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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Betting Pros NFL podcast. I am your host, Dan Harris.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris. Adie

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Speaker 1: with me is Matt Perrault, host of the Daily Juice podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can find him on Twitter at Sports Talk Matt.

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Speaker 2: Matt.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Hi, NFL football? It's here. I can't believe it's here,

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Speaker 2: but it's here.

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Speaker 1: I said it on our Fantasy Pros Football podcast this morning.

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Speaker 1: My wife told me that I just let out a

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Speaker 1: big giggle, like I turned on the TV and I

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Speaker 1: just giggled, and I was like, Okay, that's fine. It

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Speaker 1: was amazing, And I don't know about you, It didn't

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Speaker 1: feel that weird last night. Like I didn't really notice

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Speaker 1: that there weren't that many people in the stands and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that felt normal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what I equated it to was like

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Speaker 2: a blowout game in the fourth quarter. We're like, we've

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Speaker 2: seen games where guys are playing and there's nobody there,

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Speaker 2: or there's like eighteen thousand there, and you know, chief

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Speaker 2: fans did their best to be heard and yelled and

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Speaker 2: yelling and screaming. So yeah, I mean, I've said this

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Speaker 2: since the the you know, sports pandemic has started. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to the UFC events on TV, I don't

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Speaker 2: notice fans not being there. You know, occasionally I will.

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Speaker 2: In basketball, it looks like a two K game to me,

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Speaker 2: so it's like, you know, it looks normal to me

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Speaker 2: watching it on TV. I think if I was there,

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Speaker 2: I might say it's different. But from a television viewership perspective, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, look, it's sports on TV. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Other than Andy Reid's you know, welding mask that he

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Speaker 1: basically was wearing the entire time, you would't have noticed

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Speaker 1: the difference. I also felt really good about cashing in

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Speaker 1: on my Chiefs plus one hundred and one points bet

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Speaker 1: that we got on that special offer from draftings, which

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Speaker 1: is why you want to listen to us and listen

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Speaker 1: to maths podcasts The Daily Juice, which is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite listens fifteen minute podcasts first thing in the

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Speaker 1: morning every day. Got a ton of offers when they

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Speaker 1: come out, so that was one of them. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: plus one hundred and one points not a joke at

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Speaker 1: minus one ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked to Johnny Avello from DraftKings on my

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Speaker 2: radio show, and he told me that they did ten

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Speaker 2: million dollars. Yeah, that was their handle for that game,

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Speaker 2: which is playoff game esque for DraftKings. It was their

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Speaker 2: biggest NFL game. But he's young, he's been around for

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Speaker 2: a long time, so but ten million is a pretty

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Speaker 2: good handle for one game for DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you bet. Okay. So this is a little later

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Speaker 1: in the week and we're going to be doing it.

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Speaker 1: We're usually going to record on Wednesday, which is what

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Speaker 1: we had planned to do. It was my fault. We

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Speaker 1: had a crazy schedule. Matt is fitting this in in

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Speaker 1: between moving, which he is doing the second. We are

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Speaker 1: done with this, So let me break down here what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little bit on the weekly show.

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Speaker 1: We've got something kind of cool. Matt and I are

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Speaker 1: doing a picks contest together over at DraftKings. The DraftKings

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Speaker 1: Pick Them Championship first prize, a million dollars guaranteed. You

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Speaker 1: have to make five picks every week except for two.

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Speaker 1: You get to take two weeks off from weeks one

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Speaker 1: through sixteen. It's a little weird. So there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some game theory on there. Separately, Matt is doing a

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Speaker 1: separate big money picks contest. So we're we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: breaking down our choices from us as a team, and

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Speaker 1: Matt is also we're not going to necessarily agree. I'm

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Speaker 1: not necessarily going to agree with what Matt is doing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I will, we'll see. But Matt, tell everybody about

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Speaker 1: your contest that you're in. I will tell everybody a

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Speaker 1: little bit about DraftKings and then we will get to it.

