WEBVTT - Get the Most Out of Education (How-To Monday)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, ba fam, I am so excited to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you another how To throwback. I hope you guys enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>this and while you're listening, don't be shy. Leave us

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<v Speaker 1>a review. We will read them on the show. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just love y'all so much. Okay, here is our

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<v Speaker 1>how To episode for this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey, hey, look, yes, I was like I always

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<v Speaker 2>forget our damn sorry y'all. Hey, hey, hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're black, We're.

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<v Speaker 2>Brown, ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition, we're extra black brown

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<v Speaker 2>today and stew we have a guest today. Her name

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<v Speaker 2>is Robinson. Let me read you a little taste about

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<v Speaker 2>miss Lacy. First of all, she is an educator like myself,

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<v Speaker 2>so you already now it's on like Donkey Kong. Lacey

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<v Speaker 2>is the president and CEO of Unbounded, which is an

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<v Speaker 2>education organization that offers standardize that offers standards aligned resources

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<v Speaker 2>and immersive professional learning for teachers and leaders seeking seeking equity.

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<v Speaker 2>She has over twenty years of experience and education and

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<v Speaker 2>focuses on helping educators in school systems disrupt systemic racism

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<v Speaker 2>and its legacies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and she's the author of a new book. See

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<v Speaker 2>if y'all watch me on YouTube, like I'll be telling

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<v Speaker 2>y'all can see the book. It's beautiful yellow. It is

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<v Speaker 2>called Justice Seekers, Pursuing Equity in the Details of Teaching

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<v Speaker 2>and Learning. As we both got our books out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know black goes so good with yellow.

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<v Speaker 3>You see, look at that looks so that's blue.

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<v Speaker 2>So welcome to the podcast, Lacey. You so excited. How

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<v Speaker 2>I met Lacey? She just dope, I'm not gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>all your business, girl, but just to meet adult black

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<v Speaker 2>woman on social media, like we should connect, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we literally did. It was just on something like hey girl, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we spoke for three hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I told somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, if that had been a first date,

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<v Speaker 4>that would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been a perfect first date, like like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm met my spirit I'm at my spirit person and

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen her in person.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, it was Honestly, it was awesome. We just

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, some people you just connect with, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it was. We got connected on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>had a phone call that I thought it'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty minutes. No, Like I told the lady to

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<v Speaker 2>walk with me. I walk, we talk, we cried, we laughed, chat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about BSF now. And so when I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that she had a book coming out, I was like, Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>come on the podcast. Hello, let's promote this book. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But honestly, so much your story is so interesting, Lacy,

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<v Speaker 2>because so many of our listeners have like pivot stories,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So I would love for you to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of share how because one y'all might not be familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with Unbounded. But it's not a small nonprofit, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>They got a big budge, right lady. Sixty million?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh shoot, we are we are our way there. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>say close to forty forty three, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, forty million, you know, now something like we have.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a for profit and nonprofit side, and my

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<v Speaker 3>goal is one hundred million. You know, I mean dream right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean into reality. So and I have we

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<v Speaker 3>we're about one hundred and ten employees across the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we do three national convenience I have the

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<v Speaker 3>next final Convenient that's happening this season in DC next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Last month, in June, we had our Standards Institute Convenient,

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<v Speaker 3>where almost two thousand educators from across the United States

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<v Speaker 3>got together and for an entire week and did what

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<v Speaker 3>we call made their brain sweat around standards, aligned curriculum,

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<v Speaker 3>and the equity that is essential to close the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>gap here in the United States. So just excited and

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<v Speaker 3>feel really blessed to lead this organization.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that. So how but you didn't always?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously no one starts off as a president and CEO, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So what was your trajectory? Like, how did you get here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? My gosh, okay, So like you, I started out

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<v Speaker 3>as an early childhood teacher.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually taught in an early childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Center to put myself through undergrad I went to the

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<v Speaker 3>Florida A and M University, thank you very much. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really want to be a teacher.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to be an actress.

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<v Speaker 3>And my mother was like, I'm going to need you

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<v Speaker 3>to get a four to one k and have some

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<v Speaker 3>health infits, and so she's like, I've watched you as

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<v Speaker 3>from the time you were a child. You love children,

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<v Speaker 3>you love reading, you love teaching people, and you're a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit bossy. So I think you should try being

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<v Speaker 3>a teacher. And so I went into the teaching profession.

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<v Speaker 3>I started an undergrad and by the time I reached

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<v Speaker 3>my junior year, it became am a calling, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>could literally feel my spirit lift and soar when I

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<v Speaker 3>thought about the potential that is yielded in a classroom

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<v Speaker 3>when you have the right mix of a teacher that

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<v Speaker 3>is dedicated, that is well prepared, that has the passion

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<v Speaker 3>students regardless of social economic status, regardless of background, but

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<v Speaker 3>have that desire, you know, that desire that like the

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<v Speaker 3>three and four year olds have when they're learning, and

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<v Speaker 3>the hunger, the right materials, the support, Like what all

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<v Speaker 3>those things are mixed in. I'm telling you, you know

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<v Speaker 3>this persthand magic happens in classrooms. We see it on

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<v Speaker 3>a daily basis. And so that's what started to drive

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<v Speaker 3>me from there. Honestly, it was a set of unforeseen

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<v Speaker 3>opportunities that I never said no to. So when I

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<v Speaker 3>went to do my residency, somebody said, you should go

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<v Speaker 3>observe Marva Collins Preparatory School in Cincinnati. If no one

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<v Speaker 3>knows about Marva Collins, please look her up. She is,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, one of my original She ros African American

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<v Speaker 3>women in the city of Chicago had enough with the

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<v Speaker 3>way her kids were being schooled.

