WEBVTT - Warmest Regards, The Leopard: Betty Grable Extortion Letters

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and A.

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth five, six, seven, and eight was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just working on some chair dancer routine.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was doing with deep stretches over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>With the leg warmers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like those? Are this pink? Or would you

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<v Speaker 2>eat more? Future? What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>They're black?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I don't have my glasses on, So I got

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<v Speaker 2>a question for you. Besides it's about your lovely leg warmers.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly do. Do you like baked potatoes? No? Stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I have a fun fact about the history of

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<v Speaker 3>baked potatoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's pretend Elizabeth. I know a lot about big potato.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like them? Do I like them? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You like a good baked potato?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean like if it's like dressed. Well, I mean, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny you should say it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up eating a lot of them because my

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<v Speaker 2>mother gave us a vegetarian diet, so we had bake

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<v Speaker 2>and she's Irish and Catholic, so we had baked potatoes

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<v Speaker 2>like twice a week. Sure, So I got I know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways to dress up but to baked potato.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know? But I can also, I mean it

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<v Speaker 3>would just butter dress a baked potatoes. No, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know in the UK they call them a jacket potato.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times they put like corn on it.

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen that, Like you done that cut off the

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<v Speaker 3>corn from a corn cob.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they like boil the corn or no? But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like did they turn it into like a mash?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just corn on their corn on pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>Corn kernels, Like I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Not like a corn pone or a polenta. Anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting off track here. So jacket potatoes in the UK

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<v Speaker 3>are baked potatoes over here. And I've talked before about

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<v Speaker 3>Aldi they have a special this time of year on

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<v Speaker 3>jacket potatoes. Yeah, because they say it's jacket potato season.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, oh, kind of cuffing season.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, it's more sweat weather. A companies sweat a

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<v Speaker 3>weather and so they have come up with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they have all those cool products in the center aisle.

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<v Speaker 3>They have like well they have a new new thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't buy it in the store.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's only online. It's in the center aisle.

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<v Speaker 3>One steaks. You have to enter on social media to

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<v Speaker 3>get purchase.

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<v Speaker 2>Necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a limited edition jacket potato jacket. So it's a

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<v Speaker 3>puffer coat that has the outside print like the outside

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<v Speaker 3>of a potato, which kind of makes it look like

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's got a skin disorder.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like something Tyler the creator would wear.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago maybe, but it's all fleece inside, so it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like fluffy inside of a potato. And then you can

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<v Speaker 3>also it comes with a silver rain poncho over the outside,

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<v Speaker 3>wrapped in foil when you bake them. Some people bake

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<v Speaker 3>them in foil.

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<v Speaker 2>Some on the street like that. Yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like in London, but I've seen that sold that.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, like baked potatoes on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, like they sell like hot dogs on

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<v Speaker 2>the street.

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<v Speaker 3>They tacos where I'm front, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People also sell baked potatoes.

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<v Speaker 3>Really freaks. So anyway you can get this, you're the

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<v Speaker 3>one with the jacket. Gotta go on, you gotta go

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<v Speaker 3>on and try and get you a jacket potato jacket

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<v Speaker 3>if you're in aldi UK. Here's my favorite part of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'll stop. Julie Ashfield is the chief commercial

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<v Speaker 3>officer at Aldi UK. Okay, and she said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we know our customers love jacket potatoes, so launching this

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<v Speaker 3>jacket made sense, especially now the temperatures are dropping. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that makes sense. Here's the line that I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>she wrote for us, enjoying a jacket potato in all

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<v Speaker 3>these new jacket potato jacket is sure to be a

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<v Speaker 3>mash made in heaven. But I'm chat that is ridiculous

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<v Speaker 3>every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you guys a can just sit back down,

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<v Speaker 2>keep those legwarmers present, because you know I got something

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Yea, it's ridiculous. Yeah, you know, like lots

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<v Speaker 2>of Hollywood stars and celebrities get fan mail, but the

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<v Speaker 2>mid century actress and the World War two era sex

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<v Speaker 2>symbol Betty Grable, right, she was the rare star who

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<v Speaker 2>got lots and lots of extortion letter as fan mail boy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in the immortal words of Keenan Thompson, what's up with that?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up with that?

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<v Speaker 2>This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 2>heists and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 2>and one hundred percent what one hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous, Elizabeth Sar.

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<v Speaker 2>A few weeks back, you told me a story that

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<v Speaker 2>blew my mind about the child actor Jackie Coogan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you remember that one, right, I remember it well.

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<v Speaker 2>Today I want to tell you a story about his

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<v Speaker 2>better half, one of his wives, the super famous actress

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<v Speaker 2>Betty Grabil.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you know about Betty Grabel.

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<v Speaker 3>I know she was married to Jackie Coogan, and I

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<v Speaker 3>know she was like a World War two pin up.

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<v Speaker 3>She's got the famous one where she's kind of looking

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<v Speaker 3>over her shoulder. Yeah, you're looking at her rump in

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<v Speaker 3>a swimsuit, like.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look over my shoulder. I've brought a Betty

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<v Speaker 2>Grable here.

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<v Speaker 3>Into the student I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I always tell you I have a poster of Betty Grable.

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<v Speaker 3>So I took a life size cardboard cutout. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>have that in your car?

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<v Speaker 2>Laminated totally for weather never mind? Yeah? So okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>now let's dive a little deeper and get to know

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<v Speaker 2>Betty Grabil. Yes, she was born in nineteen sixteen and

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<v Speaker 2>her parents named her Elizabeth Ruth Grabil, So it's really

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<v Speaker 2>her name, Betty Grabil. She was raised in Saint Louis, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 2>youngest of three kids. Father was a stockbroker. Her mother

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<v Speaker 2>was basically a stage mom. She used she used to

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<v Speaker 2>enter her daughter and like beauty contest all the time

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<v Speaker 2>as a little girl, and then like as a younger girl,

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<v Speaker 2>and she would win, like she want a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a looker, right yeah. So after that taste of

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<v Speaker 2>early success, and just after the stock market crashed in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty nine, her mother took her out to Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>to chase stardom. Yeah, no mention of her father going

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<v Speaker 2>the stockbroker.

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<v Speaker 3>But any way, I hope he was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Betty Grable was twelve years old at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>her mother lied and said she was fifteen so she

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<v Speaker 2>could work in the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's disturbing, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So she gets her first movie part that same year,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty nine, and at the time she was using

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<v Speaker 2>a stage name, Francis Dean. You got a name like.

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<v Speaker 3>Betty Gray Grable's like the best name.

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<v Speaker 2>Right anyway, Next year nineteen thirty, at age thirteen, she

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<v Speaker 2>signs a contract with Samuel Goldwyn and becomes one of

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<v Speaker 2>the og.