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Speaker 2: Sure. So I'm in the Circa Million and that is

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Speaker 2: a three million dollar guarantee which has seen a ton

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Speaker 2: of publicity and a lot of attention here in Vegas

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Speaker 2: because of that overlay the three million dollars being guaranteed

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Speaker 2: against the spread. The difference between the Circa and the

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Speaker 2: DraftKings contest. DraftKings does not make you enter all five

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Speaker 2: Circa does so. If I want to play the THURSDA

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Speaker 2: Night game like last night, which I didn't play in

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Speaker 2: the Circa. We bet it for the Daily Juice, but

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Speaker 2: not with the Circa. You had to put in all

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Speaker 2: the picks for Sunday, and you just can't do that

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Speaker 2: given the uncertainty today in sports and with COVID nineteen

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Speaker 2: popped up today for games. It's a bad move. It's

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Speaker 2: a losing move to play Thursdays in the Circa. But

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Speaker 2: for DraftKings they let you put one in and then

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Speaker 2: four on Sundays. So circa rules are a bit more

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Speaker 2: restrictive than what we're seeing with the DK rules.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can also get them in on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: I think Circa locks on Saturday, Matt correct.

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Speaker 2: Right, three pm Pacific time on Saturday, right.

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Speaker 1: So you get a little extra and you don't have

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Speaker 1: to put them in the DraftKings contest all at once.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want it, you can submit them sort

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Speaker 1: of as you go. And again it's a little weird

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Speaker 1: because it's only fourteen of sixteen weeks. You get to

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Speaker 1: a tough one makes for a lot of game theory.

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Speaker 1: Matt's going to go all through the seventeen weeks of

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Speaker 1: the NFL season, So that's what we're going to be doing.

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Speaker 1: So Matt, why don't we start like this? And there

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Speaker 1: may be, by the way, different odds because I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the Circa odds are versus the DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: Oh they're different, Yeah, they are different.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, So why don't we get started here at

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Speaker 1: your Circa Sports pick?

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Speaker 1: By the way, Mat, I legitimately like he sent a

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Speaker 1: couple of games that he's feeling. I agree with two

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Speaker 1: but we're legitimately going to be working at our picks

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. So welcome to a little you know,

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It's gonna be a lot of fun. So, Matt,

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Speaker 1: but you feel confident on you said at least four

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Speaker 1: of your five picks over at the circle, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, we can start with the Cardinals here

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Speaker 2: catching six and a half on the road at the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, and I think there's a good shot

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Speaker 2: believe DraftKings is seven right for that game?

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Speaker 2: Next pick is the Falcons at home against the Saints.

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Speaker 2: I am a big contrarian. Better sorry, sorry, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is another one where I I would lean

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Speaker 1: Atlanta just because it's such a public play right now

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Speaker 1: defensive injuries that they seem to have every year, but man,

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Speaker 1: it is just so incredibly difficult for me to bet

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Speaker 1: against Russell Wilson in what amounts to a pick them right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically what it is, because he just

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Speaker 1: makes them better than they are. He always does, and

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, it's not a terrible matchup.

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Speaker 1: So that one again, putting that one to the side.

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Speaker 2: My favorite play of the entire weekend is the Saints

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Speaker 2: minus three miles three and a half. I don't really

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Speaker 2: mind either one three and a half. Clearly it is

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Speaker 1: Is it three and a half?

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Speaker 2: By the way in the circa, it's three and a

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Speaker 2: half in the circle, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's the same. It's the same with DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: So here's my theory on this. You're talking about the

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Speaker 2: best team in the football in the Saints, the best continuity.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about a defense for this team. Look, I

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Speaker 2: understand that you could hang all last year on James

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Speaker 2: Winston if you want, but I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not hanging the entire season on Winston's turnovers and picks.

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Speaker 2: They had issues last year. This is the Saints. I

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Speaker 2: know there's a contract question with Kamara. But this is

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Speaker 2: the same thing I thought last night with the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: Like everyone's looking for a reason to bet the dog

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Speaker 2: Here, Titans Monday Night minus two and a half on

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Speaker 1: Courtland's also doubtful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like this one too, and for basically

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Speaker 1: that's four. But you mentioned a different game to me

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Speaker 2: That off of it? A not off? But these Division

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Speaker 2: the games I'm debating right now are the Bills minus

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Speaker 2: And in the Draft Kings contest, the Bengals are plus

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that. That would that would get me off

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Speaker 2: that game? Where? I mean, this is Joe Burrow, this

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Speaker 1: Okay? The first thing is to be clear the consensus line. Actually, Now,

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Speaker 2: I sometimes I take flyer plays. I mean sometimes for me,

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Speaker 2: I just don't I don't question the books, and I

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Speaker 2: just say there's a reason why the Bengals are plus three,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. Now again it DraftKings, it's three and a half.