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<v Speaker 4>And decided to open up her own classroom in her

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<v Speaker 4>living room in Chicago, and word got out in the

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<v Speaker 4>neighborhood that her kids were not only learning but excelling,

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<v Speaker 4>and the neighbors started bringing their kids, and all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden, her living room is packed, and regardless of

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<v Speaker 4>where the students were, they were learning Shakespeare and Chaucer

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<v Speaker 4>and algebra. Like she had just this insurmountable belief that

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<v Speaker 4>brown and black children have all the potential to become

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<v Speaker 4>whatever they want, and when we set the right environment

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<v Speaker 4>for them, they can learn.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got an opportunity to intern in a school

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<v Speaker 3>that was modeled after her schools. I got an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to go live in Germany and observe after school programs

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<v Speaker 3>on dods, and also get opportunity to look at how

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<v Speaker 3>kindergarten is done Europe very different. I got an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Columbia University and work for someone who's

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<v Speaker 3>a really big gurgu. Well I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 3>their name.

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<v Speaker 4>My first lent sent around professional development.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't even know there was a career professional development.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you could be a teacher or a principal,

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<v Speaker 3>but a professional developer I never even heard of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then became a principal with new leaders, started to

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<v Speaker 3>work for new leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>After becoming a turnaround principal.

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<v Speaker 3>Coaching and then lo and behold, honey, I went and

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<v Speaker 3>applied to this company called Unbounded. Didn't get the job

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<v Speaker 3>the first time around, which is I always tell people,

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<v Speaker 3>is a testimony, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Because right ever, no, and.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't. They didn't hire me, but they said come

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<v Speaker 3>back and facilitate at one of our national convenience and

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<v Speaker 3>I did that and all of my I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>gifts and talents, and they invited me to apply again

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<v Speaker 3>for a job at Unbounded and I worked first. I

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<v Speaker 3>was a senior director. That's the other thing too, Get

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<v Speaker 3>in because if it's meant to be, you will fit in, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have gifts and talents, and those gifts and

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<v Speaker 3>talents have an opportunity to shine. Don't worry about what

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<v Speaker 3>level you come in on, because those gifts and talents

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<v Speaker 3>are going to carry you. And that's what happened. Month

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<v Speaker 3>after month, I kept getting a promotion, to the point

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<v Speaker 3>where my mother was like, now, what is you doing

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<v Speaker 3>over there? Did they promote you? Everything? For me? And

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<v Speaker 3>I went from senior director to chief and then got

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity where they allowed me to take their standards institute,

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<v Speaker 3>their national committee, and add some touches to it and

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<v Speaker 3>shift it and make it about equity, which is one

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<v Speaker 3>of our pervasive issues in education today.

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<v Speaker 4>And we took off our sales, our revenue sword.

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<v Speaker 3>Already getting weight less for people to come to our institutes.

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<v Speaker 3>And my board at the time needed to replace the

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<v Speaker 3>CEO and kenye me and said do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like all teacher to Girden and CEO. I'm gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>something forty million dollar. You know, it's just like what

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<v Speaker 2>I just I hope listening to that, y'all are like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that. You know sometimes you think you're stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in a place, or how are your skills transferable? But

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<v Speaker 2>they are, ye know they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Especially I want all I hope educators because I

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<v Speaker 3>know it's tons of them that listen to you and

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<v Speaker 3>follow you. I want them to understand something. Number One,

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<v Speaker 3>your gifts and talents are beyond measurable. We can only

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<v Speaker 3>capture a snapshot in that evaluation if it's any good. Second,

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<v Speaker 3>of all, we are some of the most creative. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>look at yourself, self sufficient, magvering kind of professionals you

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<v Speaker 3>will find, okay, And I think you also have to

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<v Speaker 3>allow yourself time to develop. Who said you got to drop.

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<v Speaker 4>It to a career and be instematic?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's true. I think that, Like I think so

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<v Speaker 2>many of us don't realize. Like I talked for ten

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<v Speaker 2>years and then that it was that skill. People always

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<v Speaker 2>ask me, what do I credit the success of the budgetista?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like that preschool classroom. I learned all I

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<v Speaker 2>need to learn about leadership, about presentation, about different personalities,

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<v Speaker 2>about like you know, about management. I mean, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it all and so so many of the skills.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I saw this really fun meme about like first

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<v Speaker 2>stay at home moms who think they can't join the workforce,

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<v Speaker 2>and then listed all of the the skill sets that

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<v Speaker 2>these stay at home moms have that absolutely translate into

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<v Speaker 2>the workforce. So no, I love that. So what made

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<v Speaker 2>you decide with all of this knowledge and all this experience,

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<v Speaker 2>Is this your first book? Justice Seekers?

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<v Speaker 3>It is, it's my first published book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what made you decide to write it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I will tell you I've been a storyteller since

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<v Speaker 3>I was a child. Storytelling runs in my family. I

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<v Speaker 3>always dripped of being a writer from the time I

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<v Speaker 3>think I was like five years old.

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<v Speaker 4>Never thought my first would be a nonfiction piece.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a passion piece that I did with the organization,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do keynotes. I do national keynotes around the

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<v Speaker 3>United States and began to notice that the keynotes started

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<v Speaker 3>going viral. A big chunk of the keynotes is my

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<v Speaker 3>own personal journey.

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<v Speaker 4>I got an opportunity, which is rare, Tiffany. I got

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<v Speaker 4>an opportunity to stand on stage in front.

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<v Speaker 3>Of what I call it edgy sphere and make my

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<v Speaker 3>confessionals about being an educated right like admitting that I

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<v Speaker 3>did not always have the greatest.

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<v Speaker 4>Learning environment for my students because.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I didn't know the nuances of how

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<v Speaker 3>to teach reading, and I tried my hardest to get

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<v Speaker 3>my kids to learn, but without the proper professional.