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<v Speaker 3>Goldwyn Girls at thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, which if you're unfamiliar. That's just a Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>knockoff of the Ziegfield Follies, which are the chorus girls

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<v Speaker 2>that were all the rage on Broadway at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And again thirteen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirteen yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So two years later, nineteen thirty two, she signs with

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<v Speaker 2>RKAO Pictures. That's where she gets to her start actually

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<v Speaker 2>doing acting parts, not just like kicking her legs. She

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<v Speaker 2>takes classes because that was the thing back in like

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<v Speaker 2>classic Golden age Hollywood. So she's doing acting classes, dance classes,

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<v Speaker 2>voice lessons, and she then goes to her birth name

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<v Speaker 2>as her stage name, Betty Grabel. After she spends the

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<v Speaker 2>thirties basically playing like a typically colleged age girls in

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<v Speaker 2>a series of college set films, and she starts to

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<v Speaker 2>make a name for herself as Betty Grabel. And then

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty seven she gets married to who former

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<v Speaker 2>child star Jackie Coogan. But as you explained in your episode,

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, he was all emotionally bogged down with

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<v Speaker 2>the lawsuit against his parents over his childhood earnings. So

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<v Speaker 2>eventually that puts strain on their marriage and it gets

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<v Speaker 2>cramped by all this emotional like you know, baggage and

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<v Speaker 2>they get divorced two years later in nineteen thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Before they got divorced, they started a movie together called

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<v Speaker 2>Million Dollar Legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Million Dollar Legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was the movie where she earned her nickname

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<v Speaker 2>and they called attention to her world famous legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, after her divorce from Jackie Coogan in thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>the next year, she's feeling a little blue. She's considering

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<v Speaker 2>leaving showbism behind. Right, She's like in her feels because

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<v Speaker 2>she's been in the industry for a decade.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's twenty three, yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now at this point, she goes on this national tour

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<v Speaker 2>where she would do personal appearances, and this saves her

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<v Speaker 2>career because it rekindles her love of being a star

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<v Speaker 2>when she's out amongst the people. Though, yeah those of us,

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<v Speaker 2>of the little people, right. But the big deal of

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<v Speaker 2>this tour is that she meets Daryl F. Xanik, the

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<v Speaker 2>head of twentieth Century Fox, and he's all charmed by

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<v Speaker 2>Betty Grabil. He can see potential in this, like untapped

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<v Speaker 2>possible megastar. Yeah, So she dyes her hair blonde. She

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<v Speaker 2>becomes Xanic Like well, Xank was kind of a sucker

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<v Speaker 2>for a blonde star. Right, So she becomes his new

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<v Speaker 2>like favorite, like it girl of the moment, and he

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<v Speaker 2>believed that he could make this happen for America too.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is when her career really starts to take off.

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<v Speaker 2>She becomes this glamorous movie star, a blonde bombshell. She's

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<v Speaker 2>also essentially known for her self deprecating wit, which really

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<v Speaker 2>went a long way in differentiating her from some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other stars of the time. Like as far as

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<v Speaker 2>why she became a big star, Betty Grabel once said,

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<v Speaker 2>as a dancer, I couldn't outdance Ginger Rogers or Eleanor Powell.

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<v Speaker 2>As a singer, I'm no rival to Doris Day. As

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<v Speaker 2>an actress, I don't take myself seriously. I'm the girl

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<v Speaker 2>truck driver's loves. And she also means she's such like

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<v Speaker 2>a woman of the people and specifically soldiers. She also acknowledged, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she said quote, I'm strictly an enlisted man's girl. Oh right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's obviously in reference to Betty Grabel being a

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<v Speaker 2>major screen icon of the World War two era, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's gonna kick off in forty one for us,

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<v Speaker 2>right now, there's that famous image that you mentioned of

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<v Speaker 2>her in the white bathing suit. She's like glancing over

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<v Speaker 2>her shoulder, which is just over my shoulder, And that

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<v Speaker 2>image it gets painted on the sides of bomber planes

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<v Speaker 2>and she becomes the it girl of the day. Darryl's

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<v Speaker 2>Anni's call works out perfectly. He's totally right, and she

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<v Speaker 2>becomes actually a good luck charm for soldiers over sees

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<v Speaker 2>this sexy reminder of why and who they're fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>back home. She's what they would call a morale booster.

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<v Speaker 2>But who was Betty Grabel beyond the iconic pin up imagery.

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<v Speaker 2>So glad you asked you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to like.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying, she was a fun star. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>self deprecating woman. She manages to scale the heights of Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>And also this is, you know, stark contrast to who

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<v Speaker 2>she really is, because she was painfully shy, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>she becomes really, yeah, this major star. This was because

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<v Speaker 2>of a few factors, all right, As Debbie Reynold's, a

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<v Speaker 2>fellow actress and a contemporary, once said Betty Grabel was

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<v Speaker 2>the most easy going woman in Hollywood. So, like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>liked working with her. Everyone liked chilling on the set

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<v Speaker 2>with her, and she often said, you know that she

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<v Speaker 2>just loved show business, Like she's got this great quote

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<v Speaker 2>about show business. It's loud, it's cheap, it's gaudy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like everything I've ever done. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love stars who lean into it, like how good

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<v Speaker 3>they have it, how fun it can.

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<v Speaker 2>Be, exactly like a set is incredible. It really does

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<v Speaker 2>feel awesome. It feels like you're getting away with something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you look at like actors and professional athletes

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<v Speaker 3>who moan about it. You know, when you think that

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<v Speaker 3>there are people who that's their life's dream and you're

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there complaining about this, like, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>You've lost perspective, you have lost the plot exactly now.

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<v Speaker 2>Betty Grabel was also a huge star because Betty Grabel

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<v Speaker 2>knew who Betty Grabel was. She was super realistic about

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<v Speaker 2>what the public wanted from her. She was extremely self

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<v Speaker 2>aware as a star in show business terms. She was

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a song and dance woman, right, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>those the movies she made. And she once said, there

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<v Speaker 2>are two reasons why I am successful in show business,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am standing on both of them, or more succinctly.

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<v Speaker 2>She once said, there's nothing mysterious about me. My legs

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<v Speaker 2>made me. Yeah. I saw this Life magazine pictorial they did.

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<v Speaker 2>We had like eighteen pictures of her, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>her face is only in like four of them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just always her legs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they used to use her legs as measurements.

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<v Speaker 2>If you went into go buy hosiery, They're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Betty Grabel's legs, this, what are yours?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Her megastarretan was very much due to this obviously

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<v Speaker 2>self awareness and then her sexy legs. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could say she was also unafraid to flaunt what she had,

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<v Speaker 2>namely her million dollar legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, as this publicity stunt Daryl Zanik in twentieth

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<v Speaker 2>Century Fox the Studio, they paid this insurance company, Lloyd's

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<v Speaker 2>of London to ensure her legs for one million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time they do those like I've insured my hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Really it's fat, it's so bizarre, lovely if you get hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Now by the nineteen forties, so when World War two

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<v Speaker 2>is in full swing, Betty Grabel is the biggest female

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<v Speaker 2>star in America, specifically, in nineteen forty three, she was

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<v Speaker 2>the number one box office draw in the world. That's

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<v Speaker 2>including male actors. Really, she stayed the number one box

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<v Speaker 2>office draw for a full decade when she's making these

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<v Speaker 2>lush Technicolor musicals. Yeah, Betty, Now, Betty Grabel was more popular.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make this clear, then the big male

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<v Speaker 2>stars of the day. She's more popular than Clark Gave,

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<v Speaker 2>more popular than Gary Cooper, Humphy, Bauagart, Bob Hope. And

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<v Speaker 2>due to that, in forty three, she signs this million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar contract with twenty eighth Century Fox, every with hers

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars. Yeah, of course, she comes the first woman

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<v Speaker 2>to join what was known as the million dollar club

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<v Speaker 2>because male actors were getting paid that they'd cross that line.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, since I know you often wondered that this

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars in nineteen forty three would be eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>point seven million dollars in today's dollars. Wow, she's like

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<v Speaker 2>in the basically the twenty million dollar club.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, for the next ten years, as I said, she

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<v Speaker 2>remains the highest paid female star in America. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the US Treasury confirmed with data that in nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 2>six and nineteen forty seven, she was the highest paid

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<v Speaker 2>woman in America regardless of the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, think too about you know, we talk about salaries

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<v Speaker 3>now in Hollywood, but that's also because you have this

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<v Speaker 3>global market and they didn't have that then. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>films could make it overseas, but not to the degree

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<v Speaker 3>of like that's where the earning is.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and that's what now the majority of the earnings. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So to recap Betty Grabel, she's this pin up girl,

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<v Speaker 2>She's the sex symbol of her era. She's a major

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<v Speaker 2>blonde bombshell. Basically, one way of thinking about is this,

