Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast
Speaker 1: Girls were going to hit the road this week. I'm
Speaker 1: excited three sleeps, right, it would be so fun something
Speaker 1: like that. I'm so excited. New York there's just like
Speaker 1: a few seats left, Yeah, only a few, and then
Speaker 1: Boston's like closest selling out on the second night. It's
Speaker 1: wild to me. People are showing up in Boss. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. I've never been. Oh my gosh, it's so
Speaker 1: much fun. I feel like I want to get up
Speaker 1: at like six am and just do all the things
Speaker 1: I want to see. Boston. It's so fun. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember. So there's like the really pretty park. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fun things to do in Boston.
Speaker 1: I feel like the attitude in Boston might be very
Speaker 1: U brand for me right now. Yeah, for sure, there's
Speaker 1: good chopping. There's a lot of good really cool like
Speaker 1: architectural holdings and stuff that like we want to see.
Speaker 1: So I think to bring the tennis shoes. Bring the
Speaker 1: tennis shoes. Yes, there'll be lots of because the day,
Speaker 1: the second day that we're there, we'll be like, you know,
Speaker 1: explore and I just have to travel to the next day. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just so excited. I feel like I need I
Speaker 1: needed some some good girl time since November. Right, we
Speaker 1: haven't been out since November and then the last girl
Speaker 1: trip that I had was Sarah and then she So
Speaker 1: I just feel like we need like I need this,
Speaker 1: like I need a good girl's trip because we were
Speaker 1: Katherine and I were supposed to go some of first
Speaker 1: spring break and it had kind of canceled. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm still up for a girl saying, so we need
Speaker 1: I look, I like count down the days to wind down.
Speaker 1: It's that time. It's just so well we travel well together. Yeah, which,
Speaker 1: now that I know we travel well together, I really
Speaker 1: look forward to. Well I did before, but now that
Speaker 1: I know what's important to all of us and our
Speaker 1: love languages and where we sleep, we all go to
Speaker 1: the beach and backroom stretch. Well, it just feels like cozy.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, oh, we're back on the dorm. I'm
Speaker 1: here for it. I love it. Do you guys like traveling?
Speaker 1: Is there is there a couple like do you like
Speaker 1: traveling with your husband's? Like would you rather travel solo
Speaker 1: with your husband? Would you want to do couples, what
Speaker 1: is your composure? Go to so fun fact, Preston and
Speaker 1: I in eight years have never taken a vacation solo
Speaker 1: until this, like to three weeks ago, which was crazy
Speaker 1: and I was like, hi, time out. Did you see
Speaker 1: the pirates came? Yes, okay, they really came? Like wait,
Speaker 1: so Christy wasn't far off? Pirates? Like when like goose
Speaker 1: bumps so many people do you mean They're like you
Speaker 1: manifested this? The pirates are I was there right? The
Speaker 1: pirates came to Tampa? They did? Was that weird? I
Speaker 1: mean I saw it and just started busting. I forgot
Speaker 1: to put I need to go back and post because
Speaker 1: I was dying. I was like, you, guys, I did
Speaker 1: I I guess what does that even say about me?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I better be careful. It's probably what
Speaker 1: I don't want to No, I need to manifest the
Speaker 1: opposite direction and really get some things aligned for us.
Speaker 1: So I think with the um couples or so, I
Speaker 1: actually prefer to do a girl's trip and then do
Speaker 1: a one on one for because I feel like since
Speaker 1: we travel so much in work, it's hard to get
Speaker 1: that one on one time, like you just said with President,
Speaker 1: you have eight years eight years. So though it's fun
Speaker 1: to travel with a couple, at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: like that's the time that I'm like, I'd rather just
Speaker 1: be like eye to eye with like my person. And
Speaker 1: then because girls trips are just so much fun, I'd
Speaker 1: rather just love it with the girls. I've really done
Speaker 1: a whole lot of couple's trips. Honestly, maybe we should
Speaker 1: come like girls trips or girls stressing better than a
Speaker 1: girl's trap. There's really especially with us, I want to
Speaker 1: my love for us, but like, none of us are
Speaker 1: crazy drinkers. None of us are like you know, like
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I told Press and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm headed out for a wine down,
Speaker 1: and he's like, uh, this is when Kat was potentially
Speaker 1: getting divorced. You were different, look like but I'm like,
Speaker 1: it looks like eleven o'clock face wash and us belly
Speaker 1: laughing about all the things. It looks like that was
Speaker 1: like to meet you guys from an audisclosed location. At
Speaker 1: this point, I do, and then yeah, I mean that's yeah,
Speaker 1: we're like remember that one night we tried to go
Speaker 1: out in Chicago. We really tried. That was actually sad.
Speaker 1: We're trying so hard and everything. We just wanted one
Speaker 1: good drink, one good drink, that was it, But instead
Speaker 1: we belly laughed in our back in our room in
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes. I like that about us. Girl's trips
Speaker 1: have changed. It's not that exciting to everybody else listening,
Speaker 1: but we love it. It's I think we're more comfortable
Speaker 1: than people. Let on. I think what you guys do
Speaker 1: is you got to find your people, and those are
Speaker 1: the people that you should because we're so busy with
Speaker 1: life and moments and it's nice to have for example,
Speaker 1: like obviously the one with Sarah was it was it
Speaker 1: was amazing, It was so much fun. So when you
Speaker 1: have those moments like travel with the people that bring
Speaker 1: life and joy into you rather than stress, because there's
Speaker 1: nothing worse than traveling with people that you don't like,
Speaker 1: you're like, why am I spending my time doing this
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? Like with kids and I'm kidding. That's
Speaker 1: the other thing I remember, like a long period. I
Speaker 1: like just that we it's always like a quick like
Speaker 1: the trip we were going to do was like wet
Speaker 1: two nights for spring break. It wasn't let me reiterate
Speaker 1: it wasn't a whole spring break trip. Kids don't worry
Speaker 1: two nights. But yeah, it's you know, I like traveling
Speaker 1: with kids with other kids. Yeah that's funny too because
Speaker 1: it keeps them the that's I like, I really like
Speaker 1: doing that. I want to do more trips where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's all take the kids here for spring break, especially
Speaker 1: this year because my husband's gone a lot and I
Speaker 1: would love to vacation, but I get, let's do it
Speaker 1: for fall break. I have the kids for fallbreak, Mike
Speaker 1: cousin for the spring, but with his now. But it's like,
Speaker 1: but I'm now taking half of it because like, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be here, so then that's where I
Speaker 1: go into that, like I'll take him so uh but
Speaker 1: fall break would be fun. Let's talk about where you
Speaker 1: just came back from uh, California and you had a
Speaker 1: sweet trip. I did so sweet? You know what you had?
