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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, look, yes, I was like I always

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Speaker 2: forget our damn sorry y'all. Hey, hey, hey, we're back.

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Speaker 3: We're black, We're.

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Speaker 2: Brown, ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition, we're extra black brown

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Speaker 2: today and stew we have a guest today. Her name

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Speaker 2: is Robinson. Let me read you a little taste about

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Speaker 2: miss Lacy. First of all, she is an educator like myself,

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Speaker 2: so you already now it's on like Donkey Kong. Lacey

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Speaker 2: is the president and CEO of Unbounded, which is an

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Speaker 2: education organization that offers standardize that offers standards aligned resources

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Speaker 2: and immersive professional learning for teachers and leaders seeking seeking equity.

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Speaker 2: She has over twenty years of experience and education and

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Speaker 2: focuses on helping educators in school systems disrupt systemic racism

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and she's the author of a new book. See

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Speaker 2: if y'all watch me on YouTube, like I'll be telling

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Speaker 2: y'all can see the book. It's beautiful yellow. It is

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Speaker 2: called Justice Seekers, Pursuing Equity in the Details of Teaching

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Speaker 2: and Learning. As we both got our books out, you know,

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Speaker 3: You see, look at that looks so that's blue.

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Speaker 2: So welcome to the podcast, Lacey. You so excited. How

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Speaker 2: I met Lacey? She just dope, I'm not gonna tell

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Speaker 2: all your business, girl, but just to meet adult black

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Speaker 2: we literally did. It was just on something like hey girl, hey,

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Speaker 4: I was like, if that had been a first date,

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Speaker 2: But yes, it was Honestly, it was awesome. We just

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Speaker 2: like you know, some people you just connect with, Like

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Speaker 2: that's what it was. We got connected on social media,

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty minutes. No, Like I told the lady to

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Speaker 2: But honestly, so much your story is so interesting, Lacy,

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Speaker 2: with Unbounded. But it's not a small nonprofit, you know.

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Speaker 2: They got a big budge, right lady. Sixty million?

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Speaker 3: Oh shoot, we are we are our way there. I'd

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Speaker 3: We have a for profit and nonprofit side, and my

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Speaker 3: goal is one hundred million. You know, I mean dream right,

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Speaker 3: Last month, in June, we had our Standards Institute Convenient,

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Speaker 2: So I love that. So how but you didn't always?

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Speaker 2: Is this your first book? Justice Seekers?

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Speaker 3: You don't have to walk this road alone. There are

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Speaker 3: Because and if that's the case, honey, you need to

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, there are greatest commodity.

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Speaker 2: But there are few, I believe, And let them send

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Speaker 2: say what song is that?

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Speaker 3: Show them.

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Speaker 2: may be an educator or non educator, what do you

436
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Speaker 2: hope that people take away? Like, what do you hope?

437
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Speaker 2: What changes? What hope like guess mentally you hope they

438
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Speaker 2: take away and emotionally, but also what changes you hope

439
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: you know that they in their lives as a result

440
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Speaker 2: of reading it?

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I say Justice Secrets is my love letter

442
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Speaker 3: to educators, you know, and I really truly mean that, Like,

443
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: you know, you get a love letter, and the person

444
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: is expousing how much they care about you, but they're

445
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: also telling you like what they're concerned about, you know,

446
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: and what they appreciate, what ate about you, appreciate about you,

447
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 3: and what they want to see in the future, you know.

448
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Speaker 3: And that's what this is. It's my love letter to

449
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Speaker 3: the edu sphere. It's my love letter to the students,

450
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Speaker 3: and most importantly, I'm gonna say it's my love letter

451
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Speaker 3: to this nation. Because here's the thing. I what I

452
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: wrote and decided to include my own personal stories in

453
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Speaker 3: the book, and this is something I do in my keynotes.

454
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm the first step out to be like, hey,

455
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Speaker 3: guess what I made the mistake? If I as an

456
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: African American woman who grew up in a single mother

457
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Speaker 3: household with some powerful figures right with some powerful people

458
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Speaker 3: behind me telling me you can do it. You know,

459
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Speaker 3: you are your you are your best cheerleader. You know

460
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what they think about you, keep going.

