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Speaker 1: But Shack explain to them how you you really do

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to say that I'm the next voice.

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Speaker 2: I am the voice for those that made them a

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Speaker 2: And you know, a man's job is to protect, providing love.

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Speaker 2: I could always say, well, she did it, she did that. No,

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Speaker 2: Now I'm in a thirty times square for the house

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Speaker 2: I want people to learn and understand. You know, when

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Speaker 2: life to me was coming in the house and sit

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Speaker 2: and here in six different daddy daddy, daddy, daddy, and

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Speaker 2: you got the chef, and you got the fifty cars,

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Speaker 2: and you pursue. So it's not that I'm an experts

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Speaker 2: that I try to tell stories to let people know

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Speaker 2: that it was me. It was all made Like I'm

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Speaker 2: my father musclim man. So you protect, you provide, and

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Speaker 2: you love your woman. All three, not one, not two,

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Speaker 2: all three. I don't want to hear it like my

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Speaker 2: father worked three jobs, three jobs to give my mama

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Speaker 2: not a lot, but just you know, give give her,

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Speaker 2: not just in valor rules. So thank you for being here,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, miss miss misgive. No, that's real.

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Speaker 3: And I want to tell you that that's that's the

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Speaker 3: reason why we wrote the book, because what you said,

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Speaker 4: The first book.

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Speaker 3: In the second book, sometimes you got to be vulnerable

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Speaker 3: this is it ain't worth none of that. Like like

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Speaker 3: you said, coming home to an empty house, I don't

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Speaker 3: care what size your house is. If you got a baseball,

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Speaker 2: It hit me, well, it hit me in the beginning.

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Speaker 2: But it hit me because when things happened, my baby

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Speaker 2: like you said, I'm in on land on my house

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Speaker 3: Just said you the day she came, you got a

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Speaker 2: How many three? Four? Samantha Temmy Amber. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 2: to ask you a woman question. I was dating a

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Speaker 4: Of course No, yeah, of course I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that that in and of itself. We

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Speaker 2: She said I love you and I said I love

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Speaker 5: You weren't in love with your ex? You just loved

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Speaker 2: Love I love you to everybody. But she she's good

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Speaker 2: to me, like, I'm not gonna be like, oh, I

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's emotional cheating. I just think

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Speaker 2: Okay, but how is it emotional cheating if you don't

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be rude because we were nice,

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Speaker 2: It's not I love you. You know. She's going to

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that was emotional cheating. I think

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Speaker 2: If that was one of my ex wife and we

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Speaker 2: and even though it didn't work out, I'm not allowed

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Speaker 5: Even though I'm text. If a person randomly texts you

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Speaker 5: send you a text. That's not what happens. She's sending

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Speaker 5: very short, and if you play into that, then it's inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: She was fishing. I never heard the word emotional treating.

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Speaker 2: I got treated worse than when I was cheating. For

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Speaker 5: Big difference. If your man has sex with someone that

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Speaker 5: primal instinct to have sex with someone that he was

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Speaker 5: for her that hurts more, that cuts deeper. And that's

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Speaker 5: where the idea of emotional cheating comes from. It's if

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Speaker 5: I think that you have feelings for someone else, and

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Speaker 5: of yourself to them, giving of your feelings and your emotions. Yes,

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Speaker 5: there is such thing as emotional cheating, because that hurts.

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Speaker 2: More well coming from you. I will, I will respect

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Speaker 2: it because I always just said that I don't care

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Speaker 2: what no woman says. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. If she got a

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Speaker 3: text from my ex and she responded, I love you too.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. But I'm not giving on the phone.

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Speaker 2: And then I always say, when I read something, know

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Speaker 5: What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Like context?

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Speaker 2: Context? Who is it?

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Speaker 2: Context, who is it? Because you said in this gear,

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Speaker 2: Just because I.

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Speaker 5: Responded no, no, that sounds good, but that's not no.

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Speaker 5: It was like because the fact that you're engaging with

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Speaker 2: But I'm just responding this gig, I love I love

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Speaker 5: Not I love that but not in that. I'm not

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Speaker 5: emotional cheating. I don't need to be a psychic and

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Speaker 5: that's emotional cheating. You see what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And do you think men should be emotional? Because I

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Speaker 5: What do you mean men shouldn't be emotional? Emotional? In

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Speaker 5: what way?

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Speaker 2: I tell you white problems? The reason and the reason

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Speaker 2: why I say because as a man, you protect, you, provide,

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Speaker 5: We don't have problems. I don't not disagree with you

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Speaker 5: more or disagree with that notion more. My husband is

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Speaker 5: We work together, we support each other, we uplift each other,

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Speaker 5: dealing with this world. It's hard enough to be a

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Speaker 5: Because he's a man, he's supposed to deal with that

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Speaker 5: by himself. Yeah. No, I couldn't disagree with that more

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Speaker 2: Killed for that.

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Speaker 3: Not who I agree would. If your wife, your girl

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Speaker 5: And that's why you have to be an empowered human

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Speaker 5: being and a secure human being, because if you listen

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Speaker 2: Because to come back to what you said, women have

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Speaker 2: to go through a lot too, And I don't want

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Speaker 2: it because you've got to deal with the kids, you

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Speaker 2: the stuff you're going through. I don't want to put

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Speaker 2: extra on you. So that's why I'm not emotional. I'll

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Speaker 2: hold it back, especially if I can take care of it.

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Speaker 2: I'll just take care of it because I want you

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Speaker 2: to have just like you want him to have a

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Speaker 2: easy left. I want my wife Ei. So that was

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Speaker 2: my whole thought process. I don't want that you emotional leting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is because this is what happened.

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Speaker 1: It was us and a country Wayne, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I tell my wife all the time, and

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Speaker 1: him and country where we're like, no, I can't tell

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