Speaker 1: Called Catherine? I go, when did TMZ come to Nashville.
Speaker 1: I don't know who this man was, but I got
Speaker 1: off that this nine hour flight and so where he
Speaker 1: lives it's about like three hours from England, like two
Speaker 1: and a half three hours, so count that onto it.
Speaker 1: Then I'm at the airport for two hours and then
Speaker 1: a nine hour flight back home. Nine hours and I'm like,
Speaker 1: no makeup, got some zits like in my like sweatpants, Karen,
Speaker 1: my big old blanket. And I get this guy and
Speaker 1: this one guy has a camera videoing, and then one
Speaker 1: guy is long lens and I'm like where am I
Speaker 1: at right now? Like this is never never seen that
Speaker 1: in Nashville? What Yeah? I was like, am I getting punked?
Speaker 1: Like I was just so so. Then it hit the
Speaker 1: news after no, no, it hasn't come out and I
Speaker 1: didn't even look forward or whatever, but like, I don't
Speaker 1: like this. What was strange about it was I mean
Speaker 1: it was immediately when I went through the doors of
Speaker 1: you know, out of the British Airways or whatever, the
Speaker 1: international terminal. You know, how can people approach you think
Speaker 1: that you might know them, and he's like hi, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Hi, how are you? Because it's like you're
Speaker 1: always so nice? Well, and but in my mind I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: are they a fan? Are they do I actually know them?
Speaker 1: Or I'm always gonna play it like I know you
Speaker 1: and whatever. That's amazing. So even people you are for sure,
Speaker 1: you don't know. You're always like hey girl, cute top
Speaker 1: I mean always so you knew the photographer, so you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know any well. The first guy in the
Speaker 1: cameras like hey Jenna, Like I was like, oh hi,
Speaker 1: how are you in? Nice to see you, and he's like,
Speaker 1: how is your time in England? I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so weird. I don't think that is crazy to me.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, uh, yeah, I know it
Speaker 1: was good and I'm walking like I'm briskly walking. I
Speaker 1: want to get to my uber. I want to see
Speaker 1: my kids, right and so he just kept asking me
Speaker 1: all these questions like has Allen met the kids? And like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't feel like discussing that. Um, I
Speaker 1: actually would like to really get to my kids right now.
Speaker 1: Have you met his kids? And like again I'm not
Speaker 1: going to discuss that. I'm so sorry, like I just
Speaker 1: want to get to my car, And then he kept
Speaker 1: asking like the one thing I remember from it because
Speaker 1: it was again such a blur, He goes, have you
Speaker 1: learned any fancy words? And I go rubbish and rubbish yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was just like what, like what is happening
Speaker 1: right now, Like I was just so confused, and then
Speaker 1: he kept asking me questions, like he said something else
Speaker 1: about Alan, and I just was so like I looked
Speaker 1: at him like dead in the eye and was just
Speaker 1: like I just got off a nine hour plane, like please,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, like I just want to get home
Speaker 1: to my kids. Also like probably caught off guard, like
Speaker 1: what's really happening right now? I still that's crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't know that was. I mean I have heard that
Speaker 1: they're definitely here now are there? Um? Someone had told
Speaker 1: me that they were, yeah, that they were doing something downtown.
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't know where. The gymnastics play a
Speaker 1: lot of content, but I had not seen or heard
Speaker 1: them at the airport. The days, those were the days
Speaker 1: because I just made me laugh just I miss those
Speaker 1: days just for the No, I just didn't say. I
Speaker 1: take that back. I do not miss those days. I
Speaker 1: miss the Queendo. That's what. Well. I just ate popcorn
Speaker 1: and watched it. I can remember sitting on my couch
Speaker 1: literally eating popcorn so hard. It's just I literally said
Speaker 1: The Queen was better than Netflix to me. It was
Speaker 1: way too good. It's you just can't make And then
Speaker 1: you went and stable and got a boyfriend and quiet.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, hey, guys, we also have back
Speaker 1: together with Meg. Julie is successful, Pam's healing guts and yeah,
Speaker 1: Pam's growing abs. You've got a boyfriend. Sarah Bryce has
Speaker 1: exited the conversation. She actually stay on. No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think. So we stopped Sarah conversation. Girl, it's
Speaker 1: just too much. But but England was great. It's um,
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot. You know what kills me is
Speaker 1: the nine hour travel back. Like the one there is great.
Speaker 1: I got that one. It's the flight back that's just
Speaker 1: really tough. It's it's nine and a half hours. It's
Speaker 1: just it's to me, that's a lot. And you don't sleep.
Speaker 1: I can't because you have to sleep and get home, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you gotta like you land at like five pm
Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, I gotta stay awake, which
Speaker 1: is you know one o'clock. No ask how you are
Speaker 1: just coming back? Because that was it snuck up on me,
Speaker 1: like the second day, I felt like, so I think
Speaker 1: it's it's harder for me going there just than it
Speaker 1: is coming here, because like you're going to bed so
Speaker 1: you're already like tired. I don't know, but there it is.
Speaker 1: It will be coming to an end soon or it's
Speaker 1: just like I did, admit so many different things that
Speaker 1: you're going to have to elaborate. Well, y'all just to
Speaker 1: just be a director instead he's a plot writer. It
Speaker 1: will all be coming doing what do you mean eventually
Speaker 1: it'll all be coming to an end. That uh, the
Speaker 1: amount of times I'm going over there. Mhm. Okay, well
Speaker 1: I got t MZ's telescope camera fired up. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it it was so great. We like saw some really
Speaker 1: cool different places and there were have you ever heard
Speaker 1: of this place called bath in England? Yeah, I've heard
Speaker 1: of it. Wow, it's wild back and live the Roman days.
Speaker 1: They dug so deep. And again I'm gonna butcher this
Speaker 1: because I'm the person, so I'd like to know this.
Speaker 1: When you go to a museum that you know they
Speaker 1: have those little phones and the headphones, I walk right
Speaker 1: past those things. I just want to see. I'm wearing
Speaker 1: my headphones. Now those are the kind of headphones. But
Speaker 1: I mean I just like, I'm like now I just
Speaker 1: kind of want to look and like see and I'll
Speaker 1: read a few of the little plaques. But besides that,
Speaker 1: like give me, give me the like when was it built?
Speaker 1: Sith notes? Whatever? Now, send me on my way. So
Speaker 1: what's your cliff notes about bath? That cliff notes about
Speaker 1: bath was back in the Roman times? Okay, they dug
Speaker 1: so deep into the ground that they hit like a
Speaker 1: The ground was hot, so Toda's day and I even
Speaker 1: made it said don't touch, but Allen touched the water.
Speaker 1: Uh so, um, it's still warm. That so that the
Speaker 1: pictures I took when I was there, it stays warm.