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<v Speaker 4>Development, I was amiss.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I was a middle school turnaround principal, and

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<v Speaker 3>I allowed the system to put a.

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<v Speaker 5>Cloud of unbelief in my students over me because of

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<v Speaker 5>the zip codes they lived in, because of their social

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<v Speaker 5>economic status, because of the former reputation that.

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<v Speaker 3>The school had, and rather than seeing my kids for

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<v Speaker 3>the beauty and the gifts and the talents and who

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<v Speaker 3>they were, I saw them as this group of people

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<v Speaker 3>that in.

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<v Speaker 4>Some instances were nuanced, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Were nuisances to the system, and I made mistakes. I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted them to excel, but I wanted them to excel

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<v Speaker 3>what assimilation's lensed, because I thought that was the way

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<v Speaker 3>that I made it. And it wasn't until I left

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<v Speaker 3>the principalship and I had time to sit back and

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<v Speaker 3>think as an educator and realized that my own internal

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<v Speaker 3>meter about who I was as a black woman, as

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<v Speaker 3>a black child, as a black student, who I showed

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<v Speaker 3>up as a teacher and a principal was based off

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<v Speaker 3>of my own internalized racist beliefs and values, and that

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<v Speaker 3>there were times, as much as I believed in my students,

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<v Speaker 3>those values superseded what I did. And so as I

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<v Speaker 3>started to reflect, I started writing to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at the keynotes that I did and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>seek justice, Justice for our students, justice for our teachers,

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<v Speaker 3>but most importantly, justice for this nation because we're at

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<v Speaker 3>a time where we don't have anything any more time

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<v Speaker 3>to waste.

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<v Speaker 4>So I started writing it down and I kept saying

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<v Speaker 4>to people in the organ.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I got a book. I got a book.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a book. And they were like, Lacey, if

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<v Speaker 3>you say you're gonna do it, we know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do it, go and write it. So my yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I got help from unboundd community.

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<v Speaker 3>I got people in the community, smart people, superheroes I

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<v Speaker 3>call them. But that's what the book is. It's an

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<v Speaker 3>amalgamation of my story as a student teacher, principal. Our

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<v Speaker 3>story is unbound.

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<v Speaker 2>It No, I love that, So what do you well, one,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like, aside from the book, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think some of that? Because one of my friends, doctor artis,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna put some respect on her name. But Maria

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<v Speaker 2>to me, Maria is a vice superintendent of New York

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<v Speaker 2>Public Schools, which is the largest school district, yes, in

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, and she was just sharing like what a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time they're having recruiting teachers, just because it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy time. I know, I left the classroom because

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<v Speaker 2>it was too much. But as if someone is listening

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<v Speaker 2>in the considering going into education, or they are a

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<v Speaker 2>teacher already, what can they do to be a justice

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<v Speaker 2>secret because like you said, sometimes you have this own

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<v Speaker 2>bias that you bring in with you because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>on line until I grew up in a very African

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<v Speaker 2>household and then I went to I but in school,

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<v Speaker 2>my school, I lived in Westfield largely, which was very white,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was like African at home, White at school,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I had not although I am black, I

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<v Speaker 2>had not had a lot of access to Black American

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, of course it's not a monolith, but

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<v Speaker 2>the experience, you know, not fully and completely because like

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<v Speaker 2>at home, I just didn't get that, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I got to teach in Newark, you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>course new Ork, like I said, does not represent all

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<v Speaker 2>black the whole African American experience. But one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I brought with me was if you just work

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<v Speaker 2>hard enough, the bootstraps, you know, like the same as you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like bootstraps, like you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I can't to teaching this preschool where the babies were

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<v Speaker 2>so smart. Our kids are so dag all smart. But

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<v Speaker 2>they were also coming to say, like I remember went

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<v Speaker 2>to the park once and one of the little boys

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<v Speaker 2>got poked by a needle that was left behind. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like what, And I just remember, like, so, my

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<v Speaker 2>classroom was at the bottom of a of a senior

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<v Speaker 2>building but also SSI social Security, so a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that had mental issues. But also there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of drug dealing in the building. And I distinctly

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<v Speaker 2>remember having to decide because we had a closet on

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<v Speaker 2>the third floor for the kids, like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>paper and scissors, any excess materials. So every time I

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<v Speaker 2>had to go to the closet, I had to decide,

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<v Speaker 2>do I want to take this elevator and maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in the small elevator with someone who is not

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<v Speaker 2>in their right mind, or do I take the stairs

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<v Speaker 2>where you don't know what you're gonna see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen in action prostitution happening. Once I ran

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<v Speaker 2>up the stairs and I smelled a sickly sweet smell

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<v Speaker 2>and when I looked, someone was literally smoking crack. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that said, wait, how is the baby supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>come to school talking about ABC's one, two three, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, this is obviously I know this is not

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't want to misconstrue thinking that this is

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<v Speaker 2>the African American experience across the board. But I had

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<v Speaker 2>never experienced that this is that this is what my

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<v Speaker 2>kids could be experiencing. Because I was twenty two, twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was blown away, and I threw that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>throw out the whole bootstraps. Girl, I'm barely making it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was hurting my spirit. How is a

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<v Speaker 2>four year old supposed to learn? So the question is

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<v Speaker 2>if someone is if someone wants to be a justice seeker,

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<v Speaker 2>how does someone kind of get past the bias that

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<v Speaker 2>they might bring into the classroom that's harmful for kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first and foremost, let me say this your experience

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<v Speaker 3>that you're talking about, there are hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 3>other educators across the United States experience the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to call it the robin Hood mentality that

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<v Speaker 3>I had. I had made up in my mind that

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<v Speaker 3>in some years I wanted to go and work in