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Speaker 2: Said it's three a't circa it's three.

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Speaker 2: If that it does matter to me. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: pound this team. It's the Bengals, you know.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I remember by the way back?

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Speaker 1: Okay, those are the ones will will lock in.

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Speaker 2: We need three more plays here, correct.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'd be willing to go Bill's six and a half.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about it? There's a couple of

432
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Speaker 2: paralt isms that you're gonna learn about Dan as we

433
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Speaker 2: go through. Boy, I do not play five and a half.

434
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Speaker 1: Ever, that's a number that you just don't play.

435
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Speaker 2: Don't play it's a dead number. It means the books

436
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Speaker 2: don't know. Anytime you see a book put up a

437
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Speaker 2: five and a half, they don't know that number. That

438
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Speaker 2: number is six is a key number, seven is a

439
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 2: key number. Three is a key number. Four to key number.

440
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Speaker 2: Five is a dead number. Yeah, five and a half

441
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 2: they don't know. And when they don't know and they

442
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,439
Speaker 2: just put that up, that's literally them. I think, in

443
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 2: my opinion, they're raising the white flag and just say

444
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna put a number up that the professionals won't bet.

445
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 2: So I see five and a half. Look, it doesn't

446
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 2: mean the Giants can't win and cover. It just means

447
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 2: that those that's a trap game and you can get

448
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 2: beat by the hook so easily with that last second

449
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 2: field goal. I've seen it too much in these contests

450
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,159
Speaker 2: when it comes to five and a half, that is

451
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 2: a really dangerous number. And there's two of them. There's

452
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Speaker 2: the Eagles and at five and a half and the

453
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Speaker 2: Giants at five and a half, which both games I'm

454
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Speaker 2: a no play on.

455
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Speaker 1: So those games are just off. Okay, that's fine. How

456
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Speaker 1: do you feel about the Bears getting two and a

457
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Speaker 1: half against the Lions.

458
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Speaker 2: See here, the Lions are the professional team again, every

459
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Speaker 2: pro I know. Yeah, they love the Lions. They have

460
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: bet the Lions over, they've hammered. But Golladay's out, okay,

461
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Speaker 2: And so Golladay's not playing, and they're gonna get swift backs.

462
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Speaker 2: But he's a rookie running back. So I mean we

463
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Speaker 2: saw clyde Us Hilaire have a big knight. But I

464
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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think VI ties out as well. I mean they

466
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Speaker 1: they I don't know, man.

467
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Speaker 2: This, but I hate Tribitsky with a flaming as much

468
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Speaker 2: as I hate Zach Taylor. I hate Tribitsky. So you

469
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Speaker 2: want to go on the road and late and you

470
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Speaker 2: want to take okay, I mean it's on the road.

471
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Speaker 1: It's on the road in name only, right, I mean.

472
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Speaker 2: Still on the road. It's still indoors.

473
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Speaker 1: Still don't it's still indoors. That is fine. I don't

474
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Speaker 1: like Marky, but I mean he was as bad as

475
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Speaker 1: a quarterback could be last year and they went eight

476
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Speaker 1: to eight, right, And I think you know, if they

477
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Speaker 1: defensively is really what they're going to be able to

478
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Speaker 1: do without Galladay, you know, and I do. I think

479
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is doubtful, so I think that is a problem.

480
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Speaker 1: But Khalil Knack's going to be there. Their offensive line

481
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Speaker 1: isn't that good. So for me, I would take the

482
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Speaker 1: Bears and pick them. I think they're going to win

483
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Speaker 1: this game. But okay, that's fine. Let's think about it now.

484
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Speaker 1: You don't like the Rams getting two and a half

485
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Speaker 1: from the Cowboys, right, you like them only I.

486
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Speaker 2: Would rather like I would rather have the three, the

487
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Speaker 2: security of the three.

488
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Speaker 1: Of course.

489
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Speaker 2: I just I think the Cowboys. This is one of

490
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Speaker 2: these like really public years for the Cowboys. Yeah, and

491
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: everyone's like the Cowboys are gonna be outstanding, and I

492
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Speaker 2: just don't. I don't know. I mean, I just I

493
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 2: could be wrong about him. But I don't see a

494
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 2: ten win team out of the NFC East, any of them. Okay,

495
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a ten win team in that division.

