WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - For Christian Kirk, Details Matter

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<v Speaker 1>Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>Flurring Rage, take it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the

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<v Speaker 1>popcorn ready, It's gonna be a show, and Ron will fleep.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't get any better than that. Leash far and

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<v Speaker 1>the first question right off the top, the only question

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<v Speaker 1>here on the original Thursday Night Football is run Wolfley.

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<v Speaker 1>There did Wolf big time us on the Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Rage tonight? Paul? What are you talking about? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>really you Wolf? Because we all know you went viral.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude went coast to coast last week on

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<v Speaker 1>NFL networks. So I just want to make sure they're

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<v Speaker 1>still on our air. You're still in our booth. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you jump ship and we're gonna find you with a

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night football crew in town, you know, as you

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<v Speaker 1>most of your way down to the national TV booth.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay, you just want to make sure Wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I couldn't pick up Twitter without seeing

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<v Speaker 1>your name being splashed everywhere. Somebody just passed me the

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<v Speaker 1>protective cup. Please and let me slide that thing in. Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>just stop it. Oh my goodness, you know what. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a national broadcast. Paul, I didn't even know it was

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<v Speaker 1>a national broadcast until the third quarter. We're past, said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Well, in a break, he said, hey, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know that we're this is a national broadcast? I

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<v Speaker 1>said what. I didn't even know that. Yeah, until your

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<v Speaker 1>phone died because it was going off every other second.

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<v Speaker 1>So as uh, you got quite a bit of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's good. That's good. Wal. I had general managers

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<v Speaker 1>general managers like kidding plural actually texting me going to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are audio. It was pretty funny. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that is good. That's that's a good humble brag.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's a nice flex right off the top,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're looking for it is the Big Bride Paul Interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Of fact, we're bringing in were roast partner and cohort

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<v Speaker 1>and crime Dave Pash will join us in the very

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<v Speaker 1>next segment as we welcome in Christian Kirk. How about

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<v Speaker 1>that name dropping here is Christian Kirk, the Cardinals receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>will join us. Wait a minute, are you telling me

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<v Speaker 1>right now that Dave Pass actually did the Christian Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>interview with you, Dave Pash and yours truly? Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>see how it goes right there. Somehow you couldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it worked with me, Pash. Well, he's got the podcast now,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, we had to get the cross promotion

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<v Speaker 1>in and we benefit accordingly. We bring in Dave and

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<v Speaker 1>he was hanging with the Monday Night Football the ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>crew a little bit. So in fact, that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be featured in the next Pash podcast, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming for him. We'll get to that momentarily. But right

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<v Speaker 1>off the top here we'll get some impressions what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw in week one, and yeah, we could spend the

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<v Speaker 1>next hour and talking about who was flashing and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>who was lacking. But how about the quarterback position. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, Wolf, We didn't see Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>obviously last Friday night, but he just had himself a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a week of practice. Honest. I saw every

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<v Speaker 1>moment of every practice this week, and he was really

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<v Speaker 1>sharp all the tempo. That's a great observation right there.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of tempo were they going at? They were

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<v Speaker 1>going every single sort of tempo. I mean they were

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<v Speaker 1>varying things. There were different you know, two minute offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw four minute offense. I saw more of a

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<v Speaker 1>traditional offense. It was interesting. But just and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what Christian Kirk will talk about it something that Buddha

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<v Speaker 1>Baker told day Pass about just the increased arm strength

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<v Speaker 1>with your starting quarterback. It's a very intriguing storyline right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell you he was sharp all week long.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you followed any of the Cardinals social media content,

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<v Speaker 1>he's also very comfortable. I mean, well, I have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen a different Kyler in year three, just the way

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<v Speaker 1>he's asserting himself and his personality if you will, yeah, PAULI, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that I've noticed. It's something you've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about as well. It's something that his teammates have noticed

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<v Speaker 1>and have been talking about lately. It's just it's the

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<v Speaker 1>maturation of Kyler Murray. It's something that must happen for

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray to become the true franchise quarterback that he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be. And once again, he's got all the

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<v Speaker 1>physical skills you could possibly want. There's no denying everything

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<v Speaker 1>about Kyler Murray is explosive when it comes to his

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<v Speaker 1>skill set right here, and he's proven that in the

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<v Speaker 1>first two years of the league. Offensive Rookie of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year of course in his rookie season, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Pro Bowl last year, voted in along

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<v Speaker 1>with Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers. That's something you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked about many many times. Everyone else. The

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<v Speaker 1>skill set is there now all of a sudden, BALI,

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<v Speaker 1>it's those intangibles. It's a leadership that is what he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to grow. And behind him on the depth chart

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<v Speaker 1>and in that room every single day is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>he grew up watching, a guy whose game he admired

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<v Speaker 1>when he was a four year starter at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas in Colt McCoy, a guy with a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>years of NFL experience and it's interesting to hear guys

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<v Speaker 1>in that room and the head coach himself. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>here's Cliff Kingsbury talking about Colt McCoy. Yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he did a nice job handling the system. First time

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<v Speaker 1>I ever really playing in a game situation on our

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<v Speaker 1>offense and operationally was really smooth, good decisions. That's so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought. Unaddressed at times he handed him so well.