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<v Speaker 3>what they call urban districts, you know, the districts that

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<v Speaker 3>are mostly bron and black. So I'm in digit in

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<v Speaker 3>this students low social economic status. And in other years

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<v Speaker 3>I would push myself to go work in the suburbs

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<v Speaker 3>because I wanted to see, like, okay, the kids in

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<v Speaker 3>the suburbs, the teachers in the suburbs. It sounded like

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<v Speaker 3>the land of good and plenty. But what I began

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<v Speaker 3>to understand, and I talk about this and justice seekers,

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<v Speaker 3>is that the teachers in the suburbs were justice ill

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<v Speaker 3>prepared as the teachers in the urban city schools that

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<v Speaker 3>I taught in, and that it wasn't Yes, we're materials

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<v Speaker 3>of plenty. Yes were experiences of plenty in those suburbs, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but teachers on average did not get supported. And so

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing I tell people about becoming a justice

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<v Speaker 3>seeker is one, come and join us, right, Come and

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<v Speaker 3>join our community.

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<v Speaker 4>I call it the Edgy Sphere.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to walk this road alone. There are

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<v Speaker 3>the hundreds of thousands of us across the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>We have our national conveniens.

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<v Speaker 4>We invite people to but we also have online opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a platform called the Ecosystem. You could go

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<v Speaker 3>on and join the community. You teach third grade and

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<v Speaker 3>you want to know, you want to hook up what

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<v Speaker 3>other third grade teachers from across the United States. Our

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<v Speaker 3>Ecosystem offers that, And I would say this, find your

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<v Speaker 3>edgusphere locally right, make sure that you are building the

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<v Speaker 3>community within your building and across schools and other educators.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Facebook, we got Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Start a collective educator page where you all are coming

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<v Speaker 3>together locally to support one another. Here's the other thing,

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<v Speaker 3>the professional development. That's one of the biggest issues I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in our profession. Tiffany, if you went to a

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<v Speaker 3>doctor and you had a cold, and you told the

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<v Speaker 3>doctor that you you had a cold and your throat

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<v Speaker 3>was sore, and the doctor pick said, let me see

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<v Speaker 3>your foot, and you say, well, wait a minute now,

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<v Speaker 3>I said that my throat was sore. Well what are

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<v Speaker 3>you looking at my foot for? And the doctor said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I ain't. I ain't really get a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to study grades anatomy. I got to the foot, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I ain't really had you would you

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<v Speaker 3>would take your paper, gown, hey, getting your things, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 3>and walk up out that office. When you look at educators,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe our profession is not looked upon the same

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<v Speaker 3>as other professions. We don't receive the same kind of

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<v Speaker 3>professional development that is ongoing, consistent and comprehensive, that is

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<v Speaker 3>up to date around research, and development that looks at

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<v Speaker 3>the landscape of global majority learners and gets us to

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<v Speaker 3>ask the question, how do I teach students and allow

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<v Speaker 3>them to come to school as their whole selves? How

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<v Speaker 3>do I teach my students academic English while honoring their

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<v Speaker 3>home language at the same time. And so I tell

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<v Speaker 3>educators all the time, you got to find a network

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<v Speaker 3>where you are professionally developing yourself. You got to ask

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<v Speaker 3>the system, what's the professional develop you're providing me on

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<v Speaker 3>teaching and needing? How do I become a better math teacher?

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<v Speaker 3>So those are the pieces that I really try to

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<v Speaker 3>push for folks. Join us as a community, find your

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<v Speaker 3>community local, look at the professional development that you're being

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<v Speaker 3>doused with. And for God's sake, this is the last piece.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta do a self examination. You got to ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>why am I standing in the middle of this classroom?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it that I What is it that I

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<v Speaker 3>as a profession what am I looking for? What am

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<v Speaker 3>I seeking? And what is it that I can offer

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<v Speaker 3>my students standing performing? I think when a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people ask themselves that question, did you become a teacher.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you couldn't think anything else to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Because and if that's the case, honey, you need to

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<v Speaker 3>go on. Indeed, okay, because this profession is worthy of

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<v Speaker 3>those who deem it as essential as their passion, as

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<v Speaker 3>something that they want to grow in, just like being

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<v Speaker 3>a doctor, a loyal, a candlestick maker, or a baker.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's true though, like it's not. I used to

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<v Speaker 2>always tell like my when I first started teaching, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had some coworkers that didn't really share my enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 2>for teaching. And I used to say, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>we were packing boxes, girl, I wouldn't care. You could

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever. You could cheat on the job, you could.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well you cutting out early, we could do

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<v Speaker 2>all that time. I'm like, we pack a boxes, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, but these are kids. Yeah, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>same kid that's going to either take your purse or

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<v Speaker 2>stitch you up in the hospital. How you wanted to go?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like, these are kids, And so you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to say, you know, I don't feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to know, like sorry, this is not the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of profession. There's no space for that here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, there are greatest commodity.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you ever think about that as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Nation, our greatest commodity, it's our youth, it's the future.

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<v Speaker 4>None of this AI or infrastructure or fly in the mars.

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<v Speaker 3>Is ever going to continue unless we properly educate the

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<v Speaker 3>entire masses.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are few, I believe, And let them send

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<v Speaker 2>me out to you, Captain my mom and showed us,

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<v Speaker 2>say what song is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Show them.

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<v Speaker 2>Google it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's chosen out the future, the late great Whitney that

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<v Speaker 6>song like give us a sin.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like every like graduation or whatever do at

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<v Speaker 2>that time, like we all say in that song.

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<v Speaker 4>And the children, the children have to learn to.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold that thought lazy. We have to pay some bills.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to throw to break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right back black and brown. What do you hope that

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<v Speaker 2>may be an educator or non educator, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>hope that people take away? Like, what do you hope?