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<v Speaker 2>before there was Marilyn Monroe, there was Betty Grabl. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can think of her. Actually, you can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>think of this this series of famous blonde sex symbols.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes like this. First there's Gene Harlow, She's the

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<v Speaker 2>first blonde bombshell. She's the Big six symbol of the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirties. And then comes Betty Grabl, the pin up girl,

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<v Speaker 2>blonde bombshell of World War Two of the nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 2>And then along comes Marilyn Monroe, who fuses the appeal

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<v Speaker 2>of both Geen Harlowe and Betty Grabel and then becomes

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's basically the sex appeal Jean Harlowe and

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<v Speaker 2>the mystery of her and then the every GI's girl,

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<v Speaker 2>all American appeal of Betty Grabel. Right, that's how Maryland

0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.040
<v Speaker 2>becomes the huge star of the nineteen fifties. So essentially,

0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Betty Grabel actually even passes the torch to Maryland when

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<v Speaker 2>they start together in the movie How to Marry a Millionaire?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh right, right, yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Marilyn Monroe would tell anyone who listened when

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<v Speaker 2>she was growing up, she idolized Betty Grabel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>who she wanted, Yeah, because she knew she had it,

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<v Speaker 2>and also she was unapologetic about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think is interesting when you're describing her

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<v Speaker 3>and we know what we know about Marilyn being very

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<v Speaker 3>self aware and in control, and you know, they get

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<v Speaker 3>portrayed as like ditches and not and kind of manipulated.

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<v Speaker 3>Jane Mansfield is another one like that, where these are

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<v Speaker 3>really smart women who are savvy and talented and they

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<v Speaker 3>play characters and people think they are those characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly and they know that. You know, American audience at

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<v Speaker 2>the time in particular, liked these like dumb, daffy, goofy women,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would play into that. But you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be smart to play that part exactly. So, No, in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen forties, if you're Betty Grabel and your sex symbol,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're at this blonde bombshell and you're the most

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<v Speaker 2>famous woman in the world, there's something you also are.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a symbol, you're a focus of obsessions, and you

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<v Speaker 2>become a target for you guessed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Crime, Oh boy, in this case, oh Betty.

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous crime. Now. I mentioned old radio shows far too often,

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<v Speaker 2>but in this case who Ida too, because it's relevant

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<v Speaker 2>to the story. Because before TV becomes the thing in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty eight, radio is what folks did at night

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<v Speaker 2>for entertainment, as you know, right. They'd gather around, they'd

0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.000
<v Speaker 2>listen to sitcoms or news programs. They listened to soap

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<v Speaker 2>operas in the daytime, action adventure shows at night for

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<v Speaker 2>the kids, major Broadway plays, if you're cultured, Hollywood movies

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<v Speaker 2>would get acted on the airways. Right. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>big shows of the day was The Green Hornet, which

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<v Speaker 2>I've mentioned before. It's the radio show that Seth Rogan

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a movie in twenty eleven, but in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty that show became the inspiration for a Betty Grabel based.

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<v Speaker 3>Crime waits The Green Hornet.

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<v Speaker 2>The Green Hornet. On December sixth, nineteen forty, someone sat

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<v Speaker 2>down and they penned a letter to Betty Grabel. But

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<v Speaker 2>this wasn't fan mail. Instead, this person wanted to send

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<v Speaker 2>an extortion letter to Betty Grabel, but rather than call

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<v Speaker 2>himself by his government name since it was an extortion letter,

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<v Speaker 2>he called himself the Yellow Hornet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yellow Hornet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the letter he's sent read you have been selected

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<v Speaker 2>by me, the Yellow Hornet, to pay me the sum

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<v Speaker 2>of two thousand dollars in cash. Of course, of course

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<v Speaker 2>I love the court lady. No want to start to

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<v Speaker 2>a letter. It's like part scam letter, part deranged fantasy.

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<v Speaker 2>And also that much money two thousand dollars in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty would be yes, forty six thousand dollars that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing it for you, right forty. So back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Yellow Hornet's letter. This amount will be addressed to

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Betty Westlake, six' Ten Allison, Avenue, Washington. Pennsylvania the

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<v Speaker 2>amount will be sent by special delivery any, way you

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<v Speaker 2>prefer By december twenty, Fifth Christmas, day or you will

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<v Speaker 2>thus suffer the results is.

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<v Speaker 3>That The Yellow horns. House.

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<v Speaker 2>No, interestingly he doesn't make it clear what these bad

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<v Speaker 2>results will. BE i, guess like hel For, ditchcock he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to leave it to the. Imagination but The Yellow

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<v Speaker 2>hornet then ends his. Letter this is not a, joke

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<v Speaker 2>as you may, think but strictly. Business if, you, however

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<v Speaker 2>don't send this money to the address, ABOVE i will

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<v Speaker 2>personally come out and get. You, sincerely The. Hornet strictly.

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<v Speaker 3>Business no pleasure involved in. This it's LIKE.

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<v Speaker 2>Epmd it's strictly. Business Erica Perrish Macon ducats.

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<v Speaker 3>Come and get.

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<v Speaker 2>You yeah. Right he decides to go with the threat

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<v Speaker 2>IF i don't get my money By Christmas, day will

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<v Speaker 2>personally come out and get. You AND i assume he

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<v Speaker 2>means to come out To, hollywood, right not like to his.

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<v Speaker 2>Mother AND i guess he'll buy one of those maps

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<v Speaker 2>of the stars homes and just go, knock, knock knock

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<v Speaker 2>on her. Door, now another interesting thing about The Yellow hornets.

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<v Speaker 2>Letter it's at the address he sent you asked. About

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<v Speaker 2>this is the home In East, Washington, pennsylvania was the

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<v Speaker 2>home of the superintendent Of schools For East, washington and we,

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<v Speaker 2>assumed presumably he was the father Of Betty, westlake except,

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<v Speaker 2>for as THE fbi found, out there was No Betty. Westlake,

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<v Speaker 2>instead the daughter was Named Mary. Westlake so, yeah, anyway

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<v Speaker 2>THE fbi investigates the center of the letter is this

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen year old kid Named James, porter Not Betty. Westlake

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't even Know betty Or Mary. Westlake and THE

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<v Speaker 2>fbi discover all this when they arrest him On january,

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<v Speaker 2>third nineteen forty. One, yeah they catch up to The

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<v Speaker 2>Yellow hornet before he gets his act together and pops

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<v Speaker 2>across the country to go Visit Betty Grabil, yeah because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously she did not send the. Money On december twenty, fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously after he's arrested by THE fbi and The Pennsylvania State,

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<v Speaker 2>Police James porter confesses that he did in fact send the,

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<v Speaker 2>letter but not only, that he'd also sent letters to

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen of his neighbors in the town Of, Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>Pennsylvania sixteen neighbors Plus Betty.

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<v Speaker 2>Grave exactly why? Not he said they were all part

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<v Speaker 2>of His Yellow Hornet. Club oh, yeah which they had

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<v Speaker 2>to know. This, no they had not opted to join.

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<v Speaker 2>This it's just like he would send quote assignments under

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<v Speaker 2>penalty of What i'm going to come out to your

0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.440
<v Speaker 2>house or. Whatever, now if you're wondering What Betty grabel's

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 2>response to the letter, was she never actually received. It

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<v Speaker 2>the letter instead was sent to twenty Century fox as fan,

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<v Speaker 2>mail so they she never saw. It they, did the

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<v Speaker 2>folks At. Fox they opened the fan. Mail then they

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<v Speaker 2>send it to THE, fbi like we got a live.

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<v Speaker 2>One they contact The Pennsylvania State police and some LOCAL fbi.

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<v Speaker 2>Agents you, know they all go out and arrest this confused,

0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Kid James. Porter and when the press Told Betty grabel

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.600
<v Speaker 2>about the yellow hornet, business she, said it's flattering that

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<v Speaker 2>someone THINKS i can reach out and produce two thousand

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.720
<v Speaker 2>dollars at a moment's. Notice But i've never heard of Miss,

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>westlake and SO i don't THINK i should make any further.