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<v Speaker 1>That was on the Arizona Cardinals radio network. That was

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<v Speaker 1>after the game on Friday night, after he went six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven for sixty nine yards. But just his ability

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<v Speaker 1>to come in command that offense, and well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, just give you a sense of confidence. If

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler ever has to miss time this regular season, guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, You're not in peril. You have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who can come out and win you a game. You

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. Belli, Yeah, Colt McCoy, I just

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<v Speaker 1>played very, very well, I think for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>Here the one throw to Christian Kirk against that man

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<v Speaker 1>cover man, free man on the outside, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field they had a safety over

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<v Speaker 1>the top. PAULI. Great throw to Christian Kirk, a one

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<v Speaker 1>handed catch by Christian Kirk, and that, to me is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what Colt McCoy and what this offense honestly needs

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<v Speaker 1>to do this season is continued to push the ball

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<v Speaker 1>down the field and not just attack horizontally, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but do it vertically. They actually did that last year

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time, but I think they need to

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<v Speaker 1>do it more. Whether it's a tight end down the seam,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's it's DeAndre Hopkins on the dig, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in the seam, whatever it may be. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the chunk throw has got to really resurface here, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about those throws PAULI eleven to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>yards somewhere right in that mix. I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>they can kind of flex a little bit, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>really the play action flex that eleven to twenty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>We asked Cliff Kingsbury after the game as well about

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk and that grabbed that thirty four yard or

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<v Speaker 1>e referenced and whether it was by design that was

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<v Speaker 1>his last snap at the game, and Cliff said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. As soon as he made that catch and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to look at him, he said, I gave

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<v Speaker 1>him the thumb, said get out of the game, go

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<v Speaker 1>grab some sunflower seeds, and so that's where they went

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<v Speaker 1>from there. Now, as you saw yesterday at practice, there

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<v Speaker 1>was the Monday Night Football Lewis Riddick, Brian Greasy, Steve Levy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a couple of those guys joined Dave Pash

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<v Speaker 1>on an episo sewed an upcoming episode of The Day

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<v Speaker 1>Pash Podcast. In fact, here's Brian Greasy, the former NFL quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Kyler Murray, the Cardinals franchise quarterback, in his growth.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler I think needs to grow. He needs to grow

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<v Speaker 1>off the field, he needs to grow mentally, he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to grow from a leadership standpoint. Those are all things

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<v Speaker 1>we know and by the way, every young quarterback needs

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. I think sometimes we want a microwave

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray into, you know, a Patrick Mahomes kind of player,

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<v Speaker 1>because he is so talented and it is so unique

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<v Speaker 1>and we haven't seen anything like it. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a normal growing process. Now, there will

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<v Speaker 1>come a time when you know, you either put up

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<v Speaker 1>a shut up, and we're approaching that time, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we're there yet. Nana. I love that Polly.

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<v Speaker 1>That is right on the money. Ding ding Ding ding Ding. Hey, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>did you happen to play quarterback? By the way, because

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<v Speaker 1>he is all over it in Polly. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I say, just because you're drafted number one

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<v Speaker 1>overall doesn't mean you're a franchise quarterback. This is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why you have to prove you're a franchise quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And typically it takes years to prove that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback. And when I say years, i'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>three to four years. Not everybody can be Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>where you come in and you light it up your

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<v Speaker 1>second year and suddenly you back it up your third

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<v Speaker 1>year again. You just don't know how difficult that really is.

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<v Speaker 1>But to develop that kind of relationship with your teammates

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<v Speaker 1>off the field and on the field, man, it takes exposure,

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<v Speaker 1>and that exposure takes years. And you're right, and Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes NFL MVP is second year Super Bowl champion his

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<v Speaker 1>third year. You know. But there's a lot of comparisons,

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<v Speaker 1>not only the Cliff Kingsbury connection with Kyler Murray, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're baseball background. Interesting here. Cliff Kingsbury this week say that,

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<v Speaker 1>upon entering college football, had been an afterthought for Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>He had really been primarily a baseball guy, and he

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<v Speaker 1>envisioned that as his future upon his arrival to Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was interesting there. Speaking of the Dave Pash Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two featuring Buddha Baker available now wherever you get

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast or lay us updates on the Dave Pash

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<v Speaker 1>Pod follow along on Twitter at pash Pod. So there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Look, I've been one of the best things

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<v Speaker 1>that came out of Week one preseason game number one

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<v Speaker 1>is we could have a legitimate debate as to which

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<v Speaker 1>rookie showed up the best, whether it was Zavan Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>Rondale Moore, or Marco Wilson. You could legitimately debate which

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<v Speaker 1>guy was most impressive. And we'll get to a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys next with Christian Kirk and Dave Pass.

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<v Speaker 1>As we mentioned, he's gonna join us in and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it because Wolf, I'll tell you what my

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<v Speaker 1>other takeaway from practice this week when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals break the huddle in the red zone and they

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<v Speaker 1>have James Connor, and they have Rondale Moore, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>added AJ Green and now Christian Kirk has been moved

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<v Speaker 1>into the slot inside look out. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more weapons and options for La Murray in the red zone,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know how important that is to winning NFL games.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk is next. Then the big red rage presented

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<v Speaker 1>by Satan four in Gilbert first down in ten from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen pocket holes, he throws chunk throw near sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>single coverage Burke with a grab in the Dallas territory,

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<v Speaker 1>fanged out a bounds at a forty yard line. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go, that's what we're looking for a preseason with

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<v Speaker 1>step up maker one on one play and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>against the guy that's going to get up in his face.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to challenge him. But Christian Kirk has that

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<v Speaker 1>ability to take the top off the coverage and great