Speaker 1: Isn't that wild? That's why bath? Yes, well I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's actually why the study is called back. But I
Speaker 1: don't know why it would be called bad mother? Is right? True? True? True?
Speaker 1: And we're trained to shower that they called a bath
Speaker 1: and then made up that story to fit the name
Speaker 1: of the and then they have a heat or installed
Speaker 1: all of those fields. Well sound we I know what
Speaker 1: we needed to do is we needed to to to
Speaker 1: look at the the you know, the little guide thing.
Speaker 1: But anyways, so but we're google. I don't know things
Speaker 1: or what they did in that bath, but they all
Speaker 1: bathed together in these baths. So we went there and
Speaker 1: then we went to this other place called we went
Speaker 1: to windsor windsor was did you go the Queen's Castle
Speaker 1: or I think that's what it is. We didn't wear
Speaker 1: that phones, but it was beautiful, like just so stunning,
Speaker 1: so pretty the grounds were and I saw these you
Speaker 1: know those what those guys called they walk with the
Speaker 1: like big soldiers. They are, yes, they are soldiers, but
Speaker 1: there does anybody want to cancel the last five minutes
Speaker 1: England culture? I apologize. I will do better next time.
Speaker 1: We are were so but every part of me I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, hey, like I want to because you know,
Speaker 1: you want to get there because they won't because they
Speaker 1: won't right, like, and you love eye contact. I do that.
Speaker 1: It's really hard for you. But that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Watched the exchange of the guards guards. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: have to watch them, Yeah, changing the car, changing the guard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. Yeah, And I thought there was
Speaker 1: something more fancier and like the red Stallions are the
Speaker 1: red Guard stack. That's not the magic of the Kingdom.
Speaker 1: You made a few fires, tried to watch Babbylon. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the fires didn't watch Babbylon them out anyways, But
Speaker 1: it was fun and I'll be back sooner, and he
Speaker 1: cannot come here to an end before it comes to
Speaker 1: an end, because you know in season it's he'd have
Speaker 1: like again in twenty to our travel day. So it's
Speaker 1: so funny. I still am phobic of you giving clues,
Speaker 1: Like I just tightened up and I'm like, oh, that's right.
Speaker 1: When everyone knows who he is, now it's fine, okay, okay. Well,
Speaker 1: we have a really amazing guest on our show. She's
Speaker 1: got a really fun podcast. She's hilarious. So let's take
Speaker 1: a break and then let's get Heather on. Hey, Heather,
Speaker 1: it's Janna Christ. Hey, I'm Catherine. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on Wine Down. We really appreciate it. How's
Speaker 1: your dame? Good? How's yours? Where are you guys? You're
Speaker 1: in Nashville. We're in Nashville. Yeah. Are you in l A. Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's juicy in l I. I bet it's great. It's
Speaker 1: it's such a gorgeous day to day, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm not I would be jealous, but it's a very
Speaker 1: beautiful day to day too, in Nashville and sunny. We've
Speaker 1: really tried today with our weather. We're feeling proud of ourselves.
Speaker 1: It'll be gone tomorrow. Don't worry. It's totally gone tomorrow. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's cute. We were just we we all love you.
Speaker 1: But this one right here was just before entered. She
Speaker 1: was just like, guys, I really love I really love
Speaker 1: you because I like funny women and there's not a
Speaker 1: ton of them. Oh thank you. I appreciate that so much.
Speaker 1: That's so sweet. I mean the Chelsea Lately days, that's
Speaker 1: how far it goes back. Oh good, great, that's not good.
Speaker 1: I just love you. I had to say it. I
Speaker 1: just need to say I love you, and I don't
Speaker 1: care who knows it. I had had my buddy the
Speaker 1: Elf moment and I can move along. Good. So Juicy
Speaker 1: Scoop tell us all about that podcast and is there
Speaker 1: any juice to be given? Um, well, Juicy Scoop, I've
Speaker 1: been doing for seven and a half years, and um,
Speaker 1: I've been really fortunate and that it's just some thing
Speaker 1: I really love to do. I started it because Chelsea
Speaker 1: Lately had ended, and I had like a year of
Speaker 1: a couple other TV shows that you know, we're happening
Speaker 1: not happening, A few episodes here there, and in two thousand.
Speaker 1: I guess it would have been two thousand fifteen. Is
Speaker 1: when I started. I was like, well, I guess it's
Speaker 1: time for a podcast. Like nothing else is happening. Only
Speaker 1: the losers have podcasts. Nobody made money off of it.
Speaker 1: I'd be a guest on podcast and I didn't even
Speaker 1: know how to listen back. Um. And I wasn't doing
Speaker 1: it for the money. I did it because I was
Speaker 1: doing stand up and and I was like, how am
Speaker 1: I going to keep headlining clubs if I'm not like
Speaker 1: on TV, you know, because I have to sell every
Speaker 1: ticket myself and um, And so I was. I was
Speaker 1: at a club and I saw a poster of Tom Sagora,
Speaker 1: which I hope you guys know who he is. He's
Speaker 1: huge but Bert Kreisher. Um. But at the time Tom Sagur,
Speaker 1: I go, oh, that guy is a really good podcast,
Speaker 1: like a popular podcast. And the owner of the clubs like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he comes here on a Tuesday night and sells out
Speaker 1: just from the people that listen to his podcast. And
Speaker 1: so then the next day I was like, I have
Speaker 1: to get a podcast. So then I started mine, and
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to make any money at it. Nobody
Speaker 1: did I just was doing it as like, you know,
Speaker 1: a way to keep be creative and hopefully it would
Speaker 1: help sell tickets. So yeah, so then like about it.
Speaker 1: Then after a year, I didn't I didn't even realize
Speaker 1: like it was becoming really popular because it wasn't reflecting
Speaker 1: in my social media, like the people that were just listening,
Speaker 1: we're listening, they weren't like, you know, going over to
Speaker 1: Instagram and being like I loved your episode. So I
Speaker 1: didn't even know. And then um, and then it just
Speaker 1: became really popular. So and I just just never stopped.
Speaker 1: I never I never took a break. I never did
Speaker 1: a season one and two. I never took If it
Speaker 1: was a Tuesday and the Thursday and that was Christmas
Speaker 1: and New Year's Eve, you got an episode and I
Speaker 1: just treated it like I did Chelsea Lately, but instead
Speaker 1: of sixty people working on it, it was basically like
Speaker 1: just me and a producer. And so the hard work
Speaker 1: is paid off. I'm like the top female in the
Speaker 1: comedy department who who doesn't have a partner, so doing it,
Speaker 1: doing it has been really great. And I just cover
Speaker 1: everything that I think is juicy, and so some of
Speaker 1: that is you know, obviously like whatever is in pop culture.
