessarily get. Up for let me throw out.

1693
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: A random matchup here and then we'll move On to

1694
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: purdue and close this. Thing, out yes there is a

1695
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: home Game on october Fourth. AGAINST ulm i DON'T think

1696
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: ulm is going to be all that great, this SEASON

1697
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 1: but uilm is going to raison run the ever loving

1698
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: crap out of, the FOOTBALL and I think northwestern is

1699
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: going to do a lot of. The same we might

1700
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: see them open up a, little BIT but i this

1701
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: is going to be the brand for both of these schools.

1702
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: This year, first off this game is going to be

1703
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: over in like. Two, hours yes it's gonna be the

1704
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: quickest game. All year i'm going to set a reminder

1705
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: to go in and check how long it takes to

1706
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: finish this GAME because i think there is just going

1707
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: to be a lot of ground, and, Pound right i'm

1708
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: curious to, see though with that being a Week before

1709
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: northwestern's on the road against a Team Like. Penn STATE

1710
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: if ulm gives them, a game it would not surprise

1711
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: me TO see uls make that one very very close

1712
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: given their.

1713
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: Style play, please remember by, the Way that northwestern is

1714
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: not playing in a. College stadium they are playing in

1715
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: a kind of high school waste management open stadium on,

1716
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: the lake twelve Feet From. Lake michigan and they're Playing

1717
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: In wrigley FIELD against I think Michigan. And, minnesota yeah

1718
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 2: it's just, weird, environments man. WIND iciness i, don't know

1719
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 2: a little.

1720
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Over there going over three and, a HALF but. I

1721
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 1: guess so let's close this thing Out With purdue dan bombshell,

1722
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: Kids Ready, Barry, Otum welcome Welcome To, West. Loafayette louisiana

1723
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: comes OVER, from unlv takes Over For. Ryan walters they

1724
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: went one and Eleven last, not them, this, team, no

1725
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: definitely not, these players not this, coaching staff. This, program yeah, this,

1726
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: program yes one and eleven. Last season they're over under

1727
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: is two and a half wins This Year. Barry, otam

1728
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: notably he is the only new coach In The big ten. This,

1729
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: year like what's. The strategy you, might ask when you

1730
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: go one, and eleven how about bringing in sixty nine,

1731
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: new players fifty four via, the portal fifteen via high.

1732
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: School recruiting that was the most in all of. College

1733
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: football it's not Even. Really perdue it's Like A kurt

1734
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: signetti situation from a, year ago where it's pretty Much

1735
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: just Purdue or indiana in, name, only right you call them.

1736
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: THE personaries i, like, that actually thank you. Very much

1737
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 1: i'm going to give you three reasons to be Entertained

1738
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: by perdue. This, year, Okay okay, first reason he's got

1739
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: a couple of monster teams on, the schedule and it's

1740
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: not Good for purdue to play, this team, Mind YOU.

1741
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 2: But i thought you were, gonna say first, of all

1742
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 2: you got a monster drum first, And, foremost well the

1743
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 2: mot the big bass drum is, is easily very the

1744
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: most entertaining drum in, college FOOTBALL Clearly Usc, Notre, Dame,

1745
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: Illinois Michigan, Ohio, State, washington indiana all on. This schedule

1746
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: purdue's probably going to lose all, of them but four

1747
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: of them are. At home so if you are a season,

1748
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: ticket holder if you're one of the Collection of, purdue

1749
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: fans that email us on the regular to let us

1750
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: know what's going on with in. That program you will

1751
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 2: have your pick of the litter with respect to some,

1752
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: better teams at least on. This schedule so the home,

1753
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: schedule's okay just from a, fan standpoint just go in

1754
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: there knowing what the. Expectations, are SECONDLY and i guess

1755
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: more specific to, The offense devin maccab be back at,

1756
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 2: running back who's legitimately, very GOOD and i.

1757
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 1: Think he's going to need to be with. THIS offense

1758
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: i think it's going to be a Lot on. Devin

1759
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: maccaby he got an entirely new line. OF transfers i

1760
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,799
Speaker 1: think he can take solace in Running Behind Giordano voccaro

1761
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: dan he is their starting center who transfers down From

1762
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: The manitoba bisons where he was two Time. ALL canada

1763
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: i like. It continue so you got That big canadian guy.

1764
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: Up front actually he's Not, from canada but Played in

1765
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: canada two Time, off canada and then third and finally

1766
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: they're going to the air raid apparently again again they

1767
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: tried That With. GRAHAM harrell. I, believe yeah back to the.

1768
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: AIR raid i have no idea how it's. Gonna work

1769
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: they're only proven entity on, this offense is or running?

1770
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Back whatever wasn't? My decision?

1771
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: All, Right Okay ryan brown Almost, Beat Illinois ryan brown Almost.

1772
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Beat Illinoy ryan brown Transferred To north carolina and then

1773
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Back to purdue who. Came, Back yep so it looks

1774
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be. The guy reasons to. BE entertained

1775
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: i think it's more of a curiosity at this point,

1776
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: because again as, we Said With, north carolina how the

1777
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: hell do? You? Handicap, oh yeah when you've got over,

1778
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 1: FIFTY transfers i have, NO igree i have. No IDEA

1779
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: so i would almost be inclined to go over two

1780
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: and a half on the win TOTAL because i DON'T

1781
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: know i like that Anything.