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<v Speaker 1>pass where only his guy could get it. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is the last time that we saw and heard from

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk. The thirty four yard grab deep shot down

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals sideline thirteen, got out of bounds and then Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>as we learned later, Cliff Kingsbury just got him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. He told us after the game, literally

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know what, Cliff went down on the

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<v Speaker 1>sideline gave the thumb, you know, just get them out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it off Trey Christian Kirk's helmet for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of sunflower seeds. And that's where we are here

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<v Speaker 1>on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk joins us, did we not see you on

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<v Speaker 1>social media in between then and now? Did you speak

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<v Speaker 1>the monsoon into existence? The Arizona guy? You are, Christian?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you talking about the monsoon? Did you did you

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<v Speaker 1>call this all the all the rain we've had? I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely did. I believe um. Like I said in the video,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was talking with my parents and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like in recent years we just haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>the monsoon monsoon season that you know, I remember as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, you know, five to ten years ago, because

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, uh, you know, some of those nasty storms

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<v Speaker 1>that would come through and knock down all the trees

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<v Speaker 1>and even knocked down walls and you know, flood the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>And sure enough, the monsoon season answered my questioning and

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<v Speaker 1>came came with an attitude this year. So it's been good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I like to see the valley get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of rain, and I know it's good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for how dry it is the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's it's nice to see well. Voice of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals Day Pass barely made it home Friday night

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<v Speaker 1>after calling the game on the TV side. But you're good, right, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>If you're good, I'm here, PAULI. You made it back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just glad I get to talk to Christian Kirk. Hey, Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. I know you've probably answered this question at nauseum.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably tired of it. But everybody's tired of talking

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<v Speaker 1>about last year. But when you look back at last

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<v Speaker 1>year and think, Okay, here's where I need to improve,

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<v Speaker 1>here is where I can be a difference maker in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, what stands out to you about what

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<v Speaker 1>you learned from a year ago. Well, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for myself personally, you know, it's just you know, approaching

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<v Speaker 1>each week with that same consistent mindset and with a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff mindset. You know, last year was really the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I really got to, you know, have that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of taste a little bit of that of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fighting and vying for a playoff spot. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and just the sense of urgency, you know, especially towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, and the type of football

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be played. And you know, the martygin

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<v Speaker 1>of airs is so small, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you know you're you're playing you're one game

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<v Speaker 1>away from making the playoffs, um, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>reaching that that goal. So you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was the one thing that I learned is just um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just the margin of air. It's so small,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to be on every little detail and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every play matters. You know, you can't can't

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<v Speaker 1>take a playoff and you can't um, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, do your job. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a key for us, you know, as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>as a team, is you know, showing up and approaching

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<v Speaker 1>every game, um like it's a playoff game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe if we do that, then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a shot to be to be really good

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<v Speaker 1>and we just gotta, you know, like I said, cut

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<v Speaker 1>out the little little mistakes. So what does that look

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<v Speaker 1>like then individually for you in terms of adjusting your

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<v Speaker 1>mindset knowing going into the season that hey, every game

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be like that. I like that this

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<v Speaker 1>year because you know we are a playoff team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just uh, I have to have to

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<v Speaker 1>play to the level of you know, expectation and play

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<v Speaker 1>to the level that you know the team needs me

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<v Speaker 1>to play at. Um. And you know, I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going to have a significant role, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you know they're going to be counting

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<v Speaker 1>on me to to to make big plays and make

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<v Speaker 1>consistent catches and um, you know, play tough across the

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<v Speaker 1>middle and and and you know, make sure I'm blocking

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, tough in the run game and

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<v Speaker 1>things of like that. And so you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for it. You know, I've I've put in

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<v Speaker 1>the the the work for this offseason and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just just feel you know different out there, feel more mature,

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<v Speaker 1>and just feel um like the like the game's just

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<v Speaker 1>coming coming pretty easy to me right now. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just ready to go out there and play. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about you, Christian Kirk presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>We are to clip in the off season from Flight

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<v Speaker 1>Plan where a Cliff Kingsbury was talking to you during

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<v Speaker 1>OTAs on the sideline and he mentioned being the inside

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<v Speaker 1>receiver more often. Is that your expectation and how much

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking forward to that? How much do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that suits your game? Um? Yeah, I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is the expectation. Um. But you know, like I said

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<v Speaker 1>with with Cliff, you know, he can kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>you all over the place, you know, no matter no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what and all. It just kind of depends on

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<v Speaker 1>the game plan. But for right now, obviously think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's the plan, and you know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's exciting. You know, that's the position that I played

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<v Speaker 1>in this offense when I was at Texas A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of night and day for me. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just, uh, you know, kind of kind of working

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<v Speaker 1>out some kings, but other than that, it's it's second

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<v Speaker 1>nature for me and guys. As we know, the Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals led in the NFL and ten personnel a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>four wide receiver. So let me get this straight. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Green, Christian Kirk, Rondelle Moore, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tempting Christian for your head coach, right and your

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<v Speaker 1>play caller. I'm guessing he's not going to hesitate to

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<v Speaker 1>go with that personnel package this year. Uh, he definitely won't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he's he's uh, he's showing that before.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm just excited to uh to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the game plans, you know, weekend, week out and see

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<v Speaker 1>what he has a journal for us. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>what sort of challenge do you think that is for

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive backfield? Just NFL defense is based on what

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen so far. How stoked are you about your