496
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Speaker 2: I think that the Cowboys go nine and seven. This

497
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: is a game that they clearly need, but it's on

498
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Speaker 2: the road. And here's my thing with Jared Goff. If

499
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Speaker 2: you look at his home splits, the dude is so

500
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: much better at home. Why he can hear his head coach.

501
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Speaker 2: His head coach can tell him what to do. No

502
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Speaker 2: silent counts. He's more comfortable this is a home game

503
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Speaker 2: in week number one, without any concern of not being

504
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Speaker 2: able to be told what to do. I don't know.

505
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Speaker 2: I think McVeigh I know a whole hard knocks curse,

506
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Speaker 2: but it's a different type of year for hard knocks. Yeah,

507
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: I do like I like the Rents plus three, though

508
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Speaker 2: the two and a half does scare me.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it scares me. I would be willing to do

510
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Speaker 1: it because I do think that there's a chance that

511
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Speaker 1: the Rams are going to be able to win this

512
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Speaker 1: game out right. But that let's put that aside. How

513
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Speaker 1: do you feel about the Ravens links having a half

514
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Speaker 1: to the Browns?

515
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: See, this is where I like this because it's eight

516
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Speaker 2: in the circa, so I prefer this. So this is

517
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Speaker 2: a play I like a lot raven I.

518
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Speaker 1: Will do this one, by the way, if you were

519
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Speaker 1: this is one where I've been waiting. I have a

520
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: couple of games where I'm like, if Matt gives me

521
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Speaker 1: the go ahead on this, I'm just firing it. I'm

522
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Speaker 1: not putting it in earnything, but I'll fire it up.

523
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Speaker 1: If you're good with the Ravens laying seven and a

524
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Speaker 1: half against the Browns, I will take that. I think,

525
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Speaker 1: by the way, they're gonna be I think they're gonna

526
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Speaker 1: be mad. I think they're gonna be really mad at

527
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Speaker 1: how things ended last year. I think they're gonna come

528
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Speaker 1: out and make a statement, and they've got all the

529
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Speaker 1: continuity in the world what we love early on. I

530
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Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a big one for them.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Dobbins is gonna have a monster year,

532
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: much like Clyde des Hilaire for the for the Chiefs.

533
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Speaker 2: I think Dobbins out of Ohio State running behind Lamar

534
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Speaker 2: Jackson that offensive line. I think the two guys together,

535
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Speaker 2: their stable of running backs are really deep. And one

536
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Speaker 2: thing I like about the fact that they're a run

537
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Speaker 2: first team. If they get up early, if they get

538
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Speaker 2: up big here, which I think they could on the Browns,

539
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: they're gonna run the clock out where the Chiefs on

540
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Speaker 2: Thursday night, they just were kind of going through the

541
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Speaker 2: motions and giving the ball back to the and I

542
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: kept on sweating it, going, oh my gosh, this minus

543
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Speaker 2: ten is not going to hit because they keep on

544
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Speaker 2: giving this, and then O'Brien did me some favors, missing

545
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: in two point conversion and then kicking an extra point,

546
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Speaker 2: and I was.

547
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Speaker 1: Like, hell, hell, thank.

548
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: You, Bill O'Brien, appreciate that you help out, and then

549
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: we didn't ultimately didn't need it because of the role

550
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: that got kicked Andy Reid with a bleep you field

551
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Speaker 2: goal at the end of the game. But I think

552
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: they'll run the clock out, so there's not that back

553
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 2: door fear here with the Browns as much as there

554
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: was with the Texans. So even though you have the

555
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Speaker 2: hook there, seven would be better. But I'm comfortable at

556
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Speaker 2: seven and a half.

557
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Speaker 1: And I forgot who it was, maybe David Cocher or

558
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Speaker 1: if that's how you pronounce his name, who was on

559
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: last year, who just was like, man, I you know,

560
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't mind hammering Harbor because Harbaugh doesn't just want

561
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Speaker 1: to win bat that he wants to take your heart.

562
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Speaker 2: Out, especially week one, right because like everyone's going to

563
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: compare them to the Chiefs and what the Chiefs did,

564
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Speaker 2: and like all of a sudden, the Chiefs are running

565
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: the football, so you know the harball is gonna be like, okay, fine,

566
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Speaker 2: you want to run the football. Watch this and we're

567
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: gonna run the football real And look, I I just

568
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: new coach. I know the offense is a work in progress.