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Comments and, also further, Ironically James porter was released on

0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 2>two thousand dollars. Bail, okay so that's kind of a weird.

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Case some random kid tries to extort A hollywood star

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 2>the same way he has been trying to extort his

0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.879
<v Speaker 2>neighbors and he gets arrested by THE. Fbi get, This,

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth this was only the start of folks trying to

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Extort Betty, grabel and his stories only get weirder as we.

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<v Speaker 2>Go but, first let's take a, break chow, out listen

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<v Speaker 2>to some, ads and after these, MESSAGES i will tell

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you even wilder ones from the life Of Betty. Grabel.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice we're, Back yes we, Are.

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<v Speaker 2>And i've got More Betty grabel for.

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<v Speaker 4>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice are you ready for some folks looking to extort

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<v Speaker 2>the most, famous most, desired most highly Paid american woman

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 2>of the nineteen. Forties so after The december nineteen Forty

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<v Speaker 2>january forty one story about The pennsylvania farm Boy James,

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 2>porter which becomes obviously national, news it leads to what

0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>we now call copycat. Crime oh, yeah and it didn't

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 2>even take. Long one month later the blue, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>do you know how you heard about? This because he

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<v Speaker 2>got Busted, nope doesn't stop. Him In february forty, one

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>another young man From pennsylvania was, LIKE i want to

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<v Speaker 2>Extort Betty grabel.

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<v Speaker 3>Too WHY i make everyone feels like they can do it?

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Better? YEAH i think so, yeah because his second, guy

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a high school age kid Like James. Porter,

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 2>instead he was a twenty four year old nightclub waiter

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 2>working In. Philadelphia. Wow but he was also Named James JAMES.

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:02.720
<v Speaker 2>D Thompson ibry. Fourth nineteen forty, one THE fbi Arrested

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>James thompson after he Sent Betty grabil an extortion. Letter

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 2>but unlike the kid who demanded two, grand he went Bigger.

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 2>ELIZABETH i, mean he was some punk. Kid he's a

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:11.479
<v Speaker 2>working night.

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Club he has the value of.

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Money he's got a, tailor he's got you, know he's

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 2>got people to. Pay he may even have a, bookie who.

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Knows but he demanded eighty five hundred dollars From Betty

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 2>grabil and what's? That that would be one hundred and

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven thousand.

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Dollars, okay, right, yeah, yeah that's a good.

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Chunk and he said unless the amount was, paid she

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:33.359
<v Speaker 2>would suffer bodily.

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Harm oh, vague, YES i like.

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 2>It leave it to the.

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Magic did he have a fun name at the end

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 3>of the.

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Letter, No, no he just well he just sent it as,

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 2>like you, know LIKE i don't actually don't remember the bumblebee.

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 2>YEAH i don't THINK i found what his name was

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 2>on the. Letter they just mentioned different sections of the

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 2>letter in the. News but, Yeah so he sends his

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>letter On january twenty, fourth AND i guess he wasn't

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.680
<v Speaker 2>dissuaded by the fact the kid From pittsburgh got. Caught

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 2>so he's, like, No i'm From. Philadelphia we're smart kids

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 2>in Western. Pennsylvania So thompson the nightclub, waiters like things

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.399
<v Speaker 2>will go differently for. Me his plan was slightly. SMARTER

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 2>i gotta give him. That rather than have the money

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 2>sent to a girl he didn't, know, yeah he demanded

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>That Betty grabil send the money to him via general,

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.120
<v Speaker 2>delivery and then she was to place a personal ad

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>in a Local philadelphia paper so he would know that

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 2>she'd sent it and when to expect the money's.

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.479
<v Speaker 3>Arrival, wait and to his name general. Delivery.

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Basically, Yeah, so instead of sending any money to

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 2>her Second pennsylvania extortion, Is Betty grabil hands the letter

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 2>over to THE. Fbi it takes them a week and

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 2>a half this, time and the GM n spring into

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>action and they arrest the nightclub. Waiter the good news

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>For Betty grabel was that no one sent her an

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 2>extortion letter for the rest of that. Year oh that's,

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Good nor did she receive. One in nineteen forty. Two

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the war was, on you, know the young men Of

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>america or busy wondering if they had been draft, yet

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>had other. Concerns maybe not as much time for, nonsense

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>but maybe, not because in nineteen forty three it all

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.639
<v Speaker 2>starts right back up. Now if you remember from up

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>top WHEN i was telling you About Betty, grabil nineteen

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>forty three was her million dollar, year, Right that's the

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 2>year she signed her million dollar contract with Twentieth Century,

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 2>fox and she had her, legs you, know insured With

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>lloyd's Of london for a million. Dollars, yeah big million

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>dollar year for, her, Right and all that talk of

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 2>million dollars may have been what triggered the next extortion.

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Letter or maybe this is just something you, know something. ELSE

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 2>i don't, know because the extortion letter it arrives In

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:25.199
<v Speaker 2>february forty. Three, coincidentally the letter was Postmark february, sixth

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>which was one day after her previous extortionists had been

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 2>busted by the G men back in forty. One oh,

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 2>really it almost the. Anniversary, yeah so the story. Goes

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>in Early, February Betty grabil receives her latest extortion, letter

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and it begins rather, Formally Dear Miss, grabil this is

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>an extortion under threat at your life or a great bodily.

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Harm gathered twenty five thousand dollars in uncut diamonds and

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 2>mail them in two envelopes addressed To JONATHAN. C Wild,

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Esquire Gates hotel fifth And, Figueroa, Sandelus, california signed The.

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Leopard, wait now we're at The. Leopard this we got

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 3>to break this letter down for a. Second, right twenty

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 3>five grand and uncut diamonds in two, envelopes, envelope slit it.

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Up he's, LIKE i think it's gonna go over postage

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 3>if you put them all in one, envelopes, like split it.

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Up he doesn't trust the. Mail he's, LIKE i want

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>to get at least one of these through The.

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Leopard.

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Esquire, yes he's a. LAWYER i guess he's.

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Like bill And. Ted oh, wow.

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 2>By the, way twenty five grand you're, wondering that's four

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:33.959
<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars twenty twenty. Five oh,

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.360
<v Speaker 2>yeah half mil, mo, right Because he's, like, yeah you're

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>worth a million. Dollar your leg's are worth a million.

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Dollars i'll take a half Mill i'll take a one

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 2>baty grable leg worth of. Money, also what is up

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 2>with these, guys The Yellow, hornet The? Leopard these are

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 2>like b grade comic book.

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 3>VILLAINS i, know it's.

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Amazing and also the you know The JONATHAN. C wild,

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 2>esquire is he even a real? Lawyer is that just.

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Means fancy exactly to be messed? With so is he The?

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Leopard is He JONATHAN?

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 3>C wild?

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 2>With, anyway these are all great.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Questions send it to my.

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Lawyer OH i like, That i'm. Smart, yeah he's probably

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>watching a lot of like noir films.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so THE fbi when they hear about, this they're,

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 2>like we got. This we're getting pretty good at busting these.

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Bozos what is this number? Three so the g men

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>decided to play. Along this time they send what was

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>described as a dummy package to the address given by

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 2>The leopard way and they had undercover agents watched the

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>hotel At fifth And figureoa to see who would come

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>pick up the. Package but no one.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Came oh, Really, Yeah.

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 2>But one month later In March march, ninth to be,

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 2>exact a second letter is sent To Betty. Grabil it

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 2>was just as formal as the first and was also

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 2>using increasingly violent. Language the letter, read dear Miss, grabil

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 2>On march, nineteenth at nine to forty, am come north

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 2>On Gower street and a half block south Of Santa Monica.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>BOULEVARD i will be waiting leaning on the cemetery. Wall

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 2>bring five thousand dollars or you will not be alive

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 2>on the, Twentieth Signed Snowy.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Baker first of, All i'm kind of excited BECAUSE i

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 3>know where all these places.

