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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis N.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Scrapping because we are taking off, we

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Speaker 1: have a lot to discuss with you today. Ohio Congressman

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's going to be joining us bottom of this hour.

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Speaker 1: Michael Wattley, former R and C chair and North Carolina

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Speaker 1: Senate Canada joining in the second hour along with our

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Speaker 1: friend Shannon Breen, chief legal correspondent at Fox News.

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Speaker 2: She's got a new book out.

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Speaker 1: We'll be talking to those fine folks, and we will

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Speaker 1: also be breaking down all of the latest news and

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Speaker 1: analysis and important goings on for all of you. Big

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Speaker 1: story still, big guest story, I should say, the ongoing

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Speaker 1: air strikes against the Iranian regime. Also some jitters people

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Speaker 1: are having around the price of oil.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to address all of this.

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Speaker 1: Here is Secretary of War Hegseath at a press conference

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Speaker 1: this morning, promising everyone that we're just getting warmed up

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Speaker 1: with all this stuff. It's going to get even more intense.

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Speaker 3: Play three today will be yet again our most intense

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Speaker 3: day of strikes inside Iran. The most fighters, the most bombers,

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Speaker 3: the most strikes, intelligence, more refined and better than ever.

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Speaker 4: So that's on one hand.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, the last twenty four hours have

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Speaker 3: seen Iran fire the lowest number of missiles they've been

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Speaker 3: capable of firing yet, just the bifurcation, just the trend

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Speaker 3: lines that we talked about on our first briefing.

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Speaker 4: You see, this is not two thousand and three.

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Speaker 3: This is not endless nation building under those types of

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Speaker 3: quagmires we saw under Bush or Obama.

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Speaker 4: It's not even close.

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Speaker 3: Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again, and.

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Speaker 4: Nor will this president, who very clearly.

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Speaker 3: Ran against those kinds of never ending, nebulously scoped missions.

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Speaker 1: So he is saying that everything is going according to plan.

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Speaker 1: We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one

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Speaker 1: arm behind our back from the sky entirely, and this

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Speaker 1: is going to continue and get more intense as the

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Speaker 1: days go on, that we will not relent. Trump last

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Speaker 1: night speaking at Doral, he was down here in the

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Speaker 1: Miami area near where I am. Here, he is this

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Speaker 1: has cut six. He's saying, look, we are making strides

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Speaker 1: toward achieving what we need to in Iran.

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Speaker 2: Play six.

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Speaker 5: We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective, and

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Speaker 5: some people could say they're pretty well complete. We've wiped

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Speaker 5: every single force in Iran out very completely. Most of

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Speaker 5: our n's naval power has been sunk. It's on the

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Speaker 5: bottom of the sea. It's almost fifty ships. He's just

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Speaker 5: notified it's fifty one ships. I didn't know they had that.

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Speaker 5: Many didn't last very long. And these are fighting vessels.

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Speaker 5: They're meant to fight, but they're not meant to fight again,

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Speaker 5: says We've struck over five thousand targets today, some of

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Speaker 5: them very major targets, and we've left some of the

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Speaker 5: most important targets for later in case we need to

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Speaker 5: do it. If we hit them, it's going to take

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Speaker 5: many years for them to be rebuilt, having to do

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Speaker 5: with electricity production and many other things. So we're not

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Speaker 5: looking to do that if we don't have to clay.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the strategy is bomb them back into

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Speaker 1: the Stone Age, so to speak, and wait until they

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Speaker 1: That's the big question that I have. What is supposed

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Speaker 1: to emerge here unconditional surrender, but contingent on what even

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Speaker 1: if they were to say it, What are the next

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Speaker 1: steps supposed to be. This gets to who's going to

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Speaker 1: run this country? Because Pete Hackseeth is saying very clearly

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Speaker 1: and Trump has said the same, We're not going to

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Speaker 2: Not happening.

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Speaker 6: I think we're in a balancing act where who is

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Speaker 6: the person we want to be in charge in Iran?

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Speaker 6: That is the one thing that we really haven't gotten

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Speaker 6: any indication of now. Simultaneously, I understand that why that

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Speaker 6: in Iran too. Do you remember Buck, how the Delci

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Speaker 6: although obviously Venezuela and Iran are very different. But when

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Speaker 6: But meanwhile, we were having back channel conversations with her,

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Speaker 6: That's a good question, right, Who are the people that

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Speaker 6: Israel may have been working with to help get all

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Speaker 6: and take out so quickly. All of those questions I

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Speaker 6: think are still incumbent upon us to resolve. But I

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Speaker 6: do think at a minimum, the message that we sent,

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Speaker 6: even if we pulled out tomorrow buck, even if we said, hey,

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Speaker 6: mission accomplished, we are out and we are going back

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Speaker 6: and we're not going to continue to bomb Iran, we

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Speaker 6: have sent the message, and I think it's a very

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Speaker 6: the world that we can basically take out any world

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Speaker 6: They know it, We know the world knows it. And

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Speaker 6: so the question that I have is to what extent

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Speaker 6: is there someone that we are amenable to that could

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Speaker 6: under which that could occur. I think that that's the

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Speaker 6: question that is still out there right now. I think

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Speaker 6: the argument that we were going to lose tons of

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Speaker 6: the wake of the last day. But this is one

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Speaker 6: of the craziest things I've ever said. When we came

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Speaker 6: panic over the price of oil and gas. It hit

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Speaker 6: it's now eighty five dollars. Now that's significant, but it's

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Speaker 6: not that much of a bump, and the straight of

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Speaker 6: fairly comfortably. We just haven't seen the spike that everybody

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Speaker 6: we want, And we have effectively neutered Iran for decades

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Speaker 6: to come in terms of the they have no air force,

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Speaker 6: I just I look around Buck and say, we're at

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Speaker 1: The whole IRGC, which we talked about a bit yesterday,

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Speaker 1: is set up to be a decentralized and survivable security

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Speaker 2: This is the challenge that we have.