Speaker 1: But I do cover like a juicy crime mostly if
Speaker 1: I think it's like, um, mostly if it's like passion driven,
Speaker 1: like it has to be about couples or something, because
Speaker 1: it always like I like analyzing, you know, what do
Speaker 1: I think happened in this or why do I think
Speaker 1: it's juicy? It's not as like detective driven when I
Speaker 1: cover it as some of like a hardcore podcast crime,
Speaker 1: but I do that. And then of course I've always
Speaker 1: been a fan of the Bravo stuff in the Real Housewives,
Speaker 1: so I'll always touch on that. But I don't like
Speaker 1: recap every episode. I just kind of be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this was pretty juicy. What happened here? This is why
Speaker 1: I don't think this person is going to be asked back,
Speaker 1: Like I just kinda do that. And then I have
Speaker 1: comedians and I have different guests on as well, what
Speaker 1: do you think right now in the pop culture world?
Speaker 1: Define that's juicy? The The whole thing with j Lo
Speaker 1: and Ben is just like funny, you know, because it's
Speaker 1: like the other thing people don't realize is like they're
Speaker 1: fifty and they've been going to these events for years,
Speaker 1: and anyone that's married for that long and your husband
Speaker 1: is like fifty, whether he's Ben Affleck or just like
Speaker 1: a dude, and you're like, okay, I'm warning you now.
Speaker 1: Like there came a point, like in my marriage, so
Speaker 1: I've been married twenty two years where I would be like, listen,
Speaker 1: we have a wedding on Saturday night, so you cannot
Speaker 1: like go golfing all day Friday and boozet toll ten
Speaker 1: because I need you to be a delight for Saturday.
Speaker 1: So I would like put in calendar like Peter doesn't
Speaker 1: drink Friday. So like I think that like eventually your
Speaker 1: husband's all become toddlers where you're like, um, okay, we've
Speaker 1: been out all morning shopping at home, deepo, we have
Speaker 1: that party tonight. Do I need to get you home
Speaker 1: for a nap? Get you like, let's let's get him down.
Speaker 1: Do you need to water some food? What can I
Speaker 1: help you with? Do you need a bathroom or yeah? Exactly,
Speaker 1: just like get so then you have so I think
Speaker 1: like with some of that, like yeah, he doesn't love it.
Speaker 1: He was just like he is kind of like a
Speaker 1: craeky person. But I think that they're they're fine. So
Speaker 1: that was like fun to kind of analyze what that
Speaker 1: was really about. He did swallow a couple of yawns, though,
Speaker 1: did you see that? Like I watched him internalize a
Speaker 1: yawn and really his eyes watered and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is hard for Ben. He's really having a really
Speaker 1: and I really don't like how they said and she
Speaker 1: snapped at him. I'm like, that was not snapping. They
Speaker 1: were just like you know what I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just like a to me. That made me think that
Speaker 1: they are like real as real as can be. She's like,
Speaker 1: get your ass together, right, like cameras are. That's the worse.
Speaker 1: Like when she saw her like that the camera was on.
Speaker 1: That part like killed me from her because again, people
Speaker 1: are always staring and looking and the moment that you
Speaker 1: think you have without cameras and then the fake kind
Speaker 1: of smiled coming back, It's like, oh God, we've all
Speaker 1: we've all been there in some setting or another. Listen.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the Grammys, Like I don't really watch
Speaker 1: that stuff anymore. I'll watch the clips now. I'm always there. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have bells on and stuff, but like when people
Speaker 1: at home don't realize is that like this is like
Speaker 1: an exhausting day. You know you guys, you know you
Speaker 1: would know that, but like getting cute early, being uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: standing on the red carpet, waiting for this, being on,
Speaker 1: having to smile, not eating, you're never eating. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was just like that sad shark cootery board at a wedding,
Speaker 1: all eyes are on you. You're not good enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't get together. I mean it's very much like
Speaker 1: a wedding gramer. And you know, like when you're not
Speaker 1: famous or whatever, you're like, there's times when I get
Speaker 1: invite to something and I'll say to my husband, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we I have that like Apple TV premiere. You are
Speaker 1: my choice, you know, but like if you're not feeling it,
Speaker 1: can you tell me now? So I can invite my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: who will go with bills on and yeah, so I
Speaker 1: can go with my girlfriend and no one's like Heather
Speaker 1: McDonald's getting divorced, you know, but she can't bring her
Speaker 1: sister or like her best friend. You were like, actually
Speaker 1: when she'd probably have so much more fun with instead, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like the single girlfriend that like might hook up
Speaker 1: with someone there, which makes it fun for the merry girl.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, she has to bring Ben. So that's for that.
Speaker 1: For that, I feel a little bit internally Ben in
Speaker 1: my head forever. Yeah, okay, well that's so good. And
Speaker 1: then so you've been married for how many years? Twenty
Speaker 1: years and he's he's not in the industry at all.
Speaker 1: Uh no, I mean he's been like managing me, and
Speaker 1: he was you know, he's like a finance guy. So
Speaker 1: he's always handled everything. And then and then in between
Speaker 1: leaving our first podcast company and um, you know, I
Speaker 1: always had agents and all that stuff, and then he
Speaker 1: would like, I'd like do a deal, and then he
Speaker 1: would actually read the contract and he'd be like, why
Speaker 1: didn't you do this and this and this? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: why why am I? Why am I paying this person
Speaker 1: that doesn't care about me, that doesn't read the contract,
Speaker 1: who's like, I don't know if you guys, you guys
Speaker 1: would know, the out of your audience knows. But like
Speaker 1: the usould be a time where like an agent would
Speaker 1: do a deal and then all of a sudden, if
Speaker 1: you had a big deal, they'd be like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you need to also hire an attorney for that will
Speaker 1: take ten percent And you're like, what the hell are
Speaker 1: you doing, like so it's kind of like so anyway,
Speaker 1: I still have all that, but like he does, you
Speaker 1: know he So then he started to get involved more
Speaker 1: with it. And then when the podcast group, we have
Speaker 1: our own studio and we have someone you know, so
Speaker 1: we then we did all ourselves and we have a
Speaker 1: network that you know, brings us ads or whatever, but
Speaker 1: we do all everything ourselves. So then just along with
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff, I was like, God, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it is hard to work with your spouse.