461
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: If I had all of that, and just like you,

462
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 3: attended predominantly white schools and still got the message I

463
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: wasn't good enough and still got the message I wasn't

464
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Speaker 3: included and very rarely had the opportunity to read, see,

465
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Speaker 3: or hear from people that look like me, let alone

466
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Speaker 3: the history that my people have been a part of

467
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Speaker 3: in this country. And dare I say the main character

468
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Speaker 3: in this country? If out of all of that. After

469
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Speaker 3: finishing my K twelve experience, I still grapple with who

470
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Speaker 3: I was. And it wasn't until I attended an HBCU

471
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Speaker 3: that it got hammered home. How brilliant, how bright? And yes,

472
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Speaker 3: you might struggle on math, Lacy, but guess what, we

473
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Speaker 3: can get you to proficient. We can get you to

474
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Speaker 3: proficient because we believe in you. And so I use

475
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Speaker 3: those storyes of what I thought I knew when I

476
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Speaker 3: knew better. I used the stories of the observations that

477
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Speaker 3: I've had the privilege of having with teachers and leaders

478
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Speaker 3: and students, those moments. You know, there's a little girl

479
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Speaker 3: I talk about in the book. I was doing a

480
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Speaker 3: walk through the New Orleans and I think about this

481
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Speaker 3: and it brings tears to my eyes. A couple of

482
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Speaker 3: years ago, I was in a fifth grade math class.

483
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Speaker 3: A little black girl, braided, long hair, beautiful, all coco,

484
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Speaker 3: buttered up. You know, you can tell somebody to take

485
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Speaker 3: care of putting presses down her edges and had all

486
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Speaker 3: the bowls in her hair. And they were in a

487
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Speaker 3: math class just doing this wrote three plus three is

488
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Speaker 3: six fifth grade now and I'm walking through the classroom

489
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Speaker 3: and she grabs my arm and pulls me down and says,

490
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Speaker 3: will you be her teacher?

491
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Speaker 4: Please?

492
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Speaker 3: Please? Will you be our teacher? And it's in those

493
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Speaker 3: moments as an educator that I was just whipped apart

494
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Speaker 3: because I knew what she was asking me.

495
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Speaker 2: Do you see me?

496
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Speaker 3: Do you hear me? Could you come and care enough

497
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Speaker 3: about me and what I'm learning? And that's not a

498
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Speaker 3: dig on the teacher that was in front of the

499
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Speaker 3: student who wasn't prepared. I'm gonna say that even the

500
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Speaker 3: principle admite it the teacher wasn't prepared, not the teacher's fault,

501
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: but the system's fault. And so it's those moments I

502
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: talk about in the book. I have a real truth

503
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Speaker 3: and telling moment in US as a nation in the

504
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Speaker 3: role that African Americans, Indigenous LATINX and other people of

505
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Speaker 3: color have played in the role of education, the misguidedness,

506
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Speaker 3: and so I invite people to not just read the stories,

507
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Speaker 3: but to answer the questions in the text about themselves

508
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Speaker 3: and their systems and their schools.

509
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Speaker 2: So you probably have heard the statistic by twenty forty

510
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Speaker 2: four that we will be for the first time in

511
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Speaker 2: this country, say majority minority country. Yes, And so what

512
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Speaker 2: does that spell for education? If the minority majority of

513
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Speaker 2: people will no longer be white, that it will be black, brown,

514
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Speaker 2: and indigenous indigenous? Like, what does that look like in

515
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: the education system? How much more important is it to

516
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: have black, brown, and indigenous teachers? Knowing that you know

517
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Speaker 2: that we will be overly represented in the general population.

518
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Speaker 3: It looks like the warning signs that are going off now,

519
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: the warning signs we are literally out of lace. You know,

520
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: you know when your.

521
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 4: Fire alarm goes off and you overcooked your food, and

522
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: it's like, it's.