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Speaker 1: So they've got the guns, they've got comps set up,

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Speaker 1: they have down to a very localized level terrain knowledge

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Speaker 1: just get shot by these either besiege or IRGC units.

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Speaker 1: So what do we do about that? This is where

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Speaker 1: things get a little open ended. I'm not really sure

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Speaker 1: what the plan is on this. We can keep blowing

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Speaker 1: their military equipment out of the sky, but ultimately whoever

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Speaker 1: It's also, by the way, big lesson about the Second Amendment,

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Speaker 1: how important the Second Amendment is, and armed citizenry right,

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Speaker 1: because they don't have that the people with the guns

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Speaker 2: That's it. Very few people in Iran are going to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to get out there and get into a

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Speaker 1: with all that, Clay, I think that the military side

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Speaker 1: of this is showing incredible. Everything that Hegseeth and Trump

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Speaker 1: have been set about this, It's true. It's been an

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Speaker 1: amazing display of US military capability. Does this go beyond

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Speaker 1: this month? I don't think so. Does this end with

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Speaker 1: this end with a new government in Iran, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. That's where I come down on this one. Here,

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Speaker 1: by the way, here's Hegsath saying this morning has cut

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Speaker 1: for Clay just saying they're going to take this to

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Speaker 1: the end until the enemy says we give up.

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Speaker 3: Play for destroy their missile stockpiles, their missile launchers and

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Speaker 3: their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them,

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Speaker 3: two destroy their navy, and three permanently deny Iran.

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Speaker 4: Nuclear weapons forever.

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Speaker 3: It's a laser focused maximum authority mission delivered with overwhelming

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Speaker 3: and unrelenting precision.

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Speaker 4: No hesitation, no half measures.

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Speaker 3: As President Trump declared yesterday, we're crushing the enemy in

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Speaker 3: an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We

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Speaker 4: But we do so. We do so on our timeline

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Speaker 2: Sounds good. I hope we get there. How many people

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Speaker 6: How many people do you think we have named that

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Speaker 1: I don't think we even have a list of I

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Speaker 1: we think would be We're hoping they emerge, that's my guess. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: Do you think Israel does because it seems like they

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Speaker 6: have basic full optics. It feels like on some level

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Speaker 1: Of those things, I think finding in Iranian who doesn't

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Speaker 6: It's very I wonder whether you could publicly hate Israel

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Speaker 6: I think the long run here, look, if you want

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Speaker 6: to tie Venezuela and Iran together, I think the long

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Speaker 6: going forward when this situation is ended than we did

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Speaker 6: before and when you combine it with the United States

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Speaker 6: ability to produce a ton of oil and gas. You

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Speaker 6: know this, but because this was a conversation that when

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Speaker 6: big one. The Middle Eastern countries which basically had the

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Speaker 6: ability to curtail oil and gas shipments. It led to

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Speaker 6: like the petro dictator state power is altering in a

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Speaker 1: This is a reminder where any of you who knows

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Speaker 1: somebody who works for big oil in this country, works

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Speaker 1: for a natural gas company and oil exploration company, you

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Speaker 6: That's how we come at this one hundred percent. That

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Speaker 6: And by the way, the states that have rejected that,

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Speaker 2: Crazy people. How many Americans even know this really important trivia.

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Speaker 1: And you've got Saudi Arabia, You've got Russia, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've got some of these countries. You know which country

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Speaker 2: In the world. America?

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Speaker 6: It's America that people, No, it does, I mean, it

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Speaker 6: stuns people. We produce more crude oil than any other country.

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Speaker 6: all of us. No, actually, you should go thank an

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Speaker 2: Well the biggest proven reserves on the planet.

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Speaker 6: Welcome in Hour number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton show

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Speaker 6: headline on Fox Business. Oil prices have dropped the most

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Speaker 6: Stock prices are up again today fairly decently, and MSNBC

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough spot.

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Speaker 6: If you were one of those guys who bought the

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Speaker 6: We bring in now North Carolinian Michael Wattley. One of

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Speaker 6: Roy Cooper. You have seen and helped to shepherd Trump

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Speaker 8: Chairman Watley, Well, really, look what came out of the primaries,

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Speaker 8: He's not going to support the President's agenda. He is

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Speaker 8: going to always want higher taxes. He's going to want

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Speaker 1: So my understanding is you are the recoveries are for

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Speaker 8: Well, what we saw when Roy Cooper was the governor

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Speaker 8: What President Trump has done, what we've been able to do,

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Speaker 6: The governor, former governor of North Carolina, you're running against

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Speaker 8: Well, he did answer the question, because he vetoed three

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Speaker 8: He's exactly wrong on this issue set and it really does,

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Speaker 1: What is the difference between you and Roy Cooper as

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Speaker 1: you see it when it comes to immigration enforcement. That's

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 8: I'm going to support President Trump I think that when