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver room? Oh, I mean we can we can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be one of the best in the league, if

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<v Speaker 1>not the best in the league. Um, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's our mentality just with uh, you know, the type

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that we have, you know, obviously with uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with with aj And and DeAndre being two

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<v Speaker 1>future Hall of Famers, you know that's uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the pinnacle. You know that not too

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<v Speaker 1>many times, Um, you know, do you get to play

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<v Speaker 1>with with two Hall of Famers And yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>Larry and and DeAndre last year for me, I get

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<v Speaker 1>to sit back and just be like, man, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to say that. You know, each year I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, I've I've had two Hall of Famers

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<v Speaker 1>in my room, which is crazy and so um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys leading the way and then you know Ron Dale,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming along, and you know some of those

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<v Speaker 1>other guys, you know, just being able to learn from them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they they set the level of expectation, they

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<v Speaker 1>set the level of play, and you know we all

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<v Speaker 1>just have to meet that standard. Christian, I wants your

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<v Speaker 1>take on Kyler Murray on the Dave Pash Podcast. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>shameless self promotion, Christian downloading on your way home Buddha.

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<v Speaker 1>Baker sat down with Buddha and asked him where do

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<v Speaker 1>you see Kyler Murray improving from a year ago? And

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<v Speaker 1>he actually his answer was interesting. He said arm strength.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, his arm is stronger. What are you noticing

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<v Speaker 1>from Kyler Murray that's different from last year? And it

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something that is in the locker room. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we don't see when we're watching practice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely agree with Buddhist statement in his arm strength.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he did this offseason, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know the balls coming out with a lot more zip

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and you know even on his deep balls,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's right on the money, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how how deep the guy is down the field. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from my point of view, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is just his decision making and to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go through his reads and no presnap, you know where

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to go with the ball, but also knowing

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<v Speaker 1>all right if he doesn't get the look that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants or the guy, and when he knows, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to get through his other reads and he knows where

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<v Speaker 1>guys are at. And so I think his decision making,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from so far what I've seen in camp

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<v Speaker 1>has just has been elevated a lot more since last year. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Edmonds raped on Twitter about to throw this week

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<v Speaker 1>in practice on the run fifty yards downfield on the

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<v Speaker 1>money in the end zone, and so Kyler was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Didn't you go to SoCal over the summer

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<v Speaker 1>with Chase and Byron Murphy? You guys hung out and

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<v Speaker 1>trained during the summer. Yep, yeah, we I've been going

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<v Speaker 1>to California every year during the off season and training

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<v Speaker 1>with my trader, Jamal Leggins and Chase joined two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we brought Byron along with us this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was good. You know. We bought Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Washington too. He came for a little bit. Isaiah Simmons came,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're just getting guys to come out there

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<v Speaker 1>and go out there and get some good work and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put in some of that, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>that offseason work that's needed and kind of put the landing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the foundational blocks down to to get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the season. We had Ion Murphy a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. He said he had to go on the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody had to keep Chase straight because he always thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he's right. So somebody had to had a verbally spar

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<v Speaker 1>with Chase Edmonds during the or else he just gets

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<v Speaker 1>off and on too many rants. So yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the emotional capacity sometimes to be able to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with Chase, so I bring somebody else along to

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<v Speaker 1>talk for me. That's great. Christian Kirk joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage. Right. If you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>about a corner, ask a receiver. Tell us about Marco Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>He made plays in the game, He's made plays in

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<v Speaker 1>practice all week long. Give us your thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round rookie. You know he's been um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very very mature and very poised, you know, so far

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<v Speaker 1>in camp. And you know, one thing that sticks out

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<v Speaker 1>for me with Marco is you know he's never out

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<v Speaker 1>of position. You know, he's always in a position to

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<v Speaker 1>make a play on the ball. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing encouraging. You know, when you look at a

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<v Speaker 1>young corners, you know he's not getting beat bad and

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's not you know, getting tons of catches

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<v Speaker 1>you know, caught on him. You know where they're wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's always making them contested, you know, catches.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's that's uh, you know, really important.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems like he's picking up the scheme well.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're all, you know, really excited about his development,

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<v Speaker 1>how he's playing so far. What's it like to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the same room with Aj Green? And is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything specifically that you've learned from him? And do you

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<v Speaker 1>see aj is having a lot left in the tank?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I definitely think he has a lot left

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<v Speaker 1>in the tank. You know, we were all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed and with how he's been able to have

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<v Speaker 1>been practicing, and you know just the way he comes

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<v Speaker 1>off the ball and you know, you see it, you

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<v Speaker 1>see why he's been you know, one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>receivers in the league, you know, over the past decade,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're just excited to have him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a locker right next to him, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got to you know, talk to him a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's just a great, genuine dude, and you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's also like not afraid to ask questions, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>asking me questions. And he's got you know, eight years

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<v Speaker 1>on me in the league. And so just to to

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<v Speaker 1>to see that and have a guy like that in

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<v Speaker 1>the room is is good, you know, just for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's good for guys like me and my development

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, see you know why he's been success

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<v Speaker 1>so successful in the league. You know, the DB's have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how there's four distinctly different receivers between an

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green and DeAndre Hopkins your game and then Rondale Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think Rondale Moore, the rookie impacts this

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<v Speaker 1>offense Christian you know, I think he just adds that

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 1>extra dimension, you know when it comes to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stretching the field either latterly or vertically. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>kid ran a four two and um, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>with how quick he is, you know, with his hands