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>ARE i thought you.

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Would and Then snowey's sne, Dude Snowy, baker.

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.479
<v Speaker 2>This is apparently the gnome de plume of the. Leopard

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>he's a snow. Lepard and uh, yeah if you if

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you the THE fbi they did had handwriting analysis check the.

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Letter they confirmed it was definitely the same. Guy Snowy

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>baker is the.

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Leopard Snowey baker leaning on the cemetery. Gate, yes That's

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Rombi keats And yates on his. SIDE i like, that.

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>So five grand in nineteen forty, Three in case you were,

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Wondering elizabeth is about ninety three, thousand six hundred dollars these. Days,

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>okay so still a pretty good. Page, yeah but no

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 2>one cut diamonds this. Time he's dropped from twenty five

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 2>grand to five, grand a fifth of the. Value but he's,

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 2>like you, KNOW i don't know the snowy baker is

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and as greedy as the. LEOPARD i don't want to tell.

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 2>You but it's still a ton of money in forty. Three.

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so WHAT i also love about this second extortion

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>letter is how the letter is so damn. Specific, yeah

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like not half past, nine, no nine, Am like

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>he's running a, bus.

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Go, yeah. Totally, well you wonder if it does coincide

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 3>with a bus that he would he's planning to jump

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 3>on a bus right After oh good. Call and he

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 3>never picked up the original dummy. Package, no it never.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Came to The hotel fifth and. Figure now at this,

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 2>one at the intersection Of gower And Santa. Monica the

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 2>exchange is a half block south Of Santa monica right.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>NOW i don't know how well you know The hollywood,

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>area but that street you, MEAN i know you said

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you can know all these But gower was a really

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>interesting choice at that time to pick because that's where

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of movie studios were located At Sunset boulevard And, gower,

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>right which is which is just a few blocks. Away

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>it's about like four city. Blocks so it's a great

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 2>exchange place for the leopard if you want to run

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>into a bunch of like guys dressed like, cowboys because

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>the area was Called Gower. Gulch, yeah because there's basically

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>like At sunset And gower. There back in the silent film,

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Era sunset And gower was the home of movie, cowboys,

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>right and this continued into the sound, era so you

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Had Columbia studios, there you had The bean Movie Maker

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Republic studios which made a ton of. Westerns so extras

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and people who just wanted to be a star would

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>hang out in this area and they would be like

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 2>walking around like dressed as like you, know a horse,

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>rustler and that way they some casting director might see

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 2>them and they could get hired for the day to

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>be a member of a posse, amazing, Right, yeah So

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Gower gooles becomes this home of.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Movie has my own costume guys.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Exactly and also if you didn't find work that, day

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you could go over to The columbia Drug store and

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 2>you can just mosey on, in grab a, seat and

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>enjoy a cup of coffee or sandwich or. Whatever and

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.239
<v Speaker 2>this is Where John wayne used to hang out when

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 2>he was a young. Actor, also Both Roy rogers And

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Gene autry, like if you're looking for, stars, yeah this

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>is the.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Space.

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway so this is just a couple of blocks

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>away from the leopard who wants to Meet Betty grable

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>to go at.

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Nine to forty as and there's a, cemetery.

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah where he'll be waiting on the cemetery. Wall, now

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>this time the g men they decide not to send

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>a dummy. Package, instead they want to Send Betty grable

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>to deliver the five grand in cash as. Instructed but

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you can't Risk Betty grabil and her million dollar. Legs

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you can't send the Real Betty. Grable so instead they

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>plan to send an UNDERCOVER fbi. Agent now you may

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>be picturing some clean shape of AN fbi guy drag

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>and a.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Bond wahgray, Amazing but it.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Turns out THE fbi had female agents at the, time

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>so they scared up an agent who had a passing

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>resemblance To betty grabil and they sent her to make the.

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Exchange oh.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Wow but rather than me tell you, That, Elizabeth i'd

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 4>like you to close your eyes as a Closed i'd like.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>You to picture. It It's march, nineteenth nineteen forty, three

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the appointed day for the, exchange the day to hand

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>over the extortion money to The leopard Aka Snowy. Baker

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the g men of THE fbi have planned extensively for

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 2>this sting. Operation charts of the street have been created

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 2>with precise locations selected for the full surveillance of the

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>scene of this. Exchange some of the agents are excited

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>to bring to bear the latest high technology of the,

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>day cutting edge and surveillance. TECH a, camera but not

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>just any, camera a handheld movie, camera specifically a sixteen

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>millimeter camera outfitted with a telephoto.

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Lens Oo La La.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Jegar hoover's like my boys can make movies. Too, Anyway

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>they have a plan for total coverage of the. Payoff

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>the new lightweight sixteen millimeter movie cameras are perfect tool

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>for a sting. Operation perched in like these advantageous vantage,

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 2>points g men have their sixteen millimeter cameras trained on the.

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Street there are also spotters using high powered. Binoculars they

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>have radios to signal the other agents who are down

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 2>at street. Level in the, cemetery there ARE fbi field

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>agents dressed as gardeners digging in the fresh turned. Earth

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 2>there are also other UNDERCOVER fbi agents dressed as grave.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Diggers they work the soil with, shovels but they're ready

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to spring into action as soon as the perp reveals.

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Themselves on both sides of the. Street on the, sidewalk

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>there are also other undercover g men acting as, lookouts

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>and they have portable walkie talk is that they have

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>hidden behind the newspapers and other useful. Items prowling the

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>corner of the streets are even more UNDERCOVER fbi agents

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>driving around in radio, equipped unmarked cars and behind the

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>wheel of a shiny blue. Sedan is You? Elizabeth you

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>are the lone FEMALE fbi agent working the sting. Operation

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 2>at the moment your hands grip the steering wheel of

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the shiny blue, sedan you push a few stray wind

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>blown blonde hairs out of your, eyes because that's right you're.

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Dressed Is Betty? Grable you have the windows down because

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>that's part of the, act and the wind coming in

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>through the open windows is blowing around the hairs of

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 2>your blonde. Wig everything has been. Coordinated you know just

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 2>what you are to do with this, sting just as

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>instructed by the extortion letter sent by The leopard Aka Snowy.

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Baker you turn Onto gower at the appointed time nine forty.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Am the shiny blue sedan smoothly corners and you keep

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>the car in a slow roll as you head Down.

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Gower you also keep your eyes peeled searching for or the.

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Perp he should be here on the cemetery. Gates as

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 2>you approach the drop spot halfway down the block Of,

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>gower you grip the brown paper wrapped package on the

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>bench's front seat next to. You you brush a few

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>more stray blonde wig hairs out of your, eyes but

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you still don't see any obvious, perp so you go

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>ahead and do as. Instructed you lift the brown bundle

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and you toss it out of the open window of

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the shiny Blue. Sedan the package is weighted appropriately and

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 2>is well. Wrapped it slaps at the street when it. Lands,

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>meanwhile you continue to drive slowly down to the end

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>of the. Block at that same, moment g men hidden

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>in second story windows with sixteen millimeter cameras and their telephoto,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 2>lenses as well as THE fbi agents on the roof

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>perched up there with their high powered. BINOCULARS a spot.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Movement could this be The leopard Aka Snowy baker the.