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<v Speaker 2>What changes? What hope like guess mentally you hope they

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<v Speaker 2>take away and emotionally, but also what changes you hope

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<v Speaker 2>you know that they in their lives as a result

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<v Speaker 2>of reading it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I say Justice Secrets is my love letter

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<v Speaker 3>to educators, you know, and I really truly mean that, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you get a love letter, and the person

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<v Speaker 3>is expousing how much they care about you, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>also telling you like what they're concerned about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and what they appreciate, what ate about you, appreciate about you,

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<v Speaker 3>and what they want to see in the future, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what this is. It's my love letter to

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<v Speaker 3>the edu sphere. It's my love letter to the students,

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<v Speaker 3>and most importantly, I'm gonna say it's my love letter

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<v Speaker 3>to this nation. Because here's the thing. I what I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote and decided to include my own personal stories in

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<v Speaker 3>the book, and this is something I do in my keynotes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm the first step out to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>guess what I made the mistake? If I as an

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<v Speaker 3>African American woman who grew up in a single mother

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<v Speaker 3>household with some powerful figures right with some powerful people

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<v Speaker 3>behind me telling me you can do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you are your you are your best cheerleader. You know

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter what they think about you, keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>If I had all of that, and just like you,

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<v Speaker 3>attended predominantly white schools and still got the message I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't good enough and still got the message I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>included and very rarely had the opportunity to read, see,

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<v Speaker 3>or hear from people that look like me, let alone

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<v Speaker 3>the history that my people have been a part of

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<v Speaker 3>in this country. And dare I say the main character

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<v Speaker 3>in this country? If out of all of that. After

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<v Speaker 3>finishing my K twelve experience, I still grapple with who

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<v Speaker 3>I was. And it wasn't until I attended an HBCU

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 3>that it got hammered home. How brilliant, how bright? And yes,

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 3>you might struggle on math, Lacy, but guess what, we

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 3>can get you to proficient. We can get you to

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 3>proficient because we believe in you. And so I use

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 3>those storyes of what I thought I knew when I

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 3>knew better. I used the stories of the observations that

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I've had the privilege of having with teachers and leaders

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 3>and students, those moments. You know, there's a little girl

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I talk about in the book. I was doing a

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<v Speaker 3>walk through the New Orleans and I think about this

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<v Speaker 3>and it brings tears to my eyes. A couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, I was in a fifth grade math class.

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<v Speaker 3>A little black girl, braided, long hair, beautiful, all coco,

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<v Speaker 3>buttered up. You know, you can tell somebody to take

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<v Speaker 3>care of putting presses down her edges and had all

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 3>the bowls in her hair. And they were in a

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 3>math class just doing this wrote three plus three is

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<v Speaker 3>six fifth grade now and I'm walking through the classroom

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<v Speaker 3>and she grabs my arm and pulls me down and says,

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<v Speaker 3>will you be her teacher?

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<v Speaker 4>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Please? Will you be our teacher? And it's in those

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 3>moments as an educator that I was just whipped apart

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 3>because I knew what she was asking me.

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you see me?

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Do you hear me? Could you come and care enough

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 3>about me and what I'm learning? And that's not a

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 3>dig on the teacher that was in front of the

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 3>student who wasn't prepared. I'm gonna say that even the

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 3>principle admite it the teacher wasn't prepared, not the teacher's fault,

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 3>but the system's fault. And so it's those moments I

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 3>talk about in the book. I have a real truth

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 3>and telling moment in US as a nation in the

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<v Speaker 3>role that African Americans, Indigenous LATINX and other people of

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 3>color have played in the role of education, the misguidedness,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 3>and so I invite people to not just read the stories,

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<v Speaker 3>but to answer the questions in the text about themselves

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and their systems and their schools.

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<v Speaker 2>So you probably have heard the statistic by twenty forty

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<v Speaker 2>four that we will be for the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, say majority minority country. Yes, And so what

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<v Speaker 2>does that spell for education? If the minority majority of

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 2>people will no longer be white, that it will be black, brown,

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<v Speaker 2>and indigenous indigenous? Like, what does that look like in

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>the education system? How much more important is it to

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>have black, brown, and indigenous teachers? Knowing that you know

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 2>that we will be overly represented in the general population.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like the warning signs that are going off now,

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 3>the warning signs we are literally out of lace. You know,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 3>you know when your.

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 4>Fire alarm goes off and you overcooked your food, and

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 4>it's like, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>That is actually happening in education right now, and people

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 3>want to blame it on COVID. But I got news

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 3>for you. We were already in an educational pandemic before

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 3>the health pandemic even happened. We were already starting to

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<v Speaker 3>see the signs that we as a nation weren't paying

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 3>close enough to the development of educators, that we as

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 3>a nation weren't paying close enough to the pay you

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 3>know this, talk about this as an educator, and the

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 3>amount of sacrifice that is expected of you, even though

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>you gotta.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Pay bills, meet your mortgage, feed your kids, support your

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<v Speaker 4>family like everybody else.

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 3>We as a nation. The warning signs have been going

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<v Speaker 3>off since before Brown and Board of Education that in

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<v Speaker 3>order to educate us all, in order for this to

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<v Speaker 3>be these United States, where the pursuit of happiness is

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 3>part of our creed, you have to educate your masses.

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Horace Man said that when he proposed to public school,

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<v Speaker 3>and so the warning signs are going off. One all

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 3>students are struggling, but pride, all students are struggling. Broad

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 3>and Black students pervasively have been underserved in these United States.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I've doubled dog there somebody to go to their local

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 3>system and ask for the data and not see the

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 3>trend of broad and Black students versus their white peers.