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<v Speaker 1>and his eyes and in and out of breaks. You

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<v Speaker 1>know he's he's coming along good and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can see it. You know he wants to stick in

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<v Speaker 1>his foot in the ground and go, uh, he's separating

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<v Speaker 1>from guys. So I think there's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, really cool ways and things that you know,

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Cliff is going to be able to, you know, get

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 1>him the ball in space, get the ball in his hands,

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>and you know, really help us out this year. All right,

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.959
<v Speaker 1>so we know your relationship with fits. You got him

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<v Speaker 1>on speed dial, Dave. Dave name dropped earlier. So I'm

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna flex. I did this MC event with Roger Goodell

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, right, and he said that

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 1>he texted Larry he was in town. Larry said, sorry,

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing golf in kna So what is Larry doing

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>these days? And what's he waiting for? I mean, what

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>what do you think he's waiting for? With anything? Yeah,

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.399
<v Speaker 1>may or may not have got a couple of clips

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of him teeing off over there in Kona. So while

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>he's asking us how practice is going, Um, it seems

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>like he's enjoying life pretty pretty well row well right now.

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.719
<v Speaker 1>But um, you know, I leave it to him. You know,

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>we talk and you know, you know how larious. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter how many times you ask him, you know, he'll

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.400
<v Speaker 1>always beat around the bush. So I think we've all

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<v Speaker 1>or at least from my standpoint, I've I've quit asking

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.120
<v Speaker 1>him and just uh, you know, to shoot him text

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>from here and there, and he's he's checking in on

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, me and Chase and you know, obviously turning

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>over in San Francisco. He's just checking in on us

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, still being that big brother figure to

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>us and joking around. So you know, I'm just at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, I'm just letting him be in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we hear, we we'll hear that last question for

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk Byron Murphy has his own fashion line out

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Are you Are you launching something similar or have you already? Yeah?

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I've had air Lieberry Avenue as my clothing line. I

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>launched it in February. It's named after the street I

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>grew up here in Arizona. And we're in two retail stores,

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>um in Fashion Square Mall and it's been real successful

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>so far. And you know just uh, you know something

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I've always you know, wanted to do something different than

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>just you know, fan merchandise. You know, I wanted to

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>be a little creative and you know, start it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's been it's been good. You know, been a

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of hard work, but it's good to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>learn the ins and outs of starting in business and

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>running one too. Do you make any ties that might

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>look good on television? Because Ron Wolf Lee still has

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<v Speaker 1>one tie that he's had for the last thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs a new tie. Christian, can you provide one.

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll see if I can get him right and if if,

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<v Speaker 1>if he if he rocks it for every game, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>definitely get his own special round Wolflee tie. Wolf doesn't

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>need a new tie, needs a new wolk. Okay, he

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>needs an extreme makeover. We're gonna send him over for

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>an entire day over to your place. Okay, Christian, thank you, Yeah,

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>thank you guys. Thank there you go. Christian Kirk on

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage Man looking forward to this receiver

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>group and Christian Kirk being in a contract year, these

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 1>guys are the fall and we are looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll continue with a big red rate presented by santan

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<v Speaker 1>Ford and Gilbert. Right after this first down and ten

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>from the thirty five, Gilbert under center again and this

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>time they'll keep it on the ground and hit in

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the backfield and dragged down as a Dallas running back.

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And there is saving Collins with a tackle for loss

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>on the very first run play of his career. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what you are looking for. A linebacker to

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<v Speaker 1>float out quickly the two receivers to the near side

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and out of the gun. Three step dropped plenty of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Rifles went over the middle. There's Marco Wilson and coverage

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<v Speaker 1>with a pass break up step first step with the

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<v Speaker 1>intended receiver. Marco Wilson one of the highest graded rookies,

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<v Speaker 1>at least according to some of the analytics and the

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<v Speaker 1>grading services. In Week one of the preseason. Officially, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of passes defense according to Pro Football Focus,

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<v Speaker 1>six targets, three worst in completion. So, as we said,

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<v Speaker 1>you could make a case for any of the top

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>three drafted rookies as to who showed up and bawled

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<v Speaker 1>out in Week one of the preseason. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, Paul

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<v Speaker 1>kelvc Ron Wolfley, thanks to Christian Kirk and Dave Pastor

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<v Speaker 1>joined us at last segment. And all apologies to Wolf

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>from me and Pash for the cheap shot when he

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there to defend himself at the very end of

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the interview, but a lot of worthwhile stuff up until

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. Your takeaways, Wolf from some of what Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>had to say. You know what I would say, PAULI

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<v Speaker 1>overall just his maturity, the maturity level of Christian Kirk.

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have noticed this at all,

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>but he just seems so okay with himself and so

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<v Speaker 1>confident in his abilities and his skills. I thought every

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>answer was weighed, it was measured, and you know me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a guy that loves the art of speaking Median

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and he did it very very well. He answered all

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<v Speaker 1>the questions and yet he was very articulate and intelligence

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>and it was a great interview by Christian Kirk. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love his maturity overall. I think it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's developing into a veteran. And when he said

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>that that slot position and this offense is akin to

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>his A and M days and that second nature to me,

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and that makes you fired up, doesn't it. If that's

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>right in his wheelhouse, then it does make you wonder, Okay,

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>what's to come? That's the side benefit of adding an

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>AJ Green is now Christian Kirk kicks inside. And then

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.479
<v Speaker 1>his comments and Kyler Murray and the increased arm strength

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that he has more zip on the ball and the

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>deep balls have been on the money, and then Kyler's

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>decision making and in year three of the offense. So

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of intriguing stuff right there. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>talked a little bit about the rookies. But Wolf, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear your thoughts on Zaven Collins And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the highlight was the tackle for loss in the second

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>play of the game. Let me just say, going into

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>this game, Polly, you know how jacked up I was

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to watch a Zaven Collins. That was the talk all

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>week before the game against the Cowboys. How would Zaven

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<v Speaker 1>Collins actually hold up? Oh my goodness, I gotta tell you.