1782
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: About, purdue, okay well We Know barry odom's a. Good,

1783
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 2: coach yeah. We Know, josh henson the new offensive coordinator

1784
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: came OVER from sc has a background. OFFENSIVE line i

1785
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: think he's coaching tight ends and the offense. This Year

1786
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 2: barry odin brings over His Mac, Matt, Sheer.

1787
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: Yes, Michael sheer mike share experience defense to.

1788
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 2: Run the DEFENSE from unlv, And Look barry odams one

1789
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: of the best defensive college defensive coordinators alive we agree,

1790
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: ON that.

1791
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: I, hope yeah.

1792
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 2: Of course so that's a good starting Point. For purdue

1793
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: THEY have SC after Usc Plays. Clay hilton that's not

1794
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 2: an actual like, trap spot but it's something They Have

1795
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 2: notre dame as a SANDWICH between I Think notre dame's

1796
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: sec portion Of the irish SCHEDULE between A and M

1797
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 2: And arkansas purdue, does. Right correct i'm not said these

1798
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: are No like i'm just going through. The list Purdue

1799
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 2: has illinois the WEEK after sc.

1800
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: The Week Before. Ohio state no idea what.

1801
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 2: That means They have minnesota the Week after minnesota Travels To.

1802
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 2: Ohio state They have northwestern on. The road the Week

1803
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 2: after northwestern travels To.

1804
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: Penns state.

1805
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 2: Purdue has rutgers the Week. After oregon the Week, Before

1806
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 2: illinois Purdue. Has michigan the Week after Michigan Plays, Michigan

1807
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 2: state Purdue Has. Ohio state again this doesn't, mean much

1808
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 2: But After ohio State Plays, Penn state Purdue. Has Washington

1809
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 2: between WISCONSIN and ucla, road Games and Purdue. Has indiana

1810
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 2: that's a. Mutual buy i'm, just saying if you're into

1811
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: like erotic, Sandwich potential purdue is.

1812
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: Your program there's a lot there erotic. Sandwich potento there

1813
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: Was a seinfeld episode, about that. Wasn't there pastrami the

1814
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: most erotic of the. Cured, meats Yes so purdue Is

1815
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: the pastromi Of the big ten. THIS year i. Like

1816
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 1: it let's. Go over i'm. With you, i'm ready let's.

1817
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 1: Go over we're both going over two and a Half

1818
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: in purdue. This year what the? Hell done? All? Right

1819
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: uh three and nine? Perdue half the three and nine perdue.

1820
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: Gets done you just have to be a snake in

1821
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: the toilet. For somebody by, the way did you check?

1822
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: The email some guy sent us an actual snake that

1823
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: he found in a. Friend's toilet it, Scarred me it really.

1824
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: SCARRED me i didn't write back to. Him yet i'm

1825
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: still working up the courage to.

1826
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: DO so i don't think it was like, a venomous

1827
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 2: jumping type cobra, esque snake.

1828
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 1: But it was big and black and it had stripes,

1829
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: on it and it, was like that was a. Serious

1830
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 1: snake it. Can slither you don't want anything slithering near

1831
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: you in. That moment the first person account of that

1832
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: story that he, Sent, Us yeah i'm glad he made,

1833
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: it out but that scarred me, for, Life sir. THANK

1834
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: you i don't know what. YOU do i don't know

1835
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 1: how you move forward with a life after. That happened

1836
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: you're just gonna sit there exposed. Every time, All right oh?

1837
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: My god? All Right ten, Part One Our team. Part

1838
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 1: one michael is, his name who sent? That in, thank,

1839
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: You sir thank you for scarring us, for life you.

1840
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 1: Evil human thank you for listening to. The SHOW though

1841
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: i appreciate it was a good one long, episode today

1842
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: longer than we've done in a good, long time but

1843
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: we had a lot. To discuss we will be back

1844
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: for part two Of Our, Team previews part three of

1845
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: Our overall Big ten previews series on our, next episode

1846
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: which Drops. On thursday we've got a lot of fun yet.

1847
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: To come we still got to do the sec still

1848
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 1: got To Do. Notre dame we still have, special, guests

1849
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: predictions things. Like that we're turning the corner very Shortly,

1850
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: into august and that's when it really starts to hit.

1851
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: The fans so we want to get these out of.

1852
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: The way make sure that you're prepped and ready to

1853
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: go for the. Season ahead hit follow hit subscribes that

1854
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: you don't miss any of the episodes And, as dad what's? Your? Name? Dan?

1855
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Dan Daane as dan pointed, Out earlier i'm losing my.

1856
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Voice here Verbalers dot com is where you go if

1857
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 1: you are interested in for the supporting what. We, do

1858
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 1: agree why don't we leave? It, there dan good? Job

1859
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: today hey, you Too. Gold star we. Did well yes

1860
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 1: for that guy With, there dan, For, Myself tie thanks

1861
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: for bearing with. US here i hope you got something out.

1862
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Of it we'll talk you all in the. Next episode,

1863
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: as always, stay, solid peace