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>EXTORTIONIST a gangly young man hops off the cemetery. Wall

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 2>he walks between two parked, cars and he heads right

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>for the brown paper wrapped. Package the surveillance team were

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 2>all over. It rate the spotters down on street level

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and signal the g men in a cemetery he dressed

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>as gardeners and, gravediggers but they don't need to be.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Signaled they see the same gangly young. Man they drop

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>their cover shovels hit the. Grass the UNDERCOVER fbi agents

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>run out of the. Cemetery the ones with walkie talkies

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 2>on the sidewalk break, character and they also run towards

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>the gangly young man in the middle of the. Street

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 2>they SHOUT fbi. Freeze in your rear view, mirror you

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>see the gangly young man reach down and scoop up

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the brown paper wrap packets from the. Street he tucks

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>it under an arm and makes a run for. It

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 2>in the rear view, mirror you watch him run right

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 2>towards where you are further down the, block so you

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>press down on the gas pedal and. Accelerate the shiny

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Blue sidan gives a throaty growl of the engine in.

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Response you glance again in the rear view, mirror just

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>in time to see the gangly young man get tackled

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>by the UNDERCOVER fbi. AGENTS a grave digger wraps him

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>up like a linebacker for Usc the young man goes

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 2>down r his face slaps the. Street you look down

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>from the rear view mirror in time to turn the

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>wheel of the Shiny lucidan as the car takes the.

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Corner at the same, time you yanked the blonde wig

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>from your. Head no more need to Be Betty. Grable nice,

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Work Agent.

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Dunton that was exciting.

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Now at this, point the man known As Snowy baker

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>aka The leopard was revealed to be an eighteen year

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>old high school student From, Omaha. Nebraska own From.

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 3>Nebraska his Name RUSSELL. E.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Alexanderson, Alexanderson, yes it's very strange. NAME i was, like

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 2>AM i seeing that?

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Right? Oh?

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah his father was in The. Army his mother had

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>gotten a job in THE la area working in an

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>aircraft plant In, inglewood all, right so she's, like you,

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 2>know building planes for the war. Effort, so since this

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>was the third extortion attempt Of Betty grabil and since

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>this was now a Major hollywood star aka The Blonde

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Bomb show with a million dollar, legs, yeah none other

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Than Jagger hoover announces the latest.

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Bus of, Course.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Jagger hoover swans in to tell the national press that

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 2>the eighteen year Old, herp who was a big boy

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>at six foot, four had been. Waiting he grabbed the

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>package and tried to make a run for, it But

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 2>hoover's g men gave chase and captured the pimply faced

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>high school boy aka The leopard a block away.

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 3>From the exchange right.

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Now RUSSELL. E, alexanderson who went by his middle Name,

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Eugene So Eugene alexanderson was interviewed and interrogated BY Fbi

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>District Commissioner DAVID. B, head and he confessed To Commissioner

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.439
<v Speaker 2>head that quote the threat of harm in the, letters

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>so it's never intended to be carried out at any.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Time so what was his deal? Then why did he do?

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 2>It great, Question. Elizabeth, yeah let's take a, break listen

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to some, ads and after these, MESSAGES i will tell

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>you why he did it and what happens when the

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 2>leopard strikes yet.

0:36:45.880 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 4>Again oh, no, Okay, elizabeth we are.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Back we're.

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Now we've got some questions about the. Leopard Eugene alexanderson From, Omaha,

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>nebraska have.

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 3>A lot of. Questions what's his? Deal, yeah, right what's

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 3>his major?

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Damage why Did eugene keep sending extortion letters To Petty?

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Grable well it turns out the leopard did actually want the.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Money, WELL i would.

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Imagine, Yeah but for what what would this eighteen year

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 2>old kid want during the war, Years you know when

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:35.879
<v Speaker 2>they're rationing, BUTTER i mean like.

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 3>Getting pants with that long of a. Leg good.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Point he'd outgrown his clothes and.

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 3>They're you, know rationing.

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Fabric he's got him like mid.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Cast he wants a pair of silk. Slacks they don't do.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 3>That it's For.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 2>He moved out west and was, LIKE i want one

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 2>of them zoot.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Suits, yeah it could be, so As.

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Eugene alexanderson explained to THE, fbi, QUOTE i wanted them

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>only to enable me to see movie. STARS i had

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>no opportunity to see them BECAUSE i had to account

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 2>to my mother for every DIME i.

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Spent, wait how many movies did this boy want to?

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Watch joe the movie? Stars he wanted to like go

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 2>like Six, Sea LIKE i don't go to The Brown

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>derby or. Something, yeah you gotta pay for.

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Food that's probably you.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Know he also bust money or. Whatever so his mom was.

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Down but to the quarter and the. Nickel he was

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>very eager.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 3>To see a lot of the uncut. Gems, right did

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 3>he have a? Fence did he think this? Through like

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 3>what was happening in this kid's? Head uncut? Gems so

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 3>it's not even, like, Oh i'm going to go pawn the.

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Summer you have to go to a to a gem.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Cutter he Wants, airfair To, antwerp Is la.

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Down To they Have downtown L. A they have a jewelry,

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 2>district so he could move the loose.

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Rocks this, kid.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>MAYBE i don't, know maybe once again maybe.

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 3>SO i don't. KNOW i don't want to the. Leopard

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 3>you never.

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Can underestimate the. Leopard so the kid who wanted to

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>see movie, stars, right he's ironically LIKE i, said just

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 2>blocks away From Gower, gulchi you want to just walk up.

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 3>The street and then also look for Free.

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>But Paramount studios is not far away. Either he could

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 2>go down to the gates Of Paramount studio to check

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.919
<v Speaker 2>out hangout. There it's over like On, melrose, right which

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 2>is just parallel To Santa. Monica, anyway he, Decides, Nope

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>i'm going to Extort Betty. Grable my mom's got all my.

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Money fore. MOTHER i WISH i could make it make Sense.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth and by the, way now we're under our third

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>young man who's trying to extort Baby. Grabel and he's

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the third to get. Busted, like why don't these like

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>these guys learn from the kooks who came before? Them,

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>AGAIN i do not, Know but WHAT i do know

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 2>is Since World War two is now in full. Swing

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 2>after eighteen year Old Eugene alexanderson pleads, guilty he is

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 2>sentenced not to, jail but instead he is inducted into the.

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Army you're in the army, now something about a hall of.

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 3>FAME i was, like he's inducted into the.

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Army, yeah he gets drafted.

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Up put him to good.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Use but when six foot, four pimply Faced eugene shows

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 2>up at army. Induction the army gets takes one good

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 2>look at, him and The army's like unsuitable stamp and

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 2>sends him. Back so instead he's given a sentence of

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.919
<v Speaker 2>five years on. Probation right and get This. Elizabeth while

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>he's on, probation just a few months, later he sends

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>another extortion letter To Betty.

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Cravele he needs to go TO. Napa he needs to

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 3>go To, yeah.

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Then bing bang. Boom In may of forty, three he's arrested.

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Again this time he'd sent her a letter demanding even less.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Money he demanded she give him five hundred dollars, yes

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 2>or Else i'll kill you and you'll never guess Where

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 2>he instructed her to meet him to hand over the.

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Money where does he have to go? Regularly that would

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 2>be like on his bus route. Trips that's, right His

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 2>federal probation. Office, no he's, like meet me at The

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 2>federal probation office and, gammy the five hundred dollars are?

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>You and that's where THE fbi arrested him because he

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 2>did show meeting, yes see my. Po so he gets,

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>interrogated interviewed BY Fbi District Commissioner head again and the,

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 2>gangly pimply faced young man explains his latest insane. Plan

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 2>eugene said that, QUOTE i just couldn't overcome the desire

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 2>to try to see her. Again you See elizabeth the,

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>man this young, man he had a, heart a heart of.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Fire he was badly in. Love he was out of

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>his mind with, desire or has he put? It for seven?