569
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: I do think OBJ has a beast as a bounce

570
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: back year for this team, But I'm just not that

571
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: sold on Baker Mayfield. And I'm just I don't like

572
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: the fact that rookie coaches coming in taking over during

573
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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen pandemic time. Is is smart week one?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's fine, Okay. I think we're probably on

575
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Speaker 1: different sides of this one. So that's why I'm kind

576
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Speaker 1: of saving it here to the end. How do you

577
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Speaker 1: feel about the Raiders laying three and a half to

578
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Speaker 1: the Panthers, which is what it is in DCA. I

579
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Speaker 1: don't know what it is in the circa.

580
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Speaker 2: It's three in the circa. I don't like it at

581
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: three and a half at all.

582
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Speaker 1: But you you don't like it from the Raiders point

583
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Speaker 1: of view?

584
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Speaker 2: Right? From a Raiders point of view, yeah, right.

585
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: See, I kind of like the Panthers wide.

586
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: If you like the Panthers getting the hook, there's significant.

587
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: Three and a half is significant and if I wouldn't

588
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: play it any other way. But the Panthers at plus

589
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: three and a half. And look, if you like Joe

590
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Speaker 2: Brady and you think he's going to be able to

591
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Speaker 2: transform Bridgewater into you know, you know, a stellar quarterback

592
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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey come in. I mean, can he single handedly

593
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: beat the Raiders potentially? Yeah, Raiders defense gets some big questions.

594
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: My question is on the other side where you're losing

595
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 2: a ton of talent for that pack, that the that

596
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: Panthers defense, and a ton of leadership off that Panthers

597
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: defense from last year, and you've got weapons everywhere for

598
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: this for this team, for the Raiders. So I think

599
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: it's going to be a shootout. Yeah.

600
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Speaker 1: By the way, that's what I like.

601
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Speaker 2: I like the over in the game. But we're not

602
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Speaker 2: playing with sides only here. So if I was gonna

603
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: bet it, if I had to, I would take the

604
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: three and a half. But I mean three with the Raiders.

605
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: I do think there's a decent shot that it comes

606
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: down to a last second field goal and the Raiders win.

607
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fair. I think if I were to,

608
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Speaker 1: you know, go one way, it would be the Panthers

609
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Speaker 1: getting the hook. And if you were like, yeah, Dan,

610
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Speaker 1: I really like that I'd be willing to make that

611
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: a pick. I think we touched on every game, and

612
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Speaker 1: then we'll we'll decide.

613
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: Well, we haven't talked about there's a couple there on

614
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Speaker 2: my team.

615
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: Where's my That's the only game I think we haven't

616
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Speaker 1: talked about. That's what I'm getting to. Okay, the team,

617
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: I would like to know how you feel about this.

618
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: The Patriots laying six and a half to the Dolls.

619
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Speaker 1: I think we have at least touched on every other game.

620
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: That's the one. Patriots laying six and a half to

621
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins.

622
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I teased it, so a daily Juice play was

623
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: Patriots teased down to minus five, minus half a point

624
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: two point five and then taking the Cardinals from seven

625
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: and teasing it up to thirteen. Okay, so that's a

626
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: daily juice play that I gave out, and I think

627
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: the Patriots win, But if I had to bet it,

628
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: I probably would take the Dolphins. Six and a half

629
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Speaker 2: is a little The Patriots are gonna play a bunch

630
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Speaker 2: of games by three points. They're gonna win seventeen fourteen

631
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: a lot, so six and a half feels DeVante Parker.

632
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: The reason why I probably wouldn't play it is because

633
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: I don't know about DeVante Parker yet.

634
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: If he's playing, it sounds like he's gonna play. I mean,

635
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: whether or not he'll be limited at all, but it

636
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: does sound like he is good to go.

637
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's playing, I'm comfortable laying the six and

638
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: a half. I mean started taking sorry, sorry, started taking

639
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: the six and a half with the Dolphins. I mean

640
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: I actually I would much rather at seven, but I've

641
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: been So I'll pose this to you. So do you

642
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: think what is the win total for the Patriots? What

643
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: do you think? What do you think they'll be?

644
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably wind up going nine and seven.