Speaker 1: And it's something I my sister and I would go
Speaker 1: to bed at night and like promise ourselves that we
Speaker 1: would never work with our husband because my parents were
Speaker 1: realtors and they worked together, and oh I thought it
Speaker 1: was awful. Though it was awful. Um that they stay
Speaker 1: married till they died, and they really liked each other
Speaker 1: once we were all gone and they stopped working. But
Speaker 1: like it was, it's hard. It's hard to work with
Speaker 1: your house. It's hard like your spouse sometimes too. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's just start from strata at that element. But then
Speaker 1: there's amazing benefits to it too, and that no one
Speaker 1: has your back, like you know, like your spouse. Some
Speaker 1: one's gonna care about it, you know, no one like
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about anything shady happening on whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's funny. But my sister, who's an attorney, she
Speaker 1: works with her husband too, so we both ended up
Speaker 1: working with our husbands. We didn't start out that way,
Speaker 1: but eventually it came to that. And so yeah, so no,
Speaker 1: he was never like an actor or anything like that though. Okay,
Speaker 1: And is that do you think that's like what's made
Speaker 1: your relationship since you're so in the spotlight and in
Speaker 1: doing things in entertainment, that that's helped, um, kind of
Speaker 1: keep the relationship as strong as it has. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think it does help to
Speaker 1: have someone that doesn't want your life, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I think that is. I think there's I think there's
Speaker 1: something so great. I have a lot of friends that
Speaker 1: are like, you know, like power comedian couples like you know,
Speaker 1: Toom Sagora and Christina Paczynski and and Natasha la Jarro
Speaker 1: and Mosha Kasha like and they both do the thing
Speaker 1: they do the podcast together, like they're both funny there.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it can really work out. I
Speaker 1: think with actors sometimes obviously it's a little more difficult
Speaker 1: because it's like one person has all these movies and
Speaker 1: another one doesn't, and they go off, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're making out with people. So it's like, I do
Speaker 1: think that part of it can be hard. But when
Speaker 1: I when I was when I met him, he just
Speaker 1: kind of was like when I was like doing Stamp
Speaker 1: and on meet guys and this is a long time ago,
Speaker 1: you know. When I was in my twenties, there weren't
Speaker 1: a lot of women that were doing it, so it
Speaker 1: was always like either they were either they the guys
Speaker 1: that I would tell would be like, oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: So like how long are you gonna give it? Like
Speaker 1: when are you gonna quit? Like when like how like
Speaker 1: you know, like as if I'm not if I'm not
Speaker 1: making much by thirty year, if I'm not in a sitcom,
Speaker 1: I'm just supposed to like quit that day. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just gonna do it as long
Speaker 1: as I am having fun doing it. And this one
Speaker 1: guy was like, yeah, but it says I'm dating you,
Speaker 1: like you go out on all these auditions and like
Speaker 1: have you even gotten any of them? And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I never get any of them. I never do. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but I just like going on them. Well, I just
Speaker 1: like getting cute, wasting four hours and preparing and not
Speaker 1: knowing where to park, and then never be successful at it.
Speaker 1: But like I'm still living the dream, like I'm still
Speaker 1: going and do my thing. So when I got Peter,
Speaker 1: he just kind of he wasn't in that business. He
Speaker 1: was into He was a medical sales rep and then
Speaker 1: got into like mortgage brokering and stuff, and so he
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, this is cool, like you know,
Speaker 1: this is great, and he thought I was funny and
Speaker 1: he didn't have like an ego about it, and I
Speaker 1: always talked about him in my act and that was
Speaker 1: fine as well, and so yeah, it was it was
Speaker 1: never it was never that. And then you know, he
Speaker 1: was thrilled that I was like successful in making money,
Speaker 1: Like there was never anything negative about that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good combo for you know, it's not perfect,
Speaker 1: but it's good. And I never wanted and I never
Speaker 1: want to be that person at Bragg's too much, because
Speaker 1: then those are the ones that always end up. We
Speaker 1: use this audio over top of here breaking that's horrible.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. We don't ever jink set in audio?
Speaker 1: And how many kids do you have, Heather, because they're
Speaker 1: teenagers now right, Yeah, we have three. Um My stepdaughter
Speaker 1: is twenty three, but we basically raised her because you know,
Speaker 1: she was very young when we got together. And then
Speaker 1: I have my son who's twenty year old. He's at
Speaker 1: a s u Arizona State. And then I'm another son
Speaker 1: who's a junior in high school. Boys, is there is
Speaker 1: there one thing in stand up that, especially when you
Speaker 1: were starting? Is my thing is I'm like, I feel terrible,
Speaker 1: but sometimes when I go to a comedy show, if
Speaker 1: something's not funny, I'm like, I'm not going to like
Speaker 1: force myself to laugh when if if you were to
Speaker 1: not get a laugh, like does that because to me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna laugh because I feel bad
Speaker 1: for the comedian now, so I'm just gonna laugh, even
Speaker 1: though I'm like, huh, other doesn't know because how there's funny?
Speaker 1: Well of course, but I'm starting out though, I mean
Speaker 1: like I would be like if I was sitting up
Speaker 1: there and mortified, So I'm like, tell me all, it's
Speaker 1: mortifying for the person doing the stand up, But I
Speaker 1: also love that there are girls and people like you
Speaker 1: that are actually it's like uncomfortable and cringe you sometimes
Speaker 1: to go to stand up, Like I had a friend
Speaker 1: that had to come just so much of my stand up,
Speaker 1: especially in the beginning, because you have to bring people,
Speaker 1: and it was always like kind of a weird lineup right,
Speaker 1: Like I would be I would always do pretty decent,
Speaker 1: and then there'd be it was always like they always
Speaker 1: come up to me and they'd be like, well, you
Speaker 1: and the black guy were good, but like everyone else sucked.
Speaker 1: Like it was always just like like and then I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I'm not going on to
Speaker 1: like the eighth person. How am I people going to
Speaker 1: live through this? Like hell? And then my later on
Speaker 1: once I became successful with my girlfriend, was like, oh,
Speaker 1: someone just asked me to a comedy show and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I can't take the anxiety of like
Speaker 1: when they're not funny unless they're like a professional, like
Speaker 1: unless you're gonna go see like me or Amy Schumer,
Speaker 1: Chris Rock or something like sometimes we're just going to
Speaker 1: like the random night of stand up. For some people,
Speaker 1: they have like a codependent like anxiety for the stand up,
Speaker 1: which sounds like you I'm like, but I like feel
Speaker 1: terrible for them that it's not They're not funny. So
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh and I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are funny. Is that like a diagnosed Can
Speaker 1: I diagnose myself? Not a lot of people make me laugh?
Speaker 1: May mean like when you're like scrolling and you see
Speaker 1: people's like stand up, you're like not feeling it. No,
Speaker 1: I hate to say it's a talent, so I admire it.
Speaker 1: I'm married to a musician, so I like, I respect
Speaker 1: the bravery, but I just feel bad because I can't fake.
Speaker 1: I just not I can't fake laughs or a lot
Speaker 1: of things, Heather, But I mean, I think stand up is,
Speaker 1: you know, an art form within the umbrella of comedy,
Speaker 1: and so like you might be someone that like absolutely
Speaker 1: like love you could watch twelve episodes of the Office,
Speaker 1: that's all that's comedy. That doesn't mean you don't like comedy.