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>The Dallas Cowboys got into twenty one personnel with two

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>backs including a fullback, and they ran Io. They went

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>after Xavan Collins. So it was an awesome thing to

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<v Speaker 1>actually see him respond the way that he did. Second

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>play the game, we saw him on that tackle zone,

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>shoot the backside, a gap, actually made the play right there,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a tackle in the backfield. That was great to be

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>playing downhill like that and to make that tackle. But Paula,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was talking all week about the how,

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<v Speaker 1>how was Zavian Collins going to play right? Not the what,

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>not the tackle, not the past defended, not to us sack,

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>not an interception, not the stats, the how. That's what

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see in zaven Collins and the howl

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>stick in his face right on that fullback on those ISOs.

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>That to me filled me with a love in a respect. No, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one game, paul It's one game, one preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>and only a handful of plays. But guess what, it

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>sure beats the alternative. You know, before the game, I

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>had a chance to interview Cliff Kingsbury and I asked

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<v Speaker 1>him just describe the degree of difficulty, just the scope

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.239
<v Speaker 1>of the challenge of being a rookie middle linebacker in

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>charge of the entire defense, and he said, you know what,

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a notch behind being a rookie quarterback. That's how

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>demanding it is, and then we asked Cliff Kingsbury after

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the game for his thoughts and what he saw Outazavin

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Collins to work in progress, there's no doubt, but he's

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>once again he's a guy who works at it. You know,

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>he's asking for extra meeting time with coach Davis, coach

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Joseph pre med major there at Tulsa, so he has

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the IQ to get it done and he's been been

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>grinding on it for the last three months. And we'll

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>have our ups and downs there. That's a tough position

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to play, but we like where it's heading. And here's

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing it didn't you know, there's one thing to

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>be learning on the job. It's another thing to be

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>learning an entirely new position, which is what the ears

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>on a cardinal's face with, for example, Hassan Reddick. Yes,

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that's not Saven Collins right. Yes, there's gonna be moments

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>where he's full to your point, obviously, there's gonna be

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>some growing pains, but there are moments like we saw

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>on the second snap of the game, where he is

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<v Speaker 1>able to just read and react and flow straight to

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the football because he's been there and done that before.

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>See Paul I don't know if he noticed, but on

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>those iOS right there, a couple of times he knocked

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the dog out of the fullback. I mean that fullback.

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I know what it's like to get the dog nonnati.

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>That fullback's head snapped a couple of times, big time.

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>He stuck it in there and did a great job

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>at the point of attack. And you know what, PAULI,

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna play mike linebacker in the National Football

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>League and you don't do that, you're you're not capable

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of doing. You have no chance. You have no chance.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Everything else after that is you know what. I guess

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put you at the week side inside linebacker

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and just hope that you developed that way. And that

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is not Zaven Collins, not from what I saw, of

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>course against the Cowboys. And again I know it's one

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>preseason game, but Paulie, if you're willing to do it

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>like that to the degree in which Xavian Collins did,

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>it tells me he's so aware of the coaching he's receiving.

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Because that's what they wanted to see as well. Bill

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Davis told us that. And remember, the young man has

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the ability to deliver a blow his measurables. I go

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>back to the first rookie mini camp and the first

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>time I stood next to him down on that field

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that Cardinals packers say, I'm like, this guy's the middle linebacker.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>He is a legit six five, two sixty's. It's stunning

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. It is what middle linebackers

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>used to be for the most part, back when I played.

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes and You're right, Bill Davis told us on the

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage. He is a throwback, throwback linebacker. So now,

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>as for Marco Wilson, we mentioned him earlier. You heard

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>what Christian kirk said about Marco Wilson. Most impressive to

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirks so far, and I'm voting loosely, is that

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>he's rarely out of position, that he's always in position

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>to at least make it a contested catch. That you

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>just don't see rookies at often who aren't beat bad

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>or they don't leave someone wide open. And after he

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>went out and he got a lot of action in

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that first game, he was our postgame guest and the

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, here's Marco Wilson, his thoughts and

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>his performance his debut against Dallas I felt pretty good

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>about it. Definitely some things I could clean up about

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>my game, but overall went out there and felt confident,

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>just have fun. So it was it was cool to

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>go out there and get my feet wet for the

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>first time in the NFL. See to me, I look

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>at that secondary, I look at that cornerback room and

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>wolf to me, they have four corners. They do. They

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>have four legitimate corners, and Byron Murphy, Malcolm Buner, Robert

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Alford and now Marco Wilson. I think they're going into

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>this season with four corners they can count out. Yeah,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Paula, you know how much I love this

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>corner room. And one of the reasons why is because

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of how tough they are and what good tacklers they are.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Now listening again, you don't go out and pay corners

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<v Speaker 1>because are great tacklers, all right, You just don't do that, Paullie.