645
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're very okay. So on my radio show,

646
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: and I was literally throwing this out there, I said,

647
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Speaker 2: anyone who wants to take this because everyone was saying

648
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Speaker 2: six and ten. I've heard six and ten from like

649
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: a mix and ten. Yep, I've heard it from a

650
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: million people, six and ten six. And I said, fine,

651
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: I said, I will lay one hundred dollars on anybody

652
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Speaker 2: who wants to take this. I'll take the action on

653
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Speaker 2: anybody one hundred dollars. Patriots to win more than six games,

654
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: and no one wants it. It's not even the people

655
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Speaker 2: who say six and ten. Even the people who are

656
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: saying six and ten in the media. Lum Marloney from

657
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: WI in Boston. I was going back and forth on

658
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: Twitter with Lou and he's saying six and ten. I said, fine, Lou,

659
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: let's do it. He goes, well, Vegas is eight and

660
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: a half at Vegas. I'll take that. I said, no,

661
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: that's not what you said. I said six and ten.

662
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: And so I think the Patriots, I think you're right.

663
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: I think they're eight and eight, nine and seven. Yeah,

664
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Speaker 2: And I think it has a lot to do with

665
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Speaker 2: the division because they have four wins. They have four

666
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Speaker 2: wins in the division sitting there. They need three more

667
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: wins to get to seven. Okay, they're not going to

668
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: be a six and ten football team. I don't. They

669
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: may not make the playoffs. But I think the games

670
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: like this, these are the games that the Patriots win

671
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: on a last second field goal. You know that they

672
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: pull something out defensive, makes a play or something around the.

673
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Speaker 1: Wad, especially early in the year, right, because you always

674
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: look at the Patriots in the beginning of the year

675
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh man, for like ten years who

676
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: are like, I don't know, they don't look that good.

677
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they're two and two to start, and

678
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: then they just wrap off twelve wins in a row

679
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: like in the beginning of the year. I feel like

680
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: Belichick is like, let me try this, let me try this,

681
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: let me see what works here, let me do this.

682
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: And so they win these close games early on in

683
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: the year. And that's why I look, you know, if

684
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Speaker 1: you're if you're good with it, I will roll with

685
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: Miami getting six and a half.

686
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Week one, given how heavy that six and

687
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: a half point feel is, I think it could be

688
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: a pretty popular play. But you're in New Hampshire and

689
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: with the DraftKings contest, I feel like we're going against everyone,

690
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: so we have a chance to get some noise like that.

691
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: That's right, that's a good call. Ye, it's a good call.

692
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: You you're going against whatever one's gonna go ahead and play.

693
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: And look, we're trying to obviously can this is a

694
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: contest here, so write some game theory when it goes

695
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: into it. We're not petting any money on this, so

696
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm comfortable at six and a half to take.

697
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: It, Okay, So for our contest. Do you correct me

698
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong? It looks like we've locked in four

699
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Ravens laying seven and a half to the Browns. Correct,

700
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Saints laying three and a half to the Bucks. Yep,

701
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: Titans laying two and a half to the Broncos.

702
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

703
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: Dolphin's getting six and a half from the Patriots.

704
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: So it comes down to the Bills and the Cardinals.

705
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Bills and the Cardinals unless you like the Chargers or

706
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: are you off it because it's three and.

707
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: A half, And yeah, I'm off at three and a half.

708
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: It's yeah, right, I mean I would take the Bengals personally,

709
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: if I was gonna go on that.

710
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Side, Okay, I would take all right, Yeah, so let's stick. Yeah,

711
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: So you I know you really like the Cards, Hans,

712
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: this is your pick. That's the one that you feel

713
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: strongly about.

714
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Hi, I like the Cardinals a lot. I mean, I mean, look,

715
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: the only problem with six and a half lay it.

716
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: It's the same reason why you know we just got

717
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: into it with the Patriots and the Dolphins. It's it's

718
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: a big number. This is a divisional game. The Bills

719
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: have a divisional game as well, right, But I'm just

720
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. I mean, my gosh, like you hate the

721
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: Bills so much and I hate Josh Allen so much.

722
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: Are aware though, of like what the Jets look like

723
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: at this point, right like once Jamal Adams was traded,

724
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: right like, like you know how bad this defense is

725
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: going to be, right like their cornerbacks are not going

726
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: to be able to stop Stefan Diggs and John Brown.

727
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: He just has to get it somewhere in the same vicinity,

728
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You don't got to worry

729
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: about being like, man, let me get these sixty yard passes, right,

730
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: just get it anywhere there's gonna be nowhere near either

731
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: one of these guys. They can still stop the run,

732
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: even without CJ. Moseley, they can still stop the run.