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Years i've been in love with Miss grable SINCE i

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 2>first saw her in. PICTURES i think IF i could see,

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Her i'd be. Satisfied at any, RATE i won't write

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 2>any more. Letters just give him one of the. Cutouts

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind he's he's yet to actually See Betty, grabil,

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>unless of, course he means you in a wig in

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 2>a moving car for him actually convinced That Betty grabel

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>was behind the wheel. Anyway Commissioner head was, like we're

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 2>not doing this, again, Son.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 2>No, eventually a judge releases him on bail while he

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>considered inappropriate sentence since probation hasn't done, anything and so

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 2>While eugene is awaiting, sentencing he decides to get in

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 2>one more. Letter, however this time he doesn't send it

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 2>To Betty, grable he's moved. On oh, yes he has

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 2>a different blonde in. Mind this time he decides to

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Extort May.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 3>WEST i would NOT i would not Cross May. West,

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 3>NO i gotta tell you right, now or, NO fbi.

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Right she feels like a woman has a dringer in a.

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 3>BOSOM i feel like she would answer the letters herself

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and they'd be, like, Yeah i'll meet.

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 2>You, there show up and cut them with a. RAZOR

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.720
<v Speaker 2>i dare. You, Now no one cut diamonds From May. West,

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 2>no but the amount he, demanded it's gone back. Up

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>he's way past five hundred. Dollars eugene writes To May

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>west that unless you give me one hundred thousand, dollars

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>she would live her days under threat of your life

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>or great Bodily.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 3>HEART i love the great Bodily.

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Heart it's his. Thing one hundred thousand, dollars that's a

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:54.479
<v Speaker 2>major escalation, here.

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Comand from like spot me fifty?

0:42:56.200 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Bucks that would be one point eight seven million in today's?

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Money is it just a cool like near two? Million

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Or i'm going to cut?

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 3>Him.

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>So The leopard's instructions For maywest were that she was

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>to put it in a package and bring it to

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 2>six two three Three Hollywood boulevard up to the sixth Floor,

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Saturday february, sixth at ten ten. Am once, again bus

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>schedule time.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Ten, tens ten minutes off of The. Meridian totally. Interesting you, KNOW.

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I Think i've mentioned this. BEFORE i once had an,

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 2>office like a like A hollywood, detective like a private

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>detective office on sixty four oh Four Hollywood, boulevard so

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>just like two blocks down for, So i'm super familiar

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>with this part of the. Town it's Basically hollywood And.

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Vine it's like super busy at his. Time Yea hollywood

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 2>And vine on the sixth floor. Shop so, anyway for

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>May west, extortion he went back to using his comic

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>book villain. Nickname he signed his letter The Leopard.

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Ckily for her he should go as the leopard For.

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Halloween oh, yeah we're still have.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>To explain it to everyone each. Time only you got

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes and some pimple.

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 3>Spot it's a bag of uncut, time.

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, YEAH i.

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Have to explain it all over and. Over you just

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 3>have a.

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Handout what are you supposed to?

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Do one?

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Sheet, People and it kind of got a link to

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 2>this episode yes. Exactly, Anyway luckily for, her May west

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 2>had essentially ignored the extortion letter and the threats. Made

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>she had read. It she actually got to, her but

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.760
<v Speaker 2>then she saw The Betty grabil story in the news

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 2>and then she's, like wait a, minute contacts THE Fbi

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.959
<v Speaker 2>after The May west. Letter commissioner had was, Like, okay,

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>yeah that's. It we're done here, kid.

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 3>We know where to find.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Them. Yeah the judge sentenced The Pimply face Gangly omaha

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.240
<v Speaker 2>kid to. Prison, yeah if you can believe. It someone

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 2>else decides to press their luck and Extort betty GREG i.

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Cannot imagine prison was kind of Rest Gene.

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 2>No no and his tenuous grasp on. Reality, yeah BUT

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>i bet.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 3>You there were so many pictures Of Betty grable up

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 3>in the. Cells it just drove them to.

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Madness they just called Them Harry, james, yeah or maybe

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Called Jackie. Coogan, Hey, jackie come on in. Here AS

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 2>i was, saying if you can believe, it don't ask

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>me how everyone's been. Caught but someone else is, like

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>you know What i'm gonna. Do i'm going to Extort Betty.

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>GRABLE a great.

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Idea now it's done That, no.

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>One's gotten away with it, yet but at this point

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty much an easy way to punch your ticket

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>to being locked up or getting set to the army

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 2>to fight. Overseas they're, Like i'm gonna try my. Luck

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't worked out for anyone, else but maybe it'll

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.720
<v Speaker 2>work out for me. Now in nineteen forty, five war still.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>On Betty grabel was married to the swing music Bandleader Harry. James,

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 2>right but that didn't stop someone from, thinking you know,

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 2>WHAT i should threaten to do harm To Betty. Grabel

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It's january of nineteen forty five when the press report

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.959
<v Speaker 2>That Betty grabel has been under police guard for several

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>days as a result of a tip that a plot

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>might be directed against. Her, now this time it wasn't

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 2>some pimply faced kate with a comic book pen. Name,

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 2>nope this time it was two men in a. Bar oh, Okay,

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>so according to Police Captain Thad, brown two men had

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 2>been overheard in a bar discussing a plan to abduct

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.919
<v Speaker 2>the star and hold her for. Ransom that's. Gross, yeah

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the bar owner felt like you did like? That that's. Gross,

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's, like you're just you're really mucking up the

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>vibe in my gin.

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Mill, well he's heard all manner a bad bar bets

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 3>exactly bad. Plans and then he hears, This he's, like

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 3>absolutely not. Right, yeah it means big stop it to

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 3>get A sweatson A.

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.760
<v Speaker 2>World war two era like gin mill bar owner pissed

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>off enough to contact THE. LAPED i got a live

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 2>one for. You he overheard two of, US i, said

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 2>two of his customers talking about Kidnapping Betty grabel holding for.

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Ransom and since he's worried that one of them is

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 2>an ex, convict he calls THE. Lapd so, Please Captain

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Thad brown gets in touch with Twentieth Century fox to

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.760
<v Speaker 2>make sure that the studio is aware of this threat

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to their big star because remember number one box office, draw.

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Right and they have to increase security at the studio and.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Have somebody with, her, like you, know taking her, home

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 2>pick her up in the morning for her early calls

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>because they don't know when they're going to. Strike, yeah

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>as the newspapers of the day reported from that time,

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>on Miss, grable wife of orchestra Leader Harry, james and

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 2>walk her dog without tripping over. Guards now her band leader.

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Husband he also starts to carry a handgun on him

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 2>because he kind of leans that. Way he's, Like i'm

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep that nickel plated on. Me and he wasn't

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 2>taking any chances with his new. Wife he's, LIKE i

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>got lucky to get. HER i ain't gonna lose her right.

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Now three weeks, past the two men fail to act

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 2>on their like tough guy bar, talk and so eventually studio, officials,

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 2>police THE, fbi and forty special agents who guarded The

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>star agreed it was only a dream and no kidnap.

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Plot so eventually it was tough bar.

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Talk oh but you know, what you gotta watch what you.

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Say oh, yeah people are gonna take it for. Real. Yeah,

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>NO i would love to tell you that that was

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the final time someone tried to kidnap her Ransom Betty

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>rabel or a, Starter but IF i told you, That

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 2>i'd be, lying because three years, later in nineteen forty,

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 2>eight it happens. Again the war's over.

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Now there's no.

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Excuse people were, like, well remember when we used to

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Extort Betty grable. World, NO i thought you'd appreciate, this

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 2>are ever curious eagle eyed Researcher Marissa, brown she raised

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>this interesting in her notes and her research dossier on this,

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 2>One marisa, said quote side, note what is it about

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 2>winter that makes people want to Kidnap Betty? Grable because

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>every one of these takes place in the. Winter is

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 2>there never summer time? Plans?

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:15.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh you, know you're bundled, up.