Speaker 1: Love comedy, you don't like the you're just not overly
Speaker 1: attracted to like the art form of stand up of
Speaker 1: like storytelling and joke telling and like seeing just someone
Speaker 1: alone with a mike who's your favorite by the way, um,
Speaker 1: you know it's like my inspiration was Rosanne and writer
Speaker 1: Romano and people like that, because that's what I saw
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, even before they had their
Speaker 1: big sitcoms um where I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: because they talked about their life and could tell stories.
Speaker 1: So like those are probably if you saw old stand
Speaker 1: up of them, that's like the more similar of how
Speaker 1: my stand up is, Like I just tell you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not like booom boom jokes. I just tell stories
Speaker 1: and there's jokes within the stories. That's my favorite. Like
Speaker 1: that's what I love about Like Sebastian Maniscalco and Nap
Speaker 1: like those those two are like my favorite guy comedians
Speaker 1: because they're just like I feel like there's a there's
Speaker 1: always something like about the I love the story and
Speaker 1: then the enjoy Yeah. Yeah, so I think I think
Speaker 1: it's fine if you're not like a stand up fan.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't. I grew up like doing musical
Speaker 1: theater and stuff, but like I don't go to musical
Speaker 1: theater events, Like I don't seek out tickets. I don't
Speaker 1: because they're given to me the front room. But even
Speaker 1: even sometimes when somebody does invite me, I find and
Speaker 1: this is being totally honest, and I do feel like
Speaker 1: a a less cultured person and many it. But I
Speaker 1: find like you looking at the you know, the brochure
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you're like, when is the how intermission
Speaker 1: scenes before the intermission and the whole Thank god after
Speaker 1: intermission it's shorter and you're swallowing your yawns, like Ben Affleck,
Speaker 1: we've got cameras on you. Yeah. So it's like and
Speaker 1: then people are like, I can't believe you've never seen
Speaker 1: Hamilton's and I can't believe you know, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Every time I go to New York,
Speaker 1: I always was performed myself and I but I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe if I had to spend like a month
Speaker 1: and a half in New York, I think maybe I
Speaker 1: would go to shows and maybe I would really get
Speaker 1: back into it. But like it's just one of those
Speaker 1: things that I don't spend my free time looking at.
Speaker 1: I remember there was this one guy story that he
Speaker 1: was into, like he wanted to take me out on
Speaker 1: a date and he was a Broadway actors, Like, I
Speaker 1: can't do it. I just because I'm not a big
Speaker 1: again broad with like I'm I'm looking for the words
Speaker 1: the intermission, like it's just doesn't excite me. I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't love brought like shows that are like that
Speaker 1: or movies. I just don't. I just not my jam,
Speaker 1: not my thing. And so I was just like, I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to entertain in a date with
Speaker 1: you because I know that I had to be driving
Speaker 1: to these things and I wouldn't. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: swipe right, We're gonna keep moving if I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I went on this painful blind date once um painful,
Speaker 1: and the guy took me to stand up and I
Speaker 1: actually really enjoy stand up. I just like, I just
Speaker 1: have to I hate this, but I have to pre
Speaker 1: qualify almost because I just don't want to be like
Speaker 1: I don't look like a bit either, you know, like
Speaker 1: I don't have suit like oh good, you know, like
Speaker 1: I've never eye rollie. I'm just kind of like it
Speaker 1: just takes a lot to make me laugh, I guess.
Speaker 1: So he takes me to this like horrible blind date.
Speaker 1: He orders electric lemonades. I'm like, I'm drinking blue kool aid.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I shouldn't even probably be drinking maybe twenty
Speaker 1: and I'm he's getting hammered, and all he keeps doing
Speaker 1: is go he's front row. Howther I wanted to die?
Speaker 1: You just kept going, that's how hilarious. Now that's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Like if it's hilarious, you'd laugh, you jackass, like me
Speaker 1: out of here. So for a long time I had
Speaker 1: PTSD because I'm like everything smelled like an electric lemonade
Speaker 1: when I would go near a comedy club and I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. But I'm back. We we actually got
Speaker 1: to go see here and that was exceptional. And a
Speaker 1: comedy club experience has its own fun because it's like
Speaker 1: or not in your case, like like because there is
Speaker 1: food in there's drinks, because you might get someone wasted,
Speaker 1: you might get a heckler, you might and they might
Speaker 1: do a lot more like crowd work, and some people
Speaker 1: really love that, and people stubble it on a Saturday night,
Speaker 1: even if it's a big headline, they might not know
Speaker 1: that person. And then there's the level that unfortunately I'm at,
Speaker 1: and and a lot of other people that are you know,
Speaker 1: big people where you do a theater and you could
Speaker 1: have a drink, but people aren't coming around with chicken
Speaker 1: wings and and so I definitely think then and the
Speaker 1: people all came to see you, so they're that much
Speaker 1: boring aged And when I talk about I still will
Speaker 1: like give a qualifier of like so my husband Peter,
Speaker 1: like I'll still explain, but I really don't have to
Speaker 1: because like every single person knows my kid's names and
Speaker 1: this and that. But I still do for like the
Speaker 1: person that brought their friend who didn't know how I was,
Speaker 1: that exists. So there there's that. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: different experience, like you can experience the stand up differently
Speaker 1: depending on the venue. Do you ever try the jokes
Speaker 1: on your husband? Um? Well, you know with the podcast, Um,
Speaker 1: I do so much stuff on the podcast like every
Speaker 1: week and that is really not prepared at all. And
Speaker 1: then there'll be something where people will go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that story about that, what happened to you this weekend
Speaker 1: was so great? And then I'll just kind of go
Speaker 1: over to my notes section of my phone and be
Speaker 1: like I should like expand that or punch it up
Speaker 1: or like that could be a chunk later in my
Speaker 1: you know, stand up kind of the way I do
Speaker 1: it now. Yeah, I think it's funny about that dynamic
Speaker 1: is there's nothing worse than when you're in a fight
Speaker 1: with your husband and then they either say something funny
Speaker 1: or you say something funny and you don't want to
Speaker 1: laugh because then it's like you still haven't really nailed
Speaker 1: your point in with the fight or the argument. So
Speaker 1: it's like and then to laugh, it's like all right,
Speaker 1: then we're good, you know. So it's like ide all
Speaker 1: over again, and that's exactly what's happening. But just I
Speaker 1: could just I don't know. For some reason, I just
Speaker 1: like picture being in y'all's place and then like if
Speaker 1: you guys were into a fight, and then because obviously
Speaker 1: you're hilarious, and then him not wanted to laugh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: well he one thing I always say, like we get
Speaker 1: over stuff really quick, that's great, and but I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm going to in the moment. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, if there were cameras here ever, we would
Speaker 1: definitely be on my side, like you're on an awful person.