733
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: And so maybe that you know that they're not going

734
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: to be able to run quite as well. But again,

735
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: even you know the Jets offense, who are we throwing

736
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: the ball into?

737
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: Like, but that's the one thing about this pick. You're

738
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: a Jets fan, correct, So you could handicap your team

739
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: as well as anybody because you watch these guys. You

740
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: suffer through these games. So if you tell me that

741
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: you feel much more confident on Buffalo blowing out the

742
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: Jets that you do the Cardinals keeping the game close.

743
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm willing to go with you. Man.

744
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: All Right, this is tough. This is really tough. I

745
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about this because I'm trying

746
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: to be objective and you know, the Jets. I don't

747
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: want to add, you know, to to basically be like,

748
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: all right, I'm the tiebreaker, let's see where we go.

749
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: And I wind up rooting against the Jets, going to

750
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: really make me upset, you know, to do it. And

751
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, the more I've I've kind of dug into

752
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals game because you sent it. And that was

753
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: the one where I was like, Okay, let me think

754
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: about this, because at first I was like, I don't know.

755
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: I really like the forty nine ers, let me see,

756
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: and they have so much continuity, but again, they have

757
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: a ton of injury to their receiving depth. I mean

758
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: that is part of what it is. And yeah, I

759
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: mean you do have you know, you have the same system. Obviously, Murray,

760
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: I think is going to be much better in year two.

761
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Really the only big change is the addition of DeAndre Hopkins,

762
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: and that doesn't really matter that much right, all right, Maddie,

763
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna go. We're gonna go with the Cardinals,

764
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: all right. I like it because it was the first

765
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: one you came up with. We're gonna go with the Cardinals.

766
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spare myself the horror of having to root

767
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: against the Jets and then watching them.

768
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: Just for the record, the Bills and the Cardinals both

769
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: will be in my circle place, so okay, they're both

770
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: these picks. I'm comfortable.

771
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: So you get to root against the Jets, that's fine. Yeah,

772
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spare myself a little bit. I'm gonna spare

773
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: myself from the Jets last second meaningless touchdown to lose,

774
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: right that bit? All right, guys. So those are our

775
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: official draft kings. Pick them championship plays. It's gonna be

776
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens lank seven and a half to the Browns,

777
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: Saints lank three and a half to the Bucks, the

778
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Titans lank two and a half to the Broncos, the

779
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins getting six and a half from the Patriots, and

780
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals getting six and a half from the four

781
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: nine ers. I like it, Matt. It's a good mix

782
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: of favorites and underdogs. I feel good about this. Are

783
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: you ready to begin our quest?

784
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: Now? I'm so ready, and I'm so interested to see

785
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: how many entries wind up actually in this thing for

786
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: the draft Kings Pro Football pick them. But it's remarkable

787
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: on the East coast see here in Vegas. This is

788
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: part of our culture. It is a new thing in

789
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, New Jersey and West Virginia for the most part.

790
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: So I'm very curious to see how we do. I

791
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: mean that there's gonna be a lot of newbies here

792
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: in this tournament.

793
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: And again again, three hundred and seventy six entries. That's

794
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: it right now.

795
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean, but Johnny Vella told me today that they

796
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: expect a rush, so as you guys know, in the

797
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: fantasy side of things, to offer free rolls kind of

798
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: the way that they go. And I mean they they

799
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: lost ten million dollars on that game on Thursday. Okay,

800
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: I gave away ten million dollars a free roll of

801
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: free money to the people who bet the Chiefs plus

802
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: one hundred and one. So losing a million might not

803
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: that be that big of a deal to them, or

804
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: two million? They may not care?

805
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: All right, Well, look follow us both on Twitter at

806
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: sports Talk Matt, I'm at Dan Harris Ades. Follow us

807
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: as we sweat this long. Hopefully we get off to

808
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: a big start. Last year, I believe I went one

809
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: in four in the opening week and then rattled off

810
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: like good, a five and oh, a five in and

811
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: like a.

812
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: Four and one or something like that.

813
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: So follow us, all right, Matt, You've got to move,

814
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: my friends, So go get go, get your stuff done again.

815
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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for stopping by. We'll be back every week,

816
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: a little earlier. Next week, as you know, we get

817
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: rid of the conflicts, and we'll be giving you we'll

818
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: be breaking down what happened this week, and we'll be

819
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: giving you our five picks coming into next week. Until then,

820
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Speaker 1: have a great week, Enjoy your Sunday, NFL Football,