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 2>You're stuck, inside you listen to a lot of. Radio

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 2>you're wishing you could afford A tv at this. Point

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.320
<v Speaker 2>so yet, again come, winter someone gets the, IDEA i

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 2>should Extort Betty grabel for big. Payday it's been a few,

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.320
<v Speaker 2>years no one's tried, it so, someone you, know to

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 2>catch the. Spirit and then In january of nineteen forty,

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Eight Betty, grabel still the number one box office draw

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 2>in the, world with the million dollar, contract million dollar,

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 2>legs this blonde bombshell pin up girl next door. Vibes

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 2>someone Decides i'm gonna threaten to kill her.

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 3>And this one will.

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Work, yeah oh, god but they'd go one pass. Out

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 2>they're like, no, no everyone's said, that Like i'm gonna hurt,

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 2>You i'm gonna kill, You i'm gonna kidnap. You she's

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 2>like this new person's, like what IF i steal her new. Baby, no,

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 2>no there ain't nothing funnybout baby steal unless it's The

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Coen brothers Movie rais In. Arizona yeah right. True but that,

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 2>said this one is still good because oh The Storring.

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Coast Elizabeth Jane, bean twenty years old Of, Kaufman, texas

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and her Husband WILFORD. E. Bean these names are always cartoon.

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Names Jane bean And Willy. Bean willy so mister and Missus.

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Bean by the, Way.

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Billy, Bean Billy.

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Bean, yeah there you. Go Billy bean's. Job what does

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Mister bean do for a. Living he's an employee at

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>a glass. Company So i'm imagining him as like some

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 2>industrial glass blower coming home to his wife because, like,

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>honey you want to know WHAT i did? TODAY i

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 2>threatened to Take Betty grabel's. Baby we're gonna get, paid.

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Honey So Jane bean Of, Kaufman, texas she has a

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of bright anddea twenty year old fresh To hollywood

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 2>would come up with. Stort Betty grable plan is simple

0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 2>and diabolicals is just snatch your. Baby, yeah then just,

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>RUN i don't just run up steal steal the.

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Baby what happens? Next what happens, Next Missus, bean all.

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 2>RIGHT i think they're just gonna live high on the.

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 2>HOG i GUESS i don't know ABOUT i forgot this.

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Part she wrote this fan mail To Betty grable and

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 2>sent it to Twentieth Century. Fox, oh so the letters,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.799
<v Speaker 2>like send me five thousand. Dollars, Oh i'm gonna steal your.

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Baby i'm gonna start texting that to my.

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Friends and by the, way that's no small ass because

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.320
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty, eight five grand would be sixty seven

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, today right, Right and by the, way, Also

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Jane bean Of, Coffin texas didn't plan to steal the.

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Baby she planned to get paid for threatening to steal the.

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Baby she. Wasn't, yeah she wanted to.

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Get paid for playing With Betty grabel's.

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Imagination so scary this letter that she's, like of, course,

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 3>please Missus, Bean i'm.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Going to ransom a theoretical kidnapped baby of the. Future,

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 2>yeah and so sad part from His bean is that

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 2>she didn't know how to get the future ransom letter

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>extortion threat To Betty, grable so she sends it as

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 2>fan mail and its big star Like Betty grable doesn't

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 2>open her own fan. Mail so some poor schmuck in

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the mail room at the studio dome like.

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Went on probably to become like a huge. Producer, oh

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 3>they start the mail.

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Totally becomes Like Irving thaulberg or. Something, anyway so this

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 2>porschmuck in the mail room opens this particular piece of fan,

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 2>mail reads the extortion letter future ransom, letter and he's, like,

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 2>well that's not. Good so he takes it to his.

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Boss they read, it they're, like, well that's not. Good

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 2>they take it to the security of the. Studio they're, like,

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.399
<v Speaker 2>oh that's not. Good and then they hand the letter

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.280
<v Speaker 2>over to THE fbi because at this point the studio

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 2>is like a relationship with THE fbi just to Handle

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Baby grabel's extortion. Letters so THE fbi agents they read the,

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 2>letter and the agents are, like, well that's not, good

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and they go look up where they can find Miss

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Jane bean Of, Kaufman. Texas And i'm betting she sent

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 2>her a return address on her future baby ransom. Letter

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 2>probably either, way THE fbi shows up at her home

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and then the whole, pitiful deranged story comes out in the.

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Papers quote a drab little blonde admitted today she sent,

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Baby grable a threat to kidnap her baby because she

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:56.799
<v Speaker 2>wanted some quote easy, money, right newspaper people cutting on them.

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Now this is When Missus Jane bean and the rest

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 2>of the world learned That Betty grabil never even saw

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 2>the future baby ransom, letter, because as the papers also,

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 2>reported the movie star and her, husband band Leader Harry,

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 2>james didn't know about the threat until they read the.

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Newspaper her studio found the, rambling long hand note in

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>a pile of fan. Letters oh, yeah they're just cutting. Everywhere.

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Now if you're wondering, why why would someone send a

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:25.240
<v Speaker 2>rambling longhand note about Stealing Betty grabil's. Baby, yeah unless

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>she receives five, grand there's a simple. Reason as the

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 2>paper put, It Missus Jane bean twenty TOLD fbi agents

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>she tried to extort five thousand dollars from Miss grable

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>because she was tired of being poor and.

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Hungry, no, SISTER i get it, right that's not the

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 3>way to do.

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 2>It, WELL i guess she figured a hypothetically Stealing Betty

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 2>grabil's baby was the best way to fix her world.

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Problems would have been my, choice but it is a choice.

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Now Missus Jane bean A, Kaufman. Texas she tells THE

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:54.439
<v Speaker 2>fbi agents that arrested her that her motive was actually quite,

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 2>straightforward one might, say directed to the. Point as Missus bean,

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 2>said it seems like everyone In hollywood has lots of.

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.319
<v Speaker 2>MONEY i need some, myself.

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Right to.

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.439
<v Speaker 2>IT i, mean when you put it like, that hard

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.359
<v Speaker 2>to argue with. You so there you, Go. Elizabeth the

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<v Speaker 2>many extortions Of Betty Grabil my, goodness what's? Ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>Takeaway don't try and Extort Betty, grabel, right that's just

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<v Speaker 3>rules to live, by don't especially. NOW i told you

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<v Speaker 3>it's not worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, no that would be really hard, now a lot of,

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<v Speaker 2>digging get those shovels. OUT i THANK i don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know maybe what's your takeaway.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine is if somebody is the most famous woman in the,

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<v Speaker 2>world the one of the highest, earners you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>need more than just sending a fan mail, letter as,

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<v Speaker 2>like if that's your, plan you're gonna probably need to

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<v Speaker 2>buy a star map and figure out how to drop

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<v Speaker 2>it in through her actual mail. Saws maybe Kidnap Harry

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<v Speaker 2>james and see if she cares about, him you, know

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<v Speaker 2>like mix it.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, yeah and you're gonna have to have a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more of a. Plan yeah that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, yeah that would be really. Good actually think through

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing instead of being, like how much money

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<v Speaker 2>DO i want and then just asking for that in a,

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<v Speaker 2>rambling long winded handwritten. Note, okay so you in the

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<v Speaker 2>moon for a talk back a week, Always oh my,

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<v Speaker 2>god SUPER.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Get, hi.

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<v Speaker 6>GUYS i need to share something a little bit, ridiculous

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<v Speaker 6>and that is THAT i finally figured out Who elizabeth sounds,

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<v Speaker 6>like and that would Be Carrie, browns seen specifically when

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<v Speaker 6>playing the role Of, tony the feminist bookseller In. PORTLANDIA

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<v Speaker 6>freaking hot here and people are sharing that meme about

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<v Speaker 6>the heat being, hot and, YEAH i love you. Guys

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<v Speaker 3>Jill, Okay, hi thank You.

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<v Speaker 2>Jill he gave me a, Laugh, Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>Jill i've heard far worse than, that SO i take

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<v Speaker 3>that as a. Compliment, yeah, yeah as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Should it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, yeah that's very.

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