Speaker 1: And then and then like with like you know, within
Speaker 1: ten minutes or something, then he comes back in the
Speaker 1: room and he's like I'm like, he's like a psychopath,
Speaker 1: like that comes back to the room and it will
Speaker 1: be like, hey, like with the dog or something and
Speaker 1: then just acts like nothing happened. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: guess it's just just like our weird own dysfunction. Like
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people's relationships work because they don't go
Speaker 1: to therapy. You know, none of us would know about that.
Speaker 1: We all go to the same permit. No, But I
Speaker 1: think if if you don't hold onto resentment, it's fine.
Speaker 1: If it's if you hold on the resentment, that's that's
Speaker 1: the issue. But if you're able to actually let it go,
Speaker 1: then that's great. Because this like backhanded thing where he
Speaker 1: comes in and it's real tender, and I can, like,
Speaker 1: I can feel something's come, like a closure is coming
Speaker 1: after a fight. And then he'll go, I'm sorry, we fought.
Speaker 1: Kind I'm like, well, that's not an apology, you like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's what what isn't say?
Speaker 1: I think that is to me. I'm like, let's see,
Speaker 1: he's acknowledging and he's sorry in front of everything because
Speaker 1: he didn't apologize, like I'm sorry we fought. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: there's just no ownership in that other than the collective
Speaker 1: is sorry, I'm sorry we fought too. It's always for
Speaker 1: a time, right, Yeah, Well it's I was like, you
Speaker 1: might have more hanging fruit that you would like to
Speaker 1: have him. Couples that go to the therapist is what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I agree a couple of therapy wasn't
Speaker 1: great for us. So I guess if both of you
Speaker 1: are totally down to like go, I think it's great.
Speaker 1: But I do think sometimes and this part, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone would feel like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I've ever said this, but like sometimes
Speaker 1: I think maybe not over like analyzing that, because like
Speaker 1: if you did, it was like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: know he's not respecting you and this is awful, and
Speaker 1: like you cut him to kick, you know, kick him
Speaker 1: to the curb and get out and everything. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like then, and then I remember when
Speaker 1: we didn't We really haven't gone much at all. I
Speaker 1: think there's only been two stints and it was like
Speaker 1: three times each. But I remember I was like, we
Speaker 1: just have to go, we have to go, and then
Speaker 1: my friend was like, well, just get ready because like
Speaker 1: it turned out to be your fault. I remember when
Speaker 1: the first stutch happened in therapy and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I felt a little too against one, and I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no no no, this was supposed to go.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I saw it going differently. You know, I
Speaker 1: have foundership pieces a real bee. Yeah, I I hear,
Speaker 1: I hear all all, all three of the ladies. I
Speaker 1: think there's a good, healthy mix if you can communicate good,
Speaker 1: get some good tools from therapy. But by dissecting it
Speaker 1: so much, it can be destructive too. And then like
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, yeah this is miserable. What
Speaker 1: am I doing? Okay, So twenty two years and you're
Speaker 1: still in love? Do you have any advice for all
Speaker 1: of us? I'm divorced. I'm also divorced. I'm on my
Speaker 1: second husband. I'm feeling decent about that. She married for
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Wait, you were going to get a divorce.
Speaker 1: I was. We were getting divorced. Told our children we
Speaker 1: were getting divorced for about three months and they got
Speaker 1: back together. But they meant it. They didn't just tell
Speaker 1: them we were getting divorced. Is like, where is the
Speaker 1: end button? The leave for this meeting? I always think
Speaker 1: it was so kind a great when people would you know,
Speaker 1: when you eat someone and they're like, so my parents
Speaker 1: got divorced and then like years later, like now they're
Speaker 1: like they got they got remarried. Like whenever you hear
Speaker 1: about that, like there's like they were gone, they were
Speaker 1: broken up, their divorced for ten years and then they
Speaker 1: got remarried. And then I'm like, you don't thing about
Speaker 1: that is as the kid, I hate to say this,
Speaker 1: but it was your fault, like you were the lass.
Speaker 1: I do. I do love you, We do get along
Speaker 1: with those awful little roommates we had all those years
Speaker 1: when my childhood trauma of my parents get divorce is
Speaker 1: not going to make me go back and lets the
Speaker 1: only way they get back together they remarried. Then you
Speaker 1: have to look within. We only took three or four months,
Speaker 1: so I'm safe, I think. Obviously I'm kidding, but no,
Speaker 1: that's that's great. I mean, I mean, my my advice
Speaker 1: is my advice is if you My advice is if you,
Speaker 1: if you do feel like it's not right, like get
Speaker 1: out quicker than later, especially if there are no kids,
Speaker 1: even if there's a house like just you know, because
Speaker 1: if you want to have that, you want to have
Speaker 1: that opportunity for another big love or marriage in your
Speaker 1: life and the longer you wait, I mean, I do
Speaker 1: feel like there's a window of of breaking of getting
Speaker 1: divorced and still having a really significant second marriage in
Speaker 1: your life and having like a significant step parent to
Speaker 1: your child whatever. And so I mean it's it's important
Speaker 1: to try really hard, but like at the same time,
Speaker 1: like rip off the band aid because you got to
Speaker 1: waste another ten years. And it's and I also don't
Speaker 1: think there's much to choose from. And this is awful too,
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't think there's much to
Speaker 1: choose from after fifty because everybody is divorced and fucked up.
Speaker 1: So it's like and a lot of those a lot
Speaker 1: of those fifty year old guys, these like you know,
Speaker 1: can get like a thirty year old if they have
Speaker 1: a couple of bucks or if they're not even looking
Speaker 1: for a young girl. People are like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he owns a home. So now this fifty year old
Speaker 1: guy that like barely got laid in college and was
Speaker 1: married to his wife for thirty years is now just
Speaker 1: like the siege with girls on the apps that want
Speaker 1: to come over and suck his dick because he's got
Speaker 1: you know, a garage attached, like and you're like what
Speaker 1: and so you need to you need to if you're young,
Speaker 1: you need to try to hook someone good. And if
Speaker 1: you hook someone that you thought was good that's not good,
Speaker 1: then get out and find someone better because it's just
Speaker 1: not it out there. Well here here's what I'll say though,
Speaker 1: because Britain cheating a blowjob, hand drab lover so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, like if someone is if
Speaker 1: a guy is divorced over fifty either he was an
Speaker 1: awful husband you know that got and he got divorced,
Speaker 1: or he's or he's broken because his his wife was awful.
Speaker 1: Now were they both equally? Do get it? Got divorced?