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<v Speaker 3>Second of all, our GDP, wayman, now speaking your language,

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<v Speaker 3>GDP is at risk because if you don't educate the masses,

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<v Speaker 3>if they can't read, if they can't write, way Man, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really about to touch on I believe this is

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 3>the world according to the lakes. The reason why your

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 3>work is so essential is because your counteracting the first

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>misstep that happens. And you already know what I'm about

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 3>to say. People have a phobia about math, they have

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 3>a phobia about numbers. Brown and black people, nine times

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 3>out of ten aren't shown the representation, the gifts and talents.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Aren't told that you have the innate ability to be

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<v Speaker 3>a mathematician a financial analysis. And so what ends up

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 3>happened You become scared of numbers, let alone budgets.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about just numbers.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 3>And I dream of a day where your work gets

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>magnified because we have educated the masses of brown and

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 3>black children to understand that they have mathematical ability. They

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 3>understand the concepts and the foundational skills, and they could

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 3>be applied to budgets, engineering, food service, anything. So that

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 3>is our warning side. Now the cohort of teachers that

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 3>are needed, and I talk about this in the book.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, brown and black teachers aren't needed to

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<v Speaker 3>keep Jerome and Anna in place, that's how they've been

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 3>used in the past. They are needed because all students

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 3>need to see representation.

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 4>All students need to understand.

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<v Speaker 7>That people who are not from where you're from can't

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<v Speaker 7>be discounted, have to be included, and if we are

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<v Speaker 7>to continue to be these United States.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to start to educate our youth around that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna say it's about the teaching force. You

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<v Speaker 3>think you think we would be in such a dire

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<v Speaker 3>need for teachers if if they were paid the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they should be paid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in part yes, I mean I think also

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of teachers teach because obviously for the love,

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<v Speaker 2>not but the money. But also too, I think it's

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>not just the money. For me, it was also just

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>the lack of support. So I think in some part

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<v Speaker 2>that yes, you would maybe have more teachers apply. But

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<v Speaker 2>like for example, I look at I hear Maria talking

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<v Speaker 2>NERD pays well, okay, they pay very well, and yet

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>they're still struggling to attract teachers. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the money. I think it's also like, is

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<v Speaker 2>there a system in place to support these teachers once

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<v Speaker 2>they have the job.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the money, it's the system. Now let's look at this,

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 3>it's the legacies of community. So think about this. You

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>want to increase brown, black, Indigenous communities and education, you

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 3>can ignore their financial histories that they've had. So even

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 3>though and I'm not saying Newark doesn't pay well, because

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen their pay skill, it pays well.

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 4>But I want you to think about you're somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>That's being moved into a pay scale who's financial legacy

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 3>has never had had a leg up. Right, So let's

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 3>say you took out student loans. Your your mom and

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 3>your daddy, your grandmother, your auntie, they couldn't help you

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 3>get through school. You got the student loans. You already

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm gonna say. You're already behind you probably

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 3>credit card your way through school. And where you are now.

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>You're in newer public schools making the salary, but it's

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 3>not quite cutting it yet. And what ends up happening

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>you have to go work a second job, right to

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<v Speaker 3>not just pay your bills, but to try to catch

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<v Speaker 3>up from all of the financial legacy that you had missing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is, it's the salary, it's the professional development,

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 3>it's getting providing opportunities for educators to get a leg up.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about removing student loan, maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>should start with the education for us first, and.

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 4>Really mean it, and really mean it.

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<v Speaker 3>There needs to be more education around folks like you

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 3>coming into our school systems and saying to brown and

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<v Speaker 3>black cohorts of educators, let's talk about how we can

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 3>build your budget. Let's talk about how we can start

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 3>financial legacies so that you could get down into the

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 3>passion of teaching. There is a revolution that needs to

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.280
<v Speaker 3>happen in the teaching profession. If you want the brown

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 3>and black communities to play a role in it, don't

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 3>ignore their financial legacies that have been absent. I think

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 3>if we start to answer those questions, the professional development

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<v Speaker 3>paying them well, acknowledge how we can support them in

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 3>building healthy financial legacies for themselves, then that takes the

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<v Speaker 3>burden off of getting into the passion of teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Because honestly, when I think about when I was teaching,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was making decent money for the time

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>a preest GARL was making thirty nine thousand, but then

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I still toutored on the side because he needed the

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>extra money. You know, I still babysat on the side,

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and that made me an extra like five or six

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a year, you know, to try to close

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>some gaps. So no, absolutely, and I love that you're

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>right that I think folks don't understand. I mean, well,

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 2>the folks listening, you know, y'all brown ambition. But folks

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>who are not a part of this community do not

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>understand that my hundred thousand that I make is not

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the same as someone who's white and one hundred thousand

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that they make, because that one hundred thousand for them,

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 2>like Tashays the first girl to go she's the first

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>to go to college, so she's the one hundred thousands

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>for her, for granny, for couso, for mom or dad.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like that money. And then on top of them,

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>you took out student loans because other people did not

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>have to do so, and so on top of that,

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to like you don't literally get to start

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>at zero and build, you know, we're literally starting at

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>negative one hundred thousand, negative two hundred thousand, and so

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not the same. That money is not created equally.

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<v Speaker 4>So no, absolutely, And Tiffany, imagine this.

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 3>If you didn't have to tutor, if you didn't have

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 3>to babysit, could you have imagined using your time in

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 3>bettering your your self and your profession, maybe taking a class,

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 3>reading a book, joining a group. You know, when you

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 3>think about that and the impact that it has on

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 3>communities that we're inviting, that we want to be a

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 3>part of this educational landscape, you got to take all

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>that into consideration.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I love that because it's not because what I'm learning

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 2>more and more about my community is that it's not

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>just throwing money at the answer, you know exactly. That's

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I've been lately been on my soapbox

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to strong arm these organizations to say, like, yo,

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I've been teaching financial education for the last fifteen years.