523
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Speaker 3: That is actually happening in education right now, and people

524
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: want to blame it on COVID. But I got news

525
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: for you. We were already in an educational pandemic before

526
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: the health pandemic even happened. We were already starting to

527
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: see the signs that we as a nation weren't paying

528
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Speaker 3: close enough to the development of educators, that we as

529
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: a nation weren't paying close enough to the pay you

530
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Speaker 3: know this, talk about this as an educator, and the

531
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Speaker 3: amount of sacrifice that is expected of you, even though

532
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: you gotta.

533
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: Pay bills, meet your mortgage, feed your kids, support your

534
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Speaker 4: family like everybody else.

535
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Speaker 3: We as a nation. The warning signs have been going

536
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Speaker 3: off since before Brown and Board of Education that in

537
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Speaker 3: order to educate us all, in order for this to

538
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: be these United States, where the pursuit of happiness is

539
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: part of our creed, you have to educate your masses.

540
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: Horace Man said that when he proposed to public school,

541
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Speaker 3: and so the warning signs are going off. One all

542
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: students are struggling, but pride, all students are struggling. Broad

543
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: and Black students pervasively have been underserved in these United States.

544
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: I've doubled dog there somebody to go to their local

545
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: system and ask for the data and not see the

546
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Speaker 3: trend of broad and Black students versus their white peers.

547
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Speaker 3: Second of all, our GDP, wayman, now speaking your language,

548
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: GDP is at risk because if you don't educate the masses,

549
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: if they can't read, if they can't write, way Man, Now,

550
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Speaker 3: I'm really about to touch on I believe this is

551
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Speaker 3: the world according to the lakes. The reason why your

552
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: work is so essential is because your counteracting the first

553
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: misstep that happens. And you already know what I'm about

554
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: to say. People have a phobia about math, they have

555
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: a phobia about numbers. Brown and black people, nine times

556
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: out of ten aren't shown the representation, the gifts and talents.

557
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: Aren't told that you have the innate ability to be

558
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Speaker 3: a mathematician a financial analysis. And so what ends up

559
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: happened You become scared of numbers, let alone budgets.

560
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Speaker 2: We're talking about just numbers.

561
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Speaker 3: And I dream of a day where your work gets

562
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: magnified because we have educated the masses of brown and

563
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: black children to understand that they have mathematical ability. They

564
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: understand the concepts and the foundational skills, and they could

565
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: be applied to budgets, engineering, food service, anything. So that

566
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: is our warning side. Now the cohort of teachers that

567
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: are needed, and I talk about this in the book.

568
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: First of all, brown and black teachers aren't needed to

569
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Speaker 3: keep Jerome and Anna in place, that's how they've been

570
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: used in the past. They are needed because all students

571
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: need to see representation.

572
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: All students need to understand.

573
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Speaker 7: That people who are not from where you're from can't

574
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Speaker 7: be discounted, have to be included, and if we are

575
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Speaker 7: to continue to be these United States.

576
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Speaker 3: We have to start to educate our youth around that.

577
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say it's about the teaching force. You

578
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: think you think we would be in such a dire

579
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Speaker 3: need for teachers if if they were paid the way

580
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Speaker 3: that they should be paid.

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Speaker 2: I think in part yes, I mean I think also

582
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Speaker 2: like a lot of teachers teach because obviously for the love,

583
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: not but the money. But also too, I think it's

584
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Speaker 2: not just the money. For me, it was also just

585
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Speaker 2: the lack of support. So I think in some part

586
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: that yes, you would maybe have more teachers apply. But

587
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: like for example, I look at I hear Maria talking

588
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: NERD pays well, okay, they pay very well, and yet

589
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: they're still struggling to attract teachers. So I don't think

590
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: it's just the money. I think it's also like, is

591
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: there a system in place to support these teachers once

592
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Speaker 2: they have the job.

593
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Speaker 3: It's the money, it's the system. Now let's look at this,

594
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: it's the legacies of community. So think about this. You

595
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: want to increase brown, black, Indigenous communities and education, you

596
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: can ignore their financial histories that they've had. So even

597
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Speaker 3: though and I'm not saying Newark doesn't pay well, because

598
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Speaker 3: I've seen their pay skill, it pays well.

599
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Speaker 4: But I want you to think about you're somebody.

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Speaker 3: That's being moved into a pay scale who's financial legacy

601
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: has never had had a leg up. Right, So let's

602
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: say you took out student loans. Your your mom and

603
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: your daddy, your grandmother, your auntie, they couldn't help you

604
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Speaker 3: get through school. You got the student loans. You already

605
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna say. You're already behind you probably

606
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: credit card your way through school. And where you are now.

607
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: You're in newer public schools making the salary, but it's

608
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: not quite cutting it yet. And what ends up happening

609
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: you have to go work a second job, right to

610
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: not just pay your bills, but to try to catch

611
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Speaker 3: up from all of the financial legacy that you had missing.

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Speaker 3: So it is, it's the salary, it's the professional development,

613
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Speaker 3: it's getting providing opportunities for educators to get a leg up.

614
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Speaker 3: You want to talk about removing student loan, maybe we

615
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: should start with the education for us first, and.

616
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Speaker 4: Really mean it, and really mean it.

617
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Speaker 3: There needs to be more education around folks like you

618
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Speaker 3: coming into our school systems and saying to brown and

619
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Speaker 3: black cohorts of educators, let's talk about how we can

620
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Speaker 3: build your budget. Let's talk about how we can start

621
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Speaker 3: financial legacies so that you could get down into the

622
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Speaker 3: passion of teaching. There is a revolution that needs to

623
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Speaker 3: happen in the teaching profession. If you want the brown

624
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Speaker 3: and black communities to play a role in it, don't

625
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: ignore their financial legacies that have been absent. I think

626
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Speaker 3: if we start to answer those questions, the professional development

627
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Speaker 3: paying them well, acknowledge how we can support them in

628
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Speaker 3: building healthy financial legacies for themselves, then that takes the

629
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Speaker 3: burden off of getting into the passion of teaching.

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Speaker 2: Because honestly, when I think about when I was teaching,

631
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Speaker 2: I mean I was making decent money for the time

632
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Speaker 2: a preest GARL was making thirty nine thousand, but then

633
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: I still toutored on the side because he needed the

634
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: extra money. You know, I still babysat on the side,

635
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Speaker 2: and that made me an extra like five or six

636
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year, you know, to try to close

637
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Speaker 2: some gaps. So no, absolutely, and I love that you're

638
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: right that I think folks don't understand. I mean, well,

639
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: the folks listening, you know, y'all brown ambition. But folks

640
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: who are not a part of this community do not

641
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: understand that my hundred thousand that I make is not

642
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: the same as someone who's white and one hundred thousand

643
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: that they make, because that one hundred thousand for them,

644
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: like Tashays the first girl to go she's the first

645
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: to go to college, so she's the one hundred thousands

646
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: for her, for granny, for couso, for mom or dad.

647
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: It's like that money. And then on top of them,

648
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: you took out student loans because other people did not

649
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: have to do so, and so on top of that,

650
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Speaker 2: you're trying to like you don't literally get to start

651
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Speaker 2: at zero and build, you know, we're literally starting at

652
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Speaker 2: negative one hundred thousand, negative two hundred thousand, and so

653
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: it's not the same. That money is not created equally.

654
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Speaker 4: So no, absolutely, And Tiffany, imagine this.

655
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: If you didn't have to tutor, if you didn't have

656
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: to babysit, could you have imagined using your time in

657
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 3: bettering your your self and your profession, maybe taking a class,

658
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: reading a book, joining a group. You know, when you

659
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: think about that and the impact that it has on

660
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 3: communities that we're inviting, that we want to be a

661
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: part of this educational landscape, you got to take all

662
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Speaker 3: that into consideration.

663
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Speaker 2: I love that because it's not because what I'm learning

664
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Speaker 2: more and more about my community is that it's not

665
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: just throwing money at the answer, you know exactly. That's

666
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: what I mean. I've been lately been on my soapbox

667
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: trying to strong arm these organizations to say, like, yo,

668
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: I've been teaching financial education for the last fifteen years.