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Speaker 8: Roy Cooper, on the other hand, veto two different bills

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Speaker 6: I know that the answer is everywhere, every part of

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Speaker 8: Look, you nailed it on the head when you said

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Speaker 8: be extraordinarily close. You know, when Tom Tillis won this

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Speaker 8: we know that every place is going to matter. What

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Speaker 8: We need to dynamite them off the couch and we

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Speaker 8: that we need to do is in a typical election

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Speaker 8: in North Carolina, forty six forty seven percent of the

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Speaker 8: in North Carolina fifty four to forty five because he

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Speaker 8: on the table. Roy Cooper is right there in lockstep

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Speaker 8: for is President Trump's common sense agenda to rebuild our economy,

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Speaker 8: to make sure that our kids and our communities are safe,

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Speaker 1: Speaking to Michael Wadley, he's running for that Senate seat

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Speaker 1: that's opened in this cycle in North Carolina. I know

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Speaker 1: you've strongly supported Michael. President Trump's tax cuts, which have

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Speaker 1: obviously boosted North Carolina's economy along with the rest of

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Speaker 1: the country. But there's major affordability concerns in your estate,

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Speaker 1: Cooper wants to expand medicaid. Roy Cooper wants to spend

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Speaker 1: more money, and that's not going to help. What would

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Speaker 1: you like to do. What kind of pro growth policies

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Look, tax policies, regulatory policies, and trade policy sets

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Speaker 8: and particularly our farms.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 8: We need to create more jobs. We need to make

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Speaker 8: sure people are taking home bigger paychecks, and of course

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Speaker 8: we've got to get the cost download and that is

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Speaker 8: going to take a concerted effort. You know, one of

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Speaker 8: One Big Beautiful Bill that was passed by Congress last

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Speaker 8: year is extending the Trump middle class tax cuts, which

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Speaker 8: ended up being the largest tax cuts in history, and

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Speaker 8: making sure that no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,

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Speaker 8: no tax on social Security. You know, Roy Cooper, when

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Speaker 8: When he was the governor, he vetoed six different tax cuts,

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Speaker 8: going to support tax increases. He's always going to want,

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Speaker 8: going to always fight to make sure that we're going

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Speaker 8: to bring those costs down. You know, you mentioned housing, right,

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Speaker 8: So just today we've got Secretary Scott Turner, Secretary of

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Speaker 8: going to have a roundtable where we're going to be

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Speaker 8: really hard for you to set up and live the

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Speaker 8: American dream when you can't get married and buy a

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Speaker 8: house and raise a family. And so what we want

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Speaker 8: along with you know, real estate developers and lenders and

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Speaker 8: us to be able to build more homes and bring

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Speaker 8: down those prices. We need to bring you know, interest

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Speaker 8: rates down right. President Trump has been fighting on that

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Speaker 8: a lot. We need to have transparency in the housing markets.

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Speaker 8: We need to make sure that the HUD loans and

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Speaker 8: other programs they have are specifically designed to get more

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Speaker 2: How much is this right's going to cost total? Do

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Speaker 6: And and for people out there that might have the

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Speaker 8: Well, this is going to be the most expensive Senate

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Speaker 8: race in the history of the country. And we're seeing,

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Speaker 8: you know, experts on both sides of the aisle or

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Speaker 8: saying that we're going to be somewhere north of six

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Speaker 8: hundred million dollars that are going to be spent on

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Speaker 8: this race, which is going to eclipse what we saw

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Speaker 8: in Ohio and Georgia and Pennsylvania in the last couple

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Speaker 8: of election cycles. People want to support us, they can

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Speaker 8: go to Michael Wattley dot com. We are certainly going

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Speaker 8: to need help from all across the country, and we're

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Speaker 8: going to be in a position to win this race

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Speaker 8: when we have that support, because we are believers that

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Speaker 8: good policy is good politics, and we're going to be

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Speaker 8: on the right side of every one of these eighty

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Speaker 8: twenty issues, and we're going to be fighting for President

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Speaker 8: Trump's common sense agenda.

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Speaker 6: I want to just come back to that number quickly

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Speaker 6: because my jaw drop for people watching on video. You

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Speaker 6: think this race is going to cost six hundred million dollars, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a it's a stunning and on politics

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Speaker 8: these days, that this is what we're going to be

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Speaker 8: spending on there, you know. But we need to make

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Speaker 8: sure that we get our message out, you know. And

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Speaker 8: and President Trump did such a good job. What we

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Speaker 8: did on the campaign was make sure that we were

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Speaker 8: message out there. But it didn't work. If we didn't

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Speaker 8: have a good message, and so when we talk about

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Speaker 8: rebuilding the economy, restoring the borders, and keeping our kids

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Speaker 8: and our communities safe, and making sure that our military

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Speaker 8: has what they need. You know, as we're watching what

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Speaker 8: happens now in Iran, we need to make sure that

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Speaker 8: we're focusing on what are the issue sets that the

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Speaker 2: He is Michael Watley.

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Speaker 6: He is hopefully going to be the next Senator from

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Speaker 6: the state of North Carolina. I'm sure we'll be talking

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Speaker 6: to you a lot. That six hundred million dollar battle

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Speaker 6: that is extraordinary, sir, get your rest and be ready.

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Speaker 8: We're ready to go and really appreciate you and your listeners.

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Speaker 2: That is Michael.

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Speaker 2: There se hundred million. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 6: congratulations on the new book. Let me make sure that

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Speaker 2: For the New York Times.