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I've not built an online school that teaches financial education.

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I have subsidized so many over one hundred thousand students

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>have joined my online school, the Literature Academy, and we

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 2>keep the cost as low as possible. I have been subsidizing,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, so much of that. Just even just this year,

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 2>we had a financial education challenge that was totally free

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 2>and we educated two hundred and eighty thousand people. But

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 2>why I always got to come out of pocket? Where

0:36:58.480 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>are you big banks?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Do you want me to tap dance for you on

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 2>your to be a spokesperson? Why I always got to

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>come out of pocket, you know, like, and I'm just

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, no, I'm holding them to task. You

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.479
<v Speaker 2>come see me, No, tell me how you are going

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>to subsidize black and brown people getting free financial education.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I got to school. It works. It's seven years old.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already we've already educated one hundred thousand people. Subsidize that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like I would love to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>say to your point lazy, like, hey, you know, we

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>have all these educators that unbounded. Why not why not

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<v Speaker 2>fund them to have free access for one year to

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the literature Academy? Why why do I always have to

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>pay for that? You know? And so you just be

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 2>surprised because these companies have I mean I have gotten

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>contracts that are multiple six and seven figures to do

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>not multiple seven from my lips of God's Ears, one

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>day figure contracts to you know, to do next to

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<v Speaker 2>nothing as the budgetista, you know, like a little live

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<v Speaker 2>here on a stage there, and that's cute and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for it, you know, and I brought back into

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the community in the company. But I would honestly would

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<v Speaker 2>really love instead to say, hey, how much can five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand how many students. Can we can we educate

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 2>for five hundred thousand, how many students? I mean agent

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<v Speaker 2>for a million? You know, I mean not students like kids.

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about these grown people who are like if

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to worry about my personal finances, then

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I could be present here for these babies. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about the revolution, were about to start hunting, were

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<v Speaker 3>about to start revolution, Because think about the revolution that

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<v Speaker 3>you we could have if your financial university became a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the scope and sequence for undergraduates that are

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<v Speaker 3>going into education. You know what if the alternative program said,

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<v Speaker 3>come and join us, will not only teach you how

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<v Speaker 3>to be a teacher, but we'll also get you into

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<v Speaker 3>the financial university so you can learn more about budget.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my question to you. And this ain't no

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<v Speaker 3>dig and don't send me no emails and snaps or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever y'all stand out, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Riddle me this.

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<v Speaker 4>We prepare professional athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>Better than we prepare professional educators for their budgets and beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>And I ain't talking about you know, some people would

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<v Speaker 3>be like, well, there's there's some places that offer you

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 3>could buy a house, and honey, if you see some

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 3>of them, houses they'd be offered educated. First of all,

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 3>you and your husband or your spouseball have to be

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<v Speaker 3>buying the building in order to even move into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking out beyond that. I'm talking about educating them

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<v Speaker 3>so that they understand that I can be a teacher.

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<v Speaker 3>I can be an educator and I don't have to

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 3>babysit and tutor. I can figure out how to create

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<v Speaker 3>a budget, how to save, how to have vacation money,

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 3>how to you know what I mean? What about your taxes?

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<v Speaker 3>I said. I used to say, it's an educator. I

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<v Speaker 3>wish somebody would come and teach me how to write

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<v Speaker 3>off be all these materials I ended up buying as

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<v Speaker 3>a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you at the local buying fifteen judicters. It was like,

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<v Speaker 2>how many kids do you have? When I see the teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>I literally used to set aside money from my paycheck

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<v Speaker 2>for my baby. Yes, because you can't as a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally impossible as a teacher not to invest some

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<v Speaker 2>of your own money because there is a gap. So no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, and honestly, that's the soap op option that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on now. I am holding brands and things that

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to me the task to say, all that's

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<v Speaker 2>good on what you want me to do. You want

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<v Speaker 2>me to dance for a dollar, then do this for me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not even for me, do this for this community.

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<v Speaker 2>That my father would always say every time we graduated,

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<v Speaker 2>like from high school or college or advanced degree, he

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<v Speaker 2>would give the same speech to me and my four sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>He would always say, you are now at a different

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<v Speaker 2>level of life because of this education that you've now acquired.

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<v Speaker 2>And the beautiful thing about knowledge is knowledge, once given,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 2>can never be rescinded. They can't take this back from

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<v Speaker 2>your baby. And so that's the thing I am here

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<v Speaker 2>as a result of my father. He's in his eighties now,

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<v Speaker 2>but as a he has his master's and economics and

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<v Speaker 2>his bachelor's in finance, and so he poured that financial

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<v Speaker 2>education to my sisters and I. So it allowed me

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<v Speaker 2>to choose what I wanted to do based upon what

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<v Speaker 2>I love to do. You know, because I was able

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<v Speaker 2>to budget, I was able to learn how to save

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and start investing in all those things, even now start

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>with starting the budget, Nissa. I was able to do

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 2>those things because I knew how to live well below

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<v Speaker 2>my means. So I would have space to do this

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 2>thing that I'm doing now, and I always wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how could that be different for other people?

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 2>So I am on my soapbox crusade to get every

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<v Speaker 2>black and brown person access to financial education, but meaningful

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 2>culturally relevant because people are like, well, they could just

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 2>google meaningful culturally relevant financial education because some of the

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 2>stuff out here. Even I'm like, what are you saying

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 2>now that is a sense or you tell me, you

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 2>know you're telling me like, oh, you're talking about pull

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>myself up by my shoe strings. Oh you're one of those.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm good. No, meaningful culturally relevant financial education that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense for who I am and how I show

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<v Speaker 2>up in this world. And so I'm like, yeah, that's

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 2>so we gonna talk late. So like, what do I

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 2>got to do because I've already been partner. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll announce later, but there's a nonprofit that

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>there's already agreed, a huge one that everybody knows their name,

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of like work with us behind the scenes. So

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<v Speaker 2>basically kind of white label online school because oftentimes, which

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 2>is so crazy, a brand or a bank or a

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>funder or whatever will be like, hey, nonprofit, we want

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 2>to give you a bazillion dollars to do this financial

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.919
<v Speaker 2>education thing. And they're like, well, why don't you go girl.