Speaker 1: And how the greatest post divorce relationship possibly it's it's
Speaker 1: not as likely. So you're just kind of dealing with
Speaker 1: another dude that's like a little dub. So if you
Speaker 1: like the one that you're with enough, just know, like
Speaker 1: like if the demons aren't that bad and he's just
Speaker 1: like burping and not being romantic, I would say, don't
Speaker 1: divorce that person, like he's cheating in a drug addict
Speaker 1: but I got that, but like but like just being
Speaker 1: like god, you know, like you really don't see that interview,
Speaker 1: or you're not that great, like let it go, you know,
Speaker 1: it's another day. Yeah, you can say something, or you
Speaker 1: can try to change your reaction to see if he'll change.
Speaker 1: Like I definitely think changing your reaction will get a
Speaker 1: bigger change out of your partner. Then you're talking about
Speaker 1: wanting him to change, like if if he was doing
Speaker 1: it's something I mean, they're they're still the guys are
Speaker 1: still teenage boys. Okay, that's what they are. So sometimes
Speaker 1: there's that thing where he's just doing it to get
Speaker 1: a reaction, like as if you were his sister or
Speaker 1: something like just being annoying and as soon as you
Speaker 1: like and be like god, damn, what why are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know, Like, but if all of a sudden you're
Speaker 1: just like I don't care, burp your hat off, like
Speaker 1: I hope you broke out a party and everyone else
Speaker 1: thinks you're gross walking like like that walk away, chances
Speaker 1: are like the begainer might change because you're like, god,
Speaker 1: you weren't like this, you know, the first six months
Speaker 1: of us dating. Yeah, I don't remember my husband chewing
Speaker 1: the first six months, but now it's like here, So
Speaker 1: it's a little frustrating because you're out of the highlight reel.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, Like I'm in the highlight reel
Speaker 1: right right now with my boyfriend, like everything everything he touches, too, says,
Speaker 1: I'm just like it, like I'm saving airplane tickets and like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like I'm I'm in that face booking.
Speaker 1: But I like plotting now because we're having popcorn and
Speaker 1: watching Netflix and I'm like, does it. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: you a straw. I'm just gonna chew it like a
Speaker 1: baby bird, and we're gonna end. But there is something
Speaker 1: to be said though we're but there are some but
Speaker 1: there are some couples that really are really romantic off
Speaker 1: the start and that's their love language and it can
Speaker 1: really last like that. There. I mean, my sister and
Speaker 1: her husband are still very there twenty five years. They're
Speaker 1: still very very romantic, and he's still the same way
Speaker 1: he was in the beginning, and like, look at your
Speaker 1: sisters and she gorgeous and like that, and my husband
Speaker 1: is not like that. But then there's there's things that
Speaker 1: my husband does that she wishes her husband would do,
Speaker 1: and read contracts. He can like took a part of
Speaker 1: barbecue and fixed it like that, like he was doing that,
Speaker 1: and I go for one million dollars. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to figure that out like I was, like I would,
Speaker 1: I'd just be like forget it like I. You know,
Speaker 1: So there's things that everybody is different. And you you
Speaker 1: may not have a really romantic guy, you know, and
Speaker 1: you just might not. But if that's what you really
Speaker 1: need a relationship, then that's what you should seek out.
Speaker 1: But you might laugh your ass off with him, still
Speaker 1: have good sex, but you know, and you'll still get
Speaker 1: a card in a present, but it's just not like
Speaker 1: complete romantic and then other people you'll have that and
Speaker 1: it will taper off, but you still might have a
Speaker 1: good relationship. It's like you never know. Well, Heather, thank
Speaker 1: you coming for coming on and sharing all your insight.
Speaker 1: We're going to listen to the Juicy Scoop because it
Speaker 1: sounds juicy and you're hilarious. So thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on. Wine Down. We really appreciate you. Thanks,
Speaker 1: have a good one. Thanks bye bye. D Did you
Speaker 1: guys see him grab the spider by the way, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: st Set Sara text me and choice Jean, I don't
Speaker 1: really know if that's like a that's like a positive thing.
Speaker 1: She's like, he just grabbed it with his hands, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, i'd rather him. I thought. It's
Speaker 1: mainly to it's like, let it know, all that's amazing.
Speaker 1: What's hard for you? Baby talking to he know something
Speaker 1: about the chewing murderous thoughts. When people chew with you,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me. Ice chewers are hard for me
Speaker 1: to sorry, I remember, and I will not choice keeps around.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I don't know if it's him sometimes
Speaker 1: if it's just what are you with the kids, Because
Speaker 1: when Jolie chomps, I'm like baby mouth, so I'm on
Speaker 1: her a lot. I don't like chumping out as much
Speaker 1: as I say, I don't want Legend to ever get
Speaker 1: married and leave my house. I do need him to
Speaker 1: get married, and I don't want his wife to hate
Speaker 1: me because I didn't correct his chewing. So I'm breaking
Speaker 1: the cycle. There's difference in chewing and smacking. There is
Speaker 1: chewing is just chewing, and it can be very annoying.
Speaker 1: The smacking. I cannot take my father the way he
Speaker 1: eats an apple. Yeah, it's almost like I felt it
Speaker 1: down my spine. Right when you said it. It's really
Speaker 1: offensive to me, and I'm a pretty patient person. I
Speaker 1: feel like, so you would kill your usband over smacking
Speaker 1: h Yeah, It's like there was one time was like
Speaker 1: is that cereal? Like why is that so? And it
Speaker 1: just feels so aggressive potentionally does it when you guys
Speaker 1: are fighting? No, And now I now I've actually feel
Speaker 1: like a total be I feel like I bullied my
Speaker 1: own husband because I feel like now he picks snacks
Speaker 1: based on there so that's sad. Or time he's like
Speaker 1: he's like trying to dilute the pretzels. He's he's there
Speaker 1: for about like, oh, I'm sorry. He lets the pretzels
Speaker 1: softened in his mouth first saliva before you can actually choose.
Speaker 1: He really, I just don't see you as a person
Speaker 1: getting annoyed by a lot of I in this episode.
Speaker 1: Thanks for some reason, I don't really buy a lot
Speaker 1: of things. I mean, I clean toilets, I throw it's drink.
Speaker 1: He's at their house, that you because you're just with
Speaker 1: them so much and because you do so much. I
Speaker 1: also think by the end of the night is like
Speaker 1: literally the only time I have Yeah, so then it's
Speaker 1: like trying everything gets cozy, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I just hear cement, cereal or a granola or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm just like I I'm not a good Christian. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's go get on a plane. How
Speaker 1: about that, I'm gonna snack that ice right in your beer.
Speaker 1: Next week, rive through Sonic with your slow roll, big
Speaker 1: juicy ice. That sounds so good. All next week, we
Speaker 1: got some big news coming for you next week. Nice,