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Speaker 6: And Shannon, I'll get to the book in a sec,

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Speaker 6: but let me start with this. We're still expecting really

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Speaker 6: these to come down? And what do you think has

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Speaker 7: Well, Gay.

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Speaker 9: Good to hear your voice. It's great to be with you, guys,

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me. We probably will get another round

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Speaker 9: of opinions starting the week of March twenty third. They're

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Speaker 9: back at arguments or arguments then, So listen. It's the

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Speaker 9: court's world. We're just living and they could get these

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Speaker 9: opinions any time we want. But that's kind of my

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Speaker 9: educated guests. You know, we're waiting on one really big

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Speaker 9: one out of Louisiana that has to do with redistricting

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Speaker 9: what's redrawing these streets, So excuse me, the district So

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Speaker 9: I'm watching for that one. We've got a couple that

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Speaker 9: tests the limits of executive power, you know, the President

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Speaker 9: some other interesting ones that we're just kind of waiting

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Speaker 1: Jan and I want to ask you about the book

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Speaker 1: because I just went through the whole book thing and still.

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Speaker 9: Going through and congrats, congrats.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I'm sure you're enjoying your copy

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Speaker 1: very much. Thank you for your kind words.

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Speaker 2: Tell me.

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Speaker 1: What'd you write in this book and what if people

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Speaker 1: need to know? I want to dive right into it.

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Speaker 9: Well, listen, it's a group of stories from the Bible,

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Speaker 9: But we all have things that sometimes will make us

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Speaker 6: Shannon, you mentioned the Supreme Court decisions that are coming

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Speaker 6: a huge mess in general. So maybe you have the

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Speaker 6: perfect solution here is and I think we've talked about

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Speaker 6: this with you before. The tariff decision had so many

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Speaker 6: different implications, but the biggest still is out there. It

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Speaker 6: is what happens with tariff for refunds? How does this

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and listen, during the fights over the tariffs in

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Speaker 9: plaintiffs in those particular cases. So that was just a

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Speaker 9: small group of businesses. So I pressed, you know, Secretary Vessett.

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Speaker 9: Kevin hasseid others on this, like what happens to everybody

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Speaker 9: different companies across the spectrum saying we want our money back.

657
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Speaker 9: Well now CBP, because this money comes in through border patrol.

658
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Speaker 9: They say, listen, we're getting together a streamlined way to

659
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Speaker 9: do this. It's going to take us about forty five days.

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Speaker 9: I think they build the court recently to kind of

661
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Speaker 9: set up the way that you go about getting your refunds.

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Speaker 9: But there are a lot of lawsuits from companies who

663
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Speaker 9: saying we're not waiting for that, we want the money

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Speaker 9: back and we want a guarantee from the court that

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Speaker 9: you're going to pay us.

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Speaker 2: How do you think this plays out, Shannon, Well, you know, the.

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Speaker 9: President himself was frustrated that the court did not of

668
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Speaker 9: a specific, you know, framework for paying this money back. Instead,

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Speaker 9: he you know, said, oh, we're going to be kind

670
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Speaker 9: of in litigation for a couple of years. So that's

671
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Speaker 9: my question. Is the administration going to fight some of

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Speaker 9: these refunds or will they do as CBP has said

673
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Speaker 9: said of this framework, because you know, several businesses out

674
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Speaker 9: there have spoken publicly and said, listen the forms that

675
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Speaker 9: you fill out for these specific tears, it's always very specific,

676
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Speaker 9: so you can track you got the receipts, as the

677
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Speaker 9: kids say, to show exactly what money you've paid out.

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Speaker 9: And so it would seem with that in mind, if

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Speaker 9: CBP really sets up this framework for getting it done,

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Speaker 9: so that would expedite the process. But I think that

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Speaker 9: they are going to be those who press for litigation

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Speaker 9: to make sure that that now has made.

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Speaker 6: Good when you look, Shannon at the Supreme Court decisions,

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Speaker 6: the one that you just referenced on the on the redistricting,

685
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Speaker 6: in particular using race as a as a criteria, the

686
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Speaker 6: jerrymandering of race. I've seen some stories that that could

687
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Speaker 6: flip twenty different districts, particularly in the South, if that's tossed.

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Speaker 6: My suspicion I'm curious if you would sign on, is

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Speaker 6: that the Court is going to wait as late as

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Speaker 6: possible release that ruling. I think it's going to invalidate

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Speaker 6: those districts, but I think they want to do it

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Speaker 6: late enough that it doesn't impact the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 6: mid terms. You buy that or do you think there

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Speaker 6: is a possibility that they would interject themselves into that

695
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Speaker 6: aspect of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's such a great question, because that's what

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Speaker 9: we keep waiting for. Listen, if this thing comes in

698
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Speaker 9: the next couple of weeks, I do think you know

699
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Speaker 9: it's going to impact a number of states that can

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Speaker 9: make the changes before it's later, But if it comes

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Speaker 9: to the end of the June, it may preclude that process.

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Speaker 9: You're right from getting too close to doing anything about

703
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Speaker 9: the elections that are going to come in the midterms.

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Speaker 9: You know, the Justices will tell us they want the

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Speaker 9: Court to be viewed as a political as possible. They

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Speaker 9: don't want to get involved and looking like they're putting

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Speaker 9: a weight on the scale and a partisan manner the

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Speaker 9: other way. So I don't know where they're going to do,

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Speaker 9: where they're going to land with this. But you know,

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Speaker 9: the Chief Justice always tells us, when the opinions are ready,

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Speaker 9: we don't hold them or time them to meet any

712
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Speaker 9: kind of specific political or other timeline. We release them.