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 2>That's a black owned financial education company that's been existed.

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<v Speaker 2>But the menu of you white label.

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<v Speaker 3>It's part oh child, here's all the well.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to do all that. So I said, all right, cute,

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what we're gonna do. Go ahead and white label

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 2>what we've already created and already vetted. I mean, I

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 2>had these women from Stanford come and do a and

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to make sure all my research and everything

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>that I believe was true was true. We made some

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 2>changes based upon what they've said. We've retaped everything. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like it's frustrating because when I show up in

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<v Speaker 2>all my black and brownness and womanness, yea, you know,

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>there's doubt about what I'm capable of. But to slap

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, like some you know, old ancient like you know,

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>name on it, and all of a sudden, there's valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that's the game I have to play to

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<v Speaker 2>get financial education to black and brown people for free,

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 2>then so be it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that right now you singing my song, honey,

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 3>we could start acquired because I feel like I say

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<v Speaker 3>this to people all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I went to Columbia.

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<v Speaker 3>University Teachers College, right, I didn't go to Harvard, I

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 3>didn't go to Yale, you know. And I have this

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 3>sheer audacity as a student, as an educator, as a

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 3>leader in education, to stand all my platforms and to announce,

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, our equitable charges to talk about. We have

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 3>a framework that's called GLEAN is a grade level, engaging, affirming,

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>meaningful instruction for all students, you know. And you are

0:43:56.000 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 3>absolutely right. I had to authorize myself, right, which is

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 3>what we often have to do as people of color,

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 3>particularly as women of color. And once I authorize myself,

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 3>the edgy sphere got up behind me and authorized me

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 3>as well. And I see, and I know that to

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 3>be true about you and what you're doing. But you

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 3>are absolutely right, we are. There has to be some

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 3>sort of white label or stamp to say like, okay,

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 3>this person is and not just from sheer. I mean,

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 3>when you think about your story, the sheer experience alone

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 3>authorizes you to get up in front of the masses

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 3>and speak. And that should be enough because guess what

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 3>it's enough for some other people.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, but you know the fight continues. That fight

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<v Speaker 6>can tell you, so go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry sorry, I.

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Was gonna say, we go, We're gonna run. I believe

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna run all and see what the end gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I haven't lost yet. Okay, where if the people

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 2>want to buy Justice Sea write your book pursuing equity

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and the details of teaching and learning. Where can the

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 2>people get your book?

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, Amazon, Target, Barns and Nobles, any of

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 3>your online bookstores. I've just literally received a message today

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 3>that people in Australia are starting to buy the book

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 3>and so and also bookstores, you know, bookstores when the

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 3>when the book demands come, they will start to fill

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 3>up the shelves in the actual retail stores. But we've

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 3>received just a huge, huge amount of support. It came

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<v Speaker 3>out as number one of new releases in its category

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 3>in Amazon, and so the edgisphere is showing up and

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 3>showing out and spreading the words. So yes, I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>also code to Unbounded dot org.

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<v Speaker 4>If you go to our landing page, it'll not only tell.

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 3>You where to purchase the book, but it'll tell you

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 3>how to sit shoulder to shoulder with us and the work.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I love it. And where can they connect

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>with you? I mean, you know, I don't know how

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 2>much you want to be on your business and on

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.439
<v Speaker 2>social could be I don't know, right if they want

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to follow you and connect because I always see you

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 2>on somebody stage, I'd be like, yes, yes, I gotta

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 2>say she's on stage every day.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:14.439
<v Speaker 3>People want to follow.

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 2>An amazing black woman doing her space. Where do you

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable with them following you on social media?

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 3>So they can find us on Instagram at unbalumed dot

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 3>org or miss ms Lacy Robinson. They can find me

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 3>on Facebook, same thing unbound dot org or miss Lacy

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Robinson with ms Yeah, shoot me a d M. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't promise I'm be on the hands at all the time,

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not, as I ain't got to people

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<v Speaker 3>support me like the way timmany do.

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 4>But uh, but I could try to get to the messages.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So again, give you a copy. We're gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>a link hopefully in that show description. I'll get the money.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Are our amazing, beautiful brown producer to put the link

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<v Speaker 2>for Justice Seekers in our show notes? Justice Seekers by

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Lacey Robinson. Yeah, I just I love that there are

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 2>people like you continuing the work in the education space

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 2>where so many of us were like tap out, tap out.

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>You can't all tap out. Some of us got to

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 2>tap in, and so I'm so glad you're there. Thank

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 2>you so much for coming, Lacy, You're really amazing.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, thank you so much for having me

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 3>tick me. You are such an angel. I want you

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.320
<v Speaker 3>to understand that you really are. Your words of wisdom

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 3>carry us through. So I just really appreciate everything that

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 3>you do for us.

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 4>And you still are teacher girl in a different class.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, low key. Actually, I'm y'all. Hope you're enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Share this with your favorite teacher educator because you know

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 2>she needs to hear it, because or he or they

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody needs to hear it. Yeah, and we will see you,

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 2>so I'm not seying. Lacey's actually gonna stay for a

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 2>ba QA, so you know, tune in on Friday because

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.959
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get some questions to answer and until next week,

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:01.720
<v Speaker 2>by y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye,