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If you don't know about juneteen, 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: the day commemorates the ending of slavery in the United. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: States, and why. 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: It is important to highlight pioneers like doctor Gladys West 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: in that same context. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Two of my favorite people, doctor Jackie Russian and Robin Donaldson. 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: How you doing, ladies now? I got both of you 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: guys on the screen here. 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: People are listening to this in audio. Jackie, word you 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: reside at right now. 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Atlanta and Robert Word Petersburg, Florida. 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: Saint Petersburg, Florida. 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Good, now we're going now when I look at you'all bios. 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, Jackie, I've interviewed you a couple of times. 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: You're an award winning business executive, author, mental health professional, 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: and humanitarian educator. 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: Robin. 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: You received a twenty twenty five President Lifetime Achieving Award 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: for contributions to STEM education globally. Now the word education 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: is in both of you guys titled and then I'm 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: talking to about a book I read. 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: It Began with a Dream by doctor Gladys B. 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: West, and her contribution is something we use every day GPS, GPS, 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: and I think that when you start talking about a 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: black invention, black creation, that's important. So I'm gonna start 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: with you, Robin, because the words them. Then the word 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: globally popped up in your intro. Talked about the importance 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: of an individual life. 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: Doctor Gladys West, Well, first, thank you for allowing me 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: to be on the show. This is this is this 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: is very important. And I feel that doctor West is well, 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: first of all, she's a living hidden figure and what 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: her accomplishments have how her accomplishments have actually changed our 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: way of living and every discipline of life that GPS 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: or her technology, her accomplishments made these things possible. And 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: then to know that she's the last living Hidden Figure 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: who was not mentioned in the movie Hidden Figures. I 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: felt that her story needed to be told, the un 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: told truth about doctor Gladys West. And then from reading 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: the book, it just made sense to collaborate Juneteenth, what 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: it means, and then also the celebration of doctor West, 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: her book, her accomplishments on Juneteenth. 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about a little history on Dr West. 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Born in nineteen thirty, still alive today, living in Frederickburg, Virginia. 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: My mistaking correct, You guys just recently visited that young lady. 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call her a young lady because I'm want 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: to be that old one day, okay and go past 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: her okay, and she's alive and kick it. 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: Now. She was a person, you know. I read the book. 63 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Words like negro colored were used throughout the book. That 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: was the era she grew up in, but that didn't 65 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: stop her. She went to Virginia State, which is an HBCU, 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: which is now Norfolk State, she wasn't satisfied. She went 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and got a master. She wasn't satisfied after thirty nine 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: years of teaching math. And by the way, my degree 69 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: isn't math. So I really related to her and felt 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: a kind of kinship with my girl, doctor West. 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: But I didn't go. 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: As far as her, as far as academia. She went 73 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: and got her pha and it didn't just stop there. 74 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: But before we I just wanted let everybody know who 75 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: we're talking about. 76 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Now. 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: I want to slide over to Jackie and tell us 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: about June t you're a humanitarian, talk to us about juet. 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's like you said in the introduction, 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: Juneteenth is about the delayed freedom of African Americans, and 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: that in a nutshell, just speaks loudly in terms of 82 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: why it needs to be celebrated, why people like doctor 83 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: West needs to be included in that, because it's like 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: a delayed recognition delayed freedom. And what doctor West represents 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: is the quiet, often overlooked brilliance that changes the world. 86 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: And when you think about June teenth and all of 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: that hidden talent, all of that hidden opportunity, all of 88 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: that suppressed talent, you can't help but to revere June 89 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: teenth and think about all of the talent, all of 90 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: the hidden figures, all of the various careers and the 91 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: inventions that were suppressed that we now have an opportunity 92 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 4: to speak to. And when we think about doctor West 93 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: in this meeting her, she represents the fact that you 94 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: don't have to be loud to be a legacy. And 95 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 4: that's what I actually got from her, is that she 96 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: is just so humble, but she's just brilliant. She's like 97 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: a mathematical genius. 98 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: No no, no, don't use the word light is yes yes, yes, yes, yes, math. 99 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: I know there's certain limits to Rasha McDonald when he 100 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: comes to math. I may have a degree, but was 101 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: happy to want with that degree. Yes, she undergraduate degree. 102 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about getting the masters. I wasn't talking 103 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: about getting a PhD. Because she talked about that when 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: she went back and got our PhD. And she was 105 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: in the class. Of course, she was in the class 106 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: and basically the only person of color in the class, 107 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: and she was competing with a lot of pwi's, which 108 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: is predominant white institution graduates. And she herself was surprised 109 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: as how things that they were having difficulty with she 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: fould rather easy, she Folt rather normal. But that goes 111 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: back to her training, and that goes back to how 112 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: people raise you. I want to go back to you, Robert, 113 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: because you've had a lot of conflicts in your personal 114 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: life to be the person that you are today. But 115 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: it all goes back to that village and how people 116 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: come into your life at certain points and then inspire 117 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: you to be the great person you are today. That's 118 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: what you got the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Awards. 119 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: Talk to a Robert. 120 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: Story I resonated with immediately because again thinking about it, 121 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: she went from a sharecropper to a GPS premier and 122 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: all of the struggle, all of the setbacks, disappointments, all 123 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: of those things that she had to go through. So 124 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: again her story resonated with me. And to know that 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: you can be someone from humble beginnings and change the world, 126 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: that is my mission. That's also the mission now, yes. 127 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: And your mission is also tied to STEM. Why is 128 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: that so important? 129 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: If our kids are not pursuing STEM careers now, they 130 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: will be lost. And I'm a firm believer that our 131 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 3: kids they're not pursuing high paying STEM careers, not because 132 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: of their aptitude, it's simply because they have not been exposed. 133 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: So this is my mission in life to expose these kids. 134 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: Whether they articulate toward a STEM career or not, they 135 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: will have been exposed and so therefore now they have 136 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: a choice. But STEM education is so very important. And 137 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: then also looking at the trend where everything is going 138 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: everything is robotics. It used to be a time when 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: I was growing up that I had only to compete 140 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: with the kids that rode my school bus or that 141 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: attended my high school. But now you have to compete 142 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: with anyone who can apply for that job online. 143 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Also robots, right, you know, it's kind of it's really 144 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: I should say, funny, but life does allow you to 145 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: We're living my life. Born in the fifties, lived in 146 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: the sixties, you know, went to high school, graduated in 147 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: the seventies, went to college and graduated in the eighties, 148 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: and lived my life. To see but one time where 149 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: a watch was the cartoon version of Dick Tracy is 150 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: now something we well, people were talking via video now. 151 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: You know, Jackie, you know you wrote a book about 152 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: AI technology consuming people's lives that really has had a 153 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: major impact over the world. Tell everybody about that book. 154 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: But also GPS, which is doctor West had a major 155 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: say in the development of the GPS, which we use 156 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: every day. But sometimes technology is good if we use 157 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: it right, but could also be overwhelming. Let's talk about that, Jack, 158 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: because that's your expertise, young lady, mental health. 159 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting. When I was listening to you, 160 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: listen to you speak, doctor West said that she rarely 161 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: used her GPS system to get around. She liked to 162 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: use maps in those types of things because she didn't 163 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: want to use She didn't want to lose that critical 164 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 4: thinking and those her cognitive abilities by depending on a 165 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: tool set. And so when you think about the question 166 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: that you just asked about AI and mental health and 167 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: all of that, that's exactly what she's saying. Is you 168 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: put it in context when Robin was saying that our 169 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: kids today are not embracing and understanding technology in a 170 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: way that compliments them. They are really being left behind. 171 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: And so when being left behind and using it inaccurately, 172 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 4: it is causing a mental health crisis. It's causing us 173 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: to lose that. And what doctor West is teaching us 174 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 4: with her inventions is you can have brilliants, but everything 175 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 4: has a place, and it's meant to compliment you and 176 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: not to take over everything that you do. 177 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: You still need to. 178 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: Have a hand in building your house. 179 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know it's important that you say that. 180 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about GPS, you know, because I tell you 181 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: sometimes the other day I just had to stop. 182 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: I just stop, as Richard stopped. 183 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: When you to depend then on GPS, I will tell you, 184 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Robert and Jackie, I will go and I would use 185 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: GPS and would not know how to get back because 186 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I was laugh right, you know, drive this point, go 187 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: to this point where when I grew up. If you 188 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: just told me, Rashan, you know, I ten. I was 189 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: born in Houston, Texas, so I it was a major freeway. 190 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Go down to this street, make a left at the kmart, 191 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: and then going down to make a left at the 192 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: gas station. I'll be the third house on the right 193 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: with the address. That's how I grew up. That was 194 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: my GPS, with words that were even written on the 195 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: paper or somebody told me on telephone. Today, Rushan McDonald's 196 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: been so captivated by technology that if I go somewhere 197 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: via GPS, I can't even get back home. 198 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Okay, and that's what you're talking about. 199 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: Right, Jackie. 200 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay. So GPS stands for Global Positioning System and 201 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: so it's comprised of satellites that speak to stations here 202 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: on Earth. And so when when Robin was speaking to 203 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: me about doctor West, because she introduced doctor West to 204 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: me because I was not familiar with her, and when 205 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: she told me about it, I had to go and 206 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: look it up. And when I did, she said, I 207 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 4: would really like to help elevate this technology in doctor West. 208 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: And so when I read about her, I was like absolutely, 209 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: So we came together and collaborated and developed a program 210 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: for young kids based upon the principles that doctor West 211 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 4: used and developing the GPS, and we called it westward 212 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: Bound and using the principles from her her last name, 213 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: her acronym, which which focuses more on like wisdom and 214 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: execution and accuracy. It's about having a vision about where 215 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: you're going, a position of starting point, which a lot 216 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: of our young kids they don't have. And so that's 217 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: where Robin and now we collaborated a lot in terms 218 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 4: of being able to pull this program together based upon 219 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: the work that she did with GPS. 220 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: Now let me tell you the Robert You're always getting 221 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: your hands into something. Miss Stem, miss nationally recognized as 222 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: a presidential Lifetime Achieving Wards. 223 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: You know I got my way back twenty three, twenty two. 224 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: You know it's twenty. 225 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: Twenty five talking to day Jack five. You know she's 226 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: very current in her celebrations. Now, how did you how 227 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: did you find out about doctor West? 228 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: Well, it was three years ago during our summer camps, 229 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: our architectural camps. Her and her husband were the. 230 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: Slow down one minute tell us about the architectural camps. 231 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: Because I love talking to Robin. She had blow past 232 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: the value points because people need to know how great 233 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: you are. What are the architectural camps? 234 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: Okay, So my background, I'm an architectural designer and builder, 235 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: and with me, I find the Stem and everything. So 236 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: this particular summer we were a whole seen a global 237 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: camp at that time. We were in several different countries 238 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: and a couple of time zones, and her and her 239 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: husband were guest speakers. And when she saw all of 240 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 3: those beautiful black boys and girls on the zoom, call Robin, 241 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,239 Speaker 3: I have to get the book into their hands. I said, Okay, 242 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: I can help you. 243 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 5: Do that. 244 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: She says, I want to get it into libraries and 245 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: every place else. I said, well, doctor West, you asking 246 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: me you doctor West right, and said, God asks Moses 247 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: to build the arc. And so from that that has 248 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: been my quest to put doctor West on the map 249 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: in honor and just educate, educate, educate on who she is, 250 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: what she has done, and then see yourself within her 251 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: story because it's so so relatable. And from that, from 252 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: meeting her, I just took on that mission. And again 253 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: when I met Jackie, I understand that she's an amazing 254 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: curriculum content writer and when I talked to her about 255 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: what we wanted to do, and she just took a 256 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: whole holistic approach to it. And as a result, we 257 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: have an amazing West Profound program that not only is 258 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: useful for the youth, but even adults, or even adults 259 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: that are entrepreneurs or anyone that is wanting to change 260 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: their lot in life. The book is going to give 261 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: you a step by step on how to do it. 262 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 5: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 263 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 5: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 264 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashan McDonald. 265 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: The books we're talking too, I want to give people 266 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: a computer. 267 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about two books, the Westwood Bound Book and 268 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: then we also have it Began with a Dream. Is 269 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: the book that doctor West asked you to put into 270 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: these students' hands. 271 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: It was doctor Gladys B. West. 272 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: It's a memoir about her life how they all started. 273 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: But like I said, she was born in nineteen thirty, 274 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: so she walked through a lot of territories that today 275 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: we would stay. That's unfortunately I couldn't exist. I wouldell people. 276 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could survived some of the 277 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: environments that these young people lived in and thrived in. 278 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: And she went to an HPCU. She pledged. 279 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Aka she is a foundation was built through relationships, through mentory. 280 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: That's what you two ladies do. 281 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Mentorship, like I said, didn't start last week with social media. 282 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Mentionship has been important because she talks about the power 283 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: couple that was at Virginia State that enables her to 284 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: be the person she is today. So when you when 285 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: you talk about relationships, Jackie, this westward Bound program, how 286 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: does one register for I said, westbound apologize? 287 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: So the west Redbound, of course, is an educational program. 288 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: It's a life skills program. And let me just tell 289 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: you that the the the West Rebound component of it 290 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: is it complements like the STEM programs that people teach. 291 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: So we don't just teach history or SKIM or STEM 292 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: skills or soft skills. We really teach soul's skills, which 293 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: is what doctor West talked to us about. It's about 294 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: being able to reach these kids in a different way. 295 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: And so the way to actually get the program is 296 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: just to reach out to UH through Robin's program, the 297 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 4: STEM Exposure and sign up for it, and well we 298 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 4: can work it from there. We're are working with a 299 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 4: couple of universities. We're from the NDA, so we can't 300 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: really speak about that. Who are interested in being able 301 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 4: to bring these programs to their outreach programs as well. 302 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 2: Now, Robert, what's the website? 303 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: W w dot s t E m x p O 304 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 3: s u r E dot org. 305 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: One more time, w dot. 306 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: S t E m x p O s u r 307 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: E dot org. 308 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: A great, Robert, what that being said, how does the 309 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: program intentionally support underserved communities and address equity and STEM 310 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: and life skills When you bring the removal d I 311 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity to access program. 312 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: Hmm, can you accept one more time? You have a 313 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: couple you have had a little add on to that 314 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: hold on. 315 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Because I added on j I or added that on 316 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: because of the fact that there's so many programs have 317 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: been taken away by this current administration. And I've always 318 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: told people, if you teach and you give people access, 319 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: then they don't need the because they can compete properly. 320 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: So I'm asking you, you guys have established this program 321 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: in relationship I'm talking of westwood Bound in relationship with Jackie, 322 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: is that how does this program intentionally support underserved communities? 323 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: That's our target market, That's who we are looking to 324 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: help with this book. And I feel that by studying 325 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: the Westwardbound Principles, going through each one of the modules, 326 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: as Jackie mentioned earlier, it is helping you step by 327 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: step position yourself. So again, whether you're trying to economically 328 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: or educationally, this book is your step by step guide 329 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: on how to do so. 330 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: I have to ask this question, and either want Jackie 331 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: or Robie could answer this question. How long has the 332 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: program been in existence? 333 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: We began collaborating and developing the program earlier this last 334 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 4: year and so I would say about I would say 335 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: about six months. 336 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: Six months. 337 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: So Robert, within that period, have you been able to 338 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: see any transformations. Have you been able to witness the 339 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: students and how they've responded to the program? 340 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: Well, we have not actually had a class. However, throughout 341 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: the camp we exercised those same principles and actually I 342 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 3: speak of it every day and for the students and 343 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: I'll say six students that I have exposed it to. 344 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: It's really a relief because not only the Westward bounce. 345 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: But let me first go there, but we first talked 346 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: about doctor West and her concerns, her resilience that she 347 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: had to overcome, and who she is today. And then 348 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: from that westbrook Bound Now they understand who they are, 349 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: what they can do, and they actually have their i'll 350 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: say their map planned out. So for example, yesterday we 351 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: were talking about we're in an architectural camp and we 352 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: were talking about all of the different disciplines that you 353 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: can pursue, and there was one wanted to pursue engineering. 354 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: So again using the westbrook Bound principles, we identified what 355 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: classes you're taking next year once you go back to school, 356 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 3: what other classes you need to sign up for in 357 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: order to go to the junior college and get your 358 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: AA and then go off to a major university pursuing 359 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: the engineering path. So that's where that book is going 360 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 3: to be very, very helpful for the students that are 361 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: in my class, for any of the students that are 362 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: reading the books. 363 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell it, my guests, let me bring you 364 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: everybody up to speed. As doctor Jackie Rushan, She's an 365 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: award winning business executive, author, mental health professional, and humanitarian educator. 366 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: The voice you just heard was Robin Donaldson. She received 367 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five President Lifetime Achieving Award for contributions 368 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: to STEM education globally. Jackie is based in Atlanta and 369 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: Robin is based out in Deep Florida. Down that in Florida, 370 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: not in the Tip area. Now, when as we talk 371 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: about what we're trying to achieve here, you know, June teenth. 372 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: That's a day. 373 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm from Houston, Texas, so that was the first day 374 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: they acknowledged June Team. So I'm very a champion of that. 375 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: When it went national, at the time President Joe Biden 376 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: signed off over, it was like an extended celebration for me. 377 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: But that commemorates you know the end. 378 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Of slavery right now, we are celebrating academic success in 379 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: the African American community, now, Jackie as a humanitarian, as 380 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: an educator, because you on this call, I can assure 381 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: you got more degrees in both me and rob Okay, 382 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: What does that mean when we talk about a liberation, 383 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: well emancipation where slavery was happening in the eighteen sixty 384 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: five and we're talking about a person like doctor Gladys 385 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: West and somebody who contributed to something GPS that is 386 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: not going away. It's been used by the military for 387 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: years prior to becoming used by everyday people. How can 388 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: we continue to train moving forward in a positive direction 389 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: so it benefits everybody, not just black. 390 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: Well, the program really is it is transcendent. In other words, 391 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 4: it really is not just for black people. It's just 392 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: that we happen to be talking about underserved communities. Those principles, 393 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: the West principles, if you think about them, W is 394 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: for wisdom. We're talking about wisdom endurance strategy tracking. Everybody 395 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 4: needs that and it really is for every person. As 396 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 4: a matter of fact, with that program, I use it 397 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: during my addictions counseling because it's all about endurance. When 398 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: you talk about liberation and emancipation, all of that to 399 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: me is spiritual work. It's about the thing that you 400 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: need to anchor you. It's the difference between climbing and ascension. 401 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 4: So basically, if you think about our STEM programs from 402 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 4: a career perspective, which is what we typically focus a 403 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: lot when we deal with children, which everybody focuses on, 404 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 4: we're talking about climbing, and there are different behaviors that 405 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: you have when you're climbing if it's not anchored in ascension, 406 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: which is what the west Were Bound program is about, 407 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: because that's what anchors you in terms of endurance, in 408 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 4: terms of revealed of resilience. Because the world is not 409 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: designed to make it easy for us. Doctor West said 410 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: told us when we were talking with her that when 411 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: she was a young girl, she stood in the field 412 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: working and she just knew that she did not want 413 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: to be in that field work. And this is a 414 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: girl about eight or nine years old. She knew that 415 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: there was something that was greater than this. And so 416 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: what the Westward Bound program says is you have to 417 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 4: think greater. You have to believe that there is something 418 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: greater than what you're standing and when we're talking about 419 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: liberation emancipation in juneteenth, that is how all that that 420 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: came together because people believe that there was so much 421 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: more to what they can achieve than where they were. 422 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 4: And so to me, that's key in terms of connecting 423 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: all of this together. All of these degrees mean nothing 424 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 4: if you're not grounded from a spiritual perspective in terms 425 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: of the things that are going to keep you going. 426 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 4: When you fall from the clime, you need something to 427 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 4: anchor and balance you. 428 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: Now, Robert, you got us all involved. Now, it was 429 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: kind of like a three sixty. You know, you took 430 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: the idea of the Jackie. 431 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Then Jackie knew me, then you became Now we're on 432 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: this call promoting it now because you mentioned due to 433 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: the NDA, you could not tell me about the opportunities 434 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: that you're working with a couple of universities. Now, Robert, 435 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: you brought the idea to Jackie the Westwood Bound program. 436 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Can other communities contact you or Jackie and try to 437 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: get more information on how they can bring this. Because 438 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: I was growing up they had an upward bound program. 439 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't a stimulated program, but it was a game 440 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: motivational getting kids, exposure them to college life, letting them 441 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: know there was more than what they had in their 442 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: community out there. There's a bigger world out there. So 443 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with motivational camps. But again, this is 444 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: the Westwood Bound camp. How can other communities contact you 445 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: to find out more about this as well as getting 446 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: doctor Gladys westbook. 447 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you asked that question. So I can 448 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: be contacted at area code eight one three nine nine 449 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: zero seven seven zero zero, and I can be emailed 450 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: at executive at stem exposure dot org. And also there 451 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: is I can share of Saint Pete College is a 452 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: local community college here. There are seven locations and I 453 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: asked the provost if he would assist in helping put 454 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: doctor Wes on the map, and he said, well sure. 455 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: So what happened was he had all seven of his 456 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: campuses in their auditorium and they viewed. They had the 457 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: opportunity to watch the movie Hidden Figures. Each one of 458 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: the students were gifted a book and then we had 459 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: a guest speaker, which was doctor wes daughter who was 460 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 3: also a mathematician, so she was able to speak to 461 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: you know, the life of growing up with doctor Gladys 462 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: West and then also you know what made her become 463 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: a mathematician and also speak to the book. And so 464 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: that was one way that we were able to put 465 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: doctor Wes on the map. And we are also asking 466 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: anyone that is hosting a Juneteenth event, whatever you're doing, 467 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: make sure that doctor West is the focus. 468 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: Cool. 469 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Well, I want to thank you both ladies for coming 470 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: on my show discussing this incredible story. 471 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 472 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: I read the book and actually read the book this 473 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: morning prior to the interview. 474 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: It's a great read. Is a memoir. 475 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: I guess when you're reading about the history and you're 476 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: reading about the incredible heights, you know it will it 477 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: will keep your attention because again I did not know this, 478 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: and there's always information that makes you shine a bit 479 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: brighter when you are educated beyond your own natural thought process. Again, Jackie, 480 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: dear friend, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation 481 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: master Class. And my new dear friend Robin, thank you 482 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: for you know, bringing this attention to it because Jackie 483 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: didn't know. 484 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 485 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: But what we do know it began with a dream 486 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: doctor Gladys by West. That's a memoir and I recommend 487 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: people to pick it up so their children and they 488 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: can know that the history has been made every day 489 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: and people of color are making a difference in this world. 490 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations. 491 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: Thank you for being the gift that you are. 492 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 6: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass 493 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 6: hosted by me Rushawn McDonald. Thank you to our guests 494 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 6: on the show today and thank you listening to the 495 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 6: audience now. 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