669
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Speaker 2: I've not built an online school that teaches financial education.

670
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: I have subsidized so many over one hundred thousand students

671
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: have joined my online school, the Literature Academy, and we

672
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: keep the cost as low as possible. I have been subsidizing,

673
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, so much of that. Just even just this year,

674
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: we had a financial education challenge that was totally free

675
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: and we educated two hundred and eighty thousand people. But

676
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: why I always got to come out of pocket? Where

677
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: are you big banks?

678
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

679
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: Do you want me to tap dance for you on

680
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: your to be a spokesperson? Why I always got to

681
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: come out of pocket, you know, like, and I'm just

682
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm just like, no, I'm holding them to task. You

683
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 2: come see me, No, tell me how you are going

684
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: to subsidize black and brown people getting free financial education.

685
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: I got to school. It works. It's seven years old.

686
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: We've already we've already educated one hundred thousand people. Subsidize that,

687
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: you know, Like I would love to be able to

688
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: say to your point lazy, like, hey, you know, we

689
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: have all these educators that unbounded. Why not why not

690
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: fund them to have free access for one year to

691
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: the literature Academy? Why why do I always have to

692
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: pay for that? You know? And so you just be

693
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: surprised because these companies have I mean I have gotten

694
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: contracts that are multiple six and seven figures to do

695
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: not multiple seven from my lips of God's Ears, one

696
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: day figure contracts to you know, to do next to

697
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: nothing as the budgetista, you know, like a little live

698
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: here on a stage there, and that's cute and I'm

699
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: grateful for it, you know, and I brought back into

700
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: the community in the company. But I would honestly would

701
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: really love instead to say, hey, how much can five

702
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: hundred thousand how many students. Can we can we educate

703
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: for five hundred thousand, how many students? I mean agent

704
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: for a million? You know, I mean not students like kids.

705
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about these grown people who are like if

706
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Speaker 2: I didn't have to worry about my personal finances, then

707
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: I could be present here for these babies. So yes,

708
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Speaker 2: I mean.

709
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Speaker 3: Think about the revolution, were about to start hunting, were

710
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: about to start revolution, Because think about the revolution that

711
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: you we could have if your financial university became a

712
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: part of the scope and sequence for undergraduates that are

713
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: going into education. You know what if the alternative program said,

714
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: come and join us, will not only teach you how

715
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: to be a teacher, but we'll also get you into

716
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: the financial university so you can learn more about budget.

717
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: This is my question to you. And this ain't no

718
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: dig and don't send me no emails and snaps or

719
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: whatever y'all stand out, well.

720
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Riddle me this.

721
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: We prepare professional athletes.

722
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: Better than we prepare professional educators for their budgets and beyond.

723
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: And I ain't talking about you know, some people would

724
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: be like, well, there's there's some places that offer you

725
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: could buy a house, and honey, if you see some

726
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: of them, houses they'd be offered educated. First of all,

727
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: you and your husband or your spouseball have to be

728
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: buying the building in order to even move into it.

729
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking out beyond that. I'm talking about educating them

730
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Speaker 3: so that they understand that I can be a teacher.

731
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: I can be an educator and I don't have to

732
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: babysit and tutor. I can figure out how to create

733
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: a budget, how to save, how to have vacation money,

734
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: how to you know what I mean? What about your taxes?

735
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Speaker 3: I said. I used to say, it's an educator. I

736
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: wish somebody would come and teach me how to write

737
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: off be all these materials I ended up buying as

738
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Speaker 3: a teacher.

739
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Speaker 2: Okay, you at the local buying fifteen judicters. It was like,

740
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: how many kids do you have? When I see the teacher,

741
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Speaker 2: I literally used to set aside money from my paycheck

742
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: for my baby. Yes, because you can't as a teacher.