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But man again, it sure beats the alternative when you

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>got guys you feel pretty good about in terms of

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>being able to hold up in coverage that are dogs,

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that are guys that like to tackle. I think of

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Robert Alfred once again. Oh if somehow someway Robert Alford

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>makes it to the first game. If he gets into

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the Silks and actually is gonna play against the Tennessee Titans,

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna just lose my mind because this guy.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe in Robert Alford and what he has shown

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>us over the last three seasons here, and what we're

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>seeing once again is a guy in training camp that

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>is a one. That's what he is. He's got that

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of skill, he's got that kind of talents. Now

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.719
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, Malcolm Butler the competitor that he is,

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and you throwing Byron Murphy, who I think might be

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the most improved young guy on this team. And there's

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of young guys, PAULI. Yeah, there's a lot

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of young guys that are gonna step up and play.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the great news for the Arizona Cardinals as well. Yes,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>they've got some old guys. Yes, they got guys like j. J. Watt,

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>a guy that is thirty two years old. Yes, I

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>understand that there are some older guys, but man, they've

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>got some young guys that are getting ready I think

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to have really good seasons. Guys like Jalen Thompson, Richard Lawrence,

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons, Lucky Foe too. They got a lot of

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>young guys that I think are gonna step up and

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>let's see what kind of defense this becomes. And look,

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I gotta pump the brakes a little bit obviously. I

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>know I'm pretty bullish on the corners and what I

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, but it's not like they have that Jalen

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey type who's just gonna check O Julio Jones the

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>entire game and take him out of the game. I

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>get that. I just thinking in terms of aunts Joseph,

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>he has four corners I think he can count on

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and with a Marco Wilson who just spent four years

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>as a starter at Florida going against SEC competition, And

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>we also asked him in that interview about going up

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>against Ceedee Lamb a few snaps, and I mean it

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't pause him for a second. He's been going up

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>against elite talent ever since he was eighteen years old,

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and he was a true freshman starting at Florida. So

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what equips him uniquely to be a

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.160
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0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>com slash tickets. All right, how about the other side

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of the ball and a second year running back who's

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>making a big push next on the big red rage.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Eno Benchman takes a line drive kick three yards deep

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in his own and then zone out across the numbers

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>of ten to twenty. He's got a lane at the

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty and then's tackled at a thirty three yard line.

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Eno Benjamin. Nice vision and a first Eno Benjamin the

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>run up the mental He's got room of us the

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>forty to the fifty. He's been the near sideline at

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the forty, trying to turn on the jets at the thirty.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Inside that's twenty five and Eno Benjamin. How about that?

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>But the former a su running back first and goal

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>from the sixth to give his Dino Benjamin off the

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>left side. He's got plenty of room to run and

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>he faults into the end zone untouched. Carcal's touchdown as

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a calf to drive. After the takeaway by the defense,

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Eno Benjamin cashes it in for six and Asino. Benjamin,

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the seventh round pick last year, the first draft pick

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.760
<v Speaker 1>by the Arizona Cardinals out of Arizona State University since

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>seventh rounder Pat Tillman nineteen ninety eight. A guy eno

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Benjamin who had over three thousand all purpose yards during

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>his ASU career, and he did a little bit of everything.

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Did he not against Dallas last Friday night? Wolf? Yeah, No,

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>he did, Paula. I love the fact that he showed

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.959
<v Speaker 1>great vision, not only on that thirty eight yard run,

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but also his touchdown run. He showed a little patience,

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>a little hesitation, and great visions seeing the hole, seeing

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 1>the play and scoring a touchdown. To me, I thought,

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Benjamin made the team. Now that's just me,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Paulie looking at the roster, looking at O Benjamin, knowing

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the kind of player he is, knowing his brain, knowing

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he's very much like a Chase Edmonds. These guys hang out,

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they talk about football all the time, they watch tape together,

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and then you watch him play. He's a guy that's

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>buttoned up. And when I think of a buttoned up

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>football player, I think a Chase Edmonds, and I think

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that influence is starting to rub off on Eno Benjamin.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>But he showed some great vision and patience on that

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>touchdown run, in that thirty eight yard run, and I

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>think unless he goes out there and just totally doesn't

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>even try, I think he's made the team ball, you

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>know what. That's big And as you know better than anyone,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it's his role on teams that's a big factor in

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>him making the team, something he didn't do a year

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>ago when he was inactive for every single game and

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>they they undrafted running back Jonathan Ward was the guy

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>who saw action primarily on special teams. So now he's

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>returning kicks. He's also doing more for Jeff Rogers, a

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>special teams coach, and there he was on the Red

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Sea Report this week and Craig Griel who asked him

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>just about his comfort level in year two. Eno Benjamin

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>really just having a better understanding of what's going on,

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and not only that, what's expected. And so I've had

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>conversations with Com and com says he believes in me,

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and so from there us just kind of letting the

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>game come to meum and doing well whatever I'm asked

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to do to the best of my ability. About that,

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>how about sitting down with a gym in the off

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>season and asking him, Okay, give me a to do list,

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>give me a checklist. How can I be that guy

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>for you and make a difference and make this team? Yeah?