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Speaker 9: So they haven't even given us a date for the

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Speaker 9: next release. But he said they don't play games with it,

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Speaker 9: that when it's ready, we get it.

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Speaker 1: Something I just thought about is we're here talking about

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Speaker 1: matters affecting the High Court and matters before the High Court. Shannon,

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Speaker 1: whatever happened to finding out who leaked the Dobbs decision

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Speaker 1: in advance of the actual decision. Very few people would

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Speaker 1: have had access to that, and it feels like that

721
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Speaker 1: just went nowhere.

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Speaker 9: Buck, I love it. One of my favorite questions because

723
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Speaker 9: remember this administration picked that up. When the Court had

724
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Speaker 9: the investigation, the Chief Justice kept it in house. Use

725
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Speaker 9: the Marshall Service use their internal workings to get it done.

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Speaker 9: We know some people were pressed on taking light detector

727
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Speaker 9: tests and those kinds of things, but we all know

728
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Speaker 9: if it was a clerk, and that's an if, if

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Speaker 9: we have no idea. They have these one year terms,

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Speaker 9: and if it's an internal Supreme Court investigation. When they

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Speaker 9: leave at the end of that clerking term, the court

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Speaker 9: kind of loses its reach over them. They can't take

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Speaker 9: away their employment, they can't do anything from that infrastructure.

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Speaker 9: And there are a lot of critics on the outside

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Speaker 9: who said this should have been farmed out, we should

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Speaker 9: have run a DJA or some other federal investigative body.

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Speaker 4: To do this.

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Speaker 9: Well, then you know, when Dan Mongino was part of

739
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Speaker 9: the administration, he talked a couple of times about this,

740
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Speaker 9: saying the dog's decision is still on our list of investigations,

741
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Speaker 9: like we're going to try to find out. So if

742
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Speaker 9: the court cooperates with them, that's one thing. But if

743
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Speaker 9: the court's not cooperating and turning over all the details

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Speaker 9: of what their internal investigation found, I'm not sure how

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Speaker 9: you kind of pick up the threats at this point.

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Speaker 6: We want you to go buy her book the book

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Speaker 6: is Nothing is impossible with God, eleven heroes, one God,

748
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Speaker 6: endless lessons in Overcoming Shannon Bream, let me hit you

749
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Speaker 6: with this because I haven't heard this disgust in earnest.

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Speaker 6: But a big part of what might happen in the

751
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Speaker 6: Senate is who's going to control it? Right this could

752
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Speaker 6: be the last year that President Trump has control of

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Speaker 6: the United States Senate. Have you heard any discussions about

754
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Speaker 6: the possibility of some of the older justices, maybe a

755
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Speaker 6: Justice Alito for instance, deciding that this is the time

756
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Speaker 6: to step down because he knows that his confirmation would

757
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Speaker 6: be someone who shares many of his judicial philosophies. Whereas

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Speaker 6: if you wait until you know January, you could end

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Speaker 6: up in a situation where Ruth Vader Ginsburg found herself

760
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Speaker 6: or other justices have found themselves, where your health is

761
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Speaker 6: at the beck and call of a political universe. You

762
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Speaker 6: don't control what discussion, if any is, is about the

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Speaker 6: Supreme Court right now.

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Speaker 9: Oh guys, this is one of our favorite parlor games

765
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Speaker 9: in DC, especially in the Supreme Court Press corps like

766
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Speaker 9: it gives ulcers to all of us trying to figure

767
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Speaker 9: this out and figure out what they're going to do,

768
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Speaker 9: because you guys know, these confirmation battles have gotten so

769
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Speaker 9: heated the last few rounds that when somebody decides to

770
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Speaker 9: step down, it triggers all kinds of panemonium in DC.

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Speaker 9: Then you're right, and you got to look to the

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Speaker 9: midterms and see does the Senate lose control, which would

773
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Speaker 9: make it really hard. It's already difficult because you're not

774
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Speaker 9: even guaranteed all the Republican votes. If you're a Republican

775
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Speaker 9: voter who wants to see President Trump to get another appointment,

776
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Speaker 9: they don't always stick together either, so you know, it's

777
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Speaker 9: a really heavy lift. But I've heard nothing. I mean,

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Speaker 9: Justice is Thomas and Ledo have both hired their clerks.

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Speaker 9: They have everything in place that you would think is

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Speaker 9: going to be in place for future terms. That's something

781
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Speaker 9: that they do pretty far in advance. So I haven't

782
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Speaker 9: heard any rumblings that anybody's actually thinking about it. We

783
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Speaker 9: like to speculate, but my educated guess is that Justice

784
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Speaker 9: Thomas is not going to leave the bench by choice.

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Speaker 9: He's having a good time. He fights every day. I

786
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Speaker 9: think when he shows up there every day, he does

787
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Speaker 9: it with such glee for his haters that I think

788
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Speaker 9: he's somebody who's going to stay as long as possible.