743
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: It's literally impossible as a teacher not to invest some

744
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: of your own money because there is a gap. So no,

745
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: you're right, and honestly, that's the soap op option that

746
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: I'm on now. I am holding brands and things that

747
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: reach out to me the task to say, all that's

748
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: good on what you want me to do. You want

749
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: me to dance for a dollar, then do this for me,

750
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: you know, not even for me, do this for this community.

751
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: That my father would always say every time we graduated,

752
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: like from high school or college or advanced degree, he

753
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: would give the same speech to me and my four sisters.

754
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: He would always say, you are now at a different

755
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: level of life because of this education that you've now acquired.

756
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: And the beautiful thing about knowledge is knowledge, once given,

757
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: can never be rescinded. They can't take this back from

758
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 2: your baby. And so that's the thing I am here

759
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: as a result of my father. He's in his eighties now,

760
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: but as a he has his master's and economics and

761
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 2: his bachelor's in finance, and so he poured that financial

762
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: education to my sisters and I. So it allowed me

763
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: to choose what I wanted to do based upon what

764
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: I love to do. You know, because I was able

765
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: to budget, I was able to learn how to save

766
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: and start investing in all those things, even now start

767
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: with starting the budget, Nissa. I was able to do

768
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: those things because I knew how to live well below

769
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Speaker 2: my means. So I would have space to do this

770
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: thing that I'm doing now, and I always wonder, like,

771
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, how could that be different for other people?

772
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: So I am on my soapbox crusade to get every

773
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: black and brown person access to financial education, but meaningful

774
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: culturally relevant because people are like, well, they could just

775
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: google meaningful culturally relevant financial education because some of the

776
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: stuff out here. Even I'm like, what are you saying

777
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: now that is a sense or you tell me, you

778
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: know you're telling me like, oh, you're talking about pull

779
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: myself up by my shoe strings. Oh you're one of those.

780
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: Now I'm good. No, meaningful culturally relevant financial education that

781
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: makes sense for who I am and how I show

782
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: up in this world. And so I'm like, yeah, that's

783
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: so we gonna talk late. So like, what do I

784
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: got to do because I've already been partner. There's a

785
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: I guess I'll announce later, but there's a nonprofit that

786
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: there's already agreed, a huge one that everybody knows their name,

787
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: kind of like work with us behind the scenes. So

788
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: basically kind of white label online school because oftentimes, which

789
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: is so crazy, a brand or a bank or a

790
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: funder or whatever will be like, hey, nonprofit, we want

791
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: to give you a bazillion dollars to do this financial

792
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: education thing. And they're like, well, why don't you go girl.

793
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: That's a black owned financial education company that's been existed.

794
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: But the menu of you white label.

795
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: It's part oh child, here's all the well.

796
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: We got to do all that. So I said, all right, cute,

797
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna do. Go ahead and white label

798
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: what we've already created and already vetted. I mean, I

799
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: had these women from Stanford come and do a and

800
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure all my research and everything

801
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: that I believe was true was true. We made some

802
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: changes based upon what they've said. We've retaped everything. It's

803
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: just like it's frustrating because when I show up in

804
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: all my black and brownness and womanness, yea, you know,

805
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: there's doubt about what I'm capable of. But to slap

806
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: you know, like some you know, old ancient like you know,

807
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: name on it, and all of a sudden, there's valuable.

808
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: And if that's the game I have to play to

809
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: get financial education to black and brown people for free,

810
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: then so be it.

811
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Speaker 3: And so that right now you singing my song, honey,

812
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: we could start acquired because I feel like I say

813
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: this to people all the time.

814
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 4: Okay, I went to Columbia.