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>You know what, Well, one of the things you can

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>do is actually return kickoffs the way that you know

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Benjamin did as well against the Cowboys. PAULI, you want

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about vance Joseph running into the darkness? Right? Yeah,

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>he's stoked. Sure, he's stoked it. He looked so good

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>on his kickoff returns. And it's funny because I was

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>talking to Jeff Rogers about that very thing, the special

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>team's coordinator of course for the Arizona Cardels, and he

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>was saying, they call it running into the smoke, running

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>into smoke, Bally all right, So it's the same analogy

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>right there. Whatever it is, you know, Benjamin did it

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and does it. And because of that with the production

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, knowing the brain that he has and knowing

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that he will run into the darkness slash smoke, that

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, thanks, I think he's made this team. And

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>guess what if I'm Cliff Kingsbury and I don't have

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>to jeopardize a Rondel Moore or a Christian Kirk in

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the return game. That's big, you know. I think I

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>think that fortifies his chances of even dressing on game

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>day if he's that guy. Yes. Yeah, Speaking of running backs,

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>James Connor is back off the cover list, and by

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the way, more COVID news as Jordan Phillips and Justin

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Pew reveal that they have both tested positive despite being

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>fully vaccinated. So we'll see where that goes. You know,

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Andy Isabella is not going to play tomorrow night, he's

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>on the COVID list. But the return of James Connor,

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>someone we did not see last Friday Night, we figure

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>we will see tomorrow night. And Wolf, how fired up

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>are you to see this six foot one, two hundred

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and thirty pound plus guy, especially maybe if they get

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>around there the goal line, Boom, here comes James Connor. Yeah, Paul, really,

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, first of all, I think they're gonna be interchangeable,

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the running backs in this offense. I don't think it's

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just going to be shot yardage where you're gonna see

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>James Connor. I don't think it's just gonna be third

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>n obvious where you see Chase Edmonds. I think they're

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna mix and match these guys. And the reason why

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>is because, once again, you don't want to be predictable

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>as your offense. You don't want to say, okay, and

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>this personnela group, this is what they like to run

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and in this personnel group when Chase Edmonds is it,

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>this is what you don't want to be so predictable.

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's something that NFL teams work on their

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>tendencies all the time. So yes, I'm interested to see

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>James Connor and want to see him play Paulie. I

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>want to see how many times quarterback is under center

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>once again. I want to see Kyler Murray if he plays,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>how many reps he actually gets. I want to see

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>what corner is going to line up over Tyree Hill first,

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>if in fact, Tyreek Hill goes. I want to see

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>these chief starters. And I don't know how long that

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid is going to play guys like Tyree Hill

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and Travis Kelsey and you know, Patrick Mahomes. I have

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.479
<v Speaker 1>no idea how long. I can't see him playing them

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a half I can't, but man, if he does, I

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>think this is gonna be some good work for some

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of the Cardinals players as well, And don't we go

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 1>right back to those young linebackers, don't we go right

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>back to Zavian Collins and Isaiah Simmons. And how invaluable

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>this might be if Andy Reid makes good what he

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>told the media that he's gonna play most of his

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>starters most of the first half, especially that offensive line.

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>They have five new starters on that offensive line, so

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 1>he wants to get those guys not only in the game,

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>but get them them some chemistry with Patrick nah absolutely,

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.439
<v Speaker 1>and you know that means, hey, get some chemistry. Let's

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>run the ball in the preseason. That's something I think

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid does a lot as well. He runs the

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 1>ball much more in the preseason that he does in

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>the regular season. And for good reason, I might in

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>He's got Patrick Mahobs, Drivis Kelsey at Tyreek Hill. I mean,

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I think we all understand why they like to actually

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball, but I want to see the physicality

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>on the line of scrimmage like it was against the

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. And again I realized you didn't have all

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>your starters out there, but man, I thought the physicality

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the ball for the Arizona Cardinals

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side and the offensive side I thought

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 1>was good. They seemed to control the line of scrimmage.

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I want to see that once again

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's the mentality this team needs to develop. All Right,

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>we talked about flashing and lacking. The Cardinals are going

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to be lacking basically their first five top defensive lineman.

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Last week it was their top six. How big a

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>deal is this to you? Without JJ Watt, Jordan Phillips,

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Zack Allens should be back, with Chard Lawrence, Lecky Foe

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>two should be back. But you know Corey Peters whether

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>he's ready to go, and Chandler Jones isn't gonna go.

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Give me your thoughts on that. Yeah, well, I think

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>we should ask Zaven Collins how he feels. I mean,

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>they got to remember Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins. They're

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the guys that are exposed when you've got guys that

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>might not be as good with their hand on the

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage, firing off the ball, trying to keep

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen off of those inside linebackers. So they're the

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>ones that really suffer the most on this And listen

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought once again that the Cardinal defensive line competed

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 1>last week. I just you know me, Paully, It's just

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a situation where I can't get all jacked up because

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of the preseason. I know that it's the only football

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that we have, and that's sure beats the alternative. But

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't drawing any type of conclusions or comparisons, especially

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>based on one season game. That's a dangerous, dangerous art.

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, there's opportunity when that happens. A

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Michael Dogbeat, for example, graded out very high. David Perry,

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the no stackle me called, we called his name a

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>ton I know he's got the coach's eye. You have

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a Greg Dorch who made that unbelievable physical catch in

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>traffic and filed it up with an Odell type one

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>handed grab to start the practice week. He has definitely

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>caught the coach's eye. So as all these veterans are

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>out for one reason or another, it creates opportunity for

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>some of these young guys to make a run from

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<v Speaker 1>the depths of the depth chart and perhaps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make a serious be it for the final fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to say, George, I love that Dave.

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