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Speaker 9: You know, we have no indication that Justice Alito is

790
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 9: even thinking about it, but I think he would step

791
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 9: down before Justice Thomas would, So I think June could

792
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Speaker 9: be very interesting months on that front.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let me hit you with this because I like

794
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Speaker 6: to look at the markets, and there are markets right

795
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Speaker 6: now on whether a new Supreme Court justice would be

796
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Speaker 6: confirmed before twenty twenty seven, and it's right at sixty percent. Yes,

797
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Speaker 6: So there are people making wagers that somebody Alito is

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Speaker 6: the favorite. As you just kind of ran through that,

799
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Speaker 6: you know he might be considering this. And again, you've

800
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Speaker 6: done this for a long time. If you wanted to

801
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Speaker 6: ensure who your replacement was going to be from a

802
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 6: judicial philosophy perspective, next year, that meaning this year might

803
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Speaker 6: be the last year where you have some certainty on

804
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Speaker 6: that for some time.

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Speaker 9: To come right and listen. As much as the Court

806
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 9: wants to be a political they're not blind. Listen. They

807
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Speaker 9: get the political trends, they get the local conversation, and

808
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 9: you do have to think about that. Remember when Justice

809
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Speaker 9: Ginsburg was being pressed so hard by the left to

810
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Speaker 9: step down, and it made our dig in her heels.

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Speaker 9: I mean, there were offeds telling her she had to go.

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Speaker 9: There were law professors calling for her to go, and

813
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Speaker 9: she was like, no, sir, I will go on my

814
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Speaker 9: own timeline and I'll go when I'm getting ready. And

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Speaker 9: then the left was so furious with her obviously passing away.

816
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Speaker 9: Well she was still holding that seats and you know

817
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Speaker 9: President Trump obviously getting to replace her. So it's a

818
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Speaker 9: really sore point. But a lot of people think on

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Speaker 9: the right even listen, you give deference to these men

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Speaker 9: who you know are the more senior members and the

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Speaker 9: conservative wing of the court. They given in decades of

822
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Speaker 9: their lives and we should respect that. So I don't know,

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Speaker 9: and I do think that both Thomas and Alito are

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Speaker 9: I'm to show you the door, that would make them

826
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Speaker 9: So I got to imagine that that's part of their consideration.

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Speaker 2: Third hour of Play and Buck kicks off. Now.

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Speaker 1: Show is flying by and we are covering so much ground.

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Speaker 1: A good time to remind you all there's a podcast

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Speaker 1: We had a great hour one. Some people say the

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00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: greatest hour one of any show this this week. Uh

881
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: so far, there's a great, great hour one of the show.

882
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: We're talking iron stuff, we're talking economy. We had Jim

883
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Jordan on. We had Shannon Bream on Great Americans. We

884
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: had Michael Wattley on. I think he's gonna win that

885
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: race Clay in North Carolina.

886
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: I really do.

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00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: I like Michael Wattley. He's a good man. They're gonna

888
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: they're money that's gonna be spending. It's just crazy how

889
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: much money is being spent by mostly Democrats.

890
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 6: A million dollars, he said, Buck, if you're watching on

891
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 6: video my job, it's rare that my jaw drops when

892
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 6: I hear a number. I was even projecting. Okay, it'll

893
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: cost a couple one hundred million dollars. Six hundred million

894
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 6: dollars for one Senate seat is outrageous, but it's indicative

895
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 6: of how much money is going to be spent. And

896
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 6: we just talked with Shannon Bream about this. You can't

897
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Speaker 6: be confident if you are the White House right now

898
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Speaker 6: that you are going to have control of Congress. This

899
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 6: might be your last opportunity. This year might be the

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00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 6: last opportunity of you, meaning the Republicans, to be able

901
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 6: to get anything through the House and the Senate. And

902
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 6: so if that's going to be true, it makes all

903
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: of these stakes that much higher, including as we were

904
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 6: just talking about the possibility of could there be a

905
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 6: Supreme Court vacancy, because Buck, if you don't make the

906
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 6: decision to go now in twenty six, twenty seven, and

907
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Speaker 6: twenty eight, if Republicans lose control of the Senate, nothing's

908
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 6: getting done. And then in twenty eight you have another

909
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 6: election and you don't know who's going to win. You

910
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 6: might have a split, and so you might not have

911
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: certainty on who your replacement's going to be for four

912
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Speaker 6: or five years, maybe longer if if you're a seventy

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Speaker 6: some odd year old Supreme Court justice.

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Speaker 1: Also some breaking news here that Gracie Mansion, which is

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00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: the mayor's residence in New York City, right like a

916
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: block or two for my little sister actually went to school.

917
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: I know the area very well.

918
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Speaker 1: Gracie Mansion has Well, there's a report of the NYPD

919
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: responding to a device, a suspicious device. Not immediately clear

920
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: if it was a hoax or real or not. But

921
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: and then look, this is getting more attention on. There

922
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: was that protest and the counter protesters, remember a protest

923
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Speaker 1: about too many Islamic radicals in New York. So Islamic

924
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: radicals were like, how dare you and then threw a

925
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Speaker 1: bomb at them. Kind of tells you a lot as

926
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Speaker 1: we were discussing. And now there's another suspicious package that

927
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Speaker 1: has been found. You remember, Clay, I think it was

928
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Speaker 1: the New York Post held the contest for the name

929
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: of a a strip club that at one point was

930
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Speaker 1: going to be opened a a all male strip club

931
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Speaker 1: that was going to be opened near the site of

932
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Speaker 1: a mosque.

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Speaker 2: You know, but you remembered, you know, I don't remember

934
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Speaker 2: this story at all.

935
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Speaker 1: I think it was New York Post and and and

936
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: and the winner was Suspicious Packages.

937
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: Uh, it's actually really funny.

938
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Speaker 1: Which was kind of a funny one if you're gonna

939
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: have a strip club across from a mosque, uh, you know,

940
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: because some guy wanted to make a point that they

941
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Speaker 1: won't allow a strip club near a mosque an all male.

942
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Speaker 1: It was like a Chippendale thing. This is a long

943
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: time ago. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Onion. I'm

944
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: pretty sure it was a real thing. But maybe it

945
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: was the Onion. It's a funny story anyway. Sometimes you know,

946
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: when when the facts in the legend conflict, you got

947
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: to go with the legend. But whenever I see suspicious

948
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: packages now I always think of that story or that, uh,

949
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: that urban legend, whatever it is. Now we have the

950
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: the CNN reporting on this is is incredible.

951
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

952
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: And this is where x I.

953
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: I know we sound a little bit like Elon super

954
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: fans here maybe something I'll just speak for myself.

955
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: I want to actually clay with the Tesla. I think

956
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: it's pretty big.

957
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 6: I am, I am. I think Elon is my fifteen

958
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 6: My fifteen year old son the other day was just

959
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 6: would you stop. You may or may not know this phrase,

960
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 6: would you stop with the Elon glaze?

961
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Speaker 2: Glaze is like when you were giving somebody praise.

962
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Speaker 6: I'm like, he's the greatest capitalist in the history of

963
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Speaker 6: the world.

964
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's fair.

965
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Speaker 6: To say that of anybody that's alive today, I think

966
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 6: he's probably done more in a positive direction from a

967
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 6: capitalist's perspective than almost anybody ever has. And did we

968
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 6: say this on the air? Was an off air AOC

969
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 6: was criticizing Elon Musk recently for being a billionaire who

970
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 6: had never accomplished anything. And Elon Musk just did a star,

971
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 6: you know, an asterisk and said trillionaire, which is Elon

972
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 6: is if he's not already soon to be the first

973
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 6: trillionaire in the history of the world. And I think

974
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 6: it's because he's built pretty incredible products. So to cut

975
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Speaker 6: you off, I might like Elon and be more of

976
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Speaker 6: an Elon Glazer, according to my own fifteen year old

977
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Speaker 6: than even you are. But so I'll sign on call

978
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 6: this in gen Z speak. Gen Z has some very

979
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 6: interesting First of all, I've noticed that that we grew

980
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 6: up saying dude the way they say bro. Bro is

981
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 6: now what dude was in the nineties. You'd be like, dude,

982
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 6: everything is bro. Yeah, that's one thing I've noticed about

983
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 6: the gen Z. I have a gen Z babysitter, and

984
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: I listened very closely to her lexicon, to her verbiage,

985
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 6: and I'm learning things all the time. The oldest man

986
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 6: way to describe how a young I listened to her

987
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 6: lexicon to or verbiage. How old is is your gen

988
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 6: z lass? That is that is a babysitter, twenty year old.

989
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: She just got out of the just got out of

990
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: the IDF actually twenty two years old, and she was

991
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: serving over in Israel. Now she's here and as she's great,

992
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: she's great with great, with speech, fantastic. But I'm learning

993
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: from the way that she speaks. And there's a thing mogging. Oh, mogging. Oh,

994
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: I've learned this thing. So so when Clay and I

995
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: took a photo years ago with Tommy Laren, and Tommy

996
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: looked like Tommy Laren and Clay and I both looked

997
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: particularly schlubby. Even for us, we were mogged by Tommy.

998
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: This is with it, right, that's the correct It's like

999
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: when someone completely overshadows you in a photo because they're like,

1000
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: they're so good looking. I think that's what.

1001
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 6: Basically you can mog people in all respects, but typically

1002
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 6: it is applied for physical like if you went to

1003
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 6: the beach and I went to the beach and like

1004
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 6: Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, mister Olympian style was there at

1005
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 6: the beach. He would be totally mogging us, like we

1006
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 6: would be the fat, slubby guys the beach and they.

1007
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 6: I mean, now he's pretty wrinkly and old. But yeah,

1008
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 6: so who is the most who's a super ripped guy? Now,

1009
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 6: there aren't as many famous ripped guys. I mean, I

1010
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 6: know there's tons of wrestlers and things like that. I

1011
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 6: think super bodybuilders have become. Did you see the guy

1012
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 6: who was, like I think won the Arnold Classic. The

1013
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 6: photos that we're going around does not even look like

1014
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: a human musculature. I mean, it looks like another species

1015
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 6: or it's crazy.

1016
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: How jack this is?

1017
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, well some of those guys can't put a shirt on.

1018
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 6: So it's hard to be like, oh, you're the strongest

1019
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 6: man on them. Like I'm not kidding, Like they can't

1020
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 6: take a shirt off and take a shirt on because

1021
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: they're so muscular, Like their shoulders don't work.

1022
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: They can't just like do normal things.

1023
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: Right, and while you're taking massive doses of anabolic steroids

1024
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: to get to that. And that's just known. I mean,

1025
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: there's this isn't like some sea everyone that you're not

1026
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: hiding it. You can't be a bodybuilder, a male bodybuilder competitor.