815
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: University Teachers College, right, I didn't go to Harvard, I

816
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: didn't go to Yale, you know. And I have this

817
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: sheer audacity as a student, as an educator, as a

818
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: leader in education, to stand all my platforms and to announce,

819
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: you know, our equitable charges to talk about. We have

820
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: a framework that's called GLEAN is a grade level, engaging, affirming,

821
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: meaningful instruction for all students, you know. And you are

822
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: absolutely right. I had to authorize myself, right, which is

823
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: what we often have to do as people of color,

824
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: particularly as women of color. And once I authorize myself,

825
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: the edgy sphere got up behind me and authorized me

826
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: as well. And I see, and I know that to

827
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: be true about you and what you're doing. But you

828
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: are absolutely right, we are. There has to be some

829
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: sort of white label or stamp to say like, okay,

830
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: this person is and not just from sheer. I mean,

831
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: when you think about your story, the sheer experience alone

832
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: authorizes you to get up in front of the masses

833
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: and speak. And that should be enough because guess what

834
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: it's enough for some other people.

835
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, but you know the fight continues. That fight

836
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 6: can tell you, so go ahead.

837
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: Sorry sorry, I.

838
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, we go, We're gonna run. I believe

839
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna run all and see what the end gonna be.

840
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't lost yet. Okay, where if the people

841
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: want to buy Justice Sea write your book pursuing equity

842
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: and the details of teaching and learning. Where can the

843
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: people get your book?

844
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Amazon, Target, Barns and Nobles, any of

845
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: your online bookstores. I've just literally received a message today

846
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: that people in Australia are starting to buy the book

847
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: and so and also bookstores, you know, bookstores when the

848
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: when the book demands come, they will start to fill

849
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: up the shelves in the actual retail stores. But we've

850
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: received just a huge, huge amount of support. It came

851
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: out as number one of new releases in its category

852
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: in Amazon, and so the edgisphere is showing up and

853
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: showing out and spreading the words. So yes, I would say,

854
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: also code to Unbounded dot org.

855
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: If you go to our landing page, it'll not only tell.

856
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: You where to purchase the book, but it'll tell you

857
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: how to sit shoulder to shoulder with us and the work.

858
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it. And where can they connect

859
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: with you? I mean, you know, I don't know how

860
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: much you want to be on your business and on

861
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 2: social could be I don't know, right if they want

862
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: to follow you and connect because I always see you

863
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: on somebody stage, I'd be like, yes, yes, I gotta

864
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: say she's on stage every day.

865
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Speaker 3: People want to follow.

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Speaker 2: An amazing black woman doing her space. Where do you

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Speaker 2: feel comfortable with them following you on social media?

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Speaker 3: So they can find us on Instagram at unbalumed dot

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Speaker 3: org or miss ms Lacy Robinson. They can find me

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Speaker 3: on Facebook, same thing unbound dot org or miss Lacy

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Speaker 3: Robinson with ms Yeah, shoot me a d M. I

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Speaker 3: can't promise I'm be on the hands at all the time,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not, as I ain't got to people

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Speaker 3: support me like the way timmany do.

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Speaker 4: But uh, but I could try to get to the messages.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So again, give you a copy. We're gonna put

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Speaker 2: a link hopefully in that show description. I'll get the money.

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Speaker 2: Are our amazing, beautiful brown producer to put the link

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Speaker 2: for Justice Seekers in our show notes? Justice Seekers by

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Speaker 2: Lacey Robinson. Yeah, I just I love that there are

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Speaker 2: people like you continuing the work in the education space

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Speaker 2: where so many of us were like tap out, tap out.

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Speaker 2: You can't all tap out. Some of us got to

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Speaker 2: tap in, and so I'm so glad you're there. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for coming, Lacy, You're really amazing.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you so much for having me

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Speaker 3: tick me. You are such an angel. I want you

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Speaker 3: to understand that you really are. Your words of wisdom

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Speaker 3: carry us through. So I just really appreciate everything that

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Speaker 3: you do for us.

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Speaker 4: And you still are teacher girl in a different class.

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Speaker 2: Yes, low key. Actually, I'm y'all. Hope you're enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Share this with your favorite teacher educator because you know

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Speaker 2: she needs to hear it, because or he or they

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Speaker 2: somebody needs to hear it. Yeah, and we will see you,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not seying. Lacey's actually gonna stay for a

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Speaker 2: ba QA, so you know, tune in on Friday because

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get some questions to answer and until next week,

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Speaker 2: by y'all.

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Speaker 3: Bye,