1027
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: It's interesting, the most competitive of the female body And

1028
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami, which is i think now probably the

1029
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: bodybuilding capital of the country, or certainly South Florida's got

1030
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: to be up there. Sooria is the attractiveness capital of

1031
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: the United States by far. Everybody's good looking, everybody's in shape,

1032
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: Like La is probably number two in terms of people

1033
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: who are just in great Miami's now number one. Your

1034
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: fitness level in South Florida is a minus three compared

1035
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: to the American average. So if you think you are

1036
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: like a seven out of ten in terms of fitness

1037
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: for your age category, you come to South Florida, you're

1038
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: like a four or five. It's just the way it looks.

1039
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: It applies to me too, trust me. I was like

1040
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: I came down here, I was like, I'm the fattest

1041
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: guy in the whole gym.

1042
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 6: Like it's tough down here well, and also it's tough form,

1043
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 6: so people wear less clothes, so it's hard to hide,

1044
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 6: Like you can't wear a bulky jacket. You don't get

1045
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 6: like if you're the fat guy in Miami everybody knows

1046
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 6: you're the fat guy in Miami.

1047
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't.

1048
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: I mean around here, it's it's a whole different thing

1049
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: with the year around beach where Well, okay, so looks mogging.

1050
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: We've explained to you.

1051
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: Now for gen Z speak, most of you, it's gonna

1052
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: be your grandkids and your kids that will know what

1053
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: mogging is. And you explained, you explain glazed. There's some

1054
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: other gen Z terms that I'll think of that are

1055
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: very very common usage these days. But anyway, going back

1056
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: to CNN here for a moment, Oh, who are we

1057
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: glazing Elon?

1058
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 6: Because Elon's incredible? He is, and you were saying the

1059
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 6: reason we knew this story from CNN to a large

1060
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 6: extent is because of Twitter and the way that exchanged culturally.

1061
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Twitter used to be a left wing

1062
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: propaganda platform and allowed conservatives on, but it actually was

1063
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: nefarious because it was always suppressing.

1064
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's if you're in a race, what's worse.

1065
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm the fast This is a race to determine

1066
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: who the fastest person in the world is. But I'm

1067
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: going to exclude, like most of the fastest people and

1068
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: then give a gold medal to somebody who's actually not

1069
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: the fastest, or if you put everybody in the race

1070
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: and then you have the actual fastest people you know,

1071
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: running with like shackles on their legs or running barefoot

1072
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: or so they might even run faster barefoot. But anyway,

1073
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying, right Like, it's actually more

1074
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: nefarious to pretend it's a honest platform. X now does

1075
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: not operate as a left wing propaganda platform, and it's

1076
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: not perfect, but it's a lot better than it was.

1077
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: And so CNN has had to put this out.

1078
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: A post regarding the two individuals arrested for throwing homemade

1079
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: bombs outside of New York City Mayor zor On Mamdani's

1080
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: home failed to reflect the gravity of the incident, thereby

1081
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: breaching the editorial standards we require for all our reporting.

1082
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: It has therefore been deleted. Now just to share with

1083
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Speaker 1: everybody what.

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Speaker 2: The tweet was.

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Speaker 1: This is some CNN's official account, which has millions and

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Speaker 1: millions of followers still. Two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New

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Speaker 1: York City Saturday morning for what could have been a

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Speaker 1: normal day enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather, but

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Speaker 1: in less than an hour their lives would be drastically

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Speaker 1: changed as they would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs

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Speaker 1: during an anti Muslim protest outside of zoron Mamdani's home play.

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Speaker 1: That construct of how to tell this story is like

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Speaker 1: clinically insane. I mean, you could do this with anybody,

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Speaker 1: you know. It's like Osama bin Laden was having just

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Speaker 1: another day eating some chunks of goat in a cave

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, thinking about a Puranic verse, and.

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Speaker 2: Then I mean though them all of a sudden on

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Speaker 2: his TV the planes ran into the buildings, like what

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Speaker 2: are you doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: And this is where it becomes significant to me. A

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Speaker 6: lot of times people can screw up. I've written a lot,

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Speaker 6: you've written a lot. We talk a lot four hours

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Speaker 6: plus every day, variety of different topics. To me, what

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Speaker 6: is an utter indictment of what you just read that

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Speaker 6: when viral this morning is it's a product of the

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Speaker 6: culture of CNN. In other words, you know this articles

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Speaker 6: don't go up on CNN dot com without having been

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Speaker 6: vetted by multiple editors. And I would submit that a

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Speaker 6: CNN account does not tweet something out without it having

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Speaker 6: the ability to have been overseed by multiple editors, which

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Speaker 6: is a good thing.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 6: You don't want CNN suddenly tweeting out one hundred percent

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Speaker 6: inaccurate news because it could be very traumatic to the

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Speaker 6: nation as a whole. Right if suddenly CNN said, Hey,

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Speaker 6: something awful has happened to President Trump and it's not

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Speaker 6: true at all, it could alter the marketplace people see

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Speaker 6: on stock markets everything else. By the way, Caroline Levitt

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Speaker 6: has started a briefing and we will be updating you

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Speaker 6: on what she is saying there. But all of that

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Speaker 6: is to say, this is the culture of CNN that

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Speaker 6: must be ripped out, root and branch. And this is

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Speaker 6: why for those of you out there who didn't care

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Speaker 6: CBS News was a mess. I think CBS News has

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Speaker 6: gotten better under new ownership. I think that similarly, CNN

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Speaker 6: needs to be reimagined and redefined and rehabitabilitated based on

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Speaker 6: And that tweet and that story is a perfect example

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